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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Boss, David Tepp.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
We're gonna go over these uh results of the NFL
Personality and Psychological Profile test here just a minute.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
I figure bringing the boss in because.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Uh, you know, he may have a differing perspective than
just you know, guys who work with the every day.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
But having to manage me, she might have a different perspective.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Real quick, before we get into that's breaking news in
the last segment, Brian Schottenheimer, he is the new head
coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
GUYSH quick thoughts on that you're about to get a
lot of stuff wrong because you're getting a lot of picks, right,
that's my first thing.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Because you've been on a roll. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
A matter of fact, if Mike McCarthy or Joe Brady
gets hired by the Saints, I will have hit the
entire the entire I.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Would have hit the cycle. Yeah, that's impressive.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'm wonder you know, it's interesting that we have in
this conversation because even though you've gotten the coaching hires, right,
you show me the money.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Has been in the universe balances. Yeah, I'm having a
horrible weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Uh money, It was absolutely brutally batter I looked get
into some of this higher though.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I mean, it's kind of underwhelming, I would shot Uber.
I'm interested to see what it'll be. It's one of
those things where I'm like, you know, he's been in
the league twenty three years, he's been around a while.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
His personal skill set might be better for a head
coach than coordinator.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
He's not really the you know the extras and oh's
field to flow game kind of guy. Have you ever
met him? He's more of a CEO manager type he
is where I want.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
To answer that. I'm happy that he's getting this opportunity.
The part that is disappointing for me is that his
dad isn't here to flashing him do it.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah. Yeah, the most disappointing thing. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Marty wash and Dave Logan played for Marty shot Himer
by way knew Brian back when he was, you know,
just a little kid rolling around the locker room. I
said that, but but I will say this, Marty was
more of a very gracious to me when I briefly
know him, and he was he was at absolutely phenomenal.
He would be and people said he coached hard, but man,
he was phenomenal to me. Answered every question I ever
texted him, emailed him, whatever, took the time out to

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answer every question, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
And may he rest in peace. What a great guy.
So this pro scan.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
PDP global thing, by the way, they've got there based.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Out of Colorado Springs. Actually I know it says Oklahoma
down here.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's where this dude is who does the sporting branch
for these guys, because they have a like a thing
they do for the business world as well.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
But this is, uh, this is something they're getting into
and this is the personality.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
DYNETA is not a cognitive thing more as it is
a relationship will aspect type test to gage your psychled.
The idea here is to find people that are better
ways to construct coaching staffs, better ways to uh, to
make meetings more efficient, that kind of thing, because if
you've got somebody who's like, hey, get to the point,
get to the point, versus a storyteller who's up there

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presenting well, they might get annoyed with each other and
create a.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Hostile work environment.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
So there's different insights in yours as we go. So
we'll open to the first page and all you guys
have one right here. And I'll read lost. You guys
can understand. I got a question, was this thing is?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
So?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Is there think? Is a scouting report? That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Essentially, it's supposed to be a psychological scouting report on somebody.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
How long did you take to take it? Not very long.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
It took me a matter of minutes. It really is
sixty things that you got to got to do. But
it really was, I mean I was done.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do you mean sixty things you got to do? What
kind of stuff?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, it's like it's like a word that's in there,
and then you put to one through five as to
how much it relates to you, and like there's there's
like little little things like that, and there's there's a
brick of thirty and then there's another.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Brick of thirty.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
What's a sample question? That's not a question? Some the
scenario or what have Yeah, Like, uh, it'll say if
one of the words was concrete and you put a
one through five in there, right, some of them will
ask like what would you use this word to describe yourself?
Or no, would you use this word? How do you
think other people would use this word to describe you?

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Or no?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Those kinds of things and you go through and it.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Gives a self assessment what you think the assessment of
you is that kind of stuff, and the idea is
it projects this part right here, which you guys have
in front of you.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Which projects something called They give you three here.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
One says natural self, one says priority environment, one says
outward self. So natural self is what you are at
your baseline level record to this thing.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
U The second one.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
They're priority environment. And you can see the little dots
and the arrow's point in the big dots. That's what
you are under stress. So if you move it all,
if you get stressed in a stressful environment, this is
you know what you move through. And then the last
one is how other people see you. And ideally you'd
want that to match up and kind of almost overlap,
and you guys can see mine more or less overlaps.
There might be some extremes there, but more or less over.

