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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right here alongside Nick ferguson tonight, and uh, look, a
lot of conversation about what the Broncos' biggest needs are
of this offseason. I think if you pull the fan
base Broncos Country is gonna have a handful of different
suggestions that may be running back and maybe tight end.
Some have even said receiver, maybe linebacker. That's what we're
here to discuss here tonight. You want to get involved
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six nine zero, Nick, you want to talk about this area,
and we said we're gonna save it for this look
at the Broncos' biggest needs this offseason. I know we
talked about what the Broncos could learn from some of
these teams that are you know, made it deep into
the playoffs. Here, where are you at in terms of
if you had to pull it today, what is the
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biggest need that the Broncos have to address here this offseason?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Offense or defense? Offense?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
For me?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Tight end?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, I know obviously you would think that, oh, I'm
gonna say running back, that would be nice, But I'm
thinking tight end having.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And not just any tight end. Now, let's just say
the tight end is not a great inline blocker.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
All right, I'm not gonna hold that against him because
a lot of tight ends and in college football.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It ain't block anyway. So for me, my guy's Tyler Warren.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I if the Broncos could say, identify a guy, go
get a guy, I want them to get that guy.
But having a tight end that brings some physicality, and
you may want that physicality and inline blocking, but that
you don't necessarily need that. You just need a guy
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who is committed to just getting in the way. I
just want to make sure at the end of the
day that my guy did not make the tackle. But
the biggest thing is you need a guy who can
run routes, and you want him to run routes like
well wide receiver per se, because when you look at
bow Nick's ability to escape the pocket, either if it's
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in the interior or on the edges, you want to
make sure that you have a weapon that he can.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Dump the ball down to and he can run.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Through a couple of tackles and set you up for
another first down or hen gets you a touchdown, or
when the opposing defensive coordinator look at the scout on report.
He's gonna say, well, we have to make sure we
have to have hard edges to make sure that Bow
doesn't get out of the pocket. If he does, we
have to make sure we keep our eyes on this
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tight end because if we don't, he's a threat in
a vertical passing game, and he's a threat to take
short catches and take.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Them for explosive place.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
You want that type of guy in If the Broncos
had that type of guy, hell me, you or Zach
could play running back because guess what now the defense
has to respect the passing game and you're not gonna
have that many guys.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
In the box.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
So you're telling me at the NFL level, like I
gets seven yards?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes you can't. All right, I like it.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
I'll take you. What about Ryan Edwards?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Can you get?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
What?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Can he get seven yards?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I don't know. I don't know. I may, if you're
knock like, he may average about one point five. But
that's my guy.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
First of all, you have the question is does Ryan
love contact? That's the thing we have.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I know he can run, but I don't only if
he loves contact. So I can't run right now. I
mean you can run straight ahead? I can't.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, But if you need me to like run a
post corner post, I probably can't do.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
That right now.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I've got a way sale on my left knee.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Okay, that's not what I'm asking I'm asking you if
we if we, if we ran a lead iso, can
you go straight ahead?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Can you do that? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Then we can run lead option and I could I
could crack block the inside linebacker. I'll probably die through it.
I'll tell you what. There was a guy who I
played against. This guy in high school went to the NFL.
He played for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
He was drafted by the Jacksonville Jaggers.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Tyrone Holmes.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Okay, okay me, I'm five ten five, I'm a I'm
a slot receiver, I'm a corner, and we run a
play on offense called, you know, lead option.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
My job is to try to crack block him.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And he's six foot four and eighty five pounds.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I barely moved him. And I was the most excited
I've been in a while. I was like, I got
in his way though. We ran it. We ran a
twenty yard play off.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It went outside.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I did my job. I moved him just a tiny bit,
and I was like, I was like, I felt good.
You go back and watched the film barely. I was like,
it felt better than it looks off him. Right, But
there is that I agree with.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You at the tight end position, right, because here I
am kind of SMA. I've talked about the need like
a running back. It'd be nice to have a guy
like Sakwuon, but there aren't guys like that. It's hard
to find guys like that. You look at the free
agency market. There's Aaron Jones.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
From the Minnesota Vikings, gonna be turning thirty one.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You look at other guys, there's Najie Harris, which a
lot of people say, hey, Nage might be an option.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think Denver scheme has to evolve a little bit
to where you have more concepts, where you can pull
your guards to get to the next level. Right, your
tackles will block down your guards pulled out to kick
out the end guys, and then you know you might
have a full back lead there demmer one with a
lot of twelve to thirteen personal last year, like Nick.
It goes back to this, so Lucas Kroll, who didn't
really have a big role in the offense this year,
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led all tight ends in receptions with nineteen. Adam Troutman,
who was the primary guy who got a majority of
the reps of that position this year, had one hundred
and eighty eight yards receiving.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Now he and Nate Atkins, they all had.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Touchdowns this year, but the Broncos didn't get any production
from that position.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
So I'm with you, Tyler Warren.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And right now, I think is the guy everyone in
Broncos country, Yes, fans, right, yeah, we want Warren. Obviously
there's leveland out of Michigan there's Gunner Helm out of Texas.
I think an underrated name to watch and obviously he's
turning hands right now at the Shrine Bowl. Is Iowa's
lucasche number eighty five and as we all know, Iowa
tight end. You think it's safe to say that in
the way that they produce it. You look at guys
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like little Fan, big body guy.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
You look at guys like Sam.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Laporta, George Kittle, those guys are producing. But you look
at the playoffs right now, who do the Chiefs have?
They have Travis Kelce didn't necessarily have a massive game
in terms of the numbers in yesterday's game here, but
you need a first down, Guess who Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Went to him?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Josh Allen tried to go to Kincaid or Knox didn't
necessarily work out. I can't remember which one had a
drop that was very key for them late in that game.
You look at Lamar, Yeah, King, Dalton, Kincaid, You look
at Lamar Jackson, You got Mark Andrews had that bad drop.
You have Isaiah likely who catches that clutch touchdown there
that would give them a chance to obviously beat Buffalo
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if they were able to convert the two point. And
then you look at other teams that are in the
playoff cycle right now, the detail lines, even though they're out,
they had Sam Laporta.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Like you have to have a good sight in here.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And as we all know it, I know going into
several meetings every single week as a player, and you
probably know this as well. As a safety, you're more
likely to go are the tight end and the inside
linebacker right in most cases, and in today's NFL out
of the two high show absolutely you're gonna be more
man coverage on tight ends than you are gonna get
an inside linebacker unless you have a guy who's really
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dynamic that can do that. Fred Warner is the guy
that can cover that. You know, the Broncos didn't have
the element in the pass game. You know for a
young quarterback like Bow next, Okay, Courtland Sudden is number
one guy. You look at Cortland and Bow's third down
numbers together, the efficiency and how teams are like, hey,
third down, we know who number ten is going to.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
He's going to number fourteen.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So towards the end of the year, you saw a
team's bracket cover Courtland with outside coverage where they play
bump and run and they have a safety over the
top and sometimes they would spy a linebacker inside the help.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
On any end breaking routes there.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
If you have a tight end that can at least
just be a guy like Okay, hey, my first rate's Courtland.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm going to Marvinn next.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Those guys are out there, Okay, I'm gonna dump it
off to my tight end.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I'm gonna at least get five or six yards, right Instead,
I'm forced to dump it off to my running back
and hope that he can get positive yards in that situation,
that was not a good enough element of the Broncos
offense this year. In my opinion, offensively agree with you.
