01-08-25 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
See you buff Men's basketball edition, buff falling to Central Florida.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Final score seventy five, seventy four. Buffs had last possession
of that unable to.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Get it done and now a bus had a three
point lead at the half thirty seven thirty four, but
closing out the second half forty one to thirty seven
run by UCF and just just getting it done on
free throws there for Central Florida.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Five six six nine zeros. Text line, you gonna give
me all of the conversation. Nick Ferguson is here, so
for what's going on? Man? Fun time? No see oh man.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
You know we gotta playoff game coming up here. You
don't really the chance to talk about that against the
Buffalo Bills. Denver Broncos are gotta be taking one Buffalo
on Sunday, And you know, it's kind of a it's
interesting to kind of put your ear to the ground
a little bit around town and sort of hear how
people are discussing it, you know, when you're out at
the restaurants, the coffee shops and hearing the conversations of

(00:55):
the background everything from you know, they got to win
this thing, which is a tall task to there's no
way they win this thing. To it doesn't matter. We're
playing with house money. Where do you come down on
those kinds of conversations?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
For me, everyone has their frame of thought as far
as what they expect to happen with the team, and
rightfully so, everyone has their own own opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I look at it from this standpoint and enjoy the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
No one expected you to be here, and I know
if you talk to anyone inside the building or some
of the players, they will tell you that they expected
to be here. And I would say that Leadi at
the start of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
It might not have been.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
As accurate, but it is here, and they put themselves
in a position to go on the road in Buffalo,
a place that it is tough to play, not just
from the weather standpoint band but just from an atmosphere
standpoint as well, and they're going to try to steal
the win. So it doesn't make a difference how everything

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started everyone's particular viewpoints. The only thing that matters is
that they're now here. And I think it's important that everyone.
I don't care who you are, and I'll say this,
there are some people, but you can't change your mind
and they're gonna be negative no matter what. So we're
not trying to change the minds of those individuals. But
I'm just saying, embrace the fact that the team is

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where they are right now.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now have fun with this, whether you win or not.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
You made the playoffs on a team that was projected
to win five maybe six games by some of these
know it all.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Ye know it alls there some of your friends in Vegas. Hey, look,
I take advantage of them. I've paded my pocket on
that one. I projected them at nine wins and I
was happy to be wrong with that.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I you know, as I look at this thing, I
think there's some things to take away from this season.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
You looks like it looks like you found the quarterback.
I don't want to jump to it too quickly.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Then that it looks like they found a quarterback, then
you could jump well left.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Here You've had the same people comparing CJ.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Stroud past Ma Hoomes and then you know, you get
team's getting off season a tape and we sort of
see so at the same time they were telling me
Bryce Young was a bust, and all of a sudden,
he looks you know, he looks like a purpose so yeah,
he looks like at minimum and NFL starter in this league.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
And that's that's what I'll say. Whether or not he's
the franchise.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Guy, whether or not he's the next fifteen year guy,
that's what we'll find out over the next two to
three seasons.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
As the window officially opens.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Next year, your dead cap move from RUSS goes from
fifty two down to about thirty two.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It'll free up a little bit of space. But you
do have some.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
People you gotta pat You got Nick Bonito coming up,
You got Zach Allen coming up, John Franklin Myers, you know,
you got to figure out the Courtland Sutton situation. You
gotta figure out the safety position opposite Brandon Jones.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
What's gonna do there long term? Help me figure out
and save the position. If you want bring justin Beck.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Is the only what you're doing with all what you're doing, okay,
ye For me, I would say if you could do that, obviously,
I'm a fan of it.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
If you can't, then you have to go.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Out and you have to improve that position, because I
thought by now JL Skinner would have made a move.
I don't know what's going on inside the building, but
I know the ability that he has as a player,
and for some reason it just hasn't We haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
But I do know to.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Get this team where they need to, you need to
have competition at every single position, and I would definitely
like to see the Broncos have safety I guess competition
at the safety position.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, I mean Branda Jonson's come in and absolutely taking
the starting job there.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean, that's that thing. But PJ. You know, he
might have been better as a six man, might have
been better coming off the bench, you know, spot spot duty,
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
As we look back on that this season, on the
offensive side of the ball, you gotta find yourself a
game breaker tight end. You got to figure out the
running back room. And oh, by the way, all your
quarterbacks except for Knicks or off contract after this year,
so you're gonna have to figure out the backup quarterback
position as well.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Are you re upping you know the stidwater as a
spark did water because reminds me of Teddy Bridgewater water.
Did Water.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
You know, as far as that is concerned, you don't
have to put a lot of money into Zach Wilson,
And I'm okay, if the Broncos were to bring him back,
obviously you try to see if you can stead him back.
If Stanton wants to walk go somewhere else, there's gonna
be other adequate options out there as well. And you

