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to get involved in conversation. I had a couple of
texts come in here. One says I remember many previous
Chiefs games. I thought, oh boy, this would be a
shootout and ended up being a low scoring game. True,
but the Chiefs have a defense. In fact, their defense
might be carrying their team too right now, even though.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
They have Patrick Mahomes. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I think that's kind of been the case for Kansas
City over.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
The past to three seasons.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And this is the thing that gives them so much
confidence is that they notice, though they don't really have
to win in ways that they won in year's past,
winning with your defense. I know usually that's kind of
reserved been for Super Bowl and the playoffs, but it's
kind of been some of a motto for Spagnola and
the Chiefs for a while, and for me as a
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former defensive player, the mentality has always been the same.
They don't score, obviously, they can't win, and so much
in today's game, we dismiss so many of the positions
because everyone lives to prop up one position, one position only,
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and that's the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, speaking of the quarterback, how important is this Rookie
of the Year chase for the Denver Broncos. His Boni's
out of it at this point thanks to a cold snap,
and yet Daniels doing what he did to Philly is
just something.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That even matters in the end, Yes and no, I
mean it matters to your point for the Denver Broncos
and being able to say, well, after all of these
years of and trusting other people's quarterbacks to lead.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Your team, you've now been.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Able to develop your own quarterback and that quarterback is
going to secure promise for the Broncos for a long
period of time. The reason why I say that, if
you go back and look over Broncos history of the
past twenty twenty two eye years, three of those quarterbacks
that have taking the Broncos to the playoffs have not
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been their own players, John Oway, Jake Plumber, Hayden Manning.
The only guy who won the playoff game who was
drafted by the Broncos is de bow So. Having bo
perform well enough to have Rookie of the Year honors,
it says a lot about him as an individual, the organization.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And the coaching staff and how they have.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Helped groom him to get to him to this point offensively,
and they would be a hell of an honor to
say because Sean Payton has never done it. Yeah, he's
never done it with a rookie quarterback. You look at
the Broncos haven't done it. Sean Payton has that.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
This is why it's so important.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Now to answer another question you asked about, is it
a possibility that both can win this award?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It would be great, but it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You just have too much, too much going on with
some of these other players, and Brock Bauers have set
records for a tight end, let alone a rookie tight end.
And then you've got Jayden Daniels, who is long is
just I mean, he's carrying the team, all right, So
it's not a defense carry Washington. It's him carrying that team, dude.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
The one thing about Jane Daniels and real recognized, real
so Broncos countryt you get upset with me. Hey, to
each his own. But it's all about moments, right, It's
all about those moments when you are in a situation
can you come through?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And sadly enough, I mean Jane Daniels.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Has had more of those memorable moments than both Knicks.
And when I say that, it's not a slight to
both Knicks. I mean, you know how I feel about
both Knicks. But we're talking about the Rookie of the Year.
Ward and oh, by the way, don't forget Brian Thomas,
the rookie out of LSU who plays with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
This kid has more than a thousand yards receiving.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
He leaves all rookie wide receivers in receiving.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And once again, keep that in mind because there's no
Trevor Lawrence. Right, there's no Trevor Lawrence as his quarterback,
but he's still able to produce numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But Jane Daniels is different.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And before I came into the show, obviously I'm texting
a couple of coaches I know, asking them their own
personal opinions of Jane Day because I don't want anyone
to perceive that, well, this is just one side a viewpoint.
And someone said that he's a dog. Someone else said
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he's a mofo. Okay, right, just tell you how coaches.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Around the league view Jay and Dames.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And once again, the kid is spectacular. He's doing some
great things. I mean, what do you think do you
think what the Broncos playing on Saturday? And there I say,
you know, it's not Monday night, it's not Sunday night,
but it's still a primetime game.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Do you think that both.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Can electrify the people in Cincinnati and keep his name humming.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
In that conversation, well, I.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Mean, you're up against the right defense for it, and
you're probably game script is probably going to.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Be a shootout.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So if you can be successful just probably drives you
back into the conversation at least a little bit. But
right now, the enduring memory for everybody is what jayde
Daniels just did against ostensibly one of the two best
teams in the NFC.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
All right, so here's my second question for you missed.
All Right, with that being said, known as.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Though the Broncos are still trying to push for the playoffs,
they that's really need this game. This game could be
a shootout. We saw in the game agains the charges.
The Broncos start off running the ball. Second half it
disappeared because of the Rookie of the Year award conversations.
Do you see a situation where we see the abandonment
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of the run game again and a heavy emphasis more
so than ever the season on the passing game.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
To get BO back in that conversation, I hope not.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I hope Sean Payton gets that out of his head
and recognizes that the key to doing this is scheming
up and getting the run game going.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It'll make bo that much better.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But the problem is, you don't get credited for being
an offensive genius when you lead league in rushing. You know,
you're credited for being offensive genius when you're running backs.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Doing all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Otherwise we'd be talking about what a great offensive cording
to Greg Roman is over the years.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
So you're saying, yes, you do believe that the volume
of pay is going to supersede the running game.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I believe that Sean Payton I mean Sean Payton offenses
have always been that way.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
He had his best success when he had more balance,
and when they did run the ball the Super Bowl year,
they were one of the top rushing teams.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
In the league.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's how you have that success. But I mean, being honest,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
See he passes to keep passing, and he was passing and.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
To his detribuit there which again at the end of
the first half, when he's throwing the ball for no reason,
you are eighty five yards away from the end zone
of forty seconds eighty excuse me, eighty three yard whate
it was you. Eighty five was seventeen seconds. There was
no reason to be running the ball none. And I'm
tired of people with go for the throat. The only
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throat you're stomping on is your own. At that point,
you're cutting off your own air, kneel the football. The
points matter, the wins matter. The rest of this stuff
doesn't matter. So does that theory or would that theory
make you a little nervous about the game on Saturday.
I'm already nervous about that game. I don't think we
have the offense to keep up even when he's dialed in,
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And I'm worried that he's more concerned about proving everybody
right about drafting bow Knicks than he is about winning
that football game.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But that may be important to him because he's probably thinking, Okay,
if I can kill two births in one stone, keep
bowling that conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But you get you get the wins, the legacy stays alive.
You get the wins, and the rest of it doesn't matter.
