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Twitter melting down right now on all sides. And again,
I don't understand it. This is not plausible, this is
not feasible, this is not realistic. It's very obvious what's
going on here. Everybody I've talked to her round of
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the league is Jerry's checking a box on on the
realty rule and helping his buddy Deon Sanders get a
pay raise from Colorado because the Raiders did not play ball.
We'll see if our next guest has any light to
shed on that. However, we'll go out to the KWA
COSPRE hotline and bring on Parker, Gabriel Parker.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
How you doing this evening?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm doing?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know, the internet's melting down about Jerry and Dion
talking about a job that Jerry's never gonna give deon
but uh, let'st's.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Start off with your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, well, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It's obviously, like you said, internet's melting, so that's always fun.
And I think you know, there was some reporting. I
know our commis Troy Rank wrote maybe last week or
a couple of weeks ago about the fact that you know,
there's there's extension talks.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know, you think it will happen at some point
at CEU with Dion.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Or it's at least like you know, it's sort of
on the on the table, on the to do list,
and so until that's done, I mean, the more leverage
the better, right and so, and I don't I don't
have a lot of you know, solid information about how
real or how not, but I know a couple of things. One, uh,
you know, it's good to have a leverage and be
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in the conversation no matter what, especially when you're a
college coach.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And two, you know, the cowboys, they know this kind
of stuff is just going.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
To dominate the conversation, and why not be in it.
It would be amazing to just see it go like
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
The no half measures, like let's just put all the.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Chips in and see what happens. That sounds like fun
to me, but I don't know. I'll we'll be really
surprised if that were to actually come to pass.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, I mean, this is this is sports talk radio
cookies because we get to sit here and build whole
segments around this. But in reality, it's abject nonsense. Everyone
I've talked to says this is just ludicrous. What would
Deion Sanders even do? Like what are you paying him
for to call timeouts and drop a challenge flag? He's not,
he's not coaches x's and o's and the pros like,
he's not.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And it was he bringing with him?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like at the end of the day, your staff is
gonna what keep Mike Zimmer whose defense was hot garbage
and bring in Punk Shermer.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
To run the offense. I mean, this is this is ludicrous.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
What would it be hilarious?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Though?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's actually like that you.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Had you know, she Shermer running an offense, uh, and
then it was like it just was like, uh, you know,
like glitzed up because Dion was.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The head coach. I mean that would be sort of amazing. Yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I mean, like if you when you sort of think
through it practically. There's a lot of things that just don't.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Add up about it.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
But I mean it's coaching, search Steven. What's the fun
in thinking practically through things?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Well? Right?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And that's that's how it goes. You fire Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Uh, too late for you to be able to do
any interviews with the Kansas City or or Dallas staffs
and uh and and cost yourself that and now you're uh,
you're over here chatting up your buddy Deon Sanders, who
you're not gonna pay the you you you benched Cooper Rushy.
You wouldn't pay two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus
for playing him.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
You're gonna you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Bring it, pay an eight million dollars buyout to bring
Deon Sanders over to Dallas.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Get out of here. This is just ludicrous.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And I've watching Twitter meltdown over this.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Colorado fans don't even pay this any attention. This is Deon.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Leveraging for a better contract uh than than he's got,
which he'll probably get. Turning to the Denver Broncos probably
a bitterly disappointing end to what overall has to be
considered a successful season.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, definitely, I mean the one hundred percent. I couldn't
have said it better.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I mean, it's a successful season. They're ahead of where
a lot of people thought they were going to be.
I think they answered, you know that they have plenty
of questions going forward, but they answered a bunch this
year or too, and so, like I think I wrote
about this like going into the game against Buffalo, Like
I think if you go back and think about what
the conversation was a year ago right now and when Sean.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Payte and George Payton had their you know, end of season.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
News conference, like there was legitimately it was sort of silly,
but there was legitimately people that were surprised. When George
Payton was at the postseason news conference last year, he
walked in and he made a joke about how, oh
my wife's here, it must.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Be a big deal.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
When he sat down, and then like you knew Russ
was out, you didn't know what.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The answer was going to be there. You knew, you
know a lot.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Of things, but there were just a there was a
lot of questions.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
About out how the y off season was going to fall.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Into place where they were going to find a quarterback,
what the defense was going to look like, you know,
all of these things, and so in a lot of ways,
they answered a lot of questions this year. Obviously Bronicks
played well for the most part, and so like on
you go, doesn't mean there's not still a lot to do,
doesn't mean that it didn't hurt for those guys to
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lose in the.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Playoffs and lose the way they did on Sunday. But
like you.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Said, I mean the building blocks in place, sort of
a course set for the future, and I think obviously
probably a much healthier place the roster in the organization
finds itself than I think you could have forecast twelve
months ago.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Talking with Parker Gabriel and Parker J.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Gabriel on Twitter, as we look at some of the
instant emotional reaction from what it was a beat down
frankly by Buffalo, a lot of fans out here, more
than I would have suspected, are clamoring for the Alster advance. Joseph,
a guy who turned around this defense from the seventy
point Tobaco against Miami to one of the top units
in the league that it is now. Are you in
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any way entertaining this fire advanced Joseph thing.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Not really, I mean, no, I think one of the things.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
And you know, players are not players make.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
The game go right, and players are not always the
best judge. But there are.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Instances where I think that a fair.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Question to ask is like, what would the locker room.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Think if you made that move?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
And the defensive guys love him and they think he's great,
and they think he did a good job, and they
put it on themselves to go out and execute you know,
game plans and stuff like that, and I just think
like if you ask Zach Allen that question, he would
be like, well, maybe he wouldn't be here next year
because he gets the head coaching job, but like, of
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course not, why would you do that? And so to me,
like that's they're not always the perfect sort of like
information setter, decision making set But I know that, you know,
every single defensive player would think that that was a
ludicrous idea. And I don't know, We'll see, you know,
we'll see how the rest of the off season goes.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
But I think sometimes we get.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
The hand ringing about how do you keep this guy,
how do you move that guy? So on and so
forth and like sometimes you entertain those things. But to me,
like I think that they'll work hard to keep together
as much as the staff as possible. Maybe they'll lose
a couple of guys, maybe they'll make a tweak or two.
But if you were drawing up a list of issues
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with the Broncos this year, I don't think vance Joseph.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Would be near the top of it.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, I mean, in those are the top ten things
necessarily that I would advance is the guy who brought in,
you know, Zach Allen. That's his guy, you know, you know,
piss Off Argualy, your best defensive player. You know who's
by the way, you're going to be in a contract
year next year in an effort to do I mean,
I don't know makes sense to me, But that's that's
beside the point.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Let's look at you talk about changing some things up.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
A couple of players that that are on that you
got Nick Benito, who needs a contract extension, Zach, but
Zach Allen.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Needs a contract extension.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I think JFM tiged a two year deal when he
got traded here, so you probably have the top that
off put another year on it. Meanwhile, you've got Courtland Sutton,
the guy who held out, you know early on on
some workouts and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
They kind of spiffed them a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
There you are, you keeping Courtland Sutton around at twenty
plus million when when you've got so many other things
you need to do.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, it's a great question.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I think it's one of the that's probably one of
the biggest questions of the offseason. I mean, I think,
I mean they're gonna. I think they'll take action on
the contract one way or another, right, and it's it's
at this point it's either you're letting them go or
or you're giving them a real extension. And I said
the same thing about Garrett Bowles, and they ended up
doing the extension.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So this isn't like a guarantee.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
But they've had a lot of chances to extend quote
sudden contract.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
They've had chances where it would have helped.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Them cap wise to extend his contra I've been so
far at each of those junctures they have not done that.
