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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Man, I don't know what what all is dude on,
dudes on dudes up for I don't know. I think
Nick wrote it in on every category. He's got bit
lip face Right now. I'm just happy because during the
break I got this stove, I got to show Steve
Atwater Jared Lorenzen and how he missed that phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Oh man, he was a legend where I grew up
in Southeast Ohio.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
But watching I'm watching Jared Lorenzi highlights and I'm showing
him and he's like, there's no way that that guy
is that fat and can move that fast. Yeah, And
then he said you showed him the comeback Jared Lorenz
and oh yeah, glides too right when he got to
the Kentucky River Monsters or whatever it was, and yeah,
that huge gut weighed like three hundred and fifty pounds
or whatever, it was still making dudes miss.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The Mayor highlight for me is when he was at
two hundred and nine and eighty pounds and he outruns
Ruben Browns down here to make a block for him. Like,
I think, to me, I was just like anything else
that ever happens or doesn't happen to this guy like
this highlight. I mean, you know, because you traged to
the past way a few years ago, but this highlight
right here, like you could you could live off that
like that for him.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
I mean I would say that that would be a
testament for anyone looking back at his story and say, well,
this is why you can never allow anyone to doubt
you or doubt yourself. Because by all accounts, you could
say that he should have been playing in college football,
he shouldn't have been the starting college quarterback at Kentucky.
(01:50):
Well he didn't let any of that distract him, and
he went out there and he playing.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
So that's the one big takeaway that I would take
away from that situation for.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Sure, And he did actually get into it, get into
a game for the Giants, an actual game for the Giants.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
He got into way.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
He got into four total games, but he had statistical accruitment.
In one actual game for the New York Giants, he
went four of eight passing for twenty eight yards, dude,
and got sacked.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Once and then he ran the ball once for two
yards as well.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So he did actually get into an NFL game, So
he wasn't because there was some questions about that. My
favorite stat he gave was that he was the punter too.
Back I cannot know that Kentucky. Well, he wasn't always
the punter, but he did punt right two yard average. Yeah,
for a couple of years. He did punt for a
couple I mean, he wore number twenty two.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You want to go on the field. It looked like
a full back. He wore twenty two. Well, that's why
I told Steve.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
I mean, the great thing about him he had versatility
in athleticism, and it seem as though when you look
at him you don't think that he does. But just
the fact of him playing quarter position, moving around the
way that he did, and being a punter, I mean,
you know why you have to kind of get your
leg to really.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Put that ball and explode.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
That's that's a lot of athleticism that so many of
his opponents took for granted.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
That's some flexibility for a big man, right to Absolutely
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Speaker 3 (03:10):
Not nominated this year at the podcast for Absolutely It's
It's a crime HOLLEYO talk to about that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
How do I do it?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Writing in Dudes on Dudes for everything.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Lorenzo, by the way, at the combine was six foot five,
two hundred eighty eight pounds.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Damn two one hundred eighty eight pounds.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
That is absurd. That is just I don't even know
what to do with that. That was the combine. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
That's that's his best weight possible six three, you know,
like that's when he's trying to down the cowbine.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
He slimmed down to too eighty eight for the combine.
Just imagine if he was able to drop down to
be like like two thirty to forty.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Well even to fifty two s cam Newton weight, you know,
like sixty, it would have been a monster.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Just saying it was it was fridignd Anyway, that was
the highlight of my year.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Get to show Steve because to watch his jaw drop
as Jared Lorenz and his shaking people, shaking people out,
running the football and slinging it all over the yards
five six six nine zero tex So, I.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Gots made the National Championship last night kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Because it felt like kind of done, you know it,
Really it didn't feel like the National Championship. And I
don't know if that's a byproduct of the NFL adding
so much or the playoffs being expanded in college football,
because the playoffs started off with a bang, but it
felt like they ended with a bit of a whimper.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And it wasn't that bad a game.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I mean, Notre Dame kind of got run out a
little bit early, but they came back on Ohio State.
There had some shots. What did you guys think of
the National Championship game? And what did you think of
the new expanded playoff format?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Overall?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
I didn't like the twelve game format. I thought that
they could have achieved the same thing with eighteens. We
saw that at the beginning of the playoffs. We saw
a lot of teams have that buy and when they
came back to play, it just seem as though they
were not ready to play. But as it pertains the
last Night Bitch shout out to Ohio State. I feel
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as though it was a great game. It might not
have started out that way, being as though how Ohio
State take advantage, But think about it, it was almost
like similar to the Broncos game.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Where the Third Dame came down, they scored, and everyone
was pure and happy. You thought, okay, well, this was
gonna be a.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Real game, and all of a sudden, Ohio State said, no,
what we know, we are more talented and we can
out physically you. And it start to show and you
could see the dominance of Ohio State. But then Notre
Dame being that team they were all year long, they're
fairly scrappy, they're well coached team, and they're not going
to give up. And they didn't if it wasn't for
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that Will Howard. You know, I think it was a
forty nine or whatever it was passed to set up
the field goal the Jeremiah Smith. Then once again Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Could have turned the time.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, well, and Notre Dame made a bad decision trying
to kick that field goal they missed.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I felt bad for that kid, Jeter I think was
the kicker's name.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, what are you doing? What are you doing at
that point? You're pot committed, like you got to go
for it, go for what. I will say give all
credit to Notre Dame Man because they were outmatched talent wise,
but battling back down that much. Ohio State scored touchdowns
on their first four drives that time ever in National
Championship history. And I think the goal of the playoff
was to have the best team win in the end,
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and I think they succeeded in that. But I'm with
Ryan Edwards he's been talking about on KOA Sports. I
think they need to reced after the first round. I
still feel bad for Oregon having to play Ohio State.
I mean, that's the game you want in the National Championship. Honestly,
this was a better game though, Yeah it was, you.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Know, I think.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
That's the argument itself, is like, Okay, well if you
change the seating, you still get to this point, and
so you go to Ohio State versus Oregon, and looking
at what we saw on the Rose Bowl, that ends.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Up being the game. But did you like that ollcome
in Rose Bowl? No, No, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So I'm against receding. I'm against all that. Like, you
know your path, you got to beat the team in
front of you. And look at Ohio State's path, I mean,
four top ten teams to win it all abs. Coming
back off that Michigan loss where you know everyone's calling
for Ryan Day's job, I felt I felt really happy.
I would have liked to see Marcus Freeman win last night,
but I felt really happy for Ryan Day.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Just to stick it in all those dumb seats before
we picked that game.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I was torn because of the history for Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
If he had he won on MLKA junior Day, I mean,
it would have been fabulous.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
But at the same time, I had just kind of
felt for Ryan Day after all the shots that he
was taken. Well, you can't win the big game, you
can't be Michigan. But now we have in back to
back years to uh, I guess big ten teams.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Win in the championship.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
When when's the SEC gonna shut up about their dominance
in college football?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well maybe not because they are.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Well, they had too many mouth pieces like Paul Finebaum
out there. You know, kind of waving the band for them,
So good luck with that. Great, that's not gonna stop.
