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November 7, 2024 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, that will go right out to the Ka cous

(00:01):
Brow hotline and bring on our guy, Alex Gold.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Alex, how you do it? Rece evening.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
I'm good man, Good to be all with you guys again.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, man, it's good to hear your voice.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Got the the annual Broncos tripp to Arrowhead. It has
not been a productive win for the Denver Broncos in
recent years. Finally got to win over the Chiefs here
in Denver last year, but the streak at Arrowhead continues,
and going up against the buzz saw that.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Is the eighth and O Kansas City Chiefs. Despite the
fact that they've had attrition.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
And injury and everything else, the receiving Corps Pat Maholmes
not playing up to his.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Level, the Chiefs just keep rolling right along.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
That's been the thing, man, I mean you you said
it there that there's so many reasons why if you
just you know, looked at a box score of mahomes
stats and and some other players, you'd say, Okay, you
know this is out of a football team. How are
they getting this done? But that's really been the story
for the last calendar year, that game after game games
are a little bit closer than maybe they should be,

(00:59):
they make some mistake, and yet when they have to
have that particular play, whether it's Mahomes using his leg
to extend the play for a first down or a touchdown,
or that gold line stand that they had against the
Raiders a couple of weeks ago, or a Sunday night
football game against Atlanta on a fourth down, they seemingly
make the plays that you have to make in crunch time.
And I guess that's a testament to Andy Reid and

(01:20):
this team being in these big spots time and time
again and not being phased by the moment. But every
game we kind of joke here and that is it's
the same. It's like the same thing over and over
that they find a way to win. But they're all close,
and there's definitely moments where the fan base gets empty
and upset, and yet the end result is still one
that everybody ends up being happy with.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, it's it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Kansas City's still dominant on third down, dominant the fourth quarter.
And as I was watching the game against Tampa and
they go for the extra point, I just sat there
shaking my head like.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oh, no, what are you doing? What are you doing here,
You're gonna give them a fourth quart? What are you
doing here?

Speaker 1 (01:54):
And if you don't play to cut the throat, you
don't play to win against Kansas City, well you're gonna
wind up losing. And that that appear to be what
happened there in Tampa. The Chiefs have added a running back.
They've used him a little bit these year, samajp Ran,
a guy we know here pretty well in Denver.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
What has been his role in that offense thus far?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Honestly, I think less than people thought it would be,
and maybe that's because of Kareem Hunt, frankly, and the
addition of him has been far more than anybody could
have ever imagined. They brought in some a JP Ryan
before hid it because I'll tell you, I mean, he
was one of the best receiving running backs in football
a season ago, for you guys, and so people thought
that would be the role he would have here. That
Jack McKinnon, who was a Chiefs running back here for

(02:37):
a couple of years, who was really vital on third
downs and passing situations. But okay, there's the replacement, and
that's really not what it's been at all. He's played
very little hasn't put up any any numbers really for
Kansas City this year, and I think so much of
that is really just because Kareem Hunt burst onto the
scene even with the Checko injury, and this has been
more of a run oriented offense and than it has been.

(02:58):
There's a lot of reasons for that, and you know,
you mentioned Patrick Mahomes and the numbers haven't been there
this year. But also you know, Cream Let's play great.
You know, he's been the second best running back in
terms of success rate in a couple different metrics, and
they're running them into the ground at this point because
they believe will get to check go back later in
the year, maybe later this month, and that they can
kind of slow up these carries. So really the backfield

(03:20):
is going to be Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Pacheco. Even
Clyde Edwards Hilaire, who is still with this organization, who
started the season on the pup list. He's been you know,
activated from the puppulist, but he hasn't been on an
active roster the game day roster, I should say, the
last couple of weeks. So it's been more about Hunt
and p Ryan's got a few steps pass protection type

(03:41):
of stuff, but really hasn't been the factor people thought.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, I think guynas the owners find it.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Clyde Edwards hilarious that he has not been able to
get in there so far. So Alex Gold at Alice
Gold on Twitter, host Cody and Gold on the Fan
ninety sixty five. Alex, you know, how do teams view
this Denver Broncos team helmed by Bonnicks. You know, it's
been a roller coaster ride for the Broncos thus far

(04:05):
this season.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
What is the external view of this team?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
So we talked a ton about that today here locally
on our show in bo Nicks. I think, you know,
people were pleasantly surprised. I say pleasantly, and maybe they
were pleasantly in Kansas City, but I was certainly surprised
with the stat that stood out that Lamar Jackson and
Boone Nicks almost have the same amount of explosive plays
over twenty yards. That was a stunner, you know, and
I think that's a testament to what Sean Payn's been

