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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's go right out to the KWA common Spirital hotline though,
and bring on our good friend Parker Gabriel at Parker J.
Gabriel on Twitter, Covers of broadcast for the Denver Post
and Parker, there's a there's an important college football game
coming up this weekend I want to talk about, uh,
but I just don't know how prepared.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You are to talk about Notre Dame and Army.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So uh, Colorado taking on Kansas, which may be of
secondary importance, although some people in this market may find
it more important.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, and Wisconsin and Nebraska, which is my alma mater
and the team I covered for five years.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You never heard of either of them?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah? Yeah, either or worth a book that the the longest,
the longest tenured offensive coordinator in that game will be
Dana Holgerson at ten days.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, I had to be thought of that.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
But yeah, that is uh, that is something that is
a that is certainly a talking point in that game.
And Dana Olgerson man, how by how the mighty have fallen?
And I mean his star was that it was a
rocket ship ascending a decade and a half ago and
now it was an assistant, just begging to get in
somewhere and find himself falling backwards into the OC spot
in Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, that's about right. I mean's friends with Matt Ruhle,
and he did a whole bunch of he did. I mean,
he did some stuff this offseason, did the consulting thing
at TCU for like two games. Now getting paid seventy
thousand a months to be the intermost in Nebraska. So hey,
there's always work, you know, if if you know the
right people.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Parker were starting a college football program, I just need
you to be prepared for that. As as we look
at this, and I do want to talk about SEU
Kansas for a second, I felt like this was always
going to be the toughest game on the schedule for them.
I had anticipated Kansas being a better football team than
they were going to be this year. However, they appear
to have gotten it together a post bye week.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They won three of their last four.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
The only game they lost Kansas State, a two point loss.
They look like they're playing like everyone expected them to
play at the start of the season. Now this could
be Colorado's toughest opponent on the way to perhaps a
big twelve title game appearance.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, I think you're right. Uh, And and you're right,
Kansas has played better of late. Lance Blappel is really
good coach. Obviously, you know, it's not all that long
ago we would have been laughing about the prospect of
either Kansas or See You being relevant in any way,
and so obviously, uh, it's changed for both in recent years.
Kansas on you know, it's just turnovers I think have
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been mostly their thing. They've played in some shootouts, and
so when they don't turn the ball over, they're tough
to beat. But you know, See You has just they've
played so well. They're on they're on such a run.
And when you at any given time, almost no matter
who you're playing, have two best players on the field.
But it's really like the three best players on the
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field with Travis Hunter coming for two and then obviously
shoulder standards. You're just you're gonna be in a lot
of games, especially at that level of talent. So it's amazing.
You know, it's kind of fun talking to guys around
the Broncos locker room, specifically about Travis because you know,
anybody you talk to in the football world is just
in awe of what he does week in and week out,
and so yeah, he did one. And and you know,
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Colorado playing for a conference championship is very quickly becoming
like a real possibility.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well, speaking of possibilities and Colorado based football teams, the
Denver Broncos so all of a sudden back on the
other side of that six and five positive records, the
next four games look fairly winnable, eminently winnable three games anyway,
and you look at the rest of the slate here
and it's lining up pretty nice for the Denver Broncos.
Coming off a blowout win over the Atlanta Falcons. First
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of all, you know, I hesitate to say that Bonix
has arrived, but I am using the phrase I think
we got something here, although again it was an Atlanta
defense was way way worse than we thought it was.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think like it's one of
those things where you can I think you can make
a little bit of of no matter what you want,
out of the way Bonick has played over the last
six weeks. I mean, if you want to say that
they've ripped up a couple of bad defenses, that's probably fair.
You want to say that at least some of the
production has come in blowouts one way or the other,
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the fourth quarter against the Chargers, you know, some of
the stuff against the Raiders, and then obviously this past week. Like, okay,
it's fair, but I just also think it's undeniable that
he's made real progress. And so in the same way
that I think it's silly after four games to say,
oh man, bust, oh Man, the Broncos are in trouble.