But hopefully this somewhat changes the narrative and we'll be
able to tell when when this upcoming season Top twenty
five come out, let's see how many SEC teams are
at the top and how many big team teams are there.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well, another reason, I like the the twelve team playoff,
And to your point, this could have happened with an
eighteen playoff too, but Notre Dame and Ohio State probably
missed the four team playoff from last year and they
both are playing in the national championship game.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I mean, see, that's what that's something to think about.
I was I wanted the eighteen playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I saw like that they would have both been in
with the eighteen. Yeah, I felt like eight was a
perfect number. And I don't think the other four teams.
I mean we saw they got ran, you know, like
we saw SMU like with all due respect.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
So what does that do for teams like like Boise, Right,
it was kind of like a inf We're talking like
March Madness.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
They were your sended other team, yeah right, like did
they not belong?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Well, you get on an eighteen playoff, they would have
been in.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I would have had them in. See, now, that's why
you have to keep twelve teams.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But I think you don't give you guarantee them a
spot in the playoff, but you don't guarantee them that
first round by so Boise could be playing on their
blue turf at home in that first round game instead
of against whoever on a neutral site.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I like that idea. I like that concept. I'm not yeah,
I'm not opposed to that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I just once you go past them, but like, they
start off with four, which was too small, and then
they over corrected to twelve, and so now we're stuck
with that.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
They're not gonna go backwards. Well, the only reason they
did that, let's be totally honest.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
I mean, it was a money Well the money, we
know that for sure, but it was just another way
to get more SEC teams in because if we go
eight teams, I bet the committee is still going to
try to get three SEC teams. I'm like, no, let's
look at the power of five teams is look at
the teams that won their they're kind of champ conference championship,
and those are the teams that should have an opportunity
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to play for a national title.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well, and I think the way that kind of the
Big Twelve played out this year kind of hindered the
twelve team playoff. But man, they came back and had
a hell of a game in that first round or
in their first round, and that's back around.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I enjoyed the twelve team playoff.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I think they need to switch up the scheduling of
it a little bit just so it doesn't interfere quite
as much with the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
But I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, to me, you want the college football season ended
on like January first, right, Like that's just when you
want it ended. And you got to find a way
to get the tournament in there. Maybe shrink down college
seasons a little bit. We're not there, how many regular
season games down for college football right now.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Once again, we're talking about money now and they're not
going to do it an we can't pour water on
this one.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
True, I was.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That, but if they wanted the best product and not
the most money, I think they would take some of
those suggestions, right.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
And so that I mean, but so it's it's sort
of a mood point. Bigger about that as far as
that goes.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But yeah, I thought it was kind of interesting how
that that started with the bang and ended with a whimp.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Right, they got to figure that out. And you know,
this year was interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I like the one thing about kirkurbsher is getting emotional. Okay,
it's all modern, it's fine, but I like, dude, do
you want somebody whose son is playing all one of
the teams calling the broadcast?
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
What's the big deal with that vitrality? Okay, so Herbstree
does a great job. I'm not saying he doesn't. I'm
just saying, but he did a great job last night.
Not trying to show favoritism to his It goes both ways.
It's a moo.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
But he then he overcorrects sometimes going the other like
I've seen it, like he becomes a thing. Instead of
calling the game, you're trying to watch what you do
or watch what you say to make sure you're not
you know.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And I mean, I like kirkut Street.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Really play in the game enough to make a major
impact that I think that it was a problem during.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The broadcast, just like I don't want Tom Brady calling
Raiders games. I don't particularly care for Tom Brady's a
color Adelest anyway, He's okay. I don't think he's great.
I don't hate him. I just don't think he's like great.
But I don't want him call it Raiders games. You own,
you own part of the team, Like, I don't want
you calling that. I want to watch an objective observer.
But all you think herb Street. I mean, he is
the voice of college football on all the big games
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on Saturday Night. You're gonna pull him for the biggest
game of the year just because his son is basically
a graduate of Site. Would be the voice of college
football because he's great good at it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
He's quite good at it.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I just I don't know, like in that particular situation, man, I.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Don't know, it's not really I think you've just been
to hated man. Maybe I mean, maybe I am. I
don't think he'd maybe I am. I'm asking the question.
You guys don't seem to have a problem with that.
We don't let mean him calling the game.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
It's not as though he's an official on the field
dictating with the results of the game.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
He's not doing that. He's just standing in the in
the box next to someone else calling plays. That's it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Like when Phil Simms was a play by play guy,
would it bothered you if he was calling.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Chris Simms games. Well, no, Chris Simms didn't play a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
So I.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Was so, where's the damage. There's no damage there.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
I'm just saying, as long as you're not impacting the
game with the cause, which he can, right because he's
calling the game.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I don't see that there's a problem with that. That
is not a problem.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Okay, do you guys want to hear why he was
so emotional because.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
He did get answer today. You got the audio on that.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
It was almost like a perfect storm for me. My
son had heart failure two years ago. They were talking
about a heart replacement there for a while and he
had to medically retire.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And Ryan Day.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
I think the gratitude I had for Ryan Day putting
his arms around Zach and keeping him involved. You know,
he's he's almost like a ga with what he was doing,
and Ryan insisted on putting his arms around him, Chip.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Kelly, all these guys.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
So there was that side of it, looking down and
seeing him in his jersey after you know, potentially facing,
you know, replacing your heart to that. I hadn't really
talked about this publicly, but you know, Ali Ali, my
wife facing stuff. It's been a tough year for me
behind the scenes. My wife had got diagnosed with breast cancer,
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you know, Ben dies. It was just a lot of emotion.
And when you're do what we do, you you endure,
you know, you you do your job. And I think
what happened, I didn't couldn't predict it, but when they won,
I was so happy for Ryan Day and those players
that I just talked about because of what they faced
and all this stuff behind the scenes. It was like
(14:15):
it was almost like, I don't know, maybe a release
of all that penned up stuff and it just it
just got got the best comme.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So, I mean, okay, so you want to change her,
you want to change your mind?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, not really.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
We all have stuff we're going through. I mean like
being being whoa whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
No, I can't let you do this. Yes, we all
have things that we are going through. But that was
kind of like a trifecta. Right, your son has heart surgery,
he has to now retire from something he loves doing.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
That you and father, you've experienced yourself, right right. So
now he can't go out.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
There, he can't run the field with his teammates, he
cannot play his dream of actually being an Ohio State
Buckeye contributing on the field.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It has now been taken away from it.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Oh, by the way, your dog dies and on top
of that, your wife is diagnosed with breast cancer.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, those are all horrible things. Those are all terrible things.
It doesn't have anything to.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Do with it.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Well, usually people go through one or maybe twice, but
all three in one year.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yes, screw that. If I'm Herbstreet, I'm crying. I'm doing whatever.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Screw you guys, whatever, whatever it is. And he hugged
his son. That is a father son and son moment.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Hey, I'm all for the father son moment. I just like,
I don't know, I feel differently about hater calling it.