And so for a while, that was the way it
was with Garrett Bowles, and Garrett Bowles won you know,
Sean Payton over and you're in the extension. Could the
same thing happened with Courtland sudden? Yeah, it could, But
I just to me, it's like Champagne's never been a
guy that has, you know, wanted to put premium dollars
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into the wide receiver position, you know, more than.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
He has to.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
And so like one of the questions is where are
they going.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
To be aggressive and free agency?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And if the answer is wide receiver, then I can't
see how they're going to go pay somebody big money
and extend Courtland.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
So you know it's going to be an interesting few
weeks on that front.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I'm I guess I'll be a little I've all I've
been saying I'd be a little surprised if they kept
in wrong term, And I.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Suppose I'm still in that camp.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Even though he had a really nice year.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
But if they do move on, they better have a
plan for high how you know they envisioned building that room?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Tom A.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Parker Gabriel at Parker Jay Gabriel, would you would you
be okay with von Vla moving over to the ex
receiver there?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, but you know I think that you know, I
could be wrong about this, but if you're if you're
talking about a room that is, you know mems Veley,
you know Franklin and little Jordan Humphrey. Like I I'm
wondering if that's enough firepower. Right, Like, obviously MIM's like
really came on and they will benefit greatly if he
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stayed down the trajectory that he showed.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
The last you know, seven or so six or seven
weeks of the season. But to me, it's like, so
if you do.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That, are you then are you then talking about trying
to go spend top of the market money on somebody,
or you're talking about drafting a guy in the first
couple of rounds, or are we saying that, you know,
Men's Vele Franklin is the bedrock of a group that's
going to help bo Nix elevate over the over the
next couple of years.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I tend to follow that too.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I mean, in that scenari what you're probably bring Juwan
Johnson into a free agency at tight end, and then
you're probably using new draft picks on both tight ends
and wide receiver in addition to running back as you
continue building the thing out.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You know, I don't know it just you look at
the market.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Courtland Suton's gonna get somewhere between twenty four and twenty
eight a you know, a p y and I just
don't know if.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
The Broncos can afford that relative to the other things
that they need to do in a day.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You look at this team, you look at the weeklyaks
on defense, they probably need a new free safety, you know, PJ.
Lock was was fun that that was the obvious weekly
ink in the secondary this year. You know, you, like
I said, you're probably gonna have to get a real
nose tackle DJ Field inaborrably, but he's a little undersized
for that. You saw what happened when teams want to
go power on you. Uh, and he's gonna cost too
much anyway. It's probably a casualty. So there are needs
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still on this team that aren't necessarily on the offensive
side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, And I think you know, obviously they they're gonna
want to get athletic and maybe young and athletic and
inside linebacker too. You just like you can't draft everybody
right like you want to be able to draft everybody.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But from where they're sitting, there's still.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
A couple full classes away from being that sort of
like young, cheap talented roster and so like, I don't
maybe a flawed way to think about it.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I've thought of of sort.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Of like running back, tight end, and receiver offensive skill positions.
There's maybe like, you know, two and two in the
draft and one in free agency.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
That doesn't mean you.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Don't like cross pollinate there where maybe you sign you know,
you sign a receiver that's cheaper or whatever.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
But how you know, this is one thing that Champagne.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And George Payton have been really good at the last
couple of years is identifying draft strengths and then pro
scouting strength and figuring out their plan from there. Like,
they didn't like the defensive line depth in the draft
last year, so they signed Malcolm Roach and they and
they you know, they fleece the Jets for John Frinkle
Myers and so like, if they decide that they like,
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you know, maybe a receiver that's available, maybe you spend
a little bit of money there and you do the
other you.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Know, the other skill positions in the draft, or.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Maybe it's there's a running back out there they like,
and so you know, they signing free age and ky
and they do the draft on the other two and
so like, and then you're right I mean defensively, they've
got some holes to fill too, So it's a big list.
But obviously they're sort of starting, I think from a
better place financially and you know, roster foundation wise than
a year ago.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I yeah, and I tend to agree with that. What
is the expectation now? Has the bar been raised? We
talked about this team sort of sneaking up on people
this year. You had to you know, a five and
a half wins total of the sports books and you know,
and all that kind of stuff. Next year, you got
a tougher schedule. You got the NFC East on the schedule.
That's gonna be a yeah, that's gonna be tougher. And
you know, I don't think you're sneaking up on anybody
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next year. I think everybody's prepared for what it is
to bring it at them. Bow Nicks is going to
have a year's where the tape, the defensive coordinators are gonna.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Have a whole offseason to look at that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
As we look forward to next year, the expectation for
the fan base is now gonna be playoffs.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Is that going to be fair going forward? I think so?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I mean, you know, and look like you could you could.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Be ten and seven again and be a better team
that's better equipped to win the postseason. There's a lot
of ways to you know, they won. They won all
the games they were supposed to win this year and
not many of the ones they weren't supposed to and
so like, you know, you could mix the match a
little bit there. You know, some every team at some
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point is going to lose a game they have no
business winning, and most teams at some point are going
to win a game they have no business winning.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
And the Broncos were really.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Pretty remarkably averse to either of those things.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Like they they almost gave away a couple they shouldn't
but they didn't.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
And then you know, they almost won a couple of
games that you would have said, like, man, that is
a really good win, and for the.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Most part they didn't.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
So you know that, I just think you can.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You can get to nine and eight, ten and seven
a lot of different ways, and so, you know, I
think that's sort of that's where I would baseline the
expectation next year. But you could be in that same
you know, six seven seed range and be better equipped
than they were this year to go win a game.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
In a place like Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Talking with Parker Gabriel, Uh, yeah, you know, I think
so I look forward to this next season with some
some cautious optimism they can keep this thing going. If
they can they can shore up certain uh you know,
certain holes on the roster, as it were, as you
look at the Buffalo things, it's just a case of
a you know, a team being outmatched.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And also I thought, you know, I thought they they
looked at times like a team that hadn't been on
that stage before. And I don't mean that as like
withering criticism, but true.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You know, like the personal fouls, like you know, the Brandon.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Jones play like that. That's a that's a penalty, but
it's also a tough play. It happens fast, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Nick Bonito at one point shoved the guy in the
back after play and didn't.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Get flagged for it. They just there were times where
it looked like they hit the big punch. They landed
a big punch early, and then it was almost like, okay,
what do we do with this? And Buffalo, like the
Buffalo's credit obviously, they just showed no sign of panic.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
They're like, okay, yours ten trade first downs and ten points.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
You know, like, and that's the kind of that's the
kind of way that that Denver just had. They haven't
learned to play that way yet, or maybe they're just
not good enough to play that way yet. And either way,
where maybe you get in a game like that in
the regular season or maybe you don't in the postseason.
When you're playing that team, they are going to do
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that to you and you have to be able to
do it back. And at this point the Broncos, you know,
aren't able.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Well, yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I think we're hoping that that they're able to fill
in the game. For me, I thought getting blown out
in the playoffs was actually a good thing. You know,
at the end of the day, I think nobody wants
that from a fan base perspective, but from a from
a team perspective, getting to the stage and getting blown
off that stage gets the real guy the guys want
to be winn looking at that thing saying hey, wait, okay,
that's what greatness looks like. I want a piece of that.
