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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Grandsmiths, Zach Seger's back there producing conjuring up statistics, doing
whatever it is they do back there. I never know.
It works so hard to look busy, and I have
no clue what's going on back there at.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All, mostly just talking trash about it.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It seems that seems to be the common denominator. He
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which is always Riculus. By the way, just in case
anybody ever didn't get that bit. Five six six nine
zeros A text line. I think the thing I think
the main thing with this Kansas City game is that
bugs me so much is the fans trying to put
this loss on the referees and all that kind of stuff, like,
we lost. It's a gut punch, it's a soul crushing loss.
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But there are positives to take away from it. Did
ever Broncos belong? That ever, Broncos competed with super Bowl
caliber football team and undefeated football team, and they came
within one play of having it. You know, after the
Baltimore game, I was looking, I was like, does this team,
this team doesn't belong yet. But you can look at
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the Kansas City games, Okay, they do. They do belong.
Baltimore was a bad matchup, it was on the road.
Maybe you didn't have the confidence, there are several things
that happened in that game. But you have the ability
to be able to stand toe to toe with a
Super Bowl champion, arguably the best quarterback in the league,
and even if the refs whatever, you still went toe
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to toe with them. You belong And I think that
there are things to take away from that. I think
that there is that that's the takeaway is that, hey,
we belong here. The Denver Broncos right now are in
the playoffs. At the season ended today, they be in
the playoffs. Playoffs, they would be the you belong. So
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there's this Roe is me down on us? Boohoo the
referee stuff. Let's flush that. Let's start acting like the
winners that we are now. Losers cry about the the referees.
Winners go home with the prom queen. To paraphrase Sean
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Connery in the Rock. They can't say the full quote
on the air. Grant's laughing like at least got one
chuckle out there. Losers cry about their best. Winners go
home with the prom queen.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Let's stop.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
That's the thing that bugs me about that is so
much like the Twitter discussion on that stuff, even if
you actually believe that, which I don't. The biggest win
probability ad play was not having the penalty in the
sack come off. The biggest win probability ad for Kansas
City was the nineteen yard catch and run by Kareem
hunt Or. There were broken tackles all over the place
after that penalty reset and gave them first downs. They
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still had to convert two more first downs and a
third down to get a touchdown, there are plenty of
opportunities to stop them. So even if you're on the myth,
does that play cost the Broncos the game?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Good?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Acting like it, act like winners? What's what's the old thing?
You know? Dress good, look good, feel good.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And the words of coach Prime, look good, feel good,
play good. There you go, then they pay good. Well, okay,
there you go.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I'm just saying, act like you belong and then you
do and leaving that philosophy has worked many times in life.
Act like I have along places I clearly don't belong.
On Twitter would say right here in front of his microphone,
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if you can do the job better, come do it.
Come take it from me. Give me the same challenge
I give it everybody for the last that game. You
can do this job better, come take it from me.
I'd love to hear it. Five six six zeros a
text line if you guys got a comment on that.
The KWAIE Sports Show today had a great interview with
Rod Smith. I want to play a little bit of
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that for you.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Now, all right, Ron, I want to ask you about
bow Nicks. You said something a little bit earlier about
Bo that you thought that he played well enough for
the Broncos to win that game. Where are you at
with him and his progress up to this point.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I think he's gotten better man as the season went on.
Remember we were talking about him drifting in the pocket
quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
A lot of his.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Throws were behind. You saw when they moved a pocket
a little bit, he stepped up and hit Carling. And
then last drive, remember that's the only drive we doubled
our yardst production on one drive. We had fifty some
yards on that drive, I believe, and we had twenty
five to the whole first the whole second half. So
going back to Nix's point, we can't score points and
we're not getting any yards.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We can't even get in fieldal rays.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Right, and before we finally did at the end of
the game, they played that perfect.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I just think that kid man, he has heart.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Man. I love the way he competes. The guys follow him,
and that's what you gotta have. You got to have
that trust. And I think the guys trust bold Knicks.
I trust both Knicks, and I love the way he's
a spark. He's just a spark and when it don't
go well, he's a spark and I just I know
great things are going to continue to happen for him.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
I'm with you, man, And they're really opening up some
of the deep passing game, which is I think is
a really big deal right early on. And you see
this with rookies, right, I mean, you're trying to work
with their strengths, You're trying to work with what's their comfortability,
Maybe him scrambling a little bit too much at times,
just because hey, we got to be able to do something.
We're trying to win games right now. But now, I
think we saw sort of a maturity step forward in
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this game and that final drive to milk the clock
down to one second. I mean when you get the ball,
and I know that this was like a calling card
of the Broncos teams you were on when you guys
were winning your championships. Hey, six minute drive or we
got that, you're not touching the ball again. And I
thought that was such a cool moment for this team.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
No, it's a cool moment for him as well, because
you're going against the defending champs. You're going against the
greatest quarterback in.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
The current era, which is Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Three super Bowls, but three MVPs, Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You're going against this dude.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Head to head, and here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
You can get that w if we all got to
be on the same page and hopefully, like you said,
he can galvanize an area where all of us are
looking at every moment we have in the game to
make sure you're not the one that they can go
back and say, hey, man, if you did better on this,
we'd be We probably would have won that game. You
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don't want to be that guy, and then we've all
had those moments where we don't play our best. But
to me, I love the effort of our team, the
heart fought effort. You're going against the undefeated, defending champs,
and that's a it's a tough feed, especially in that building. Man,
we didn't win a lot of games in that building.
We competed hard every time and for them, I wanted
them to have that moment.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Do you feel that this loss can be the catalyst
to helping this team and the organization move on past
this twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
We have to.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Man.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We were talking off air and we brought up the
Chargers and I said, what is the Chargers record?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You told me sixty three. I was shocked. See this
is AFC West football. If the steps we.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Have right now is almost we're getting to the ploy
where's almost impossible to win the AFC West unless the
wheels fall off of two teams completely and we ride
as hard as we can ride for.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
These next seven weeks.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
We got to win out just to try to get
into the playoffs. You got Cincinnati Bengals offense is probably
the most one of the most high powered offices in
the league.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Lamar Jackson didn't through twenty.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Four touchdown passing halfway through the season already. He threw
twenty four the whole last season and he was envy.
So these are all AFC teams. Pittsburgh has won three straight.
We got a ton of AFC stuff going on right now.
Every time we missed these moments, it's gonna be harder
for us to get to the postseason.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And I think we I mean, you got it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Every game from here on out, you got to treat
you like a playoff game because if you don't, you
ain't gonna be in a playoffs.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
So I know, on the heels of two losses, especially
two losses against the powerhouses of the AFC can be
difficult to answer to this, but do you think the
Broncos have the pieces in place, the coaching, the players
to do exactly that.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
You know what makes it hard because I feel we're
still experimenting. We're still like trying to figure out our identity.
