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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Walk back to a Broncos Country Today's All Bright, Dick Ferguson,
Grant Smith here with you. Five six six nine zero
is the text line. Thanks to Steve Atwater for joining
us in the first hour. Thanks to Ryan Michael for
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(00:20):
and redesigned iHeartRadio app. Well you get to take it
for Granted podcast as well. A new episode just dropped.
Get your tissues ready, keep a box of I recommend
the ala Vero Kleenex. It's got the alo in the Kleenex.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's got the ala in the Kleenix. Yeah, you get
loationed while you're crying, right, so you don't rub the
paper and then rub a ross spot in your nose.
It didn't moisturize.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hold on, man, isn't that stuff like getting to your
tear ducks and your eyes and burn.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, you're not putting tissue directly in your eyeball. I
mean well, I.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Mean your your tears come out to your tear ducks.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Some people actually stick the tissue, right, but your dad
below the eyeball and then you know, you get the
moisturizer right there.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I don't know about that. Yeah, it's great when you
have running nose or something. Especially, Yeah, when you're sick,
you get the running nose. You're not crying. Do you
put vasiline right there? Don't need to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
The ali vera puts it red in It's a natural
plant puts it red in there.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Let's be a fan of this. Yeah, you're all naturally
you want to put the.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Chemical vaciline into there, but you're not doing the natural
alveras even a box from here.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
But it's the one with the what's the one with
the body snatcher? So yeah, we got a body snatcher
Dick Ferguson in here.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm just I'm just saying, I know how used you
have a cold? Wiping too much when you're wrong on
your nose, it gets a little dry. And obviously talking
about clean aches and alabara just took me back to
when I was a kid. My mom had like this
this remedy, right, And I don't know where.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
It came from.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I think maybe mom's passing down, But I mean he
was always chicken soup Cambo's chicken soup.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Put all that damn sodium.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
In it, right, Canada dry ginger real right, has no
ginger in it?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Nope at all. Right, So the Redheads aren't cattibalizing themselves.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
No, no.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
And then it was Vic's vapor roupe. The rub it
on your chest and on your throat. Yeah, an old
old time cure for the dark agent.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'll tell you man, that's what My mom would just
stick their hand in that little bluetube and just come
out with a hand full of.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
U And it was right. I put it on your chest,
in your back, and they were like you good. See
in the hells of Ohio. My parents would just give
me a little shot of whiskey, shut me up, and
you go right to see your throat. How does that help?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Try to picture hand your old grant looking for the
pappy that wapel back there.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I got a cold. We were a little too poor
for that. We were more of a gym bean family.
Give it the bird the wild.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Wait, Gray, that's one hell of a remedy because I've never.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Heard of that before.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Now, Pappy's warl cross syrup, you never heard that. No,
you do the you do the you know the lemon
and honey. You think you said you put a little
shot of bourbon in there?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Never yeah, oh yeah, yes, lemon and honey burbon, not
some right out of your throat just too. That's right,
So I can grow this beard, and then that's right that.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I was denied the alcohol version. So that way, that's
the remedy for Ben. If you want to grow in
space your.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Hair, it's a lemon, honey and subourbon. That's why forty
years old it looks like I have alopecia.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Five six text slide speaking of Dry, the Rocks run
game coming up? Dry, who's gonna be here next year?
I mean, that's the May figures to be here because
he's on the rookie deal. But are we bringing Javonte
Julil back? Do we need a clean house?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
What do we need to do here?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I don't believe that you need to uh necessarily clean house.
I think the first thing to do before you come
up with that idea, Ben, is go back and reevaluate
what's been going on with the running back position and say, well, well,
these guys are not adequate enough to get the job done.
Because when you look at Javonte Williams. Right, like when

(03:54):
he first came into the league. Obviously he rushed for
almost almost thousand yards or four touchdowns. He suffers the injuries,
a lot of things happened that changed a little bit
as far as how the team utilized his ability.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
But I mean, he had the.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Same amount of touchdowns this year as he had in
year one, and two of those touchdowns he got on
a Thursday night game against the New Orleans Saints against.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
The team that was short handed, shorthanded, notorious for giving
up plays. And by the way, that was the.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
First time all season a long that Jafonte actually scored
a rushing touchdown.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
So my question is, here's a bigger question.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, you look at the fact that that the Broncos
have not had a thousand, nine thousand yard rusher one
hundred yard rusher in a game. That's right in the
Champagnon errawor the last time they did it was with
the Sean Payton's guy and he did it. There you go.
Latavious Murray was the last person, right, And do you