You've got already made defense. It's got some cracks right
now because I got some injuries, but you got already
made defense. You got those far get the wins, get
in the playoffs, do something nobody has ever done before,
winn a Super Bowl to different teams. The Offensive Rookie
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of the Year isn't even an award Sean Payton gets.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
But while it might not make a difference to you
of some other people, that.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
May be something that is a big deal for for
for Sean Payton because once again it's it's hies in
the legas see, because everything that has been said about
what Sean could not do outside.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Of New Orleans with Drew Brees, He's now able to
prove that, yes, I could get it done. I did
it with.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
An organization or historically have had prominent quarterbacks that have
been household names. Now Sean Payton's probably.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Thinking, I get a chance to do to do that
here in Denver.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Denver, once again we could say, well, I got to
think about Jay Carlin never went to a playoff game
here in the Broncos uniform. Right, so now he would
be able to say he did something that even Mike
Seneha didn't do.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I mean, cool, you can have that, but right now
you're you're it's to the detriment of your team. You
could do something at nobody in the NFL has ever done.
Forget somebody on the Broncos and win a Super Bowl
with two different teams. Concentrate on that, concentrate on winning games,
create winning culture, creates winning habits. You've shifted the culture
from where was with Nate Hackett. But that's the lowest
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bar on earth to clear.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
All you had to do.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Is not have the offensive line fighting a backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
On the sideline, and you fly over that bar.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
All you have to do is get the plays in
on time, and you fly over that bar.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
The idea, Ben, is that you the way that you
win in the NFL is you went through the quarterback.
Because we've heard this BS saying before and I don't
like it. Well, if you don't have if you if
you have two quarterbacks, then you don't have right And
in some cases you may.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Need that because your starter could go down.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
If you don't have a guy in waiting, you're freaking
trouble and you don't find.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Out until you in that situation.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So the whole idea, if you have two quarterbacks, you
don't have none.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
To me, this is me. I just find it. I
find it. BS.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well, yeah, and I'm not talking about two quarterbacks, you
know in this particular situation. For me, I'm just my
question is are we trying to win certain things at
the expense of winning?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, but the idea wasn't.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Again, the reason I said that is that how many
times we've heard you win games through the quarter You
win games with your quarterback is able.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You win games if your quarterback is capable of getting
you out of third down. That's where you win games. Right,
You need a quarterback to be able to do that.
If you can consistently have a quarterback that can throw
you out of third down situations, you can win.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, how about this for it? Try this op for
an idea.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
How about not being in those third and long situations.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, it makes it a lot easier for a quarterback
to be able to throw you out of those third
down situations. And if you're in third and three, then
you get in the third and three situations running the football.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
See, we solved it. We just solved it. We s
we just solved it. Right there, they did not so
that backg We just solved it. So we'll take We'll
take half the salary. Coach split it. Betwe us I'll
take table scraps from listen.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I'm hoping that there's some semblance of balance against the
Bengals out of it because the deal constantly and pass
pass pass mode.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Then you feed into what their their defense is bad,
and you feed into what the one thing they can
do get after the passer.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
You don't want to do that. Yeah, I just you know,
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I'm my frustration level over the last couple of games,
and it really it dates back to, you know, right
after the Kansas City game, you know, right in that ruin,
there's been frustration. We've been getting away with stuff, whether
it was Jonathan Taylor dropping a ball, or having the
defense pick six a couple of times a game, or
you know whatever, we've been getting away with it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, you're up.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Against the part of the season where you can't count
on luck and get away with it, and you're up
against teams where you can't count on getting away with it.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It's different.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Once the Cleveland Browns or the Indianapolis Coal to the
Las Vegas Raiders, you can get away with it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You can't get away with bad process against good teams.
They'll make you pay for it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
The Chargers may us pay for it and you know,
I'm concerned about this game.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I hope everybody gets to spike the football on me
on Saturday and be like Ben was worried for nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I hope we blow them out. Do you ever concern that? Okay,
after the bye week.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Everyone thought the Broncos is gonna come back and it
would be much better offensively, Yes, And I thought you
are they were not.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yes, That's another thing. I was like, I thought you
were gonna you took that time off.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I thought you were going to come back, rededicate to
the run, build off that and especially against the Cults,
who are thirty first in the league against the run.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And it just didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And two weeks in a row, I've watched bad process
get bailed out. I watched it get bailed out by
the pick sixers, and I watched it get bailed out
by a running back dropping a ball before the goal line.
And then you get to the Charger game and you
can't count on that.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
You know, they didn't do that. They don't make mistakes.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Okay, Okay, after the charge of game on Thursday, let's
just say it's not like a real buye but there's still.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Is mini by some mini bi you get an extra
day or two because they were not even to do
it coming off to Buy.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I don't have any more confidence now with the extra
rest day.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
No. I mean, I'm glad that we're going to get
some players back.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
We can get Riley back, you know, and there some
of these guys will be a little bit more healed up,
and that'll be good. But I don't have any more
confidence in that. I've seen Sean Payton off of bye
weeks for what two seasons now, I'm not impressed.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I'm Shania Twain, Okay, I pressed.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
So there's nothing in your thought process to say, Okay,
well they didn't do that well off to Buy against
the Chargers. Could there be a possibility that they they've
learned the errors of their ways to now have changed
and see an opportunity and take advantage of the opportunity.
But two games left, win this game, get into the playoffs,
and end all the narratives and the conversation to Dalag, yeah, at.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
That point you do, you turn it back around and
all this conversation goes away. But I mean, winning with
bad process was eventually going to run out and that's
what happened in the Chargers game.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It was bad process at the end of the half.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And I know you guys think it's not that big
a deal, but that three points was the difference. They
don't get that three points. The Broncos are driving at
the end of the game with a chance to tie
or win, not trying to get ten points, and they're
already punching their ticket if they get that goal. If
they get in there do that, they've already punched their ticket.
That's the difference. They had bad process against the Raiders
to close that game up, but they got lucky. They
got bailed out because Gardner minsch you got injured and
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then desman Ritter turned it over, so I you know it.
For me, this is one of those things where like
this is and it was weird watching coach Peyton.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Double down on it.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It is it is pressure trying to you know, I've
seen all this stuff and no, it's not.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It was a bad process.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Like, just admit it was bad process, and you've got
to learn from it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And move on. The mistakes that were are learning opportunities.
That's where we learn, not from the.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Victories from the shortcom the failures from the times that
we didn't make it, and in this particular case, they
didn't get it because of a bad decision.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
We got to hit a break. We'll be back up
to this, Nick. We got one more segment before Christmas.
Break here. What do you wanna get into here?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Well, I want to this is not taxicab confessions, but
it could be. But well, well we need to tax
the cab uber confessions confessions.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
So we turn it around. Let me let me turn
them the light down low for this one.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Get it.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We're gonna set there to get some some moods lighting
in here.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
There we go, all right, maybe we get some some
berry white going in the background. I think I got
a couple of bottles of panot in the car. We
can uh, we can just set this thing off right now.