But hater, I guess I'll be the hater. Broncos Country
to Night back with Niki Jabal. After this, we celebrate
our Commander in Chief Dan Quinn here on the Broncos Country.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That maybe I'm the only one celebrating that.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
You guys are looking at the weird five six.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Six nine zero is the text line welcome back to
It Broncos Country Night Bends, but all Bright, Nick Ferguson
Grant Smith got suckered into some engagement bait during the
break Mike Goldie Junior is trying to claim the diet
coke is greater than coke zero, and I have severe
problems with this. Nick, you don't drink these kinds of unhealthy,
toxic beverages. But but Gras Smith has been known to
partake on occasion. Yeah, I'm a coke zero fan. Actually,
(16:15):
coke zero greater than dieting. But he's trying to claim
diet coke is better, and I have I have so
many problems with this. I know a lot of people
who are severely addicted to diet coke and would probably
argue and go like Junior's favor.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But I'm not one of them. Yeah, well, let's go.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Out to the UK with Commas built Hotline'm bringing a
good friend, Nicki Javala, Nikki, how.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Are you going to see me?
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I'm good? How are you? Guys?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I'm not doing all right? We're we stepped into the
I stepped into the engagement bait. The Great coke war
here diet coke versus coke zero. And I don't know
if you have a preference there, but I'm clearly in
camp coke zero.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
I used to be on diet Doctor Pepper a lot,
but I'm strictly coffee and espresso now. I need to, yeah,
like large coffee, five shots of espresso, like it's practically diesel.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
I'm like drinking anymore healthy service that that's us literally
like sick.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
It's like cart oil by the time I get to it.
But you know, you do what you got to do
to get through the playoffs log.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So that's, uh, that's fair and honestly my time in
the military, that's that's basically what the coffee was, which
was like syrup, you know at that point.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
So I completely completely understand that.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Niki Ki.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
First of all, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
You know, the Washington Commanders, to the surprise of many,
I think, are in the NFC Championship Game taking on
a division rival in the Philadelphia Eagles. Dan Quinn in
his first year, Jaydan Daniels in his first year. What
a revelation that has been. And uh, you know, the
Commanders secretly have fans, I think on this show because
of our good buddy John Pagano, Who's who's on the
staff there. What can you tell us about this this
radical culture shift that Washington has had post Dan Snyder
(17:44):
and what got them to this point.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, they're good and actually likable. It's mild, Yeah, I
mean I think it all started one with the sale
to Josh Harrison's ownership group. I think it goes without
saying that, you know, moving on from Dan sin was
one of the best things to happen to this franchise
in a long time. And I mean I don't think
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anybody expected it to, you know, for them to have
this success this quickly. But as you guys know, you
got to have a good quarterback to go anywhere in
this league. They have cycled through them. I think them
and the Broncos are like they were neck and neck
with the number of quarterbacks they cycled through over the
last five to six years. So they've been searching for
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that guy for a long time and appears they finally
found one. A really good one too. Jayden Daniels is
just he's exceptional for a rookie, does not play like
a rookie. So to have that leadership at the top
from ownership to have a quarterback like that and to
have like the right pieces around them. I think the
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England is the right type of coach for what the
team needs right now. I think he's still very good
exces and those, but he's delegated play calling to Joe
Witt on defense and obviously Kingsman offense.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
And the guys believe them. I mean, they believe the mantras.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
They say what he says, They've they've bought in. I
think winning absolutely helpful that, but I think for the
first time in a really long time, there's real belief
within the franchise, not just like fleeting hope, like one
win is just a fluke and everybody's waiting for, you know,
the bottom, the fall out again.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Now, this is they really.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Believe and what they're doing in the show is on
the field.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Nikki.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Most of the time, when we look at the team's
success on the field, we always related to the players.
We always talk about the coaching staff, but there are
certain individuals inside the organization that really gets their validation,
and for me it is Adam Peters the GM. I mean,
watching this team just sort of turn around do like
(19:49):
a three point sixty in a matter of a season.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
What does that say about Adam Peters and his vision
for this team.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Yeah, I mean I will say I do think Adam
Peters gets his I share to do. I think he's
one of, if not the highest pagams in the league,
and he was a guy going in.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
I mean, that was the one they wanted and with reason.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I mean, he's had success at every stop, and he's
regarded as one of the best personnel guys in the league,
and we've seen what he's done in only year one.
I think he took some flack with some of the
guys he brought in this year. On paper, it looks
like you're bringing in older guys that seemed to be
washed up and you're pairing.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Them with younger guys.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
But it's so far been the perfect lend, and a
lot of these older guys have sort of revived their careers,
Like Zach Ertz is having a heck of a season
given his previous three Echeler.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Was doing really well.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
He had a couple of concussions that kind of set
them back a little bit, but Bobby Wagner is still
playing at a pretty high level. Jeremy Chin has bounced
back after an all season with the Panthers. So I
think it's been the perfect blend. He's stilled in a
lot of holes. I think there's still a lot of
work to do too. We can see that on the
games where you know, where Jayden is unable to do
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it all, where he's unable to be superman on offense.
You can kind of see some of their inefficiencies. But
for them to turn over the roster they the way
they have, I think it's what sixty to seventy percent
of the rosters knew and to have this you know,
sort of coming together, it was in the rosters as remarkable.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, I think so too, And it's been fascinating to
sort of watches as it's done. It was interesting because
you know, there was the Ben Johnson thing last year
and and Ben got coldfeet whatever, and you know, there
was some behind the scenes chatter that he felt some
kind of way about the ownership group and this that
and the other, you know, and along the way we
kind of find out that he felt like they were
basketball guys weren't committed to football, but he wanted Sam
(21:42):
Howell and not necessarily a rookie.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And you know, it as it turns out not true
that that that.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Rumor was debunks Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, it was one of those just all this stuff
coming out, You're like, okay, okay, whatever, Well this this,
you know, didn't work in a sense last year, it
felt sort of like they had back toward their way,
you know, into uh, into dan Quinn. But as it
has panned out, it has it has been maybe the
best thing for them. I mean, Dan's always been such
a culture builder. And the way that this thing has
(22:12):
come together. You got Cliff Kingsbury's gonna be around another
year at least, Arion almost still paid him, and all that,
you got Jayden Daniels in there.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
It's is it?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You know, I'm trying to find the way way to
phrase this. That wasn't necessarily the.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Plan, but maybe not having the plans sort of made
everything work out because it wasn't the plan.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Does that sort of make sense totally?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Totally?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I mean, I think it's fortuitous.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I think it's I guess happened the way it's supposed to.
I guess, But yeah, I mean, I I think now
people within the organization love to say, oh yeah, dan
Quinn was their first choice. I'm like, well, that's yes,
you let them fly coach going home.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
In waited days to you know.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Offer them And that was after Ben Johnson pulled out
Mike McDonald went to Seattle, So yeah, versus I think
Adam Peters did really push for him, but there was
it was hardly any consensus within the organization. But going
back to your point, I do think he was the
right coach for what they need. I think Dan Quinn
is one of the more genuine guys in the league.
(23:15):
And there's a lot of not genuine people in the league,
and you know they have to you know, spend things
or not tell the full truth on some accounts. But
I think he is fairly pretty genuine and when he
when he got fired from Atlanta, I think he really
did do, as others have reported, including myself, just this
(23:38):
full grade sixty and really, you know, turn the spotlight
on himself.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
What could I do differently?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
What would I do differently if I got a second chance?
