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November 12, 2024 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Hall of Famer Steve Adwater, Steve, it was a
gut punch man on Sunday. It's still hard to believe
that we lost that game.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, the team played great.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
I thought they did. They played great.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Rabbittol that last play, and whoever could have guessed something
like that would happen, right, of all things, if all
things that could happen, that was not the thing that I.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Thought would happen. I'm with you on that. I withy
Broncos react. I was sitting there talking about, you know,
bo Nix looks like he's growing up in front of
our eyes.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
This football team played like they belonged, especially after getting
boat raced by Baltimore. But you know, it comes down
to it, and you got a young team that's got to.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Learn how to win.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
You've got to learn how to carry it all the
way through. Even if it's a chip shot field goal
right there. You got to find a way.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, but again, I'm thinking play everybody else. Everybody thought
it was in the.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Bag Kansas City fans that I was in the back.
I was looking at Twitter all the case fans, the
streak has ended, you.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Know, and all that kind of stuff, and you know,
the agity of defeat, from the.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Jaws of victory. That was. It was awful. You you
probably had a few moments like that in your career.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I got to think, and I was thinking about this
on the way in, like what would probably be the
biggest gut punch Steve Steve Atwater went through his career.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Would it be the Niners? Like just get bolt raised
man that that that hurt. That was my first time
religion rookie season.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, I wouldn't say, because I remember when I was
in college, we played Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl and
you know, as college is a whole another aside from
the main story. But we drove down, me and some
of my buddies. We got we rented a van, we
drove down there, drove drove down to Florida and you.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Know, practice all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, I separated my shoulder in the game, Oh Brooke
brooke my collar bone in the Oklahoma game. Yes, in
Oklahoma game. And then so guess what I got to
ride back with the loss and every bump I felt. Yeah,
So yeah, that was that was a pretty bad one.
But the Niners game that that that stuck with me.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
That stung. But I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Say, uh, because we weren't in that game.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, even at halftime, Bro, we were in.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
The locker room just shot like, what the heck is
going on?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Just happened? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, But I would say that that Jacksonville Jaguars game
when we lost in the playoffs, Yeah, you know, that
was one where we thought we were gonna win. I
think they thought we were going to win, but they won.
And that dumb founded look on your face, like, bro,
it's over. It shouldn't be over right now, but it's.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Over that yeah, and it's I mean was that it
was the division game against the Jacksonville Jaguars at year
I do believe. Yeah, now you guys were you guys
were what thirteen thirteen year ten and three man?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
We were rolling, boy, and you had them on York
twelve nothing in the first quarter that Jazz game.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I remember that.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Then they came back to score thirteen the second. So
he went down in the halftime, down a point. But
I just don't feel like you were in it at halftime,
and that was not like a Niners game.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
We were confident, we thought we were going to win
that game.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, and uh, you know we had we had a
few injuries, but still we still should have should have
put that all but hey, could have, should have wouldn.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Tron means twenty one carries a buck forty on the
ground running that thing.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah I Rememberntron means it was fun. Yeah, I saw him.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I went out to North Carolina, uh, last year to
do a bunch of tests and that, and he was
on the on the EPA with the coaching staff out there.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah he's trying to do a little bit of that
kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, he's Uh. I haven't seen
him in years, but yeah, he he was. He's always
a fun guy, you know. Huge, Yeah, a big boy man,
huge dude. Tron means business and he did. Oh yeah
he did. Uh he was in a couple of couple
of good backfields back then.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I just as a young team. I mean Denver Bronco's
young team, the third youngest team in the league. Yeah,
how do you how do you recenter from that?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
How do you?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
What do you? I you know, I mean I can
understand a vet. You've been around the league. You've experienced
some soul crushing losses, that's one thing, But how do
you take a young team at a young quarterback like
that and tell him the Goldfish.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, I mean, what else can you do? I mean
you can't sit around and soak about it. I mean,
you we got another game, we got the Falcons coming in.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, you know so.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
I mean every game is like that in the well,
they experienced it, even in college.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
In high school.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I mean, yeah, you might lose a game, you may
play poorly, but guess what you got to get back,
get back, get you, get your mindset right, get back.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
You're back in the saddle and fight right, let's get it.
That's I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
To me, that's easy to say, but I've seen losses
like that linger before. You're coming off a tough stretch
a games. You knew this stretch of games was gonna
be tough. You got boat raced in Baltimore, You come back,
you put it together. It looks like you gotta break
the streak in Kansas City Arrowhead streak. It's about a
decade of losses there. It looks like you're about to
break that streak and it comes down to just a play.
And the thing about that play I think that is

