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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sick.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I got a bull game against BYU. Obviously we'll dive
deeper into thoughts there as well. But we're gonna head
out to our koa Common Spirit of Health hotline right
now and bring on David Plotty. He's the SID historian
emeritus and former CU Social Athletic Director.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
David.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
How's it going?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Long? Long words in that long title.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Huh hey, that means something. How are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
That's bad? Just watching the ESK and Awards two and
Travis Hunter is cleaning up.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Well, you know what, let's pick it out right there, Dave. Well,
we think about you, know you as being a historian.
Let's take it back into SeeU Buff's history a little.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
And the last time see you.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Buff actually won the Heisman. It was several years ago
and it was Rashaun Saloon And I.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Know that thirty years ago, two days ago.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Absolutely, I mean for you just kind of take the
listeners back just a little.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
What did it mean.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
For see you at that time for Shawn Salam to
take home the most coveted award in college football?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Well, you know, he's the only player to win it,
and i'd see you the only player to win it
in the state and the only player to win it
in the Mountain time zone, so we're kind of like
that flyover time zone. But at the time, you know,
Rashawn really didn't want to win it. He wanted to
win it, he didn't want to win and you know,
all the interviews he did leading up to it, he
didn't want to talk about himself. I said, talk about
your teammates, and Rashawn signed when he could talked about
(01:30):
his offensive line or Cordell Stewart or Michael Westbrook and
the bitther guys on offense. So to him, it wasn't
as big a deal as it was really to the
school and really to the region obviously, for the school
to finally win a Heisman Trophy. You know, Byron Wright
had finished second way back in the second year the
award back in nineteen thirty seven and made a few
other guys crop up and finish in the top ten
(01:51):
between the original year and thirty six when it started
and until Rare Shawn won it. But he finally have
a player break through and win it. And you know,
we were a little nervous that week. We weren't. We
were confident, but we weren't when when they invited six
players back to New York and they didn't usually invite
that many where we were like, uh, oh, how is
the vote going to be? And on Friday, once Johnny
(02:12):
Carter and Penn State won the Maxwell Award, We're like, uh,
what I was just going to shake down is he
is he gonna carry? Is there Shan's gonna get enough
votes from the northeast sector which we thought would go
to the one of the two Penn State players. Is
it going to happen for us or not? And then
as it turned out, Rashaun one going away.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
One thing to you know, obviously looking at you know,
mentioned awards there too.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
We just saw that Travis Hunter, he was named the
AP National Player of the Year.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
He's also you just took on the Chuck Bendrick Award.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Your thoughts on just how transcending he has been from
just coming up from where he has been to now
obviously elevating the SeeU bus. Now he's obviously going to
be next in line for a potential Heisman bid.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Here your thoughts on what you've seen from him as.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
A player, Well, well, you know he might whin that
blitnikoff or get that get to be announced tonight, so
he might get a trifecta hear going today, you know,
the generational Yeah, you know, Nick knows that before nineteen
sixty five it was the bulatoon era, but guys had
to play both ways. And I think the only players
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really that can match up to what he's done in
our history maybe be Iron White way back in nineteen
thirty seven. But you know, when the platoon era, and
Nick knows this, when the platoon shifted, you know, they
came off and didn't play the number of same number
of snaps. The next platoons would go in and play
offense and defense. So the number of snaps that Travis
has been playing is just off the charts, and not
(03:38):
only just by snaps played what he's been able to do,
you know, on offense and it's almost like he's I
liked it in some of his offensive catches. It's almost
like he's a member of circusy solet with some of
the acrobatic stuff he's been able to pull off. So,
you know, going into the NFL, I'm not sure. I
doubt he's going to play the same number of snaps professionally.