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said something, how did you put as far as a
tight end positionker?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Okay, you need you need to find a playmaker.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
See I know of a playmaker, but I don't know
if the Broncos will be able to get this particular playmaker.
I hope that they can based on what brock Bauers,
a guy.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Who I like coming out of Georgia.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
What he what he's, what he did in his first year,
that that is a pivotal position for this Broncos offense
and bo Knicks and you know.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
We meet this early.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
So I'm just gonna toss it out Tallawarren from Penn
State that that that's.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
My first choice. That's my first choice, so.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
We can get I don't think he's gonna be there
where the Broncos are picking up. I don't think he
or the kid from Michigan to be there with a
man just just just just live.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yes, Doctor Nick Ferguson, PhD.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yes, I would love to see that because when you
think about where Bo has been effective throwing the ball
across the field, that is one area of the field.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
The Broncos have yet to attack on.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
A consistent basis so much so the go to route
to attack down the middle it's called a sudden yeah,
reduced split left or right.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
That's the way they attack. And I'm like, no, man,
we can.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Use corn for a lot of bad showing the fifty
to fifty passes, but you get yourself an addequate tight end.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
That changes so much. Yeah, it does? I know you like?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yes, you and I both have been talking a lot
about Tyler Warren. Both you guys like him. I like
Kiddo Syracuse run a gast in the second running Gaston's kid,
the former wide receiver, his kid.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yees y tight end. Uh you know more of that.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Not neither of you or a Warren are exactly superior blockers,
but they both are dynamic playmaking threats. The difference with
Gaston as you could probably get him in the fourth
round versus the Tyler Warren that you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Have to spend a mid first round pick off. See.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
But the reason I like Warren because see, I like
Warren's physicality, you know, because for me, it's run after catch.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Can you get those extra yards on your own?

Speaker 3 (07:23):
It's almost like in basketball, being able to create off
the dribble, your own shot. And Warren has proven that
he can be that type of guy. If you if
you go back, and I encourage fans to go back
and watch any of the State film, you know, this year,
last year.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
When he catches the pass, it's almost like he's like
a running back.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
He's looking for contact, and I love the physicality from
running backs, and I love physicality from the tight end position.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Six foot six, two hundred and fifty seven pounds, he's
got better than you know, better than upper end prototypical
size for a title not not again. Even with that
size though not the world's greatest blocker, loved him. Get
Michigan talked about six five, two forty five. You got
Harold Fannon, the A lot of people talk about six four.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
To two thirty. Those guys all have h have pretty
decent size.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
And then of course Katston, who I like six five
about two thirty six, so you know it's it's he's
Dadsden is more of that Jimmy Graham guy than he
is a traditional tight end. He is an off the line.
Why he is a huge wide receiver or a you know, uh,
a tight end that you're not really looking at as
a superior blocker. You have to develop that out of

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him versus some of these other guys who have a
little bit more experience doing that.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, but for me, it's like I played with Shannon
Sharp and I don't think he minds me saying it
because it's true because he actually said it to me himself.
I mean, he doesn't specialize in blocking. That's not what
he No, he's just got in the way. Yes, that's
his whole thing was I'm just gonna get in the
way and I'm going to give the running back two

