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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Goose Country tonight, but old bride Grant Smith the dilemma
during the break. So we're trying to figure out some
of these some of these sports book cash out offers.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sometimes they sometimes they try to change you. They try
to they put the weave the money in front of
your face, trying to get you to take less money.
I don't know, Grant, I'm waffling.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
In the words of the Steve Miller band, take the
money and run, you think?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I think so just that night, every time I keep
going to push the button, I can't quite. I can't
quite do it. And uh, it's a it's a I
mean it's a decent amount of money, so it's more
than decent. I'm trying to be humble so I don't
get emails like I got earlier. Yeah, man, I think
you take it in this one. Yeah, I probably will.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
See I'm gonna play this one out till for for
a couple more hours and just kind of stare at
it for a little while and see what happens. Let's
put the Kwait cosper a hotline and bring on our guy,
Parker Gabriel At Parker Jay Gabril, Hey, Parker, are you
doing buddy.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I'm good. It's like, you know, you can you can't
go broke taking a propit then, and you know, sometimes
you don't need a whole lot of air yards to
move the ball down.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The you know that's true. However, in this case, this
is the difference between uh being Derek Carr and being
uh and being Patrick mahomes Like.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's it's that kind of difference.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, well, okay, then trying to be home.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean, it's it's decent, it's decent, it's it's nice,
but it could be way way nicer if I you know,
fingers crossed on this. Two of the legs are gonna catch.
It's the third leg that we're questionable on. So uh, anyway,
I'll get into all that stuff later. Five six, six
nights year olds and texta loaw, do you guys hear
your question is Parker Gabriel Parker.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Let's let's start off with.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I was just talking about the cosmetic from the athletic
and yeah, we were talking about the the culture that
that Sean Payton has established. Uh, certainly his has resurrected
this thing similar and I used the parallel, you know,
when John Fox came in and cleaned up the the
Josh McDaniels mess. Sean Payton has certainly come in and
clean up to Nate Hackett mess. And there's they're a
professional UH football team.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
A lot of youth on this team race out the
nine wins, expectations change, and.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Then we're so on a slide on the back end here.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know, we make some coaching hiccup against the Chargers
and as well as some execution stuff in the second
half debatable coaching hiccup, not going for two, playing for open,
playing for the tie, and over time against the Bengals
turned out to bite you. And now it's you're down
to it. You're out of parachutes, you're out of reserve shoots,
you're you're on in to Kansas City. You need to
win this and get in. How big is it for
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this football team and this culture to get this win
now versus how bad is it to not get it?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah? I think, I mean it's I don't think you
can overstate how big it is. I really don't. And
like you hear a lot of the well if you
just said you didn't pick them to win nine games,
and no, I didn't, like they're ahead of schedule. But
the thing is, if you don't finish this one off,
not only is it a bitter case, and you never know.
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Every NFL season is different. Like Sean Payton pointed out
today and he meant it in a good way, that
they've been among the healthiest team in the NFL again
this year, two straight years. And you can have the
best people and all that. It's like, you just are
not going to be at the top of that list
every single year. And so like there's all these things,
like a lot of the guys, coaches, players this week,
you hear a lot of how fragile even being in
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this position to get in is. In the NFL. It's
not a guarantee every year. There's turnover over every year,
and so starting like play it out. If they lose
and they don't get in, then you're starting next year
with nothing short of everything. Up to nine wins is like, yeah, yeah,
we've been here before. It doesn't mean you can't make
progress in the process of getting back to that point,
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but you're sort of like, if you go that far
and then it doesn't pay at least by getting in
the startover, it's a really long climb back to that
point and not saying I mean, you have no choice
but to try to do it. But the point is
you've just got to find a way to get in
and to at least experience the next thing this year,
to have something, you know, besides a bitter taste to
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chase next year.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And there's a there's a there's a chasm, a grand
canyon of difference between getting a taste of the playoffs.
Even if you get the Brake speat off you by Buffalo,
there's a vast difference between getting a taste of the
playoffs and ending the season on a three game skin.
We only needed one to clinch in terms of I'm
instilling my.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Culture, I'm getting buy in.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
There.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
There's a galaxy of difference between those two outcomes.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah, there is. And I think part of the like
part of the three game slide thing is like if
you look at the schedule, you know, every this this
was a schedule where you know, depending on what your
expectations were for the Broncos, like, I think everybody had
the same parts of the calendar, you know, circled and obviously,
like some teams are end up being way different than
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you think they're going to be Like a win against
the Jets looks a lot different now than it did
in Week three or Week four, But like, you know,
everybody knew nine and ten on the road in Baltimore
and Kansas City was going to be a bear, and
everybody knew the finishing kick was tough, and so like,
it's one thing to lose a couple of games, you know,
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they feel huge because they were just all you got
to do is win one and get in. I think
if they win on Sunday, the other thing that will
happen is you'll look at it and say, like they
went ten and seven, and yeah, they were one and
three down the stretch, but they they played a couple
of teams that were really playing well at the time
they played them, and they had chances to win even
those two losses. The complexion of them looks a lot
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different based on the outcome of Sunday's game. And so yeah,
I mean it just it tilts the entire thing pretty
much all the way one way or the other, even
though like in the grand scheme of things, that may
not be fair, but that's the way it's gonna feel,
you know, depending on how it goes someday, Well.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That segues into what I want to do, because that
is one of those things where it isn't fair. You
know that there's a sliding scale on expectation, right. If
you told anybody in this fan base, and I've told
just everybody, but I have a conversation with you as well,
so anybody's fan base during training camps, this team was
going to get, you know, be on the verge of
making the playoffs. They just need to win their last
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game and they'd make the playoffs. This year when the
book had them at five and a half wins, you know,
bo Nicks was looking, you know, at his floor like
a top half of the league's starter. If you told
me those things to start the season, I think everybody
would have make ecstatic. But now here we are at
the end of the season and we've seen what we've seen,
and if they lose this game, I think it is
a soul crushing defeat for the city definitely.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And I use I use this analogy a lot. But
if you're you know, every thirteen seed in the NCAA tournament,
if you told their fan base, hey, you're going to
be up five, you know you're going to be within
a couple points of at the under four time out
in the first round of the tournament. Every single person's
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going to be like, yep, I'll take that. But then
when you actually get to that moment and you're up
five with three minutes to go, it brutal if you
lose that game because you made it to that point.
It doesn't matter whether people thought you were going to
make it that point, or whether you should be at
that point, or what the factors were, whether it was
whether it was fluky or whether you really did hit
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you know, a lot hit you know, a couple of
home runs in free agency, and you think you found
your guy at quarterback and you got more than you
thought you would get out of you know, a bunch
of different positions, Like it doesn't matter how you got there.
Once you're in that spot, like you either get the
job done or you don't. And that's like it is
a Categorically it's a good thing for the franchise and
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for the fan base that they found their way to
this spot in a year where a lot of people
didn't think they would. But that doesn't mean that it's
going to be any less disappointing. If from here they
come up.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Short, right, and in that sliding scale something I termed
or I called earlier the wee.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
You call it the Larry Coker effect, right, because.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You know, you have Miami and they had they were
winning championships and everything else. Larry Coker takes over and
they're so used to winning that even eleven and ten
win seasons was good enough for the guy you got fired,
you know, And so that's.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
That's sort of the thing success exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, yeah, is that success begets the expectation of success.
And so that's where we go. I think the clock
starts on Sean Payton next year. I think that you're
paying eighteen million dollars a year, and I think that
if you don't make the playoffs this year, it's sole
crushing for the city. But from the ownership perspective, you've
been playing with house money this year. Next year is
when it starts to count and the window on Bodex
officially opens, and that's where you're going to start being
(08:29):
expected to produce results as we as we look forward
to next season, this.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Team's going to have to make some choice of some decisions.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You've got nick, butto to pay that's that's got to
come up, and that's going to be a big one.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Zach Allen's got to be top back off.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
There's no guaranteed money in his deal coming up, you know,
And then you're probably moving on from guys like DJ
Jones and Courtland Sutton after you've already topped off Bowls
and minors and all the other guys you've topped off
this year. As we look at this, obviously you're going
to go to the draft for some of this stuff.