(04:46):
so devastating is it wasn't happenstance, It wasn't accidental. Kansas
City had noticed something on tape and they executed it.
They had waited for that moment and they executed it.
And to me, that's the devastating thing is we got
blindsided by something that we either didn't see was happening,
or we thought we were getting away with, or however

(05:07):
you want to look at that.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
But I think there was a little bit of luck
involved otherwise, Otherwise, otherwise.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Why didn't they block the extra points or the sixty
one yard or old missed anyway? I mean, you know,
so it's a little bit of luck involved with those plays. Man.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
You know, if you know the person who they view
as a weakling, if are they going to be weak
on that play?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Are they're going to do the same exact thing? And
they don't do it every every play.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
So but fortunately for them, you know, I guess they
did their homework. And unfortunately for us, you know, we
we we didn't execute well on that play, and hey,
guess what we back to the drawing board, Back to
the drawing board.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
I think there are positives a takeout of that, though,
because you just come off a pretty humiliating loss in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
One hundred a thousand percent. You know, there are some
wonderful positives. Bo Nixon sech he's growing up in front
of ours. That's the first game where I was like, Okay,
we might have something here. This isn't us beating up
on injured teams.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
First game. Well, I mean, you've seen the maturation throughout
the season, but this is the first game I was like, Okay,
it's not.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's not against teams is missing half their defense against
the carolinea freaking Panthers. This dude is doing it against
a good defense. It was everybody well, and there are
other things too positive, but I'm starting there.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I'm starting.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I don't think Bo did too much wrong. And they
came a couple overthrows there, especially that one on the
left hand side, you know, and you're like, he's still
overthrowing that. I still see one or two plays right.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Off the back foot, right we hit that Pat Troy
Frank good lord knows. They keep trying it.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
At some point they're gonna Yeah for having the connection
in college, you think it'd be easier for them to
have is what it is.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
He throws a couple off the back foot.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
But Bo's growing up and he's a serviceable starter in
this league, and we'll see how how high the ceiling goes.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
But as a rookie, though, man, he's doing a fantastic job.
I mean, he really is. And we've seen some there
are some.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Other rookies in the in the league playing really well too,
don't get me wrong, But I think that kind of
makes it look like bo is just average. But I
wouldn't say it's average. I'd say he's playing pretty well.
You know. I'm not gonna sit there and say he's
a top ten quarterback or anything like that. But he's
playing well enough to win with.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Oh, one hundred percent. But I think he has what
it takes to get there. Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
It's like, I'm excited to see the journey now and
now I've seen it against a team that I'm like, Okay,
I respect this team.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
They're not missing players. He put you know, he put
it together against.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Frankly a super Bowl caliber defense, you know, and so
that's that's good enough for me. The next thing that
I have though here is just like, why are we
not scoring points in the second half. That's the second
game in a row we didn't score a point. We
had two three and out drives and eight play drive
and that final drive where you know, and I don't
get me wrong, I love milk a the clock.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
We've talked about this before, that.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Final drive where they ran the ball at will and
then got down there and didn't come away with the
field goal to end the game.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Why are we not scoring points in the second half games? Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Man, that's uh, that's that's a good one. But I
can't say that. I wish every week was National Tight
ends they because hey, I want to I want to
see how tight is involved.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Many they prove that they can.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
They can catch the ball, they can run after the catch,
they can you know, they can make plays, they can
make some significant contributions.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
And I anticipate that happened. As the season goes on
that you know, they'll become more involved. But man, that
was that.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
That was a breath of fresh air seeing that a
few weeks ago. But and I'm hoping that they have
incorporate that a little bit more. Yeah, I bye, you too,
And we need the weapon that can consistently do that.
We saw troutman get another count. How about the trout
and catching the football? Give them the point lead blocker here.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
It looked like all stock going down the field for
a second there. Yeah, I mean there were things to
like about that game. And Nick Benito, what a what
a what a manimal. If anybody's upset about that game,
it's Nick Butino. That guy had three sat only what
I'm counting, no.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Man, But you know what, He's had SATs in other
games where he's had the quarterback. He's had a running
back behind a line of scrimmage and he somehow went.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
To the ground. If he could stay on his feet,
man and keep that grip.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Boy, Hey, he's the man. He's a heck of a rusher, Man,
heck of a rusher.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
He's doing great. It contained the whole nine yards.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Man. I'm I'm I'm really impressed and happy to see
him make this ride that he's making.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
I loved it when he was when he was drafted
and uh and watching the maturation there is he becomes
a complete player, not just a pass rush specialist. Yeah,
you know he's he's an outside linebacker now. But yeah,
anybody has some frustration.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Gotta be nig. But a guy who had three SATs
in that game but comes away with one on the
stat sheet, Yeah, you know if he got bonuses tied
into that, How mad are you? Oh? Man? There was
a lot of fans that were upset at the call
on Brandon Jones. Yeah, it's a bad call even looking
looking on it for it right, it's not even I mean,
it's a bad call. There's no doubt about the that
being a bad call. But the fans on social media