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to three seconds and he should find daylight. And that's
what she want from a tight ended position. Just get
in the guy way and make sure that your guy
I did not make the tackle.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
But also being a guy that.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Understands the route tree that can create space, guy who
has great hands, but he knows what to do.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
With it once he catches the ball.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
And ben to be totally honest, that's not to say
that Lucas Crow couldn't have been that guy, just never
materialized yeah, but wait a minute. I mean on National
tight Ends Day it was different though.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Well that was National tight Ends Day where tight ends
get a plus three on all their ratings on Madden
and that translates to the real life.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
But why couldn't I just carry over to every game
after that?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Though?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
You're preaching to the choir on this one. That was
one of those things where like, where was this all year?
And then where was this the rest of the year.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
This one person on the Broncos roster who is banging
the table and he's saying that I am a bona
fide tight end, so never call me a fullback.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
And that's Nate Atkins. Well he's an h pack. Well,
well he's an f Let's be honest. He would tell you,
I know what, he would a lot to be able
to say a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Hey, listen, based on how he's been utilized out of
all the guys in the backfield, right, he's actually believed
it or not he is tight end one? Is he not? Uh?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
In terms of productivity, he probably is, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I don't know about snap count, but in terms of time,
in terms of productivity, he probably is.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Probably I'm just saying a lot of people say a
lot of things. Ohjay used to say he was innocent.
We all know that, and we know how that panned up.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
But Nate Atkins is the most productive guy at the
tight end position. So when you come from if he
has any contractual bonuses, guess what he wants the Broncos
to list him as tight Well, of.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Course he wants to listen to pay purpose.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Want to be listening to here has a numble receiver.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
No you're not. It's it's true pay for play. I'm
playing this, I'm doing this. You should pay me. Pay
me on that scale stead of that scale. That's exactly
you know, saying like Zach Allen's like, oh, hit.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Me with that defensive end, you know, don't hit me
with a defense the tack.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
We moved to visit the.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Money, of course, of course, but this is more of
a reason why if the Broncos were to with which
I hope and I know that they are going to do,
do their due diligence and find finding more weapons for bo,
but that that is an area of the game that
I think they need to take advantage of it, especially
looking at two weeks ago, what Mike KYSEEKI was able