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Oh Man, when is it ever going to click in
any capacity for bo Nicks, I also think it's sort
of silly to say after eleven games, like, yep, here
it is, he's going to be one of the best
quarterbacks in football for a decade plus. Like let's just
you know, it's sort of like Sean Payton said in
his own way on this conference call on Monday, like
let's not put him in Canton yet. Let's not say
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or or hold him to anything really to narrative, un
Let's just see how far he can take this rendering
his Rooki year, because he's obviously having fun. The guys
obviously believe in him. He's done some really good things
the past few weeks, and he's sort of everybody is
writing their own story week by week, but it feels
especially true with him, just given you know how quickly
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he's caught on and now the opportunity that is in
front of him and the Broncos talking.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
With Parker Gabriel to never post at Parker J. Gabriel
on Twitter. I think the thing for me is that
we can have it can be an and conversation and
not an over conversation. What I mean by that is
that bo Nicks can have had a great day and
the Falcons defense can be bad. It doesn't have to
be either, or we don't have to put this in
hot take binary dynamics. As far as this stuff goes.
He can be checking the boxes week after week, beating
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up on depleted Saints teams, the bad Panthers, bad Falcons, whatever,
but it's undeniable that he also had that same standard
performance against Kansas City, arguably a super Bowl caliber defense.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, right, that's what I mean. Yeah, I was thinking
that as you were talking about. I mean, I think
you know, you could make the argument obviously they lost
the game, they scored fourteen points compared to thirty eight
and all of that, and I think that you could
you could make the argument if you wanted to, that
what he did against Kansas City was every bit as impressed,
were maybe more impressive than what he did against a
beat up Atlanta defense. And to me, like the thing
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that becomes true over the course of time in football,
especially with so much attention, so much you know, data
available at our fingertips, so many people chiming in with
so many different opinions, like the more you play and
the more you win, and the more you do it
in different types of games, sort of like the more
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consensus builds around who you are. And then even then,
like Rockberty is multiple years down this road and there
is still a weekly argument about, you know, is he
good or not, is he elite or not? Is he
a guy that you want to pay fifty million dollars
a year or not? Like at every way point along
the way, there's discourse unless you're just you know, obviously
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one of the few you know, very best on the planet.
And so this is probably always going to be part
of the conversation with bow Knicks. But I think when
you just take the last few weeks, you know, a
blowout against Carolina, the tough games on the road, against
playoff contenders, one with a bad defense and one with
a good defense then Atlanta. You know, like you just
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build this rolodex of Yeah, it looks a little different
every week. He's doing some impressive things every week. There's
things he can improve on every week, like what more
do you need than that? And Denver's in the playoff
conversation eleven games into his career.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I think the more fascinating angle for me at this
point is how good this team actually is despite the
way everybody talked about them at the beginning of the year.
The defense is obviously elite, but it was funny during
the first four games how you had everybody oil the
offensive line camp protect bow nicks Y. Then it was
the receivers couldn't separate, And now all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's magic.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The offensive line is one of the best lines in football.
The receivers can magically start to separate. Oh and by
the way the game slowed down for the rookie quarterback,
everybody should have had patience for in the beginning. I
think that that's the thing. I mean, you're talking about
sportsbooks that had this team at a ludicrous five and
a half number for the over runner on wins. Congratulations
everybody getting paid this weekend. After the Falcons BLOWOFUF, I like,
I think the thing to me is how good this
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team is.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Totally yeah, And you know, I think it's one of
the things, like they they have been very good on
defense from the start. They they got blown out one
week in Baltimore, and besides that, they've just been They've
been remarkably consistent and and and really dominant, even despite
the fact that they they haven't gone on a big
turnover bonanza like they did last year in the middle
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of the season. The thing with the offense that's so interesting,
Like I had a question someone someone had a question
for our mailbag this week about you know, sticking with
boon Nicks, their struggles early in the season and all
these young guys that struggled early on. I was I
was like, yeah, I mean that's the point. The point is, like,
look what the Rams did last year. They played a
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bunch of young guys. They weren't very good early in
the season, and they just were betting that their best
chance to be in it at the end was to
take talented young players who didn't have a lot of
experience let them grow through mistakes and bank on them
being a lot better in week twelve and then in
week sixteen and seventeen and eighteen than they were at
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the beginning of the year. And like, I think you're
seeing some of that with the Broncos, but they haven't
had a true outside of maybe bon Knicks, Like they
obviously don't have a Pukuinakua like the Rams had last year.