(04:54):
remember what happened during that time, because Latavious rushed for
I think one hundred and three yards against Arizona then
they play the Rams on Christmas Day and that's when Nata.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
You got diausted because you had the offensive line fighting
Brent Rippan on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, zact, let it rip our hYP Yes.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
So that's kind of crazy to know that the Broncos
haven't had a one hundred yard rusher in a single
game from a single player since twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
It barely had fifty yard rushers all year. Uh you
look at you look at the running backs this year.
Javonte Everage thirty yards a game, Chili leverage thirty one
yards a game. Estimate twenty three yards a game. That
doesn't even it barely adds up to one.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Hundred by itself. Okay, but my biggest question doesn't add
up to one hundred. It does my math. So even
if you were to that's eighty four yards a game
between the three of them, exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
So, even if you want to change the running backs
for the Denver Broncos, right, you got to change the
philosophy as well. And what I mean by that is
going back and watching a Buffalo game I find to
be refrustrating to watch. Savante gets a carry rush for
five yards, He's taken out. You had taler Berday come in,

(06:10):
he rushed for seven yards and he's taken out.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
And I'm trying to understand.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
What's the overall ideology associated with it.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
If you can help me out, those out there listening.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
To the show, help me understand, because I don't understand it,
because I thought the idea was keep the ball away
from Josh Allen by running the ball, right what we
saw Coach Payton actually write that on his call sheet.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Run it, but it's you're not utilizing your running.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Backs, and everyone's asking the question as to why it
isn't really truly the running backs like the ability to
run the ball.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Is that the reason that.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
The Broncos have been ineffective as far as having a
hundred yard rusher over the past two seasons.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I mean, I don't know. I think it's more scheme.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I think it's more play call than it is, UH player,
because we've seen these guys be able to get these
kinds of yards when they're given enough to be able
to do it. My problem here is you're gonna have
to go to the draft to address this.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
UH.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
To add to the room. You can't add to the room.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
There's no but First of all, in free agency's not
gonna be anybody to add what are you gonna add
Naji Harris on a nine million dollar deal in a
paying that especially not really run what would you what
would you add? You know, I mean the Aaron Jones,
Naji Harris, those are the top two guys. After that,
it drops off a cliff, Jeff Wilson, AJ Dillon, the
ghost of Nick Chubb, Like that's that's what we're doing.

(07:38):
I mean, And then you've got Alexander Madison and then
you get into a whole slew of nobody's after that,
Like it's it's the free agent running back group here.
There's there's nobody that you want out of this group.
So what are you gonna have to go to the
draft if you're gonna do that? And I know you
get everybody their mother talking about asking Janty. First of all,
I don't think he's there guy. Second of all, I
don't think he's gonna be there to me, if you're

(08:01):
looking at guys that sort of fit the mold of
what Sean Payton wants. O Marion Hampton out of North Carolina,
Caleb Johnson and Iowa Judkins at Ohio State those guys
kind of fit the body types when you start to
look at that Nick Singleton's going back to school.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
By the way, if you want like a bruising.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
North South guy, maybe Khalil Mullings out of Michigan.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know, he's six two two thirty.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
But it's like there's just not there's not a lot
of room here, So it's gonna have to be you'd
have to make a commitment to get these guys going,
which and you'd think that Sean Pate would recognize that
because his most successful seasons came when they had a
strong rushing attack, not when they were slinging the ball
over the ark.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
But being for me, it doesn't make a difference what's
running back you bring in here, right, veteran or riocky.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
They're not gonna use them enough.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
If there's not a steady commitment to utilizing that player's skills,
it really makes no sense. And the way that I
look at it from a defensive standpoint, it's not all
about how many carry there's a single running back actually
received in a given season or a given game to
me's touches, Right, I told granted this before, I look