We're not going that far. I was just going with wait, wait, wait,
I just turned the light down low. There's no need
for barry, right, but isn't. I'll tell you here's my confession.
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So little Christmas story really quickly.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So as a kid, we always try to anticipate what
gets my my mom's going.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
To purchase for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And I was a big you know, into Transformers and
g I Joe's just transports.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Did you go bots too or was it knockoff?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
No? No, no, no, they can't do go bots. Man,
you don't remember Goot, Yes, I do remember go By.
You go outside with the go bot whenever all the
other kids.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Transform beat there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But my mom used to try to populd buy things
and hide them. And I spent a lot of time
trying to figure out some of the places where she
would hide them.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So I did figure I figured it out.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
So what I used to do is I would go
and play with my Christmas stories before Christmas. So I
found this unique way of pulling the g I Joes
out from the bottom of the plastic without really disrupting it.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And I would play with them, and I.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Was sticking right back, right back into plastic, and it
wasn't It was about two years ago. My mom never
knew it. Two years ago. I told her she was hot.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
She was mad because she was mad thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, because one I found out where they were hot hidden,
and then two I would play with them. So when
I would open my gate with them before I'm already
So I'm sure that maybe you Zach and maybe the
listeners maybe they have a wild Christmas story.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I really think, yeah, we came up. It was, uh
the first part of my childhood. We were, we were struggling.
We were struggling. I remember one year we wanted a
soccer ball, like so bad, and they couldn't afford it,
Like they just couldn't afford. And so Mom saw they
were giving away they just giveaway at the grocery storees
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high ve grocery stores, and they were giving away all
these different things.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
But one of them, one of the prizes was soccer balls.
They had ten soccer balls they were.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Given away, and so Mom went and she stuffed the
ballot box.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
She stuffed the box with entries.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
She went up there and stuffed the box with entriesat
we won the soccer won the soccer ball, and she
was like crying when she won the soccer ball because
she could afford to get the kids, you know, soccer
ball that year because we I mean, we were we're poor.
We're poor poor at that point. You know, we were
doing much much better by the time the nineties world around.
But yeah, that's probably the biggest Christmas memory I.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Think I have.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
This is probably that's not a wild Christmas story. I
was telling the guys the other day. I got my
own Christmas tradition act. I don't really see family on Christmas. Heay,
we usually do it after the holidays. Now we wait
till everybody, you know, you can see each other for
the first year. So my, you know, my thing is
now I go get Chinese food, watch a movie. I
guess my that's my Christmas tradition now. So probably uh
probably knows s Faratu and little Chinese food coming up
here on Christmas Day.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
See that's how fitting is it?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
That?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Not not the Chinese food because that that's kind of customary.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Benjamin E.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Bright, But you want to watch vampire movies. But I thought, okay,
like today is different. Today you're not wearing your typical
V neck.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, you wore the black V neck kids, so I
couldn't do I was like before the show and Nick
said he was wearing black V neck, So I was like, no, bro,
I can't like.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Twins, but that's part of your normal dress. Is like, like,
like you are vampire diaries.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I don't know that all.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I don't know what that is, but yes you do.
You know what vampire diaries are. Look at look at.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
That knows who they are, aren't you?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
This is Bill again? Come on?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Okay, So there was once upon a time, I think
it was on the CW something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, I've seen the I've seen the coversion one sell
the superhero stuff on it. He designed to play it
off like and madly men doing madly things those shows.
I didn't watch the Sparkle Fingers or whatever he was.
He said, sparklet fingers. But then it's part vampire.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
That's why you want to eat Chinese food and watch
vampire movies.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's why. That's exactly why. Maybe that might be it.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
By the way, we had a text on the text line,
do you remember Mask or Wield Warriors? I remember, yes,
I remember masks. I don't remember Wield Warriors, but I
do remember mask.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Wow. See you look at Zach. He's stump. He was like,
what what what is that? I know Mask?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I I haven't even heard of Wield war I don't
remember Wheeld Warriors at all.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't remember that one. He sat out to that
text or man, yeah it was that's a good pool
I remember. Do you remember a police.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Cartoon like it was a Cops or something like that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Like and they had code names. You don't remember that
the caused like Transport. I don't know if it Horse.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Transform was like Futuristic Police, and I tried for the
life for me to remember the name of that cartoon,
and I cannot remember. And it was like one of
the I'm hard case and he's bulletproof. That's yeah, like
whatever one of the names. So I like go by
Fake Transform and then I kind.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
It was like it was it was like one of
those was some.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Cop cartoon thing and I can't. I cannot, for the
life I remember the cartoon so ever said that I
have a visit move, but I can't. I can't really
make it out just yet. Cops and Crooks was it
was it doesn't sound right.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I mean that sounds like something else, you know, oh cops.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
It was like god, yes, yes, yeah, yes, okay, there
it is.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
It was like an animated uh it like one of
the guys was like cybernet Ache or whatever, and.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It was yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
The TV show it was like the Futuristic Cops too.
I think I think back then it was like yeah,
I think it was on in like the late eighties
or early nineties, but they were set in twenty twenty yeah,
you know where. Of course they had like all the
stuff they don't actually have now. It was twenty twenty four, now,
I remember. I remember the cold episode.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I was looking that I had the visual, but I
just couldn't make it out, you know what.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I used to get in truck cartoons used to
get me in trouble a lot as a kid, because
I used to come home from football practice and if
it's the same ritual every single day, I'm sitting there
watching the cartoons, either as stund the Cats or I'm
watching G I. Joe and I would eat a bowl
of frosted flakes. And my mom had this rule that
you don't eat cereal, don't need anything in your room,
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So she would always catch me because I would always
eat the cereal and fall asleep, and I would have
to hide the bowl underneath the fare until one time
she was doing some spring cleaning and she found that bowl,
and that bowl had some stuff in it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It was like a mold monster growing out of it.
It's like it's like a high school science project. Street Tangent.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Here's we're doing tangents and five six sixty Texan. I
remember after I got back from Iraq the first time.
I went backpack here for a while, all the kind
of stuff, and then eventually got a place with some
roommates and somebody made spaghetti one time, and I guess
they let it run it and like Burt, they forgot
they were making it, and like Burt to the bottom
of the right. And so he set it outside outside
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the back door of the apartment because he was like,
I'm gonna go, I'll clean this out later.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well then he just forgot about it, let it sit out.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
There, and this mold four foot mold monster grew out
of this thing before.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
We before anybody figured out that thing was back there.