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What do I got to do this all season to
get there?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
You concur yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
And not only that, but like everybody like you talked
about me and talk to players all the time. Then like,
talk to any player and they will tell you the
speed of the game is different from preseason, regular season,
regular season to postseason postseason to Super.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Bowl whatever, but like it is good for you know,
Bo Nix, for Devon Beley, for Riley Moss, for anybody
on the roster to be in that game and to
see what it looks like.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And then you know, not only they're like what do
I have to do to get to that level, but like, Okay,
I've felt that, I know what it's like, and maybe
the next time.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
You know, you don't get three preseason.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Games and seventeen regular season games, you get to feel
it for four quarters or maybe eight if you if
you find a way to win a game, or twelve
or whatever. But like you, you don't.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Get much postseason experience.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
So any postseason experience just have to be really beneficial
to you over the off season and then and then
use it next.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Time you get there.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Parker, looking forward to talking to you again as this
team continues to build things out this offseason, and looking
forward to talking again down the line.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Take care, Parker, Gabriel we'll be back after this five
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The text and I want to thank JP Acosta for
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
Get to the NFL six.
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Speaker 1 (19:19):
What all right?
Speaker 7 (19:22):
First up here, we've been talking some Dallas Cowboys today,
more so Deon Sanders. But that's the result of the
Dallas Cowboys deciding they're not going to be bringing Mike
McCarthy back. A bit surprising because they rejected the Bear's
request to interview McCarthy for their head coaching job.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Now they're kind of screwing over all their assistance with
this whole mess. Just in general.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Deanna Side, what do you think about how the Dallas
Cowboys are handling this coaching situation?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Well, I think everybody's talking about Dion instead.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Of how Dallas is handling this whole situation.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
P T.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Barnum's back with with Jerry getting the attention where he
wants it instead of where he doesn't want it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
This is the same owner that pinched the quarterback that
carried him through the last third of the season to
avoid paying them a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus
for playtime. He was at fifty two percent need to
get to fifty five percent for that bonus. You just
cheated them out of it by sitting them to put
Trey Lance in there. You know, Dallas has had a
poorer and poorer reputation as time goes along with the
Jones family doing that stuff and more and more fans
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of turning on that they're turning on.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
The way that you does.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They basically sat out free agency, created unnecessary drama with
Ceedee Lamb and Dak Prescott's contracts, and go by the
way costs themselves a ton of money waiting to let
the market reset itself to pay those things.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But they didn't have to do that.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Part of that comes from the fact that your contract
manager guy used to you know, used to run like
a waffle house or whatever, like that's his only other experience.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
That'stead of working for the Dallas Cowboys. So you know,
it's it's it's it's frustrating to watch when.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You've got professional organizations out there.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Doing the right thing and you get them. You know,
you got the.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Dallas Cowboys out there just just being ridiculous for the
sake of being ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
As far as that goes, who wants it. Who's gonna
want that job? You're hamstrung already, your your your cap tight.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You probably can't afford Michael Parsons without some some kaponomics.
And if you do pay that, well, then you're gonna
be hamstrung as far as signed anybody else.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So what you see is what you get. Oh, by
the way, the standard, you just.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Had a coach who came in there and had a
better than sixty percent winning percentage, Well he was there.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's a standard. You got the ball on that. You know,
you get anounced it early. So if you're a first
time coach, you're probably not taking that because that's your shot.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And if you're a second time coach, you know enough
to know to avoid it. You basically got to be
desperate at this point. And so you want somebody, it's
gonna be somebody who's gonna want a five or six
year deal to make sure.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
They cash in.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
The only guy I can think of out there that
makes sense with all that criterion is John Ruden.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Wow, you think John Gruden could come back into the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I think that's the one place that it would would
or could happen. Wow, you know, I mean John Gruden
sitting there went Barstool right now. Yeah, I mean that's
a joke where the coach working for Barstool.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
He says he's feeling nicey Ben, he's feeling what nice?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Have you not seen the videos?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I don't watch Barstool content ever since said that producer
live about me six years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So I don't subscribe their consent. I mean it's I mean,
it's like, you know, you're working for a third rate
a joke outlet. Yeah, I mean it is. That's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's a joke outlet for a teenager and early twenties
guys who you know, they're still like fort humor like that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That's that's what barstool is two.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Talking about some early twenty something guys here. The Senior
Bowl roster has officially been announced for this upcoming Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Some notable quarterbacks figure Broncos Country.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Thankfully might not be familiar with these guys this time around.
Jalen Milroe, Dylan Gabriel, Jackson, Dart Riley, Leonard, Will Howard
and Tyler show Scheff. I don't know the show are
the Senior Bowl roster quarterbacks? Do you think any of
these quarterback prospects could help loose their stock enough to
go in.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
The first round. Maybe Jackson Dart. None of the rest
of these guys are going in the first round. You know,
people have talked about Milroe, but he he might be
a position change. He might move to running back in
the NFL. Riley Leonard's not playing quarterback in the NFL.
The rest of these guys, I mean, Dylan Gabriel, he's
a he's a Day three guy. Will Howard, I mean,
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maybe that's one of those ones that's kind of high variants.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You really gotta believe in and Will Howard if you do,
then okay. And Tyler Scheffs is this guy Jackson Dart
maybe you know.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And you've got Shor going to the Shrine games through
the Senior Bowl, which is an interesting move, uh for
for him.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Yeah, a lot of you guys decided to make that
to go to the Shrine games through the Senior bowlders's
frett to deal with the Shrine gamer or what they do.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
But there's other thing. I'll they'll let that off here.
Sounds great.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
The Baltimore Ravens and Buffalo Bills both advanced this week
with some amazing performances from Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen
to front runners for this year's MVP Award that they're
now squaring off against each other in the divisional round.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Which of these.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Two teams do you think projects to be the bigger
challenge to the Kansas City Chiefs and the AFC championship
that'ssuming the Chiefs beat the Texans this weekend.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think the team that.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I think is the bigger challenge is the team I
think is gonna lose. I think the Ravens are a
bigger challenge to Kansas City than Buffalo is.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And I still think Buffalo is going to beat Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think that I'm not sure that they can beat
Baltimore the way the Baltimore plays, and this.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Is just fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I mean, it's it's all, you know, obviously hypotheticals or whatever,
but the way that the Ravens do things on offense
I think presents Kansas City with the most amount of
challenges versus you know, at the same time, what Buffalo
does I think works against Baltimore, and I think they
know how to slow down the.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Baltimore attack.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
So I.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Tend to think that.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I think Bubble is gonna win that game, and I
think the Ravens would have given the Chiefs bigger.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Fits, bad news for Broncos country.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Then I don't think anyone in Bronco's country wants to
see that three piece.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I mean, I don't care one way or the other.
