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Speaker 1 (00:00):
By six sixty nine zero is the text line.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're going to ride into the Quai Common spirital hotline
though I and bring on our good buddy Nick cosmidor
Nick u. Still still reeling sort of from the from
this loss is this one feels sort of devastating in
a lot of ways. Broncos still have two bolts left
in the chamber and only need one to connect with
the target.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
But this was an opportunity that was honestly squandered.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, obviously, when you're up twenty one to ten, when
when that justin Herbert spiral hit Chris Abrams drain's hands
with you know, less than a minute to go in
this second quarter, you kind of felt like, wow.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
This is this is it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Man. They're gonna They're gonna quench the playoffs in the
place where two years ago Greg Penner watched this team
get just absolutely humiliated on national television. It's going to
be this great, you know, basically twenty four month arc
where they've they've quenched the playoff berth in the same spot.
But I think what got illustrated after that is just
you know, a team, a young team learning that you know,
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the finishing kick of trying to get to the playoffs.
You talk about all the time when you when in
sports like baseball and basketball, when you're trying to close
the series, Game seven is the is the most difficult
one to get. And that's kind of what it is
for them right now, like knowing what it takes, knowing
that they just have to get one win and they're
in the playoffs. Like that, the more the closer it gets,
the harder it is to grab. And I think that's
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just a lesson that they have to they have to earn.
They have to understand that that it's going to be
the hardest game is the one that they ultimately get
to get into the playoffs. And yeah, that was their chance.
The glass half full is that they got two more
that they have two more chances now, you know to
get that done.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Nick, what do you make of that play right before halftime?
Because Ben seems to think that coach Harbard is this
diabolical genie. Is that orchestrated that particular play to take
advantage of it because he used it a couple of
years or attempted it a couple of years ago with
the San Francisco forty nine ers. You do you look
at that particular play and you say, well, that is
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a play that determined the outcome of the game, or
do you just look at it as okay, well there
was kind of a special team blunder that led to
points right before halftime.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, I think there.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Was enough, you know, there was enough time, and of
course the Broncos come out after halftime, they get the
ball to start the third quarter, they convert a fourth
down on that drive and ultimately kick a field goal
of their own. So you're, you know, you kind of
recover from that, right You're you're back up eleven midway
through the third quarter, like you're feeling good about where
you are. So, like, you know, was that a huge
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momentum swing?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I think it's the reason that they ultimately lost the game. No,
and I and I think bigger than the free kick
was just the way that they manage those final forty
one seconds. You know. Sean Payton said, look, we started
that drive in a conservative way, and they did they
throw They throw a screen pass. In that situation, what
you're trying to do backed up kind of in your
own in inside your own twenty, You're just trying to
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see if if you can call a conservative play and
get it, you know, get it broken right, like break
the screen that gets ten to fifteen yards. Now, all
of a sudden, you're in a different kind of position.
You got a couple of timeouts. You can be a
little bit more aggressive. But the fact that they didn't
get those, they lost three yards on that play. You're
facing second down. Jim Harbaugh clearly has no interest in
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calling time out. He's relegated to take an eleven point
deficit in a half, and yet you push the issue
and then just kind of have a haired second downplay
where you throwing complete to a backpedaling running back. Like
they just really mismanaged that situation to even give them
the opportunity to have all the other shenanigans happen. So
you know when I talk about like learning and understanding,
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you know what it is to close. Like we know
Sean Payne's been in an these situations before, but new team,
and it's always incumbent upon the coach and these kind
of situations to like you can't miss man like that.
You got to be on top of it. And for
so much of that game, the first half of that game, man,
I thought it was good of a play calling sequence,
a play calling rhythm as he's had all year, and
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so it was unfortunate for him and the team to
kind of have it in that the half and the
way that it did.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, and that's exactly what I said. There was a
mismanagement there. You kneel the football, You kneel the football
after that screen played doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'm fine. You want to take a deep shot on
first down, I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
But when it doesn't work, or you lose three yards
and your opponent clearly is going to let the clock
run out, run it out for him. Take a two
score lead into the half where you're getting the ball
back when you.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Come back and continue to work. And I thought Sean.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Payton, I even tweeted out, you know, Peyton had the
Chargers in a blender in the first half right up
until that moment, and then all the years out of
the football at that point and it was just downhill
from there and they didn't recover from that. You know,
you go back and you look, Sean Payton was caught
on TV with the run it you know in cap
letters on the top of the play call sheet. He
didn't run the ball very much. They threw it forty times.
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Leading rusher had what nine carries was averaging five three
a carried. Javonte had four carrieses averaging six a carry.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
They just they didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Really run the ball, and they didn't run it when
it felt like when they should have. And then you
get down to the final five minutes and they punt
on fourth and five.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Now Nick Nick is in favor of that punch.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I'm I'm against it, but I can be I could
be swayed on it. Where do you come down on
that decision to punt with fourth and five with about
five minutes left?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, I'm against it because I just think that there's
more scenarios where you can still come up with, you know,
advantageous things happening, even if you don't get the ball
right like a if you don't get the if you
don't convert that fourth down, you still just need to
hold them to a field goal in order to that
then still have a chance to drive for a win.
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And you know, again you've heard Greg Olsen talk about this, right,
there's some wisdom almost sometimes in being down six versus
being down three, as crazy as that sounds, because then
when you're driving for the score. You know that you're
always going for it on fourth down, so you essentially
get an extra play when you're then when you're going
on your kind of you know, ultimate end of game drive,
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so you know you hold them to a field goal.
And yeah, I know that they didn't hold them to
a field goal at all when the bronc or when
the Charges got the ball from their own ten. But
but it's it's a completely different scenarios. Maybe they get
the ball at the fifty, they maybe are playing a
little bit more more conservative, whatever the case might be.
You know they're going to take over not in field
goal range anyway, They're still going to have to get
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a couple first downs to get into Dicker's range, and
then of course you get the actual play itself on
fourth down to try to get yourself going. Yeah, I
would have certainly gone for it there. I just thought
the you know, the reward outwighed the outweigh the risk
because of the time that you had in the way
that you could kind of still go down the field
after they potentially kick a field goal.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I'd say, Nick, both both of you and Ban a
cut from the same cloth. You are gamblers at at
your heart isn't.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But it's not a gambling thing.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm saying, play it safe.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
I just don't see the way that you guys see
it as far as playing it safe. But but I'll
just leave it, leave it there. I know I'm not
going to convince you of otherwise. Now, maybe with more conversation,
maybe I'd be able to change his mind. But Nick,
what do you make of that first that first half
with the Broncos were running the ball effectively. When you
moved to the second half, it's like it's none existed.
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It's like the run game was slapped on the side
of a milk cart.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I mean, what did you think about that?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Those decisions not to really get the running backs involved
in the second half, Well.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's just kind of weird, like how fickle the momentum
of like your offense can be, right, because when they
came out in the third quarter, their first play of
the third quarter was a seven yard run and then
a couple of plays later they had another sizeable run
that gave them a first down, so they kind of
started to get back to it. But there were two
key sequences to drive, two three and out drives that
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they had in the second half where they ran the
ball on first down and then it went for negative
one and so from there, when you have that kind
of inefficiency running the ball on first down, it puts
you in a bind automatically, and they didn't convert those
Those are two three and out drives where you know
that that that negative one yard on first down, like
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you just you can't, you can't do that, Like you
you have to have a plan coming into a series
of of what you're what you're look, what looks you're
gonna get, and how you're going to counter maybe a
look you don't expect, because again, two times to get
to get negative one yards to start a series on
a rush, and that doesn't even include the time where
they let you know that they let a rusher come
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free and sack uh sack the boone Nicks right after
Drew Drew Sanders had gone in and got the sack.
They get the ball back in the field immediately give
up the sack. So the first down inefficiency was a
real problem, whether it was running or or or some
of the pass protection issues. And so then all of
a sudden you're kind of like, you know, you're behind
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the eight ball. They they didn't after converting three of
their first three third down attempts, they were they were
two of their next nine, So they just weren't on
the field enough to kind of keep it going. I
don't necessarily think it was a conscious decision not to.