(03:58):
But even if the action on both times of the ball,
both sides of the ball, and if a protein doesn't
take advantage of this talent and the skill to do that,
they're crazy.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
While we're talking to Dave Plotty, historian sid emeritus and
former Associated Athletic Director at CEU, now we know that
the program had went through kind of a little of
a lull where they were not in the mainstream media.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
No one was really talking about See You.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Now because Prime comes in his first year, they jump
out the gate, they do well college game days here,
I mean, everything is going well for them, but then
they fall off the map. This year they are Bowl eligible.
They're going to a bowl for the first time in
some years. What does that mean for the program? But
more importantly, what does that mean for See You tradition
(04:49):
and everyone on a national stage being able to see
this great program again.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
We were in the bowl cycle for a very very
long time, almost playing a that bowl game annually from
nineteen eighty eight through in two thousand and five minus
I think just two different years in there. So we
were at perennial Bowl team and then since two thousand
and seven our last appearance in the Independence Bowl. We
were in the sixteen Alima Bowl and then again in
the twenty alimable and Nick san Antonio is in love
(05:16):
with the bus because we're going back again this year.
So to get back in the Bull cycle, you know
what that means. You get those extra practices in December
and it just kind of spills over to the next
season that you get those young guys with those extra
practices that have our city guys get to go out
or the upper class and the other go out with
the Bowl and get all the gifts in the rings
and assist a tradition that you want to get a
foot hold on. And hopefully now we can do that
(05:38):
again with what Deon's been able to accomplish in Boulder,
because there's nothing like watching Bowl week and you not
being involved in it. You know, it's like where's our team,
where's the bus? We want to see the bus play
during whole week and with you know, eighty two teams
going to the postseason and when you're left out of that,
you know there's an emptiness inside of you. And now
that hopefully we're back to be back in that cycle.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Again, and obviously, you know with a Heisman Award coming
up here, there's a lot of debate right now like
I look on social media, it's the most widely debated
about topic right now between Travis Hunter and obviously the
Boise States of Ashton Genty. What, in your opinion make
the case here for Travis Hunter? Because I understand like
the running back position, the amount of volume, the amount
of touches that he had, and obviously the production they
(06:19):
had at Bois State was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
But we see a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Minimizing the impact that Travis Hunter had on CU, not
only on offense but also on defense. He's the type
of player for that you could if you took him
away from CU, they would definitely fill it and maybe
to the extent that would be the same for Boise State,
but I feel like the impact would be bigger for Hunter.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
What is your case if you had to.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Make it, Well, you know, I've studied the Heisman for
years now, ever since coming back to when I brought
Darien Hagen there in nineteen eighty eight, and we knew
Hagen was gonna win it because back then, sophomore is
weren't going to win. Eventually down the road, sophomore didn't
even when Menzel won as a freshman. That's kind of
changed a little Eric Eney who was a solid candidate
in nineteen ninety and finished, but you know, it really
(07:01):
became award for the best player and one of the
best teams. So I always felt that we needed to
get to nine wins. That's and like Jayden Daniels won
the last year on LSU and they were they were
a nine win team. You know, the difference you eight
and nine wins and some voters' eyes as big because
now exactly, Travis Hunters definitely contributed to a lot of
those wins. You know, I don't know how many we
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would have won without him. I'm sure it's not it
wasn't going to be nine. Not to downplay what the
other players would do, but let's be serious here. I mean,
Travis hunter has made the difference in probably three, four,
maybe five wins for us. So once't you get that
into your resume, then you can look at the other
stuff he's done. You know, Rashwan one of the big
steps when Rashwan one that we were pushing at the time,
(07:44):
and you got to remember back then it was just
phone calls and mail. There's no email, there's no internet.
You had to get your word out by in person
interviews and a lot of works on the phone. Rashwan
at one point at seventy five percent of his yards
against frank teams, which away the other candidates. Now fast
forward to Travis with what he's done on offense and defense.
(08:05):
You know, it's incredible. Like I said, it's circle circus
piece delay with some of his acrobatic catches. But you know,
when you were looking at when we needed something done
on offense, it was shut order to Travis. You know,
when the big play needed on defense, it was Travis
making an interception or a pass broken up, or you
know the big force fumble that preserved the win against Taylor.