(04:07):
So as we look at this, it's dropped into categories.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Right.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Dominance is the first category, and that's not necessarily being
like a dominant per se. It's more about if you
walk into a room and you're not you're low on
this dominant thing, which I'm above the middle, would you
be You'd be like a wallflower if you're.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
On the far into this.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
It'd be like the guy who walks in the locker
room sees a card game going on, said hey, deal
me in, without even knowing what they're playing, any of
that kind of stuff. Like that kind of guy. Right, Okay,
So this says that I am more to the dominance,
so more to the deal me inside, but not very
far into that. So I'm more a little bit more
assertive in terms of entering a social situation, but not aggressive.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Or or elbowing my way in as it were. I
disagree with that. And I see right there we already
got a disagreement.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, I mean, let's be love to remember when we
had a sales meeting downstairs, Remember, and who is sitting
there buried in the back and doesn't want to it's
fair around that is I'm like, hey, get up and
start start shaking hands with these those people that could
put money in your back and these people to make
this place go.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
And you were stalled out.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I mean, I'm like, what we so No, actually I
did not find you to be that way.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
If you love this, you sit here and just that
is a good example.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
But that also is probably why I'm in the middle here,
because there are situations where I elbow my strike. For instance,
when you're here talking to guys during the break and
I kind of come in here and start clowning around.
So there's an instance that would come encounter to that.
I would say that would I'm in the middle. However,
when I'm stressed out, I become very much more dominant
in assertive, according to this profile.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
So that would explain a lot of things that happen.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
On social media. It might actually it might. That is
a good that's a good pull I see playing like.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
I'm like, did you see these fas?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I know would I would be canvas for this and
they could see this you said about this sertain they
just definitely definitely everything.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Boy, this is the extra version. You can see.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I'm well into the extra of her category. I don't
think anybody thinks I'm actually an introvert. I don't like
anybody within the sound of my voice right now is
not thinking Benjamin Albright's an introvert.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Anyone's ever met me?

Speaker 4 (06:09):
No, I mean, anyone who's read any of your tweets introvert?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
I agree with that, and then then you know, it's
interesting how you'll dress because you either like don't care or.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
You're like way, you know, way over to the flamboyant. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
So there it's interesting because when I would see you
as out of working with you, I'd be like, oh,
this guy loves him to him and he's he's just
dying for everyone to look at him in these costumes.
He's running around him.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I'm saving that you can work with.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
This guy's constantly putting on some show, and then you
actually show up to work most of the time.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
So what's on a tea shirt? Like you just rolled
out of bed and you and your sister's sweater over here? Yeah,
well that's okay.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Category here makes you a bit hard to read. I
do have met The next category here's and patience, and
I have a much of this. You always go around
below the midline on this. And what that means is
is that I probably have a low tolerance for explaining
something to somebody and then having to re explain it
to them. So that that's that's really kind of what
that what that adheres to. It's not that I'm a
slower paced person. It's that I I I am more if.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I explain somebody to some of it, I expect them
to get it. So you have no patience, That's what
it translates.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I mean, I wouldn't say I have no patience, but
if you disagreed with me. When I talked to him
about this, He's like, you have patience with people, And
I think I have some, but I do kind of
expect that if I if you ask me for something
and I lay it.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Out for you, I do. I am like that. Do
you want to change a statement? Is that no?