(10:02):
are trying to claim that this is some sort of
moment to change the entire game.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
The game was lost on this call, and I'm like, man,
two plays later, you had Kareem Hunt catch and run
for nineteen yards because nobody tackled because it kept breaking tackles.
And oh, by the way, the Chiefs had to get
two more first downs and a third down conversion on
that drive just to score. The Broncos had other opportunities
at penalty at penalty, gay canstate another chance, but the
game did not hinge on that penalty.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, the game hands on that black field goal.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, that's where I mean, and not putting up other
points when he had the opportunity. The miss field goal
at the other the first half of the sixty one yarder,
you had two three and out drives in the second
half and another drive that was eight plays and you punted.
So you had three drives where you punted, two of
them were three and outs, and then you had.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
That final vers and that was it. Yeah, and we're
not you know, I mean, you're the Denver Broncos right now.
We don't have the margins to not be getting points
out of drives, especially three and outs. How many three
and outs that we had the third quarter this year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
But the thing is, though, when it finally comes down
to it and you have that opportunity, that's when you
got to execute, whether whether it's a fill go, whether
it's a tough run that someone has to make, whether
it's a circus catch, when it's time to make the play,
everybody needs to know.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Look, man, look this is it right here.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, but it's a young team that hasn't that doesn't
I don't think it hasn't fully conceptualized for them yet
to pay how to win, how we got to win.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
We got you know, every play has to count, every inch,
every step, every step.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
And the great teams look at it like that and
they're I think they're getting there. The great teams have
that mentality that every play counts you know what I'm saying,
I can't have a playoff.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I can't have a play where playoff playoffs where I Now.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Obviously you're gonna have some plays where you don't do
your assignment as well as you should do. You a
drop pass here there, it'll be, you know, a mistackle.
But guess what, ninety percent of the time you're gonna
make those plays. And when you have twenty two guys,
eleven offense, eleven defense, even even the backups, with that mentality,