I think tight end is more important right now than
running back.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
The reason why I chose tight end too, because in
the playoffs what we've seen when Baltimore played the Bills.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You think about Mark Andrews and how much he was
he was utilized.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Don't think about the mixed cues and the fomboos and
the drought ball.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Just just think about the idea.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Is the volume right because and I was telling Zach
this that when you when you think about that game
Baltimore against the Bills, tight end, that's what the ball
went in the tight situation went to the tight end.
And the game against Kansas City, I mean, Josh Allen
is falling backwards, there's a nickel, there's a corner blitz
from his right side, where's he throwing? The ball ends
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up in the hands of guess what who?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
The tight end.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
To me, the tight end is that safety net for
the quarterback. And all you have to do it's either
inside or outside. Run around, turn around, flash your numbers,
throw it to you. Now we're in second and five.
And if you're a big body guy and you are
physical to bring down, it makes it tougher on defenders.
Like I'm gonna go back to a play that you
were talking about when you say that, you know, when
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you block the linebacker, it seemed like it was a
little more vicious than what it really was. But guess what,
that guy didn't make the tackle. And at the end
of the day, that's what you want. I mean, the
blocks that you made, would you right for them to
be crushing blocks?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Absolutely? But do they have to be?
Speaker 5 (09:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Are you in the right position?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Are your feet and your shoulder square? Are you in
the right position to make sure that guy has to
run for you like you're taking the charge in basketball,
if that is the position, and even if it's not
a crushing hit.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
When the coach turns on the film, were.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Said, Okay, well, that particular play right there that outside
Thomas worked because Cody Wurke just got in his way.
He knew that the guy was much larger than he was.
But all we need you to do is get in
the guy's way. Yes, and you need a tight end
that understands that, but also a tight end that in
the tight situation, you could throw it to him and
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you know, just like Dallas gone him right in Philly.
I mean when they played the Packers, He's mushing dudes
in the face, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I mean that was that caused a lot of like
in the locker room. I mean that was just probably
miserable to be played back in.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That last film session of the year. I said, burn
that tape.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I mean that locker room after the Packers lost, Like
you know, when they clean out, not the post game.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
The post game is very quiet, solemn, but the clean
out that was nobody wanted to talk.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It was demoralizing.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Have you been in a situation, well, something happened to
you as a player that wasn't.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Too favorable that you might want everyone else to forget.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah, plenty, Okay, I've been mossed before it Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So yes it happened. And when that happens, man, that's
a hard peal to swallow.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
And but you want players offensively that can create that
type of atmosphere for the posing defenders because the game
is based on physicality and you need to have a
guy that can do that. But also bow needs more
reliable weapons. And if the Broncos had a tight end
like that, I think it would take Bow's game, it's
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a whole different level. And then also it would increase
the number of plays at any given moment that chan
Payne can call.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Well, It's why it kind of drives me a little
nuts of the conversations like you mentioned earlier about the
prop in today's world of social media, where people will
bring down one player up to prop up another. And
you see that a lot like Broncos fans doing that
with Jade Daniels and Commanders fans doing that with Bonnicks.
Stopped doing that, recognized that there's two really good young
quarterbacks right now. But like the thing that I'll mention here,
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here's what Jaden Daniels has that boon Knicks doesn't. Jaden
Daniels had a veteran security blank like Zach Ertz who
came up big for them late in the season in
the postseason, and they also had a little bit of
a dynamic run game. Not only could Jayden use his legs,
we had a combination of Eckler.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And Robinson.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Like you look at that and it's like, okay, now
you've got Terry McLaurin bow Knicks's number, one guy was
Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
By on large, right, everyone knew that bow Knicks.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Did not have anybody in the run game that could
take that pressure office back because.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
The Broncos offense with Javanta didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
It wasn't consistent enough.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
There was obviously the game against New Orleans he had
two rushing touchdowns, but Javant didn't even finish with five
hundred and fifty yards rushing this year. Bow Knicks in
a third of Denver's games this year was the leading rusher,
and more recently against the Buffalo Bills was the team's
leading rusher.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
So you give bow Knicks a.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Running back or a dynamic run game, you give him
a security blanket tight end, and I guarantee you this
Broncos offense is drastically better and they might actually have
a chance to compete. Even further, the fact that bow
Knicks was able to achieve what he did this year
without those things in his favor to become the second
of all time for passing touchdowns as a rookie for
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passing Baker Mayfield, being two behind Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That's impressive, But yet people want to tear bow down.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
I think what Jaden Damas has done and what Bonick
has done has been terrific. But I will say that
bow Knicks did more with less.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I would definitely agree with that.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
But with that frame of mind, something's got to give,
Something has to change, because think about the whether his
team actually elevated themselves over what the narratives were before
the season started. They surpassed what Vegas odds gave them
as far as winning five games during the season, and
they actually got into the playoffs. And you said, okay, well,
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look at the numbers that Bowl put up. What if
he had a tight end on his side to kind
of help him out in those situations.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Because when you look at the Eagles Commander's game, that
was Goddard at eighty five yards on seven receptions, and
you look at zach Ertz who led the Washington Commanders
eleven receptions one hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And four yards.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
See, the league is telling us something, all right. We
always talk about the quarterback. The league has showed us
something in these last games, and hopefully the Broncos pay
attention to it. You need to go out and grab
yourself in the lead tight end and that would make
things a lot easier for bow in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, and you need that, I mean, and you talk
about just building continuity. Look, Adam troupmhan is back on
the roster this year, Nate Adkins under contract.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
You have to figure out how to get more from
that room.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And Look, it may even be like let's say Nick,
they go on to get Warren from Penn State, right,
he immediately becomes from a receiving standpoint on paper, Right now,
theoretically the best pass catcher had that position for that
and you know, for a guy like Bow and I'll
go back to this even at Oregon when he had
Terrace Ferguson, who also could end up somehow in Denver. Look,
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it's all about the ties that bind and familiarity and
obviously Sean values a lot what Bo has to say. Right,
we'll talk a little bit about Ted Johnson, some Senior
Bowl measurements and things like that. But you have to
figure out how to address this position because I I
think you can.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Make an argument, yes.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
A run game.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I feel like in today's NFL offense, right, it's evolving.
You have to have a quarterback. Diver's got their guy,
they found him. You've got a good receiver. You've got
young receivers who are talented, who are still developing that
I think can do even more for you. We see
that with Troy Franklin. Marvin obviously has grown and has
developed quite a bit in the second half of the season.
Devon Vailey is kind of an under the radar guy
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that I.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Think is still developing.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But you still have to get better at that position.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Right in order for those guys to grow, you need
somebody else to take the pressure of them, right because
when teams bracket Courtland and they try to take him away, now.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
You're putting all the pressure on.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
These young guys to go up there and make place,
and certainly they're going to have to. But if you
have a tight end or even another option, even have
a strong run game, those guys are going to be
allowed to thrive in their position even more and get
those opportunities where maybe the pressure isn't as much on
them going forward. And obviously we can We're going to
continue to talk about how the Broncos can address that.
We'll look at some free agent names maybe the Broncos
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could have interesting in an NFL free agency also focused
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Speaker 2 (16:23):
Line at five to sixty six nine zero.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Continer on a conversation here about the Broncos' biggest needs.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
We're talking a little bit about the tight end position.
We'll get to another one here in a minute. A
couple of.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Free agent options, right, we've already talked about the draft.