Speaker 6 (07:43):
I mean, as a new guy who was, you know,
producing Ben's show for a bit, I definitely made my
fair share of mistakes.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I felt like he was plenty patient with me.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
Now, I guess that's not having to re explain something
to me that specific instance.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
But I think that's kind of in the same realm.
I think he's now, let me help you on Zach.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
But the fact that of us learning that Ben has
very a very low tlemis of patients. Let's just say
for sake of argument, Ben is a football coach, right,
and something doesn't go the way.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
That he wants. But that's that's the point. Will he
yell and his player a lot of TV. But see
I don't. So you're saying maybe a little Sean Payton
over lot. I say, I don't yell. That's the other thing,
Like I do shut you off, like I just cut
it off, Like I don't. I don't yell at people.
I just cut him off, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
So like I'm not I'm not gonna let I'm not
a I'm not what you need to call it, like
emotionally expressive like that, I will all make jokes about you,
but like you'll notice also by the way, I've just
skipped the categer conformity, which really is about rules and
rule breaking or how often you follow the rules. I'm
slightly to the rules side in a homeostasis setting, but
under stress it shoots way to the other side where

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I just bucked the rules and don't care, which I
thought was.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
To answer that question what just said. And I asked
him about this because I was asking.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
About this like in an operational environment or a workplace deenvirontment,
and I was comparing it.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
To the army.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
He's like, in the Army, you were probably a person
that when stuff hit the fan, you just took it
upon yourself to you were like, I don't trust anybody else.
You took it about yourself to get stuff done, which
I would say is an accurate assessment of how I
was then. Now whether I'm that way here or not now,
I couldn't tell you, but but that would be uh.
And then this other one here the uh the logic
that's that's how much you trust your gut versus how

(09:21):
much you need to gather all the facts before you
make a decision.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
So I'm very much in the trust my gut side. Yeah, Well,
which one you get me there to talk about?

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Here?

Speaker 1 (09:29):
You just blew through three up, Well, you can pick anyone.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm just trying to speed this up a little so
we can because there's a couple of things I want
to get to for aunt of time.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think the patience one is hard for me to
really give you a lot of credit for because you're
so easily distracted by things, like I think, if things
are going your way, you're engaged.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
If they're not, you're just making out of your phone, right,
And so one is a hard one for me to read.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
The conformity one, I mean, it's uh, I don't know, man,
it took a minute a good minute to get through
to you on some things.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
So that's why I would say it was accurate, because
there are sometimes I just like there's structure and I
just feel like I exist outside of it or somewhere,
you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Once you get something, then and you know, then you're yeah,
I mean you're you're You're actually pretty easy to keep
on track with things.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
They let me let me go back for a second.
Are you sure you want to continue with this? It's
absolutely fun. I have no problem taking it on the
chin where I need to take it on the chin.
I'm just asking no text.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
All I wants to know if what if this reveals
I'm the quarterback of the Raiders, well I.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Should hope not. That would be the most devastating assessment.
I think it possibly when.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Somebody says to you, hey, don't tweet it that person,
and then you do it anyone, you do it anyway.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
That conform it. That's what I understressed. It shoots way
over here to nonconformist. It's also I hold it to
get you not to do it. Should they tell you
go ahead and do it with the hope that you
don't do it? Well, according to this.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
The best way to read this would be in those
stressful type situations, it would you would have to have
some type of conversation because I'm going to take it
upon myself to break the role basically, right, So you
got to.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Find something where I take it.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I take either take the opportunity away from myself or
I find a way to bring myself down from the
environment that I'm in according to this, so uh and
then the last part here what you're gonna love is, uh,
the the energy level, the energy style of kinetic energy,
which right here suggests that I what's called a rocket ship,
which is somebody that starts off real fast on something
like I get a new project, I start them all in.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I start off real fast, and I got ideas we're
going to do this. And then as the uh, yeah,
is the run out of fuel as you go the.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Guy who uh read eighty percent of every book that
I get that kind of stuff, you know, and it
basically says that I lack a little bit of follow through,
which you and I've had this conversation, so I knew
you'd find that, like in the way in the last week.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Maybe Yeah, that one is stoush, A bad deal with you.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I mean, I don't know if I've worked with someone
with less follow through than Ben. I mean, I can't
tell you, like, hey, you got a number for this guy, Yeah,
I'll send it to you.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
It never happens. I finally go through on that though, finally,
and I say, hey, how about putting up a blog
or something like they bust.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Our bodies here to have to do? Sure, no problem,
do that every single week. When's the last one you
put anything on?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
October? What year? This past year? October? This past year
I put up. Yeah, so the follow the rocket ship?
That is it?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Absolutely, But but once you actually ask him to take
the action of something, the follow through is about is
disappointing and unreliable as one one day.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
I've experienced that before within when we made a little
gentleman wager and he owed me Martinelli's and it took
him almost eight months.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Even it was four months, but I brought you a
gallon was eight months.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Because every time it would come up, You're like, oh,
I got you next time, And then once you come
into the studio, I was like, where's that Martinelli's? You
know what?