Did you guys never go out of the back No,
nobody went in the back. It was like a town
It was like a townhouse.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
It was like a townhouse, but this tiny backyard that
nobody ever went in.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Someone knocks on your door, Hey sir, you need to
trim your heads in the back.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Of your No. It was It's literally I went out
there for something and I was like, what, uh you know, Yeah,
it's just like this groot growing out of the ground,
out of the spaghetti mines.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I was worried. I think it was gonna take
off and you know, yeah, man, that that that is wild.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I don't know why what made me think of that,
but yeah, pot under the couch.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Or whatever it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Like, when you were growing up, did you have like
a real Christmas tree or did you have the Christmas
Oh yeah, the Christmas tree with.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
The little.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Twisty every time you're putting them in there?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, it's oh yeah, it's not even like the new
fake Christmas trees where you just put the piece in
and that it opens up or whatnot, a simile disdain.
It was a drill involved and you were yeah, it
was yeah, it was not crazy, you know. Like and
like my kids, they don't know that side, and that's
why they explain to them.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
But it still doesn't make sense to them because they're thinking, like,
why would anyone have like a.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Fake Christmas tree?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And the reason being because when while my wife and
I got together, she she didn't grow up with real
Christmas trees, and ever since she was a kid, she
she always always had the fake one, but she always
wanted a real one.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And when she first said.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
To me our first Christmas when my son was younger,
let's go get a real Christmas tree, I was like,
what's that. I'm seriously, I was like, what's that the
one in the bus that comes in the box?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
In the box? No, no, no, She's like, no, we have
to go out.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You know, do you get like a Ryan Edwards plannel
and a lumber and an action.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
No, No, I wasn't, but I was.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I was so you know, dumb to the situation because
I had never had.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
A real Christmas tree before.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
And then she was like, well, let's go get let's
go get a ruin. And I'm thinking, like, I mean,
where are we gonna go in Denver, Colorado to this
tree is everywhere? Like while we're gonna go cut one
down off the highway and just bringing in the house.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I was like, what do you mean real Christmas tree?
And that became a.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Tradition for us, where now my kids know like what
a real Christmas tree is. But as I tried to
explain to them, like the stories that we're sharing right now,
about what it was like when I was a kid
and having to deal with certain things like I'm blessed
and I'm glad that my kids don't have to do
this Ben, But I remember kind of staring out of
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the window as a kid watching other kids in my neighborhood,
you know, ride around on bikes, you know, carry boom
boxes or even have skates and just going like, man,
I wish that we could do and it sometimes we
would to go outside because I mean, kids will make
jokes about you because you.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Don't have those things. Yeah. So, but but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Saying that as for anyone to feel sorry for me.
But it's just sharing those stories for me is so
important because it shows where my life was, so how
I can provide a different life for my kids.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well right, yeah, And I think that's the thing. It's like,
you know, how far you calm and all that kind
of stuff. You know. I remember some I remember some
tight Christmases.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I remember some some you know, some overloaded Christmases and
kind of you know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
When when I met my wife, like that was sort
of the thing, Like their family did huge Christmas is great.
It was overwhelming the amount of the amount of presents
and all that kind of stuff. So that was one
of those things that was like, uh, it was fascinating
to me. You know, he was an only child, but
they had a huge Christmas present. I'm looking under the tree, like,
oh my god, there's gonna be a thousand presents under here.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
See. I became like a Christmas knob anyway.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Because I was like, well, my wife was like, well,
let's get the kids this. They don't need that. And
she's like, well, let's give them this, but they don't
need that. Well why are you saying that they don't
need it? I was like, I didn't have it, so
they don't need it.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah. Right. It became one of those one of those
types of things. Yeah, it's it's certainly been. It's certainly
been interesting over the years. But yeah, as it were, I.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Mean, you know, my tradition was always go watch a
movie and eat some Chinese food.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
And I was about it. So you know, it's it's
the thing less you got family, you know, and and that's.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That's but our family's always like done the celebrate later thing,
you know, like we give each other calls around Christmas,
but then we just go read up and go meet
up randomly and the you.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Know, in the springtime or something.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So plans this year, plans this year to meet up
for Christmas got foiled.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So now we're you know, so now we're meet up.
You know, what you know, the holiday times, this.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Is a great way to reflect on the year that was.
And for me, when we celebrate Christmas, that's the one
thing that I do. Obviously it's a celebratory moment and
you want to be blessed and thankful for what you have,
but also shows that the year is closing and I
like to go back and reflect on that I actually
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achieve all the goals.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That I set out to achieve that.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Specific year, and if I didn't, it's rolling into that
new year with you know, revitalized spirit and saying, okay, well,
if I didn't hit all my marks, I need to
do that. And then next year, is there something and
I know we haven't reached the new year yet, is
there something that you may not have achieved this year
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that you may say, okay, come twenty twenty five, you
definitely want to make.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Sure that you hit Yeah, I'm gonna try and get
healthy next year. Like that's one of those things.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Every year I have the good intention of you know,
doing all that kind of stuff you see far of
those good year.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I'm try to get a little bit healthy.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I mean, I've been getting healthier year by year, but
it's I mean I think they you know, a lot
of people don't see that he's coming in here, you know,
coming into the station or whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You know, you try to get a quick bite and
all this.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
You don't need as healthy as you could, you know,
when you should be doing dinner and that kind of stuff.
So I'm gonna I'm gonna try and do some some
things to get a little bit healthier in the new year.
And that's that's really I think where it's at. I
give it one more good run to, like, you know,
getting the workouts and try to get you know, try
to get back in shape and see where that's at
and and go from there. But other than that, I mean,
there's not really a whole heck of a lot. I mean,
continue growing this show. Then you're doing a great show
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with you and and now we got Zach on there
and Grant and you know, that's that's really kind of
my my goal for next year.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So Zach, as far as you, I mean, Christmas is
a couple of days away. I mean, is there something
that you're looking forward to or celebrating what what is it?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I'm celebrating with my girlfriend's family, which I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I was telling then on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Got some amazing cinnamon roles I'm looking forward to or
her mom's a big baker and so those I look
forward to those every year.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
What was you guys address again?