You need a playmaking tight ends, you probably need a
running back, you need the safety oposite Brandon Jels. But
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do do they go for receiver or are Is Valet
stepping over? And Mims finally, you know, we're finally to the
inflection point where oh, yeah, Marvin Mims is good, we
should use him more.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, well, I think we're at that inflection point. I
don't know that that means that there's a true number
one that you know is in the building for next year.
And one of the things, like one of the things
that I appreciate, like, you know, you've been around a
league long time, band like you sort of like into
it things. But then sometimes somebody says it so clearly
that you're like, yeah, okay, that's that's what I've that's
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always what I've sort of figured. But that makes a
lot of sense. And I think Sean Payton and George
Payton touched on this last year after they traded for
John Franklin Myers during the draft, and one of the
things they said was, we didn't like the depth of
the defensive line in the draft, and so we figured
that we would have to go the pro scouting road
road to address that. And as it turns out, they
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did it really well with a two year deal for
Malcolm Roach at a really modest number obviously, and then
a steal of a trade for JFM. And so, like
all of the I think you're exactly right on, like
tight end, running back, receiver. You need to fortify the
skill positions, and how you do that depends on how
you end up viewing the draft. Like, if you think
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you can address let's just say tight end and running
back in the draft, okay, great, be aggressive and free
agency and wide receiver if you like the options there,
whether it's you know, T Higgins, Chris Godwin, whatever, there's
no guarantee that you can land one of those guys.
But at least you can, you know, fish in that pond.
If you like the trade market at tight end, maybe
there is one, maybe there isn't one. Maybe you can
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address that and then you know, take a receiver earlier
in the draft. So it's all The puzzle is all.
The player acquisition puzzle obviously has several moving parts each
off season. But yeah, I mean, I think it's I
think I like the way they've done it so far.
They've built a good core on defense, They're pretty well set,
you know, up front, the line of scrimmage on both
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sides of the ball. And now this off season really
does feel like and you answer the quarterback question, least
you know, we think maybe they did, and so now
this off season is really outfit the skill positions around bow.
Nick doesn't mean they don't have other needs, but it
feels like a build up round bow off season coming
up for Denver.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I think that's the right way to do it. Talk
about Parker Gabriel at park and j Gabriel on Twitter.
I think it's the way you do it. You get
your quarterback in, you see what he can and can't do,
You see what he's what he's strong at what he's
weak at, and you bring in guys that help cater
to that. I've never liked the idea of plugging a
quarterback into already made offense because it's it's typically not
built for what it is that quarterback is capable of doing.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Oh do you like, Hale Williams, You got what.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I was picking up on a button down?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah? Yeah? No, And I mean I think, like, look
at the teams, look at the teams that have built
really well recently. I mean, what did what did what
did Detroit do when that group got there that you
know when you're talking about general manager and Dan Campbell,
Like they got the line of scrimmage figured out first,
and then they went about building out, you know, the
field positions. And that's why, like they knew they were
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ready to be in the spot where they could they
were plugging gaps rather than you know, building the entire
roster when they drafted Jamar Gibbs and Sam Laporta, like
that was what they needed. Green Bay had a roster,
a solid roster built and the quarterback question answered. And
that's why they zigged when everybody else zagged and paid
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top of the market money to a running back and
a safety in free agency. So like there's different ways
of taking a good roster, a solid roster, and turning
it into a fantastic roster. You can do it in
the draft, you can do it if you do it
right in free agency. But you can't eat the dessert
before you eat your vegetables. And so the Broncos have been,
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you know, scooping up their vegetables and all of that,
and now there's probably there's probably a little bit that's
like I think they get to have some fun on
the player acquisition side this offseason.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Looks like it and following the blueprint.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I mean, it's funny you mentioned Dan Campccess was gonna
get Dan Campbell learned it from Sean Dayton, and it's
the same thing. You know, start with the trenches, building
inside out and get the quarterback and then build around
the quarterback. And that's you know, that's sort of what
the Broncos are back to that blueprint as well, maybe
hopefully getting the same results is as the Detroit Lions
down the line. As we look at this thing coming
up this weekend, she's gonna have a lot of players out,
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I mean, just a ton of Mahomes, Chris Charles, Trent McDuffie,
Nick Bolton, Kareem Haunt, George Kurloftis Kelsey, on and on
and on. One of the things that I've I've said
that about this though, is you've got a couple of
guys that are playing for something. I mean, Carson Wentz
is playing for that, Sam Dart, Old Baker Mayfield, you know,
Smith Chance somewhere else. Samaj p Ryan is out for
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a revenge game, and he usually has one of these
games every you know, every year where he goes for
inexplicably one hundred and fifty yards or whatever. You know,
There's there's gonna be guys out here that are playing
for stuff. While I think the Broncos have a good chance,
I'm hoping that we're not sleepwalking this thing and get humbled.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think anyone in Denver's
locker room is sleepwalking in But I totally agree with you.
I mean, it's one of those where it's like, you know,
the clock can end up working against you really fast.
I mean, if you get off to a slow start,
and even in these situations, sometimes the team that really
needs to win doesn't, isn't, you know, full bore right
from the jump, And sometimes like it just sort of
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figure it out because one team really needs it and
one doesn't. It ends up going that way even if
it's not comfortable. But if you it's probab behind earlier,
you just if it's six to three late in the
second quarter or something, it just the screws really start
to tighten and the building gets tied in all of
that stuff, and so like doesn't mean you can't persevere
in that situation, which Denver would really need to. But
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I think the thing Ben, and I don't know, I mean,
these games can go so many different ways, but I
just it feels to me like if you get off
to a good start, then it's not all that long
before everybody looks around and says, yeah, listen, like great,
we're playing in two weeks, see you later. But if
it's close down the stretch, that's when the eyes start
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to get big on Kansas City sideline and you start
to look at it and go like that, let's knock
these guys out. That would be fun, you know, And
so you just don't just don't. You just don't want
that one on the table. I think for the last
twenty minutes of the game.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I tend to agree with you. Last question for me,
you know, pulse of this thing? Where are you feeling?
Where's your meter at right now? Are you feeling? What
do you think we ultimately have this weekend?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, I mean, I listen. I mean I've seen a
Denver team that, for the most part, has built some trust.
I think this year in terms of handling business in
the situations where they're supposed to handle business, last two
weeks has just been obviously a little bit rocky on
that front. I don't know. I have a little bit
of trepidation in terms of just confidently saying they're going
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to win. But I do at the end of the day, like,
I think they're going to get it done. And frankly
had be more surprised if they lost than if Stay
won comfortably. So I think they get it done. I
don't know if it's going to be pretty, but I
think this time next week we'll be talking about a
playoff game for the first time in a long time
round here.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It'd be nice to cover.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It'd be nice to cover playoff foot wall be my
first time covering playoff football of this market, so I
would certainly certainly be looking forward to Parker. I appreciate
it as always play Yeah Night, absolutely, Parker Gabriel, that
Parker J.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Gabriel on the Twitter. We got to hit a break,
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Speaker 1 (16:30):
Grant Smith's bestial thanks to Steve Atwater for joining us
in the first hour, Nick Cosmeider for joining us earlier,
Parker Gabriel joining us as well.
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Speaker 2 (17:05):
Six the top six NFL headline.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
What the Browns are back to being one of the
NFL's most embarrassing franchises.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
This weekend.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
They are three touchdowns nearly three touchdown underdogs to the
Baltimore Ravens, and Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Ravens faired by twenty and a half points.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
That is tied for the ninth biggest line since the
AFL NFL merger. The twenty thirteen Broncos actually hold that
record that they were faired by twenty eight against the
Jacksonville Jaguars that season. Do you think the Ravens will
be able to cover that nearly three touchdown spread against
the Browns?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Man, that's tough. That's tough.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I mean, it's even in the NFL, even with nobody
playing and you're playing for something and you're at home.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And that's tough. I still think they do it same, don't.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I don't think DTR can score enough points to hang
with Baltimore's offense.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, the play for I mean it's you know, it's
funny because the Browns were only able to put up
off any offensive numbers with Jameis Winston. You go black
and look at Cherry Judy look like at all world
wide receivers making the Pro Bowl based on three games
he played with Jameis Winston.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
As soon as Winston got benched, and they went with
Drin Thompson Robinson.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
He comes back with a twenty yard receiving performance on
more snaps than he had in any of the other games.