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Next time?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I got you? So I'm gonna skipping a few pages
here to uh suspens most of the charge swippy to
backup stones.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
This is what happens, and this is their their thing
to me, says if I run out of energy or patience,
it's just not worse to the effort. And so what
happens is I run to these these traits as things
to do that I'll verbally attack.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
In some cases I may not do it, but I may.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Feel like doing it if it, says, indicates when all
else fails, you may give exhausting or overexplanation. If you
feel cornered, ignored, or not appreciate or valued, you will
interrupt or talk too much at times, overpower with persuasion,
or sometimes launching a verbal attack. Any of those seem
now I think most of you have seen me on
Twitter know the verbal attack is actually means mean tweets.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Then yeah, I'm just sitting here just thinking like what's
cycling through Dave's head right now as you read that.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, Okay, learn responses for fit situations be more direct, precise,
and to the point, the objective and realistic about situations,
and people don't interrupt and attach failure, don't attach fail
or lack of success to a task rather than taking
it personally.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
And how did it describe you? Which part just the
that you just we've read before? How how you can
adjust that?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I need to be more direct, precise and to the
point in communications that I need to be more objective
and realistic about situations. Uh, listen and not interruption and
let others complete the thought and that which I know
is a problem and.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Then no one right there, You're really bad by him.
And then the listening and just the focus is pretty rough.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
And then attaching failure or a lack of success to
a task rather than take it personally, because I do
like if something fails, I do take it personally. That
if I was involved in it and they're saying that
I need to stop carrying that weight personally, attach it
just to the task didn't and then learn to take
the objectives from it.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I find that you're you're failure direct though, So yeah,
that's that was one of the ones. I was like,
I don't think I'm meandering.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I'm a pretty direct tell as far as as far
as stuff goes, So that that that makes sense anyway,
there are some other there's some other stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
In here that we can we can get young men,
we can get to on this. Nick's getting kick out
of this. I'm trying to find Oh, here we go.
What makes you tick? You guys find that page real quick.
We got the committed here real quick. This to get
on it makes you been tick? Or we can just
go it go to the last page. How to connect
with me?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
This tells you, guys, how to according to this, how
you guys should interact with me.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
It says that in these in most cases, you're going
to want to either in the let me collaborate.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
To let me take charge.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'm pretty close to the middle on that collaborate let
you take charge in the situation let me collaborate, or
let me take charge. I mean slightly do to take charge,
but really it's more of a collaborating thing. Uh, let
me engage versus let me ponder. I am very much
in the let me engage meaning I'm gonna ask you questions.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
You know that kind of thing that.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Give me predictability or give me variety. I am well
into give me variety.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
King.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
If you give me predictability, I get bored.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Uh give me guidelines versus give me freedom. It's saying
that I like the freedom, but you should probably give
me guidelines that were for me to be affective as now.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
That one, I don't think for you. That one is
one where you, you, I mean literally will come to
me and ask for guidelines and direction on things and
feedback on things. Okay, So I I don't the other ones,
I think those are I think that those are fair.
I think I think the freedom part of it, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
I'm not. I'm not sure. I think you actually are
looking for the direction. Okay. And then this last one,
which is by far mind you do the right thing
and act like it when I did. The last one
is give me facts and proof or value my intuition.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
And I am very much over hearing to value my intuition,
which is funny because what I do is seek facts
in things like that.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
So I found that to be interesting. Value your intuition.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yes, I believe other people value my intuition over you know,
like questioning me for facts and proof.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
You definitely want people value your intuition, yes, certainly.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
So.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Anyway, I hope you guys enjoyed that I'm gonna put
I'm gonna end up posting.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
All this stuff, so it's interesting all these different things though,
that these you know teams or that the league you know.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Has folks go through it is interesting.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
The idea here, like I said, is to several coaching
staffs and players, and so coaches know how to coach
players that have certain you know, what if you're a
somebody that needs to be told directly, or what if
you're somebody that's okay with anecdote and needs to speak,
What if you're a quiet guy versus a lot you
know how to get through to So it's it's it's
designed to help facilitate and create great teams across the board.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
So whatever works.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
I got rocket Man playing in the background. Hey, you're
the rockets. Heer the rocket apparently according to my Yeah,
the other one. There's that, there's that, and then there's
the only three percent. I learned something I learned toda
before you get there. The uh, only three percent of
the population are locomotives. So the Rocket Man, you know,
you start off fast and then you trail off right. Yes,
these are the people that are so organizing, only slow