They were not efficient enough, and that's been the problem
all year.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They can't.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
They have slashes where it looks really good. That first drive,
you know, four different ball carriers, It looked as impressive
as anything they've done on the ground this season, and
then you turn around and it's just it's just not
happening after that. So that's one thing where again it's
been an issue that the consistency there.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Talking with Nick Cosbout of the Athletic Nick, I made
a quip earlier, and I want to ask how much
validity there might be to it, and that is that
Sean Payton might just be the John Fox of the past,
and that is that he can't get out of his
own way with what it is that he knows. Sean
Payton might be a little bit too aggressive, where John
Fox a little too conservative. Both these guys are good coaches,
the culture builders. They inherited messes and turned the mid
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as successful progress, but they weren't really the guy to
get you over the hump and get you there. Sean Payton,
of course did actually win a super Bowl, you know
down there, but only one super Bowl in what a
decade and a half with Drew Brees.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Is there any validity to that or might jump on
the gun?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Well, you know, I think it's it's a little bit early.
I mean just just in terms of like seeing where
this iteration of his kind of coaching chapter goes. I
really am curious to just see because of the fact
that they had such a stark turnaround of the roster
from year one to year two, and obviously, you know,
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the last few games in particular have have helped illustrate that.
As much as there's been some encouraging progress with with
what they're doing both in their own draft picks and
and free agency and stuff like that, there's a lot
of holes that they still have to continue to field,
a lot of the so called right guys that they
need to get in here in order to fully get
that get that over the hump. Because it's been a
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wholesale change in terms of like the culture and them
you know, knowing game to game what it is that
they need to do, but there have just been times
where it gets a little bit away from you know,
for all the preparation of how they want to attack
an execute games and how they want to adjust within
those games. You know that that continues to be a
moving target for them. But for me, I'm still kind
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of like book out in terms of the judgment of
whether like it'll ultimately take you know, a different hand
with this group after after he sets the foundation. I
just need to see it a little bit longer.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Well, Nick, let's kind of end on a positive note,
and we've seen some young players that step up. Chris
Abrams drain made a play, but also a guy we
haven't seen at some time due to injury. I mean,
Drew Sanders came out there and made a play. What
does that say about this team's damp moving forward, knowing
as though you having so many young guys contributed in
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their first year, Well.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I hope it's I hope it says that they can
figure out a way to have his freak athleticism go
back to inside linebacker, because look, they've developed nicely on
the edge group. But what you saw in a big
way in the game last night was that they're lacking
kind of that that freak athleticism that you need from
your inside linebacker.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
In this defense.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Like you know, whether it was not being able to
get back to their drops quick enough. Like Lad McConkie
last night, he had six catches for eighty seven yards.
Fifty one of those yards were after the catch, and
four of the five catches there was not a player
within six yards of him when he caught the ball.
And that's not obviously when you have those kind of breakdowns,
it's not on any one guy. But just going back
and watching the film, like these backers are not getting
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to the drop space that they need to, then they're
not covering the ground after catches the way that they
the way that they need to, Like they need an
upgrade in talent there in a pretty significant way. And
they again they've kind of tilt gone back and forth
in terms of what Drew Sanders is going to be.
But I think it'd be great for them if he
could be an edge because he has got some just
like kind of rocket fuel to him to where like
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if he can if he can kind of figure out
all the nuances of playing that spot, I think he
can give him a boost talking.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
When the cosmider of the Athletic nick the Broncos had
two bullets left in the chamber. You got to go
on the road to Cincinnati and a game that you're
going to get extra rest for thanks to some shenanigans
that you sort of pulled, messing them out of getting
that extra rest and putting yourself on the short week
with the Chargers. To begin with the Charger, the Bengals
rather look like a really good offensive football team and
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a really bad defensive football team, but it's in there
in their stadium.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And then you get Kansas City to end the season,
which you.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Know, if they lose at Houston, they was a Houston
game this week, they might be playing starters in that game.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
That's a pretty tough last two games.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
What is your confidence level that the Broncos can finish
this out get one of the two?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, if you look at it, if Kansas City loses
either of their next two games right Saturday against the
Texans or Christmas Day against the Steelers, then they will
have to play for the one seed in Week eighteen.
And that's assuming that the Bills, so I believe, have
the Patriots and another you know, well, below five hundred team.
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Let's just assume they kind of take care of that
business in games they're heavily favored. Then the Chiefs are
looking at if they lose one of these next two
against quality opponents, needing to win in Week eighteen. So
I'm kind of operating in the under the assumption that
that probably is a game that they're going to have
to play level the Broncos are in order to win
against the team that they've only beaten once in the
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last eighteen tries. You know, that's not a scenario that
you that you really love if that's what has to
be done with the Bengals. Yes, they have a dynamic offense.
Joe Burrow. You know, if if he was playing on
a team that had a winning record, you'd be getting
a lot of MVP talk. That's how good he's been.
That's how good Jamar Chase has been. But they're six
and eight for a reason. Even even in the game
against the Titans, they just do a lot of things
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that make you scratch your head. You know that they
turn the ball over a little bit too much. They
you know, they just can't they get in their.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Own way, similar in some ways to what the.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Broncos have been doing of late, but yeah, you're you're
going there, You're having to play in their house on
the East Coast, you know, on a Saturday system. Just
just some kind of some weirdness to that game. It's
it's not an easy path, Like, let's be honest, like
those are both going to be games that are that
are challenge now even if they lose too that there's
a there's a coin slip chance essentially that they can
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still make the playoffs at nine and eight. Like basically
what it boils down to is that if if the
Bengals lose to you know, the Browns or the Steelers,
then they would be out even if they beat Denver,
you know, the Dolphins, that they lose one of their
final three.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
So so if I if those two teams lose one
of their final three, the Broncos are essentially in. Now
the Colts can three way tie at the charters, and
the Ravens also lost to get to nine and eight,
that's not happening. So you could get in potentially if
you're nine and eight, But man, that that would be
the weirdest most kind of like talk about you know,
consolation type prices. If you lose your final three games
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and back into the playoffs at nine and eight, like you.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Even celebrate that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I don't know how that looks. So they would much
rather get it by getting their tenth wins. But it's
going to be hard.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That it is, Nick. We we certainly appreciate it. Look
forward to talking to you getting on the line.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
He absolutely take care, Nick Cosmiter for the athletic we
come back, we go through and pick the coming weekends games.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Hopefully roncles catch a break. You're getting close to the
holiday season. You guys got good Christmas plans lined up.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I do doing nothing, and I'm hoping that it's all
that you open.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Can it is everything I could wish for.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, I'm going to piggyback off of Grant and do
absolutely the same thing.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Well, gentlemen, I don't want to just copy your answers here,
but I think we all know I'm also going to
do nothing.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yes, I think you do that anyway. It doesn't really
have to be a holiday or any traditions, so as
far as I.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Guess, because I'd be like I get Chinese food and
go watch.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
A movie, because that's just what I do.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
On christ Why did you go watch a movie by yourself?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
What are you gonna see this year? I don't know yet.
I haven't decided. Have you seen Wicked?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I have not.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
That is on my list, on my maybe list I
have seen. I did see Red One that was so
surprisingly good.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Earlier I said, that's the best Christmas movie, original Christmas
movie I've seen in.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Years in a while. Yeah, it was. It was surprisingly good.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Wow, that's very interesting and Wicked.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Like I wasn't really into things of that nature, but
my wife we went to uh Broadway and saw it
in New York City, so.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Yeah, we saw it at what's the big one downtown
Duel Theater. Yea, Yeah, we didn't see the original Broadway cast,
but the movie is is really cool. Getting to see
all the all the design of the sets and a
lot of it was real.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
So I would recommend that. I still want to see
Gladiator too, though I have not seen that one.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That one also is potentially in the running, as was
the was that Craven the Hunter that's in the running
as well. That's the last of the Sony Spider Man
movies that they're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Also, I don't forget now move Fast is out too.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah that's a jam.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But uh yeah two, I'm gonna pass them a lot
of two and Sonic three, right, but uh, there is
there's a couple of these Faratu I think was one
that's out there.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
The Bob Dylan movie. I haven't decided. I do want
to see that Heretic. Also the the Hugh Grant movie.