Four not in it. Who cares, you know? Therefore put it.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Let him win so that next year, if we beat him,
it's that mu sweeter, we're beating the best.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Four Each of the Washington Commanders, your guy Dan Quinn
clutch game situations. Each of the Commander's last five wins
on their current winning streak have.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Come down to the final play of the game.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Do you think they can keep this cardiac Commander's streak
rolling into Detroit against the one seed and maybe pluffing upset.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I mean, that's a tough ass.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Detroit is one of the best teams in football, so
that's a very tough ask that said. I mean, you know,
I said Tim Tebow couldn't keep doing it, and then
he did, you know, until he couldn't.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I guess when he ran into New England.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But in that vision around right next week, it was like, yeah, bro,
and it's not just these five games of coming out
of the last play they hail Mary against Chicago or
whatever they came down to the last, but they have
been a cardiaf foot that clutch gene, man, I mean,
they've got it. There's a point where like once you're lucky,
you know, once happens, Okay, it happens two or three times,
you're lucky, five or six times, You're like, okay, this
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is a pattern, Like you have something, and they've got
whatever that clutch gene is.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They've got it. You know, they find ways at the
end of the day to make things happen. So you know,
I'll give them a bet. I'll give a puncher's chance
against Detroit. I don't know what the line's gonna open
at or what the line opened out on that probably
about eight and a half. I would assume i'd have
to go back and look.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
But I you know, as far as the commanders go,
I'll give a punch of chance.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I know, I've never doubted the power of my dude,
Dan Quinn.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Yeah, and talk about that clutch gene. It seems like
Jaydon Daniels has it in spades. I've got that line
for you here. Detroit opens up early as an eight
and a half point favorite.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
That was my guest.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
So Raven is actually a one point favorite against the Bills.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I believe that, and I believe that line will continue
to go in the Ravens favor with the betting public.
But I believe the sharps will be on Buffalo. We'll
see how that plays out of the court. We'll keep
our eye on that. You see how that plays out
of the week.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I like it.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Spot five.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Aj Brown was spotted on the sidelines of the Eagles
playoff victory this past week reading a book. It was
like a self help book. Finished the game with just
one catch for ten yards. The self help book much
Better Stats, started the weekend number five and twenty two
thousand on Amazon's bestsellers list. Now it's number one. What
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do you think of Brown's actions to performatively reader or
maybe he was really reading the self help book.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
On the sideline.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Do you think it's at all a way of maybe
sending a message to the coaching staff or Hurt's.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
About get me the ball. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I don't know what it would be other than if
that's what you need to motivate yourself to play better, Okay,
I mean, if that's what you need to motivate yourself
to get up for every play, you got to read
some dude telling you stuff you should innately know, you know,
for me, like self help books, I.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Look at that stuff all the time.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I'm like, these are guys, you guys telling you stuff
you should just know, like duh, you know. They just
find ways to feel phrase it to to make it resonate,
I guess. And if that's what you need, that's what
you need. That's that's never you know, I've never been
a proponent of that, but you know, if that's what
works for you, I'm not gonna If it works for you.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
As far as it goes and getting the you know,
you're becoming a best seller.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Good for that author or whatever, hopefully they make some
money off it. The rest of this stuff, I don't
know what message would you be sending, like, you know,
what messages he would he be sending by reading that,
Other than I'm motivating myself through whatever this is.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I think it's less to do with the book and
maybe just reading on that.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
I've never seen a player do that before, so to me,
is it the disengagement? Nick Ferguson on k WAE Sports
were saying, maybe some form of peaceful protest to try
and send.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
A message on that front.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I can't make two and two work here.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Six K J.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Lot of the Pittsburgh Steelers, following their disappointing loss to
the Baltimore Ravens this past weekend, said it's time for
the Steelers to have some tough conversations.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Do you think it's time for the Steelers to make some.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Dramatic changes to their operation, and if so, what do
you think those changes should be.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I think they do need to make some I think
they need to look at the operation because they've been
a tunneling team, right They've been stuck in that in
the purgatory. They've been stuck at We're better than five hundred,
we make the playoffs, but that's really it. That's what
we are, and they need to ask themselves why that
is and what can we do to get to the
next step. What are the reasons we're not there? Why
are we losing, how are we losing who are we
losing too? Why are we losing to those teams, and
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you know, you need to ask themselves those questions and
find the answers to that. If you're able to do that,
if you're able to identify those things, okay, cool. I
always like to you know that we need to ask
some tough conversations. You know, well, everybody has to have time.
Everybody has the same tough conversations at the end of
the year. I mean, if you're vocalizing it, cool, but
everybody has these conversations. Everybody's asking themselves, if they didn't win,
how do we win?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And if they did win, how do we keep winning?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
And everybody's having tough conversations about what do we gotta
do to this roster. You know, we're gonna have to
cut so and so to save money, or we're gonna
have to bring in such and such to get better.
What do we gotta do and so? You know, I
mean that kind of stuff. It's funny. You got a
lot of you know, there's a lot of cliches that
get spouted in this in this arena. But to me,
I mean, everybody's having those conversations. The Steelers need to
have them. They are a frankly a middling organization. They're
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just good enough to get to the playoffs, but not
good enough to do anything with that.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And it's been that way for a long time. Mike
Tomlin does not have a playoff win.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And the entire career of Kyle Shanahan the head coach,
so that's why Shanahan has been a head coach.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Mike Tomlin has not won a playoff game.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
That's a remarkable stat. I mean, Sin's twenty seventeen. That's
that's really crazy. Yeah, And I guess, so do you
think they should move on from Mike Tomlin?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And what about the quarterback where we differ? Do you
think they should move on from Russ? I do not.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I think they should run it back with those guys
unless there's some kind of better option they believe if
are they going to get real Arthur Smith, you know,
I mean, if you keep it on the Smith, you
need to basically keep Russell Fields. I mean, because that's
the only guys that are really going to be able
to execute that offense. And and Fields is not better
than Russell Wilson. So don't like whoever that is. I
can already hear somebody out the Fields they did he
was terrible, So they benched him and put Russ in a.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
Best winning percentage of any Tomlin quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
If you think it was Justin winning those games and
not that defense, I harken you back to him coming
to Denver here and if you think it was him
winning that game, watching, we got to see up close
in personal that Justin Fields won nit And to put
it in better context, his coaches see him every day.
They see both of them every day and they're like, yeah, nope,
we're going with this guy over here. We're going with
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mister unlimited missus Ciarra. Sorry but wait on that one.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
They every day they look at Russell Wilson and Justin
Fields and ask themselves who gives themselves, who gives them
the better chance to win? And they go the guy
that gives them a better chance to win, and that's
Russell Wilson. Russ gives them a better chance to win.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You know what they need to do.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Upgrade the offensive line, upgrade the receiving corps. Get you
any viable pass catching weapon other than George Pickens, who's
so mercurial you never know which version of George Pickens
is showing up game to game.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Yeah, a little more reliable option there, I think would
be much needed for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yea Pickens is like Antonio Brown with less talent. Yes,
that's you know. I mean, he's just a head case.
You never know what, you know what, which guy is
showing up? The old world guy or the.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Guy that's just so disinterested in playing that you know,
he looks like he's wearing boxing gloves every time he
tries to catch a ball. Don't anyway, I have thoughts
just saying, Rocos Country Night pulls on a
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Your favorite shows, including this one on the free and
redesigns I Heart Radio Path. This Deon Sanders thing has
Twitter melting down right now on all sides. And again,
I don't understand it. This is not plausible, this is
not feasible, this is not realistic. It's very obvious what's
going on here. Everybody I've talked to her round of
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the league is Jerry's checking a box on on the
realty rule and helping his buddy Deon Sanders get a
pay raise from Colorado because the Raiders did not play ball.