(17:31):
to get going, but once you get going, they're awesome.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
That makes up three percent of the population. That sounds
like a rhino.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, and then most people are balanced, most people have
a have a healthy balance. I'm on the other end,
so yeah, there's not much healthy balance. I'll get through
the red zone. I need somebody else to put it
in the Rocco's country.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
I'd be back after this.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Fun getting inside my brain or whether these people think
is inside my brain in the last sect, but said
Dave Tepper first swinging by and having some fun with
h with that segment as well. Five six six nine
zeros text line again, the breaking news is Ryan Schottenheimer
is the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Carol,
of course, announced to the Raiders earlier today. And so

(18:17):
if either Mike McCarthy or Joe Brady gets the Saints job,
I uh, I'm not wearing past the office anymore. I'm
just telling you what, Dave Tepper right there, I'm just
saying it. I'm just putting it out there. I'm just
I'm laying up, throwing the gutlet down right now. Can't
nobody tell me nothing at that point? Oh, you're gonna
get told something.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Kanye, It was like I can say anything. I wa
maybe you just dropped him the.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Next day, jeez, exactly.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
So I love the fact that you're throwing that out there,
You're pounding your chest with authority.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
But I know that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Now. You may walk up to the building with no
pants on, you won't be allowed to come in the building.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I'm gonna keep don't have to turn it off.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Well, I mean, you're saying it as though that cannot
be done. Oh very much, Okay, okay. I remember my
first week here. I went to the door and I
was like jiggling the handle and like it was not
letting me in, and like.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Already it was funny because with a day like I
didn't even know and so like Dave Rick and Kathy
Lee were walking out at the same time when I
was walking in in days ago, they already.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
To revoked your carge. What moment the Jets player was
standing right there trying to Yes, that was Jamal Adams. Yeah, Jamal,
that's right, Jamal Adams. Get the door open, the key
cards already revoked. It'd be very careful, Benjamin, very careful. Right,
all right, Well, without without any further ado, let's get
to uh an NFL six pack for the NFL. I'm

(19:47):
gonna track a lot of beer insight. Insight information you
can't find anywhere else. The top six NFL had mind.
What well, let's start off, what's breaking news.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Cowboy have hired their own offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer as
the head coach, who port follows one from Clarence Hill
on Thursday that the Cowboys are negotiating with him. Schottneimer's
fifty one will replace Mike McCarthy. Hiring a surprise based
on Jones' eight previous hires. Since he bought the team
at eighty nine, his previous coaches have had familiarity. Jimmy Johnson,
Very Switzer, Dave Campo, Jason Garrett and Or were former

(20:22):
head coaches. Johnson, Switzer, Chan Gailey, Bill Parcells where he
fellows Spike McCarthy. Schottenneimer has never been a head coach,
but the Cowboys were comfortable with him after having him
on staff the past three years. Schottenneimer follows Campo and
Garrett as assistant coaches in the Cowboys staff, whom Jones
promoted to the head coach. Shot hiring allows Jerry Jones,
who doubles the general manager, to maintain control and remain