You know, I'm talking about the horror movie. I haven't
seen pretty I heard great.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I So that's that's one that's in there. Uh as well,
I got there's a few that I'm kind of looking at.
So anyway, I haven't decided yet what I'm gonna do,
but I will do that. Get some Chinese food. And
that's that's just kind of my my tradition for uh myself.
What if that nikes Cosmitor from the Athletic for joining
us in the in the last segment.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
You missed any part of that? You gotta Broncos County.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Nights, That Complation podcast wherever each podcast apply it Tunes, Spotify,
the totally Free and Awesome My Heart Radio app a
line I stole from Ryan and he is apparently resentful about.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I heard.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I was like, yeah, this is what people do they
steal good stuff? It's a good line. And then I
stole something else. I stole his question for Rick during
the uh you know the question.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The last I can see why I gets bad about that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I just got.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I just got at that point on the art. I'm
just gonna keep poking the bear and see what happens.
But uh yeah, yeah. Anyway, without any further ado that,
let's get to some but some pick them the coming
week here we'll start off with the Houston Texans taking on.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
The Kansas City Chiefs. It's going to be tomorrow at
eleven a m.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
The Chief store three and a half point favorites in
this one over under started forty eight down to forty
one and a half on the money line.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
It looks like Chiefs re minus one eighty sixty five
percent of best seventy one percent of money on Houston,
plus three and a half.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
On the money line, seventy eight percent of best seventy
four percent of money on Kansas City. This is interesting
because Patty Malmes says that.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
That injury, a lot of people thought he wasn't gonna play.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Does he really have an injury?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, I don't know. Maybe he was just kind of
hamming it up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I will say this though, here a Broncos fan, you're
probably rooting for Kansas City here.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well, if you made sorry, you're ready for Houston here.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Oh okay, I was about to say, then, you know,
root for Kansas City here in Bronco's country.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
No, you're ready for Houston because you want to push
Kansas City down to that two seed and give yourself that.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, you know, I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
The Texans and this one because.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I mean with that store ankle me. You look at
the Texas.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
They have the ability with Will Anderson to really get
out to Patrick Mahomes and force him to try to
move around. And even though Hyla Lebrown is coming back,
I totally gave that they're going to try to find
ways to get involved. But I think it's just going
to be too much of Joe Mixon ball control offense
for the Texans.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I agree with you.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
I think the Texans win this game, and I think
Patrick Mahomes is actually hurt and I don't think you're
going to see him scramble on around too much.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It'd be interesting if Kansas City does win.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
If they can win that also puts them into the
sense they might rest people during so.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
There's a win lou.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Even if they win or lose here, there's still scenarios
for the Broncos that are favorable by the web.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Steelers taking on the Ravens. This will be the two
thirty games. Steelers are getting seven in this one.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Sixty two percent of sixty six percent of money on
Pittsburgh plus seven over under forty four and a half
seventy two percent of it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's only sixty four percent of money on the over.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
On the money line, eighty five percent of the tickets
are on the Ravens, but only.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Fifty one percent of the money sharps are.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
On Pittsburgh in this one.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Stamer's been playing pretty well. Ravens playing pretty well too.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Is home game, division game.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I want to go with the Steelers here. I'm gonna
go with the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
At RUSS No, I'm gonna go with the I'm gonna
go with the Raves.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Even though Lamar has struggled against this particular team in
the Pittsburgh Steelers, George Pickens hasn't been out.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I mean he hasn't been playing in a couple of games.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
And with that being said, I mean, the Steelers offense
have become really one dimensional, and that's running the ball.
And you take away that deep threat, you make it
easier for the defensive player play against you. And the
fact that but when you look at Zay Flowers a
couple of weeks ago, Zay Flyer was balling with so
many fantasy yards, but that seemed to have slowed down.
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But as long as you have Derek Henry, you can
hand the ball off to him and just pole through
guys like you're playing a game of tech Moo Bowl.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
You always have an opportunity. So I'm gonna go with
the Ravens on this one.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
I'm going with the Ravens too. I'm gonna quit agreeing
with you at some point here, Nix.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But well, as long as we're staying in that division,
let's go to the Browns and the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It's when it started off the Browns plus three and
a half. I thought the Browns plus nine.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Now bak seventy six percent of bets, eighty seven percent
of money on the Bengals here over UNDERD forty six
and a half sixty five percent bets sixty seve percent
of money in the over all the money line ninety
six percent of bets, ninety eight percent of money on Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I am all over Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
In this one.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeah, I'm going to go with Skyline Chilly again, so Grant, Yeah,
we are agreeing.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I'm gonna take the Bengals.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
But here's something that I would say keep in mind.
I mean, there's one quarterback that Miles Garrett has sacked
more times than any other quarterback in the NFL, and it.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Happens to be Joe Burn.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yes, so if they can't.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Protect him, he could cause some issues.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
But I still going to ride with Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, well, I'll agree with you on more time.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Miles Garrett today came out and said that he wants
to stay with the Cleveland Browns, but he needs to
see a plan this offseason for immediate return to winning
or he's going somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Sounds like they need a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Sounds like he's going somewhere else. Rams taking on the Jets.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
This started off Rams plus three, it's now Rams minus three,
seventy two percent of bets, seventy one percent of money
on LA and this one over unders started forty seven
and a half down to forty six and a half
sixty percent, about seventy two percent of money on the over,
on the money line, eighty four percent of bets, ninety
six percent of money on the Rams.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I am all in the Rams.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Even though it's a West Coast team traveling he's coast
for an early game.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
None of that really makes a difference because the Jets
hasn't haven't really put a solid game together. Every time
you think that they've just kind of figured it out,
they take two steps backwards. So I'm gonna have to
go with the Rams and Sean McVay on this one.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
I think I'm going with Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.
I don't know why, but maybe it's that Netflix documentary
that came out, or they're talking about caterpillars are already
or butterflies are always caterpillars and he's tripping balls.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I actually watched that. I've just seen clips of it
so far. But I'm going with the Jets.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
We just had a great thing going here.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Disagree with you now. They were in Synergy for a moment,
but no Eagles at Commanders. This line has stayed the same.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
The Eagles are laying three and a half seventy four
set of bets, eighty six percent of money on Philadelphia
in that went over under started forty five old and
moved to forty five and a half, seventy eight percent
of bets, but only fifty nine percent of money on
the over. On the money line, eighty five percent of
bets and ninety five percent of money on Philly. I
do like Philadelphia in this one in probably a close game, though, Yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Know, I like Philly in this one as well, even
though Jane Daniels is still performing as though he's going
to be the Rookie of the Year in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
And if you are a Broadcos fan and you want
that to somewhat change in Bow's favor, you're going to
root for the Eagles this week.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Yeah, And it seems like every year Cliff Kingsbury's offense,
people start to figure it out as the season goes along.
But I'm giving my Christmas presents to coach Pagano and
the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They're gonna steal this one against the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I dig it Arizona Cardinals taking on to Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
It's gonna start off.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Cardinals minus won down a four and a half minus
four and a half now sixty six percent of bet
six percent of money on the Cardinals here over under
forty five and a half out to forty seven now
sixty three percent of bets, but only.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Forty percent of money on the over.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Expecting a lower scoring this one with the Sharks ninety
percent of bets, ninety eight percent of money on the
money line on the Cardinals. I do like the Cardinals
on the road against the Panthers. Team is playing a
lot better lately. Yeah, the Panthers are playing a lot better, both.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Defensively and more importantly, they get a lot of play
from the young quarterback Bryce Young, but so many injuries
that seems to be kind of the theme all season
along with certain teams, and that injured bug has definitely
played to kill a lot of the Panthers. So I'm
going with the birds out there in the desert.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I think that the Cardinals are still playing for something.