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, but that's always a big plus. And then uh yeah,
looking forward to growing this show, growing my own Broncos show.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Let's talk Broncos and all that in the new year. Yeah,
definitely dope, guys.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Looking forward to getting back with you, getting back together
with you guys on Friday, the live show then and
of course the game on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
You want to be right here on Kaoe starting at
eight am for Broncos Warm Up with yours. Truly appreciate
all you guys. Have a merry Christmas. I'll see you
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five six six nine zeros text line. You guys want
to get involved in conversation. I had a couple of
texts come in here. One says I remember many previous
Chiefs games. I thought, oh boy, this would be a
shootout and ended up being a low scoring game. True,
but the Chiefs have a defense. In fact, their defense
might be carrying their team too right now, even though.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
They have Patrick Mahomes. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I think that's kind of been the case for Kansas
City over.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
The past to three seasons.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And this is the thing that gives them so much
confidence is that they notice, though they don't really have
to win in ways that they won in year's past,
winning with your defense. I know usually that's kind of
reserved been for Super Bowl and the playoffs, but it's
kind of been some of a motto for Spagnola and
the Chiefs for a while, and for me as a
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former defensive player, the mentality has always been the same.
They don't score, obviously, they can't win, and so much
in today's game, we dismiss so many of the positions
because everyone lives to prop up one position, one position only,
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and that's the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, speaking of the quarterback, how important is this Rookie
of the Year chase for the Denver Broncos. His Boni's
out of it at this point thanks to a cold snap,
and yet Daniels doing what he did to Philly is
just something.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That even matters in the end, Yes and no, I
mean it matters to your point for the Denver Broncos
and being able to say, well, after all of these
years of and trusting other people's quarterbacks to lead.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Your team, you've now been.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Able to develop your own quarterback and that quarterback is
going to secure promise for the Broncos for a long
period of time. The reason why I say that, if
you go back and look over Broncos history of the
past twenty twenty two eye years, three of those quarterbacks
that have taking the Broncos to the playoffs have not
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been their own players, John Oway, Jake Plumber, Hayden Manning.
The only guy who won the playoff game who was
drafted by the Broncos is de bow So. Having bo
perform well enough to have Rookie of the Year honors,
it says a lot about him as an individual, the organization.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And the coaching staff and how they have.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Helped groom him to get to him to this point offensively,
and they would be a hell of an honor to
say because Sean Payton has never done it. Yeah, he's
never done it with a rookie quarterback. You look at
the Broncos haven't done it. Sean Payton has that.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
This is why it's so important.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Now to answer another question you asked about, is it
a possibility that both can win this award?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It would be great, but it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You just have too much, too much going on with
some of these other players, and Brock Bauers have set
records for a tight end, let alone a rookie tight end.
And then you've got Jayden Daniels, who is long is
just I mean, he's carrying the team, all right, So
it's not a defense carry Washington. It's him carrying that team, dude.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
The one thing about Jane Daniels and real recognized, real
so Broncos countryt you get upset with me. Hey, to
each his own. But it's all about moments, right, It's
all about those moments when you are in a situation
can you come through?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And sadly enough, I mean Jane Daniels.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Has had more of those memorable moments than both Knicks.
And when I say that, it's not a slight to
both Knicks. I mean, you know how I feel about
both Knicks. But we're talking about the Rookie of the Year.
Ward and oh, by the way, don't forget Brian Thomas,
the rookie out of LSU who plays with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
This kid has more than a thousand yards receiving.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
He leaves all rookie wide receivers in receiving.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And once again, keep that in mind because there's no
Trevor Lawrence. Right, there's no Trevor Lawrence as his quarterback,
but he's still able to produce numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But Jane Daniels is different.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And before I came into the show, obviously I'm texting
a couple of coaches I know, asking them their own
personal opinions of Jane Day because I don't want anyone
to perceive that, well, this is just one side a viewpoint.
And someone said that he's a dog. Someone else said
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he's a mofo. Okay, right, just tell you how coaches.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Around the league view Jay and Dames.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
And once again, the kid is spectacular. He's doing some
great things. I mean, what do you think do you
think what the Broncos playing on Saturday? And there I say,
you know, it's not Monday night, it's not Sunday night,
but it's still a primetime game.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Do you think that both.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Can electrify the people in Cincinnati and keep his name humming.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
In that conversation, well, I.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Mean, you're up against the right defense for it, and
you're probably game script is probably going to.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Be a shootout.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So if you can be successful just probably drives you
back into the conversation at least a little bit. But
right now, the enduring memory for everybody is what jayde
Daniels just did against ostensibly one of the two best
teams in the NFC.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
All right, so here's my second question for you missed.
All Right, with that being said, known as.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Though the Broncos are still trying to push for the playoffs,
they that's really need this game. This game could be
a shootout. We saw in the game agains the charges.
The Broncos start off running the ball. Second half it
disappeared because of the Rookie of the Year award conversations.
Do you see a situation where we see the abandonment
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of the run game again and a heavy emphasis more
so than ever the season on the passing game.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
To get BO back in that conversation, I hope not.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I hope Sean Payton gets that out of his head
and recognizes that the key to doing this is scheming
up and getting the run game going.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It'll make bo that much better.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But the problem is, you don't get credited for being
an offensive genius when you lead league in rushing. You know,
you're credited for being offensive genius when you're running backs.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Doing all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Otherwise we'd be talking about what a great offensive cording
to Greg Roman is over the years.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
So you're saying, yes, you do believe that the volume
of pay is going to supersede the running game.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I believe that Sean Payton I mean Sean Payton offenses
have always been that way.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
He had his best success when he had more balance,
and when they did run the ball the Super Bowl year,
they were one of the top rushing teams.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
In the league.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's how you have that success. But I mean, being honest,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
See he passes to keep passing, and he was passing and.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
To his detribuit there which again at the end of
the first half, when he's throwing the ball for no reason,
you are eighty five yards away from the end zone
of forty seconds eighty excuse me, eighty three yard whate
it was you. Eighty five was seventeen seconds. There was
no reason to be running the ball none. And I'm
tired of people with go for the throat. The only
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throat you're stomping on is your own. At that point,
you're cutting off your own air, kneel the football. The
points matter, the wins matter. The rest of this stuff
doesn't matter. So does that theory or would that theory
make you a little nervous about the game on Saturday.
I'm already nervous about that game. I don't think we
have the offense to keep up even when he's dialed in,
(08:08):
And I'm worried that he's more concerned about proving everybody
right about drafting bow Knicks than he is about winning
that football game.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But that may be important to him because he's probably thinking, Okay,
if I can kill two births in one stone, keep
bowling that conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But you get you get the wins, the legacy stays alive.
You get the wins, and the rest of it doesn't matter.