And he's done a lot of things differently and it's
been really really good for the team. Like for instance,
they have they have a recovery period in the middle
of the day. Not too great for media because sometimes
you'll get you know, you won't see half the locker
room in there during media. But it's been really good
for the players, and a lot of these guys have
stayed healthier than they ever have in seasons fire.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
You know, he's delegated.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Like I said, he's Joe Witt Is calling plays. He
really trusts Joe Witt. I think the offense, I mean,
the defense doesn't have as.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Much talent that they'd like.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
To have, but they've shown an improvement. I mean, they
forced five turnovers in Detroit, but it's but he has adapted.
He has changed things in his own routeam, and it
hasn't been just I'm going to try to fit these
players into my scheme and either it works or doesn't.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
His name of Kingsberry, I mean I was.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I was cethnical about how that one would work out.
And I feel silly now because I feel like Kingsbury
has been great for Jayden, great for the offense, and
what he's running is not his shoe offense. He's he's
tailored the system to what.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Fits Jade, to what fits this personnel, and I think
that says a lot about a coach. You know, a
lot of them talk about it. Don't always do it,
but he has so.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah, I think it has worked out, you know, the
best way possible.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Even if it wasn't plan a going in Niki.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
What happens this weekend Washington beats Philadelphia? What kind of message,
if anything, does it see into the rest of the NFL?
And the reason I asked that question because before the
Commanders selected jayde Daniels, there were still some draft analysts
who were not high on Jayane Daneys. But they win
(25:33):
this game in Philly on the road, a team that
they've seen, they they they've seen before, They're quite familiar
with them.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
What would this what would it be the message it
sends to the league itself?
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yeah, I mean I think it solidifies his It lotifies
that he's legit, and I think he's proven that pretty
much all year. Even though like his first two games
were anywhere like they are now, he wouldn't playing anymore
to this level. But the fact that he's progressively and
consistently improved throughout the season is one thing that really
stands out to me.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
He's also like he cannot be rattled.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
He's just he's like this California at chill dude.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Like we asked him about these mind numbing.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Plays that he has and his response is always, I
honestly don't remember what happened. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
I guess it was good.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Like he's like, he's not like personality lists like he's
he has a great personality.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
It's more that he's just so chill. He does not
get fostered.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
He's smiling on the sideline when it's you.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Know, hig game in a minute left. That boys is
huge and I think if he can go to.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
The link and pull up a win to get another
conference championship, something they haven't done in decades. I mean
since you know ninety one, the last time they won
a Super Bowl, he'd be the first rookie to win
a conference championship ever.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Would be remarkable.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I mean, we're witnessing one of the greatest rookie seasons,
if not the best rooky seasons ever. And yeah, I
mean I know there was skepticism.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Going into the draft. I think much of that is
due to the same pre.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Draft, like the measurable to everybody kind of loses their
mind over like Christian's big about for it is he
is he big enough? That was one of the things
is he big enough. Well, he's slid like you know,
he's shown he can protect himself. He's blitz more than
fifty percent of the time in Detroit.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
What's sack once?
Speaker 5 (27:31):
So yeah, I think it's so they're stilarified this place.
I think people are starting to really realize that this
kid is the real deal.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Talking with Nicki Gavola, a good friend here, Nikki, what
do you think about Jade Daniels bringing the VR stuff,
that cognalized stuff with him from from LSU and and
how that has helped make him the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
That he is.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Yeah, I mean, I know VR has been around for
quite some time and a.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Lot of college programs have used it. I don't know
if any pro that has used it to the extent
that he has. I mean, from what I'm already uses
it every week and that is a big part of
his routine. And he does it at you know, like
one and a half.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Time speed, so what he's seeing is faster than.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
It is in reality, so it looks slow when he's
out there on the field, and you can see how
it's helped him. I mean, you only get so many reps,
especially late in the season, you're not hitting, but he
knows what he's seeing out there, so you can't attribute
everything to VR. He's a smart player, he has tons
of the college experience.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
He's got sort of a.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Natural football intellect, that instinct. But I think it absolutely
helps him. He's, you know, usually the first to tell
people that that it does help them, and it's why
he keeps doing it.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Maky, you've spent before making your jump to watch, then
you spend a number of years here covering the Denver Broncos.
What was your saying kind of like a thirty thousand
foot watching the team from afar and watching them finally
get to the playoff.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
What was that like for you?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
I think that it would happen eventually.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
It would have been nice when I was covering the team.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
No, like.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
No, but like my first year, like it was Super
Bowl fifty, they won it all.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Peyton retires. You knew there'd be some lean years then,
and there were some parallels between what was going on
in Denver and what was going on in Washington. I mean,
the ownership squabbles in Denver were nearly you know, the
ownership issues that.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Dan Snyder single handedly presents, but both.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Were searching for that franchise quarterback, Both had multiple quarter
coaching changes, Both were searching for their identity. Both have
very loyal fan bases that have stuck around for much
of their struggling years. So it is I'm not happy
for Denver that they're back in it. I mean that
(30:00):
fan base, they love them some Broncos. So yeah, it
was nice to see. It was nice to see, certainly. Well.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I was talking with Nicki Gabala from the Commander's reporter
for the Washington Post, and Nikki, what is the fans
sense of optimism going into this game? What was the
what was the sense of optimism going into the Detroit game?
And has that increased going into this Philadelphia game.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Okay, so I say this not to toot my own horn,
but like I thought they would win that game, and
it's so rare that I get one right.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
But I just had a feeling about the team.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
They won so many games late they won they had
won five straight games. On the last play from scrimmage,
who does that? Nobody does that. So I just had
a feeling like this kid always seems to find a
way to pull out.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
I did not expect them to go and put up forty.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Five points and one of the loudest stadiums ever.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Against that team.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
One of the best offenses in the league. I actually
think they're gonna win this, and I always want the
rest of seeing that and coming off as like sort
of the Homer beat, right, But like, I'm pretty realistic
about this team.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Like I think they suck. I say it.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I think Philly is a better team. I think Washington
will find a way to pull this out. And my god,
what a story that would be to go from four
to thirteen dregs of the league, to bring in this rookie,
overhaul the entire organization, and a year and they're back in.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
The super Bowl. That would be incredible. I think they
have a really good chance.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I think one of the primary differences obviously Jalen Hurts
will be playing. Most likely when they beat Philly late
in the season, it was mostly can I pick it
because Jalen went out with a concussion. That's a significant game, Treacher.
I don't think you know Philly's defense with Vic Fandia
back there, those rookie corners back there are really really good,
(32:01):
a lot better in Washington's defense, more consistent anyway, That
is definitely a game changer. But if they can find
a way to slow either A J. Brown or say
shouldn't give themselves a chance? You got to pick your
poison on those two.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Well, Nikki, I think you're going to have some people
secretly pulling for you, or maybe not so secretly pulling
for you back here in Denver to make that super Bowl.