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to do to.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Them against Cincinnati. Yeah, And I mean that's the thing.
You're going to have to find guys.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Whether it's a draft, whether it's free agency, whatever, You're
gonna have to find guys that can do that, because
that is the thing that makes the Sean Payne offense go,
the thing that clears out a lot of the middle
and that it gets those kinds of places.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
And we haven't had that that gi We've had limited.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Players in those roles, whether it's Patadkins or Troutman or
Lucas Crowle who you mentioned ulsach for a couple of snaps.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Before he was gone. You know, they they've got to
find a guy to do that.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
You've got to have to find someone in that running
back room that can take the lead because when you
need yards, you could just say it's third and two,
he's getting a ball.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
And we don't have that right now. Don't wan't have
those We don't have.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
That on the roster, or if we do have it,
we don't know we have it because we don't use Okay,
but that being said, and I mentioned this, uh to
both Dave and rig when I when I did some
of the broadcasts on Sunday's game, and I was like, well,
what everyone is saying about the broncos inability.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
To run the game, but more importantly the dumbing downing
or the de valuing of Davante Williams. His first carry
was ten yards. His first carry was ten yards. And
I turned to both of those guys and I said,
I thought they said he couldn't run the ball.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
That was ten yards on the first carry, right, yeah.
And it wasn't a screen, no, But I mean, you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Also Casey's backups, and I like, I don't take a
taking me that Casey backup.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I'm not taking anything out of that.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I mean they checked the box and blow him ou,
which is what they're supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's that's that's all I take out of that one
A guy who's been ridiculed. I with you on that
they should use him more. They should use him more
and get it. Let him get it, because Shavanti has
been his best way. He gets in a groove anyway.
You know, it's it's like one yards, two yards.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Guys are making tackles, but his fingertips away from breaking them.
And then you get to that four fifth carry, and
that's when he starts to you know, starts to rip
away and get those seven eight yard and start punishing
you those kinds of running backs like he like uder
guess today, downhill guys. You you volume carry those guys
for a reason. They wear you down.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
And what about the awareness on the play that was
called back bow breucks the pocket?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Javante could have just chilled, you know, run bow.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Run, but he didn't got it, you know, if he
kept moving down field and he got the ladder of
the pitch or whatever the hell they're calling it.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
But but what about that? That that's something I think
he's a good player.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I think he's been unfairly criticized for the other things
that he's done this year.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I'm criticized Gut there.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
She's rolled into the new role that he plays fairly well,
which is she's that p Ryan roll from last year
where you're not getting very many carries, but you do
get targets and you're past protection guy and you know
and all that.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Should he get more carries? Yeah, probably should, But you know, I.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Mean he's he's doing what it is that they ask
of him, and and that's all you can do, and
is that will that be enough?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
There won't be enough to be buffle. You got to
run no, no, no no, I'm saying, will that be enough
to kind of keep him around? I don't know. From
the team standpoint, I don't think so. I really don't.
I think they wanted. I think that's where they're gonna
ty and squeeze money.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
If if they can squeeze any more money, that's the
position group toill squeze money.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
And in that case, if you know you're not going
to keep a guy, this is just me run him
into the crowds.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, get cold. I
know cold again. See that might be the biggest cold.
No no, that's a Ryan Edwiston. I didn't do that.
I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I'm just saying to give him a couple of touches
to give him an opportunity to keep his career going,
especially if you're not considering bringing him back.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, And I think if you get in a position
to do that, you should real quick on a clear
something up yesterday on kerish words report to Mary Cooper
was not gonna play for the Bills.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Then he showed up this.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Morning with no contact with the team all week after
deal with the family issue, decided he was going to play.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
So I look like an idiot on that.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
W me a kulpa there, but I wanted to clear
that one up so everybody knew that Cooper is going
to play?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Is is is going to play in that Buffalo game.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
We gotta hit a break, We'll come back, We'll get
more into this Buffalo game.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
This is Broncos Country night Ka.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
And blowing out the Clippers right now, twenty four point
lead in the third quarter.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
And that's without Yoki. They've got no Nikola Jokic out there,
just blowing them out.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Nick getting robbed and show me the money right now
that that.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Know, look at it? What did I I would have
had like the Clippers in the under? Wouldn't I Clippers
in the under?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
It's looking like Nuggets in the over. It's looking like nuggets.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, Nick's get robbed here, So I guess we can't count.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I don't know where Ryan and Dave would have picked
they had stayed.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, well you can. You can blame them, man, that's
their fault. I mean.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Asked them to make a pick. They said.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
If you asked for them to make pigs and day
for some reason didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Hey, that's not what it is like.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
It's like on on the pick them right if you don't,
which I am victim of this myself forgetting to pick
certain games. Guess what, no one, No one cares you lost, right,
I mean, shouldn't those rules apply.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'm with you on this.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think my radio partner is getting robbed here and
I am bagging the table right now for you for
you to to get this.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Put it on you to get it done. Put it
on you don't get done.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
I'm in an awful spot right here.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I mean I'm gonna be the lead. No, man, you
gotta get it done right. Look, this was a called
of law. I would you would be the witness? Was
the judge? Well of weird? We gone? And well? I
mean it was a hammer.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yes, so he called your voice that decides everything because
you have the evidence you asked them, they didn't apply.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
You know, I wish that something.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
I don't think I am the determining factor.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Hey, hey, hey, don't let Dave Logan scare you. Right, Hey,
it's Ryan. You know you know how how.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Ryan Edwards surely that's what we're gonna say right now.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Owen degenerous situation saying that one I expect that.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Wouldn't it be funny if like behind the scenes, like Ryan,
who's like the nicest guy, was actually like a total
rampaging monster.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Incredibly kind thanks after every show.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Was dividing scenes, he's like just craging monster or something.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Five six six serials of text line, Wow, we.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Gotta give against Buffalo Bills coming up.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
For those that don't know, on defense, Buffalo's defense is
rooted into Tampa two.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
The way to beat it is to run on it.
You go back and you look at teams to beat them.
This year they were successful run the football, and that's
that's how you beat it. You run at those defensive ends.
You run at that front four. They like to use
an eight merotation. You wear them down and you you
don't get yourself in negative situations. You can only throw
so much against the Tampa two. You know you're there's
there's basically three spots you can throw. Three spots you