To me, I look at a list of available free agents,
there are only a couple that stand out to me.
So for me, unless they're a game changing in a sense,
and the coaching staff and the scouting department they believe that,
I don't know if they're going to go the free
agency route.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
But here here's a couple of names here.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Obviously everyone's looking at Juwan Johnson because of his ties
with the New Orleans Saints. Cody Raeger, the VP of
Player Personnel, has familiarity with him. Pete Carmaker, who was
koshinaiir last year, has familiarity with him, and obviously I
think Sean Payton's got familiarity with him as well.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
That would be a name to watch.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
There another name that I think a lot of people
would be taking a look at, maybe Mike Mike Giseki.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Would he potentially come over.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
The Broncos know him very well, considering he had nearly
one hundred yards against them when they played the Cincinnati Bengals,
in which they had Jamar Chase te Higgins go for
over one hundred and then Gseki almost had one hundred himself.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
That was a rough game by the Broncos defense.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And then I've seen some people throw Tommy Tremble for
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I don't think he's gonna lead Carolina.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I think they want to try to keep some continuity
they were with Bryce Young.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I think they bring him back.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I just don't see the free agent route unless it's
one of those guys Juwan Johnson or Kiseki. At this point,
I know zach Ertz is going to be available. I
don't zach Ertz gonna keep playing. I don't see any
other names here as free agents that you know, really
move the needle from me.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Well, even though he was a little upset last night,
said he's not ready to retire, and I think right
now he may be willing to make a return back
to the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Why wouldn't Yeah, I mean, why wouldn'ty?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I mean he was a reliable weapon for Jayde Daniels
and once again, that Jayden Daniels quarterback tight end relationship
proved so important down the stretch and led to a
lot of those wins, those come from behind, those last
two minute drive type of wins for Jayde Daniels. But
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the whole idea of Mike Yoseki, he wasn't utilized as
well as he needed to be utilized in the Miami
Dolphins offense, even though you know when he was there
he did win some fantasy.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Games for me. Goes back to fantasy football.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
But that's a guy who was definitely will be a
free agent, a guy who the Broncos should definitely look
at to say, well, here's a guy who could make
life easier for our quarterback. And you decided the reason
why because you played against him. You saw what he
was able to do when you flexed him out and
Kasaki wasn't one of those inline blocking guys.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
But you don't need him to block in line. You
just stay.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Outside the numbers, you catch passes, and you just move
the sticks. But I mean, obviously we can't talk about
upgrades until we started talking about in a running back position.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So you were mentioned before we.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Went to the break that there were some running backs
that you had tossed out there that Broncos country.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Was not too keen on. Who were those guys? Well,
there was one guy in particular.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
He's he's gotta you know, he's had some serious injuries
in his career, He's had some in college, but you
know he's coming off of an ACO's coming off of
broken foot. And I'm not saying that the Broncos should
go out and give him a three year contract or
a four year contract, a sat Quan like deal or
Derrick Henry like deal. Not saying that, but I'm saying
if you have a chance to get him maybe on
a one one year deal or a two year deal,
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you know where the second year is just you know,
got a team option on it, and if his medicals
check out with bowl Lowry who nick I don't know
if anyone's been attention to Broncos un Nathaniel Hackett and
the last regime, they were one of the most injured
teams they had, They had the most, the most injuries
by players where games were lost in terms of those players.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Not being able to play.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They go from worse to first and Bowl Lowry's first year,
they were second this year in the NFL because of
the system that they've put in place under both with
the training staff and obviously the medical staff, the nutritionist.
I would take a one year flyer on a guy
like Nick Chubb here in Denver if his medicals checked out,
because if bow Lory says, hey, we're good with it,
that's all I.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Need to know. Bow has shown that he knows.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I mean, let me let me marinatea on that one
for just a second, because obviously I like Nick Chubb
and the way he runs and how tough he is.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Now the only problem with.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
That is that and I'm sure that you got to
push back from Broncos country because Javante was great in
his rookie year. He got injured and everyone and we
know how injury works, especially to lord extremity. You're not
the same player, because maybe you lose a little explosure,
to lose a little power. Now, does that mean that
you were incapable of doing your job?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
No, it doesn't. But for in the minds of other people's.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Like, oh, well, he's not the same anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Well, let me cut into your body.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Mack is uninjured exact this level.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Like if you if you play this game, the injuries
are a part of it.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
But but I listened to what you said. I just
wanted to elevate the conversation just a little more. So
I'm gonna give you a couple of guys, and I'm
gonna let you think about it, as I said, and
you give me to your retort. I'm gonna start from
the bottom and work my way up to the top.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Right, okay, AJ Dillon.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Mozilla, Yeah, all right, Broncos saw he actually got hurt
this year in the Broncos joint training camp practice.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
It ended up putting him out for the rest of
the year.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Hmm. Well, but let's not talk about the injury.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
No, no, no, But he's he's big. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
So when we think about Sean Payton, and I think
about guys that I played against when Sean was coaching
mccows right, big guy, but he was excellent at catching
the ball out of the backup. But if you want
one of those grind him out guys. From a size standpoint,
I was thinking aj Dillon. So, but my next guy
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is Kareem Hunt. I like how he runs.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Yeah, he ros be a popular pick in the eyes
of Broncos country.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
But what are we talking about? Were talking about football, right? Yeah?
Are we trying to win? Yeah? Well, look, if we're
trying to win, we're trying to get some of the
best players.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Isaiah Pacheco went out. He carried the load for that offense. Absolutely.
There was like one game he had twenty nine carries
in the game, over one hundred yards rushing.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Now I don't I've never been in the mind of
Sean Payton. But let me see if I can get
in the mind of Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Right now, if you were to get these.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Next two guys, and here's the reason I'm choosing these
next two guys. When you look at your do everything guy,
we're not looking just at carries.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
We're looking at touches.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Right, because we're running inside zone, we running outside zone,
we're running traps, running those types of you know gap scheme.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Well, we're also throwing it to you in the screen
game and.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Also we're throwing it to you flexing you out to
run those routes.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
So Kareem Hunt can definitely do that. And he's physical.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah right, he's he's always falling forward and he rarely fumbles.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Right, yeah, that's true. Right now, he's my next guy. JK. Dobbins.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Oh do you think he's gonna leave Harborball?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'm just here.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I mean, I wouldn't be imposed.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Hey, hey, I wouldn't opposed Runny talks and you know
what walks the marathon.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, absolutely, So it's just entertainment for just a second year.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Dobbins was thrown aside of the Broncos when he played
him in a in a home game here in Denver.
Obviously Denver have the comeback, but man, they really didn't
have an answer for him.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
And when he was healthy this year, man.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
He was.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
He was he of that offense there and was a
big help for Justin.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Herbert who didn't have really anybody besides Lad McConkey around him.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
So once again, right now, Zack, you can chime into
we're living in a land of hypotheticals here.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
So imagine bow Knicks in his second year and shot
Payton system with a tight end like Mike Koseki and
a running back like JK.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Dobbs.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Holler at me, hollo at me, somebody, they're better, all right?
Comes that I don't worry about that. I know where
it's a turning back there. Say something, man, I think JK.
Dobbins would be an upgrade on what they got.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
Don't get me wrong, but to use the saying that
a good friend of mine, Colem likes to use.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
That's like winning a taller than Danny de Vito contest.