(08:25):
So you know, when you put that onto his resume
and we got the nine wins, I think that makes
a case for him over the other candidates.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
When you look at this whole Heisman whole race, it
seems as though it is predominantly about the quarterback position.
Obviously they're with the field being what it is now,
you got two guys in Genty and Travis not quarterbacks.
But there's another quarterback that I think that one could
make an argument for should should do with Sanders? Do
(08:53):
you think that the committee missed out on not inviting
Shador to be their front even if he doesn't win it.
Did they miss out by not inviting him based on.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
The season that he had, Well, they usually invite by
where the votes were coming into the previous Monday when
they do the invocation, so he probably wasn't running in
the top four. And you know they're voters. They didn't
want to vote for two players in the same team.
Very rare when you can do that when two players
make it into the top five finishing in the in
(09:25):
the final balloting. But what they missed out on was
the camaraderie that you do were and Travis have together,
and you know, you got that storyline that ESPN could
have used that night. So I would bet, you know,
maybe and when the rest of the votes came in,
maybe Tudor sneaks into the top four, but I'd be
surprised if he's at least not fifth in the final balloting.
(09:46):
But yeah, they probably missed an opportunity for having some
fun with at least of the interviews and with Chris
Faller m seeing it. You know, Chris Haller's above. He
worked for me as a student way back in the
eighties and he's done every ESPN Heights and Show when
they took over Announcy Nisman Trophy, which the first year
of ESPN did that was ninety four with Rashaun, so
(10:06):
that was also special to Chris. You know, it could
have another special moment to have Chris interviewing during the
hour show on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Now we'll see if Travis Hunter could take home some
more awards tonight, and obviously everyone is going to be
rooting for him to take home the Heisman here in
the state of Coloradogain. A lot of Broncos players also
advocating for it.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Too as well with their shirts.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
David Platty, we appreciate you so much for joining us
here tonight on Broncos Country Tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Oh, Glad and Nick will see you Sunday at the
big Indianapolis game.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Soe then it'll be a big one there.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Obviously, thanks to David there for jumping on and talking
with us. Niko, I wanted to talk to you here
about this Bowl game that's coming upright. The alimal Bull
interesting enough that when they were going through and they
were going through the selection process, I think the easy
thing on paper everyone was talking about it should be
cu versus Miami. It should be Shadur Sanders versus cam Ward. Now,
(10:56):
I don't know if cam Ward's gonna play and the
in terms of what they're at, but we know that
sh We know that all of the Buffs they're gonna
be playing. Travis Hunter is gonna be playing in this game.
How do you feel about that? But also how do
you also feel how to matchup against someone in your
own conference in a bowl game?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I don't know if I rock with it.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Well, first of all, I didn't like the whole idea
of the see Buffs playing someone in their own conference.
I thought the idea of the bowl game was for
us to see how other teams play teams outside of
their conference, because we always get into that debate which
conference is better than the other, And this would be
(11:34):
a great way to cap off the collegiate season.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But you know, we're not gonna get that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
We're not gonna get that.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
We're gonna get a game that I think most of
us were hoping for doing the regular season to see
who actually went to the Big Twelve championship. But now
you're giving us that same thing in Alamo Ball. Look,
I love watching bowl football. I'm gonna watch anyway, but
I think I'm gonna watch with a certain attitude because
(12:00):
this was something I wanted to see, you know, in
the Big twelve title game, not in a bowl matchup.
I wanted to see cam Ward against Shador because you
got to go back to the very beginning of the
season with those who were working out I believe in Florida,
and there was a lot of chirp and battle.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Remember that who's who and who's what.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I wanted to see that As a football fan, I
want to see those guys go head to head before
they get to the NFL, to really mark their territory
and plant.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Their flag and say, well, who is the.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Number one candidate going into twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, once again we're expecting committees to get things right.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
It typically never goes that way, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, obviously we'll see obviously for Travis Hunter set up
to you know, be you know, to win the Heisman Award.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Ask you this because it's been a topic, good discussion.