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can throw on the field. You can hit the post
between the safeties, over the top of the the linebacker.
You can hit the honey hole in between the low
zone corner and the and the high safety, or you
could try some type of clear out flood the zone
type stuff, run in flood plays and try to do that.
You gotta be able to run the football, and that

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is something the Broncos have not showed a propensity for doing,
which is.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Why I said my keys to the game is Sean
Pagon taking everything that is in his routine playbook right,
like something that he would do from an evisual habit.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
He now has to do the total opposite right.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
And what you're saying with the team playing is playing
cover two, you have to run the ball to get
him out of it, because what that means those linebackers
have to step up. So that area that's vacated behind
them between the hashes, the area that we felt as
though the Broncos haven't really attacked with their tight ends
only they've attacked with the crossing routes, would call a
sudden Now that area is gonna be vacated for them

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to actually attack. But the Buffalo Bills until the Broncos
prove that they can run it at a high clip,
those dudes are going to stay back at five.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Six, six yards. They're gonna say, go ahead and get
three four yards.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
If you're getting three point four yards to carry, the
Bills are like, you know what, we'll take that. We're
gonna make sure that we take those deep overpasses away
from you. And that was going to proprove to be
an opportunity to the Broncos. Is gonna eat in the
run game?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, but I mean we have not shown a consistency
or a commitment to the run game virtually all year.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Last time I think of.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Us actually committing to the run game was trying to
work the clock down at the end of the Kansas
City game before the miss, before the block field goal,
and we did it successfully. There wasn't like we weren't successful,
we just haven't returned to it. And so that's that's
sort of been a problem for me as we go
into this playoff and I'm like, all right, are they
just saving the run game for the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Is this is this what we're doing? Or you know,
is there something else to this? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I'm not saying a high bow nicks, but I'm saying,
don't put bow knicks in high pressure situations in this game.
We need to make this easy on him as possible.
Because he's up against the defense. Frankly, he hasn't seen
much of all year. He didn't see Tampa too much
in college. He didn't see much Tampa to this year
Colts with the team that played it the most against US,
we just haven't seen it. He didn't do particularly well
in that game. He has not seen a lot of

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Tampa too.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
No, he hasn't.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
And even going back to the game against the Tempa
Bay Buccaneers, you know.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Don't play Tampa too anymore.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Right, And you look at now Todd wants to run
some of it. He ran a little of it, but
they didn't run a normous a lot of it because
they didn't have Antonio Winfield Junior in that buck secondary.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
But there's so many teams that have opted to run
cover two. Now.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
It may seem like an easy defense on the surface,
but it's about execution. Are you having all the loving
guys on the same page. What it also does is
a great job. If you got corners who can play
in that five six yard range and they can bump,
and they can read routes on a run, it makes
it really difficult. So now, as though we've seen in

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the past where Broncos receivers may have had free releases.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
This takes that free release away from you.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
So that means far as Bull's concerned, he's really gonna
have to go through his progressions and we're gonna see,
you know, some checkdowns.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, you're gonna have to You're gonna have to see
some of that. This is a game where you're gonna
have to stay ahead of schedule. Can't turn it over.
A Buffalo lives on the turnover.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Defensively, it's been don't break defense, but they live off
the turnovers. They lived to turn you over, and that's
that's how they beat you with with with extra possessions
for the offense. Broncos have been pretty good about staying
out of negative situations, negative down to distant situations. But
you know this is one. You can't take sacks, no fumbost,
no interceptions. You just got to take what they give you.
I'd like to see bou his legs a little bit