But they have guys that have learned roles, and they
have guys whom the coaching staff has figured out how
to effectively use. And now you're seeing Devon Beley sort of,
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you know, settle into a role that fits him and
that he can really excel in. You're seeing them find
new ways to use Marvin Mims. You know, you're seeing
Audrick estime looking like even if it's not every single week,
like he can provide fresh, energetic, powerful legs down the
stretch of the season. Like you know, you're seeing Joan
Ellis settle into being a pretty solid rotational edge rusher
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in the NFL as a rookie, which isn't all that common,
especially for like a Day two pick. You know, all
of these guys are sort of finding their stride and
it's sort of a plan coming to fruition, like Sean
Payton is notoriously you know, reticent to put a lot
to count on young players a lot, but you know,
with some exceptions, like they've stuck with it and some
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of it's by necessity. But now you're seeing some of
the payoff of that, and it looks different than it
looked ten weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Talk about Parker Gabriel at Parker J. Gabriel on Twitter
of the Denver Post. As we as we, you know,
kind of do this and everyone's basking in the glow
of you know, what should have been at Kansas City?
What did happen with Atlanta coming into town? Let's do
a little sun our milk check here real quick, though,
as we look forward to next season, guys like Courtland, Sutton,
Garrett Bulls, DJ Chals money numbers that may not make
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sense relative to still carrying a cap hit from Russ
and trying to get younger at some of these positions.
Of those three, how many do you expect to be
back any or all of them?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Oh man, that is a great question. I mean, like
just my gut reaction is zero, but I think I
think one is possible, and frankly, like I think two
is possible, I'm not sure it's likely, but like moving
on from Garrett Bowles is not the only way to
sort of like retool the offensive line, And so a
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lot of that comes down to, you know, last year,
I think we all thought, hey, the defensive front is
really going to need a lot of attention, and I
thought Sean Payton and George Payton said an interesting thing.
They didn't like the draft class all that much, so
they signed Malcolm Roach in free agency, they traded for
John Franklin Myers. They did it that way pro scouting
rather than college scouting. And so it's a similar situation
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where to unfold on the offensive line, you could just,
for example, resign Garry Boles and maybe move on from
somebody else, whether it's been Powers or maybe it's at
another position altogether, and sort of like retool rebalance your
books that way too. I don't think that's going to happen,
but I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility.
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Like you heard Sean Payton last week saying, you know,
show me good offensive line metrics and I'll show you
a quarterback that doesn't take Sacks. That doesn't sound like
a guy who's about to pay twenty million dollars a
year to keep the left tackle. But you never know,
so Colon Sutton, maybe he's played really well the last
four weeks. DJ Jones is one of those where if
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you don't think you can get better, I don't see
why you wouldn't spring him back on a short deal.
But it's a really it's shaping up to be a
good defensive line draft, and maybe they'll try to go
younger that way. And you know they're gonna have to
pay Zach Allen a lot of money at some point
if they want to keep him beyond next season.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Right, talk about Parker Gabriel here, Parker, let me let
me build on that. Then there if they do move
on from Garrett Bowles, how likely do you think the
scenario that you moved Mike mcglinchy back over to left
tackle where he played for a while and put Alex
Pelshowski at the right tackle. Al Poll looked pretty good
out there when he was filling in for McGlinchey.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's possible, And I know
people like I know, people jump right to you know,
Mike mcglinchey's sort of like issues in past protection over
his career, but like one way or another, Sean Payton
has talked so much about the effect that bo Nicks
has on their stack numbers that at some point that
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is going to manifest itself and how they manage their
roster like it didn't this year. He's a rookie, you know,
but long term it's going to And if that's saying,
you know, we think we can get away with having
Michae McGlinchey, even though he's not the world's best pass
corrector on the on the left side, that's one way
to do it. If that's saying, hey, you know Frank
Crumb's rob we think after a full year readier ear,
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you know, that might work. That's one way to think
about it. You know, Palcho just seems like a right tackle.