(09:10):
at it like it's fantasy football. I need to get
this guy as many touches as possible because now you
put that on the hearts and minds of preparation for
defensive coordinators and players.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
We have to stop this guy.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
And it's not just about you know, getting in the
bare front and what I mean by that is gapped
out across the board and you're just gonna clog up
every gap and you're gonna say, well, we're gonna force
you to plug with.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
One hand tied behind your back.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, you need a guy that's like a Chase Brown, right, Well,
you can give it to on an outside zone, you
run gap scheme with him, but also you can flex
him out and you can match him up with safeties
and linebackers and you know you still can win. That's
the evolution of what I would love to see this
Broncos usage, not running, the usage of their running back.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Get to Yeah. And for me, I mean, I think
that's the thing. Excuse me, I want to see I
want to see them use the.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Running backs more because that's really sort of where we're
at with this thing. It's it was obvious that the
plan or what should have been the plan to to
beat Buffalo was keep the ball out of the Bill's
hands so they can't run it downhill on you, and
we did the opposite of that. We came out with
the deep strike. Okay, you got them on their heels
with the Troy Franklin thing. Congratulations, you got him.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Happened.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Now we need to go to the ground game. Now
we need to establish that. Now we need to get
that going. Now we need to have sustained lengthy drives.
We scored two and a half minutes off the thing,
and then we never scored again. The closest we came
was clanking a fifty plus yard field goal off the upright.
It was I mean, whatever happened from here's the plan
to in the game?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
That changed, Like I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
And I don't understand if it's you know, again, is
this all on play calling, because it feels like that
there's some missed backside cuts at times as well.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
But you know, I don't know. You're going to have
to run the ball to be successful.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
And Sean Payton's winningest seasons came from when they had
a top rushing attack, So what's the problem with doing that?
Was this just about getting Bonux reps because I'm coming
up dry when I'm looking for answers, Well, you were.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Coming up dry, just like the balance in the run
game for the Broncos came up dry and you gotta
sprink some water on it.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Man, you got to plan some seeds right, water.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
That grass because ideas, wherever you water the grass using
the grass actually grows.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
And you need to do that with the run game.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Now, I will say this to you know, Coach Payton's
offensive credit is that that going back and watching in
the games, not just the Buffalo game, but the games
over the season, there was some creativity that eventually started
to evolve that we saw Marvin MAM's kind of utilizing
the scheme, and I was thinking, okay, well, this is

(11:58):
what I was anticipating.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
The time, this is what I wanted.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
More like, when there's a positive play, you know, the
part of me as a fan, I thirst for more.
And when the well is tapped off and some guitars
out the like, I get a little frustrated. I get
a little frustrated because I'm like, there's your juice right there, right,
utilize the juice. And I would have loved to see
Marvin Mims utilize more in a vertical passing game. Yeah,

(12:22):
because when you do that, you open up more of
the run lanes. Because that is something that defensive coordinators
have to think about.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
When you put Marvin Mims in the backfield, it tells
the safeties to come down.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's coming to him. He's not going vertical from the backfield.
Come down, especially after.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
What we've seen over the past couple of weeks with
going you know, you go back to the Chargers game,
the Bengals game in Kansas City Chiefs game, and I
was looking for and when you.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
And I talked about a particular play, it was in a.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Second quarter, nine minutes and forty eight seconds, right.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
After you ripped off a six yard run with Chavante
and then what are you doing throwing the ball behind
the line of script image to Marvin Mims in the backfield?
As you pointed out on it, defense is on alert.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
And the first that once again when I when I
watch film and I tell Ryan Edwards this because sometimes
Ryan thinks that, well, he said, Nick, you're kind of
like Ben And I was like, what do you mean,
I'm kind of like Ben right all the time.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, well, we know that.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
But the idea is just like, well, well Ben loves
to just kind of pile on coach Fagan.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I say, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I can't change the defensive eyes that I develop over
the years, and I look at and I evaluate games
based on that. Like if you tell me you and
the shotgun, you got Marvin Mims in the backfield offset
to the left and Javonte to the right, and I
know for three games you've been using him a certain
way and the swing passes and then he goes from