You know, I think it's okay, did you win the contest,
or that you win the contest. I think you crush
the contest.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Maybe if you invest in some of the young backs
that don't have multiple lower body serious injuries.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's what the drafts. What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
What I'm saying, So why not going out and get
a betterman back, Like I mean, my first two choices
of the three, I would choose Kareem Hunt right, very
doable guy, very physical, And you can still go out
and get another younger.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Running back, because once again.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
It's about creating a stable of running backs that you
can deploy at any point in the season. Remember what
we think about what we're watching in these playoffs. We're
watching physical run play, a commitment to running the ball,
but also giving those running backs an opportunity to catch
the ball out of the backfield.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
That's what the game is.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
How about to that point about catching the ball out
the backfield on that option? How about Ty Johnson potentially
leaving the Bills this year his contracts up.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
He's been a great weapon for them.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You saw.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Did well? Was it a catch? I think we're still
trying to figure.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That out as real parks effort.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Exactly, so, Ty Johnson another opportunity.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But here was the name I brought up, but when
I wrote about it, But.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Thinking about the type of backs that Sean Payton has
been used to in his days with the Saints. Like
even though these backs that he's had in New Orleans
were big backs, think about how he used those backs.
Think about that, Yeah, in this season, tell me any
one of the Broncos backs that they deployed this season
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at any point where they use in a similar fashion
that we've seen in years pass in New Orleans duh.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I'd say maybe the only game we saw that was
against the Chiefs at Arrowhead with Estimate.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
They actually let that train. They kept going with that
train a little bit.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
And we didn't see a lot of Estimated down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Tvie.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, it was surprising, but once again it goes to
the refusal.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
To commit to the run game scheme needing to evolve.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I just don't know if he felt like he had
a guy. Do you have anybody else on.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Your list I had as far as tight ends, was
work concidered.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I had Hayden Hers. Yeah, I don't know if he
moves the needle.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
That's kind kind of a troutman ish well, you.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Know, but he's still in his time in the league,
is proven to be a good pass.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Catching tight end.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I'm looking for guys who has shown previously that they
can not willing, they can haul in passes.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
All right, Look, you second is number one.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
You aren't considering Naji Harris a running back.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
No, that was not Aaron Jones, who is.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
A little bit of a dynamic guy that does some
of the things that Sean Payton likes.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
He could be like an Alvin Kamara type guy. But
once again, you still need that physical presence that when
that lineback in that safety look across the field. They
have to know if this guy breaks the line of scrimmage,
he's going to be a long day for me. You
need one of those type of guys.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You do. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
I want to ask you this question too, because I
see this problem.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
There was also another name up short of Mason of
the forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I brought him up as an option.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Well he's restricted though, is he he's restricted? I know
he has a restricted A tag on him.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I'm looking at spot track right now and it says that,
oh yeah, yeah, he is RFA.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
See, even you choose the UFA option off spot track,
it gives you the UFAs and the rfix.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I mean, but but I thought about Jordan Mason too, because.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Once again hand side offense.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yes, of course, there's nothing wrong with having a stable.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yes, you want the pony express man. You want to run.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
You want to run teams off the field, both from
a speed standpoint but also from a power standpoint.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Well, let's get into the next debate here as it
pertains to running back, because this is this is going
on social media, Zach, I want your thoughts on.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
This as well.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
A lot of people are saying, Ashton genty at pick twenty,
your thoughts on drafting a running back in round one,
like this is where it's it's tough for me, gents,
is obviously a very very talented one. Why is it
tough for you because of the depreciation of the position after.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
A couple of years. Who was appreciating that position? Teams?
That's why why are they doing that?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Because they observe the most contact out of any position
in the sport, which and I don't agree with it,
but that's why you see a change into the guard.
You see all these running backs and rotating in and out,
like Derrick Henry is probably the only guy that could
be a little bit of a bell cow.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
But even then he's got Justice Hill behind him, say
Kuon Barkley.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Saquon, And then you get Kenneth Gainwell. Heck, Kenneth Gainwell
got hurt. And then you had Shipley come in and
Shipley's running off big run after big run like.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You just need.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I think you need a system and environment that is
going to allow running backs to thrive and grow, and
we haven't seen that in Sean Payton's first two years.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Here in Denver, Cody. It depends on how you use
that particular one.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I don't disagree, And I know the idea is that, well,
you can just go on and get any runner back
and they're going to be successful. And I know the
idea is because somewhat point to for their argument. Well,
look what Isaiah Potenko, right, I think Patako was drafted
in four to six round or something like that, and
look at what he's doing. And to me like, well,
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if you have massive talent around him like he has
in Kansas City, maybe you can roll the dice. But
when you don't have that, you might have go on
and get that guy.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, well, and certain traits can break out that maybe
you didn't necessarily account for.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Everyone looks at forty times.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I look at more so like change a direction three cone,
like can you change directions very quickly and efficiently? That's
what you look at a running back forty yard dashes
like all right, can you break away? Absolutely a lot
of running backs you're gonna have pretty solid forty yard
dash fetes. But to me, it's the change of direction.
It's being able to see like, hey is my vision
good stack? I want to get your thoughts on the
conversation about like drafting running backs in round one genty
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coming into it is pegged as a generational talent. What
he did at Bois State was absolutely impressive. How do
you feel about this because it is a debate right
now on social media.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I think if he falls to twenty, you do it.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
You know, this draft is low on special talents, and
I think Gent falls into that bucket. You know, generally speaking,
I don't like the idea of drafting. You know, the
five eight running back.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Early in the draft on the Broncos have some premium needs.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
This class is great at defensive tackle in the first round,
and you know they're I know, the defensive line was
good this year, but DJ Jones is leaving. The Broncos
could use a first round investment up front. But yeah,
but Tyler Warrens there, financial Gent, he's there, you know,
one of the.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Seven to eight special dudes in this draft.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
You know, I think of about Malachi Starts, the safety
out of Georgia too. This is a draft class where
I'm not going to care so much about positional value. Also,
especially when the Broncos have such a clean slate of
a roster, they could use reinforcements to just about every position. Whoever,
the best player on the board is there for him,
I take it. And if that's astron gent, which I
think there's a good chance it is. Absolutely, I think
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you could be such a catalyst for this offense too,
great line just it could catapulte me.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
I'm always in favor with the Broncos sitting at twenty.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You can always move back, trade up too.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Sometimes okay, well you're trading up if you straight up
for a player, I don't care, what does it and
he plays.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
He'd got to play right now.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Absolutely, other than that, move back, collect pick, stay in
the first round, and you still are able to get
more players to make your team better, even if it's not.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Ask some goods well, and we've seen the Broncos, at
least with George Payton Sean Payton, they always go they
have gone best player available, right, and they believe that
was bo Nicks. You haven't really seen them go out
there and draft based on necessarily need. I think they
addressed like if there's a major need for them, what
do they do.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
They go out and they make a move.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Freezy biggest need for them going into free agency last year,
with safety because of the departure justin Simmons, where they
did they go and get Brandon Jones, who man, we
talk about like there were a lot of questions in
trending camp because he didn't practice, he was injured. That dude,
Brandon Jones surprised me so much and he's got a
fantastic person out of that. I hope fans get to
see a little bit more of here going forward. But
I think that the Broncos will probably draft the best
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player available, and that could be Warren, it could be
genty And I had a lot of Broncos fans were
mad that they didn't draft brock Powers. But here's the deal,
Like as good as Warren is and and Loveland is
out of Michigan, there's only.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
One brock Bowers.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Brock Bowers is a unicorn and that production kind of
spoke for itself here. But you know, obviously, Broncos Country,
your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Are always appreciated.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
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Right here alongside Nick ferguson tonight, and uh, look, a
lot of conversation about what the Broncos' biggest needs are
of this offseason. I think if you pull the fan
base Broncos Country is gonna have a handful of different
suggestions that may be running back and maybe tight end.