(20:42):
to face the franchise. Schottenheimer also should come at a
lower salary than the other coaches hired the cycle because
he had no other suitors. He's hiring, though not likely
to bring my hope to the fans of the franchise
and the longest drought without a trip to the NFC
Championship Game. The Cowboys won the Super Bowl in the
ninety five season and that was their last appearance the
championship game. Schttenheimer, of course, on a long time NFL
head coach, Marty Schottenheimer the Cowboys in twenty twenty two

(21:05):
as a coaching analyst and earned a promotion of the
OC job when the Cowboys and Kellen Moore parted ways
after twenty twenty three. Schottenheimer did not call plays under
Mike McCarthy, who left the team in his contract aspired
January fourteenth. Cowboys also interviewed Seattle assistant Leslie Frasier former
Jets head coach Robert Sala, who they interviewed really for
the defensive coordator job. He is not going to take
it there. He will take the San Francisco job and

(21:26):
made a virtual lettery with Kellen Moore, who's the Eagles
offensive cooridator. What do we think of the Dallas Cowboys
hiring Brian Schottenheimer Broll.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
I think Jerry got exactly what he wanted, which is
the ability to stay in control. Like you say, you
hire Seaten Helmer, who has never been in this position before,
no other interviews, So obviously the salary is going to
be favorable. But it was all about continuity. But when
you think about it, I mean, Son Hummer has been

(21:52):
around Dak Prescott. An idea is you want to make
him at least as comptable as you can. And when
give the look at the fact that Kevin Moore also
interview for this job, a guy who played behind at Prescott,
a guy who was on this coaches dab once before,
but he knew the price tag he being Jerry.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Was gonna be too high. So this is kind of
a feasible option.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
And oh, by the way, if it don't work out
in the year, guess what Jerry's gonna do arre him anyway,
move on exactly.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I bet this will be a short term, two to
three year contract type deal. It's very low cost and
if he wants to move on after this season, he's
certainly certainly.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
Even considering that, you know, Jerry's kind of given these
guys along leash.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
In the past, Jerry like, honestly, that's one of the
things a lot of the narratives surrounding Jerry Jones aren't
exactly true.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
He is one of the guys who gives a long
leash to coaches.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
You look at Along Jason, Garrett Gott, you look at
along guys like Dave Campo and Chan Gaily, and.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Those guys got they got longer.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
He had the quick hook with Barry Switzer and all
that kind of stuff, you know, after the Jimmy thing.
But as he settled into the role of owner, he's
given longer leashes to to you know, to his coaches.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
But it might be a quick hook here because once again,
as you're saying, this is not a sexy pick, it's
not fire up the fan base. So if things doesn't
go well, he would be able to go to the well.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Again.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Listen, we see what they did in New England, right
one and done, So Jerry is capable of doing the
same thing. Two.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
The e Raiders someone else, the hiring of John spy
Tech is their new general manager. The team announced it
tonight on Twitter Spytech replaces Tom Telesco, who's fired on
January ninth.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
The new general manager spent nine.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Years with the Buccaneers, overlapping with Raiders minority owner Tom
Brady's time. They're a starting quarterback. Spy Tech has also
worked here with the Denver Broncos. He's been with the Browns, Eagles,
and Lions at a career that spans twenty three years.
The Raiders are expected to officially name Pete Carroll the
team's new head coach here shortly. Although it's been reported
that he's agreed to the job, it has not been
officially announced yet.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
What do we think of John spy Tech and Pete Carroll. Well,
I don't know too much about spy Tech.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
I know about Tom Brady Pete Carroll, and all I'll
say is that both of those guys combined and done
some amazing things in this league. And if you throw
Spike Teck in doing exactly what Tom may have envisioned
for the Raiders, but also you know, kind of playing
to what Pete Carroll wants to do, that team should
be competitive and it might.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Not show up right away. In twenty twenty five, we
might be.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Looking at twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, before we
actually get an idea of what this trio actually can
do in the AFC West, a very talented and competitive
AFC wes three.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
No, still on through there, buddy, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Two?