We haven't leaned on one thing heavy, one way or
another any game every every games and of course you
don't run the same game plan every game because you
play against different teams, but you still have an identity
and right now we had it to me. We have
an identity crisis moment, and this late in the season,
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we need to find it. And the reason why I
lean heavy on the running game the weather. The weather
is about to change or the weather's already changing. We're
in November, and if you want to get to January,
you gotta play well in November and December. And we
get our work cutout for us when we.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Find a way to drop a game or two.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
We got to start fast in the first quarter, continue
what's happening in the second quarter, even though the second
quarters good, make adjustments because the third and fourth quarter
have been not good at all. They're like almost non existent.
When it's probably having what twenty something points in four
games in eight quarters when you look at it that way.
So if we're gonna get to the playoffs, if we're
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gonna give I want this roop to have that experience
man and getting into those playoffs and go and try
to knock somebody off. Him and his guys versus you
and your guys. Go back to backyard football, where it's fun,
run the things that we're good at, keep it basic.
We don't have to have to come home being creative
and go out and win some football games.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
That was the KA Sports Shows interview with Rod Smith
earlier today. I always love what Rod has to add,
and I think he's right in a lot of ways,
and that the Broncos could stand to just get back
to basics and be more efficient.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I like this point about the identity crisis, you know,
like it seems like we're trying to do things that
don't fit the mold of this team. Why aren't we
getting back to the basics. Why aren't we running the
ball more? Why aren't we making things? Why don't we
go back to what Bonnicks did at Oregon and look
at some of the easy throws he had that got
him that high completion percentage and install some of those
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things with Sean Payton and the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the thing to me that
I took away, one of the things that I took
away from this game that I love is the way
that we are driving at the end before setting up
the field goal. It was a drive with purpose. It
was a drive with intent. They were running the ball
with physicality. And for me, while we're growing bo Nicks,
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I'm wondering, if we don't rely on that more, if
we trust Audric Estimate to hang on to the ball,
why don't we rely on that more. A little bit
of Estimate, a little bit of Javonte, a little bit
of Jalil, and just keep that three head of JABBERWOCKI going.
Keep it basic, don't get more complicated than you have
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to at this point. I love the fact that the
Broncos are, you know, in the driver's seat for a
playoff spot. They got some tough games coming up. Of course,
they need to beat the Falcons to continue that, but
you know, you've got some tough games coming up here
late in the season. This is a really good learning
experience for a young team being in the hunt, learning
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how to win, learning how to manage expectations, learning how
to stay focused, learning how to deal with devastating losses
from both ends, because you got you had a devastating
loss to the Baltimore Ravens, but you weren't in that game.
You got boat raced.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, I think that was a good game for perspective
where you needed to go.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Right, and then you had a devastating loss to Kansas
City in an entirely different perspective of we hung with
Super Bowl champions and then gave it away at the end.
It's to me again, this is growth experience. This is
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invaluable growth experience. The dever Broncos are the third youngest
team in the NFL. You heard me say that over
and over. There's something to that. There's something to being
a veteran in the league and knowing certain things. There's
something to being young and growing through certain things. So
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this team has an incredible growth opportunity right now to
have experienced the wide range of emotion that you can,
the elation of victory and keeping yourself in the playoff hunt,
something that the Devil Raucos have not gotten since the
Super Bowl nearly a decade and then the letdown of
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getting vote raced by I don't want to. I mean,
a clearly superior team of Baltimore is probably just the
way to put it. You don't want to, you don't
want to put the Broncos. You don't want to say that.
But but in reality, I mean, let's let's let's be
real here, let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I mean, the Ravens may be superior to everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That they might be.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I'm interested to see this Pittsburgh matchup that they got
coming up. Lamar has not played well traditionally against the Steelers.
I'm interested to see that matchup, and Russ has been
on fire lately since coming back from the injury, so
it'd be interesting to see that matchup.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I know the NFL is all about wins and losses,
and that's how you're judged. But you mentioned the Broncos
being such a young team, and especially with bo at
the quarterback position and hopefully he has so many more
games against Patrick Mahomes and that rivalry. Is this a
game that you can really grow from as a team.
I mean, even though it's a loss, is it a
game that can really propel you into that next phase
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of who you want to be.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I mean, I think it can. I think you have
to make that if you go back and we had
Mike Clisson was it last week, I guess, and he
was in his book he talked about that how the
loss to Jacksonville really lit the fire for the Denver
broncos it paved the way for the rest of the
Elway era because they used that game as a rallying cry.
They'd expected to win that game and that gut punched
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that feeling that whole off season where you sat there
and stewed with it, and you used that as a
rallying cry. Every time you're in the weight room lifting
and somebody's cheating out a rep and you're like, no man, Jacksonville.
Somebody's rounding out a cut in practice. Not man, Jacksonville.
Somebody's ready to give up after a bad day, No man, Jacksonville. Granted,
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that's a playoff loss, you had an entire season to
steal over. At this, you've got to you know, this
is a much more microcosm situation because it's the middle
of the season, But you can still take that and
hold that to that to that standard for the week,
No man we're not we're not round out cuts, we're
not having bad practice days. We're putting the we're putting
the extra attention, rep film time, whatever it takes in.
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We don't want to repeat.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, And I thought a good point that Rod made
was that you can't carry this and you can take
it with you forward.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And this is a growth opportunity.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
And he was part of those teams in the lay
era and he knows what he's talking about. And I
think this is something that can really help them grow.
They've shown that they belong. Now they show that they
can compete. Now this is a standard every week going forward.
You need to perform up to this level. Even though
it was a loss. You were toe to toe with
a two time defending Super Bowl champions. Can you can
play that way? Now, let's play that way every week
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and against these lesser teams, they're gonna end up in victories.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, And that's what you need. I mean, it's at
the end of the day, if you can get to
the falcons and you get these lesser teams, but hold
the standard the same against good teams and bad teams.
That's where you gotta come with victories. NFL six packs next.
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Speaker 1 (16:45):
No. Six the top six NFL headlines.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
What well things are heating up for the New York Giants.
Brian Dave all getting questions about if they will bench
Daniel Jones during the bye week.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
A Ball said, we're.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Gonna get started on the process here of going back
and looking at everything you'd normally look at in a
bye week, schemes, situational stuff, and technique, all the things
you do in a normal bye week. Their GM Joe
Shane also asked about it. He said any benching would
be based on Jones' performance and not the injury guarantee
in his contract, something we saw last year last year
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here in Denver. The question for you, will Jones be
benched this week, and do you believe Joe Shane.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I believe in them in the sense that everything's being
looked at. As far as that process goes. I think
they want to see a couple of practices with Drew
Locke and Tommy DeVito. Uh at the you know, at
the Helm, I forgot about Tommy DeVito. I suspect it'll
be Drew Locke. I if I if I were a
betting man right now, we would bet the Daniel Jones
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it played his last down as a New York Giant. Wow.
And I think you have to. I mean, those two guys,
you can't continue to roll with Daniel Jones and save
your jobs, right. So I do tend to believe them.