We had a chance to have pass her ten This
that says that his belief is that Travis is unique
enough he could play corner end receiver at the NFL level.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Where do you see it or are you.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Not going to put that because I know a lot
of people are kind of putting that limitation, like, well,
he can only play one or the other. I think
he can play both. But where do you see him
primarily playing. I think he will play both of and Philip.
Where you see him playing the most.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I think it might be wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
You know, I know that sounds ridiculous to some people,
but I mean, he does a great job on both
sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
But I think his ability to.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Attack the ball in the air track it well, going
up and contorting his body like as olay actor and
being able to haul and catch it. Because there were
several times this season that Chadors was throwing up it
was a chicken wing in the prayer, then all of
a sudden, twelve came down with it and everyone's looking
at each other like, how did he do that to me?
(13:46):
How do you put that type of skill on the
bench and say, well, you can only do one thing?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And I get it.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Some coaches are so superstitious, Well, he could get hurt
doing this.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He can get hurt.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Hell, you can get you a slip and fall on
the bar in the bathroom, right. But if you have
a guy who in whatever, I tripped on my dog, right,
one of those things that fell down the stairs. Those
type of things that can happen. But the idea is
putting the best players on the field. And if Travis
gives you that opportunity on both sides of the ball,
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then you allow him to do it. And now I'll
say this, now use kind of a basketball term. You
do have him on low management. If we're gonna use
him at wide receiver, we're gonna use him in certain
situations defensively, and we may bring a man on a
on a nickel package on the sub package, and we
either may put in at the nickel position or we
put him outside.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
But just sitting him, I mean on the bench.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
That's like having a Ferrari and you just go in
every day, you wax it and you look at it.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
You never drive it.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I want to drive it. I want to scratch on it.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
No, man, it's not fair.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
You want to you want to drive that thing. So
that's how I feel about Travis in that situation.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, I feel like if he plays defensively, I feel
like it'll be harder to be like, all right, there's
a tendency. But I do feel like if he's primarily
playing defense and you bring him in on offense, I
feel like, as a coordinator, I'm thinking, okay, well now
he's coming on offense. Now we can start to build
tendencies as to why they're doing it, what they're doing
when he comes in. So much of this also, I
(15:18):
think is a big part of where does.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
He end up.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Right, I think he's going to be a top five pick.
Now you look at some of the teams that needs
a quarterback. You look at the Raiders, they need a
quarterback very much. Cam wardershare Doer could be ending up
in Vegas. What about the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Do you feel like that might be a fit for
him for Travis Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I mean if it makes the name with Travis etn
you got Ingram at the tight end position, I mean it,
Kristen Kirk, it does open up the offense for Treva Longan.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
They're gonna probably have a new head coach.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Okay, once again, just like it takes a coach like
Prime to say, look, you can play both sides of
the ball, because some college coaches they don't want you
to do that. They want you to play just one position.
It all depends on who that head coach is and
that head coach's decision to saying, Okay, well, yes.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
We're going to allow you to do that. We're Lennikov
Award winner Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Ah congrit, he's cleaning the house right then.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
That says it.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It tells you what people think you, right. I like
the way he also carries himself off the field too.
This is a guy who he doesn't talk really all
like when he's on the field.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He's got that competitive fire, but he doesn't he doesn't talk.
He doesn't talk reckless, he doesn't do the social media
stuff before.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
And I'm a big fan of Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think he makes See You exponentially better and he's
a big part of elevating that program.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And it's gonna be very interesting to see what he
does here at the NFL level.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
One thing we're going to continue to talk about here
on Broccos Country and I will recap some of the
best first half moments of dever season. We're also going
to debate who should start a cornerback opposite of pats
er ten if Riley Moss is not able to go.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
It's also kinds of pointing that looks like the case.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
We'll get to that and much more here on Broncos
Country Night on KOA
Sick.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I got a bull game against BYU. Obviously we'll dive
deeper into thoughts there as well. But we're gonna head
out to our koa Common Spirit of Health hotline right
now and bring on David Plotty. He's the SID historian
emeritus and former CU Social Athletic Director.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
David.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
How's it going?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Long? Long words in that long title.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Huh hey, that means something. How are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
That's bad? Just watching the ESK and Awards two and
Travis Hunter is cleaning up.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Well, you know what, let's pick it out right there, Dave. Well,
we think about you, know you as being a historian.