You've got already made defense. It's got some cracks right
now because I got some injuries, but you got already
made defense. You got those far get the wins, get
in the playoffs, do something nobody has ever done before,
winn a Super Bowl to different teams. The Offensive Rookie
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of the Year isn't even an award Sean Payton gets.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
But while it might not make a difference to you
of some other people, that.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
May be something that is a big deal for for
for Sean Payton because once again it's it's hies in
the legas see, because everything that has been said about
what Sean could not do outside.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Of New Orleans with Drew Brees, He's now able to
prove that, yes, I could get it done. I did
it with.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
An organization or historically have had prominent quarterbacks that have
been household names. Now Sean Payton's probably.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Thinking, I get a chance to do to do that
here in Denver.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Denver, once again we could say, well, I got to
think about Jay Carlin never went to a playoff game
here in the Broncos uniform. Right, so now he would
be able to say he did something that even Mike
Seneha didn't do.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I mean, cool, you can have that, but right now
you're you're it's to the detriment of your team. You
could do something at nobody in the NFL has ever done.
Forget somebody on the Broncos and win a Super Bowl
with two different teams. Concentrate on that, concentrate on winning games,
create winning culture, creates winning habits. You've shifted the culture
from where was with Nate Hackett. But that's the lowest
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bar on earth to clear.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
All you had to do.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Is not have the offensive line fighting a backup quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
On the sideline, and you fly over that bar.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
All you have to do is get the plays in
on time, and you fly over that bar.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
The idea, Ben, is that you the way that you
win in the NFL is you went through the quarterback.
Because we've heard this BS saying before and I don't
like it. Well, if you don't have if you if
you have two quarterbacks, then you don't have right And
in some cases you may.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Need that because your starter could go down.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
If you don't have a guy in waiting, you're freaking
trouble and you don't find.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Out until you in that situation.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So the whole idea, if you have two quarterbacks, you
don't have none.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
To me, this is me. I just find it. I
find it. BS.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well, yeah, and I'm not talking about two quarterbacks, you
know in this particular situation. For me, I'm just my
question is are we trying to win certain things at
the expense of winning?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, but the idea wasn't.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Again, the reason I said that is that how many
times we've heard you win games through the quarter You
win games with your quarterback is able.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You win games if your quarterback is capable of getting
you out of third down. That's where you win games. Right,
You need a quarterback to be able to do that.
If you can consistently have a quarterback that can throw
you out of third down situations, you can win.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, how about this for it? Try this op for
an idea.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
How about not being in those third and long situations.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
How about that?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, it makes it a lot easier for a quarterback
to be able to throw you out of those third
down situations. And if you're in third and three, then
you get in the third and three situations running the football.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
See, we solved it. We just solved it. We s
we just solved it. Right there, they did not so
that backg We just solved it. So we'll take We'll
take half the salary. Coach split it. Betwe us I'll
take table scraps from listen.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I'm hoping that there's some semblance of balance against the
Bengals out of it because the deal constantly and pass
pass pass mode.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Then you feed into what their their defense is bad,
and you feed into what the one thing they can
do get after the passer.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
You don't want to do that. Yeah, I just you know,
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I'm my frustration level over the last couple of games,
and it really it dates back to, you know, right
after the Kansas City game, you know, right in that ruin,
there's been frustration. We've been getting away with stuff, whether
it was Jonathan Taylor dropping a ball, or having the
defense pick six a couple of times a game, or
you know whatever, we've been getting away with it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, you're up.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Against the part of the season where you can't count
on luck and get away with it, and you're up
against teams where you can't count on getting away with it.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It's different.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Once the Cleveland Browns or the Indianapolis Coal to the
Las Vegas Raiders, you can get away with it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You can't get away with bad process against good teams.
They'll make you pay for it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
The Chargers may us pay for it and you know,
I'm concerned about this game.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I hope everybody gets to spike the football on me
on Saturday and be like Ben was worried for nothing.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I hope we blow them out. Do you ever concern that? Okay,
after the bye week.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Everyone thought the Broncos is gonna come back and it
would be much better offensively, Yes, And I thought you
are they were not.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yes, That's another thing. I was like, I thought you
were gonna you took that time off.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I thought you were going to come back, rededicate to
the run, build off that and especially against the Cults,
who are thirty first in the league against the run.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And it just didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And two weeks in a row, I've watched bad process
get bailed out. I watched it get bailed out by
the pick sixers, and I watched it get bailed out
by a running back dropping a ball before the goal line.
And then you get to the Charger game and you
can't count on that.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
You know, they didn't do that. They don't make mistakes.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Okay, Okay, after the charge of game on Thursday, let's
just say it's not like a real buye but there's still.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Is mini by some mini bi you get an extra
day or two because they were not even to do
it coming off to Buy.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I don't have any more confidence now with the extra
rest day.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
No. I mean, I'm glad that we're going to get
some players back.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
We can get Riley back, you know, and there some
of these guys will be a little bit more healed up,
and that'll be good. But I don't have any more
confidence in that. I've seen Sean Payton off of bye
weeks for what two seasons now, I'm not impressed.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I'm Shania Twain, Okay, I pressed.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
So there's nothing in your thought process to say, Okay,
well they didn't do that well off to Buy against
the Chargers. Could there be a possibility that they they've
learned the errors of their ways to now have changed
and see an opportunity and take advantage of the opportunity.
But two games left, win this game, get into the playoffs,
and end all the narratives and the conversation to Dalag, yeah, at.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
That point you do, you turn it back around and
all this conversation goes away. But I mean, winning with
bad process was eventually going to run out and that's
what happened in the Chargers game.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It was bad process at the end of the half.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And I know you guys think it's not that big
a deal, but that three points was the difference. They
don't get that three points. The Broncos are driving at
the end of the game with a chance to tie
or win, not trying to get ten points, and they're
already punching their ticket if they get that goal. If
they get in there do that, they've already punched their ticket.
That's the difference. They had bad process against the Raiders
to close that game up, but they got lucky. They
got bailed out because Gardner minsch you got injured and
(15:07):
then desman Ritter turned it over, so I you know it.
For me, this is one of those things where like
this is and it was weird watching coach Peyton.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Double down on it.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It is it is pressure trying to you know, I've
seen all this stuff and no, it's not.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It was a bad process.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Like, just admit it was bad process, and you've got
to learn from it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And move on. The mistakes that were are learning opportunities.
That's where we learn, not from the.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Victories from the shortcom the failures from the times that
we didn't make it, and in this particular case, they
didn't get it because of a bad decision.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
We got to hit a break. We'll be back up
to this, Nick. We got one more segment before Christmas.
Break here. What do you wanna get into here?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Well, I want to this is not taxicab confessions, but
it could be. But well, well we need to tax
the cab uber confessions confessions.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
So we turn it around. Let me let me turn
them the light down low for this one.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Get it.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We're gonna set there to get some some moods lighting
in here.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
There we go, all right, maybe we get some some
berry white going in the background. I think I got
a couple of bottles of panot in the car. We
can uh, we can just set this thing off right now.