In part of that, I do believe the injury guarantee
is just one other consideration in the pile. The reality
is the performance has not been where it needs to be,
and so at this point you try any of the
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other two guys and see what they've got.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I'm hoping for some Drew lock time with the New
York Giants, Drew Simber. Drew Simber, because I was thinking October.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That was in October, No Jones, November, and then Drew somber.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
We Go and shout out to Daniel Jones for getting
his money either way too.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Following a game three game losing streak where the Bears
have averaged a measly nine points per game, the Chicago
Bears announced today that they are firing their offensive coordinator
Shane Waldron, just nine games into his Bears tenure. Do
you think this will help the Bears offense improve or
if they had.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Just a lost cause this year?
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Well?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I don't. I mean, I don't know what you're going
to do to improve it at this point because the
guy at the hell you're removing, and it's not like
you can install a new offense and you're hoping that
having someone else will will, you know, maybe play to
his strengths a little bit. But at the end of
the day, I mean, what are you gonna do here?
You know, I don't know that it improves it per se.
I thought that it was the wrong hire to begin with.
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They had Cliff Kingsbury in the building and let him walk,
and now you can see what Cliff's dealing with Jaden
Daniels in Washington. You had the right guy for that
quarterback in the building and you'll let him go to
bring in you know, Shane Waldron and I get sort
of at the time the resume Shane had resurrected Geno Smith.
You thought maybe that, you know, that offense was going
to be able to do that, but you know it
was a bad hire. It's been a bad higher. It's
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not just that though. I mean, the Bears offensive line
needs help. They they've got to find ways to buy
Caleb William's more time to let things slow down. It's
like when we saw at the beginning of the year
when Bow looked for anetick and rushed and all that
kind of stuff. Sometimes it's not just the offensive line.
Sometimes the quarterback is doing too much, you know, and
you've got to find ways to simplify things, make it
as easy on them as possible. With the Bears, it's
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a combination of things, you know, And so at the
end of the day, I think you've got to find ways.
You've got to find ways to simplify it and make
it easier on him, and once you do that, let
it slow down. Then he'll then pick up the pace.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
How are you feeling about Caleb Williams and his progression and.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Not any different than I did when he was drafted.
I think he's a good quarterback and he's gonna be
a good quarterback in the NFL. I think they just
need to give him time to let the speed of
the game catch up.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
How would you rank the rookie quarterback class that we
have seen so far? Obviously with McCarthy out in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Smaller sample size for Drake May, but I think you'd
probably go Jade and Bow Drake, and then you're looking
at what Caleb Williams and J. J. McCarthy, Spencer Rattler.
I'm trying to think of who else is what other
rookies have played.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I think that's it this yere right, Yeah, Spencer is
the last one. Yeah, obviously at the Metha.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Pennis Michael Pennix has a played, so you know, so
I think that's I mean, not any appreciable bounds. I
think you played like three downs. But anyway, I think
that's how you'd have to rank him three. Well, if
you watched.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Monday Night Football last night, you saw the Dolphins get
a win. You also saw to a tongue of Iloa
trying deliver a tackle after he threw an interception.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
This is what he had to say about it after
the game. I feel good, everything's good.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I went up.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I went up to that dude to intercepted.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Me and asked him, like, Bro, you couldn't just like
ran out of mound like cut back. It's like you
seen me and I seen you, like you wanted to
just run me over. He told me after the game.
There was like like there's no room.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
There, like there was nowhere else to go.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
So, you know, he he got to do what you
gotta do to to help.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
His team win games.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And you know, I wasn't.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
I wasn't planning on using my head to go get him.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Down there, but I guess it's like kind of like
side of your head.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
You nah, I didn't feel feel any of that. That
was pretty bad tackling for him though.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That was pretty terrible to.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
A joking about it after the game, But uh, man,
you just hold your breath every time he's involved in
any collision with his concussion history. Is there anything more
the Dolphins can do to protect to it or does
he just have to protect himself?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, I mean he's got to protect himself first and foremost.
The team's done what they can. You know, the team's
done everything they can. He's making the decision to be
out there, He's making the decision not to where any
other protecting the equipment, He's making decisions do all that.
He's the one that's got to protect himself at the
end of the day. I mean you, you know, the
league and the NFL is a brand, tries to make
the game as safe as possible for the players, but
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there's still an inherent element of risk, and at that
point it's on you to protect yourself as much as possible.
You definitely should not be leading with your head trying
to make a tackle. As a guy who's had multiple
traumatic brain injuries. You know, I don't know what else
to say at this point to us playing with fire,
and it sucks to watch that happen. That sucks to
watch a guy who is I mean, I don't want
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to say oblivious to the consequences, but doesn't care, I guess,
or doesn't care enough as to what those consequences could
be to continue to put himself in harm's way and
eventually you play with fire eventually get burned.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Yeah, And I mean, like you said, he's got to
protect himself and he knows the risks.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
He just doesn't seem to care about him.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
You heard him in his press conference following the last
injury that he loves football to the death of him
and he will continue to play this game. I think
we're all just as an NFL community, hoping that we
don't see the worst of the outcomes.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I mean, I think that at the end of
the day, you're hoping that you're hoping that even in
playing with fire, he gets away with it. But you're
kind of not really holding your breath that that's hope.
There's not a long term strategy for well.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Non NFL news, the latest college football playoff rankings have
been released.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
A couple of.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Notables outside of the top twelve. Army coming in at
number twenty four with their nine to zero record, See
you in the next four out ranked number seventeen this
week at seven and two game back of BYU and
the Big twelve standings controlling their own destiny. And Georgia
comes in at number twelve, but they are not currently
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in the College Football Playoff because Boise State jumps them
as a G five school, Poise State coming in at twelve.
Anything that surprised you with this week's college football rankings,
and are you excited about the twelve team playoff?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I can't wait for it.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, I mean I think it should have been eight.
I think they were too small to begin with and
they got too large. But there's twelve is really gonna
give some some teams that I think otherwise might not
have a shot at getting in. Like you've talked about Army.
You know, they be Notre Dame, and the road's paved
for them to get in. They're in if they be
pretty much. So I you know, that's one of those
things where excuse me, that's one of those things where
I think that could be fun. Colorado currently at seventeen,
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they've got the rod paid ahead of them. Kansas State
being ahead of them is kind of interesting. I mean,
it's fine Colorado controls its destiny would eventually pass them,
but that sort of a reminder that, hey, case State
beat Colorado, so that's why we have that there. Tennessee
being behind Indiana BYU is a little interesting. It's a
one walls Tennessee team and an undefeated Indiana BYU team,
But Indiana BYU schedules significantly softer than the Tennessee, so
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that that one kind of surprises me, I guess a
little bit. Otherwise, you know, Tulane being at twenty fives
a little much, but I think that's there to boost army,
you know in the AAC, so especially with two losses.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Yeah, and Indiana strength of schedule this year, one hundred
and third, and I am so pumped for these home
games in the first round, you know, the five through
twelve seeds that are you know, right now we have
Boise State playing at the Horseshoe at Ohio State. I
think that's just going to be such a cool scene
for college football.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, we got some good stuff coming up down the
stretch with college football. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna
be a fun race to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Five.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Roger Goodell said that the NFL is hoping to play
eight international games and twenty twenty five, three more than
any prior season, and it's going to be spanning three
continents and six different countries, three in the UK, one
in Spain, one in Germany, one in Mexico City, and
potentially one in Ireland, which I think they should get.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Back to Ireland.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Do you think this international growth is good for the NFL?