Some have even said receiver, maybe linebacker. That's what we're
here to discuss here tonight. You want to get involved
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in the show here tonight, you can text us on
the Common Spirit of Health text line in five sixty
six nine zero, Nick, you want to talk about this area,
and we said we're gonna save it for this look
at the Broncos' biggest needs this offseason. I know we
talked about what the Broncos could learn from some of
these teams that are you know, made it deep into
the playoffs. Here, where are you at in terms of
if you had to pull it today, what is the
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biggest need that the Broncos have to address here this offseason?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Offense or defense? Offense?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
For me?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Tight end?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, I know obviously you would think that, oh, I'm
gonna say running back, that would be nice, But I'm
thinking tight end having.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And not just any tight end. Now, let's just say
the tight end is not a great inline blocker.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
All right, I'm not gonna hold that against him because
a lot of tight ends and in college football.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It ain't block anyway. So for me, my guy's Tyler Warren.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I if the Broncos could say, identify a guy, go
get a guy, I want them to get that guy.
But having a tight end that brings some physicality, and
you may want that physicality and inline blocking, but that
you don't necessarily need that. You just need a guy
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who is committed to just getting in the way. I
just want to make sure at the end of the
day that my guy did not make the tackle. But
the biggest thing is you need a guy who can
run routes, and you want him to run routes like
well wide receiver per se, because when you look at
bow Nick's ability to escape the pocket, either if it's
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in the interior or on the edges, you want to
make sure that you have a weapon that he can.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Dump the ball down to and he can run.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Through a couple of tackles and set you up for
another first down or hen gets you a touchdown, or
when the opposing defensive coordinator look at the scout on report.
He's gonna say, well, we have to make sure we
have to have hard edges to make sure that Bow
doesn't get out of the pocket. If he does, we
have to make sure we keep our eyes on this
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tight end because if we don't, he's a threat in
a vertical passing game, and he's a threat to take
short catches and take.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Them for explosive place.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
You want that type of guy in If the Broncos
had that type of guy, hell me, you or Zach
could play running back because guess what now the defense
has to respect the passing game and you're not gonna
have that many guys.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
In the box.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
So you're telling me at the NFL level, like I
gets seven yards?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes you can't. All right, I like it.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
I'll take you. What about Ryan Edwards?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Can you get?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
What?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Can he get seven yards?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I don't know. I don't know. I may, if you're
knock like, he may average about one point five. But
that's my guy.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
First of all, you have the question is does Ryan
love contact? That's the thing we have.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I know he can run, but I don't only if
he loves contact. So I can't run right now. I
mean you can run straight ahead? I can't.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, But if you need me to like run a
post corner post, I probably can't do.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
That right now.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I've got a way sale on my left knee.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Okay, that's not what I'm asking I'm asking you if
we if we, if we ran a lead iso, can
you go straight ahead?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Can you do that? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Then we can run lead option and I could I
could crack block the inside linebacker. I'll probably die through it.
I'll tell you what. There was a guy who I
played against. This guy in high school went to the NFL.
He played for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
He was drafted by the Jacksonville Jaggers.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Tyrone Holmes.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Okay, okay me, I'm five ten five, I'm a I'm
a slot receiver, I'm a corner, and we run a
play on offense called, you know, lead option.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
My job is to try to crack block him.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And he's six foot four and eighty five pounds.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I barely moved him. And I was the most excited
I've been in a while. I was like, I got
in his way though. We ran it. We ran a
twenty yard play off.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It went outside.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
I did my job. I moved him just a tiny bit,
and I was like, I was like, I felt good.
You go back and watched the film barely. I was like,
it felt better than it looks off him. Right, But
there is that I agree with.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You at the tight end position, right, because here I
am kind of SMA. I've talked about the need like
a running back. It'd be nice to have a guy
like Sakwuon, but there aren't guys like that. It's hard
to find guys like that. You look at the free
agency market. There's Aaron Jones.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
From the Minnesota Vikings, gonna be turning thirty one.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
You look at other guys, there's Najie Harris, which a
lot of people say, hey, Nage might be an option.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think Denver scheme has to evolve a little bit
to where you have more concepts, where you can pull
your guards to get to the next level. Right, your
tackles will block down your guards pulled out to kick
out the end guys, and then you know you might
have a full back lead there demmer one with a
lot of twelve to thirteen personal last year, like Nick.
It goes back to this, so Lucas Kroll, who didn't
really have a big role in the offense this year,
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led all tight ends in receptions with nineteen. Adam Troutman,
who was the primary guy who got a majority of
the reps of that position this year, had one hundred
and eighty eight yards receiving.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Now he and Nate Atkins, they all had.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Touchdowns this year, but the Broncos didn't get any production
from that position.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
So I'm with you, Tyler Warren.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
And right now, I think is the guy everyone in
Broncos country, Yes, fans, right, yeah, we want Warren. Obviously
there's leveland out of Michigan there's Gunner Helm out of Texas.
I think an underrated name to watch and obviously he's
turning hands right now at the Shrine Bowl. Is Iowa's
lucasche number eighty five and as we all know, Iowa
tight end. You think it's safe to say that in
the way that they produce it. You look at guys
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like little Fan, big body guy.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
You look at guys like Sam.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Laporta, George Kittle, those guys are producing. But you look
at the playoffs right now, who do the Chiefs have?
They have Travis Kelce didn't necessarily have a massive game
in terms of the numbers in yesterday's game here, but
you need a first down, Guess who Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Went to him?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Josh Allen tried to go to Kincaid or Knox didn't
necessarily work out. I can't remember which one had a
drop that was very key for them late in that game.
You look at Lamar, Yeah, King, Dalton, Kincaid, You look
at Lamar Jackson, You got Mark Andrews had that bad drop.
You have Isaiah likely who catches that clutch touchdown there
that would give them a chance to obviously beat Buffalo
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if they were able to convert the two point. And
then you look at other teams that are in the
playoff cycle right now, the detail lines, even though they're out,
they had Sam Laporta.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Like you have to have a good sight in here.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And as we all know it, I know going into
several meetings every single week as a player, and you
probably know this as well. As a safety, you're more
likely to go are the tight end and the inside
linebacker right in most cases, and in today's NFL out
of the two high show absolutely you're gonna be more
man coverage on tight ends than you are gonna get
an inside linebacker unless you have a guy who's really
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dynamic that can do that. Fred Warner is the guy
that can cover that. You know, the Broncos didn't have
the element in the pass game. You know for a
young quarterback like Bow next, Okay, Courtland Sudden is number
one guy. You look at Cortland and Bow's third down
numbers together, the efficiency and how teams are like, hey,
third down, we know who number ten is going to.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
He's going to number fourteen.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So towards the end of the year, you saw a
team's bracket cover Courtland with outside coverage where they play
bump and run and they have a safety over the
top and sometimes they would spy a linebacker inside the help.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
On any end breaking routes there.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
If you have a tight end that can at least
just be a guy like Okay, hey, my first rate's Courtland.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm going to Marvinn next.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Those guys are out there, Okay, I'm gonna dump it
off to my tight end.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I'm gonna at least get five or six yards, right Instead,
I'm forced to dump it off to my running back
and hope that he can get positive yards in that situation,
that was not a good enough element of the Broncos
offense this year. In my opinion, offensively agree with you.