We'll see if our next guest has any light to
shed on that. However, we'll go out to the KWA
COSPRE hotline and bring on Parker, Gabriel Parker.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
How you doing this evening?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm doing?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know, the internet's melting down about Jerry and Dion
talking about a job that Jerry's never gonna give deon
but uh, let'st's.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Start off with your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, well, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It's obviously, like you said, internet's melting, so that's always fun.
And I think you know, there was some reporting. I
know our commis Troy Rank wrote maybe last week or
a couple of weeks ago about the fact that you know,
there's there's extension talks.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know, you think it will happen at some point
at CEU with Dion.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Or it's at least like you know, it's sort of
on the on the table, on the to do list,
and so until that's done, I mean, the more leverage
the better, right and so, and I don't I don't
have a lot of you know, solid information about how
real or how not, but I know a couple of things. One, uh,
you know, it's good to have a leverage and be
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in the conversation no matter what, especially when you're a
college coach.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And two, you know, the cowboys, they know this kind
of stuff is just going.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
To dominate the conversation, and why not be in it.
It would be amazing to just see it go like
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
The no half measures, like let's just put all the.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Chips in and see what happens. That sounds like fun
to me, but I don't know. I'll we'll be really
surprised if that were to actually come to pass.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, I mean, this is this is sports talk radio
cookies because we get to sit here and build whole
segments around this. But in reality, it's abject nonsense. Everyone
I've talked to says this is just ludicrous. What would
Deion Sanders even do? Like what are you paying him
for to call timeouts and drop a challenge flag? He's not,
he's not coaches x's and o's and the pros like,
he's not.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And it was he bringing with him?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like at the end of the day, your staff is
gonna what keep Mike Zimmer whose defense was hot garbage
and bring in Punk Shermer.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
To run the offense. I mean, this is this is ludicrous.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
What would it be hilarious?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Though?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's actually like that you.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Had you know, she Shermer running an offense, uh, and
then it was like it just was like, uh, you know,
like glitzed up because Dion was.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
The head coach. I mean that would be sort of amazing. Yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I mean, like if you when you sort of think
through it practically. There's a lot of things that just don't.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Add up about it.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
But I mean it's coaching, search Steven. What's the fun
in thinking practically through things?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Well? Right?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And that's that's how it goes. You fire Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Uh, too late for you to be able to do
any interviews with the Kansas City or or Dallas staffs
and uh and and cost yourself that and now you're uh,
you're over here chatting up your buddy Deon Sanders, who
you're not gonna pay the you you you benched Cooper Rushy.
You wouldn't pay two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus
for playing him.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
You're gonna you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Bring it, pay an eight million dollars buyout to bring
Deon Sanders over to Dallas.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Get out of here. This is just ludicrous.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And I've watching Twitter meltdown over this.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Colorado fans don't even pay this any attention. This is Deon.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Leveraging for a better contract uh than than he's got,
which he'll probably get. Turning to the Denver Broncos probably
a bitterly disappointing end to what overall has to be
considered a successful season.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, definitely, I mean the one hundred percent. I couldn't
have said it better.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I mean, it's a successful season. They're ahead of where
a lot of people thought they were going to be.
I think they answered, you know that they have plenty
of questions going forward, but they answered a bunch this
year or too, and so, like I think I wrote
about this like going into the game against Buffalo, Like
I think if you go back and think about what
the conversation was a year ago right now and when Sean.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Payte and George Payton had their you know, end of season.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
News conference, like there was legitimately it was sort of silly,
but there was legitimately people that were surprised. When George
Payton was at the postseason news conference last year, he
walked in and he made a joke about how, oh
my wife's here, it must.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Be a big deal.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
When he sat down, and then like you knew Russ
was out, you didn't know what.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The answer was going to be there. You knew, you
know a lot.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Of things, but there were just a there was a
lot of questions.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
About out how the y off season was going to fall.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Into place where they were going to find a quarterback,
what the defense was going to look like, you know,
all of these things, and so in a lot of ways,
they answered a lot of questions this year. Obviously Bronicks
played well for the most part, and so like on
you go, doesn't mean there's not still a lot to do,
doesn't mean that it didn't hurt for those guys to
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lose in the.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Playoffs and lose the way they did on Sunday. But
like you.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Said, I mean the building blocks in place, sort of
a course set for the future, and I think obviously
probably a much healthier place the roster in the organization
finds itself than I think you could have forecast twelve
months ago.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Talking with Parker Gabriel and Parker J.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Gabriel on Twitter, as we look at some of the
instant emotional reaction from what it was a beat down
frankly by Buffalo, a lot of fans out here, more
than I would have suspected, are clamoring for the Alster advance. Joseph,
a guy who turned around this defense from the seventy
point Tobaco against Miami to one of the top units
in the league that it is now. Are you in
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any way entertaining this fire advanced Joseph thing.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Not really, I mean, no, I think one of the things.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
And you know, players are not players make.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
The game go right, and players are not always the
best judge. But there are.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Instances where I think that a fair.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Question to ask is like, what would the locker room.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Think if you made that move?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
And the defensive guys love him and they think he's great,
and they think he did a good job, and they
put it on themselves to go out and execute you know,
game plans and stuff like that, and I just think
like if you ask Zach Allen that question, he would
be like, well, maybe he wouldn't be here next year
because he gets the head coaching job, but like, of
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course not, why would you do that? And so to me,
like that's they're not always the perfect sort of like
information setter, decision making set But I know that, you know,
every single defensive player would think that that was a
ludicrous idea. And I don't know, We'll see, you know,
we'll see how the rest of the off season goes.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
But I think sometimes we get.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
The hand ringing about how do you keep this guy,
how do you move that guy? So on and so
forth and like sometimes you entertain those things. But to me,
like I think that they'll work hard to keep together
as much as the staff as possible. Maybe they'll lose
a couple of guys, maybe they'll make a tweak or two.
But if you were drawing up a list of issues
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with the Broncos this year, I don't think vance Joseph.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Would be near the top of it.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, I mean, in those are the top ten things
necessarily that I would advance is the guy who brought in,
you know, Zach Allen. That's his guy, you know, you know,
piss Off Argualy, your best defensive player. You know who's
by the way, you're going to be in a contract
year next year in an effort to do I mean,
I don't know makes sense to me, But that's that's
beside the point.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Let's look at you talk about changing some things up.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
A couple of players that that are on that you
got Nick Benito, who needs a contract extension, Zach, but
Zach Allen.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Needs a contract extension.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I think JFM tiged a two year deal when he
got traded here, so you probably have the top that
off put another year on it. Meanwhile, you've got Courtland Sutton,
the guy who held out, you know early on on
some workouts and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
They kind of spiffed them a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
There you are, you keeping Courtland Sutton around at twenty
plus million when when you've got so many other things
you need to do.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, it's a great question.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I think it's one of the that's probably one of
the biggest questions of the offseason. I mean, I think,
I mean they're gonna. I think they'll take action on
the contract one way or another, right, and it's it's
at this point it's either you're letting them go or
or you're giving them a real extension. And I said
the same thing about Garrett Bowles, and they ended up
doing the extension.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So this isn't like a guarantee.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
But they've had a lot of chances to extend quote
sudden contract.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
They've had chances where it would have helped.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Them cap wise to extend his contra I've been so
far at each of those junctures they have not done that.