Certainly I will be for my wallet because some idiot
fan bet me that Sean Payton, that excuse me, that
dan Quinn would never get to another super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That my thousand dollars. So I'd like to collect that money.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
I would have never guessed that you would have taken that.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah me ever, yeah right right.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
As my homerism for dan Quinn continues, you guys got
a good one out there. We're going to enjoy the game,
and good luck out there this weekend.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Thanks appreciate it, guys. Good talking to you.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yep, good talking to you too.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Man, I don't know what what all is dude on,
dudes on dudes up for I don't know. I think
Nick wrote it in on every category. He's got bit
lip face Right now. I'm just happy because during the
break I got this stove, I got to show Steve
Atwater Jared Lorenzen and how he missed that phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Oh man, he was a legend where I grew up
in Southeast Ohio.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
But watching I'm watching Jared Lorenzi highlights and I'm showing
him and he's like, there's no way that that guy
is that fat and can move that fast. Yeah, And
then he said you showed him the comeback Jared Lorenz
and oh yeah, glides too right when he got to
the Kentucky River Monsters or whatever it was, and yeah,
that huge gut weighed like three hundred and fifty pounds
or whatever, it was still making dudes miss.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The Mayor highlight for me is when he was at
two hundred and nine and eighty pounds and he outruns
Ruben Browns down here to make a block for him. Like,
I think, to me, I was just like anything else
that ever happens or doesn't happen to this guy like
this highlight. I mean, you know, because you traged to
the past way a few years ago, but this highlight
right here, like you could you could live off that
like that for him.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
I mean I would say that that would be a
testament for anyone looking back at his story and say, well,
this is why you can never allow anyone to doubt
you or doubt yourself. Because by all accounts, you could
say that he should have been playing in college football,
he shouldn't have been the starting college quarterback at Kentucky.
(01:50):
Well he didn't let any of that distract him, and
he went out there and he playing.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
So that's the one big takeaway that I would take
away from that situation for.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Sure, And he did actually get into it, get into
a game for the Giants, an actual game for the Giants.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
He got into way.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
He got into four total games, but he had statistical accruitment.
In one actual game for the New York Giants, he
went four of eight passing for twenty eight yards, dude,
and got sacked.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Once and then he ran the ball once for two
yards as well.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So he did actually get into an NFL game, So
he wasn't because there was some questions about that. My
favorite stat he gave was that he was the punter too.
Back I cannot know that Kentucky. Well, he wasn't always
the punter, but he did punt right two yard average. Yeah,
for a couple of years. He did punt for a
couple I mean, he wore number twenty two.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You want to go on the field. It looked like
a full back. He wore twenty two. Well, that's why
I told Steve.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
I mean, the great thing about him he had versatility
in athleticism, and it seem as though when you look
at him you don't think that he does. But just
the fact of him playing quarter position, moving around the
way that he did, and being a punter, I mean,
you know why you have to kind of get your
leg to really.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Put that ball and explode.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
That's that's a lot of athleticism that so many of
his opponents took for granted.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
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Speaker 3 (03:10):
Not nominated this year at the podcast for Absolutely It's
It's a crime HOLLEYO talk to about that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
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Speaker 3 (03:16):
Writing in Dudes on Dudes for everything.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Lorenzo, by the way, at the combine was six foot five,
two hundred eighty eight pounds.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Damn two one hundred eighty eight pounds.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
That is absurd. That is just I don't even know
what to do with that. That was the combine. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
That's that's his best weight possible six three, you know,
like that's when he's trying to down the cowbine.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
He slimmed down to too eighty eight for the combine.
Just imagine if he was able to drop down to
be like like two thirty to forty.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Well even to fifty two s cam Newton weight, you know,
like sixty, it would have been a monster.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Just saying it was it was fridignd Anyway, that was
the highlight of my year.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Get to show Steve because to watch his jaw drop
as Jared Lorenz and his shaking people, shaking people out,
running the football and slinging it all over the yards
five six six nine zero tex So, I.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Gots made the National Championship last night kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Because it felt like kind of done, you know it,
Really it didn't feel like the National Championship. And I
don't know if that's a byproduct of the NFL adding
so much or the playoffs being expanded in college football,
because the playoffs started off with a bang, but it
felt like they ended with a bit of a whimper.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And it wasn't that bad a game.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I mean, Notre Dame kind of got run out a
little bit early, but they came back on Ohio State.
There had some shots. What did you guys think of
the National Championship game? And what did you think of
the new expanded playoff format?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Overall?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
I didn't like the twelve game format. I thought that
they could have achieved the same thing with eighteens. We
saw that at the beginning of the playoffs. We saw
a lot of teams have that buy and when they
came back to play, it just seem as though they
were not ready to play. But as it pertains the
last Night Bitch shout out to Ohio State. I feel
(04:59):
as though it was a great game. It might not
have started out that way, being as though how Ohio
State take advantage, But think about it, it was almost
like similar to the Broncos game.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Where the Third Dame came down, they scored, and everyone
was pure and happy. You thought, okay, well, this was
gonna be a.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Real game, and all of a sudden, Ohio State said, no,
what we know, we are more talented and we can
out physically you. And it start to show and you
could see the dominance of Ohio State. But then Notre
Dame being that team they were all year long, they're
fairly scrappy, they're well coached team, and they're not going
to give up. And they didn't if it wasn't for
(05:39):
that Will Howard. You know, I think it was a
forty nine or whatever it was passed to set up
the field goal the Jeremiah Smith. Then once again Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Could have turned the time.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, well, and Notre Dame made a bad decision trying
to kick that field goal they missed.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I felt bad for that kid, Jeter I think was
the kicker's name.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, what are you doing? What are you doing at
that point? You're pot committed, like you got to go
for it, go for what. I will say give all
credit to Notre Dame Man because they were outmatched talent wise,
but battling back down that much. Ohio State scored touchdowns
on their first four drives that time ever in National
Championship history. And I think the goal of the playoff
was to have the best team win in the end,
(06:21):
and I think they succeeded in that. But I'm with
Ryan Edwards he's been talking about on KOA Sports. I
think they need to reced after the first round. I
still feel bad for Oregon having to play Ohio State.
I mean, that's the game you want in the National Championship. Honestly,
this was a better game though, Yeah it was, you.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Know, I think.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
That's the argument itself, is like, Okay, well if you
change the seating, you still get to this point, and
so you go to Ohio State versus Oregon, and looking
at what we saw on the Rose Bowl, that ends.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Up being the game. But did you like that ollcome
in Rose Bowl? No, No, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So I'm against receding. I'm against all that. Like, you
know your path, you got to beat the team in
front of you. And look at Ohio State's path, I mean,
four top ten teams to win it all abs. Coming
back off that Michigan loss where you know everyone's calling
for Ryan Day's job, I felt I felt really happy.
I would have liked to see Marcus Freeman win last night,
but I felt really happy for Ryan Day.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Just to stick it in all those dumb seats before
we picked that game.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I was torn because of the history for Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
If he had he won on MLKA junior Day, I mean,
it would have been fabulous.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
But at the same time, I had just kind of
felt for Ryan Day after all the shots that he
was taken. Well, you can't win the big game, you
can't be Michigan. But now we have in back to
back years to uh, I guess big ten teams.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Win in the championship.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
When when's the SEC gonna shut up about their dominance
in college football?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well maybe not because they are.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Well, they had too many mouth pieces like Paul Finebaum
out there. You know, kind of waving the band for them,
So good luck with that. Great, that's not gonna stop.
But hopefully this somewhat changes the narrative and we'll be
able to tell when when this upcoming season Top twenty
five come out, let's see how many SEC teams are
at the top and how many big team teams are there.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well, another reason, I like the the twelve team playoff,
And to your point, this could have happened with an
eighteen playoff too, but Notre Dame and Ohio State probably
missed the four team playoff from last year and they
both are playing in the national championship game.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I mean, see, that's what that's something to think about.