Panthers got nothing to play for it but pride. That
can help sometimes, but it's not going to help them
this week.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Give me the Cardinals, I dig it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Titan's taken on the Colts this when is colts Land
three and a half sixty one percent of bets, fifty
six percent of money on Indy there over under forty
two and a half, seventy four percent of bets, sixty
one percent of money on the over, on the moneyline,
eighty seven percent of be's ninety seven percent of money
on The Colt Titans start.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Mason Rudolph in this one. I think the.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Colts bounce back and beat division rival Titans.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Colts on this one.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
I think there's still a little upset about a lot
of the Broncos to get that victory. After that Jonathan
Taylor kind of a mishapen then Will Levis has been
sent to the bench in favor of Mason Rudolph. Rudolph
has strong arm, can't really move around that much, but
Frus Butner should make rivy little work of that offensive line,
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and once again the Colts.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Get that victory.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I like the Colts in this one too. The Titans
are a mess. They're head coach Callahan came out and
just ripped a reporter for calling this team soft earlier
this week.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
But it's not going to do enough for them. They
they just had. They don't have enough pieces. Give me
the Coats Lions at the Bears.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Lions minus six and a half, eighty two percent of
best ninety one percent of money on the Lions in
this one on the over under forty seven and a half,
seventy two percent of best eighty one percent of money
in the over, ninety six percent of best ninety nine
percent of money on.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
The Lions on the money line.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I think we're all in the line here, yes, yes, okay,
moving right past that. The game everybody's talking about here,
the Giants and the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
And that's because somebody who started the season is not
in it. Quarterback for the New York Giants. It's Drew Locke,
Drew Somber. Yes, it's to Drew Somber to remember.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And oh, by the way, the Falcons are starting some
guy named Michael Pennix. The Falcons are getting eight and
a half in this one, fifty sixty five percent of
money on Atlanta there over under forty three and a half,
seventy seven percent of best seventy two percent of money
on the over on the money line, ninety six percent
of best ninety four percent of money on the fount.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
But I kind of.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Like Giants a little in this one.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
No, say you, guys, I can't go that far.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Even though you know we both all three of us
want Drew lot to have success, I just can't really
do it. Even though Pennies is going to get his
first start, because Penis is surrounded with more weapons than
Drew Locke is. So I gotta give the young bucking
opportunity to get that first victory and hopefully going to
atl stuff.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Talking about Kirk.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Cousin, Yeah, I love Michael PENNOCKX junior half since his
time at Washington and at Indiana, And you couldn't ask
for a better team for your first start than the
New York Giants this year, right the.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Fact, Oh my goodness, Vikings and the Seahawks. Vikings laying
three in this one, sixty eight percent of bets, but
only fifty three percent of money on the Vikings minus
three over under forty two, eighty one percent of bets,
eighty four percent of money on the over on the
money line, eighty nine percent of bets, ninety five percent
of money on the Vikings. I love the Vikings at
Seattle in this.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
One, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Because look at Brian Flores's defense I mean they blitzed
as much as Van Joseph does.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
And Gino has been banged up. I think last game
he kind of did something to his ankle who tweaked
it in some particular way.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
And anytime you do that when you and not a
mobile quarterback, he's gonna make things really difficult for you.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
But if you have.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
In Jigball on your fantasy team, I would say starting
because Gino is going to find him.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
In this game.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I like the Seahawks to bounce back in this one.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
I don't know why, but I think that twelfth Man
in Seattle after those Packers chants, I think they're going
to be in full force this week. It's going to
be loud for the Vikings offense on the road. I
like the Seahawks to win this game.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Rank going out on a limb here. Patriots at the Bills.
Wildest spread of the week is the Bills are laying
fourteen and a half eighty four percent of bets, eighty
three percent of money on Buffalo even lay in the
fourteen and a half over under, forty six and a
half seventy percent of bets, eighty one percent of money
on the over on the money line even at minus
one thousand, ninety seven percent of bets, ninety three percent.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Of money on Buffalo in this one. I do like
the Bills to winness at home.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
I like the Bills in this and just kind of,
you know, to bring a little Bronco love into it.
I mean, von Miller hasn't had a set since his
return from his suspension, so this would be great for
him as the Bills get prepared to make her push
at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
For Vaughn is kind of get his stride at the right.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
I think this is the year for the Buffalo Bills
and they're not going to drop one against the Patriots.
A divisional game against the lowly Patriots. Give me the
Bills by a billion.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
All right?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
You dig it?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
That Grant coming out strong.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
This game probably the most interesting game of the week
for me, at least in terms of I can't figure
this one out. Forty nine ers at Miami this one.
Depending on where you shop the line, you can get
plus one either way. So basically a pick him here
sixty three percent of bets, sixty seven percent of money
on the visiting Niners in this one. Over under started
at forty nine down to forty four and a half,
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seventy four percent of it's eighty percent of money on
the over. On the money line, fifty nine percent of
bets are on the Dolphins, sixty five percent of money
on the Niners. Sharps like the Niners on the road.
I kind of like Miami at home.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Yeah, I like Miami at home.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Let mean, San Francisco has been beat up at the
running back positions.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Seem like every time they put someone out there, cole
plays later they are hurt.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
And here's two coaches at Mike mc daniel's and Kyle
Sanahan who know each other very It was like left
hand knowing the right hand, and at.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Some point they got a clap. Has some fun. So
down in Miami, I know my father.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Is definitely gonna be watching this game, so I'm gonna
roll with the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I think the Dolphins win this.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
I think Tyreek Hill has a big game this weekend too.
I know he's been going back from questionable to healthy
all week, but I think he's gonna have a big game,
mostly because I need him in my fantasy football playoffs
semi final.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I okay, that's fair, and we go over what happened
in my fantasy football some on my phone.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
I don't know if we talked about it on air,
but I know you're gonna be hearing about it for
a long time.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I had like the sixth highest score in a single
game of the league all season and lost by seventy.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I got clown hammered by somebody who had Jared Golf
and Davante Adams and like every player I had a
great week. I had Josh Allen, Terry McClure, I had
a great week. The other person had the greatest week
I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Could it?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Is it safe to say that it was kind of
the best week in fantasy football.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's the best score that our league has ever seen,
the highest scorer league he has ever seen. I would
have won every other matchup in the week. I would
have beaten everybody by a double digits. Say I lost
by seventy. You met your match, I met my maker.
I think at that point, I think I have to
retire it. I gotta put on a red nose and
some some paint, not at a rainbow wig, and just
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be done with it.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Raiders at the scares me, Jags at the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
This when Raiders lay in one and a half, Jags
getting two and a half, a couple of books if
you really looking for it, seventy five percent of bet
seventy eight percent of money in the Jags on the road,
and that went over Under started forty five down to
forty in this one, seventy seven percent of bets, but
only fifty three percent of money on the over. Here
on the money line, fifty eight percent of bets, seventy
three percent of money on the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
As well as this may seem, this game was a
little difficult for me to peak.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
It was like the worst of the worse.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
So I'm gonna choose the best of the worst, and
I'm gonna go with Mac Jones and the Jags.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Mac Jones, I like the Jags too. I'm on the
Raiders in this one. Interesting Raider Raiders at Home, We
get the.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Bucks at the Cowboys Tampaay and three and a half,
seventy five percent of bets, eighty five percent of money
on the Bucks over Runners started forty six out for
forty eight and a half, fifty six percent of bets,
seventy two percent of money on the over, ninety one
percent of bets ninety six percent of money on the
Bucks on the money line, I love Tampa in this
one on Sunday Night.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I'm gonna go with Baker Mayfield left that they put
up that beatdown on the charges. I mean, there's things
is hard to turn out for the Bucks right now.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Yeah, they went through some tough injuries earlier this year
and they are back in for Forest.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Out of love the Bucks in this one.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I do Monday Night Football Saints at the Packers. Saints
getting fourteen in this one still not enough as seventy
nine percent of bets eighty three percent of money on
the Packers here over under forty two, seventy six percent
of bets eighty two percent of money on the over
ninety eight percent of bets eighty five percent of money
on the Packers on the money line. I do like
Green Bay, although I do like the Saints to cover.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Saints probably cover, but Rowland Spencer rawler out there known
as Oo. Derek Carr is dealing with a fraction hand.
I know again this is something you hate, but I'm
going to have to roll with love.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Love love, What is love? What is love?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I think the Packers roll in this one, And how
did this game not get flexed? That blows my mind.