(13:49):
left to right and he's swinging. I'm like, something's up.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Something something is up.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
So with that being said, use your strengths to your
advantage on as though you're gonna draw the defense.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I was waiting on that particular play.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
I was thinking, Okay, well maybe Bo's gonna fake it,
throw it downfield, or he's gonna throw it to Marvin,
and Marvin's gonna throw it downfield, right, But none of.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
None of that materialized. It didn't, and he had the
lost three yards and I was like, dang it.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
And it took an opportunity to put you back behind
the chains in an area where you were in plus territory.
You can't you can't throw the ball behind the line
of scrimmage. One, once you cross the fifty, you should
never throw the ball behind the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
You just shouldn't. It's very rare place where you're gonna
do it.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
A third and long after you've gotten knocked back, you
might run a screenplay, but you're not throwing the You don't.
Once you get plus territory, you don't throw the ball
behind the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, you don't unless you're gonna break your own tennessees
and throw it down the field.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's the only time that I would be.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
If you're said it's a double pass or something, then yeah,
but the intent is still to push the ball behind
the line.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, you don't take it like. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Once you're getting a plus territory, you don't put yourself
in negative place, and if you teach your quarterbacks, you
don't take sacks there. You know, it's just one of
those things like you don't live to fight an other
day there, get rid of it, you know, you don't.
You don't hang in there trying to make something happen,
live to fight another day.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
And that's why, like when with they fake the the punt, right.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I thought that was that was perfect, yeah, and I.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Thought, Okay, the team's gonna get some points off of that,
and no one is though, and then we came up
drying on that, right, but knowing that.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Points are a premium, that there was.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Gonna be another shot where it's gonna be another aggressive
move some something fleet flicker whatever it is, throw back
the ball, both throw back the corner. I didn't see that. Yeah,
I didn't see it.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I'm just the point now where I need some of
Grant's parents coughser cough remedy at this point, Well, we
got a whole six pack coming up next.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Western our tackles, help the receivers on the official home
of THEOS. All Right, all night, Kowa, welcome.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Back to my broncost country. Tonight.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
All right, think Ferguson grat Smiths five six six nine
zero text lone.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Time for the NFL six pack.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
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Speaker 2 (16:21):
What well with the loss yesterday?

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Contract talks with Kevin O'Connell get front and center in
Minnesota Jay Glazer's report and multiple teams are interested in
trading for Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Certainly not idle talk. There is tension in the.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Relationships, stemming largely from the fact that he did not
get an extension after his second season. Now he's one
year away from free agency, could be willing to let
it ride if necessary and hit the market, betting.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
On himself for one more year.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Entering the final Sunday of the regular season, his earning potential.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Was as high as it could be.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Here's the question, Well, the two sides agree on consequences
of a two game tailspin, the vikings over either hand.
O'Connor can always say you know what I'm out, He
voluntarily coaches a lame duck, can make himself available to
anyone and everyone. In twenty twenty six, beyond money, O'Connell
could be looking for more, say and roster construction that
our alignment with the general manager in a situation where

(17:15):
he'll have more of what he needs to put a
team together that can get to the playoffs and win
when the postseason arrives.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
But O'Connell contract obviously should.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Be the first order of business for the Vikings right
now that the season is any.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
But will a deal be reached?

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Will they keep him for one more year, let him
become a free agent, or take the best offer they
can if teams want to trade for him. On the surface,
O'Connell seems too good nature to play hardball. But his dad,
as many of you may or may not know, as
a retired FBIA.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Agent who was partially responsible for.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Taking down John Gottie.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
So you are suggesting maybe he unlisten his dad to
do absolutely what Benjamin.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
It's in the family of DNA to match wits with
the rich and powerful.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
So if the if the wolf's snowed off for Kevin,
the kind of deal he's looking for the me not
themit the match.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Well, there's a lot of teams out there that love
young coaches, and you know, Kevin o'conno's one of the
young coaches that.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Stem from Drumbard.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Please the Mike sending him coaching tree and his record
is thirty four and seventeen. So if the Vikings won
a part ways with Kevin O'Connell, there will be some takers.
But I would suggest, why don't you just try to
make a deal work because Detroit and Dan Campbell they're
not going to go anywhere. They may lose Aaron Glynn
and they may lose Van Johnson, but which will provide

(18:32):
an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
For the Vikings to take over that division.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
So make him happy, figure something out with Sam Donald
and just run it back.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Meanwhile, they could actually trade him to a team like,
for instance, Jacksonville and reap the benefit of draft picks
while the economist general manager continues to strike out on
the long players.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Bad ball two.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
An learn head coach who could possibly have teams interested
in trading for him says save your time. Unlike last year,
Steelers coach Mike Toman didn't walk away when asked by
reporters about his future. He handled one specific question about
his future with a very specific.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
And clear message.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Asked for his message to any team that might be
interested in possibly trading for him, Tomlin said, I have
no message.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Save your time.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Any coach can put the cabash on a potential trade
by refusing to engage in talks with the team that
has secured permission to negotiate with him for reaching a
deal on compensation with the coach's current team or Tomlin, Well,
I agree to a trade. If the Steelers don't want him,
they should fire him and then he can take another
job without compensation to Pittsburgh, or he can wait a
year with full pay and loom Over the twenty twenty
six coaching carousel, topic of potential trade became relevant because