And so for a while, that was the way it
was with Garrett Bowles, and Garrett Bowles won you know,
Sean Payton over and you're in the extension. Could the
same thing happened with Courtland sudden? Yeah, it could, But
I just to me, it's like Champagne's never been a
guy that has, you know, wanted to put premium dollars
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into the wide receiver position, you know, more than.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
He has to.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
And so like one of the questions is where are
they going.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
To be aggressive and free agency?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And if the answer is wide receiver, then I can't
see how they're going to go pay somebody big money
and extend Courtland.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
So you know it's going to be an interesting few
weeks on that front.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I'm I guess I'll be a little I've all I've
been saying I'd be a little surprised if they kept
in wrong term, And I.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Suppose I'm still in that camp.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Even though he had a really nice year.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
But if they do move on, they better have a
plan for high how you know they envisioned building that room?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Tom A.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Parker Gabriel at Parker Jay Gabriel, would you would you
be okay with von Vla moving over to the ex
receiver there?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, but you know I think that you know, I
could be wrong about this, but if you're if you're
talking about a room that is, you know mems Veley,
you know Franklin and little Jordan Humphrey. Like I I'm
wondering if that's enough firepower. Right, Like, obviously MIM's like
really came on and they will benefit greatly if he
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stayed down the trajectory that he showed.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
The last you know, seven or so six or seven
weeks of the season. But to me, it's like, so
if you do.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That, are you then are you then talking about trying
to go spend top of the market money on somebody,
or you're talking about drafting a guy in the first
couple of rounds, or are we saying that, you know,
Men's Vele Franklin is the bedrock of a group that's
going to help bo Nix elevate over the over the
next couple of years.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I tend to follow that too.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I mean, in that scenari what you're probably bring Juwan
Johnson into a free agency at tight end, and then
you're probably using new draft picks on both tight ends
and wide receiver in addition to running back as you
continue building the thing out.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You know, I don't know it just you look at
the market.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Courtland Suton's gonna get somewhere between twenty four and twenty
eight a you know, a p y and I just
don't know if.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
The Broncos can afford that relative to the other things
that they need to do in a day.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You look at this team, you look at the weeklyaks
on defense, they probably need a new free safety, you know, PJ.
Lock was was fun that that was the obvious weekly
ink in the secondary this year. You know, you, like
I said, you're probably gonna have to get a real
nose tackle DJ Field inaborrably, but he's a little undersized
for that. You saw what happened when teams want to
go power on you. Uh, and he's gonna cost too
much anyway. It's probably a casualty. So there are needs
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still on this team that aren't necessarily on the offensive
side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, And I think you know, obviously they they're gonna
want to get athletic and maybe young and athletic and
inside linebacker too. You just like you can't draft everybody
right like you want to be able to draft everybody.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
But from where they're sitting, there's still.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
A couple full classes away from being that sort of
like young, cheap talented roster and so like, I don't
maybe a flawed way to think about it.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I've thought of of sort.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Of like running back, tight end, and receiver offensive skill positions.
There's maybe like, you know, two and two in the
draft and one in free agency.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
That doesn't mean you.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Don't like cross pollinate there where maybe you sign you know,
you sign a receiver that's cheaper or whatever.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
But how you know, this is one thing that Champagne.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And George Payton have been really good at the last
couple of years is identifying draft strengths and then pro
scouting strength and figuring out their plan from there. Like,
they didn't like the defensive line depth in the draft
last year, so they signed Malcolm Roach and they and
they you know, they fleece the Jets for John Frinkle
Myers and so like, if they decide that they like,
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you know, maybe a receiver that's available, maybe you spend
a little bit of money there and you do the
other you.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Know, the other skill positions in the draft, or.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Maybe it's there's a running back out there they like,
and so you know, they signing free age and ky
and they do the draft on the other two and
so like, and then you're right I mean defensively, they've
got some holes to fill too, So it's a big list.
But obviously they're sort of starting, I think from a
better place financially and you know, roster foundation wise than
a year ago.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I yeah, and I tend to agree with that. What
is the expectation now? Has the bar been raised? We
talked about this team sort of sneaking up on people
this year. You had to you know, a five and
a half wins total of the sports books and you know,
and all that kind of stuff. Next year, you got
a tougher schedule. You got the NFC East on the schedule.
That's gonna be a yeah, that's gonna be tougher. And
you know, I don't think you're sneaking up on anybody
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next year. I think everybody's prepared for what it is
to bring it at them. Bow Nicks is going to
have a year's where the tape, the defensive coordinators are gonna.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Have a whole offseason to look at that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
As we look forward to next year, the expectation for
the fan base is now gonna be playoffs.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Is that going to be fair going forward? I think so?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I mean, you know, and look like you could you could.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Be ten and seven again and be a better team
that's better equipped to win the postseason. There's a lot
of ways to you know, they won. They won all
the games they were supposed to win this year and
not many of the ones they weren't supposed to and
so like, you know, you could mix the match a
little bit there. You know, some every team at some
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point is going to lose a game they have no
business winning, and most teams at some point are going
to win a game they have no business winning.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
And the Broncos were really.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Pretty remarkably averse to either of those things.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Like they they almost gave away a couple they shouldn't
but they didn't.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
And then you know, they almost won a couple of
games that you would have said, like, man, that is
a really good win, and for the.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Most part they didn't.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
So you know that, I just think you can.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You can get to nine and eight, ten and seven
a lot of different ways, and so, you know, I
think that's sort of that's where I would baseline the
expectation next year. But you could be in that same
you know, six seven seed range and be better equipped
than they were this year to go win a game.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
In a place like Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Talking with Parker Gabriel, Uh, yeah, you know, I think
so I look forward to this next season with some
some cautious optimism they can keep this thing going. If
they can they can shore up certain uh you know,
certain holes on the roster, as it were, as you
look at the Buffalo things, it's just a case of
a you know, a team being outmatched.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
And also I thought, you know, I thought they they
looked at times like a team that hadn't been on
that stage before. And I don't mean that as like
withering criticism, but true.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
You know, like the personal fouls, like you know, the Brandon.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Jones play like that. That's a that's a penalty, but
it's also a tough play. It happens fast, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Nick Bonito at one point shoved the guy in the
back after play and didn't.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Get flagged for it. They just there were times where
it looked like they hit the big punch. They landed
a big punch early, and then it was almost like, okay,
what do we do with this? And Buffalo, like the
Buffalo's credit obviously, they just showed no sign of panic.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
They're like, okay, yours ten trade first downs and ten points.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
You know, like, and that's the kind of that's the
kind of way that that Denver just had. They haven't
learned to play that way yet, or maybe they're just
not good enough to play that way yet. And either way,
where maybe you get in a game like that in
the regular season or maybe you don't in the postseason.
When you're playing that team, they are going to do
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that to you and you have to be able to
do it back. And at this point the Broncos, you know,
aren't able.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Well, yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I think we're hoping that that they're able to fill
in the game. For me, I thought getting blown out
in the playoffs was actually a good thing. You know,
at the end of the day, I think nobody wants
that from a fan base perspective, but from a from
a team perspective, getting to the stage and getting blown
off that stage gets the real guy the guys want
to be winn looking at that thing saying hey, wait, okay,
that's what greatness looks like. I want a piece of that.