But give me the Packers. All right, Broncos, Country to Night.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
We'll be back after this
By six sixty nine zero is the text line.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're going to ride into the Quai Common spirital hotline
though I and bring on our good buddy Nick cosmidor
Nick u. Still still reeling sort of from the from
this loss is this one feels sort of devastating in
a lot of ways. Broncos still have two bolts left
in the chamber and only need one to connect with
the target.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
But this was an opportunity that was honestly squandered.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, obviously, when you're up twenty one to ten, when
when that justin Herbert spiral hit Chris Abrams drain's hands
with you know, less than a minute to go in
this second quarter, you kind of felt like, wow.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
This is this is it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Man. They're gonna They're gonna quench the playoffs in the
place where two years ago Greg Penner watched this team
get just absolutely humiliated on national television. It's going to
be this great, you know, basically twenty four month arc
where they've they've quenched the playoff berth in the same spot.
But I think what got illustrated after that is just
you know, a team, a young team learning that you know,
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the finishing kick of trying to get to the playoffs.
You talk about all the time when you when in
sports like baseball and basketball, when you're trying to close
the series, Game seven is the is the most difficult
one to get. And that's kind of what it is
for them right now, like knowing what it takes, knowing
that they just have to get one win and they're
in the playoffs. Like that, the more the closer it gets,
the harder it is to grab. And I think that's
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just a lesson that they have to they have to earn.
They have to understand that that it's going to be
the hardest game is the one that they ultimately get
to get into the playoffs. And yeah, that was their chance.
The glass half full is that they got two more
that they have two more chances now, you know to
get that done.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Nick, what do you make of that play right before halftime?
Because Ben seems to think that coach Harbard is this
diabolical genie. Is that orchestrated that particular play to take
advantage of it because he used it a couple of
years or attempted it a couple of years ago with
the San Francisco forty nine ers. You do you look
at that particular play and you say, well, that is
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a play that determined the outcome of the game, or
do you just look at it as okay, well there
was kind of a special team blunder that led to
points right before halftime.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, I think there.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Was enough, you know, there was enough time, and of
course the Broncos come out after halftime, they get the
ball to start the third quarter, they convert a fourth
down on that drive and ultimately kick a field goal
of their own. So you're, you know, you kind of
recover from that, right You're you're back up eleven midway
through the third quarter, like you're feeling good about where
you are. So, like, you know, was that a huge
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momentum swing?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I think it's the reason that they ultimately lost the game. No,
and I and I think bigger than the free kick
was just the way that they manage those final forty
one seconds. You know. Sean Payton said, look, we started
that drive in a conservative way, and they did they
throw They throw a screen pass. In that situation, what
you're trying to do backed up kind of in your
own in inside your own twenty, You're just trying to
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see if if you can call a conservative play and
get it, you know, get it broken right, like break
the screen that gets ten to fifteen yards. Now, all
of a sudden, you're in a different kind of position.
You got a couple of timeouts. You can be a
little bit more aggressive. But the fact that they didn't
get those, they lost three yards on that play. You're
facing second down. Jim Harbaugh clearly has no interest in
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calling time out. He's relegated to take an eleven point
deficit in a half, and yet you push the issue
and then just kind of have a haired second downplay
where you throwing complete to a backpedaling running back. Like
they just really mismanaged that situation to even give them
the opportunity to have all the other shenanigans happen. So
you know when I talk about like learning and understanding,
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you know what it is to close. Like we know
Sean Payne's been in an these situations before, but new team,
and it's always incumbent upon the coach and these kind
of situations to like you can't miss man like that.
You got to be on top of it. And for
so much of that game, the first half of that game, man,
I thought it was good of a play calling sequence,
a play calling rhythm as he's had all year, and
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so it was unfortunate for him and the team to
kind of have it in that the half and the
way that it did.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, and that's exactly what I said. There was a
mismanagement there. You kneel the football, You kneel the football
after that screen played doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'm fine. You want to take a deep shot on
first down, I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
But when it doesn't work, or you lose three yards
and your opponent clearly is going to let the clock
run out, run it out for him. Take a two
score lead into the half where you're getting the ball
back when you.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Come back and continue to work. And I thought Sean.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Payton, I even tweeted out, you know, Peyton had the
Chargers in a blender in the first half right up
until that moment, and then all the years out of
the football at that point and it was just downhill
from there and they didn't recover from that. You know,
you go back and you look, Sean Payton was caught
on TV with the run it you know in cap
letters on the top of the play call sheet. He
didn't run the ball very much. They threw it forty times.
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Leading rusher had what nine carries was averaging five three
a carried. Javonte had four carrieses averaging six a carry.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
They just they didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Really run the ball, and they didn't run it when
it felt like when they should have. And then you
get down to the final five minutes and they punt
on fourth and five.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Now Nick Nick is in favor of that punch.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I'm I'm against it, but I can be I could
be swayed on it. Where do you come down on
that decision to punt with fourth and five with about
five minutes left?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, I'm against it because I just think that there's
more scenarios where you can still come up with, you know,
advantageous things happening, even if you don't get the ball
right like a if you don't get the if you
don't convert that fourth down, you still just need to
hold them to a field goal in order to that
then still have a chance to drive for a win.
(05:35):
And you know, again you've heard Greg Olsen talk about this, right,
there's some wisdom almost sometimes in being down six versus
being down three, as crazy as that sounds, because then
when you're driving for the score. You know that you're
always going for it on fourth down, so you essentially
get an extra play when you're then when you're going
on your kind of you know, ultimate end of game drive,
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so you know you hold them to a field goal.
And yeah, I know that they didn't hold them to
a field goal at all when the bronc or when
the Charges got the ball from their own ten. But
but it's it's a completely different scenarios. Maybe they get
the ball at the fifty, they maybe are playing a
little bit more more conservative, whatever the case might be.
You know they're going to take over not in field
goal range anyway, They're still going to have to get
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a couple first downs to get into Dicker's range, and
then of course you get the actual play itself on
fourth down to try to get yourself going. Yeah, I
would have certainly gone for it there. I just thought
the you know, the reward outwighed the outweigh the risk
because of the time that you had in the way
that you could kind of still go down the field
after they potentially kick a field goal.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I'd say, Nick, both both of you and Ban a
cut from the same cloth. You are gamblers at at
your heart isn't.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But it's not a gambling thing.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm saying, play it safe.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
I just don't see the way that you guys see
it as far as playing it safe. But but I'll
just leave it, leave it there. I know I'm not
going to convince you of otherwise. Now, maybe with more conversation,
maybe I'd be able to change his mind. But Nick,
what do you make of that first that first half
with the Broncos were running the ball effectively. When you
moved to the second half, it's like it's none existed.
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It's like the run game was slapped on the side
of a milk cart.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I mean, what did you think about that?
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Those decisions not to really get the running backs involved
in the second half, Well.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's just kind of weird, like how fickle the momentum
of like your offense can be, right, because when they
came out in the third quarter, their first play of
the third quarter was a seven yard run and then
a couple of plays later they had another sizeable run
that gave them a first down, so they kind of
started to get back to it. But there were two
key sequences to drive, two three and out drives that
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they had in the second half where they ran the
ball on first down and then it went for negative
one and so from there, when you have that kind
of inefficiency running the ball on first down, it puts
you in a bind automatically, and they didn't convert those
Those are two three and out drives where you know
that that that negative one yard on first down, like
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you just you can't, you can't do that, Like you
you have to have a plan coming into a series
of of what you're what you're look, what looks you're
gonna get, and how you're going to counter maybe a
look you don't expect, because again, two times to get
to get negative one yards to start a series on
a rush, and that doesn't even include the time where
they let you know that they let a rusher come
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free and sack uh sack the boone Nicks right after
Drew Drew Sanders had gone in and got the sack.
They get the ball back in the field immediately give
up the sack. So the first down inefficiency was a
real problem, whether it was running or or or some
of the pass protection issues. And so then all of
a sudden you're kind of like, you know, you're behind
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the eight ball. They they didn't after converting three of
their first three third down attempts, they were they were
two of their next nine, So they just weren't on
the field enough to kind of keep it going. I
don't necessarily think it was a conscious decision not to.