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more against that that defense too, even though they are
eyes forward.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
In a zone or what I'm expecting also from a
crowd noise standpoint, because believe it or not, those fans
in Buffalo they can be ruckus even though they don't
play in the Dome, it can't get pretty loud.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
So what you're saying is absolutely true.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
And the Broncos have had some issues over the past
couple of games starting games. Now they've done a good
job of finishing them and having to catch up. But
this is definitely going to be a game where they
have to stay ahead of the sticks. They have to
on that opening drive. They have to go down there
and score points. If you're getting the ball out of

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halftime or what even if you're not and Buffalo gets
the first every possession of.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
My mind, you have to score points.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Right I ideally you would want seven, bin, but if
you have to take Will Lutson three, take points because
you know that the Bills kicker, I mean he can
kick in that win. Oh yeah, I mean I'm not
saying that's gonna be win, but he's used to kicking
in those particular conditions that you don't want to leave
it to a game where I know Will LUTs Last

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year the game was with the Broncos won twenty four
to twenty two.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Will Lutz kick the game win the.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Field goal, but luckily there were twelve men on the
field or the Buffalo Bills, which gave him another opportunity
because he missed the first time.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
The idea is score.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
As many points as you can to force Josh Allen
in the Bills to start chasing points, something they haven't.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
They hadn't been in that position all year long.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I will say it's gonna be Colben twenty three for
the low, twenty nine for the high in Buffalo on Sunday.
There is a twenty two percent chance of precipitation.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
And snow in that one.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
So it could be could it could we could get
a snow playoff, sloppy snow game out of all this.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Who would that benefit?

Speaker 3 (24:25):
They have a benefit Buffalo the home team, it would
And the reason it would benefit them because they know
they have a reliable running back in James Could and
they're gonna find ways to feed him and get him involved. Also,
you know Josh Allen, this is a very important game
for him. No, this isn't against Joe Burrow. No, this

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isn't against Patrick Mahomes. But in order to face Mahomes,
he's got to get past the Broncos. A loss of
the Broncos would only make his story. And what I
mean by that is right now, Josh Allen's trending in
that direction. But Jim Kelly, Now, Jim Kelly went to