I think tight end is more important right now than
running back.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
The reason why I chose tight end too, because in
the playoffs what we've seen when Baltimore played the Bills.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You think about Mark Andrews and how much he was
he was utilized.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Don't think about the mixed cues and the fomboos and
the drought ball.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Just just think about the idea.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Is the volume right because and I was telling Zach
this that when you when you think about that game
Baltimore against the Bills, tight end, that's what the ball
went in the tight situation went to the tight end.
And the game against Kansas City, I mean, Josh Allen
is falling backwards, there's a nickel, there's a corner blitz
from his right side, where's he throwing? The ball ends
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up in the hands of guess what who?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
The tight end.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
To me, the tight end is that safety net for
the quarterback. And all you have to do it's either
inside or outside. Run around, turn around, flash your numbers,
throw it to you. Now we're in second and five.
And if you're a big body guy and you are
physical to bring down, it makes it tougher on defenders.
Like I'm gonna go back to a play that you
were talking about when you say that, you know, when
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you block the linebacker, it seemed like it was a
little more vicious than what it really was. But guess what,
that guy didn't make the tackle. And at the end
of the day, that's what you want. I mean, the
blocks that you made, would you right for them to
be crushing blocks?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Absolutely? But do they have to be?
Speaker 5 (09:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Are you in the right position?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Are your feet and your shoulder square? Are you in
the right position to make sure that guy has to
run for you like you're taking the charge in basketball,
if that is the position, and even if it's not
a crushing hit.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
When the coach turns on the film, were.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Said, Okay, well, that particular play right there that outside
Thomas worked because Cody Wurke just got in his way.
He knew that the guy was much larger than he was.
But all we need you to do is get in
the guy's way. Yes, and you need a tight end
that understands that, but also a tight end that in
the tight situation, you could throw it to him and
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you know, just like Dallas gone him right in Philly.
I mean when they played the Packers, He's mushing dudes
in the face, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I mean that was that caused a lot of like
in the locker room. I mean that was just probably
miserable to be played back in.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That last film session of the year. I said, burn
that tape.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I mean that locker room after the Packers lost, Like
you know, when they clean out, not the post game.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
The post game is very quiet, solemn, but the clean
out that was nobody wanted to talk.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It was demoralizing.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Have you been in a situation, well, something happened to
you as a player that wasn't.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Too favorable that you might want everyone else to forget.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah, plenty, Okay, I've been mossed before it Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So yes it happened. And when that happens, man, that's
a hard peal to swallow.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
And but you want players offensively that can create that
type of atmosphere for the posing defenders because the game
is based on physicality and you need to have a
guy that can do that. But also bow needs more
reliable weapons. And if the Broncos had a tight end
like that, I think it would take Bow's game, it's
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a whole different level. And then also it would increase
the number of plays at any given moment that chan
Payne can call.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Well, It's why it kind of drives me a little
nuts of the conversations like you mentioned earlier about the
prop in today's world of social media, where people will
bring down one player up to prop up another. And
you see that a lot like Broncos fans doing that
with Jade Daniels and Commanders fans doing that with Bonnicks.
Stopped doing that, recognized that there's two really good young
quarterbacks right now. But like the thing that I'll mention here,
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here's what Jaden Daniels has that boon Knicks doesn't. Jaden
Daniels had a veteran security blank like Zach Ertz who
came up big for them late in the season in
the postseason, and they also had a little bit of
a dynamic run game. Not only could Jayden use his legs,
we had a combination of Eckler.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And Robinson.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Like you look at that and it's like, okay, now
you've got Terry McLaurin bow Knicks's number, one guy was
Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
By on large, right, everyone knew that bow Knicks.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Did not have anybody in the run game that could
take that pressure office back because.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
The Broncos offense with Javanta didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
It wasn't consistent enough.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
There was obviously the game against New Orleans he had
two rushing touchdowns, but Javant didn't even finish with five
hundred and fifty yards rushing this year. Bow Knicks in
a third of Denver's games this year was the leading rusher,
and more recently against the Buffalo Bills was the team's
leading rusher.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
So you give bow Knicks a.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Running back or a dynamic run game, you give him
a security blanket tight end, and I guarantee you this
Broncos offense is drastically better and they might actually have
a chance to compete. Even further, the fact that bow
Knicks was able to achieve what he did this year
without those things in his favor to become the second
of all time for passing touchdowns as a rookie for
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passing Baker Mayfield, being two behind Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That's impressive, But yet people want to tear bow down.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
I think what Jaden Damas has done and what Bonick
has done has been terrific. But I will say that
bow Knicks did more with less.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I would definitely agree with that.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
But with that frame of mind, something's got to give,
Something has to change, because think about the whether his
team actually elevated themselves over what the narratives were before
the season started. They surpassed what Vegas odds gave them
as far as winning five games during the season, and
they actually got into the playoffs. And you said, okay, well,
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look at the numbers that Bowl put up. What if
he had a tight end on his side to kind
of help him out in those situations.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Because when you look at the Eagles Commander's game, that
was Goddard at eighty five yards on seven receptions, and
you look at zach Ertz who led the Washington Commanders
eleven receptions one hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And four yards.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
See, the league is telling us something, all right. We
always talk about the quarterback. The league has showed us
something in these last games, and hopefully the Broncos pay
attention to it. You need to go out and grab
yourself in the lead tight end and that would make
things a lot easier for bow in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, and you need that, I mean, and you talk
about just building continuity. Look, Adam troupmhan is back on
the roster this year, Nate Adkins under contract.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
You have to figure out how to get more from
that room.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And Look, it may even be like let's say Nick,
they go on to get Warren from Penn State, right,
he immediately becomes from a receiving standpoint on paper, Right now,
theoretically the best pass catcher had that position for that
and you know, for a guy like Bow and I'll
go back to this even at Oregon when he had
Terrace Ferguson, who also could end up somehow in Denver. Look,
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it's all about the ties that bind and familiarity and
obviously Sean values a lot what Bo has to say. Right,
we'll talk a little bit about Ted Johnson, some Senior
Bowl measurements and things like that. But you have to
figure out how to address this position because I I
think you can.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Make an argument, yes.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
A run game.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I feel like in today's NFL offense, right, it's evolving.
You have to have a quarterback. Diver's got their guy,
they found him. You've got a good receiver. You've got
young receivers who are talented, who are still developing that
I think can do even more for you. We see
that with Troy Franklin. Marvin obviously has grown and has
developed quite a bit in the second half of the season.
Devon Vailey is kind of an under the radar guy
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that I.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Think is still developing.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But you still have to get better at that position.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Right in order for those guys to grow, you need
somebody else to take the pressure of them, right because
when teams bracket Courtland and they try to take him away, now.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
You're putting all the pressure on.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
These young guys to go up there and make place,
and certainly they're going to have to. But if you
have a tight end or even another option, even have
a strong run game, those guys are going to be
allowed to thrive in their position even more and get
those opportunities where maybe the pressure isn't as much on
them going forward. And obviously we can We're going to
continue to talk about how the Broncos can address that.