I just, man, I don't know. The Browns are a
mess right now. They know they're a mess right now.
They know they got one year, one more year of
dealing with this Watson thing before they can get rid
of him.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'm gonna go with the Ravens to cover two. Will Levis.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
The Tennessee Titans keep flipping back and forth with who
their starting quarterback is going to be this week.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It's fact to Will Levis.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Do you think the Titans are still trying to evaluate
Levis or at this point is this an effort to
try and tank and keep that number two overall?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Pick?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I think they're yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I think it doesn't matter. Honestly, neither quarterback gives them
the ability to If they'd already benched a guy and
then they bring it back, that tells you that they
probably think he gives you the better case to lose,
if we're being honest, because you won last Chace to
look at Will Levis and kind of kind of get
a look at things.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But at the end of the day. I mean, you've
seen what you've seen.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You've seen enough out of both these guys to know
what they are more important to what they aren't.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
And so that that's sort of the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Now you've got to make a decision with your Scalotsy
is gonna be s Your door is gonna be cam Ward.
You're gonna go to the free agency and look at
a course and wins that kind of thing. Maybe try
to make a play for a Sam Darnold, who knows.
You got to figure out what it is that you're
going to do going forward.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I don't think it matters at this point.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Are Dan Campbell and Kevin O'Connell the two coaches a
top the NFC North are currently tied in the Coach
of the Year odds the two front runners there.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Sorry, they're spraying up for.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
The number one seed in the NFC this week. Do
you think that matchup, along with determining who has home
field advantage throughout the playoffs, would determine who wins Coach
of the Year?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Maybe, you know, honestly, it's it's funny to me. I'm
to me, there are other eyes for Coach of the Year.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I sort of get it. I mean, Dan Campbell's name.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Has been in the thing, and you know he's front
and center because you know, he says fun stuff. He's
a fun guy to root for. Kevin O'Connell, I mean,
nobody expected it. And if you talking about nobody expecting
the Broncos, think nobody expect the Vikings to do anything.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
The Vikings guy just.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
As bad, if not worse odds in the Denver Broncos,
you know, earlier this year. And and now look at him.
I mean, you know, that's that's incredible. I think O'Connell
probably wins it, but there are other guys to to
look at. Why doesn't Andy Reid win it? Look what
they did? Look, I mean, look what they did. Look
at any close games they you know, Pat Mahomes has
leads the NFL and game when he drives this year,
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four quarter comebacks. You know, they played a lot of
close games. A lot of that's been on Andy Reid,
the coaching, and so you know, as suppose as we
hate to give the Chiefs anything, I think you got
to look into that. There's you know what what Dan
quinn has done for Washington. Nobody expected anything out of
what I do. But nobody else expected anything out of Washington,
So you know, everybody turned your ball caps backwards and
let's just hope that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Let's hope my guy DQ gets it. I love to
see that.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
We're actually rewarding some established quality coach.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Andy Rey didn't get it this year.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
To your point by koc Dan Campbell, Guys that have
been around doing great coae Flavor of the Year, the
Matt Naggies of the world that we looked at a
that yeah, that was astray.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
We're talking about the clown Halal Browns over there earlier,
so well, let's go right back to them.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
The Cleveland Browns are currently in possession of the third
pick in this year's draft.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
They also recently agreed.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
To a restructure situation with Deshaun Watson. They're a battle
quarterback who or do you think they'll target a quarterback
in the first round of this year's draft with their
top three pick.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I do believe that they will target a quarterback at
some point.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
But I think you can sort.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Of house money this thing because you recognize it's the
last year of the Seawan Watson any which way you
slice it. With that deal with the restructures that they've done.
They have to play them this year, they can't afford it.
But immediately after this year he done so. And to
be honest with you, depending on how he does in
training camp in earlier in the season, he might be
healthy yet active guy, stay away from the facility. Will
healthy scratch you just collect the check guy. Depending on
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how that goes. I do believe they'll look into something.
I don't believe they'll do it right at the top.
This isn't the.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Draft for that.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I mean, there's just no quarterbacks in this draft that
people are going gay ga over.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
No, no cam Ward going to Cleveland. I don't think so.
I mean, I don't think he fits that system. You know.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
To be honest with you, if you're going to put
him anywhere, he might be Tennessee. Like to me, that
feels like where he's gonna wind up just because of
what they what they want to do on offense.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Brian Callahan's going to be back, and I think he
his best fit is probably there.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Five.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Sam Darnold made some NFL history this past weekend. He
became the first quarterback in NFL history to win fourteen
games as the starter, with the new team in the
in the first season with that new team, Who do
you think will be the Vikings quarterback next season and
where do you think the loser to that battle ends
up next season.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I think both of them will be there. I think
both Sam Donald and J. J. Mccarth would be back
in Minnesota next year.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I think you get a Drew Brees Phil Rivers situation
and kind of go from there. I think they'll probably
franchise tag Sam Donald's give it one more year.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And see what you got.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Go from there, and if he happens to walk after
two years of doing that, you're either extending him big
time or you're you know, you're letting him walk and go.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Into the rookie. He'll know at that point what you've
got out of your rookie as well.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So I think you protect yourself and that the best
way to do that is to, you know, is to
do that with the franchise tag and go from there.
So I think both of will be there next year.
The question is who wins it after next year?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, I would be I think it'd be really interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
If they wind up going Sam Donald a long time.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
You know, they went through all the Kirk deaed Cap
to try and or not resigning him rather to get
on that rookie quarterback contract. And now you have such this,
such a great season from Sam Donald, I think it's
hard to pass up. Yeah, Bucky Brooks at least his
rankings of this year's top five rookie classes. He says
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Washington here guy dan Quinn has the best rookie class.
Philadelphia Eagles come in at number two, Rams at three,
Chargers at four, Packers at five. Broncos notably left off
despite some of their hits in the draft. Do you
think the Broncos were snubbed or is their class weaker
than those other five?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You know, I mean the Broncos had some contributors, but
meaning Abrams Train had one interception, only played four games
all year. Nick Garjulio didn't play a single game all year.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Vle was hurt early on.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I think if he'd been playing all year, you know,
the numbers would be better. Estimately only has two hundred
and seventy six.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yards and a touchdown on the season.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
You know, really that would hinge on bo Nicks and
five sacks out of Jonah Ellis because Troy Franklin's been
you know, he has twenty six receptions, two at fifty
one hours, two touchdowns, but it's not been good but ugly.
He's the least efficient receiver of the team by far. No,
I don't think they were snubbed at all. I think
there are things to like, but I think the focus
on bo Nix is what it's leaving everybody to say
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snubbed when reality you look at the class as a whole,
and they've had moderate contributors out out of the class.
There's some potential here. I mean, there's flashes. I think
Ellison's absolutely going to be a contributor. Abram's train looks
like a guy who's you know, who can be a
CB three or four in this league. On the roster estimate,
I don't know yet. Bailey's probably taken over the X
job next year from Courtland Sutton, and who knows when
the cartoon we don't We don't know anything about that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
So there's contributors here. I think.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I think George Peyton drafts incredibly well. I think he's
you know, I think he's phenomenal draft there. You go
back and look, you know what he's what he's managed
to bring to this roster and stock with this team
of talent. But no, I would not say. I wouldn't
say the Broncos were snubbed. In fact, there are other
classes I would even put in there further than the top.