(12:03):
I'm making every play.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, no plays off or no playoffs, yes, you know,
and so that's no play like that. I mean, but
that's that's the thing. You got to have that mentality
every inch, every step, every you know, that was that
It wouldn't you know for me, even at the much
much lower levels of football, that was drilled into you know,
like this is it.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Every play could be the game changing play, every play,
every single play camp and you could be the decision
in that play. Are you gonna let down these other
guys by being the guy trying to trying to try
to mail it in on this play? You're gonna let
every one of these guys look them in the eyes,
tell me, you go let them down on this play,
you know, And so you've gotta you gotta kind.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Of grow up and have that. And the future for
this Broncos team I think is bright. I I do.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I just think that right now, they're still in the
learn how to win, lose, small win small kind of phases.
They as they grow, there are some pieces that are missing.
We got to get a you talk about tight ends,
We got to get a weapon there at the tight
end position, and it would.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Be nice to. It would be nice to.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
And I think they're starting to do this reconfigure the
roles in the running game. He saw Audrick Estimation that
start to get there. Did I talk about that last week?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Gat? Did you? Yeah? I did great not? He said, yes, yeah.
You said you wanted to see him get the early
down carries and Javonte get the later down carry and
it's worked out that way, right man. We're starting to
see it.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Vant's going into that kind of that somaj p Ryan
roll a little bit and I'd like to see him
get more carries than p Rye got last year, but
kind of moving into that role where he's better. He's
a better ball catcher than Estimate. And stimate is more
of a battering ram. You can use him on the
first down because we were when we were on on
first down, we run between the tackles. We don't go
outside on first down.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, that's yeah, he's showing he's showing that strength, speed, everything.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know, some's ball security then, yeah, that's been his
bugg adoo.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
That's been the one thing that's everything everything. That's the
one thing that everyone's saying, Well, washing the game, where you.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Get the game or did the origin of blue Brunch
thing downtown?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, watching the TV, that's the only thing that the
commentators kept saying that he's the only thing has been
ball secured. Like, man, come on, now, that's enough, we
get it.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yes, yes, that was you know, it was good to
see him start to get some confidence in that. But
they got to find something outside of Sutton that's consistent,
that's reliable. Uh and even Sutton at times has had
some some lapses. He dropped that ball and Nick it
would have been a first down and extended to drive.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
So there are there are moments with that kind of stuff.
One of the other things that we saw I saw
this this rumor floating around with this video which was
absolute nonsense on social media where Papa Holmes and I
guess it was on the broadcast Papa Holmes and they
claimed he's asking the ref to let him know when
a defender is near him, which is mallarchy. Is that
what was happening?

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Patrick Mahmes was asking the ref to tell him Whenjawan
Taylor's lined up off sides, like you know he's planned
it too far back. He said, can you justually let
me know so I know when he's when he's getting
too far back, so that I can get him right,
And which is a common curtain.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
You're allowed to do that.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
You're allowed to ask the ref that you're allowed to
the other receivers they do. They'll do it with the
tight end if they're covered or uncovered. It's a check
with me, and they'll do it. So that whole rumor,
and we just got a text about as matter fact,
that whole rumor, that whole thing is absolute malarkey.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I'm talking. I'm so so sick of seeing stuff like that.
We did not lose the game because of the referees.
He help us out, help us out. No, we didn't
lose the game because of the referees, we didn't and
that's the loser stars loser talk anyway, Guys, we don't
want to be those people.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
We don't want to be the people that are whining
about the refs all the time. Yeah, some of them
calls you like, man, what the heck is going on
the way to Jones Wan it was. It was plainely
a bad call.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I agree, but I'm not gonna whine about it, Like
if it's any if I was playing in that game, Okay,
we know that, we know this was you know this
was the North South. But I'll come back the next
come back the next play. All Right, you know what,
let's separate them from the ball. Ref can't ref can't
return that ye? Yeah, I mean you, but you get
the idea. Make it so they can't, right, I supposed

(15:48):
to like conduct? Yeah, what do I do with that?
On the South one? Flagging? Flagging it down?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I'm just saying, like, leave no doubt, don't leave them
room for the refs to be able to make that
kind of stuff. If you execute on a few more
plays in that game, and I promise you there's no
player and no coach sitting out there saying they lost
the game on on that penalty play, right nobody.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, you put the tape on. You're saying, this is
the thing we can improve.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I would imagine ninety plus percent of the plays, there's
some type of.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Every play. Yes, if you want to find one, you
can call one on any play. I can get a
holding on about ninety five percent offensive or defensive, right,
all right, about ninety perlays. There's so we got we
gotta I mean, does the NFL have an officiating problem? Yes?
Does was that call of that call? Absolutely? Did that