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What do I got to do this all season to
get there?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
You concur yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
And not only that, but like everybody like you talked
about me and talk to players all the time. Then like,
talk to any player and they will tell you the
speed of the game is different from preseason, regular season,
regular season to postseason postseason to Super.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Bowl whatever, but like it is good for you know,
Bo Nix, for Devon Beley, for Riley Moss, for anybody
on the roster to be in that game and to
see what it looks like.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And then you know, not only they're like what do
I have to do to get to that level, but like, Okay,
I've felt that, I know what it's like, and maybe
the next time.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
You know, you don't get three preseason.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Games and seventeen regular season games, you get to feel
it for four quarters or maybe eight if you if
you find a way to win a game, or twelve
or whatever. But like you, you don't.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Get much postseason experience.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
So any postseason experience just have to be really beneficial
to you over the off season and then and then
use it next.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Time you get there.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Parker, looking forward to talking to you again as this
team continues to build things out this offseason, and looking
forward to talking again down the line.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Take care, Parker, Gabriel we'll be back after this five
six six nine zero used.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The text and I want to thank JP Acosta for
joining us in the last hour, Parker Gabriel for joining
us in the past sec.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Maybe there's any part of that.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
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Speaker 1 (18:33):
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Speaker 1 (18:39):
We'll get there and you can do that, and they've
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Speaker 2 (18:42):
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you can leave us a voicemail messages.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
We haven't done those lately. We need to get the
talk back feature back. Going back, we get that. We
had all the good drops.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
From that too, Stacy from Utah dropping the carrot cake thing.
That's an all the time. That was an all the time,
but we werecked him. It was it rome racking. We
wracked him immediately after that. That was a great When
we put that in the rotation, profits got a a
hater dropping there. That's pretty good. We've got some good
stuff in there. Well, what's the big that back up
with that, Let's.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Get to the NFL six.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Pack it's time for the NFL six Pat, I'm going
to take a lot insight and insight information you can't
find anywhere else, I know, six the top six NFL headlines.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
What all right?
Speaker 7 (19:22):
First up here, we've been talking some Dallas Cowboys today,
more so Deon Sanders. But that's the result of the
Dallas Cowboys deciding they're not going to be bringing Mike
McCarthy back. A bit surprising because they rejected the Bear's
request to interview McCarthy for their head coaching job.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Now they're kind of screwing over all their assistance with
this whole mess. Just in general.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Deanna Side, what do you think about how the Dallas
Cowboys are handling this coaching situation?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Well, I think everybody's talking about Dion instead.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Of how Dallas is handling this whole situation.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
P T.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Barnum's back with with Jerry getting the attention where he
wants it instead of where he doesn't want it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
This is the same owner that pinched the quarterback that
carried him through the last third of the season to
avoid paying them a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus
for playtime. He was at fifty two percent need to
get to fifty five percent for that bonus. You just
cheated them out of it by sitting them to put
Trey Lance in there. You know, Dallas has had a
poorer and poorer reputation as time goes along with the
Jones family doing that stuff and more and more fans
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of turning on that they're turning on.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
The way that you does.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They basically sat out free agency, created unnecessary drama with
Ceedee Lamb and Dak Prescott's contracts, and go by the
way costs themselves a ton of money waiting to let
the market reset itself to pay those things.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But they didn't have to do that.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Part of that comes from the fact that your contract
manager guy used to you know, used to run like
a waffle house or whatever, like that's his only other experience.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
That'stead of working for the Dallas Cowboys. So you know,
it's it's it's it's frustrating to watch when.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You've got professional organizations out there.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Doing the right thing and you get them. You know,
you got the.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Dallas Cowboys out there just just being ridiculous for the
sake of being ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
As far as that goes, who wants it. Who's gonna
want that job? You're hamstrung already, your your your cap tight.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You probably can't afford Michael Parsons without some some kaponomics.
And if you do pay that, well, then you're gonna
be hamstrung as far as signed anybody else.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So what you see is what you get. Oh, by
the way, the standard, you just.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Had a coach who came in there and had a
better than sixty percent winning percentage, Well he was there.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's a standard. You got the ball on that. You know,
you get anounced it early. So if you're a first
time coach, you're probably not taking that because that's your shot.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And if you're a second time coach, you know enough
to know to avoid it. You basically got to be
desperate at this point. And so you want somebody, it's
gonna be somebody who's gonna want a five or six
year deal to make sure.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
They cash in.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
The only guy I can think of out there that
makes sense with all that criterion is John Ruden.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Wow, you think John Gruden could come back into the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I think that's the one place that it would would
or could happen. Wow, you know, I mean John Gruden
sitting there went Barstool right now. Yeah, I mean that's
a joke where the coach working for Barstool.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
He says he's feeling nicey Ben, he's feeling what nice?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Have you not seen the videos?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I don't watch Barstool content ever since said that producer
live about me six years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So I don't subscribe their consent. I mean it's I mean,
it's like, you know, you're working for a third rate
a joke outlet. Yeah, I mean it is. That's what
it is.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's a joke outlet for a teenager and early twenties
guys who you know, they're still like fort humor like that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That's that's what barstool is two.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Talking about some early twenty something guys here. The Senior
Bowl roster has officially been announced for this upcoming Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Some notable quarterbacks figure Broncos Country.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Thankfully might not be familiar with these guys this time around.
Jalen Milroe, Dylan Gabriel, Jackson, Dart Riley, Leonard, Will Howard
and Tyler show Scheff. I don't know the show are
the Senior Bowl roster quarterbacks? Do you think any of
these quarterback prospects could help loose their stock enough to
go in.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
The first round. Maybe Jackson Dart. None of the rest
of these guys are going in the first round. You know,
people have talked about Milroe, but he he might be
a position change. He might move to running back in
the NFL. Riley Leonard's not playing quarterback in the NFL.
The rest of these guys, I mean, Dylan Gabriel, he's
a he's a Day three guy. Will Howard, I mean,
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maybe that's one of those ones that's kind of high variants.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You really gotta believe in and Will Howard if you do,
then okay. And Tyler Scheffs is this guy Jackson Dart
maybe you know.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And you've got Shor going to the Shrine games through
the Senior Bowl, which is an interesting move, uh for
for him.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Yeah, a lot of you guys decided to make that
to go to the Shrine games through the Senior bowlders's
frett to deal with the Shrine gamer or what they do.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
But there's other thing. I'll they'll let that off here.
Sounds great.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
The Baltimore Ravens and Buffalo Bills both advanced this week
with some amazing performances from Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen
to front runners for this year's MVP Award that they're
now squaring off against each other in the divisional round.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Which of these.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Two teams do you think projects to be the bigger
challenge to the Kansas City Chiefs and the AFC championship
that'ssuming the Chiefs beat the Texans this weekend.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think the team that.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I think is the bigger challenge is the team I
think is gonna lose. I think the Ravens are a
bigger challenge to Kansas City than Buffalo is.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And I still think Buffalo is going to beat Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think that I'm not sure that they can beat
Baltimore the way the Baltimore plays, and this.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Is just fascinating to me.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I mean, it's it's all, you know, obviously hypotheticals or whatever,
but the way that the Ravens do things on offense
I think presents Kansas City with the most amount of
challenges versus you know, at the same time, what Buffalo
does I think works against Baltimore, and I think they
know how to slow down the.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Baltimore attack.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
So I.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Tend to think that.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I think Bubble is gonna win that game, and I
think the Ravens would have given the Chiefs bigger.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Fits, bad news for Broncos country.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Then I don't think anyone in Bronco's country wants to
see that three piece.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I mean, I don't care one way or the other.