But you you listed all five, there's probably five or
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six more I would put in before I even started
with to Broncos.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, there's not many egregious misses.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I don't think they found anybody where it's like this
guy just cannot play. But to your point, I don't
think they have the high end talent to sack up with,
you know, or even a Chargers class. For chargers, you know,
you're getting Joe walt En, Lad mcconky and yeah, looks like.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
An absolute stud.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You go back and you look at and this is
the thing because you look at the you look at
the Washington class, which I loved, by the way, I
thought they had a fantastic class. But this is another
class that a lot of it rests on the quarterback.
You know, Jade Daniels, the rest of this class. I mean,
Jerson Newton hasn't really done much. I mean he had
two sacks all season. Mike Sanders still looks looks pretty decent.
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He's got a pair of interception, so he looks like something.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Benson not really didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Get a chance to get in there because zach Ertz
was still bawling.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Brandon Coleman got in there on the offensive line, he
looked pretty good. Luke McCaffrey hasn't had a chance to
really get in there yet, only had eighteen receptions on
the season. And the other guys, I mean, they didn't
really contribute much. I think Baptist got got a sack
this year, but beyond that, I mean, Hampton was a
healthy scratcher, didn't didn't even play.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
So yeah, but where Bonnicks is, you know, a really
good rookie season.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Jayde Daniels is something we barely have seen before.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Where he's leading an elite NFL offense is that's that's
very rare.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, I mean Daniels finished, he's got thirty five hundred
yard plus yards, twenty five touchdowns to nine picks, and
that then he include the rushing stuff where he's got
another what eight hundred and some odd yards and was
it eight six touchdowns six touchdowns on the ground this year,
So he's you know, I mean, it's if you go
to base it on the quarterback and you're gonna put
that together, then you go to take the quarterback who's
got the severior numbers.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I think so. Again, I don't think the Bronckles were snubbed.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I think they had a good class. There are some,
you know, like the Troy Franklin thing. But you know,
the end of the day, I mean, you got what
three you got three players for sure on of this
Washington class, maybe a fourth. We'll see what Newton becomes
with a healthy season next year. So appreciate it on
the NFL six pack there, Zach Siegers.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Appreciate it. I always love doing that. You guys.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
New Year's you see making your resolutions, you sticking to them.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
I'm hoping to write more this New year. Fell out
a habit some with that, and then twenty twenty four
and want to get back get back on the back there,
and then twenty twenty five, get get some regular articles
out there.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I like this what about you? What about taking it
for granted? Podcast? When will I be able to listen?
That is the next episode.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That is my only New Year's resolution is starting that
back up and first episode will drop January thirteenth, which
will be the five year anniversary of when it started.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Wow. Yeah, it does not feel like it's been going
that long. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So I'm gonna have my brother on as I do
for the first episode of every year, chatting with him
this weekend, So can't wait for that. And then already
got a couple episodes in the hopper that I didn't
put out earlier this year because of you know, things
happening in this workplace, various different reasons, various different reasons.
But I excited to start that back up and get
back on the journey. Other than that, not making any
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New Year's resolution, so I won't disappoint myself, that's fair enough.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You know, I talked about trying to get healthier and
all that kind of stuff. I am proud to say
that I am three days fast food free, so I
have to be a record in your life food sobriety. Yeah,
I'm three days fast food free, so I'm Jones. And
if anybody's got a chicken sandwich, I'll kill for one.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, trying to you know, I'm just trying.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
To do it, trying to get healthier, lose a little
bit of wait in the right areas and uh, you know,
and see if I can. I mean, I'm forty four
years old. It's it's you know, I'm trying to It's
been a while. I mean in twenty twenty ten, I
was a US Army Master fitness trainer, and I am
so the opposite of that at this point now, just
out of shape, sloppy, you know, I could barely. I
did some push ups the other day to see how
many I could do in two minutes, and I got
to like thirty eight, which is horrible. I used to
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be able to do in the nineties to one hundred
and two minutes. Now I'm at thirty eight and I
was my arms were like violently shaking as I as
I'm doing this, like, I was like, God.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I got weak. Some anssistance he is the key.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Well, yeah, I mean the first thing is just to
get moving, fix the dial a little bit, get moving,
and then I'll start doing that. I'm kind of I
was going to join a gym, but I decided to
wait until the January gym people like go away as
I'm going to join the gym in February. Yeah, as
a new members, just to just to get all the
New Year's Resolution people out of the way.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's pretty smart because you know, by the by the
second week after January first, it's called like National quitters
Day or something. So yeah, mostil February hit clear out
a little bit, get.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
The normal guys back in there.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, somebody put out a study the other day something
like eighty eight percent of people don't make it to
January seventeenth for their resolution. Eighty eight percent seventeen days.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, you'll walk in February first.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It'll be like overall like just can't stick to whatever
it is they whatever goal.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
They set for themselves.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I think, you know, if you're gonna wait until December
thirty first to try and fix something, it's probably that
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I mean, it's fair, but sometimes a lot of guys
not necessarily waiting until December thirty. Like in my case,
it's just a good jumping off point right, It's.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
A good like I already knew. I knew back on
my birthday. My birthday. I think most people know my
birthday's the December twelfth.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Like I knew then that I wanted, Like I'm like, god,
I gotta get healthy, you know, Like I've got to
I've got to quit doing some of.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
The eating habits that I haven't get healthy. And I
knew then, but I didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
For me, I was like, you know what, I'll just
do it January one, I'm gonna eat this. You know,
I'm gonna eat and do this will allow me to
put a plan together and.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I can start. For you know, it's just a it's
an easy jumping off point. I think for most people,
I think that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
But also like Charles Barkley trying to give up diet
coke on January first, I.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I think, you know, have you already midnight? I'm just
go with the cap at midnight.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
There's no way he's quitting because that was those late
night NBA TNT broadcast.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
He's got to have his diet. That's what it was
tough like for me. For giving up soda and all
that kind of stuff. That was one of the things
that was really tough for me.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I did it.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I lasted what eight months I think, with no sodas,
no caffeine or whatever, and then I ended up going back.
I slipt on one and that was right back into it.
So that's another thing I'm trying to get.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Rid of too. So it was about the energy drinks. Yeah,
I know, I know I need too bad. I need
too bad. So that's that's all part of the plan.
I've got gold.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I don't have a resolution, but I got goals for
this year as far as getting healthy and all that
kind of stuff. And you know, by my birthday, by
my forty fifth birthday, I want to be back in
the shape that I was when I was thirty years old.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
How does your dragon's hoard of doctor Pepper in the
corner of the studio fit in to that?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Those are community uh zero sugar, doctor pepper and cream
sodas from like six years ago. Anybody who wants to
chance it can can do so. There from six years ago,
not really there from like a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yes, I don't even know if I guess I have
had the car for like six years. It's been a while.
Drank a couple of them last weekend. What's that cream?
So they tasted fine. I drink one of them because
he offered me one. I did not.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Tell him until after he drank it, so that he
would have refused it. So we haded to tell him
that had been sitting in my car for two years
in the trunk of my car because I just never get.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You know, never get back in there. So yeah, anyway,
five six, six, NMES zero. I had a couple of
questions come in. I want to get to you guys.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Uh can't have any qualms about see you being a
mirage after that by you beat down and the fact
that coach Proms won and seven against ranked opponents.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I mean, I think it's still a program on the
way up, and they're coming from a long, long, long,
long long ways down. You know, I think you're going
to have some growing pains next year because you're losing
two of the top five picks in the NFL draft,
if not two of the top three, if not, you know,
both of the top two.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So it's going to be hard to replace.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
But this roster's had serious problems, you know, even last
year when they went nine and three in the regular
season that those other two guys were just trying to
clean up. Next year, I think those roster holes will
be a lot less prominent and you might not need
the crazy star power to with you.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Do you think they.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Could take a step back before they take a step
forward with juju.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, but I think it'll be a minor one. I
think it'll be a minor one. I think that that was.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
A flawed team last year that got lucky to win
nine games. I think they'll be about the same next year.