(16:41):
call determine the outcome of the game?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
No, No, we played We played the game perfectly right
down to the te right down there to one second
and then it was played perfectly and then.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Then you had an imperfection show up. And that's what happened,
and that unfortunately, that's the result of those contents. And
I heard there have been a lot of bad thing
said about who was that? Who was the foreside? Yeah,
this is a football game. Yeah it is. Out there's
and it's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
There's a ton of plumbs put out a thread on
Twitter today about that because he used to sit in
that spot and he's like, man, it's so hard to
play that because you know what they're doing. They're coming
exactly that. You have to kind of do it like
an iron cross and fall backwards kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
You don't know, there's no balance because your legs are intertwining.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
With you know, your your your your guard tackle, you know, yes,
and so it's a much much more difficult play than
people think it is him falling back like that. It's
not a result of functional strength. And you know I
know that because we can go look at the tape
of Alex Forsyth filling in for Luke Wattenberg and it
wasn't like he was getting put pushed on his backside
every play. If you had the pass, Russ would have
been a bonex his lap every play. So we know

(17:44):
that Alex Forsyth is doesn't have a functional strength issue.
It's just a it's just a byproduct of that position.
He's never played on special teams before.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
And you know you're off.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
You're trying your best to do something when you know
a battering rama's bull rush is coming.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
You know, I would hate to be position boy because
you know you're going back, you're gonna hit the ground.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
I could never I don't have that I don't have
mental fortitude. I might my back and sees up before
every rep on that. I'm just saying, we need your.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Hammy.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
It's a sore. I gotta I gotta bum dors. What
the heck is that not even a real thing? The
hacker man when he's like my upper dorsis? What if
your teammates are counting and you gotta be there, brow,
I don't need to counting on me to do that. Yeah,
you take one look at me. I ain't the guy
telling you, well, I can, I can hold the kick.

(18:34):
I'll get I'll get the snap I'll get the snap
down for you. I got you. I'll get the snap down.
I got you. I gotta clean his day. I get
to snap down for you. I wonder if you to
drop that. But then it be on me. You said, Man,
that's my bad. No, I wouldn't say that. I'd take
a lot harder than that. I don't like that. I
hate it making mistakes. Man. I took it rough. When
I make mistakes, I take it bad. Now I get
aggressive to so you.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Get mad before the fans start talking crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, one hundred percent and anything in life. I think
people don't I think a lot of people don't know
this about Like, I like, when I mess up, dude,
I take it harder than anybody. Like, I hate making
mistakes because I can control that, right, Like I hate it.
Sometimes you can, but sometimes you know, well, but you
get the idea.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying, like, if it's something like that,
it's it's something I can control it.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I made the mess with. Oh, nobody is ever going
to be harder on me yet.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
A competitive and a perfectionist, and it's a bad That's
a lot of life though, That's part of growth, something
to learn from.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I gotta learn how to not do that again. But man,
I'm like I used to hate get back to the
hudlfe for making a mistake. Whoa boy? Yeah? Oh yeah,
doll my own number for the next play. I'm running angry, Hey,
that's what I used to do to throw a pick. Boy.
I'm like, I'm about to go head I turn around
and do something. I'm gonna take it out on. Yeah.
But I mean that's the thing, like when I when

(19:54):
I make a mistake, I want to make up for
it immediately. I don't.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I never I'm never pointing to somebody else. Hey, man,
you should have been you know, No, that's on me.
Okay in football, that's on me, and I'm gonna make
it so if you try to play what you do
that bad pass, right, So that's that's like, that's the
thing always just you know, I'm always take responsibility for
myself kind of pert. That's just that's just how I'm work.
We come back and we get into a lot of
the good things that we saw out of this. We