They were not efficient enough, and that's been the problem
all year.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They can't.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
They have slashes where it looks really good. That first drive,
you know, four different ball carriers, It looked as impressive
as anything they've done on the ground this season, and
then you turn around and it's just it's just not
happening after that. So that's one thing where again it's
been an issue that the consistency there.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Talking with Nick Cosbout of the Athletic Nick, I made
a quip earlier, and I want to ask how much
validity there might be to it, and that is that
Sean Payton might just be the John Fox of the past,
and that is that he can't get out of his
own way with what it is that he knows. Sean
Payton might be a little bit too aggressive, where John
Fox a little too conservative. Both these guys are good coaches,
the culture builders. They inherited messes and turned the mid
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as successful progress, but they weren't really the guy to
get you over the hump and get you there. Sean Payton,
of course did actually win a super Bowl, you know
down there, but only one super Bowl in what a
decade and a half with Drew Brees.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Is there any validity to that or might jump on
the gun?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Well, you know, I think it's it's a little bit early.
I mean just just in terms of like seeing where
this iteration of his kind of coaching chapter goes. I
really am curious to just see because of the fact
that they had such a stark turnaround of the roster
from year one to year two, and obviously, you know,
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the last few games in particular have have helped illustrate that.
As much as there's been some encouraging progress with with
what they're doing both in their own draft picks and
and free agency and stuff like that, there's a lot
of holes that they still have to continue to field,
a lot of the so called right guys that they
need to get in here in order to fully get
that get that over the hump. Because it's been a
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wholesale change in terms of like the culture and them
you know, knowing game to game what it is that
they need to do, but there have just been times
where it gets a little bit away from you know,
for all the preparation of how they want to attack
an execute games and how they want to adjust within
those games. You know that that continues to be a
moving target for them. But for me, I'm still kind
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of like book out in terms of the judgment of
whether like it'll ultimately take you know, a different hand
with this group after after he sets the foundation. I
just need to see it a little bit longer.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Well, Nick, let's kind of end on a positive note,
and we've seen some young players that step up. Chris
Abrams drain made a play, but also a guy we
haven't seen at some time due to injury. I mean,
Drew Sanders came out there and made a play. What
does that say about this team's damp moving forward, knowing
as though you having so many young guys contributed in
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their first year, Well.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I hope it's I hope it says that they can
figure out a way to have his freak athleticism go
back to inside linebacker, because look, they've developed nicely on
the edge group. But what you saw in a big
way in the game last night was that they're lacking
kind of that that freak athleticism that you need from
your inside linebacker.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
In this defense.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Like you know, whether it was not being able to
get back to their drops quick enough. Like Lad McConkie
last night, he had six catches for eighty seven yards.
Fifty one of those yards were after the catch, and
four of the five catches there was not a player
within six yards of him when he caught the ball.
And that's not obviously when you have those kind of breakdowns,
it's not on any one guy. But just going back
and watching the film, like these backers are not getting
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to the drop space that they need to, then they're
not covering the ground after catches the way that they
the way that they need to, Like they need an
upgrade in talent there in a pretty significant way. And
they again they've kind of tilt gone back and forth
in terms of what Drew Sanders is going to be.
But I think it'd be great for them if he
could be an edge because he has got some just
like kind of rocket fuel to him to where like
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if he can if he can kind of figure out
all the nuances of playing that spot, I think he
can give him a boost talking.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
When the cosmider of the Athletic nick the Broncos had
two bullets left in the chamber. You got to go
on the road to Cincinnati and a game that you're
going to get extra rest for thanks to some shenanigans
that you sort of pulled, messing them out of getting
that extra rest and putting yourself on the short week
with the Chargers. To begin with the Charger, the Bengals
rather look like a really good offensive football team and
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a really bad defensive football team, but it's in there
in their stadium.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And then you get Kansas City to end the season,
which you.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Know, if they lose at Houston, they was a Houston
game this week, they might be playing starters in that game.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
That's a pretty tough last two games.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
What is your confidence level that the Broncos can finish
this out get one of the two?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, if you look at it, if Kansas City loses
either of their next two games right Saturday against the
Texans or Christmas Day against the Steelers, then they will
have to play for the one seed in Week eighteen.
And that's assuming that the Bills, so I believe, have
the Patriots and another you know, well, below five hundred team.
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Let's just assume they kind of take care of that
business in games they're heavily favored. Then the Chiefs are
looking at if they lose one of these next two
against quality opponents, needing to win in Week eighteen. So
I'm kind of operating in the under the assumption that
that probably is a game that they're going to have
to play level the Broncos are in order to win
against the team that they've only beaten once in the
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last eighteen tries. You know, that's not a scenario that
you that you really love if that's what has to
be done with the Bengals. Yes, they have a dynamic offense.
Joe Burrow. You know, if if he was playing on
a team that had a winning record, you'd be getting
a lot of MVP talk. That's how good he's been.
That's how good Jamar Chase has been. But they're six
and eight for a reason. Even even in the game
against the Titans, they just do a lot of things
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that make you scratch your head. You know that they
turn the ball over a little bit too much. They
you know, they just can't they get in their.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Own way, similar in some ways to what the.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Broncos have been doing of late, but yeah, you're you're
going there, You're having to play in their house on
the East Coast, you know, on a Saturday system. Just
just some kind of some weirdness to that game. It's
it's not an easy path, Like, let's be honest, like
those are both going to be games that are that
are challenge now even if they lose too that there's
a there's a coin slip chance essentially that they can
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still make the playoffs at nine and eight. Like basically
what it boils down to is that if if the
Bengals lose to you know, the Browns or the Steelers,
then they would be out even if they beat Denver,
you know, the Dolphins, that they lose one of their
final three.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
So so if I if those two teams lose one
of their final three, the Broncos are essentially in. Now
the Colts can three way tie at the charters, and
the Ravens also lost to get to nine and eight,
that's not happening. So you could get in potentially if
you're nine and eight, But man, that that would be
the weirdest most kind of like talk about you know,
consolation type prices. If you lose your final three games
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and back into the playoffs at nine and eight, like you.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Even celebrate that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I don't know how that looks. So they would much
rather get it by getting their tenth wins. But it's
going to be hard.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That it is, Nick. We we certainly appreciate it. Look
forward to talking to you getting on the line.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
He absolutely take care, Nick Cosmiter for the athletic we
come back, we go through and pick the coming weekends games.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Hopefully roncles catch a break. You're getting close to the
holiday season. You guys got good Christmas plans lined up.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I do doing nothing, and I'm hoping that it's all
that you open.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Can it is everything I could wish for.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, I'm going to piggyback off of Grant and do
absolutely the same thing.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Well, gentlemen, I don't want to just copy your answers here,
but I think we all know I'm also going to
do nothing.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yes, I think you do that anyway. It doesn't really
have to be a holiday or any traditions, so as
far as I.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Guess, because I'd be like I get Chinese food and
go watch.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
A movie, because that's just what I do.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
On christ Why did you go watch a movie by yourself?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
What are you gonna see this year? I don't know yet.
I haven't decided. Have you seen Wicked?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I have not.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
That is on my list, on my maybe list I
have seen. I did see Red One that was so
surprisingly good.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Earlier I said, that's the best Christmas movie, original Christmas
movie I've seen in.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Years in a while. Yeah, it was. It was surprisingly good.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Wow, that's very interesting and Wicked.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Like I wasn't really into things of that nature, but
my wife we went to uh Broadway and saw it
in New York City, so.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Yeah, we saw it at what's the big one downtown
Duel Theater. Yea, Yeah, we didn't see the original Broadway cast,
but the movie is is really cool. Getting to see
all the all the design of the sets and a
lot of it was real.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
So I would recommend that. I still want to see
Gladiator too, though I have not seen that one.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
That one also is potentially in the running, as was
the was that Craven the Hunter that's in the running
as well. That's the last of the Sony Spider Man
movies that they're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Also, I don't forget now move Fast is out too.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah that's a jam.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But uh yeah two, I'm gonna pass them a lot
of two and Sonic three, right, but uh, there is
there's a couple of these Faratu I think was one
that's out there.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
The Bob Dylan movie. I haven't decided. I do want
to see that Heretic. Also the the Hugh Grant movie.