Let's take it back into SeeU Buff's history a little.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
And the last time see you.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Buff actually won the Heisman. It was several years ago
and it was Rashaun Saloon And I.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Know that thirty years ago, two days ago.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Absolutely, I mean for you just kind of take the
listeners back just a little.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
What did it mean.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
For see you at that time for Shawn Salam to
take home the most coveted award in college football?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Well, you know, he's the only player to win it,
and i'd see you the only player to win it
in the state and the only player to win it
in the Mountain time zone, so we're kind of like
that flyover time zone. But at the time, you know,
Rashawn really didn't want to win it. He wanted to
win it, he didn't want to win and you know,
all the interviews he did leading up to it, he
didn't want to talk about himself. I said, talk about
your teammates, and Rashawn signed when he could talked about
(01:30):
his offensive line or Cordell Stewart or Michael Westbrook and
the bitther guys on offense. So to him, it wasn't
as big a deal as it was really to the
school and really to the region obviously, for the school
to finally win a Heisman Trophy. You know, Byron Wright
had finished second way back in the second year the
award back in nineteen thirty seven and made a few
other guys crop up and finish in the top ten
(01:51):
between the original year and thirty six when it started
and until Rare Shawn won it. But he finally have
a player break through and win it. And you know,
we were a little nervous that week. We weren't. We
were confident, but we weren't when when they invited six
players back to New York and they didn't usually invite
that many where we were like, uh, oh, how is
the vote going to be? And on Friday, once Johnny
(02:12):
Carter and Penn State won the Maxwell Award, We're like, uh,
what I was just going to shake down is he
is he gonna carry? Is there Shan's gonna get enough
votes from the northeast sector which we thought would go
to the one of the two Penn State players. Is
it going to happen for us or not? And then
as it turned out, Rashaun one going away.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
One thing to you know, obviously looking at you know,
mentioned awards there too.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
We just saw that Travis Hunter, he was named the
AP National Player of the Year.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
He's also you just took on the Chuck Bendrick Award.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Your thoughts on just how transcending he has been from
just coming up from where he has been to now
obviously elevating the SeeU bus. Now he's obviously going to
be next in line for a potential Heisman bid.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Here your thoughts on what you've seen from him as.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
A player, Well, well, you know he might whin that
blitnikoff or get that get to be announced tonight, so
he might get a trifecta hear going today, you know,
the generational Yeah, you know, Nick knows that before nineteen
sixty five it was the bulatoon era, but guys had
to play both ways. And I think the only players
(03:17):
really that can match up to what he's done in
our history maybe be Iron White way back in nineteen
thirty seven. But you know, when the platoon era, and
Nick knows this, when the platoon shifted, you know, they
came off and didn't play the number of same number
of snaps. The next platoons would go in and play
offense and defense. So the number of snaps that Travis
has been playing is just off the charts, and not
(03:38):
only just by snaps played what he's been able to do,
you know, on offense and it's almost like he's I
liked it in some of his offensive catches. It's almost
like he's a member of circusy solet with some of
the acrobatic stuff he's been able to pull off. So,
you know, going into the NFL, I'm not sure. I
doubt he's going to play the same number of snaps professionally.