(19:38):
the report regarding Tomlin's future wasn't that the Steelers without
fire Tomalin, but they're not planning to make a coach change.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Tomlin is not planning to go anywhere else voluntarily. If
you order in need of a coach.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Would you trade for either one of these guys?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah? I would.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
We're talking about coaches who have shown as though they
can win an NFL. But more importantly, think about Mike
Tomlin's team here with the Steelers, one of the longest
teams with the organization in the league at this particular moment.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
And I know there's been a.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Whole bunch of bad characters who have come out and
made the suggestion maybe it's time that the Steelers decided
to move on.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Here's what I do know. Right, you don't quit.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
One job but I'm having another job lined up.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Right, You don't break.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Up with your girlfriend unless you have another girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
On the side.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
So why would the Stealers decide, well, Ben that Ben's
give me that smirk. Theres so make it's a little
different for one bitchmin all Bright. But why would the
Steelers have to move past a Hall of Fame coach
just to satisfy the stomach rumbling.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Of a whole bunch of bad characters. You always have
something lined up just for the next.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Wait a minute, wait a minute. This has always been
my idea of my concept. You don't mess up a
sure thing for possibly maybe let me do that.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
You always have to have a sure thing on the
other side. But if we had to make it makes sense.
So why would the Steelers do this?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Unless you're me, I I'll just blow it up at random,
just to blow it up free.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Speaking of Tomlin, he doesn't know his starting quarterbacks is
going to be in twenty twenty five. Tomas said today
there are a lot of unanswered questions about the future
in Pittsburgh and that.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
The quarterback position is one of them.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Thomas said he hasn't ruled out bringing back Russell Wilson
or Justin Fields are both.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
He also has it ruled out moving on for both
of them bringing in a new starter.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
We don't have a quarterback under contract, Tomlin said, We're
certainly open to considering those guys.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
We have a lot of work ahead of us.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Shortly there after, the Steelers did sign bring in Skyler Thompson,
so they do have a quarterback under contract at least.
Thomas said the Steelers had a lot of work to
do before free agency of the draft to determine which
quarterbacks are available. Realistically, it's hard to believe the Steelers
would go into twenty twenty five with the Fields as
their starter.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I don't know about Wilson.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
As promising of the season as it appeared at times,
no one could be satisfied, I think with the final result,
although that may or may not have been on the quarterback.
If you look, the defense really gave up the goods
against the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
SOS won advance past the wild card round.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
They're gonna have to find a long term answer there eventually.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Well yeah, I mean, obviously they're going to have to
find a long term answer. I don't think if they
run him back with Russ that would be a bad idea,
right because now they can sign him to a team
fly deal and let me better, quarterbacks are getting eight
nine million dollars.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
There's a lot of money to everyone else. Backup, money
is says ten million on these days.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Starting quarterbacks start in the late twenties, early thirties on.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Up to sixteen.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, but at this particular point where Russ is, I'm
sure he would if the Sales offered him a two
year deal that pays him ten million dollars a year,
he would take it. Maybe maybe we once again you
asked that question.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
You keep that tired down the road, But it's about.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Trying to fix your defense, add some valuable wide receivers
to go with.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
The pass catchers. If yeah, whoever me is going to
be the quarterback there. That's that's that much is very obvious.
And I don't know. George Pickens is so mercurial. I
don't know if you can count on him, as you know,
he's your wide receiver one, but I don't if you
count on If you're bringing Russ back, why not make
a play for Courton Sun.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I mean that is Hey, I'm sure the Broncos got
to pick their interests. Yeah, for the right draft pick,
I think everybody'd be happy there we'll see four.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
The Bears completed their interview tonight with Broncos senior personnel
executive David Shaw for their vacant head coaching job.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Jaw who's fifty two.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
With Stanford's head coach from twenty eleven to twenty twenty two,
compiling a ninety six and fifty four record with the
Cardinal three packed twelve conference titles. Before returning to his
own monitor coach in two thousand and seventy, he was
in his NFL assistant with the Eagles, Raiders, and Ravens.
He officially joined the Broncos back in June of last year.
The Bears have completed interviews with interim head coach Thomas Brown,
former Seahawks coach Pete Carroll, Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn,