(20:17):
admire the bad. We need to get to the good.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
And oh, by the way, it's homecoming for Justin Simmons.
They got a factor in. We'll find out next. Broncos
Country Night four and three says being.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
At the game and pretty close, I'll say Mahomes is
constantly appealing to.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
The refs anytime a play doesn't go their way.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
We didn't lose because of the rest by any means,
but it's a bit annoying coming from a great player
doesn't need to do that.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well, Jordan used to do the same thing. Oh yeah,
good greats they're always doing that.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I mean, if you're trying right and and a lot
of great players they're gonna get they get the calls, yeah,
because they're looking out for them. They make the NFL,
you know, they help with the popularity of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
They're looking out for those guys, right. That's the same
thing in the NBA. You see Lebron whining for calls
all the time.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
I don't hate, just get better. Don't make it so
they can't make it, so they can't call it. Yeah,
you know what I mean, that's that's I know that's
easier said than done. But at the end of day,
I mean all of them used to do a shock,
Kobe Jordan and all the greats. We were sitting there
working the rest for calls. You're trying to get any
advantage in everything you can. I respect Pat mahomes hustle
when it comes to that. I hope he doesn't get

(21:21):
the calls, but I respect his hustle. Ball get there,
ball gets to the point where he starts.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
You know, he starts. He's a rookie right now. He
knows he's not gonna get those. So don't do that.
What you do, go up to the rest house the kids, man, Hey, yeah,
they doing all right now? Yeah, hey man, I'll catch
you next time here to you know, he dap ups
lay the groundwork, right now you come back. Yeah, how
didn't do it? He graduated the other day. He's still
playing the tuba. You know. You start, yeah, you start
getting their ears like that before the game, you know,
and then didn't start working them during the game. There

(21:48):
we go. I'm just saying, I respect his hustle. Yeah,
I know the game. I don't hate the player or
the game I hate to play. You don't hate the
game either.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Five six, six nine zero is the text night. I
was trying to connect this earlier and I I toltal
forgot to mention it. But that Jacksonville game you were
talking about, that was the gut punch for you guys.
There was a coach it was at that game. The
coaches for the Denver Broncos now Pete Carmichael. Pee Carmichael
was the wide receivers coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars and
that lost to the Jags, and now he is the Broncos,

(22:18):
you know, offensive assistant and quarterbacks coach.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's that's how the league is. Man. It's like.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
You meet people, you go against people one year, and
then twenty years later, guess what you you're with that person.
You're in the same meeting room. You you get a
chance to know these people. That's the cool thing about
the NFL. Man, it's a pretty tight knit group. Guys
run across each other, and you know, you may know
somebody earlier, you have a relationship with him, and then

(22:46):
we won't see him until twenty years later and then
pick right back up where you left off.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, so that's you know, he h. Anyway, it's one
of those one of those small world kind of things.
I guess I just thought it was kind of kind
of fascinating. Yeah, but uh, if if we're looking.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
At or we're looking forward, I guess, uh, to the Falcons,
we knew we needed to pick up one of these
three games.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
You know, this three game slate was gonna be tough.
We knew we need to pick up one of them.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
We still had the Falcons in front of us be
able to pick that up and get back above five hundred,
said at five and five, it's.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Gonna be I mean, maybe an emotional thing with Justin
Simmons coming back, is that really a factor? I mean,
Brandon Jones has come in and that there hasn't been
a lot of talk about missing Justin Simmons here, is
that I mean, it might be a factor for who's
gonna be for justin obviously our fan base, or any
of the Broncos teammates that came up with a you know,