I was I wanted the eighteen playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I saw like that they would have both been in
with the eighteen. Yeah, I felt like eight was a
perfect number. And I don't think the other four teams.
I mean we saw they got ran, you know, like
we saw SMU like with all due respect.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
So what does that do for teams like like Boise, Right,
it was kind of like a inf We're talking like
March Madness.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
They were your sended other team, yeah right, like did
they not belong?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Well, you get on an eighteen playoff, they would have
been in.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I would have had them in. See, now, that's why
you have to keep twelve teams.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But I think you don't give you guarantee them a
spot in the playoff, but you don't guarantee them that
first round by so Boise could be playing on their
blue turf at home in that first round game instead
of against whoever on a neutral site.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I like that idea. I like that concept. I'm not yeah,
I'm not opposed to that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I just once you go past them, but like, they
start off with four, which was too small, and then
they over corrected to twelve, and so now we're stuck
with that.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
They're not gonna go backwards. Well, the only reason they
did that, let's be totally honest.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
I mean, it was a money Well the money, we
know that for sure, but it was just another way
to get more SEC teams in because if we go
eight teams, I bet the committee is still going to
try to get three SEC teams. I'm like, no, let's
look at the power of five teams is look at
the teams that won their they're kind of champ conference championship,
and those are the teams that should have an opportunity
(09:47):
to play for a national title.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Well, and I think the way that kind of the
Big Twelve played out this year kind of hindered the
twelve team playoff. But man, they came back and had
a hell of a game in that first round or
in their first round, and that's back around.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I enjoyed the twelve team playoff.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I think they need to switch up the scheduling of
it a little bit just so it doesn't interfere quite
as much with the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
But I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, to me, you want the college football season ended
on like January first, right, Like that's just when you
want it ended. And you got to find a way
to get the tournament in there. Maybe shrink down college
seasons a little bit. We're not there, how many regular
season games down for college football right now.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Once again, we're talking about money now and they're not
going to do it an we can't pour water on
this one.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
True, I was.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That, but if they wanted the best product and not
the most money, I think they would take some of
those suggestions, right.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
And so that I mean, but so it's it's sort
of a mood point. Bigger about that as far as
that goes.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But yeah, I thought it was kind of interesting how
that that started with the bang and ended with a whimp.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Right, they got to figure that out. And you know,
this year was interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I like the one thing about kirkurbsher is getting emotional. Okay,
it's all modern, it's fine, but I like, dude, do
you want somebody whose son is playing all one of
the teams calling the broadcast?
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
What's the big deal with that vitrality? Okay, so Herbstree
does a great job. I'm not saying he doesn't. I'm
just saying, but he did a great job last night.
Not trying to show favoritism to his It goes both ways.
It's a moo.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
But he then he overcorrects sometimes going the other like
I've seen it, like he becomes a thing. Instead of
calling the game, you're trying to watch what you do
or watch what you say to make sure you're not
you know.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And I mean, I like kirkut Street.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Really play in the game enough to make a major
impact that I think that it was a problem during.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The broadcast, just like I don't want Tom Brady calling
Raiders games. I don't particularly care for Tom Brady's a
color Adelest anyway, He's okay. I don't think he's great.
I don't hate him. I just don't think he's like great.
But I don't want him call it Raiders games. You own,
you own part of the team, Like, I don't want
you calling that. I want to watch an objective observer.
But all you think herb Street. I mean, he is
the voice of college football on all the big games
(11:55):
on Saturday Night. You're gonna pull him for the biggest
game of the year just because his son is basically
a graduate of Site. Would be the voice of college
football because he's great good at it.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
He's quite good at it.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I just I don't know, like in that particular situation, man, I.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Don't know, it's not really I think you've just been
to hated man. Maybe I mean, maybe I am. I
don't think he'd maybe I am. I'm asking the question.
You guys don't seem to have a problem with that.
We don't let mean him calling the game.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
It's not as though he's an official on the field
dictating with the results of the game.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
He's not doing that. He's just standing in the in
the box next to someone else calling plays. That's it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Like when Phil Simms was a play by play guy,
would it bothered you if he was calling.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Chris Simms games. Well, no, Chris Simms didn't play a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
So I.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Was so, where's the damage. There's no damage there.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
I'm just saying, as long as you're not impacting the
game with the cause, which he can, right because he's
calling the game.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I don't see that there's a problem with that. That
is not a problem.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Okay, do you guys want to hear why he was
so emotional because.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
He did get answer today. You got the audio on that.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
It was almost like a perfect storm for me. My
son had heart failure two years ago. They were talking
about a heart replacement there for a while and he
had to medically retire.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And Ryan Day.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
I think the gratitude I had for Ryan Day putting
his arms around Zach and keeping him involved. You know,
he's he's almost like a ga with what he was doing,
and Ryan insisted on putting his arms around him, Chip.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Kelly, all these guys.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
So there was that side of it, looking down and
seeing him in his jersey after you know, potentially facing,
you know, replacing your heart to that. I hadn't really
talked about this publicly, but you know, Ali Ali, my
wife facing stuff. It's been a tough year for me
behind the scenes. My wife had got diagnosed with breast cancer,
(13:54):
you know, Ben dies. It was just a lot of emotion.
And when you're do what we do, you you endure,
you know, you you do your job. And I think
what happened, I didn't couldn't predict it, but when they won,
I was so happy for Ryan Day and those players
that I just talked about because of what they faced
and all this stuff behind the scenes. It was like
(14:15):
it was almost like, I don't know, maybe a release
of all that penned up stuff and it just it
just got got the best comme.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So, I mean, okay, so you want to change her,
you want to change your mind?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, not really.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
We all have stuff we're going through. I mean like
being being whoa whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
No, I can't let you do this. Yes, we all
have things that we are going through. But that was
kind of like a trifecta. Right, your son has heart surgery,
he has to now retire from something he loves doing.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
That you and father, you've experienced yourself, right right. So
now he can't go out.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
There, he can't run the field with his teammates, he
cannot play his dream of actually being an Ohio State
Buckeye contributing on the field.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It has now been taken away from it.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Oh, by the way, your dog dies and on top
of that, your wife is diagnosed with breast cancer.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, those are all horrible things. Those are all terrible things.
It doesn't have anything to.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Do with it.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Well, usually people go through one or maybe twice, but
all three in one year.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yes, screw that. If I'm Herbstreet, I'm crying. I'm doing whatever.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Screw you guys, whatever, whatever it is. And he hugged
his son. That is a father son and son moment.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Hey, I'm all for the father son moment. I just like,
I don't know, I feel differently about hater calling it.