And do you think that it's a toll on the
players with the travel, and do you think it's affecting
the quality of the games overseas well.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Mexico City doesn't. It's in the it's in one of
the current time zones that's just going south out of
Mexico City, so that that when that is not that
does not affected by that. In terms of Spain, Germany
or the UK, obviously there's a big time zone difference,
there's a travel difference, all that kind of stuff. Yeah,
I mean, I do think that there's obviously a quality
of the game. Part of that was just the teams
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that were playing. I mean, the Giants and the Panthers
stink the quality What was the quality of that game
going to be here?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Just as bad, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I mean, so you know, I'm not too I'm not
too worried about that. I think the teams in the
league has started to get used to and made efficient
the ways to uh, the ways to do this and
get quality performances. I was in London for the the
Broncos Jags game, and you know, I thought that that
was I thought that game was was fine. I didn't
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think that there was a lower quality game in terms
of any of that kind of stuff. I think that
was just two mediocre teams at the time playing each other.
So I don't think it hurts anything. I don't. I
don't think. I think the quality of the game is
determined by the quality of the team's playing, you know.
And I think they've got the travel down to an
efficient point at this point. They want to expand one
to Ireland, which they haven't done. You know, they haven't
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done Ireland yet, so they want to put a game
in Ireland. I think it's good for growing the game globally,
which as we see with the Olympics, you know, it's
starting to include some of this kind of stuff. I
think that's good for the game, and that'll be it'll
be interesting. It'll be interesting to see if it takes
foothold the way that Basketball did when they tried to
make that, when they began to make that a global brand,
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and I would see that it really is.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Do you think that we could see a team in
the next I don't know, five to ten years be
you know, a home team, you know, like the Jaguars.
The rumors from a few years back that they were
just going to move to London do you think that's
a real possibility in the next five to ten years.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I don'ge. I've never thought that that was gonna happen.
I think that's a that I think that's a big
hype thing that if they ever do put a team
in London into the expansion team, and it's tough to
do because the taxes there are wildly different, so you
would have to find ways, like free agents would have
to take exhorbitantly higher contracts. A team that's playing there
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would be an inherent disadvantage monetarily because of the salary cap,
because of you know, again having to pay more people
more money in order to balance out the the tax
issues there. You'd have to find a way to work
around that. There's a lot of there's a lot of
issues that you wouldn't think are top line issues to
putting a team there, and that's before you get into
the logistics to try to everybody to play there. To me,
if you were going to do that, you need to
expand the league by four teams and put four of
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them equal division, a whole division in Europe, and then
somebody's gonna go play the whole division over there. You know,
they they would come over here, you know, you'd have
to do the scheduling that way. I don't believe that
there will be an NFL team in London in my lifetime. Wow.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Okay, with players you've talked to, how do they feel
about the International Games?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Do they like it?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Do they they get the they get the you know,
you get a kind of you know, the bye week.
Obviously you get to go over there and have some
fun and all that kind of stuff. I've never heard
anybody complain about it. I did hear people complain about
the prior preseason to the International Games. Everyone hated that
going over during the season. I mean, I've not heard
too many people complain about it. There may be a
player here or there, but they've not been vocal in
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the criticisms.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Six.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
This is a little bit of a fun story. And
by the way, shout out to Zach Seegers for putting
together the NFL six pack. I meant to intro as
Zach Seeger's NFL six pack, not.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Bob Seekers NFL six pack, the Silver Bullet.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
No, he didn't even know Bob Seger was.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
That's that's sort of a problem.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Anyway.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Number six is on December ninth, the NFL will be
airing the first ever Simpson's Fun Day Football, an alternative
alternate broadcast of them Monday night football game between the
Cincinnati Bengals Who Dah and Dallas Cowboys that will transform
the game into the world of the Simpsons. Do you
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enjoy these alternate NFL broadcasts and do you have.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Any interest in the Simpsons outcast?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I'm gonna does. I don't watch almost any of these
alternate I don't know that. I watched the Manning cast
a few times, but to be honest with you, it
feels like it takes away from the game. Like I
love the conversations, but I usually watch the conversations after
the game exactly as it takes away from my enjoyment
of the game. And if it's live sports, I'll watch
it live. I don't watch recorded live sports. I just
don't do it. No, I've never I didn't want. I mean,
(30:36):
I turned on for a second the Nickelodeon cast just
to sort of see what the CG was there. Yeah,
just to see that. I mean, I'll tune into this
for a couple of minutes just to sort of see
what it is, because you know it's in this domain
that we cover in a sports so I'll have to
I'll at least have to pay some attention as a fan.
Would it have been something I would have made appointment television? No,
And I don't even understand the tie in here, Like,
(30:57):
I don't understand why are we turning it to you know,
why not do South Park? I mean, you know at
that point, I like, I don't. I don't understand the
tie in here. I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I don't understand any aspect of.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Yeah, we had SpongeBob and Patrick last year.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I think I think cgi the players the Simpsons characters here,
Like I don't. I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Yeah, And I'm like you, I when I watch a game,
I want the traditional broadcast. I watch the manning cast
stuff later, or if the game's a blowout and they
have an interesting guest on, I'll I'll flip over to it.
But I want my sports as a traditional broadcast, two
men in the booth, someone on the sidelines. And but
like you said, with the international game, it's it's for growth,
and I think this is bringing a new audience into
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the game at least.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm uh I'll peek at it, you know,
just to see maybe it'll get me a chuckle or something.
But I just like to watch football for football. I
don't need gimmicks to watch football, you know. And maybe
that's what that is. Maybe it's a gimmick to try
to get to it, you know. Like I was thinking
this to give me to get the kids involved. But
I'm like that, do the kids watch the Simpsons? Yeah,
I think that's more of a like our generation. It's
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I mean, good Lord forever, you know, thirty plus years.
I don't know that that's I don't know. It's to
draw for the kids, the utes, I don't know. Hopefully
it's fun. We'll see Broncos Country tonight. Drills on here
on Kawin say you the game that if I want
news sports,
Grandsmiths, Zach Seger's back there producing conjuring up statistics, doing
whatever it is they do back there. I never know.