You know, I'm talking about the horror movie. I haven't
seen pretty I heard great.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I So that's that's one that's in there. Uh as well,
I got there's a few that I'm kind of looking at.
So anyway, I haven't decided yet what I'm gonna do,
but I will do that. Get some Chinese food. And
that's that's just kind of my my tradition for uh myself.
What if that nikes Cosmitor from the Athletic for joining
us in the in the last segment.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
You missed any part of that? You gotta Broncos County.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Nights, That Complation podcast wherever each podcast apply it Tunes, Spotify,
the totally Free and Awesome My Heart Radio app a
line I stole from Ryan and he is apparently resentful about.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I heard.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I was like, yeah, this is what people do they
steal good stuff? It's a good line. And then I
stole something else. I stole his question for Rick during
the uh you know the question.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The last I can see why I gets bad about that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I just got.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I just got at that point on the art. I'm
just gonna keep poking the bear and see what happens.
But uh yeah, yeah. Anyway, without any further ado that,
let's get to some but some pick them the coming
week here we'll start off with the Houston Texans taking on.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
The Kansas City Chiefs. It's going to be tomorrow at
eleven a m.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
The Chief store three and a half point favorites in
this one over under started forty eight down to forty
one and a half on the money line.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
It looks like Chiefs re minus one eighty sixty five
percent of best seventy one percent of money on Houston,
plus three and a half.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
On the money line, seventy eight percent of best seventy
four percent of money on Kansas City. This is interesting
because Patty Malmes says that.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
That injury, a lot of people thought he wasn't gonna play.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Does he really have an injury?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, I don't know. Maybe he was just kind of
hamming it up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I will say this though, here a Broncos fan, you're
probably rooting for Kansas City here.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well, if you made sorry, you're ready for Houston here.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Oh okay, I was about to say, then, you know,
root for Kansas City here in Bronco's country.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
No, you're ready for Houston because you want to push
Kansas City down to that two seed and give yourself that.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, you know, I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
The Texans and this one because.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I mean with that store ankle me. You look at
the Texas.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
They have the ability with Will Anderson to really get
out to Patrick Mahomes and force him to try to
move around. And even though Hyla Lebrown is coming back,
I totally gave that they're going to try to find
ways to get involved. But I think it's just going
to be too much of Joe Mixon ball control offense
for the Texans.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I agree with you.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
I think the Texans win this game, and I think
Patrick Mahomes is actually hurt and I don't think you're
going to see him scramble on around too much.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It'd be interesting if Kansas City does win.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
If they can win that also puts them into the
sense they might rest people during so.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
There's a win lou.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Even if they win or lose here, there's still scenarios
for the Broncos that are favorable by the web.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Steelers taking on the Ravens. This will be the two
thirty games. Steelers are getting seven in this one.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Sixty two percent of sixty six percent of money on
Pittsburgh plus seven over under forty four and a half
seventy two percent of it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's only sixty four percent of money on the over.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
On the money line, eighty five percent of the tickets
are on the Ravens, but only.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Fifty one percent of the money sharps are.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
On Pittsburgh in this one.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Stamer's been playing pretty well. Ravens playing pretty well too.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Is home game, division game.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I want to go with the Steelers here. I'm gonna
go with the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
At RUSS No, I'm gonna go with the I'm gonna
go with the Raves.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Even though Lamar has struggled against this particular team in
the Pittsburgh Steelers, George Pickens hasn't been out.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I mean he hasn't been playing in a couple of games.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
And with that being said, I mean, the Steelers offense
have become really one dimensional, and that's running the ball.
And you take away that deep threat, you make it
easier for the defensive player play against you. And the
fact that but when you look at Zay Flowers a
couple of weeks ago, Zay Flyer was balling with so
many fantasy yards, but that seemed to have slowed down.
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But as long as you have Derek Henry, you can
hand the ball off to him and just pole through
guys like you're playing a game of tech Moo Bowl.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
You always have an opportunity. So I'm gonna go with
the Ravens on this one.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
I'm going with the Ravens too. I'm gonna quit agreeing
with you at some point here, Nix.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But well, as long as we're staying in that division,
let's go to the Browns and the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It's when it started off the Browns plus three and
a half. I thought the Browns plus nine.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Now bak seventy six percent of bets, eighty seven percent
of money on the Bengals here over UNDERD forty six
and a half sixty five percent bets sixty seve percent
of money in the over all the money line ninety
six percent of bets, ninety eight percent of money on Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I am all over Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
In this one.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeah, I'm going to go with Skyline Chilly again, so Grant, Yeah,
we are agreeing.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I'm gonna take the Bengals.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
But here's something that I would say keep in mind.
I mean, there's one quarterback that Miles Garrett has sacked
more times than any other quarterback in the NFL, and it.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Happens to be Joe Burn.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yes, so if they can't.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Protect him, he could cause some issues.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
But I still going to ride with Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, well, I'll agree with you on more time.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Miles Garrett today came out and said that he wants
to stay with the Cleveland Browns, but he needs to
see a plan this offseason for immediate return to winning
or he's going somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Sounds like they need a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Sounds like he's going somewhere else. Rams taking on the Jets.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
This started off Rams plus three, it's now Rams minus three,
seventy two percent of bets, seventy one percent of money
on LA and this one over unders started forty seven
and a half down to forty six and a half
sixty percent, about seventy two percent of money on the over,
on the money line, eighty four percent of bets, ninety
six percent of money on the Rams.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I am all in the Rams.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Even though it's a West Coast team traveling he's coast
for an early game.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
None of that really makes a difference because the Jets
hasn't haven't really put a solid game together. Every time
you think that they've just kind of figured it out,
they take two steps backwards. So I'm gonna have to
go with the Rams and Sean McVay on this one.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
I think I'm going with Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.
I don't know why, but maybe it's that Netflix documentary
that came out, or they're talking about caterpillars are already
or butterflies are always caterpillars and he's tripping balls.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I actually watched that. I've just seen clips of it
so far. But I'm going with the Jets.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
We just had a great thing going here.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Disagree with you now. They were in Synergy for a moment,
but no Eagles at Commanders. This line has stayed the same.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
The Eagles are laying three and a half seventy four
set of bets, eighty six percent of money on Philadelphia
in that went over under started forty five old and
moved to forty five and a half, seventy eight percent
of bets, but only fifty nine percent of money on
the over. On the money line, eighty five percent of
bets and ninety five percent of money on Philly. I
do like Philadelphia in this one in probably a close game, though, Yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Know, I like Philly in this one as well, even
though Jane Daniels is still performing as though he's going
to be the Rookie of the Year in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
And if you are a Broadcos fan and you want
that to somewhat change in Bow's favor, you're going to
root for the Eagles this week.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Yeah, And it seems like every year Cliff Kingsbury's offense,
people start to figure it out as the season goes along.
But I'm giving my Christmas presents to coach Pagano and
the Commanders.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They're gonna steal this one against the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I dig it Arizona Cardinals taking on to Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
It's gonna start off.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Cardinals minus won down a four and a half minus
four and a half now sixty six percent of bet
six percent of money on the Cardinals here over under
forty five and a half out to forty seven now
sixty three percent of bets, but only.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Forty percent of money on the over.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Expecting a lower scoring this one with the Sharks ninety
percent of bets, ninety eight percent of money on the
money line on the Cardinals. I do like the Cardinals
on the road against the Panthers. Team is playing a
lot better lately. Yeah, the Panthers are playing a lot better, both.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Defensively and more importantly, they get a lot of play
from the young quarterback Bryce Young, but so many injuries
that seems to be kind of the theme all season
along with certain teams, and that injured bug has definitely
played to kill a lot of the Panthers. So I'm
going with the birds out there in the desert.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I think that the Cardinals are still playing for something.