(03:58):
But even if the action on both times of the ball,
both sides of the ball, and if a protein doesn't
take advantage of this talent and the skill to do that,
they're crazy.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
While we're talking to Dave Plotty, historian sid emeritus and
former Associated Athletic Director at CEU, now we know that
the program had went through kind of a little of
a lull where they were not in the mainstream media.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
No one was really talking about See You.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Now because Prime comes in his first year, they jump
out the gate, they do well college game days here,
I mean, everything is going well for them, but then
they fall off the map. This year they are Bowl eligible.
They're going to a bowl for the first time in
some years. What does that mean for the program? But
more importantly, what does that mean for See You tradition
(04:49):
and everyone on a national stage being able to see
this great program again.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
We were in the bowl cycle for a very very
long time, almost playing a that bowl game annually from
nineteen eighty eight through in two thousand and five minus
I think just two different years in there. So we
were at perennial Bowl team and then since two thousand
and seven our last appearance in the Independence Bowl. We
were in the sixteen Alima Bowl and then again in
the twenty alimable and Nick san Antonio is in love
(05:16):
with the bus because we're going back again this year.
So to get back in the Bull cycle, you know
what that means. You get those extra practices in December
and it just kind of spills over to the next
season that you get those young guys with those extra
practices that have our city guys get to go out
or the upper class and the other go out with
the Bowl and get all the gifts in the rings
and assist a tradition that you want to get a
foot hold on. And hopefully now we can do that
(05:38):
again with what Deon's been able to accomplish in Boulder,
because there's nothing like watching Bowl week and you not
being involved in it. You know, it's like where's our team,
where's the bus? We want to see the bus play
during whole week and with you know, eighty two teams
going to the postseason and when you're left out of that,
you know there's an emptiness inside of you. And now
that hopefully we're back to be back in that cycle.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Again, and obviously, you know with a Heisman Award coming
up here, there's a lot of debate right now like
I look on social media, it's the most widely debated
about topic right now between Travis Hunter and obviously the
Boise States of Ashton Genty. What, in your opinion make
the case here for Travis Hunter? Because I understand like
the running back position, the amount of volume, the amount
of touches that he had, and obviously the production they
(06:19):
had at Bois State was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
But we see a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Minimizing the impact that Travis Hunter had on CU, not
only on offense but also on defense. He's the type
of player for that you could if you took him
away from CU, they would definitely fill it and maybe
to the extent that would be the same for Boise State,
but I feel like the impact would be bigger for Hunter.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
What is your case if you had to.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Make it, Well, you know, I've studied the Heisman for
years now, ever since coming back to when I brought
Darien Hagen there in nineteen eighty eight, and we knew
Hagen was gonna win it because back then, sophomore is
weren't going to win. Eventually down the road, sophomore didn't
even when Menzel won as a freshman. That's kind of
changed a little Eric Eney who was a solid candidate
in nineteen ninety and finished, but you know, it really
(07:01):
became award for the best player and one of the
best teams. So I always felt that we needed to
get to nine wins. That's and like Jayden Daniels won
the last year on LSU and they were they were
a nine win team. You know, the difference you eight
and nine wins and some voters' eyes as big because
now exactly, Travis Hunters definitely contributed to a lot of
those wins. You know, I don't know how many we
(07:22):
would have won without him. I'm sure it's not it
wasn't going to be nine. Not to downplay what the
other players would do, but let's be serious here. I mean,
Travis hunter has made the difference in probably three, four,
maybe five wins for us. So once't you get that
into your resume, then you can look at the other
stuff he's done. You know, Rashwan one of the big
steps when Rashwan one that we were pushing at the time,
(07:44):
and you got to remember back then it was just
phone calls and mail. There's no email, there's no internet.
You had to get your word out by in person
interviews and a lot of works on the phone. Rashwan
at one point at seventy five percent of his yards
against frank teams, which away the other candidates. Now fast
forward to Travis with what he's done on offense and defense.
(08:05):
You know, it's incredible. Like I said, it's circle circus
piece delay with some of his acrobatic catches. But you know,
when you were looking at when we needed something done
on offense, it was shut order to Travis. You know,
when the big play needed on defense, it was Travis
making an interception or a pass broken up, or you
know the big force fumble that preserved the win against Taylor.