It works so hard to look busy, and I have
no clue what's going on back there at.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All, mostly just talking trash about it.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It seems that seems to be the common denominator. He
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which is always Riculus. By the way, just in case
anybody ever didn't get that bit. Five six six nine
zeros A text line. I think the thing I think
the main thing with this Kansas City game is that
bugs me so much is the fans trying to put
this loss on the referees and all that kind of stuff, like,
we lost. It's a gut punch, it's a soul crushing loss.
(01:15):
But there are positives to take away from it. Did
ever Broncos belong? That ever, Broncos competed with super Bowl
caliber football team and undefeated football team, and they came
within one play of having it. You know, after the
Baltimore game, I was looking, I was like, does this team,
this team doesn't belong yet. But you can look at
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the Kansas City games, Okay, they do. They do belong.
Baltimore was a bad matchup, it was on the road.
Maybe you didn't have the confidence, there are several things
that happened in that game. But you have the ability
to be able to stand toe to toe with a
Super Bowl champion, arguably the best quarterback in the league,
and even if the refs whatever, you still went toe
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to toe with them. You belong And I think that
there are things to take away from that. I think
that there is that that's the takeaway is that, hey,
we belong here. The Denver Broncos right now are in
the playoffs. At the season ended today, they be in
the playoffs. Playoffs, they would be the you belong. So
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there's this Roe is me down on us? Boohoo the
referee stuff. Let's flush that. Let's start acting like the
winners that we are now. Losers cry about the the referees.
Winners go home with the prom queen. To paraphrase Sean
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Connery in the Rock. They can't say the full quote
on the air. Grant's laughing like at least got one
chuckle out there. Losers cry about their best. Winners go
home with the prom queen.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Let's stop.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
That's the thing that bugs me about that is so
much like the Twitter discussion on that stuff, even if
you actually believe that, which I don't. The biggest win
probability ad play was not having the penalty in the
sack come off. The biggest win probability ad for Kansas
City was the nineteen yard catch and run by Kareem
hunt Or. There were broken tackles all over the place
after that penalty reset and gave them first downs. They
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still had to convert two more first downs and a
third down to get a touchdown, there are plenty of
opportunities to stop them. So even if you're on the myth,
does that play cost the Broncos the game?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Good?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Acting like it, act like winners? What's what's the old thing?
You know? Dress good, look good, feel good.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And the words of coach Prime, look good, feel good,
play good. There you go, then they pay good. Well, okay,
there you go.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I'm just saying, act like you belong and then you
do and leaving that philosophy has worked many times in life.
Act like I have along places I clearly don't belong.
On Twitter would say right here in front of his microphone,
(04:04):
if you can do the job better, come do it.
Come take it from me. Give me the same challenge
I give it everybody for the last that game. You
can do this job better, come take it from me.
I'd love to hear it. Five six six zeros a
text line if you guys got a comment on that.
The KWAIE Sports Show today had a great interview with
Rod Smith. I want to play a little bit of
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that for you.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Now, all right, Ron, I want to ask you about
bow Nicks. You said something a little bit earlier about
Bo that you thought that he played well enough for
the Broncos to win that game. Where are you at
with him and his progress up to this point.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I think he's gotten better man as the season went on.
Remember we were talking about him drifting in the pocket
quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
A lot of his.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Throws were behind. You saw when they moved a pocket
a little bit, he stepped up and hit Carling. And
then last drive, remember that's the only drive we doubled
our yardst production on one drive. We had fifty some
yards on that drive, I believe, and we had twenty
five to the whole first the whole second half. So
going back to Nix's point, we can't score points and
we're not getting any yards.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We can't even get in fieldal rays.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Right, and before we finally did at the end of
the game, they played that perfect.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I just think that kid man, he has heart.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Man. I love the way he competes. The guys follow him,
and that's what you gotta have. You got to have
that trust. And I think the guys trust bold Knicks.
I trust both Knicks, and I love the way he's
a spark. He's just a spark and when it don't
go well, he's a spark and I just I know
great things are going to continue to happen for him.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
I'm with you, man, And they're really opening up some
of the deep passing game, which is I think is
a really big deal right early on. And you see
this with rookies, right, I mean, you're trying to work
with their strengths, You're trying to work with what's their comfortability,
Maybe him scrambling a little bit too much at times,
just because hey, we got to be able to do something.
We're trying to win games right now. But now, I
think we saw sort of a maturity step forward in
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this game and that final drive to milk the clock
down to one second. I mean when you get the ball,
and I know that this was like a calling card
of the Broncos teams you were on when you guys
were winning your championships. Hey, six minute drive or we
got that, you're not touching the ball again. And I
thought that was such a cool moment for this team.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
No, it's a cool moment for him as well, because
you're going against the defending champs. You're going against the
greatest quarterback in.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
The current era, which is Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Three super Bowls, but three MVPs, Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You're going against this dude.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Head to head, and here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
You can get that w if we all got to
be on the same page and hopefully, like you said,
he can galvanize an area where all of us are
looking at every moment we have in the game to
make sure you're not the one that they can go
back and say, hey, man, if you did better on this,
we'd be We probably would have won that game. You
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don't want to be that guy, and then we've all
had those moments where we don't play our best. But
to me, I love the effort of our team, the
heart fought effort. You're going against the undefeated, defending champs,
and that's a it's a tough feed, especially in that building. Man,
we didn't win a lot of games in that building.
We competed hard every time and for them, I wanted
them to have that moment.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Do you feel that this loss can be the catalyst
to helping this team and the organization move on past
this twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
We have to.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Man.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We were talking off air and we brought up the
Chargers and I said, what is the Chargers record?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You told me sixty three. I was shocked. See this
is AFC West football. If the steps we.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Have right now is almost we're getting to the ploy
where's almost impossible to win the AFC West unless the
wheels fall off of two teams completely and we ride
as hard as we can ride for.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
These next seven weeks.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
We got to win out just to try to get
into the playoffs. You got Cincinnati Bengals offense is probably
the most one of the most high powered offices in
the league.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Lamar Jackson didn't through twenty.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Four touchdown passing halfway through the season already. He threw
twenty four the whole last season and he was envy.
So these are all AFC teams. Pittsburgh has won three straight.
We got a ton of AFC stuff going on right now.
Every time we missed these moments, it's gonna be harder
for us to get to the postseason.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And I think we I mean, you got it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Every game from here on out, you got to treat
you like a playoff game because if you don't, you
ain't gonna be in a playoffs.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
So I know, on the heels of two losses, especially
two losses against the powerhouses of the AFC can be
difficult to answer to this, but do you think the
Broncos have the pieces in place, the coaching, the players
to do exactly that.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
You know what makes it hard because I feel we're
still experimenting. We're still like trying to figure out our identity.
We haven't leaned on one thing heavy, one way or
another any game every every games and of course you
don't run the same game plan every game because you
play against different teams, but you still have an identity
and right now we had it to me. We have
an identity crisis moment, and this late in the season,
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we need to find it. And the reason why I
lean heavy on the running game the weather. The weather
is about to change or the weather's already changing. We're
in November, and if you want to get to January,
you gotta play well in November and December. And we
get our work cutout for us when we.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Find a way to drop a game or two.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
We got to start fast in the first quarter, continue
what's happening in the second quarter, even though the second
quarters good, make adjustments because the third and fourth quarter
have been not good at all. They're like almost non existent.