He's played some guards. But like, yeah, I mean, I
just think that some way, shape or form, at some point,
Sean Payton is going to put this theory about bo
Nix being maybe the number one ingredient in sac suppression
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to the test.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing that as well. Raiders
Week Broncos flying out to take on the Raiders do
we see Are we projecting any hiccups here or is
this is as much of a cake walks as I
think it is.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, I don't I think they'll win. I just think,
like I thought, I don't know what you thought, Ben, Like,
I just thought that there was one of two ways
the Atlanta game can go. It right from the start,
and I thought, even you know, we don't see much
of practice, just thirty minutes a day or whatever, but
like they were, they were very clearly locked in all
week and from the start after the Kansas City game
is really impressive response to that watch. I think that'll continue.
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I just sometimes will mention, like, you know, they haven't
actually won in Vegas yet, that's that'll end at some point.
I think it will be on Sunday. But it just
has been one of those places where bad performances and
weird stuff has happened. So if they come out and dominate,
you know, consider it another box checks on the you know,
Vanquishing Demons tour. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I love how the national media is all of a
sudden jumping on the Bow bandwagon. Even they're a little
bow curious. So we look forward to seeing them continue
to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Parker.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Always appreciate talking to you, buddy. Look forward to seeing
you this week. Ye take care, Parker Gabriel that Parker J.
Gabriel on Twitter. Never post
Let's go right out to the KWA common Spirital hotline though,
and bring on our good friend Parker Gabriel at Parker J.
Gabriel on Twitter, Covers of broadcast for the Denver Post
and Parker, there's a there's an important college football game
coming up this weekend I want to talk about, uh,
but I just don't know how prepared.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You are to talk about Notre Dame and Army.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So uh, Colorado taking on Kansas, which may be of
secondary importance, although some people in this market may find
it more important.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, and Wisconsin and Nebraska, which is my alma mater
and the team I covered for five years.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You never heard of either of them?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah? Yeah, either or worth a book that the the longest,
the longest tenured offensive coordinator in that game will be
Dana Holgerson at ten days.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, I had to be thought of that.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
But yeah, that is uh, that is something that is
a that is certainly a talking point in that game.
And Dana Olgerson man, how by how the mighty have fallen?
And I mean his star was that it was a
rocket ship ascending a decade and a half ago and
now it was an assistant, just begging to get in
somewhere and find himself falling backwards into the OC spot
in Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, that's about right. I mean's friends with Matt Ruhle,
and he did a whole bunch of he did. I mean,
he did some stuff this offseason, did the consulting thing
at TCU for like two games. Now getting paid seventy
thousand a months to be the intermost in Nebraska. So hey,
there's always work, you know, if if you know the
right people.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Parker were starting a college football program, I just need
you to be prepared for that. As as we look
at this, and I do want to talk about SEU
Kansas for a second, I felt like this was always
going to be the toughest game on the schedule for them.
I had anticipated Kansas being a better football team than
they were going to be this year. However, they appear
to have gotten it together a post bye week.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They won three of their last four.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
The only game they lost Kansas State, a two point loss.
They look like they're playing like everyone expected them to
play at the start of the season. Now this could
be Colorado's toughest opponent on the way to perhaps a
big twelve title game appearance.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, I think you're right. Uh, And and you're right,
Kansas has played better of late. Lance Blappel is really
good coach. Obviously, you know, it's not all that long
ago we would have been laughing about the prospect of
either Kansas or See You being relevant in any way,
and so obviously, uh, it's changed for both in recent years.