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah, we go.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
What do you think of Spy Tech and Pete Carroll? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:38):
You know.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
I think it's gonna make the AFC West a lot
more competitive. I kind of agree with Nick's point. I
think it'll be a few years until we know the returns.
My concern there is before even coaching a game in
this over and Black, Pete Carroll is the oldest head
coach in NFL history. Are we going to see two
or three more years of this because we're already entering
uncharted waters.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
That we are.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I love we had Corbin on earlier today. He was like, Hey,
this guy could coach to his eighties and still be
considered young. That would be fascinating to see. It's gonna
be interesting. It's gonna be interesting to see what Pete
Carroll does with his fourth NFL team, fourth NFL head
coaching job. But it puts him in rare air in
terms of how many guys have gotten that kind of opportunity.
So it'll be fascinating to see you only one NFL
coach or one, excuse me not NFL. One professional head

(25:20):
coach has ever won a Super Bowl with two different
teams that we weep.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
You bank the legendary web you bank back in the
nineteen thirties. Pete Carroll now the fourth with four different teams.
You just said, here you go. Free. JT. Barrett is
going to be the Bears new quarterbacks coach.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Another Lions assistant, following Ben Johnson to the Bears. Lions
assistant quarterback coach eighteen, Barrett will be the quarterbacks coach,
according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune. Former Ohio
State quarterback Barrett was on multiple off season of preseason
rosters back in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen. Spent some time
with the Edmonton Elks in the CFL in twenty twenty two,
but was not on the active roster. Joined the Lions

(25:56):
in twenty twenty two as an offensive assistant, serves as
assistant quarterback coach.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Last two seas.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Lions receivers coach Antwine Randall l will be the Chicago
assistant head coach and receivers. Coach Barrett will become the
first line tutor for Caleb Williams, the team's other quarterback.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
What do we think of JT.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Barrett and Antoine randall Ll both for being hired by
the Lions.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
I like this and the reason I like it because
both of those guys were you can say, very versatile
type of quarterbacks. Because you think about what ran Duel
was in college before he got to the Pittsburgh Stillers
and it became mister versatility, sort.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Of like Cordell Stewart.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
And when you have a young guy like Caleb Williams
who wants to get outside the pocket and use his athleticism, you.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Have two guys one and J. T.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Barrett, who was that guy for Ohio State, and then
you have Randuell, who now coaches are wide receivers.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
So now this is a match made in heaven.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
And this is going to be a thrown in the
backside of Detroit Lions fan because you just watched Ben
Johnson over the past few years do some creative and
successful Now he is staying within the division and you're
gonna have.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
To see him twice a year. Yeah, it's gonna be
fascinating to watch that and watch them get to see that.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
You know, my main curiosity there in the NAC North
now is what does the Lion's staff look like after
this mass exodus? And what does that team look like
after this?

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Is Dan Campbell the magic? Was it his assistance? We're
about to find out. Yes, that's a great thing about
the great game in NFL. Yeah, all those great player coaches.
Berg and I were talking earlier.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
I mean, I think the secret sauce in Detroit might
be their incredible player development with all those position coaches.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Or Robert Sala and the Niners were waiting for the
head coaching jobs to be filled before they announced it
and make it official Raiders head coach, Raiders hiring Pete
Carroll's their head coach. Cowboys promotion to Brian Schottenheimer makes
it official. Salo will return to San Francisco as the
forty nine Ers defensive coordinator. The team's already announced it.
The interviewed with the Cowboys, Jacks, and Raiders and a
pair of front runner for the job in Jacksonville. Indeed,