When it's probably having what twenty something points in four
games in eight quarters when you look at it that way.
So if we're gonna get to the playoffs, if we're
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gonna give I want this roop to have that experience
man and getting into those playoffs and go and try
to knock somebody off. Him and his guys versus you
and your guys. Go back to backyard football, where it's fun,
run the things that we're good at, keep it basic.
We don't have to have to come home being creative
and go out and win some football games.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
That was the KA Sports Shows interview with Rod Smith
earlier today. I always love what Rod has to add,
and I think he's right in a lot of ways,
and that the Broncos could stand to just get back
to basics and be more efficient.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I like this point about the identity crisis, you know,
like it seems like we're trying to do things that
don't fit the mold of this team. Why aren't we
getting back to the basics. Why aren't we running the
ball more? Why aren't we making things? Why don't we
go back to what Bonnicks did at Oregon and look
at some of the easy throws he had that got
him that high completion percentage and install some of those
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things with Sean Payton and the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the thing to me that
I took away, one of the things that I took
away from this game that I love is the way
that we are driving at the end before setting up
the field goal. It was a drive with purpose. It
was a drive with intent. They were running the ball
with physicality. And for me, while we're growing bo Nicks,
(11:13):
I'm wondering, if we don't rely on that more, if
we trust Audric Estimate to hang on to the ball,
why don't we rely on that more. A little bit
of Estimate, a little bit of Javonte, a little bit
of Jalil, and just keep that three head of JABBERWOCKI going.
Keep it basic, don't get more complicated than you have
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to at this point. I love the fact that the
Broncos are, you know, in the driver's seat for a
playoff spot. They got some tough games coming up. Of course,
they need to beat the Falcons to continue that, but
you know, you've got some tough games coming up here
late in the season. This is a really good learning
experience for a young team being in the hunt, learning
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how to win, learning how to manage expectations, learning how
to stay focused, learning how to deal with devastating losses
from both ends, because you got you had a devastating
loss to the Baltimore Ravens, but you weren't in that game.
You got boat raced.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, I think that was a good game for perspective
where you needed to go.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Right, and then you had a devastating loss to Kansas
City in an entirely different perspective of we hung with
Super Bowl champions and then gave it away at the end.
It's to me again, this is growth experience. This is
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invaluable growth experience. The dever Broncos are the third youngest
team in the NFL. You heard me say that over
and over. There's something to that. There's something to being
a veteran in the league and knowing certain things. There's
something to being young and growing through certain things. So
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this team has an incredible growth opportunity right now to
have experienced the wide range of emotion that you can,
the elation of victory and keeping yourself in the playoff hunt,
something that the Devil Raucos have not gotten since the
Super Bowl nearly a decade and then the letdown of
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getting vote raced by I don't want to. I mean,
a clearly superior team of Baltimore is probably just the
way to put it. You don't want to, you don't
want to put the Broncos. You don't want to say that.
But but in reality, I mean, let's let's let's be
real here, let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I mean, the Ravens may be superior to everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That they might be.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I'm interested to see this Pittsburgh matchup that they got
coming up. Lamar has not played well traditionally against the Steelers.
I'm interested to see that matchup, and Russ has been
on fire lately since coming back from the injury, so
it'd be interesting to see that matchup.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I know the NFL is all about wins and losses,
and that's how you're judged. But you mentioned the Broncos
being such a young team, and especially with bo at
the quarterback position and hopefully he has so many more
games against Patrick Mahomes and that rivalry. Is this a
game that you can really grow from as a team.
I mean, even though it's a loss, is it a
game that can really propel you into that next phase
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of who you want to be.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I mean, I think it can. I think you have
to make that if you go back and we had
Mike Clisson was it last week, I guess, and he
was in his book he talked about that how the
loss to Jacksonville really lit the fire for the Denver
broncos it paved the way for the rest of the
Elway era because they used that game as a rallying cry.
They'd expected to win that game and that gut punched
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that feeling that whole off season where you sat there
and stewed with it, and you used that as a
rallying cry. Every time you're in the weight room lifting
and somebody's cheating out a rep and you're like, no man, Jacksonville.
Somebody's rounding out a cut in practice. Not man, Jacksonville.
Somebody's ready to give up after a bad day, No man, Jacksonville. Granted,
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that's a playoff loss, you had an entire season to
steal over. At this, you've got to you know, this
is a much more microcosm situation because it's the middle
of the season, But you can still take that and
hold that to that to that standard for the week,
No man we're not we're not round out cuts, we're
not having bad practice days. We're putting the we're putting
the extra attention, rep film time, whatever it takes in.
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We don't want to repeat.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, And I thought a good point that Rod made
was that you can't carry this and you can take
it with you forward.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And this is a growth opportunity.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
And he was part of those teams in the lay
era and he knows what he's talking about. And I
think this is something that can really help them grow.
They've shown that they belong. Now they show that they
can compete. Now this is a standard every week going forward.
You need to perform up to this level. Even though
it was a loss. You were toe to toe with
a two time defending Super Bowl champions. Can you can
play that way? Now, let's play that way every week
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and against these lesser teams, they're gonna end up in victories.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, And that's what you need. I mean, it's at
the end of the day, if you can get to
the falcons and you get these lesser teams, but hold
the standard the same against good teams and bad teams.
That's where you gotta come with victories. NFL six packs next.
I have six six nine zeros in text line for sure,
but of that joined us tonight Steve Atwater first Hour,
Tim Jenkins, and Ryan Michael in the last hour as well.
(16:29):
If you guys want to listen to go to Brookos
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any other With that, it's time for an NFL six pack.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Time for the NFL six pack.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
I'm gonna trade the last year insight and insight information
you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
No. Six the top six NFL headlines.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
What well things are heating up for the New York Giants.
Brian Dave all getting questions about if they will bench
Daniel Jones during the bye week.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
A Ball said, we're.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Gonna get started on the process here of going back
and looking at everything you'd normally look at in a
bye week, schemes, situational stuff, and technique, all the things
you do in a normal bye week. Their GM Joe
Shane also asked about it. He said any benching would
be based on Jones' performance and not the injury guarantee
in his contract, something we saw last year last year
(17:22):
here in Denver. The question for you, will Jones be
benched this week, and do you believe Joe Shane.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I believe in them in the sense that everything's being
looked at. As far as that process goes. I think
they want to see a couple of practices with Drew
Locke and Tommy DeVito. Uh at the you know, at
the Helm, I forgot about Tommy DeVito. I suspect it'll
be Drew Locke. I if I if I were a
betting man right now, we would bet the Daniel Jones
(17:52):
it played his last down as a New York Giant. Wow.