We'll look at some free agent names maybe the Broncos
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Speaker 2 (16:23):
Line at five to sixty six nine zero.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Continer on a conversation here about the Broncos' biggest needs.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
We're talking a little bit about the tight end position.
We'll get to another one here in a minute. A
couple of.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Free agent options, right, we've already talked about the draft.
To me, I look at a list of available free agents,
there are only a couple that stand out to me.
So for me, unless they're a game changing in a sense,
and the coaching staff and the scouting department they believe that,
I don't know if they're going to go the free
agency route.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
But here here's a couple of names here.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Obviously everyone's looking at Juwan Johnson because of his ties
with the New Orleans Saints. Cody Raeger, the VP of
Player Personnel, has familiarity with him. Pete Carmaker, who was
koshinaiir last year, has familiarity with him, and obviously I
think Sean Payton's got familiarity with him as well.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
That would be a name to watch.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
There another name that I think a lot of people
would be taking a look at, maybe Mike Mike Giseki.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Would he potentially come over.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
The Broncos know him very well, considering he had nearly
one hundred yards against them when they played the Cincinnati Bengals,
in which they had Jamar Chase te Higgins go for
over one hundred and then Gseki almost had one hundred himself.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
That was a rough game by the Broncos defense.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And then I've seen some people throw Tommy Tremble for
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I don't think he's gonna lead Carolina.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I think they want to try to keep some continuity
they were with Bryce Young.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I think they bring him back.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I just don't see the free agent route unless it's
one of those guys Juwan Johnson or Kiseki. At this point,
I know zach Ertz is going to be available. I
don't zach Ertz gonna keep playing. I don't see any
other names here as free agents that you know, really
move the needle from me.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Well, even though he was a little upset last night,
said he's not ready to retire, and I think right
now he may be willing to make a return back
to the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Why wouldn't Yeah, I mean, why wouldn'ty?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I mean he was a reliable weapon for Jayde Daniels
and once again, that Jayden Daniels quarterback tight end relationship
proved so important down the stretch and led to a
lot of those wins, those come from behind, those last
two minute drive type of wins for Jayde Daniels. But
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the whole idea of Mike Yoseki, he wasn't utilized as
well as he needed to be utilized in the Miami
Dolphins offense, even though you know when he was there
he did win some fantasy.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Games for me. Goes back to fantasy football.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
But that's a guy who was definitely will be a
free agent, a guy who the Broncos should definitely look
at to say, well, here's a guy who could make
life easier for our quarterback. And you decided the reason
why because you played against him. You saw what he
was able to do when you flexed him out and
Kasaki wasn't one of those inline blocking guys.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
But you don't need him to block in line. You
just stay.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Outside the numbers, you catch passes, and you just move
the sticks. But I mean, obviously we can't talk about
upgrades until we started talking about in a running back position.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
So you were mentioned before we.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Went to the break that there were some running backs
that you had tossed out there that Broncos country.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Was not too keen on. Who were those guys? Well,
there was one guy in particular.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
He's he's gotta you know, he's had some serious injuries
in his career, He's had some in college, but you
know he's coming off of an ACO's coming off of
broken foot. And I'm not saying that the Broncos should
go out and give him a three year contract or
a four year contract, a sat Quan like deal or
Derrick Henry like deal. Not saying that, but I'm saying
if you have a chance to get him maybe on
a one one year deal or a two year deal,
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you know where the second year is just you know,
got a team option on it, and if his medicals
check out with bowl Lowry who nick I don't know
if anyone's been attention to Broncos un Nathaniel Hackett and
the last regime, they were one of the most injured
teams they had, They had the most, the most injuries
by players where games were lost in terms of those players.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Not being able to play.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
They go from worse to first and Bowl Lowry's first year,
they were second this year in the NFL because of
the system that they've put in place under both with
the training staff and obviously the medical staff, the nutritionist.
I would take a one year flyer on a guy
like Nick Chubb here in Denver if his medicals checked out,
because if bow Lory says, hey, we're good with it,
that's all I.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Need to know. Bow has shown that he knows.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I mean, let me let me marinatea on that one
for just a second, because obviously I like Nick Chubb
and the way he runs and how tough he is.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Now the only problem with.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
That is that and I'm sure that you got to
push back from Broncos country because Javante was great in
his rookie year. He got injured and everyone and we
know how injury works, especially to lord extremity. You're not
the same player, because maybe you lose a little explosure,
to lose a little power. Now, does that mean that
you were incapable of doing your job?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
No, it doesn't. But for in the minds of other people's.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Like, oh, well, he's not the same anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Well, let me cut into your body.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Mack is uninjured exact this level.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Like if you if you play this game, the injuries
are a part of it.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
But but I listened to what you said. I just
wanted to elevate the conversation just a little more. So
I'm gonna give you a couple of guys, and I'm
gonna let you think about it, as I said, and
you give me to your retort. I'm gonna start from
the bottom and work my way up to the top.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Right, okay, AJ Dillon.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Mozilla, Yeah, all right, Broncos saw he actually got hurt
this year in the Broncos joint training camp practice.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
It ended up putting him out for the rest of
the year.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Hmm. Well, but let's not talk about the injury.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
No, no, no, But he's he's big. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
So when we think about Sean Payton, and I think
about guys that I played against when Sean was coaching
mccows right, big guy, but he was excellent at catching
the ball out of the backup. But if you want
one of those grind him out guys. From a size standpoint,
I was thinking aj Dillon. So, but my next guy
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is Kareem Hunt. I like how he runs.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Yeah, he ros be a popular pick in the eyes
of Broncos country.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
But what are we talking about? Were talking about football, right? Yeah?
Are we trying to win? Yeah? Well, look, if we're
trying to win, we're trying to get some of the
best players.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Isaiah Pacheco went out. He carried the load for that offense. Absolutely.
There was like one game he had twenty nine carries
in the game, over one hundred yards rushing.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Now I don't I've never been in the mind of
Sean Payton. But let me see if I can get
in the mind of Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Right now, if you were to get these.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Next two guys, and here's the reason I'm choosing these
next two guys. When you look at your do everything guy,
we're not looking just at carries.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
We're looking at touches.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Right, because we're running inside zone, we running outside zone,
we're running traps, running those types of you know gap scheme.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Well, we're also throwing it to you in the screen
game and.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Also we're throwing it to you flexing you out to
run those routes.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
So Kareem Hunt can definitely do that. And he's physical.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah right, he's he's always falling forward and he rarely fumbles.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Right, yeah, that's true. Right now, he's my next guy. JK. Dobbins.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Oh do you think he's gonna leave Harborball?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'm just here.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I mean, I wouldn't be imposed.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Hey, hey, I wouldn't opposed Runny talks and you know
what walks the marathon.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, absolutely, So it's just entertainment for just a second year.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Dobbins was thrown aside of the Broncos when he played
him in a in a home game here in Denver.
Obviously Denver have the comeback, but man, they really didn't
have an answer for him.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
And when he was healthy this year, man.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
He was.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
He was he of that offense there and was a
big help for Justin.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Herbert who didn't have really anybody besides Lad McConkey around him.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
So once again, right now, Zack, you can chime into
we're living in a land of hypotheticals here.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
So imagine bow Knicks in his second year and shot
Payton system with a tight end like Mike Koseki and
a running back like JK.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Dobbs.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Holler at me, hollo at me, somebody, they're better, all right?