(27:57):
I remember I reported that he would be the higher
in Jacksonville if Trent Balkey was kept Bulky fired Lee
and Cohen, the Guy Fox's offensive coordinator, began negotiating Thursday
after they fired Trent Balke. Sala canceled his flight to
Jacksonville late Thursday for a second interview scheduled for today,
and the Jacks hired Cohen. Salo spent four plus season
as a Jets head coach, going twenty and thirty six in.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
His time in New York. Team fired him five games
into this past season.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Sala initially joined the Niners in twenty seventeen with his
old Gas No Breaks defense became one of the top
units in the league within two years where in San Francisco,
landed him Jets job and it could lead to a
second opportunity as a head coach.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
After the twenty twenty five season.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
What do you think about Robert Salad going back to
the Niners as defensive coordinator.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
I like this because cohesion and familiarity, and you look
at the fact that Nick Sawnson was trying to implement
that same defense that both he and Robert Sala learned
under Gus Bradley in Seattle, but he.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Did really worked out for him.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
And then evaluating the coaching staff, like Kyle does every
single year. He realized that there was a missing element
and time is everything. So with Salid being out of work,
Nick Soursen being relieved of his play calling and duties eficively,
I mean, it's like the Blues Brothers, you get in
the band back together.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
That's exactly what this is.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
And if Rock Purdy can rekim the what he was
able to do two years ago, and then you get
a healthy squad, I mean San Francisco could be right
back in the midst and Robert Sala could be right back.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
In his syco five.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Let's see here the shdoor.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Sanders made a good first impression with Titans coach Brian Callahan.
Titans hold a number one overall pick in the twenty
twenty five drafts, and president of football Operations Chad Breakers
said earlier this week the team wouldn't pass on a
generational talent. While the focus has been on Colorado corner
receiver Travis Hunter, who they were really referring to was
Penn State ed rusher Abdul Carter.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
The Titans need a quarterback, they need draft picks, they
need a lot of draft picks. Just needed a lot
of help.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
So trained the top pick or selection of the top
quarterback with the first pick. Both remain on the table.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Titans coach Brian Callahan spent time with Colorado.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Quarterback Shindor Sander on today at the East West Shrine Bowl.
New general manager Mike Borganzi Brinker, assistant coaches and scouts
were also on hand. Jim Wyatt, who works for the
team website, was reporting there. Callahan came away from the
with a positive first impression of Sanders, son of Colorado
coach in Pro Football Hall of Famer Dion Sanders. Callahan said,
you can tell he's been raised right. He's mature, really

(30:20):
poised way about him. He seems like a really good kid.
I enjoyed talking to him, and you can tell he's
a guy who has been in the spotlight. He knows
how to handle himself. He's been paid money, so he
has a financial perspective. Sanders did not throw, but he
scheduled to take part in practices in the coming days.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Callahey called the pre draft.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Process invaluables it relates to quarterbacks, especially for a first exposure.
For this was invaluable for me to put a name
to a face for shut door and talk to him
there are other players here too that you get your
first exposure to in the scouting process. Of note, Dion
interrupted the meeting with the team with a FaceTime call
to check in on his son during the interview. It

(30:55):
was not I he didn't plan on interrupting the interview,
didn't know he's interviewing. He facetimed him and they said
go ahead.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
And wow.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
That's rather interesting because I guess they I guess that
gave them an early insight into what things could be
if they do select him.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Could his father, I guess, have more input as far
as what's going.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
On with him. Maybe so.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
But I think it's really interesting for teams to be
able to get a chance to sit down with guys
who they may select, just to kind of get that
early interview and just kind of poking pod and see
what it's going through their heads and put them through
mental game like situations to see how they would handle them.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I like that portion of it.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
I think that portion of mental scouting is so valuable.
And I think the financial point that Callahan mentioned.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Is also very interesting.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
And you're not used to interviewing college kids that you
know they're not gonna be wowed by the twenty million
dollars that's suddenly going to hit their bank account. Hopefully
roofs hit rates and these guys adjusting to that NFL estyle.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, you know, I have to worry about this guy
gets some money, Is he gonna go nuts? We already
know what he's like with the money, right

Speaker 4 (32:07):
So he got in the bag coming in Yeah, bag
has already been having the loud luggage
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