But hater, I guess I'll be the hater. Broncos Country
to Night back with Niki Jabal. After this, we celebrate
our Commander in Chief Dan Quinn here on the Broncos Country.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That maybe I'm the only one celebrating that.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
You guys are looking at the weird five six.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Six nine zero is the text line welcome back to
It Broncos Country Night Bends, but all Bright, Nick Ferguson
Grant Smith got suckered into some engagement bait during the
break Mike Goldie Junior is trying to claim the diet
coke is greater than coke zero, and I have severe
problems with this. Nick, you don't drink these kinds of unhealthy,
toxic beverages. But but Gras Smith has been known to
partake on occasion. Yeah, I'm a coke zero fan. Actually,
(16:15):
coke zero greater than dieting. But he's trying to claim
diet coke is better, and I have I have so
many problems with this. I know a lot of people
who are severely addicted to diet coke and would probably
argue and go like Junior's favor.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But I'm not one of them. Yeah, well, let's go.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Out to the UK with Commas built Hotline'm bringing a
good friend, Nicki Javala, Nikki, how.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Are you going to see me?
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I'm good? How are you? Guys?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I'm not doing all right? We're we stepped into the
I stepped into the engagement bait. The Great coke war
here diet coke versus coke zero. And I don't know
if you have a preference there, but I'm clearly in
camp coke zero.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
I used to be on diet Doctor Pepper a lot,
but I'm strictly coffee and espresso now. I need to, yeah,
like large coffee, five shots of espresso, like it's practically diesel.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
I'm like drinking anymore healthy service that that's us literally
like sick.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
It's like cart oil by the time I get to it.
But you know, you do what you got to do
to get through the playoffs log.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So that's, uh, that's fair and honestly my time in
the military, that's that's basically what the coffee was, which
was like syrup, you know at that point.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
So I completely completely understand that.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Niki Ki.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
First of all, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
You know, the Washington Commanders, to the surprise of many,
I think, are in the NFC Championship Game taking on
a division rival in the Philadelphia Eagles. Dan Quinn in
his first year, Jaydan Daniels in his first year. What
a revelation that has been. And uh, you know, the
Commanders secretly have fans, I think on this show because
of our good buddy John Pagano, Who's who's on the
staff there. What can you tell us about this this
radical culture shift that Washington has had post Dan Snyder
(17:44):
and what got them to this point.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, they're good and actually likable. It's mild, Yeah, I
mean I think it all started one with the sale
to Josh Harrison's ownership group. I think it goes without
saying that, you know, moving on from Dan sin was
one of the best things to happen to this franchise
in a long time. And I mean I don't think
(18:07):
anybody expected it to, you know, for them to have
this success this quickly. But as you guys know, you
got to have a good quarterback to go anywhere in
this league. They have cycled through them. I think them
and the Broncos are like they were neck and neck
with the number of quarterbacks they cycled through over the
last five to six years. So they've been searching for
(18:28):
that guy for a long time and appears they finally
found one. A really good one too. Jayden Daniels is
just he's exceptional for a rookie, does not play like
a rookie. So to have that leadership at the top
from ownership to have a quarterback like that and to
have like the right pieces around them. I think the
(18:49):
England is the right type of coach for what the
team needs right now. I think he's still very good
exces and those, but he's delegated play calling to Joe
Witt on defense and obviously Kingsman offense.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
And the guys believe them. I mean, they believe the mantras.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
They say what he says, They've they've bought in. I
think winning absolutely helpful that, but I think for the
first time in a really long time, there's real belief
within the franchise, not just like fleeting hope, like one
win is just a fluke and everybody's waiting for, you know,
the bottom, the fall out again.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Now, this is they really.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Believe and what they're doing in the show is on
the field.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Nikki.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Most of the time, when we look at the team's
success on the field, we always related to the players.
We always talk about the coaching staff, but there are
certain individuals inside the organization that really gets their validation,
and for me it is Adam Peters the GM. I mean,
watching this team just sort of turn around do like
(19:49):
a three point sixty in a matter of a season.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
What does that say about Adam Peters and his vision
for this team.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Yeah, I mean I will say I do think Adam
Peters gets his I share to do. I think he's
one of, if not the highest pagams in the league,
and he was a guy going in.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
I mean, that was the one they wanted and with reason.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I mean, he's had success at every stop, and he's
regarded as one of the best personnel guys in the league,
and we've seen what he's done in only year one.
I think he took some flack with some of the
guys he brought in this year. On paper, it looks
like you're bringing in older guys that seemed to be
washed up and you're pairing.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Them with younger guys.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
But it's so far been the perfect lend, and a
lot of these older guys have sort of revived their careers,
Like Zach Ertz is having a heck of a season
given his previous three Echeler.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Was doing really well.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
He had a couple of concussions that kind of set
them back a little bit, but Bobby Wagner is still
playing at a pretty high level. Jeremy Chin has bounced
back after an all season with the Panthers. So I
think it's been the perfect blend. He's stilled in a
lot of holes. I think there's still a lot of
work to do too. We can see that on the
games where you know, where Jayden is unable to do
(21:01):
it all, where he's unable to be superman on offense.
You can kind of see some of their inefficiencies. But
for them to turn over the roster they the way
they have, I think it's what sixty to seventy percent
of the rosters knew and to have this you know,
sort of coming together, it was in the rosters as remarkable.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, I think so too, And it's been fascinating to
sort of watches as it's done. It was interesting because
you know, there was the Ben Johnson thing last year
and and Ben got coldfeet whatever, and you know, there
was some behind the scenes chatter that he felt some
kind of way about the ownership group and this that
and the other, you know, and along the way we
kind of find out that he felt like they were
basketball guys weren't committed to football, but he wanted Sam
(21:42):
Howell and not necessarily a rookie.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And you know, it as it turns out not true
that that that.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Rumor was debunks Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, it was one of those just all this stuff
coming out, You're like, okay, okay, whatever, Well this this,
you know, didn't work in a sense last year, it
felt sort of like they had back toward their way,
you know, into uh, into dan Quinn. But as it
has panned out, it has it has been maybe the
best thing for them. I mean, Dan's always been such
a culture builder. And the way that this thing has
(22:12):
come together. You got Cliff Kingsbury's gonna be around another
year at least, Arion almost still paid him, and all that,
you got Jayden Daniels in there.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
It's is it?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You know, I'm trying to find the way way to
phrase this. That wasn't necessarily the.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Plan, but maybe not having the plans sort of made
everything work out because it wasn't the plan.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Does that sort of make sense totally?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Totally?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I mean, I think it's fortuitous.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I think it's I guess happened the way it's supposed to.
I guess, But yeah, I mean, I I think now
people within the organization love to say, oh yeah, dan
Quinn was their first choice. I'm like, well, that's yes,
you let them fly coach going home.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
In waited days to you know.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Offer them And that was after Ben Johnson pulled out
Mike McDonald went to Seattle, So yeah, versus I think
Adam Peters did really push for him, but there was
it was hardly any consensus within the organization. But going
back to your point, I do think he was the
right coach for what they need. I think Dan Quinn
is one of the more genuine guys in the league.
(23:15):
And there's a lot of not genuine people in the league,
and you know they have to you know, spend things
or not tell the full truth on some accounts. But
I think he is fairly pretty genuine and when he
when he got fired from Atlanta, I think he really
did do, as others have reported, including myself, just this
(23:38):
full grade sixty and really, you know, turn the spotlight
on himself.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
What could I do differently?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
What would I do differently if I got a second chance?