Kansas on you know, it's just turnovers I think have
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been mostly their thing. They've played in some shootouts, and
so when they don't turn the ball over, they're tough
to beat. But you know, See You has just they've
played so well. They're on they're on such a run.
And when you at any given time, almost no matter
who you're playing, have two best players on the field.
But it's really like the three best players on the
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field with Travis Hunter coming for two and then obviously
shoulder standards. You're just you're gonna be in a lot
of games, especially at that level of talent. So it's amazing.
You know, it's kind of fun talking to guys around
the Broncos locker room, specifically about Travis because you know,
anybody you talk to in the football world is just
in awe of what he does week in and week out,
and so yeah, he did one. And and you know,
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Colorado playing for a conference championship is very quickly becoming
like a real possibility.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well, speaking of possibilities and Colorado based football teams, the
Denver Broncos so all of a sudden back on the
other side of that six and five positive records, the
next four games look fairly winnable, eminently winnable three games anyway,
and you look at the rest of the slate here
and it's lining up pretty nice for the Denver Broncos.
Coming off a blowout win over the Atlanta Falcons. First
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of all, you know, I hesitate to say that Bonix
has arrived, but I am using the phrase I think
we got something here, although again it was an Atlanta
defense was way way worse than we thought it was.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think like it's one of
those things where you can I think you can make
a little bit of of no matter what you want,
out of the way Bonick has played over the last
six weeks. I mean, if you want to say that
they've ripped up a couple of bad defenses, that's probably fair.
You want to say that at least some of the
production has come in blowouts one way or the other,
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the fourth quarter against the Chargers, you know, some of
the stuff against the Raiders, and then obviously this past week. Like, okay,
it's fair, but I just also think it's undeniable that
he's made real progress. And so in the same way
that I think it's silly after four games to say,
oh man, bust, oh Man, the Broncos are in trouble.
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Oh Man, when is it ever going to click in
any capacity for bo Nicks, I also think it's sort
of silly to say after eleven games, like, yep, here
it is, he's going to be one of the best
quarterbacks in football for a decade plus. Like let's just
you know, it's sort of like Sean Payton said in
his own way on this conference call on Monday, like
let's not put him in Canton yet. Let's not say
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or or hold him to anything really to narrative, un
Let's just see how far he can take this rendering
his Rooki year, because he's obviously having fun. The guys
obviously believe in him. He's done some really good things
the past few weeks, and he's sort of everybody is
writing their own story week by week, but it feels
especially true with him, just given you know how quickly
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he's caught on and now the opportunity that is in
front of him and the Broncos talking.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
With Parker Gabriel to never post at Parker J. Gabriel
on Twitter. I think the thing for me is that
we can have it can be an and conversation and
not an over conversation. What I mean by that is
that bo Nicks can have had a great day and
the Falcons defense can be bad. It doesn't have to
be either, or we don't have to put this in
hot take binary dynamics. As far as this stuff goes.
He can be checking the boxes week after week, beating
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up on depleted Saints teams, the bad Panthers, bad Falcons, whatever,
but it's undeniable that he also had that same standard
performance against Kansas City, arguably a super Bowl caliber defense.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, right, that's what I mean. Yeah, I was thinking
that as you were talking about. I mean, I think
you know, you could make the argument obviously they lost
the game, they scored fourteen points compared to thirty eight
and all of that, and I think that you could
you could make the argument if you wanted to, that
what he did against Kansas City was every bit as impressed,
were maybe more impressive than what he did against a
beat up Atlanta defense. And to me, like the thing
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that becomes true over the course of time in football,
especially with so much attention, so much you know, data
available at our fingertips, so many people chiming in with
so many different opinions, like the more you play and
the more you win, and the more you do it
in different types of games, sort of like the more
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consensus builds around who you are. And then even then,
like Rockberty is multiple years down this road and there
is still a weekly argument about, you know, is he
good or not, is he elite or not? Is he
a guy that you want to pay fifty million dollars
a year or not? Like at every way point along
the way, there's discourse unless you're just you know, obviously
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one of the few you know, very best on the planet.