Maybe the record takes a step.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Back small alrighty, well, let's go Broncos this weekend against
Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Buckle's Country to Night rolls on.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Okay, win,
Goose Country tonight, but old bride Grant Smith the dilemma
during the break. So we're trying to figure out some
of these some of these sports book cash out offers.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sometimes they sometimes they try to change you. They try
to they put the weave the money in front of
your face, trying to get you to take less money.
I don't know, Grant, I'm waffling.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
In the words of the Steve Miller band, take the
money and run, you think?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I think so just that night, every time I keep
going to push the button, I can't quite. I can't
quite do it. And uh, it's a it's a I
mean it's a decent amount of money, so it's more
than decent. I'm trying to be humble so I don't
get emails like I got earlier. Yeah, man, I think
you take it in this one. Yeah, I probably will.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
See I'm gonna play this one out till for for
a couple more hours and just kind of stare at
it for a little while and see what happens. Let's
put the Kwait cosper a hotline and bring on our guy,
Parker Gabriel At Parker Jay Gabril, Hey, Parker, are you
doing buddy.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I'm good. It's like, you know, you can you can't
go broke taking a propit then, and you know, sometimes
you don't need a whole lot of air yards to
move the ball down.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The you know that's true. However, in this case, this
is the difference between uh being Derek Carr and being
uh and being Patrick mahomes Like.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's it's that kind of difference.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, well, okay, then trying to be home.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean, it's it's decent, it's decent, it's it's nice,
but it could be way way nicer if I you know,
fingers crossed on this. Two of the legs are gonna catch.
It's the third leg that we're questionable on. So uh, anyway,
I'll get into all that stuff later. Five six, six
nights year olds and texta loaw, do you guys hear
your question is Parker Gabriel Parker.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Let's let's start off with.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I was just talking about the cosmetic from the athletic
and yeah, we were talking about the the culture that
that Sean Payton has established. Uh, certainly his has resurrected
this thing similar and I used the parallel, you know,
when John Fox came in and cleaned up the the
Josh McDaniels mess. Sean Payton has certainly come in and
clean up to Nate Hackett mess. And there's they're a
professional UH football team.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
A lot of youth on this team race out the
nine wins, expectations change, and.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Then we're so on a slide on the back end here.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know, we make some coaching hiccup against the Chargers
and as well as some execution stuff in the second
half debatable coaching hiccup, not going for two, playing for open,
playing for the tie, and over time against the Bengals
turned out to bite you. And now it's you're down
to it. You're out of parachutes, you're out of reserve shoots,
you're you're on in to Kansas City. You need to
win this and get in. How big is it for
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this football team and this culture to get this win
now versus how bad is it to not get it?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah? I think, I mean it's I don't think you
can overstate how big it is. I really don't. And
like you hear a lot of the well if you
just said you didn't pick them to win nine games,
and no, I didn't, like they're ahead of schedule. But
the thing is, if you don't finish this one off,
not only is it a bitter case, and you never know.
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Every NFL season is different. Like Sean Payton pointed out
today and he meant it in a good way, that
they've been among the healthiest team in the NFL again
this year, two straight years. And you can have the
best people and all that. It's like, you just are
not going to be at the top of that list
every single year. And so like there's all these things,
like a lot of the guys, coaches, players this week,
you hear a lot of how fragile even being in
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this position to get in is. In the NFL. It's
not a guarantee every year. There's turnover over every year,
and so starting like play it out. If they lose
and they don't get in, then you're starting next year
with nothing short of everything. Up to nine wins is like, yeah, yeah,
we've been here before. It doesn't mean you can't make
progress in the process of getting back to that point,
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but you're sort of like, if you go that far
and then it doesn't pay at least by getting in
the startover, it's a really long climb back to that
point and not saying I mean, you have no choice
but to try to do it. But the point is
you've just got to find a way to get in
and to at least experience the next thing this year,
to have something, you know, besides a bitter taste to
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chase next year.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, I think that's it.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And there's a there's a there's a chasm, a grand
canyon of difference between getting a taste of the playoffs.
Even if you get the Brake speat off you by Buffalo,
there's a vast difference between getting a taste of the
playoffs and ending the season on a three game skin.
We only needed one to clinch in terms of I'm
instilling my.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Culture, I'm getting buy in.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
There.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
There's a galaxy of difference between those two outcomes.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah, there is. And I think part of the like
part of the three game slide thing is like if
you look at the schedule, you know, every this this
was a schedule where you know, depending on what your
expectations were for the Broncos, like, I think everybody had
the same parts of the calendar, you know, circled and obviously,
like some teams are end up being way different than
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you think they're going to be Like a win against
the Jets looks a lot different now than it did
in Week three or Week four, But like, you know,
everybody knew nine and ten on the road in Baltimore
and Kansas City was going to be a bear, and
everybody knew the finishing kick was tough, and so like,
it's one thing to lose a couple of games, you know,
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they feel huge because they were just all you got
to do is win one and get in. I think
if they win on Sunday, the other thing that will
happen is you'll look at it and say, like they
went ten and seven, and yeah, they were one and
three down the stretch, but they they played a couple
of teams that were really playing well at the time
they played them, and they had chances to win even
those two losses. The complexion of them looks a lot
(05:28):
different based on the outcome of Sunday's game. And so yeah,
I mean it just it tilts the entire thing pretty
much all the way one way or the other, even
though like in the grand scheme of things, that may
not be fair, but that's the way it's gonna feel,
you know, depending on how it goes someday, Well.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That segues into what I want to do, because that
is one of those things where it isn't fair. You
know that there's a sliding scale on expectation, right. If
you told anybody in this fan base, and I've told
just everybody, but I have a conversation with you as well,
so anybody's fan base during training camps, this team was
going to get, you know, be on the verge of
making the playoffs. They just need to win their last
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game and they'd make the playoffs. This year when the
book had them at five and a half wins, you know,
bo Nicks was looking, you know, at his floor like
a top half of the league's starter. If you told
me those things to start the season, I think everybody
would have make ecstatic. But now here we are at
the end of the season and we've seen what we've seen,
and if they lose this game, I think it is
a soul crushing defeat for the city definitely.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And I use I use this analogy a lot. But
if you're you know, every thirteen seed in the NCAA tournament,
if you told their fan base, hey, you're going to
be up five, you know you're going to be within
a couple points of at the under four time out
in the first round of the tournament. Every single person's
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going to be like, yep, I'll take that. But then
when you actually get to that moment and you're up
five with three minutes to go, it brutal if you
lose that game because you made it to that point.
It doesn't matter whether people thought you were going to
make it that point, or whether you should be at
that point, or what the factors were, whether it was
whether it was fluky or whether you really did hit
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you know, a lot hit you know, a couple of
home runs in free agency, and you think you found
your guy at quarterback and you got more than you
thought you would get out of you know, a bunch
of different positions, Like it doesn't matter how you got there.
Once you're in that spot, like you either get the
job done or you don't. And that's like it is
a Categorically it's a good thing for the franchise and
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for the fan base that they found their way to
this spot in a year where a lot of people
didn't think they would. But that doesn't mean that it's
going to be any less disappointing. If from here they
come up.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Short, right, and in that sliding scale something I termed
or I called earlier the wee.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
You call it the Larry Coker effect, right, because.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You know, you have Miami and they had they were
winning championships and everything else. Larry Coker takes over and
they're so used to winning that even eleven and ten
win seasons was good enough for the guy you got fired,
you know, And so that's.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
That's sort of the thing success exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, yeah, is that success begets the expectation of success.
And so that's where we go. I think the clock
starts on Sean Payton next year. I think that you're
paying eighteen million dollars a year, and I think that
if you don't make the playoffs this year, it's sole
crushing for the city. But from the ownership perspective, you've
been playing with house money this year. Next year is
when it starts to count and the window on Bodex
officially opens, and that's where you're going to start being
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expected to produce results as we as we look forward
to next season, this.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Team's going to have to make some choice of some decisions.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You've got nick, butto to pay that's that's got to
come up, and that's going to be a big one.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Zach Allen's got to be top back off.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
There's no guaranteed money in his deal coming up, you know,
And then you're probably moving on from guys like DJ
Jones and Courtland Sutton after you've already topped off Bowls
and minors and all the other guys you've topped off
this year. As we look at this, obviously you're going
to go to the draft for some of this stuff.