(23:39):
is there any Probably will be.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
It will be, but I mean I don't think it
will have an impact on the game. But I'm sure man,
he had he built some great relationships here, uh.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
In the community amongst his teammates.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Uh, everyone has a tremendous amount of respect for him.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
They love him, and uh, he did some great stuff.
He did.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
He did he was a great player, you know, so
I think the fans will appreciate him for that and
they'll they will acknowledge him. Uh, they show him love
until the game was time to say the game and
they are off.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah. Yeah, I the Falcons are tough. They're high flying
football team.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
They just come off a loss to the Saints that
they probably should have lost. You had a game which
Bijehan went over one hundred Tyler a Jeer had a
game Cousins through four with three hundred yards. You had
two receivers that were three or four yards away each
from from getting one hundred yards.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
And Drake Lennon, Darnell Mooney. They've got an offense.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Now.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
The Falcons can't get after the quarterback very much. They
need they need pass rush help something awful. The secondary
is pretty good. This looks like a game to me
where the Broncos could potentially take it. I mean, even
though you're up against a pretty high powered offense.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Feels to me like this is a team you can beat.
And if you can beat this team, the next four
games after this start to look a little bit easier.
You could. You could get to that last.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Three game stretch against the Bengals Chargers in Chiefs, and
that's a tough stretch there.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
You could get to that last at eight nine wins
possibly yeah, oh oh, it's just it's definitely possible.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Uh. But the thing is, you can't look past any team. Well,
you don't want to look past me. I'm just saying,
I got to make sure that we come out here
and handle business. Dit every eye and cross every team man,
because uh, you know, they're playing for they head played
for anything in quite a while.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
The Atlanta Falcons have it well, they lost last week
against the Saints. No, I'm just then, oh you why,
yeah right, they really haven't been It was the last
time they were was it twenty eight three? Was it?
What was it twenty eight three? The last time they
were playing for anything? Meet? And that's crazy, you know,
I mean it's been a while, it's been a minute.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, the Falcons, and you know, I mean they've got
a first year head coach and Rahie Morris. Now Morris
obviously previously coached the Tampa Buccaneers. He succeed John Ruten
down there, and he was he was too young for
the job when he was when he was head coach.
He's like thirty years old as the head coach. Yeah,
down there, he's he's one quite ready, I think for that.
And I got to see a little bit of that
up close, close and personal. But I like WHEREI Morris

(25:59):
a lot. I think he's a good coach. He's coached
both sides of the ball. Obviously, he was in Atlanta before.
In fact, he was a part of that twenty eight
three staff with Dan Quinn there. He coached both sides
the ball, both defense and offense there in Atlanta. You know,
I look at this Atlanta team and I look at
the offense.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
So I'm like, I don't know if we keep up
with them, But I look at their defense and I'm like,
we have some opportunities here. Yeah, well, I think our defense,
I think we can keep up with anybody. I mean
the Ravens. That was a tough That was a tough,
tough toe and.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Jon Robinson he's very effective, he's a very good running back.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
He doesn't have the size that Derrick Henry has, and I.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Think that I don't think that'll be And I'm not
saying that guys were intimidated, but it won't look as intimidating,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
There's some dudes on defense. When Derek Helly was running here,
like wait a minute, how big is that guy? Was
big for real in real life. Man, that's a big boy.
It's playing running back. What happened? Can we get war
done back here?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
No?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right? So yeah, Vjon more, you know more? But Vjon's
got some quicks to him to the strong. He slip,
you know, he'll slip your tackles if you aren't, you
aren't he can catch, you know. He's he's the top
tier running back they've got. They've got plenty of skill
position weapons. Strake London, who's been a little bit hurt
as a true number one. Darnell Mooney is faster than
you think he is.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Kyle Pitts at the tight end hasn't been the highest production,
but man, he's a heck of an athlete.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
You got you mentioned Bijon. They've got a one two
punch with him and Tyler Algier and Kirk Cousins are
not the most mobile guy in the world, but he's
been around the league a long time. He knows how
to disseminate the football. He's going to get that ball
to his playmakers quickly. So I I you know, this
is one of those ones where the Broncos need to
get this one. This a tough team, especially after the

(27:50):
last one. Yeah, you can't. You know, you got back
to backs.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
You needed to pick up one of these threes. Stay
above five hundred. Right now, the Broncos are still sitting
in the seventh seed. They're still sitting in the seventh
seed for the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Okay, So you control your destiny to a degree, and
you've got some winnable games coming up. Take care of
business against a tough football team, and then you know
you got to buy week coming up here in a
couple of weeks, you get a chance to rest up,
get healthy for the backstretch.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, and as players, they can't really look past this
one game. You know, just like last week, the entire
focus is on the Chief. They weren't even thinking about
the fact.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
But we can do that. I got a microphone right now.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
But the guys, they have to be focused on this
one game, and this game has to be the most
important game of the season.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
It does, and you have to That's that's sort of
what I'm getting it to bring this thing full circle.
We had a gut punch of an ending in the city.
But you've got to find a way to bring that
that full circle. You got to take the anger, you
got to take the disappointment, you gotta take the frustration.
You got to march it out on the field against
the Falcons. You've got to put that in their court.
You have to take that out on them. They need
to remember forever tonight they played the never Broncos to