And so this is probably always going to be part
of the conversation with bow Knicks. But I think when
you just take the last few weeks, you know, a
blowout against Carolina, the tough games on the road, against
playoff contenders, one with a bad defense and one with
a good defense then Atlanta. You know, like you just
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build this rolodex of Yeah, it looks a little different
every week. He's doing some impressive things every week. There's
things he can improve on every week, like what more
do you need than that? And Denver's in the playoff
conversation eleven games into his career.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I think the more fascinating angle for me at this
point is how good this team actually is despite the
way everybody talked about them at the beginning of the year.
The defense is obviously elite, but it was funny during
the first four games how you had everybody oil the
offensive line camp protect bow nicks Y. Then it was
the receivers couldn't separate, And now all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's magic.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The offensive line is one of the best lines in football.
The receivers can magically start to separate. Oh and by
the way the game slowed down for the rookie quarterback,
everybody should have had patience for in the beginning. I
think that that's the thing. I mean, you're talking about
sportsbooks that had this team at a ludicrous five and
a half number for the over runner on wins. Congratulations
everybody getting paid this weekend. After the Falcons BLOWOFUF, I like,
I think the thing to me is how good this
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team is.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Totally yeah, And you know, I think it's one of
the things, like they they have been very good on
defense from the start. They they got blown out one
week in Baltimore, and besides that, they've just been They've
been remarkably consistent and and and really dominant, even despite
the fact that they they haven't gone on a big
turnover bonanza like they did last year in the middle
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of the season. The thing with the offense that's so interesting,
Like I had a question someone someone had a question
for our mailbag this week about you know, sticking with
boon Nicks, their struggles early in the season and all
these young guys that struggled early on. I was I
was like, yeah, I mean that's the point. The point is, like,
look what the Rams did last year. They played a
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bunch of young guys. They weren't very good early in
the season, and they just were betting that their best
chance to be in it at the end was to
take talented young players who didn't have a lot of
experience let them grow through mistakes and bank on them
being a lot better in week twelve and then in
week sixteen and seventeen and eighteen than they were at
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the beginning of the year. And like, I think you're
seeing some of that with the Broncos, but they haven't
had a true outside of maybe bon Knicks, Like they
obviously don't have a Pukuinakua like the Rams had last year.
But they have guys that have learned roles, and they
have guys whom the coaching staff has figured out how
to effectively use. And now you're seeing Devon Beley sort of,
(09:54):
you know, settle into a role that fits him and
that he can really excel in. You're seeing them find
new ways to use Marvin Mims. You know, you're seeing
Audrick estime looking like even if it's not every single week,
like he can provide fresh, energetic, powerful legs down the
stretch of the season. Like you know, you're seeing Joan
Ellis settle into being a pretty solid rotational edge rusher
(10:18):
in the NFL as a rookie, which isn't all that common,
especially for like a Day two pick. You know, all
of these guys are sort of finding their stride and
it's sort of a plan coming to fruition, like Sean
Payton is notoriously you know, reticent to put a lot
to count on young players a lot, but you know,
with some exceptions, like they've stuck with it and some
(10:39):
of it's by necessity. But now you're seeing some of
the payoff of that, and it looks different than it
looked ten weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Talk about Parker Gabriel at Parker J. Gabriel on Twitter
of the Denver Post. As we as we, you know,
kind of do this and everyone's basking in the glow
of you know, what should have been at Kansas City?
What did happen with Atlanta coming into town? Let's do
a little sun our milk check here real quick, though,
as we look forward to next season, guys like Courtland, Sutton,
Garrett Bulls, DJ Chals money numbers that may not make
(11:08):
sense relative to still carrying a cap hit from Russ
and trying to get younger at some of these positions.