You need a playmaking tight ends, you probably need a
running back, you need the safety oposite Brandon Jels. But
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do do they go for receiver or are Is Valet
stepping over? And Mims finally, you know, we're finally to the
inflection point where oh, yeah, Marvin Mims is good, we
should use him more.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, well, I think we're at that inflection point. I
don't know that that means that there's a true number
one that you know is in the building for next year.
And one of the things, like one of the things
that I appreciate, like, you know, you've been around a
league long time, band like you sort of like into
it things. But then sometimes somebody says it so clearly
that you're like, yeah, okay, that's that's what I've that's
(09:34):
always what I've sort of figured. But that makes a
lot of sense. And I think Sean Payton and George
Payton touched on this last year after they traded for
John Franklin Myers during the draft, and one of the
things they said was, we didn't like the depth of
the defensive line in the draft, and so we figured
that we would have to go the pro scouting road
road to address that. And as it turns out, they
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did it really well with a two year deal for
Malcolm Roach at a really modest number obviously, and then
a steal of a trade for JFM. And so, like
all of the I think you're exactly right on, like
tight end, running back, receiver. You need to fortify the
skill positions, and how you do that depends on how
you end up viewing the draft. Like, if you think
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you can address let's just say tight end and running
back in the draft, okay, great, be aggressive and free
agency and wide receiver if you like the options there,
whether it's you know, T Higgins, Chris Godwin, whatever, there's
no guarantee that you can land one of those guys.
But at least you can, you know, fish in that pond.
If you like the trade market at tight end, maybe
there is one, maybe there isn't one. Maybe you can
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address that and then you know, take a receiver earlier
in the draft. So it's all The puzzle is all.
The player acquisition puzzle obviously has several moving parts each
off season. But yeah, I mean, I think it's I
think I like the way they've done it so far.
They've built a good core on defense, They're pretty well set,
you know, up front, the line of scrimmage on both
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sides of the ball. And now this off season really
does feel like and you answer the quarterback question, least
you know, we think maybe they did, and so now
this off season is really outfit the skill positions around bow.
Nick doesn't mean they don't have other needs, but it
feels like a build up round bow off season coming
up for Denver.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I think that's the right way to do it. Talk
about Parker Gabriel at park and j Gabriel on Twitter.
I think it's the way you do it. You get
your quarterback in, you see what he can and can't do,
You see what he's what he's strong at what he's
weak at, and you bring in guys that help cater
to that. I've never liked the idea of plugging a
quarterback into already made offense because it's it's typically not
built for what it is that quarterback is capable of doing.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Oh do you like, Hale Williams, You got what.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I was picking up on a button down?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah? Yeah? No, And I mean I think, like, look
at the teams, look at the teams that have built
really well recently. I mean, what did what did what
did Detroit do when that group got there that you
know when you're talking about general manager and Dan Campbell,
Like they got the line of scrimmage figured out first,
and then they went about building out, you know, the
field positions. And that's why, like they knew they were
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ready to be in the spot where they could they
were plugging gaps rather than you know, building the entire
roster when they drafted Jamar Gibbs and Sam Laporta, like
that was what they needed. Green Bay had a roster,
a solid roster built and the quarterback question answered. And
that's why they zigged when everybody else zagged and paid
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top of the market money to a running back and
a safety in free agency. So like there's different ways
of taking a good roster, a solid roster, and turning
it into a fantastic roster. You can do it in
the draft, you can do it if you do it
right in free agency. But you can't eat the dessert
before you eat your vegetables. And so the Broncos have been,
(12:53):
you know, scooping up their vegetables and all of that,
and now there's probably there's probably a little bit that's
like I think they get to have some fun on
the player acquisition side this offseason.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Looks like it and following the blueprint.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I mean, it's funny you mentioned Dan Campccess was gonna
get Dan Campbell learned it from Sean Dayton, and it's
the same thing. You know, start with the trenches, building
inside out and get the quarterback and then build around
the quarterback. And that's you know, that's sort of what
the Broncos are back to that blueprint as well, maybe
hopefully getting the same results is as the Detroit Lions
down the line. As we look at this thing coming
up this weekend, she's gonna have a lot of players out,
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I mean, just a ton of Mahomes, Chris Charles, Trent McDuffie,
Nick Bolton, Kareem Haunt, George Kurloftis Kelsey, on and on
and on. One of the things that I've I've said
that about this though, is you've got a couple of
guys that are playing for something. I mean, Carson Wentz
is playing for that, Sam Dart, Old Baker Mayfield, you know,
Smith Chance somewhere else. Samaj p Ryan is out for
(13:44):
a revenge game, and he usually has one of these
games every you know, every year where he goes for
inexplicably one hundred and fifty yards or whatever. You know,
There's there's gonna be guys out here that are playing
for stuff. While I think the Broncos have a good chance,
I'm hoping that we're not sleepwalking this thing and get humbled.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think anyone in Denver's
locker room is sleepwalking in But I totally agree with you.
I mean, it's one of those where it's like, you know,
the clock can end up working against you really fast.
I mean, if you get off to a slow start,
and even in these situations, sometimes the team that really
needs to win doesn't, isn't, you know, full bore right
from the jump, And sometimes like it just sort of
(14:21):
figure it out because one team really needs it and
one doesn't. It ends up going that way even if
it's not comfortable. But if you it's probab behind earlier,
you just if it's six to three late in the
second quarter or something, it just the screws really start
to tighten and the building gets tied in all of
that stuff, and so like doesn't mean you can't persevere
in that situation, which Denver would really need to. But
(14:44):
I think the thing Ben, and I don't know, I mean,
these games can go so many different ways, but I
just it feels to me like if you get off
to a good start, then it's not all that long
before everybody looks around and says, yeah, listen, like great,
we're playing in two weeks, see you later. But if
it's close down the stretch, that's when the eyes start
(15:05):
to get big on Kansas City sideline and you start
to look at it and go like that, let's knock
these guys out. That would be fun, you know, And
so you just don't just don't. You just don't want
that one on the table. I think for the last
twenty minutes of the game.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I tend to agree with you. Last question for me,
you know, pulse of this thing? Where are you feeling?
Where's your meter at right now? Are you feeling? What
do you think we ultimately have this weekend?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, I mean, I listen. I mean I've seen a
Denver team that, for the most part, has built some trust.
I think this year in terms of handling business in
the situations where they're supposed to handle business, last two
weeks has just been obviously a little bit rocky on
that front. I don't know. I have a little bit
of trepidation in terms of just confidently saying they're going
(15:51):
to win. But I do at the end of the day, like,
I think they're going to get it done. And frankly
had be more surprised if they lost than if Stay
won comfortably. So I think they get it done. I
don't know if it's going to be pretty, but I
think this time next week we'll be talking about a
playoff game for the first time in a long time
round here.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It'd be nice to cover.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It'd be nice to cover playoff foot wall be my
first time covering playoff football of this market, so I
would certainly certainly be looking forward to Parker. I appreciate
it as always play Yeah Night, absolutely, Parker Gabriel, that
Parker J.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Gabriel on the Twitter. We got to hit a break,
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Speaker 2 (17:05):
Six the top six NFL headline.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
What the Browns are back to being one of the
NFL's most embarrassing franchises.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
This weekend.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
They are three touchdowns nearly three touchdown underdogs to the
Baltimore Ravens, and Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Ravens faired by twenty and a half points.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
That is tied for the ninth biggest line since the
AFL NFL merger. The twenty thirteen Broncos actually hold that
record that they were faired by twenty eight against the
Jacksonville Jaguars that season. Do you think the Ravens will
be able to cover that nearly three touchdown spread against
the Browns?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Man, that's tough. That's tough.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I mean, it's even in the NFL, even with nobody
playing and you're playing for something and you're at home.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And that's tough. I still think they do it same, don't.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I don't think DTR can score enough points to hang
with Baltimore's offense.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, the play for I mean it's you know, it's
funny because the Browns were only able to put up
off any offensive numbers with Jameis Winston. You go black
and look at Cherry Judy look like at all world
wide receivers making the Pro Bowl based on three games
he played with Jameis Winston.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
As soon as Winston got benched, and they went with
Drin Thompson Robinson.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
He comes back with a twenty yard receiving performance on
more snaps than he had in any of the other games.