(04:30):
able to do. I'm sure you guys talk all the
time about how similar some of the things that they're
trying to do. They did with Drew Brees down in
New Orleans, obviously with Sean Payton. And at the same time,
the Chiefs have played you know, Joe Burra already this
year in Lamar Jackson, and they faced her cousins already
and Herbert and so the quality quarterback wise, they've certainly
seen better quarterbacks than bow Knicks. But I think people

(04:51):
have been looking at the Broncos in terms of the
record and they've definitely exceeded expectation. But looking further into it,
I think there's a lot of Chiefs fans that, if anything,
might be a little concerned that they're overlooking Denver ahead
of the Bills game next week. I don't think the
team is Maybe fans are a little bit that, you know,
the Broncos win wise other than Tampa, you know who,

(05:13):
if they beat you know, that's kind of what fans
have said here, you know, New Orleans and Carolina. Nobody's
really taken that all that seriously. So it's kind of
a mixed bag. Not a threat in terms of the division,
if that's what you mean, but also probably not a
pushover after what happened last year. We're Chiefs fans and
the Chiefs were embarrassed frankly about the game you reference,
which was there in Denver where we're out of nowhere

(05:33):
really for Chief fans, the Broncos found a way to.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Get a win ty with Alex Gold at Alex Gold
on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, that was one of the things.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I mean for Broncos fans, getting that sort of monkey
off their back last year with the streak to Kansas
City and of course the street to the Raiders that
they had for quite some time, both just straight lost
streets for quite some time. Has been refreshing. The team
identity this year seems to be on defense. This It
has been quite a good defensive unity this year, despite
you know, Baltimore the better of them this past week

(06:02):
with you know, PJ Lock the safety out. But I
think I think that's the idea to hang out on it,
and I think a lot of Broncos fans look at
this as hey, you know, Kansas City has not been
a great offensive team this year.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Maybe this defense can.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Can set this offense up because the offense has been
highly sporadic. They do have the explosive plays, but there's
a lot of inconsistency with it.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're gonna see bon Nicks makes some great tho.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
You're gonna see him make some great runs and you
can see him make them like what was that type
plays well?

Speaker 3 (06:28):
And then you know one thing that we discussed today
that I think will be interesting matchup wise, and we
didn't realize looking deeper into numbers with Denver, at least
in some of the base you know, past sets, the
Broncos offensive line is number two in football and a
couple of different metrics and of the grades that are
out there, and so we're curious here to see what
this defensive front can do. Like, defensively, they've been very good.

(06:50):
See Spagnolo, the Chiefs defensive coordinator, will manufacture blitzes and
I have no doubt that'll work. But can they get
pressure when they don't blitz And I'm curious to see
how this funt does against the Bronx goes offensive live.
Based off of the metrics we look today, at least
this will be the best goal line the Chiefs have
faced this year. Yeah, they faced the Niners where treb Williams,
of course, the future Hall of Famer, was playing left tackle.

(07:11):
But I'm curious to see can they get to bow
Nicks enough and you know, I'm not as worried about
the explosive plays, even though that something Nix has done well.
I think Chiefs fans are feeling pretty good about trit
McDuffie's shutting that angle down. But short intermedia passing, the
Chiefs have been awful against tight ends, and so I'm
not going to be surprised one bit if you guys
there have some success get in the ball to the
tight ends again. And Chie's been one of the worst

(07:33):
teams against tight ends and it hasn't burned them yet,
but that will definitely be an area I'm assuming that
the Broncos are going to try to expose and if
the Chiefs can't get pressure, that might be there throughout
much of the contest.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, Broncos fans certainly familiar with looking bad against tight ends,
and go can go back to last year's game at
Arrowhead where Travis Kelsey absolutely roosted them. So how has
de Hop acclimated to that team.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
It's honestly been remarkable how quickly.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, you know, you get an in.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Season acquisition, even a veteran you're still under you know,
between locker room, between actually integrating in the system and
week one against the Raiders, his first game, he had
just two catches twenty eight steps or so, and that
was even a pretty quick uptick. And then last week
we all saw it against Tampa Bay. I mean, he
was sensatial, and yet the routes that he's running are

(08:18):
not complex routes yet, like he doesn't have the full
grasp of the playbook. And he had he had eight catches,
eighty six yards and two touchdowns. And that catch he
made in triple coverage is simply a catch. They have
not had a receiver cable of making probably since Tyreek
Hill when he was with this organization. Yes, Travis Kelsey's incredible,
but that's not it's not from a wide receiver. You're
not seeing those catches. So fans here fired up, the