We're not going that far. I was just going with wait, wait, wait,
I just turned the light down low. There's no need
for barry, right, but isn't. I'll tell you here's my confession.
(16:26):
So little Christmas story really quickly.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So as a kid, we always try to anticipate what
gets my my mom's going.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
To purchase for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And I was a big you know, into Transformers and
g I Joe's just transports.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Did you go bots too or was it knockoff?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
No? No, no, no, they can't do go bots. Man,
you don't remember Goot, Yes, I do remember go By.
You go outside with the go bot whenever all the
other kids.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Transform beat there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But my mom used to try to populd buy things
and hide them. And I spent a lot of time
trying to figure out some of the places where she
would hide them.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So I did figure I figured it out.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
So what I used to do is I would go
and play with my Christmas stories before Christmas. So I
found this unique way of pulling the g I Joes
out from the bottom of the plastic without really disrupting it.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And I would play with them, and I.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Was sticking right back, right back into plastic, and it
wasn't It was about two years ago. My mom never
knew it. Two years ago. I told her she was hot.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
She was mad because she was mad thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, because one I found out where they were hot hidden,
and then two I would play with them. So when
I would open my gate with them before I'm already
So I'm sure that maybe you Zach and maybe the
listeners maybe they have a wild Christmas story.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I really think, yeah, we came up. It was, uh
the first part of my childhood. We were, we were struggling.
We were struggling. I remember one year we wanted a
soccer ball, like so bad, and they couldn't afford it,
Like they just couldn't afford. And so Mom saw they
were giving away they just giveaway at the grocery storees
(18:19):
high ve grocery stores, and they were giving away all
these different things.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
But one of them, one of the prizes was soccer balls.
They had ten soccer balls they were.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Given away, and so Mom went and she stuffed the
ballot box.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
She stuffed the box with entries.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
She went up there and stuffed the box with entriesat
we won the soccer won the soccer ball, and she
was like crying when she won the soccer ball because
she could afford to get the kids, you know, soccer
ball that year because we I mean, we were we're poor.
We're poor poor at that point. You know, we were
doing much much better by the time the nineties world around.
But yeah, that's probably the biggest Christmas memory I.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Think I have.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
This is probably that's not a wild Christmas story. I
was telling the guys the other day. I got my
own Christmas tradition act. I don't really see family on Christmas. Heay,
we usually do it after the holidays. Now we wait
till everybody, you know, you can see each other for
the first year. So my, you know, my thing is
now I go get Chinese food, watch a movie. I
guess my that's my Christmas tradition now. So probably uh
probably knows s Faratu and little Chinese food coming up
here on Christmas Day.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
See that's how fitting is it?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
That?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Not not the Chinese food because that that's kind of customary.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Benjamin E.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Bright, But you want to watch vampire movies. But I thought, okay,
like today is different. Today you're not wearing your typical
V neck.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, you wore the black V neck kids, so I
couldn't do I was like before the show and Nick
said he was wearing black V neck, So I was like, no, bro,
I can't like.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Twins, but that's part of your normal dress. Is like, like,
like you are vampire diaries.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I don't know that all.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I don't know what that is, but yes you do.
You know what vampire diaries are. Look at look at.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
That knows who they are, aren't you?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
This is Bill again? Come on?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Okay, So there was once upon a time, I think
it was on the CW something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, I've seen the I've seen the coversion one sell
the superhero stuff on it. He designed to play it
off like and madly men doing madly things those shows.
I didn't watch the Sparkle Fingers or whatever he was.
He said, sparklet fingers. But then it's part vampire.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
That's why you want to eat Chinese food and watch
vampire movies.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's why. That's exactly why. Maybe that might be it.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
By the way, we had a text on the text line,
do you remember Mask or Wield Warriors? I remember, yes,
I remember masks. I don't remember Wield Warriors, but I
do remember mask.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Wow. See you look at Zach. He's stump. He was like,
what what what is that? I know Mask?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I I haven't even heard of Wield war I don't
remember Wheeld Warriors at all.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't remember that one. He sat out to that
text or man, yeah it was that's a good pool
I remember. Do you remember a police.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Cartoon like it was a Cops or something like that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Like and they had code names. You don't remember that
the caused like Transport. I don't know if it Horse.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Transform was like Futuristic Police, and I tried for the
life for me to remember the name of that cartoon,
and I cannot remember. And it was like one of
the I'm hard case and he's bulletproof. That's yeah, like
whatever one of the names. So I like go by
Fake Transform and then I kind.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
It was like it was it was like one of
those was some.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Cop cartoon thing and I can't. I cannot, for the
life I remember the cartoon so ever said that I
have a visit move, but I can't. I can't really
make it out just yet. Cops and Crooks was it
was it doesn't sound right.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I mean that sounds like something else, you know, oh cops.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
It was like god, yes, yes, yeah, yes, okay, there
it is.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
It was like an animated uh it like one of
the guys was like cybernet Ache or whatever, and.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It was yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
The TV show it was like the Futuristic Cops too.
I think I think back then it was like yeah,
I think it was on in like the late eighties
or early nineties, but they were set in twenty twenty yeah,
you know where. Of course they had like all the
stuff they don't actually have now. It was twenty twenty four, now,
I remember. I remember the cold episode.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I was looking that I had the visual, but I
just couldn't make it out, you know what.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I used to get in truck cartoons used to
get me in trouble a lot as a kid, because
I used to come home from football practice and if
it's the same ritual every single day, I'm sitting there
watching the cartoons, either as stund the Cats or I'm
watching G I. Joe and I would eat a bowl
of frosted flakes. And my mom had this rule that
you don't eat cereal, don't need anything in your room,
(22:26):
So she would always catch me because I would always
eat the cereal and fall asleep, and I would have
to hide the bowl underneath the fare until one time
she was doing some spring cleaning and she found that bowl,
and that bowl had some stuff in it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It was like a mold monster growing out of it.
It's like it's like a high school science project. Street Tangent.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Here's we're doing tangents and five six sixty Texan. I
remember after I got back from Iraq the first time.
I went backpack here for a while, all the kind
of stuff, and then eventually got a place with some
roommates and somebody made spaghetti one time, and I guess
they let it run it and like Burt, they forgot
they were making it, and like Burt to the bottom
of the right. And so he set it outside outside
(23:10):
the back door of the apartment because he was like,
I'm gonna go, I'll clean this out later.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well then he just forgot about it, let it sit out.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
There, and this mold four foot mold monster grew out
of this thing before.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
We before anybody figured out that thing was back there.