I just, man, I don't know. The Browns are a
mess right now. They know they're a mess right now.
They know they got one year, one more year of
dealing with this Watson thing before they can get rid
of him.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'm gonna go with the Ravens to cover two. Will Levis.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
The Tennessee Titans keep flipping back and forth with who
their starting quarterback is going to be this week.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It's fact to Will Levis.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Do you think the Titans are still trying to evaluate
Levis or at this point is this an effort to
try and tank and keep that number two overall?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Pick?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I think they're yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I think it doesn't matter. Honestly, neither quarterback gives them
the ability to If they'd already benched a guy and
then they bring it back, that tells you that they
probably think he gives you the better case to lose,
if we're being honest, because you won last Chace to
look at Will Levis and kind of kind of get
a look at things.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But at the end of the day. I mean, you've
seen what you've seen.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You've seen enough out of both these guys to know
what they are more important to what they aren't.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
And so that that's sort of the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Now you've got to make a decision with your Scalotsy
is gonna be s Your door is gonna be cam Ward.
You're gonna go to the free agency and look at
a course and wins that kind of thing. Maybe try
to make a play for a Sam Darnold, who knows.
You got to figure out what it is that you're
going to do going forward.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I don't think it matters at this point.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Are Dan Campbell and Kevin O'Connell the two coaches a
top the NFC North are currently tied in the Coach
of the Year odds the two front runners there.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Sorry, they're spraying up for.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
The number one seed in the NFC this week. Do
you think that matchup, along with determining who has home
field advantage throughout the playoffs, would determine who wins Coach
of the Year?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Maybe, you know, honestly, it's it's funny to me. I'm
to me, there are other eyes for Coach of the Year.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I sort of get it. I mean, Dan Campbell's name.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Has been in the thing, and you know he's front
and center because you know, he says fun stuff. He's
a fun guy to root for. Kevin O'Connell, I mean,
nobody expected it. And if you talking about nobody expecting
the Broncos, think nobody expect the Vikings to do anything.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
The Vikings guy just.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
As bad, if not worse odds in the Denver Broncos,
you know, earlier this year. And and now look at him.
I mean, you know, that's that's incredible. I think O'Connell
probably wins it, but there are other guys to to
look at. Why doesn't Andy Reid win it? Look what
they did? Look, I mean, look what they did. Look
at any close games they you know, Pat Mahomes has
leads the NFL and game when he drives this year,
(20:39):
four quarter comebacks. You know, they played a lot of
close games. A lot of that's been on Andy Reid,
the coaching, and so you know, as suppose as we
hate to give the Chiefs anything, I think you got
to look into that. There's you know what what Dan
quinn has done for Washington. Nobody expected anything out of
what I do. But nobody else expected anything out of Washington,
So you know, everybody turned your ball caps backwards and
let's just hope that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Let's hope my guy DQ gets it. I love to
see that.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
We're actually rewarding some established quality coach.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Andy Rey didn't get it this year.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
To your point by koc Dan Campbell, Guys that have
been around doing great coae Flavor of the Year, the
Matt Naggies of the world that we looked at a
that yeah, that was astray.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
We're talking about the clown Halal Browns over there earlier,
so well, let's go right back to them.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
The Cleveland Browns are currently in possession of the third
pick in this year's draft.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
They also recently agreed.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
To a restructure situation with Deshaun Watson. They're a battle
quarterback who or do you think they'll target a quarterback
in the first round of this year's draft with their
top three pick.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I do believe that they will target a quarterback at
some point.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
But I think you can sort.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Of house money this thing because you recognize it's the
last year of the Seawan Watson any which way you
slice it. With that deal with the restructures that they've done.
They have to play them this year, they can't afford it.
But immediately after this year he done so. And to
be honest with you, depending on how he does in
training camp in earlier in the season, he might be
healthy yet active guy, stay away from the facility. Will
healthy scratch you just collect the check guy. Depending on
(22:10):
how that goes. I do believe they'll look into something.
I don't believe they'll do it right at the top.
This isn't the.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Draft for that.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I mean, there's just no quarterbacks in this draft that
people are going gay ga over.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
No, no cam Ward going to Cleveland. I don't think so.
I mean, I don't think he fits that system. You know.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
To be honest with you, if you're going to put
him anywhere, he might be Tennessee. Like to me, that
feels like where he's gonna wind up just because of
what they what they want to do on offense.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Brian Callahan's going to be back, and I think he
his best fit is probably there.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Five.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Sam Darnold made some NFL history this past weekend. He
became the first quarterback in NFL history to win fourteen
games as the starter, with the new team in the
in the first season with that new team, Who do
you think will be the Vikings quarterback next season and
where do you think the loser to that battle ends
up next season.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I think both of them will be there. I think
both Sam Donald and J. J. Mccarth would be back
in Minnesota next year.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I think you get a Drew Brees Phil Rivers situation
and kind of go from there. I think they'll probably
franchise tag Sam Donald's give it one more year.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And see what you got.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Go from there, and if he happens to walk after
two years of doing that, you're either extending him big
time or you're you know, you're letting him walk and go.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Into the rookie. He'll know at that point what you've
got out of your rookie as well.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So I think you protect yourself and that the best
way to do that is to, you know, is to
do that with the franchise tag and go from there.
So I think both of will be there next year.
The question is who wins it after next year?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, I would be I think it'd be really interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
If they wind up going Sam Donald a long time.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
You know, they went through all the Kirk deaed Cap
to try and or not resigning him rather to get
on that rookie quarterback contract. And now you have such this,
such a great season from Sam Donald, I think it's
hard to pass up. Yeah, Bucky Brooks at least his
rankings of this year's top five rookie classes. He says
(24:05):
Washington here guy dan Quinn has the best rookie class.
Philadelphia Eagles come in at number two, Rams at three,
Chargers at four, Packers at five. Broncos notably left off
despite some of their hits in the draft. Do you
think the Broncos were snubbed or is their class weaker
than those other five?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You know, I mean the Broncos had some contributors, but
meaning Abrams Train had one interception, only played four games
all year. Nick Garjulio didn't play a single game all year.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Vle was hurt early on.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I think if he'd been playing all year, you know,
the numbers would be better. Estimately only has two hundred
and seventy six.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yards and a touchdown on the season.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
You know, really that would hinge on bo Nicks and
five sacks out of Jonah Ellis because Troy Franklin's been
you know, he has twenty six receptions, two at fifty
one hours, two touchdowns, but it's not been good but ugly.
He's the least efficient receiver of the team by far. No,
I don't think they were snubbed at all. I think
there are things to like, but I think the focus
on bo Nix is what it's leaving everybody to say
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snubbed when reality you look at the class as a whole,
and they've had moderate contributors out out of the class.
There's some potential here. I mean, there's flashes. I think
Ellison's absolutely going to be a contributor. Abram's train looks
like a guy who's you know, who can be a
CB three or four in this league. On the roster estimate,
I don't know yet. Bailey's probably taken over the X
job next year from Courtland Sutton, and who knows when
the cartoon we don't We don't know anything about that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
So there's contributors here. I think.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I think George Peyton drafts incredibly well. I think he's
you know, I think he's phenomenal draft there. You go
back and look, you know what he's what he's managed
to bring to this roster and stock with this team
of talent. But no, I would not say. I wouldn't
say the Broncos were snubbed. In fact, there are other
classes I would even put in there further than the top.