(08:25):
So you know, when you put that onto his resume
and we got the nine wins, I think that makes
a case for him over the other candidates.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
When you look at this whole Heisman whole race, it
seems as though it is predominantly about the quarterback position.
Obviously they're with the field being what it is now,
you got two guys in Genty and Travis not quarterbacks.
But there's another quarterback that I think that one could
make an argument for should should do with Sanders? Do
(08:53):
you think that the committee missed out on not inviting
Shador to be their front even if he doesn't win it.
Did they miss out by not inviting him based on.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
The season that he had, Well, they usually invite by
where the votes were coming into the previous Monday when
they do the invocation, so he probably wasn't running in
the top four. And you know they're voters. They didn't
want to vote for two players in the same team.
Very rare when you can do that when two players
make it into the top five finishing in the in
(09:25):
the final balloting. But what they missed out on was
the camaraderie that you do were and Travis have together,
and you know, you got that storyline that ESPN could
have used that night. So I would bet, you know,
maybe and when the rest of the votes came in,
maybe Tudor sneaks into the top four, but I'd be
surprised if he's at least not fifth in the final balloting.
(09:46):
But yeah, they probably missed an opportunity for having some
fun with at least of the interviews and with Chris
Faller m seeing it. You know, Chris Haller's above. He
worked for me as a student way back in the
eighties and he's done every ESPN Heights and Show when
they took over Announcy Nisman Trophy, which the first year
of ESPN did that was ninety four with Rashaun, so
(10:06):
that was also special to Chris. You know, it could
have another special moment to have Chris interviewing during the
hour show on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Now we'll see if Travis Hunter could take home some
more awards tonight, and obviously everyone is going to be
rooting for him to take home the Heisman here in
the state of Coloradogain. A lot of Broncos players also
advocating for it.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Too as well with their shirts.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
David Platty, we appreciate you so much for joining us
here tonight on Broncos Country Tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Oh, Glad and Nick will see you Sunday at the
big Indianapolis game.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Soe then it'll be a big one there.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Obviously, thanks to David there for jumping on and talking
with us. Niko, I wanted to talk to you here
about this Bowl game that's coming upright. The alimal Bull
interesting enough that when they were going through and they
were going through the selection process, I think the easy
thing on paper everyone was talking about it should be
cu versus Miami. It should be Shadur Sanders versus cam Ward. Now,
(10:56):
I don't know if cam Ward's gonna play and the
in terms of what they're at, but we know that
sh We know that all of the Buffs they're gonna
be playing. Travis Hunter is gonna be playing in this game.
How do you feel about that? But also how do
you also feel how to matchup against someone in your
own conference in a bowl game?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I don't know if I rock with it.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Well, first of all, I didn't like the whole idea
of the see Buffs playing someone in their own conference.
I thought the idea of the bowl game was for
us to see how other teams play teams outside of
their conference, because we always get into that debate which
conference is better than the other, And this would be
(11:34):
a great way to cap off the collegiate season.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But you know, we're not gonna get that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
We're not gonna get that.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
We're gonna get a game that I think most of
us were hoping for doing the regular season to see
who actually went to the Big Twelve championship. But now
you're giving us that same thing in Alamo Ball. Look,
I love watching bowl football. I'm gonna watch anyway, but
I think I'm gonna watch with a certain attitude because
(12:00):
this was something I wanted to see, you know, in
the Big twelve title game, not in a bowl matchup.
I wanted to see cam Ward against Shador because you
got to go back to the very beginning of the
season with those who were working out I believe in Florida,
and there was a lot of chirp and battle.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Remember that who's who and who's what.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I wanted to see that As a football fan, I
want to see those guys go head to head before
they get to the NFL, to really mark their territory
and plant.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Their flag and say, well, who is the.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Number one candidate going into twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, once again we're expecting committees to get things right.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
It typically never goes that way, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, obviously we'll see obviously for Travis Hunter set up
to you know, be you know, to win the Heisman Award.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Ask you this because it's been a topic, good discussion.