Panthers got nothing to play for it but pride. That
can help sometimes, but it's not going to help them
this week.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Give me the Cardinals, I dig it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Titan's taken on the Colts this when is colts Land
three and a half sixty one percent of bets, fifty
six percent of money on Indy there over under forty
two and a half, seventy four percent of bets, sixty
one percent of money on the over, on the moneyline,
eighty seven percent of be's ninety seven percent of money
on The Colt Titans start.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Mason Rudolph in this one. I think the.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Colts bounce back and beat division rival Titans.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Colts on this one.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
I think there's still a little upset about a lot
of the Broncos to get that victory. After that Jonathan
Taylor kind of a mishapen then Will Levis has been
sent to the bench in favor of Mason Rudolph. Rudolph
has strong arm, can't really move around that much, but
Frus Butner should make rivy little work of that offensive line,
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and once again the Colts.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Get that victory.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I like the Colts in this one too. The Titans
are a mess. They're head coach Callahan came out and
just ripped a reporter for calling this team soft earlier
this week.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
But it's not going to do enough for them. They
they just had. They don't have enough pieces. Give me
the Coats Lions at the Bears.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Lions minus six and a half, eighty two percent of
best ninety one percent of money on the Lions in
this one on the over under forty seven and a half,
seventy two percent of best eighty one percent of money
in the over, ninety six percent of best ninety nine
percent of money on.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
The Lions on the money line.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I think we're all in the line here, yes, yes, okay,
moving right past that. The game everybody's talking about here,
the Giants and the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
And that's because somebody who started the season is not
in it. Quarterback for the New York Giants. It's Drew Locke,
Drew Somber. Yes, it's to Drew Somber to remember.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And oh, by the way, the Falcons are starting some
guy named Michael Pennix. The Falcons are getting eight and
a half in this one, fifty sixty five percent of
money on Atlanta there over under forty three and a half,
seventy seven percent of best seventy two percent of money
on the over on the money line, ninety six percent
of best ninety four percent of money on the fount.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
But I kind of.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Like Giants a little in this one.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
No, say you, guys, I can't go that far.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Even though you know we both all three of us
want Drew lot to have success, I just can't really
do it. Even though Pennies is going to get his
first start, because Penis is surrounded with more weapons than
Drew Locke is. So I gotta give the young bucking
opportunity to get that first victory and hopefully going to
atl stuff.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Talking about Kirk.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
Cousin, Yeah, I love Michael PENNOCKX junior half since his
time at Washington and at Indiana, And you couldn't ask
for a better team for your first start than the
New York Giants this year, right the.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Fact, Oh my goodness, Vikings and the Seahawks. Vikings laying
three in this one, sixty eight percent of bets, but
only fifty three percent of money on the Vikings minus
three over under forty two, eighty one percent of bets,
eighty four percent of money on the over on the
money line, eighty nine percent of bets, ninety five percent
of money on the Vikings. I love the Vikings at
Seattle in this.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
One, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Because look at Brian Flores's defense I mean they blitzed
as much as Van Joseph does.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
And Gino has been banged up. I think last game
he kind of did something to his ankle who tweaked
it in some particular way.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
And anytime you do that when you and not a
mobile quarterback, he's gonna make things really difficult for you.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
But if you have.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
In Jigball on your fantasy team, I would say starting
because Gino is going to find him.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
In this game.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I like the Seahawks to bounce back in this one.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
I don't know why, but I think that twelfth Man
in Seattle after those Packers chants, I think they're going
to be in full force this week. It's going to
be loud for the Vikings offense on the road. I
like the Seahawks to win this game.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Rank going out on a limb here. Patriots at the Bills.
Wildest spread of the week is the Bills are laying
fourteen and a half eighty four percent of bets, eighty
three percent of money on Buffalo even lay in the
fourteen and a half over under, forty six and a
half seventy percent of bets, eighty one percent of money
on the over on the money line even at minus
one thousand, ninety seven percent of bets, ninety three percent.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Of money on Buffalo in this one. I do like
the Bills to winness at home.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
I like the Bills in this and just kind of,
you know, to bring a little Bronco love into it.
I mean, von Miller hasn't had a set since his
return from his suspension, so this would be great for
him as the Bills get prepared to make her push
at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
For Vaughn is kind of get his stride at the right.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
I think this is the year for the Buffalo Bills
and they're not going to drop one against the Patriots.
A divisional game against the lowly Patriots. Give me the
Bills by a billion.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
All right?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
You dig it?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
That Grant coming out strong.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
This game probably the most interesting game of the week
for me, at least in terms of I can't figure
this one out. Forty nine ers at Miami this one.
Depending on where you shop the line, you can get
plus one either way. So basically a pick him here
sixty three percent of bets, sixty seven percent of money
on the visiting Niners in this one. Over under started
at forty nine down to forty four and a half,
(30:32):
seventy four percent of it's eighty percent of money on
the over. On the money line, fifty nine percent of
bets are on the Dolphins, sixty five percent of money
on the Niners. Sharps like the Niners on the road.
I kind of like Miami at home.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Yeah, I like Miami at home.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Let mean, San Francisco has been beat up at the
running back positions.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Seem like every time they put someone out there, cole
plays later they are hurt.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
And here's two coaches at Mike mc daniel's and Kyle
Sanahan who know each other very It was like left
hand knowing the right hand, and at.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Some point they got a clap. Has some fun. So
down in Miami, I know my father.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Is definitely gonna be watching this game, so I'm gonna
roll with the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I think the Dolphins win this.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
I think Tyreek Hill has a big game this weekend too.
I know he's been going back from questionable to healthy
all week, but I think he's gonna have a big game,
mostly because I need him in my fantasy football playoffs
semi final.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I okay, that's fair, and we go over what happened
in my fantasy football some on my phone.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
I don't know if we talked about it on air,
but I know you're gonna be hearing about it for
a long time.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I had like the sixth highest score in a single
game of the league all season and lost by seventy.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I got clown hammered by somebody who had Jared Golf
and Davante Adams and like every player I had a
great week. I had Josh Allen, Terry McClure, I had
a great week. The other person had the greatest week
I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Could it?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Is it safe to say that it was kind of
the best week in fantasy football.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's the best score that our league has ever seen,
the highest scorer league he has ever seen. I would
have won every other matchup in the week. I would
have beaten everybody by a double digits. Say I lost
by seventy. You met your match, I met my maker.
I think at that point, I think I have to
retire it. I gotta put on a red nose and
some some paint, not at a rainbow wig, and just
(32:17):
be done with it.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Raiders at the scares me, Jags at the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
This when Raiders lay in one and a half, Jags
getting two and a half, a couple of books if
you really looking for it, seventy five percent of bet
seventy eight percent of money in the Jags on the road,
and that went over Under started forty five down to
forty in this one, seventy seven percent of bets, but
only fifty three percent of money on the over. Here
on the money line, fifty eight percent of bets, seventy
three percent of money on the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
As well as this may seem, this game was a
little difficult for me to peak.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
It was like the worst of the worse.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
So I'm gonna choose the best of the worst, and
I'm gonna go with Mac Jones and the Jags.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Mac Jones, I like the Jags too. I'm on the
Raiders in this one. Interesting Raider Raiders at Home, We
get the.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Bucks at the Cowboys Tampaay and three and a half,
seventy five percent of bets, eighty five percent of money
on the Bucks over Runners started forty six out for
forty eight and a half, fifty six percent of bets,
seventy two percent of money on the over, ninety one
percent of bets ninety six percent of money on the
Bucks on the money line, I love Tampa in this
one on Sunday Night.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I'm gonna go with Baker Mayfield left that they put
up that beatdown on the charges. I mean, there's things
is hard to turn out for the Bucks right now.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Yeah, they went through some tough injuries earlier this year
and they are back in for Forest.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Out of love the Bucks in this one.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I do Monday Night Football Saints at the Packers. Saints
getting fourteen in this one still not enough as seventy
nine percent of bets eighty three percent of money on
the Packers here over under forty two, seventy six percent
of bets eighty two percent of money on the over
ninety eight percent of bets eighty five percent of money
on the Packers on the money line. I do like
Green Bay, although I do like the Saints to cover.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Saints probably cover, but Rowland Spencer rawler out there known
as Oo. Derek Carr is dealing with a fraction hand.
I know again this is something you hate, but I'm
going to have to roll with love.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Love love, What is love? What is love?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I think the Packers roll in this one, And how
did this game not get flexed? That blows my mind.
But give me the Packers. All right, Broncos, Country to Night.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
We'll be back after this
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