Four not in it. Who cares, you know? Therefore put it.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Let him win so that next year, if we beat him,
it's that mu sweeter, we're beating the best.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Four Each of the Washington Commanders, your guy Dan Quinn
clutch game situations. Each of the Commander's last five wins
on their current winning streak have.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Come down to the final play of the game.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Do you think they can keep this cardiac Commander's streak
rolling into Detroit against the one seed and maybe pluffing upset.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I mean, that's a tough ass.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Detroit is one of the best teams in football, so
that's a very tough ask that said. I mean, you know,
I said Tim Tebow couldn't keep doing it, and then
he did, you know, until he couldn't.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I guess when he ran into New England.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But in that vision around right next week, it was like, yeah, bro,
and it's not just these five games of coming out
of the last play they hail Mary against Chicago or
whatever they came down to the last, but they have
been a cardiaf foot that clutch gene, man, I mean,
they've got it. There's a point where like once you're lucky,
you know, once happens, Okay, it happens two or three times,
you're lucky, five or six times, You're like, okay, this
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is a pattern, Like you have something, and they've got
whatever that clutch gene is.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
They've got it. You know, they find ways at the
end of the day to make things happen. So you know,
I'll give them a bet. I'll give a puncher's chance
against Detroit. I don't know what the line's gonna open
at or what the line opened out on that probably
about eight and a half. I would assume i'd have
to go back and look.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
But I you know, as far as the commanders go,
I'll give a punch of chance.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I know, I've never doubted the power of my dude,
Dan Quinn.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Yeah, and talk about that clutch gene. It seems like
Jaydon Daniels has it in spades. I've got that line
for you here. Detroit opens up early as an eight
and a half point favorite.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
That was my guest.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
So Raven is actually a one point favorite against the Bills.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I believe that, and I believe that line will continue
to go in the Ravens favor with the betting public.
But I believe the sharps will be on Buffalo. We'll
see how that plays out of the court. We'll keep
our eye on that. You see how that plays out
of the week.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I like it.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Spot five.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Aj Brown was spotted on the sidelines of the Eagles
playoff victory this past week reading a book. It was
like a self help book. Finished the game with just
one catch for ten yards. The self help book much
Better Stats, started the weekend number five and twenty two
thousand on Amazon's bestsellers list. Now it's number one. What
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do you think of Brown's actions to performatively reader or
maybe he was really reading the self help book.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
On the sideline.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Do you think it's at all a way of maybe
sending a message to the coaching staff or Hurt's.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
About get me the ball. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I don't know what it would be other than if
that's what you need to motivate yourself to play better, Okay,
I mean, if that's what you need to motivate yourself
to get up for every play, you got to read
some dude telling you stuff you should innately know, you know,
for me, like self help books, I.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Look at that stuff all the time.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I'm like, these are guys, you guys telling you stuff
you should just know, like duh, you know. They just
find ways to feel phrase it to to make it resonate,
I guess. And if that's what you need, that's what
you need. That's that's never you know, I've never been
a proponent of that, but you know, if that's what
works for you, I'm not gonna If it works for you.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
As far as it goes and getting the you know,
you're becoming a best seller.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Good for that author or whatever, hopefully they make some
money off it. The rest of this stuff, I don't
know what message would you be sending, like, you know,
what messages he would he be sending by reading that,
Other than I'm motivating myself through whatever this is.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I think it's less to do with the book and
maybe just reading on that.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
I've never seen a player do that before, so to me,
is it the disengagement? Nick Ferguson on k WAE Sports
were saying, maybe some form of peaceful protest to try
and send.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
A message on that front.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I can't make two and two work here.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Six K J.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Lot of the Pittsburgh Steelers, following their disappointing loss to
the Baltimore Ravens this past weekend, said it's time for
the Steelers to have some tough conversations.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Do you think it's time for the Steelers to make some.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Dramatic changes to their operation, and if so, what do
you think those changes should be.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I think they do need to make some I think
they need to look at the operation because they've been
a tunneling team, right They've been stuck in that in
the purgatory. They've been stuck at We're better than five hundred,
we make the playoffs, but that's really it. That's what
we are, and they need to ask themselves why that
is and what can we do to get to the
next step. What are the reasons we're not there? Why
are we losing, how are we losing who are we
losing too? Why are we losing to those teams, and
(29:50):
you know, you need to ask themselves those questions and
find the answers to that. If you're able to do that,
if you're able to identify those things, okay, cool. I
always like to you know that we need to ask
some tough conversations. You know, well, everybody has to have time.
Everybody has the same tough conversations at the end of
the year. I mean, if you're vocalizing it, cool, but
everybody has these conversations. Everybody's asking themselves, if they didn't win,
how do we win?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And if they did win, how do we keep winning?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
And everybody's having tough conversations about what do we gotta
do to this roster. You know, we're gonna have to
cut so and so to save money, or we're gonna
have to bring in such and such to get better.
What do we gotta do and so? You know, I
mean that kind of stuff. It's funny. You got a
lot of you know, there's a lot of cliches that
get spouted in this in this arena. But to me,
I mean, everybody's having those conversations. The Steelers need to
have them. They are a frankly a middling organization. They're
(30:33):
just good enough to get to the playoffs, but not
good enough to do anything with that.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And it's been that way for a long time. Mike
Tomlin does not have a playoff win.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And the entire career of Kyle Shanahan the head coach,
so that's why Shanahan has been a head coach.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Mike Tomlin has not won a playoff game.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
That's a remarkable stat. I mean, Sin's twenty seventeen. That's
that's really crazy. Yeah, And I guess, so do you
think they should move on from Mike Tomlin?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
And what about the quarterback where we differ? Do you
think they should move on from Russ? I do not.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I think they should run it back with those guys
unless there's some kind of better option they believe if
are they going to get real Arthur Smith, you know,
I mean, if you keep it on the Smith, you
need to basically keep Russell Fields. I mean, because that's
the only guys that are really going to be able
to execute that offense. And and Fields is not better
than Russell Wilson. So don't like whoever that is. I
can already hear somebody out the Fields they did he
was terrible, So they benched him and put Russ in a.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
Best winning percentage of any Tomlin quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
If you think it was Justin winning those games and
not that defense, I harken you back to him coming
to Denver here and if you think it was him
winning that game, watching, we got to see up close
in personal that Justin Fields won nit And to put
it in better context, his coaches see him every day.
They see both of them every day and they're like, yeah, nope,
we're going with this guy over here. We're going with
(31:48):
mister unlimited missus Ciarra. Sorry but wait on that one.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
They every day they look at Russell Wilson and Justin
Fields and ask themselves who gives themselves, who gives them
the better chance to win? And they go the guy
that gives them a better chance to win, and that's
Russell Wilson. Russ gives them a better chance to win.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You know what they need to do.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Upgrade the offensive line, upgrade the receiving corps. Get you
any viable pass catching weapon other than George Pickens, who's
so mercurial you never know which version of George Pickens
is showing up game to game.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
Yeah, a little more reliable option there, I think would
be much needed for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yea Pickens is like Antonio Brown with less talent. Yes,
that's you know. I mean, he's just a head case.
You never know what, you know what, which guy is
showing up? The old world guy or the.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Guy that's just so disinterested in playing that you know,
he looks like he's wearing boxing gloves every time he
tries to catch a ball. Don't anyway, I have thoughts
just saying, Rocos Country Night pulls on a
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