And I think you have to. I mean, those two guys,
you can't continue to roll with Daniel Jones and save
your jobs, right. So I do tend to believe them.
In part of that, I do believe the injury guarantee
is just one other consideration in the pile. The reality
is the performance has not been where it needs to be,
and so at this point you try any of the
(18:14):
other two guys and see what they've got.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I'm hoping for some Drew lock time with the New
York Giants, Drew Simber. Drew Simber, because I was thinking October.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That was in October, No Jones, November, and then Drew somber.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
We Go and shout out to Daniel Jones for getting
his money either way too.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Following a game three game losing streak where the Bears
have averaged a measly nine points per game, the Chicago
Bears announced today that they are firing their offensive coordinator
Shane Waldron, just nine games into his Bears tenure. Do
you think this will help the Bears offense improve or
if they had.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Just a lost cause this year?
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Well?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I don't. I mean, I don't know what you're going
to do to improve it at this point because the
guy at the hell you're removing, and it's not like
you can install a new offense and you're hoping that
having someone else will will, you know, maybe play to
his strengths a little bit. But at the end of
the day, I mean, what are you gonna do here?
You know, I don't know that it improves it per se.
I thought that it was the wrong hire to begin with.
(19:17):
They had Cliff Kingsbury in the building and let him walk,
and now you can see what Cliff's dealing with Jaden
Daniels in Washington. You had the right guy for that
quarterback in the building and you'll let him go to
bring in you know, Shane Waldron and I get sort
of at the time the resume Shane had resurrected Geno Smith.
You thought maybe that, you know, that offense was going
to be able to do that, but you know it
was a bad hire. It's been a bad higher. It's
(19:39):
not just that though. I mean, the Bears offensive line
needs help. They they've got to find ways to buy
Caleb William's more time to let things slow down. It's
like when we saw at the beginning of the year
when Bow looked for anetick and rushed and all that
kind of stuff. Sometimes it's not just the offensive line.
Sometimes the quarterback is doing too much, you know, and
you've got to find ways to simplify things, make it
as easy on them as possible. With the Bears, it's
(20:00):
a combination of things, you know, And so at the
end of the day, I think you've got to find ways.
You've got to find ways to simplify it and make
it easier on him, and once you do that, let
it slow down. Then he'll then pick up the pace.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
How are you feeling about Caleb Williams and his progression and.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Not any different than I did when he was drafted.
I think he's a good quarterback and he's gonna be
a good quarterback in the NFL. I think they just
need to give him time to let the speed of
the game catch up.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
How would you rank the rookie quarterback class that we
have seen so far? Obviously with McCarthy out in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Smaller sample size for Drake May, but I think you'd
probably go Jade and Bow Drake, and then you're looking
at what Caleb Williams and J. J. McCarthy, Spencer Rattler.
I'm trying to think of who else is what other
rookies have played.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I think that's it this yere right, Yeah, Spencer is
the last one. Yeah, obviously at the Metha.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Pennis Michael Pennix has a played, so you know, so
I think that's I mean, not any appreciable bounds. I
think you played like three downs. But anyway, I think
that's how you'd have to rank him three. Well, if
you watched.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Monday Night Football last night, you saw the Dolphins get
a win. You also saw to a tongue of Iloa
trying deliver a tackle after he threw an interception.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
This is what he had to say about it after
the game. I feel good, everything's good.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I went up.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I went up to that dude to intercepted.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Me and asked him, like, Bro, you couldn't just like
ran out of mound like cut back. It's like you
seen me and I seen you, like you wanted to
just run me over. He told me after the game.
There was like like there's no room.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
There, like there was nowhere else to go.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
So, you know, he he got to do what you
gotta do to to help.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
His team win games.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And you know, I wasn't.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
I wasn't planning on using my head to go get him.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Down there, but I guess it's like kind of like
side of your head.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
You nah, I didn't feel feel any of that. That
was pretty bad tackling for him though.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That was pretty terrible to.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
A joking about it after the game, But uh, man,
you just hold your breath every time he's involved in
any collision with his concussion history. Is there anything more
the Dolphins can do to protect to it or does
he just have to protect himself?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, I mean he's got to protect himself first and foremost.
The team's done what they can. You know, the team's
done everything they can. He's making the decision to be
out there, He's making the decision not to where any
other protecting the equipment, He's making decisions do all that.
He's the one that's got to protect himself at the
end of the day. I mean you, you know, the
league and the NFL is a brand, tries to make
the game as safe as possible for the players, but
(22:33):
there's still an inherent element of risk, and at that
point it's on you to protect yourself as much as possible.
You definitely should not be leading with your head trying
to make a tackle. As a guy who's had multiple
traumatic brain injuries. You know, I don't know what else
to say at this point to us playing with fire,
and it sucks to watch that happen. That sucks to
watch a guy who is I mean, I don't want
(22:56):
to say oblivious to the consequences, but doesn't care, I guess,
or doesn't care enough as to what those consequences could
be to continue to put himself in harm's way and
eventually you play with fire eventually get burned.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Yeah, And I mean, like you said, he's got to
protect himself and he knows the risks.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
He just doesn't seem to care about him.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
You heard him in his press conference following the last
injury that he loves football to the death of him
and he will continue to play this game. I think
we're all just as an NFL community, hoping that we
don't see the worst of the outcomes.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I mean, I think that at the end of
the day, you're hoping that you're hoping that even in
playing with fire, he gets away with it. But you're
kind of not really holding your breath that that's hope.
There's not a long term strategy for well.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Non NFL news, the latest college football playoff rankings have
been released.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
A couple of.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Notables outside of the top twelve. Army coming in at
number twenty four with their nine to zero record, See
you in the next four out ranked number seventeen this
week at seven and two game back of BYU and
the Big twelve standings controlling their own destiny. And Georgia
comes in at number twelve, but they are not currently
(24:05):
in the College Football Playoff because Boise State jumps them
as a G five school, Poise State coming in at twelve.
Anything that surprised you with this week's college football rankings,
and are you excited about the twelve team playoff?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I can't wait for it.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, I mean I think it should have been eight.
I think they were too small to begin with and
they got too large. But there's twelve is really gonna
give some some teams that I think otherwise might not
have a shot at getting in. Like you've talked about Army.