We had a chance to have pass her ten This
that says that his belief is that Travis is unique
enough he could play corner end receiver at the NFL level.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Where do you see it or are you.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Not going to put that because I know a lot
of people are kind of putting that limitation, like, well,
he can only play one or the other. I think
he can play both. But where do you see him
primarily playing. I think he will play both of and Philip.
Where you see him playing the most.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I think it might be wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
You know, I know that sounds ridiculous to some people,
but I mean, he does a great job on both
sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
But I think his ability to.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Attack the ball in the air track it well, going
up and contorting his body like as olay actor and
being able to haul and catch it. Because there were
several times this season that Chadors was throwing up it
was a chicken wing in the prayer, then all of
a sudden, twelve came down with it and everyone's looking
at each other like, how did he do that to me?
(13:46):
How do you put that type of skill on the
bench and say, well, you can only do one thing?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And I get it.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Some coaches are so superstitious, Well, he could get hurt
doing this.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He can get hurt.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Hell, you can get you a slip and fall on
the bar in the bathroom, right. But if you have
a guy who in whatever, I tripped on my dog, right,
one of those things that fell down the stairs. Those
type of things that can happen. But the idea is
putting the best players on the field. And if Travis
gives you that opportunity on both sides of the ball,
(14:17):
then you allow him to do it. And now I'll
say this, now use kind of a basketball term. You
do have him on low management. If we're gonna use
him at wide receiver, we're gonna use him in certain
situations defensively, and we may bring a man on a
on a nickel package on the sub package, and we
either may put in at the nickel position or we
put him outside.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
But just sitting him, I mean on the bench.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
That's like having a Ferrari and you just go in
every day, you wax it and you look at it.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
You never drive it.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I want to drive it. I want to scratch on it.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
No, man, it's not fair.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
You want to you want to drive that thing. So
that's how I feel about Travis in that situation.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, I feel like if he plays defensively, I feel
like it'll be harder to be like, all right, there's
a tendency. But I do feel like if he's primarily
playing defense and you bring him in on offense, I
feel like, as a coordinator, I'm thinking, okay, well now
he's coming on offense. Now we can start to build
tendencies as to why they're doing it, what they're doing
when he comes in. So much of this also, I
(15:18):
think is a big part of where does.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
He end up.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Right, I think he's going to be a top five pick.
Now you look at some of the teams that needs
a quarterback. You look at the Raiders, they need a
quarterback very much. Cam wardershare Doer could be ending up
in Vegas. What about the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Do you feel like that might be a fit for
him for Travis Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I mean if it makes the name with Travis etn
you got Ingram at the tight end position, I mean it,
Kristen Kirk, it does open up the offense for Treva Longan.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
They're gonna probably have a new head coach.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Okay, once again, just like it takes a coach like
Prime to say, look, you can play both sides of
the ball, because some college coaches they don't want you
to do that. They want you to play just one position.
It all depends on who that head coach is and
that head coach's decision to saying, Okay, well, yes.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
We're going to allow you to do that. We're Lennikov
Award winner Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Ah congrit, he's cleaning the house right then.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
That says it.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It tells you what people think you, right. I like
the way he also carries himself off the field too.
This is a guy who he doesn't talk really all
like when he's on the field.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He's got that competitive fire, but he doesn't he doesn't talk.
He doesn't talk reckless, he doesn't do the social media
stuff before.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
And I'm a big fan of Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think he makes See You exponentially better and he's
a big part of elevating that program.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And it's gonna be very interesting to see what he
does here at the NFL level.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
One thing we're going to continue to talk about here
on Broccos Country and I will recap some of the
best first half moments of dever season. We're also going
to debate who should start a cornerback opposite of pats
er ten if Riley Moss is not able to go.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
It's also kinds of pointing that looks like the case.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
We'll get to that and much more here on Broncos
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