(23:40):
Lands offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka,
Cardinals offensive cordator Drew Petsing, former Commanders and Panthers head
coach Ron Rivera, and Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver. They
also talked to Mike Rabel before the Patriots hired him.
They still have interview requests out for Iowa State at
coach Matt Campbell. Viking's defensive coordinator Brian Lawrees was believed

(24:00):
to be the leader in the clubhouse. There Notre Dame
head coach Marcus Freeman, Commander's offensive coordator Kingsbury, former Cowboys
coach Mike McCarthy, who will be on Wednesday, and Ravens
offensive Quardner Todd Munkin, Steven's offensive cocording to Arthur Smith
and Packer's offense acording to Adam Statovic as well. Bear's
casting a wide wide net in the search. I think
they want Ben Johnson, but the odds on favorite is

(24:22):
Brian Flores here.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
How do you feel about that? Okay, let me go.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Back to the David Shaw situation for a second. For
those who don't really know David Shaw, and some fans
may not look at him in this way, how would
say you need to change your mind? Because I immediately
go back to Andrew Luck. And we know what Andrew
Luck was at Stanford and why the Coast Suck for
Luck campaign was such a big thing, and the time

(24:47):
that Andrew Luck was with David Shaw.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I mean, he said a lot of records. So even
if David.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Shaw does not become someone of a head coach in
this league. To me, I think some mu should give
him an opportunity to be an offensive coordinated because he
has shown that he has the capabilities to work with
young quarterbacks. At Chicago Bears, they have a young quarterback
in Cable Williams.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, I do. And and that's the thing. The question,
though there is is the run.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Of poles and whether or not you're aligned, you know,
I mean, is that is that?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
First of all, here's what you have to ask yourself.
You Ryan Post, are you trying to save your job?

Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm to you there have been two head coaches who've
been fired, right, so you're trying to do whatever you
can to make your quarterback look great because you had
justin fields when you're coming.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
To set him up right and your coach look great.
That's the thing. So it's it.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I don't know if you're a if you're a Ben Johnson,
you're taking that job.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Knowing that poll that you know that polls.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I mean, no, you know you're you're not because you
want to make sure that you have someone tied to you.
So the idea, if the Bear is going to do it,
you hire Ben Johnson and guy with Ben Johnson the Hide.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
This guy, who you know a team like the Raiders
certainly has the ability.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
To do five.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
AJ Brown has started his one Book book club. The
one Book AJ Brown book Club has boosted Inner Excellence
to the top of the Amazon bestseller list. The e
book is nine to ninety nine and it said non fiction.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
It was buried down there at like five hundred thousand
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
The best part of all this is at Brown's habit
of reading between drives has sparked at least interest for
now in reading, which can be a nice diversion to
whatever's going on in anyone else's life.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
But are you buying this AJ Brown? Reading this book
on the sideline? What is with this motivational ploy?

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I mean, but for me, I'm like, well, if that's
what it takes to get you motivated to so be it.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I don't know that I would need that. But okay, well, once.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Again, your situation may be different from his, as it
may be for anyone else.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
But for me, I'm like, do whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Floats your boat as long as there's not a distraction
to the team.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
It's not like he was eating a hot dog on
the sideline or whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
I mean, he was a little frustrated that he was
not as involved, or if that means that he has
to go read some book.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Some chapters here are excellence.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Whatever it is, as long as he's not distracting the team, what's.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
The harm in doing it? What is it? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I'd be listening to the take of a Granted podcast personally, well, and.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I'm sure if someone found that out, they would say, well,
why has it been You have to listen to the
take of the Granted.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Podcast to kind of get him gold because I got
to find out the latest from Grant's minute. I gotta
hear that in my life. So as much as oh
that's all I said, just say, that's what I need.
That's the motivation of my life. I need. All right,
This is a wild story here.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Last year's Wildcard game between the Dolphins and Cheese featured
temperatures that were pretty cold, bone and chilling cold. Some
fans who attended the game developed frostbite. There were reports
of amputations, although that specific remains unclear. A new article
from ESPN looks back at the Deep Freeze playoff game,
and it adds something new that in January twenty sixteen,
Open Air playoff game in Minnesota, the last played outdoors