You know, they be Notre Dame, and the road's paved
for them to get in. They're in if they be
pretty much. So I you know, that's one of those
things where excuse me, that's one of those things where
I think that could be fun. Colorado currently at seventeen,
(24:42):
they've got the rod paid ahead of them. Kansas State
being ahead of them is kind of interesting. I mean,
it's fine Colorado controls its destiny would eventually pass them,
but that sort of a reminder that, hey, case State
beat Colorado, so that's why we have that there. Tennessee
being behind Indiana BYU is a little interesting. It's a
one walls Tennessee team and an undefeated Indiana BYU team,
But Indiana BYU schedules significantly softer than the Tennessee, so
(25:06):
that that one kind of surprises me, I guess a
little bit. Otherwise, you know, Tulane being at twenty fives
a little much, but I think that's there to boost army,
you know in the AAC, so especially with two losses.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Yeah, and Indiana strength of schedule this year, one hundred
and third, and I am so pumped for these home
games in the first round, you know, the five through
twelve seeds that are you know, right now we have
Boise State playing at the Horseshoe at Ohio State. I
think that's just going to be such a cool scene
for college football.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, we got some good stuff coming up down the
stretch with college football. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna
be a fun race to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Five.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Roger Goodell said that the NFL is hoping to play
eight international games and twenty twenty five, three more than
any prior season, and it's going to be spanning three
continents and six different countries, three in the UK, one
in Spain, one in Germany, one in Mexico City, and
potentially one in Ireland, which I think they should get.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Back to Ireland.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Do you think this international growth is good for the NFL?
And do you think that it's a toll on the
players with the travel, and do you think it's affecting
the quality of the games overseas well.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Mexico City doesn't. It's in the it's in one of
the current time zones that's just going south out of
Mexico City, so that that when that is not that
does not affected by that. In terms of Spain, Germany
or the UK, obviously there's a big time zone difference,
there's a travel difference, all that kind of stuff. Yeah,
I mean, I do think that there's obviously a quality
of the game. Part of that was just the teams
(26:38):
that were playing. I mean, the Giants and the Panthers
stink the quality What was the quality of that game
going to be here?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Just as bad, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I mean, so you know, I'm not too I'm not
too worried about that. I think the teams in the
league has started to get used to and made efficient
the ways to uh, the ways to do this and
get quality performances. I was in London for the the
Broncos Jags game, and you know, I thought that that
was I thought that game was was fine. I didn't
(27:06):
think that there was a lower quality game in terms
of any of that kind of stuff. I think that
was just two mediocre teams at the time playing each other.
So I don't think it hurts anything. I don't. I
don't think. I think the quality of the game is
determined by the quality of the team's playing, you know.
And I think they've got the travel down to an
efficient point at this point. They want to expand one
to Ireland, which they haven't done. You know, they haven't
(27:28):
done Ireland yet, so they want to put a game
in Ireland. I think it's good for growing the game globally,
which as we see with the Olympics, you know, it's
starting to include some of this kind of stuff. I
think that's good for the game, and that'll be it'll
be interesting. It'll be interesting to see if it takes
foothold the way that Basketball did when they tried to
make that, when they began to make that a global brand,
(27:50):
and I would see that it really is.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Do you think that we could see a team in
the next I don't know, five to ten years be
you know, a home team, you know, like the Jaguars.
The rumors from a few years back that they were
just going to move to London do you think that's
a real possibility in the next five to ten years.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I don'ge. I've never thought that that was gonna happen.
I think that's a that I think that's a big
hype thing that if they ever do put a team
in London into the expansion team, and it's tough to
do because the taxes there are wildly different, so you
would have to find ways, like free agents would have
to take exhorbitantly higher contracts. A team that's playing there
(28:30):
would be an inherent disadvantage monetarily because of the salary cap,
because of you know, again having to pay more people
more money in order to balance out the the tax
issues there. You'd have to find a way to work
around that. There's a lot of there's a lot of
issues that you wouldn't think are top line issues to
putting a team there, and that's before you get into
the logistics to try to everybody to play there. To me,
if you were going to do that, you need to
expand the league by four teams and put four of
(28:51):
them equal division, a whole division in Europe, and then
somebody's gonna go play the whole division over there. You know,
they they would come over here, you know, you'd have
to do the scheduling that way. I don't believe that
there will be an NFL team in London in my lifetime. Wow.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Okay, with players you've talked to, how do they feel
about the International Games?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Do they like it?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Do they they get the they get the you know,
you get a kind of you know, the bye week.
Obviously you get to go over there and have some
fun and all that kind of stuff. I've never heard
anybody complain about it. I did hear people complain about
the prior preseason to the International Games. Everyone hated that
going over during the season. I mean, I've not heard
too many people complain about it. There may be a
player here or there, but they've not been vocal in
(29:31):
the criticisms.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Six.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
This is a little bit of a fun story. And
by the way, shout out to Zach Seegers for putting
together the NFL six pack. I meant to intro as
Zach Seeger's NFL six pack, not.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Bob Seekers NFL six pack, the Silver Bullet.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
No, he didn't even know Bob Seger was.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
That's that's sort of a problem.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Anyway.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Number six is on December ninth, the NFL will be
airing the first ever Simpson's Fun Day Football, an alternative
alternate broadcast of them Monday night football game between the
Cincinnati Bengals Who Dah and Dallas Cowboys that will transform
the game into the world of the Simpsons. Do you
(30:10):
enjoy these alternate NFL broadcasts and do you have.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Any interest in the Simpsons outcast?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I'm gonna does. I don't watch almost any of these
alternate I don't know that. I watched the Manning cast
a few times, but to be honest with you, it
feels like it takes away from the game. Like I
love the conversations, but I usually watch the conversations after
the game exactly as it takes away from my enjoyment
of the game. And if it's live sports, I'll watch
it live. I don't watch recorded live sports. I just
don't do it. No, I've never I didn't want. I mean,
(30:36):
I turned on for a second the Nickelodeon cast just
to sort of see what the CG was there. Yeah,
just to see that. I mean, I'll tune into this
for a couple of minutes just to sort of see
what it is, because you know it's in this domain
that we cover in a sports so I'll have to
I'll at least have to pay some attention as a fan.
Would it have been something I would have made appointment television? No,
And I don't even understand the tie in here, Like,
(30:57):
I don't understand why are we turning it to you know,
why not do South Park? I mean, you know at
that point, I like, I don't. I don't understand the
tie in here. I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I don't understand any aspect of.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Yeah, we had SpongeBob and Patrick last year.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I think I think cgi the players the Simpsons characters here,
Like I don't. I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Yeah, And I'm like you, I when I watch a game,
I want the traditional broadcast. I watch the manning cast
stuff later, or if the game's a blowout and they
have an interesting guest on, I'll I'll flip over to it.
But I want my sports as a traditional broadcast, two
men in the booth, someone on the sidelines. And but
like you said, with the international game, it's it's for growth,
and I think this is bringing a new audience into
(31:36):
the game at least.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm uh I'll peek at it, you know,
just to see maybe it'll get me a chuckle or something.
But I just like to watch football for football. I
don't need gimmicks to watch football, you know. And maybe
that's what that is. Maybe it's a gimmick to try
to get to it, you know. Like I was thinking
this to give me to get the kids involved. But
I'm like that, do the kids watch the Simpsons? Yeah,
I think that's more of a like our generation. It's
(31:58):
I mean, good Lord forever, you know, thirty plus years.
I don't know that that's I don't know. It's to
draw for the kids, the utes, I don't know. Hopefully
it's fun. We'll see Broncos Country tonight. Drills on here
on Kawin say you the game that if I want
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