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Super Bowls and lost. But when you look at Josh Allen,
it's about getting to the playoffs and winning meaningful games.
And that's why I'm making a comparison to him and
Jim Kelly being able to win those games.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
You lose the you lose to Denver on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Sean McDermott may not be employed if he loses to
Denver on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I'm you know what, I.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Know, Buffalo fans love jumping off, jumping off.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
All things on the fleeting. They lose onto the Brogos.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
They might send Sean Payton out on his backslide on
the flaming table.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I'm just saying there's gonna be a lot of Bill's
fans jumping on things.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, that's one of
those that's one of those things. I talked a little
bit about that with you know, with David Ryan yesterday.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Sean mc thurntt loses his game, and you know, I'm
not one hundred percent he's saving his job.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
The question for the games that's all of that one game.
I mean, he skated. He got through it.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Last year after compare it after trying to say the
nine to eleven hijackers.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
You know, did a you know, remember that whole fiasco.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yes, Like I get the point he was trying to make,
But Bro, that was like the weirdest way to do
that on Earth. Like you could have picked literally any
other example of teamwork other than that. I just I
think he's I think they look at him the same
way the Broncos eventually started looking at John.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Fox as a good coach.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
And we're getting to the playoffs every year, But this
guy's not going to take us to where we want
to He can't take that next step.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
And I think that's where we're at with Seanny Dermott.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I think we're at the point where Buffalo fans and
that front officers starting to say, Okay, this guy turned
the culture in Buffalo around.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
We were a Door Matt franchise. He turned it around.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
But I don't think he can take us to that
that next level we want to go. Is this a
guy that's going to get us past Patrick Mahomes. Is
this a guy that's going to get us past Lamar Jackson,
and I'm not sure that he is.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
But see that that is part of the course. It
comes along with the territory.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Like would you rather be a coach or a fan
base or a quarterback that doesn't have that pressure on them?
Or would you want to be in the position where
you have that pressure on you constantly?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Which one would you rather?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
I mean, I'm rutles guy, Like I'm different though I'm
wired different.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Man, Like I like the pressure.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I like it, like if you and it's the thing
with anything in life, you don't give me pressure, I
get lazy.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Right, like in complacency.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
We you, I mean, you know me well enough to
know at this point, like when there's a challenge, I'm
there to meet it, but when there's not, I'm just
kind of like, well all right whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
You know. It's it's one of those things where I
thrive under that. I thrive in the chaos.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
I love pressure situations because the game slows down for
me in pressure situations. And I'm talking about life and
not just you know, the game of football, but like,
I like those we were talking to.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I was talking to somebody today and her friend is
out there in.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
LA They're dealing with the fire situation, they need to evacuate,
they got an evacuation order, and her friends sitting there
scrolling Instagram or whatever. I'm like, you got to get
on the phone with your friends so she can't sit there.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
On the gram. Walkers are get to keep people. I
like high pressure situations like that. I enjoy that. I
liked it when I was in the Army. I liked it,
you know in football, like it now.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
I enjoy pressure situations like it forces me to stay
dialed in.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Well.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
When some people live for that pressure, they live for
that moment.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Low people live the other way. Get the pressure off
my back. Yeah, because with pressure come expectations. And there
are certain individuals who both coaches and players, they feel
better when they're flying under the radar. No one's really
expecting much of them. But where the Broncos are right now,

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no matter what happens in Buffalo, the level of pressure
for them goes up. And the reason it goes up
because you've proven you can overcome adversity and hurdles.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
And now that you've proven.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
That, you've already showed people what you're capable of it,
you can't do an about face.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
You can't do a retreat.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
No, it's like you got to run up the hill, right,
you know what's coming down the hill and how difficult
it is, but you have to run up the heel.
And are you going to take some casualties? Yeah, you are,
and casualties and the framework of level of criticism, but
know that you've shown that you have the ability to

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charge the hell. That's the part that's.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Important for me and Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think this is I think there's more pressure on
Buffalo in this game than there's on Denver. Denver, you're
playing with house money. You go in there, you win
this thing. Wow, you know it's a great story. And
you don't win this thing, and you're like, you know what,
Bownix's window starts next year, right, Like we're.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
We're fine, Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
You win this thing and say, okay, we got now
we gotta you know, we gotta loo at the jutterernuts
in the division. Buffalo loses this thing and you're like,
how did you choke this one away?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
You didn't even get to the mahomes Lamar Jackson matchups.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
You choke this thing away against Denver, a team that
got boat raced by Baltimore earlier.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
This year. No, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I mean the large or the bolt of the pressure
is on the Buffalo bi for sure. I'm just saying
based on the whole idea from organization's standpoint of trying
to get back to where the Broncos were several years ago,
being a main stay in the playoffs. From that standpoint,

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all team pressure. Yeah, not national pressure, but team pressure
to say, I mean, come twenty twenty five, here's what
we're known for doing.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, and there's got to be a continuation, that's all.
It's my hope that this game takes the Denver Broncos win,
winn't listen.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
It's my hope that this game gives the Broncos enough
of a taste that you're looking around and at the
other team there, especially if you lose, and you're saying, oh,
I want to be that.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I want to now, I've been there, now, I want
to win. Now, I want to keep going. Now I
know what this is like.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, what if you taste play me young, It's hard
to go back to Roman Noodle's, I'm saying, Russ, I'm
just saying Roman Noodles

Speaker 2 (30:55):
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