(27:54):
before the opening of the dome that replaced the Metrodome.
The Seahawks safety Cam Chancellor's case of thing your tip
frostbite had amputation on the table. The Canceler said, I
had never had frost bite, and I was like, wait,
are y'all gonna cut.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
My fingers off?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
At the time, he posted photos of his fingertips for
the skin peeling beneath the nail. Although he wore gloves
during the game, the damage occurred due to sweat that
froze inside the gloves. Canceler said, you're out there playing
that cold weather, You're out there sweating, and then once
you take a time out, you're standing or sitting.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Down, all that sweat is on you. It's cold, it
makes the sweat worse.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
So the potential for playing games and ultra cold conditions
has obviously increased. Now the season has banded into seventeen games.
It will get worse if it when another game is
added to the schedule. As noted by ESPN, the league
monitors weather patterns with two or three alternate stadium reserved
in the.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Event a game must be moved.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Given last year's weather issues at the Wildcard involving the
Dolphins Chiefs, which was not moved or delayed, and the
Steelers' bills, which was delayed by a day. The league
started planning for playoff weather contingencies earlier as normal this year,
the NFL has never had a temperature or wind chill minimum,
and after that, had the chance, I probably should have
established one. And while fans attend open air games with
full knowledge of the conditions and assuming full risk of

(29:04):
potential consequences, a decision to play the game at the
scheduled time in that venue carries with it an implication
that's safe for human beings to attend. Even if no
one could ever credibly claim that the league is a
legal obligation reschedule it, there's kind of a moral obligation here.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
When do we think about Cam Chancellor getting frost.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Bite from playing in a game and fans getting frost
bite and having to have amputations just to watch football.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Well, the idea is from the league is whatever, man,
Because do you remember the Ice Bowl December thirty first,
nineteen sixty seven.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
I rememb remember when I was in attendance, obviously thirteen
years before I record not.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
From from that particular standpoint, But you can always go
back and google the coldest game in NFL history.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I mean, the.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
NFL is going to play games no matter what, right,
I mean, there was a Fighters Los Angeles that displayed
so many people they just moved to Arizona because the
game is cold and the cold climate, whether it's in
Green Bay, Chicago, Seattle, Denver, wherever, all of a sudden,
that's going to change the m of the league. No.

(30:10):
And for those fans. This is why I love Broncos
fans because they endure the cold weather. They're out there,
you know, all bundle up. But I always wonder this
Ben right, when they build these new stadiums.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
They make it sight state of the art.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Why is it that they never make like plug in
seats like for cold weather and you can even sell
them at the premium right when you can see the tickets.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, I mean you have to make sure those seats
are working all Like you put heaters in the seats,
you get those heated cushions.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's what they should do, is get he could buy
sell those or rentals to you. Let you put those.
You go something and you look at the stating at
the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Some of those places have little outlets like where you
could plug things in.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
You can plug them right there, plug it, there you are,
there you go.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
So now you're not worried about frostbite. Carries about frost bike.
You have seen those those big airplane like blowers on the.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Sideline, the heat heat stuff on them, and then you.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Get those those big jackets that you could put on
that have the thing hooked up to him. But the
problem with that is just like when you if you
get too hot in there and you sweat, you go
out of the cold to do to get a chancered
you freeze.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Earlier this season there were there were a couple of
cold games in Steve Batward and I was standing on
the sideline, you know, waiting to our sideline hit, and
I'm waiting for Steve to come.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
But he's standing by the blower. Yeah. I'm like, that's
that's that's a whole page right there. He was standing
by the blower.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yes, I said, be doing. I'm gonna pust kids here later. Yeah,
you can stand there, I said, Steve, you played in Denver,
you used to be used to it.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
He's like, man, oh, it's cold, cold, Yes about the heater,
standing by.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
The heat and elbowing. People have to wait to stand
by the heater. Said that are going out there half time?
Well no, I'm covering myself off out a spot here.
That's the friendiment, all one thing to do. Yeah, push
the kid out of the way, just to bom you
from the city. Yes, the Broncos Country nine rolls side
up to this. Your soul is mine.
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