Of those three, how many do you expect to be
back any or all of them?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Oh man, that is a great question. I mean, like
just my gut reaction is zero, but I think I
think one is possible, and frankly, like I think two
is possible, I'm not sure it's likely, but like moving
on from Garrett Bowles is not the only way to
sort of like retool the offensive line, And so a
(11:39):
lot of that comes down to, you know, last year,
I think we all thought, hey, the defensive front is
really going to need a lot of attention, and I
thought Sean Payton and George Payton said an interesting thing.
They didn't like the draft class all that much, so
they signed Malcolm Roach in free agency, they traded for
John Franklin Myers. They did it that way pro scouting
rather than college scouting. And so it's a similar situation
(12:02):
where to unfold on the offensive line, you could just,
for example, resign Garry Boles and maybe move on from
somebody else, whether it's been Powers or maybe it's at
another position altogether, and sort of like retool rebalance your
books that way too. I don't think that's going to happen,
but I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility.
(12:22):
Like you heard Sean Payton last week saying, you know,
show me good offensive line metrics and I'll show you
a quarterback that doesn't take Sacks. That doesn't sound like
a guy who's about to pay twenty million dollars a
year to keep the left tackle. But you never know,
so Colon Sutton, maybe he's played really well the last
four weeks. DJ Jones is one of those where if
(12:43):
you don't think you can get better, I don't see
why you wouldn't spring him back on a short deal.
But it's a really it's shaping up to be a
good defensive line draft, and maybe they'll try to go
younger that way. And you know they're gonna have to
pay Zach Allen a lot of money at some point
if they want to keep him beyond next season.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Right, talk about Parker Gabriel here, Parker, let me let
me build on that. Then there if they do move
on from Garrett Bowles, how likely do you think the
scenario that you moved Mike mcglinchy back over to left
tackle where he played for a while and put Alex
Pelshowski at the right tackle. Al Poll looked pretty good
out there when he was filling in for McGlinchey.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's possible, And I know
people like I know, people jump right to you know,
Mike mcglinchey's sort of like issues in past protection over
his career, but like one way or another, Sean Payton
has talked so much about the effect that bo Nicks
has on their stack numbers that at some point that
(13:36):
is going to manifest itself and how they manage their
roster like it didn't this year. He's a rookie, you know,
but long term it's going to And if that's saying,
you know, we think we can get away with having
Michae McGlinchey, even though he's not the world's best pass
corrector on the on the left side, that's one way
to do it. If that's saying, hey, you know Frank
Crumb's rob we think after a full year readier ear,
(13:58):
you know, that might work. That's one way to think
about it. You know, Palcho just seems like a right tackle.
He's played some guards. But like, yeah, I mean, I
just think that some way, shape or form, at some point,
Sean Payton is going to put this theory about bo
Nix being maybe the number one ingredient in sac suppression
(14:20):
to the test.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing that as well. Raiders
Week Broncos flying out to take on the Raiders do
we see Are we projecting any hiccups here or is
this is as much of a cake walks as I
think it is.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, I don't I think they'll win. I just think,
like I thought, I don't know what you thought, Ben, Like,
I just thought that there was one of two ways
the Atlanta game can go. It right from the start,
and I thought, even you know, we don't see much
of practice, just thirty minutes a day or whatever, but
like they were, they were very clearly locked in all
week and from the start after the Kansas City game
is really impressive response to that watch. I think that'll continue.
(14:58):
I just sometimes will mention, like, you know, they haven't
actually won in Vegas yet, that's that'll end at some point.
I think it will be on Sunday. But it just
has been one of those places where bad performances and
weird stuff has happened. So if they come out and dominate,
you know, consider it another box checks on the you know,
Vanquishing Demons tour. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I love how the national media is all of a
sudden jumping on the Bow bandwagon. Even they're a little
bow curious. So we look forward to seeing them continue
to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Parker.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Always appreciate talking to you, buddy. Look forward to seeing
you this week. Ye take care, Parker Gabriel that Parker J.
Gabriel on Twitter. Never post
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