(08:39):
organizations fired up that the relationship between Mahomes and Hopkins
looks like it's weeks ahead of schedule. It's not months
ahead a schedule. So you know, maybe expectations are going
to get a little out of whack. I don't suddenly
think he's going to get one hundred and thirty yards
this week or something against Denver, but man, that that connection,
fans here are pumped that they got a number one
receiver again with.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Ali goal at Alex Gold on Twitter. Some speculation, even
though he's the leading receiver, has been that Travis Kelcey
has lost a step. We all see how Father Time
remains undefeated and you know how pardon the pun in
this case, the swiftly that can that can occur.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
What can you tell us about Travis Kelcey.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Has he really lost a step or or is he
still the same dominant guy he always was.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Hey, I'm here for the swift puns. No no problem
with that whatsoever. Yeah, I mean early in the season,
that was a conversation even here. People didn't want to
have it, but it was to me a conversation that
needed to happen. And then what happened was Rashi Rice
got hurt. And if you go and look at the numbers,
I think it's the last five games now and it's
not a coincidence that the targets are up for Travis Kelcey.
I think what was happening early on in the season

(09:45):
a lot of the underneath routes we're going to Rashi
Rice and teams are still double teaming Travis kelce and
Frankly Rice was getting to those those spots quicker, and
he learned a lot from Travis Kelcey on how to
settle down in the zone at times and find the
open space well without Rice, Kelsey's back to being that guy.
I mean, the guy had sixteen targets. Yes, it's an
overtime game, but he had sixteen targets on Monday. I

(10:07):
think in the Raiders game he had twelve or thirteen targets.
He's back to himself. I think my concern Pe will
disagree with me in Kansas City is that I don't
think I want him getting sixteen targets man during the
regular season much. You know, I want to make sure
he's available in the postseason. We saw him look like
a Hall of Fame tight end again last year during
the postseason, not in the regular season when he was

(10:27):
a little banged up. So no, I mean, I don't
think he's lost as big as a step as people think,
but I am a little concerned that they're utilizing him
so much. Maybe this is where DeAndre Hopkins is going
to help him out a little bit too. Juju Smith
Schuster probably not going to be available this Sunday against Denver,
but he'll be back very soon from a hamstring injury.
So I actually think Travis talent wise, it's all still there, guys,

(10:49):
But I do worry about the production in terms of overuse.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, it makes it makes sense toal with Alex Gold.
How many more years is Andy Reid going to do this?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Fancier are sick of that conversation because Mike Florio has
driven it, and Mike Florio Pro Football Talk not a
popular guy in Kansas City because for the last three years,
right around the Super Bowl, Uh, that column has been
written and speculating and he's just been wrong, man, Like,
he's just been wrong. And he just signed an extension again.

(11:22):
And obviously, yes, at some point he's gonna hang it
up as long as he is healthy, as long as
he can physically do the job. He's not stepping away,
guys like he's not. And why would you if you're Andy,
you got he got a guy you've waited your whole
career for. And Patrick Mahlmes is your quarterback and so
he is younger still than Belichick and Pete Carroll. When
everybody nobody's talking about those guys retiring, it look each

(11:44):
one of the one at one kind of retired. One
maybe got forced out more than the other. We'll see
if Belichick gets back to coaching. So I think for
some people they just look at Andy Reid and they say, hey,
maybe you know, not as healthy as these other guys.
But as long as he is healthy and by all
accounts from a truly you know, be able to coach standpoint,
he is not anytime soon. I mean, I think if

(12:04):
you gave me the over under and said four, I
take the over, still.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm with you there.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
That was one of the things I always find that
And you're right about Florio driving that.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
There were the air quotes, rumors and all that kind
of stuff, and I.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Openly mock Dad laughed at that, I think the last
cycle or whatever.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
But just curious as to what.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
The vibe is as far as Andy and where he's
at with it, you know, going forward, one of the
best coaches of games ever seen and certainly a treat
that you guys have been able to have him. All right, Alex,
as we look forward to this game on Sunday, what
can the Broncos fans expect and what's your prediction?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, look, I do think this will be a close game.
I mean, she's playing close games all the time. I
would be stunned if this ends up not being competitive
in the second half and it's just a boat race
or something like that. It's just not how the Chiefs
play because of the defense. They sometimes do play a
little more conservative in the second half offensively, and that
was what was unique about Monday night. They had to

(12:56):
be a little more aggressive based off of the Bucks
having some chats. So I think a close game a
little bit lower scoring the totals forty one and a half.
I believe the score I gave on our social media
today it was something like twenty three seventeen Kansas City.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, looking forward to the Broncos score in seventeen points.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
That'll be a treat for us. Alex.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
We certainly appreciate having you on the inside.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Look forward to talking to you again here in a
couple of weeks. Hey, thanks guys, absolutely Alex Gold.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
That Alex Gold on Twitter host to Cody and Gold
Always love talking to him.
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