And he's done a lot of things differently and it's
been really really good for the team. Like for instance,
they have they have a recovery period in the middle
of the day. Not too great for media because sometimes
you'll get you know, you won't see half the locker
room in there during media. But it's been really good
for the players, and a lot of these guys have
stayed healthier than they ever have in seasons fire.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
You know, he's delegated.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Like I said, he's Joe Witt Is calling plays. He
really trusts Joe Witt. I think the offense, I mean,
the defense doesn't have as.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Much talent that they'd like.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
To have, but they've shown an improvement. I mean, they
forced five turnovers in Detroit, but it's but he has adapted.
He has changed things in his own routeam, and it
hasn't been just I'm going to try to fit these
players into my scheme and either it works or doesn't.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
His name of Kingsberry, I mean I was.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I was cethnical about how that one would work out.
And I feel silly now because I feel like Kingsbury
has been great for Jayden, great for the offense, and
what he's running is not his shoe offense. He's he's
tailored the system to what.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Fits Jade, to what fits this personnel, and I think
that says a lot about a coach. You know, a
lot of them talk about it. Don't always do it,
but he has so.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah, I think it has worked out, you know, the
best way possible.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Even if it wasn't plan a going in Niki.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
What happens this weekend Washington beats Philadelphia? What kind of message,
if anything, does it see into the rest of the NFL?
And the reason I asked that question because before the
Commanders selected jayde Daniels, there were still some draft analysts
who were not high on Jayane Daneys. But they win
(25:33):
this game in Philly on the road, a team that
they've seen, they they they've seen before, They're quite familiar
with them.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
What would this what would it be the message it
sends to the league itself?
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yeah, I mean I think it solidifies his It lotifies
that he's legit, and I think he's proven that pretty
much all year. Even though like his first two games
were anywhere like they are now, he wouldn't playing anymore
to this level. But the fact that he's progressively and
consistently improved throughout the season is one thing that really
stands out to me.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
He's also like he cannot be rattled.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
He's just he's like this California at chill dude.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Like we asked him about these mind numbing.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Plays that he has and his response is always, I
honestly don't remember what happened. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
I guess it was good.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Like he's like, he's not like personality lists like he's
he has a great personality.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
It's more that he's just so chill. He does not
get fostered.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
He's smiling on the sideline when it's you.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Know, hig game in a minute left. That boys is
huge and I think if he can go to.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
The link and pull up a win to get another
conference championship, something they haven't done in decades. I mean
since you know ninety one, the last time they won
a Super Bowl, he'd be the first rookie to win
a conference championship ever.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Would be remarkable.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I mean, we're witnessing one of the greatest rookie seasons,
if not the best rooky seasons ever. And yeah, I
mean I know there was skepticism.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Going into the draft. I think much of that is
due to the same pre.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Draft, like the measurable to everybody kind of loses their
mind over like Christian's big about for it is he
is he big enough? That was one of the things
is he big enough. Well, he's slid like you know,
he's shown he can protect himself. He's blitz more than
fifty percent of the time in Detroit.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
What's sack once?
Speaker 5 (27:31):
So yeah, I think it's so they're stilarified this place.
I think people are starting to really realize that this
kid is the real deal.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Talking with Nicki Gavola, a good friend here, Nikki, what
do you think about Jade Daniels bringing the VR stuff,
that cognalized stuff with him from from LSU and and
how that has helped make him the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
That he is.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Yeah, I mean, I know VR has been around for
quite some time and a.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Lot of college programs have used it. I don't know
if any pro that has used it to the extent
that he has. I mean, from what I'm already uses
it every week and that is a big part of
his routine. And he does it at you know, like
one and a half.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Time speed, so what he's seeing is faster than.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
It is in reality, so it looks slow when he's
out there on the field, and you can see how
it's helped him. I mean, you only get so many reps,
especially late in the season, you're not hitting, but he
knows what he's seeing out there, so you can't attribute
everything to VR. He's a smart player, he has tons
of the college experience.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
He's got sort of a.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Natural football intellect, that instinct. But I think it absolutely
helps him. He's, you know, usually the first to tell
people that that it does help them, and it's why
he keeps doing it.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Maky, you've spent before making your jump to watch, then
you spend a number of years here covering the Denver Broncos.
What was your saying kind of like a thirty thousand
foot watching the team from afar and watching them finally
get to the playoff.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
What was that like for you?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
I think that it would happen eventually.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
It would have been nice when I was covering the team.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
No, like.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
No, but like my first year, like it was Super
Bowl fifty, they won it all.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Peyton retires. You knew there'd be some lean years then,
and there were some parallels between what was going on
in Denver and what was going on in Washington. I mean,
the ownership squabbles in Denver were nearly you know, the
ownership issues that.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Dan Snyder single handedly presents, but both.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Were searching for that franchise quarterback, Both had multiple quarter
coaching changes, Both were searching for their identity. Both have
very loyal fan bases that have stuck around for much
of their struggling years. So it is I'm not happy
for Denver that they're back in it. I mean that
(30:00):
fan base, they love them some Broncos. So yeah, it
was nice to see. It was nice to see, certainly. Well.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I was talking with Nicki Gabala from the Commander's reporter
for the Washington Post, and Nikki, what is the fans
sense of optimism going into this game? What was the
what was the sense of optimism going into the Detroit game?
And has that increased going into this Philadelphia game.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Okay, so I say this not to toot my own horn,
but like I thought they would win that game, and
it's so rare that I get one right.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
But I just had a feeling about the team.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
They won so many games late they won they had
won five straight games. On the last play from scrimmage,
who does that? Nobody does that. So I just had
a feeling like this kid always seems to find a
way to pull out.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
I did not expect them to go and put up forty.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Five points and one of the loudest stadiums ever.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Against that team.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
One of the best offenses in the league. I actually
think they're gonna win this, and I always want the
rest of seeing that and coming off as like sort
of the Homer beat, right, But like, I'm pretty realistic
about this team.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Like I think they suck. I say it.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I think Philly is a better team. I think Washington
will find a way to pull this out. And my god,
what a story that would be to go from four
to thirteen dregs of the league, to bring in this rookie,
overhaul the entire organization, and a year and they're back in.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
The super Bowl. That would be incredible. I think they
have a really good chance.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I think one of the primary differences obviously Jalen Hurts
will be playing. Most likely when they beat Philly late
in the season, it was mostly can I pick it
because Jalen went out with a concussion. That's a significant game, Treacher.
I don't think you know Philly's defense with Vic Fandia
back there, those rookie corners back there are really really good,
(32:01):
a lot better in Washington's defense, more consistent anyway, That
is definitely a game changer. But if they can find
a way to slow either A J. Brown or say
shouldn't give themselves a chance? You got to pick your
poison on those two.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Well, Nikki, I think you're going to have some people
secretly pulling for you, or maybe not so secretly pulling
for you back here in Denver to make that super Bowl.
Certainly I will be for my wallet because some idiot
fan bet me that Sean Payton, that excuse me, that
dan Quinn would never get to another super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That my thousand dollars. So I'd like to collect that money.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
I would have never guessed that you would have taken that.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah me ever, yeah right right.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
As my homerism for dan Quinn continues, you guys got
a good one out there. We're going to enjoy the game,
and good luck out there this weekend.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Thanks appreciate it, guys. Good talking to you.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yep, good talking to you too.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I can jaball Washington Post always love talking to the
NFL six pack.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
We come back
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