(28:56):
steal the line from the test Titans, and.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
That need to be wow and out of control, no, no, no, no,
to be a controlled anger, control and.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Smart football, you know, and just correcting the mistakes from
this past weekend.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
For you know, over the course of the season.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Just learn from those mistakes and make sure that you
don't make them anymore.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Continue to build. The other part of this is you
got the Kansas City Chiefs to end the season. You're
going to get your chance. You got the rematches already
booked here in Denver too, right, That's what I'm saying.
You get you know you have to you don't have
to leave the house. The rematch is already booked. Yeah, yeah,
right now. You can't think about that.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Well, I'm just saying, like you need the opportunity to
avenge that losses down the line.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Put a pin in that, That's what I'm saying. Don't
think about it. Put the pin in that. The rematch
is already scheduled. Handle business.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
You get the Falcons, uh coming in this week and
that figures to be a good game. And you come
home and after a rough two game road stretch of
Baltimore which you'll you'll lost by getting spanked, and then
you lost the Kansas City and game you should have won,
and you come home and handle business, get back out
in front of this thing, and uh, you'd be good
to go. That was the other thing I was talking
to somebody over at Ea, they're gonna talk to you guys,

(30:05):
like all you guys that they played back in the day.
They want to put you in the game like it's
the Legends of the game kind of thing. So you
might be you might be getting a phone call or
an email trying to try to get some name, image, license,
l likeness money.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
That would be nice, But I don't think it's gonna
have I think it is. We'll see, we'll see. I
think they uh, well, I guess they gotta meet your
pripe Foroin too. But you know, that's the thing that
is something I think they want to do. I was
talking with.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Somebody over there, and I think with the success of
the game that they had this year, bringing the college
football video game back, I think they want to do that.
Have like a legends like for you would be the
You've been the Arkansas Legends team, you know that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Dave Logan on the Colorado Legends team, you know that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
So yeah, well, even the funny thing about Dave is
funny because Dave used to return punts and he would
be like the biggest part returner ever in the game,
ye ever out there, So that would be a that'd
be a funny look, you know, having having that out there,
you know, as far as that kind of stuff. So
I'm hoping they do all this kind of stuff because
I definitely would love to play the college game and
have you know, Steve Atwater hit truck sticking people.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, man, I'm just saying you man, let me make
me play. You get the hitstick going, That's right. I
used to do with Keno Kennedy, but I never got
a chance to do with the Steve Batwater. So they
work on that being done. I'm facilitator. All right, all right,
five six six touch sign And what's what's your confidence
on this Falcons game that? What's your confidence that can

(31:19):
bounce back from this? This Chiefs lost? My conference level
was very high, but it's been that way all year
with the guys. Man.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I just I think I think we got a really
good group of young men. We got really good coaching.
They're teaching not only about football but about life. And
you know, the support is here, Broncos country is here.
You know, the ownership is great, everything is set up.
We just got to go out and win. And again,

(31:47):
I think I think we had the players to do it.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Man.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
We got We got some some really good players, got
some leaders, got some guys who are going to be
with this team for a long time, who are going
to make a huge difference here among the Broncos on
the football field and in the community. Man, I think
they got the right defense. I think the offense needs
to continue to grow and grow up, you know. And

(32:09):
once that happens, this team's scary. Like nobody's gonna want
to play the play the.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Way they played last week. We'll be fine, but it
has to be consistent. It has to be weekend week out.
This is our standard. That is a standard. And you
got it. You got it on paper, you got you
got it on the field. You see what you did.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
You see the mentality that you had playing against a
good football team and they executed.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well, let's execute the Falcons this weekend. I don't mean
that literally, no need to that, don't mean that literally,
but metaphorically, let's execute the Falcons this weekend. Execute against
the Falcons this weekend. Steve is predicting a one hundred
to nothing Denver Broncos wins. You guys can take that
to the bank, Broncos Country. Tonight. We get Tim Jenkins
coming up next twenty fourteen. Okay, not quite one hundred

(32:54):
to nothing. I almost did that, all right, We got
Tim Jakins coming up next.
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