Did you guys never go out of the back No,
nobody went in the back. It was like a town
It was like a townhouse.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
It was like a townhouse, but this tiny backyard that
nobody ever went in.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Someone knocks on your door, Hey sir, you need to
trim your heads in the back.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Of your No. It was It's literally I went out
there for something and I was like, what, uh you know, Yeah,
it's just like this groot growing out of the ground,
out of the spaghetti mines.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I was worried. I think it was gonna take
off and you know, yeah, man, that that that is wild.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I don't know why what made me think of that,
but yeah, pot under the couch.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Or whatever it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Like, when you were growing up, did you have like
a real Christmas tree or did you have the Christmas
Oh yeah, the Christmas tree with.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
The little.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Twisty every time you're putting them in there?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, it's oh yeah, it's not even like the new
fake Christmas trees where you just put the piece in
and that it opens up or whatnot, a simile disdain.
It was a drill involved and you were yeah, it
was yeah, it was not crazy, you know. Like and
like my kids, they don't know that side, and that's
why they explain to them.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
But it still doesn't make sense to them because they're thinking, like,
why would anyone have like a.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Fake Christmas tree?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And the reason being because when while my wife and
I got together, she she didn't grow up with real
Christmas trees, and ever since she was a kid, she
she always always had the fake one, but she always
wanted a real one.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
And when she first said.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
To me our first Christmas when my son was younger,
let's go get a real Christmas tree, I was like,
what's that. I'm seriously, I was like, what's that the
one in the bus that comes in the box?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
In the box? No, no, no, She's like, no, we have
to go out.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You know, do you get like a Ryan Edwards plannel
and a lumber and an action.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
No, No, I wasn't, but I was.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I was so you know, dumb to the situation because
I had never had.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
A real Christmas tree before.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
And then she was like, well, let's go get let's
go get a ruin. And I'm thinking, like, I mean,
where are we gonna go in Denver, Colorado to this
tree is everywhere? Like while we're gonna go cut one
down off the highway and just bringing in the house.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I was like, what do you mean real Christmas tree?
And that became a.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Tradition for us, where now my kids know like what
a real Christmas tree is. But as I tried to
explain to them, like the stories that we're sharing right now,
about what it was like when I was a kid
and having to deal with certain things like I'm blessed
and I'm glad that my kids don't have to do
this Ben, But I remember kind of staring out of
(25:57):
the window as a kid watching other kids in my neighborhood,
you know, ride around on bikes, you know, carry boom
boxes or even have skates and just going like, man,
I wish that we could do and it sometimes we
would to go outside because I mean, kids will make
jokes about you because you.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Don't have those things. Yeah. So, but but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Saying that as for anyone to feel sorry for me.
But it's just sharing those stories for me is so
important because it shows where my life was, so how
I can provide a different life for my kids.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well right, yeah, And I think that's the thing. It's like,
you know, how far you calm and all that kind
of stuff. You know. I remember some I remember some
tight Christmases.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I remember some some you know, some overloaded Christmases and
kind of you know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
When when I met my wife, like that was sort
of the thing, Like their family did huge Christmas is great.
It was overwhelming the amount of the amount of presents
and all that kind of stuff. So that was one
of those things that was like, uh, it was fascinating
to me. You know, he was an only child, but
they had a huge Christmas present. I'm looking under the tree, like,
oh my god, there's gonna be a thousand presents under here.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
See. I became like a Christmas knob anyway.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Because I was like, well, my wife was like, well,
let's get the kids this. They don't need that. And
she's like, well, let's give them this, but they don't
need that. Well why are you saying that they don't
need it? I was like, I didn't have it, so
they don't need it.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah. Right. It became one of those one of those
types of things. Yeah, it's it's certainly been. It's certainly
been interesting over the years. But yeah, as it were, I.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Mean, you know, my tradition was always go watch a
movie and eat some Chinese food.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
And I was about it. So you know, it's it's
the thing less you got family, you know, and and that's.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That's but our family's always like done the celebrate later thing,
you know, like we give each other calls around Christmas,
but then we just go read up and go meet
up randomly and the you.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Know, in the springtime or something.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So plans this year, plans this year to meet up
for Christmas got foiled.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So now we're you know, so now we're meet up.
You know, what you know, the holiday times, this.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Is a great way to reflect on the year that was.
And for me, when we celebrate Christmas, that's the one
thing that I do. Obviously it's a celebratory moment and
you want to be blessed and thankful for what you have,
but also shows that the year is closing and I
like to go back and reflect on that I actually
(28:16):
achieve all the goals.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That I set out to achieve that.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Specific year, and if I didn't, it's rolling into that
new year with you know, revitalized spirit and saying, okay, well,
if I didn't hit all my marks, I need to
do that. And then next year, is there something and
I know we haven't reached the new year yet, is
there something that you may not have achieved this year
(28:40):
that you may say, okay, come twenty twenty five, you
definitely want to make.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Sure that you hit Yeah, I'm gonna try and get
healthy next year. Like that's one of those things.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Every year I have the good intention of you know,
doing all that kind of stuff you see far of
those good year.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I'm try to get a little bit healthy.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I mean, I've been getting healthier year by year, but
it's I mean I think they you know, a lot
of people don't see that he's coming in here, you know,
coming into the station or whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You know, you try to get a quick bite and
all this.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
You don't need as healthy as you could, you know,
when you should be doing dinner and that kind of stuff.
So I'm gonna I'm gonna try and do some some
things to get a little bit healthier in the new year.
And that's that's really I think where it's at. I
give it one more good run to, like, you know,
getting the workouts and try to get you know, try
to get back in shape and see where that's at
and and go from there. But other than that, I mean,
there's not really a whole heck of a lot. I mean,
continue growing this show. Then you're doing a great show
(29:27):
with you and and now we got Zach on there
and Grant and you know, that's that's really kind of
my my goal for next year.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So Zach, as far as you, I mean, Christmas is
a couple of days away. I mean, is there something
that you're looking forward to or celebrating what what is it?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I'm celebrating with my girlfriend's family, which I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I was telling then on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Got some amazing cinnamon roles I'm looking forward to or
her mom's a big baker and so those I look
forward to those every year.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
What was you guys address again?
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, but that's always a big plus. And then uh yeah,
looking forward to growing this show, growing my own Broncos show.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Let's talk Broncos and all that in the new year. Yeah,
definitely dope, guys.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Looking forward to getting back with you, getting back together
with you guys on Friday, the live show then and
of course the game on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
You want to be right here on Kaoe starting at
eight am for Broncos Warm Up with yours. Truly appreciate
all you guys. Have a merry Christmas. I'll see you
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