But you you listed all five, there's probably five or
(25:47):
six more I would put in before I even started
with to Broncos.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, there's not many egregious misses.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I don't think they found anybody where it's like this
guy just cannot play. But to your point, I don't
think they have the high end talent to sack up with,
you know, or even a Chargers class. For chargers, you know,
you're getting Joe walt En, Lad mcconky and yeah, looks like.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
An absolute stud.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You go back and you look at and this is
the thing because you look at the you look at
the Washington class, which I loved, by the way, I
thought they had a fantastic class. But this is another
class that a lot of it rests on the quarterback.
You know, Jade Daniels, the rest of this class. I mean,
Jerson Newton hasn't really done much. I mean he had
two sacks all season. Mike Sanders still looks looks pretty decent.
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He's got a pair of interception, so he looks like something.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Benson not really didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Get a chance to get in there because zach Ertz
was still bawling.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Brandon Coleman got in there on the offensive line, he
looked pretty good. Luke McCaffrey hasn't had a chance to
really get in there yet, only had eighteen receptions on
the season. And the other guys, I mean, they didn't
really contribute much. I think Baptist got got a sack
this year, but beyond that, I mean, Hampton was a
healthy scratcher, didn't didn't even play.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
So yeah, but where Bonnicks is, you know, a really
good rookie season.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Jayde Daniels is something we barely have seen before.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Where he's leading an elite NFL offense is that's that's
very rare.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, I mean Daniels finished, he's got thirty five hundred
yard plus yards, twenty five touchdowns to nine picks, and
that then he include the rushing stuff where he's got
another what eight hundred and some odd yards and was
it eight six touchdowns six touchdowns on the ground this year,
So he's you know, I mean, it's if you go
to base it on the quarterback and you're gonna put
that together, then you go to take the quarterback who's
got the severior numbers.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I think so. Again, I don't think the Bronckles were snubbed.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I think they had a good class. There are some,
you know, like the Troy Franklin thing. But you know,
the end of the day, I mean, you got what
three you got three players for sure on of this
Washington class, maybe a fourth. We'll see what Newton becomes
with a healthy season next year. So appreciate it on
the NFL six pack there, Zach Siegers.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Appreciate it. I always love doing that. You guys.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
New Year's you see making your resolutions, you sticking to them.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
I'm hoping to write more this New year. Fell out
a habit some with that, and then twenty twenty four
and want to get back get back on the back there,
and then twenty twenty five, get get some regular articles
out there.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I like this what about you? What about taking it
for granted? Podcast? When will I be able to listen?
That is the next episode.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That is my only New Year's resolution is starting that
back up and first episode will drop January thirteenth, which
will be the five year anniversary of when it started.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Wow. Yeah, it does not feel like it's been going
that long. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So I'm gonna have my brother on as I do
for the first episode of every year, chatting with him
this weekend, So can't wait for that. And then already
got a couple episodes in the hopper that I didn't
put out earlier this year because of you know, things
happening in this workplace, various different reasons, various different reasons.
But I excited to start that back up and get
back on the journey. Other than that, not making any
(28:43):
New Year's resolution, so I won't disappoint myself, that's fair enough.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You know, I talked about trying to get healthier and
all that kind of stuff. I am proud to say
that I am three days fast food free, so I
have to be a record in your life food sobriety. Yeah,
I'm three days fast food free, so I'm Jones. And
if anybody's got a chicken sandwich, I'll kill for one.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, trying to you know, I'm just trying.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
To do it, trying to get healthier, lose a little
bit of wait in the right areas and uh, you know,
and see if I can. I mean, I'm forty four
years old. It's it's you know, I'm trying to It's
been a while. I mean in twenty twenty ten, I
was a US Army Master fitness trainer, and I am
so the opposite of that at this point now, just
out of shape, sloppy, you know, I could barely. I
did some push ups the other day to see how
many I could do in two minutes, and I got
to like thirty eight, which is horrible. I used to
(29:27):
be able to do in the nineties to one hundred
and two minutes. Now I'm at thirty eight and I
was my arms were like violently shaking as I as
I'm doing this, like, I was like, God.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I got weak. Some anssistance he is the key.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Well, yeah, I mean the first thing is just to
get moving, fix the dial a little bit, get moving,
and then I'll start doing that. I'm kind of I
was going to join a gym, but I decided to
wait until the January gym people like go away as
I'm going to join the gym in February. Yeah, as
a new members, just to just to get all the
New Year's Resolution people out of the way.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
That's pretty smart because you know, by the by the
second week after January first, it's called like National quitters
Day or something. So yeah, mostil February hit clear out
a little bit, get.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
The normal guys back in there.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, somebody put out a study the other day something
like eighty eight percent of people don't make it to
January seventeenth for their resolution. Eighty eight percent seventeen days.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, you'll walk in February first.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It'll be like overall like just can't stick to whatever
it is they whatever goal.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
They set for themselves.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I think, you know, if you're gonna wait until December
thirty first to try and fix something, it's probably that
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I mean, it's fair, but sometimes a lot of guys
not necessarily waiting until December thirty. Like in my case,
it's just a good jumping off point right, It's.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
A good like I already knew. I knew back on
my birthday. My birthday. I think most people know my
birthday's the December twelfth.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Like I knew then that I wanted, Like I'm like, god,
I gotta get healthy, you know, Like I've got to
I've got to quit doing some of.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
The eating habits that I haven't get healthy. And I
knew then, but I didn't.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
For me, I was like, you know what, I'll just
do it January one, I'm gonna eat this. You know,
I'm gonna eat and do this will allow me to
put a plan together and.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I can start. For you know, it's just a it's
an easy jumping off point. I think for most people,
I think that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
But also like Charles Barkley trying to give up diet
coke on January first, I.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I think, you know, have you already midnight? I'm just
go with the cap at midnight.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
There's no way he's quitting because that was those late
night NBA TNT broadcast.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
He's got to have his diet. That's what it was
tough like for me. For giving up soda and all
that kind of stuff. That was one of the things
that was really tough for me.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I did it.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I lasted what eight months I think, with no sodas,
no caffeine or whatever, and then I ended up going back.
I slipt on one and that was right back into it.
So that's another thing I'm trying to get.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Rid of too. So it was about the energy drinks. Yeah,
I know, I know I need too bad. I need
too bad. So that's that's all part of the plan.
I've got gold.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I don't have a resolution, but I got goals for
this year as far as getting healthy and all that
kind of stuff. And you know, by my birthday, by
my forty fifth birthday, I want to be back in
the shape that I was when I was thirty years old.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
How does your dragon's hoard of doctor Pepper in the
corner of the studio fit in to that?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Those are community uh zero sugar, doctor pepper and cream
sodas from like six years ago. Anybody who wants to
chance it can can do so. There from six years ago,
not really there from like a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yes, I don't even know if I guess I have
had the car for like six years. It's been a while.
Drank a couple of them last weekend. What's that cream?
So they tasted fine. I drink one of them because
he offered me one. I did not.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Tell him until after he drank it, so that he
would have refused it. So we haded to tell him
that had been sitting in my car for two years
in the trunk of my car because I just never get.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
You know, never get back in there. So yeah, anyway,
five six, six, NMES zero. I had a couple of
questions come in. I want to get to you guys.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Uh can't have any qualms about see you being a
mirage after that by you beat down and the fact
that coach Proms won and seven against ranked opponents.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I mean, I think it's still a program on the
way up, and they're coming from a long, long, long,
long long ways down. You know, I think you're going
to have some growing pains next year because you're losing
two of the top five picks in the NFL draft,
if not two of the top three, if not, you know,
both of the top two.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So it's going to be hard to replace.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
But this roster's had serious problems, you know, even last
year when they went nine and three in the regular
season that those other two guys were just trying to
clean up. Next year, I think those roster holes will
be a lot less prominent and you might not need
the crazy star power to with you.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Do you think they.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Could take a step back before they take a step
forward with juju.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, but I think it'll be a minor one. I
think it'll be a minor one. I think that that was.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
A flawed team last year that got lucky to win
nine games. I think they'll be about the same next year.
Maybe the record takes a step.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Back small alrighty, well, let's go Broncos this weekend against
Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Buckle's Country to Night rolls on.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Okay, win,
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