Comes that I don't worry about that. I know where
it's a turning back there. Say something, man, I think JK.
Dobbins would be an upgrade on what they got.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
Don't get me wrong, but to use the saying that
a good friend of mine, Colem likes to use.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
That's like winning a taller than Danny de Vito contest.
You know, I think it's okay, did you win the contest,
or that you win the contest. I think you crush
the contest.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Maybe if you invest in some of the young backs
that don't have multiple lower body serious injuries.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's what the drafts. What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
What I'm saying, So why not going out and get
a betterman back, Like I mean, my first two choices
of the three, I would choose Kareem Hunt right, very
doable guy, very physical, And you can still go out
and get another younger.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Running back, because once again.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
It's about creating a stable of running backs that you
can deploy at any point in the season. Remember what
we think about what we're watching in these playoffs. We're
watching physical run play, a commitment to running the ball,
but also giving those running backs an opportunity to catch
the ball out of the backfield.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
That's what the game is.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
How about to that point about catching the ball out
the backfield on that option? How about Ty Johnson potentially
leaving the Bills this year his contracts up.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
He's been a great weapon for them.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You saw.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Did well? Was it a catch? I think we're still
trying to figure.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That out as real parks effort.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Exactly, so, Ty Johnson another opportunity.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But here was the name I brought up, but when
I wrote about it, But.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Thinking about the type of backs that Sean Payton has
been used to in his days with the Saints. Like
even though these backs that he's had in New Orleans
were big backs, think about how he used those backs.
Think about that, Yeah, in this season, tell me any
one of the Broncos backs that they deployed this season
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at any point where they use in a similar fashion
that we've seen in years pass in New Orleans duh.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I'd say maybe the only game we saw that was
against the Chiefs at Arrowhead with Estimate.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
They actually let that train. They kept going with that
train a little bit.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
And we didn't see a lot of Estimated down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Tvie.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, it was surprising, but once again it goes to
the refusal.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
To commit to the run game scheme needing to evolve.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I just don't know if he felt like he had
a guy. Do you have anybody else on.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Your list I had as far as tight ends, was
work concidered.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I had Hayden Hers. Yeah, I don't know if he
moves the needle.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
That's kind kind of a troutman ish well, you.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Know, but he's still in his time in the league,
is proven to be a good pass.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Catching tight end.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I'm looking for guys who has shown previously that they
can not willing, they can haul in passes.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
All right, Look, you second is number one.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
You aren't considering Naji Harris a running back.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
No, that was not Aaron Jones, who is.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
A little bit of a dynamic guy that does some
of the things that Sean Payton likes.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
He could be like an Alvin Kamara type guy. But
once again, you still need that physical presence that when
that lineback in that safety look across the field. They
have to know if this guy breaks the line of scrimmage,
he's going to be a long day for me. You
need one of those type of guys.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You do. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
I want to ask you this question too, because I
see this problem.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
There was also another name up short of Mason of
the forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I brought him up as an option.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Well he's restricted though, is he he's restricted? I know
he has a restricted A tag on him.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I'm looking at spot track right now and it says that,
oh yeah, yeah, he is RFA.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
See, even you choose the UFA option off spot track,
it gives you the UFAs and the rfix.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I mean, but but I thought about Jordan Mason too, because.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Once again hand side offense.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yes, of course, there's nothing wrong with having a stable.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yes, you want the pony express man. You want to run.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
You want to run teams off the field, both from
a speed standpoint but also from a power standpoint.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Well, let's get into the next debate here as it
pertains to running back, because this is this is going
on social media, Zach, I want your thoughts on.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
This as well.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
A lot of people are saying, Ashton genty at pick twenty,
your thoughts on drafting a running back in round one,
like this is where it's it's tough for me, gents,
is obviously a very very talented one. Why is it
tough for you because of the depreciation of the position after.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
A couple of years. Who was appreciating that position? Teams?
That's why why are they doing that?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Because they observe the most contact out of any position
in the sport, which and I don't agree with it,
but that's why you see a change into the guard.
You see all these running backs and rotating in and out,
like Derrick Henry is probably the only guy that could
be a little bit of a bell cow.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
But even then he's got Justice Hill behind him, say
Kuon Barkley.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Saquon, And then you get Kenneth Gainwell. Heck, Kenneth Gainwell
got hurt. And then you had Shipley come in and
Shipley's running off big run after big run like.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You just need.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I think you need a system and environment that is
going to allow running backs to thrive and grow, and
we haven't seen that in Sean Payton's first two years.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Here in Denver, Cody. It depends on how you use
that particular one.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I don't disagree, And I know the idea is that, well,
you can just go on and get any runner back
and they're going to be successful. And I know the
idea is because somewhat point to for their argument. Well,
look what Isaiah Potenko, right, I think Patako was drafted
in four to six round or something like that, and
look at what he's doing. And to me like, well,
(30:00):
if you have massive talent around him like he has
in Kansas City, maybe you can roll the dice. But
when you don't have that, you might have go on
and get that guy.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, well, and certain traits can break out that maybe
you didn't necessarily account for.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Everyone looks at forty times.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I look at more so like change a direction three cone,
like can you change directions very quickly and efficiently? That's
what you look at a running back forty yard dashes
like all right, can you break away? Absolutely a lot
of running backs you're gonna have pretty solid forty yard
dash fetes. But to me, it's the change of direction.
It's being able to see like, hey is my vision
good stack? I want to get your thoughts on the
conversation about like drafting running backs in round one genty
(30:37):
coming into it is pegged as a generational talent. What
he did at Bois State was absolutely impressive. How do
you feel about this because it is a debate right
now on social media.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I think if he falls to twenty, you do it.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
You know, this draft is low on special talents, and
I think Gent falls into that bucket. You know, generally speaking,
I don't like the idea of drafting. You know, the
five eight running back.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Early in the draft on the Broncos have some premium needs.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
This class is great at defensive tackle in the first round,
and you know they're I know, the defensive line was
good this year, but DJ Jones is leaving. The Broncos
could use a first round investment up front. But yeah,
but Tyler Warrens there, financial Gent, he's there, you know,
one of the.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Seven to eight special dudes in this draft.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
You know, I think of about Malachi Starts, the safety
out of Georgia too. This is a draft class where
I'm not going to care so much about positional value. Also,
especially when the Broncos have such a clean slate of
a roster, they could use reinforcements to just about every position. Whoever,
the best player on the board is there for him,
I take it. And if that's astron gent, which I
think there's a good chance it is. Absolutely, I think
(31:42):
you could be such a catalyst for this offense too,
great line just it could catapulte me.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
I'm always in favor with the Broncos sitting at twenty.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You can always move back, trade up too.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Sometimes okay, well you're trading up if you straight up
for a player, I don't care, what does it and
he plays.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
He'd got to play right now.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Absolutely, other than that, move back, collect pick, stay in
the first round, and you still are able to get
more players to make your team better, even if it's not.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Ask some goods well, and we've seen the Broncos, at
least with George Payton Sean Payton, they always go they
have gone best player available, right, and they believe that
was bo Nicks. You haven't really seen them go out
there and draft based on necessarily need. I think they
addressed like if there's a major need for them, what
do they do.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
They go out and they make a move.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Freezy biggest need for them going into free agency last year,
with safety because of the departure justin Simmons, where they
did they go and get Brandon Jones, who man, we
talk about like there were a lot of questions in
trending camp because he didn't practice, he was injured. That dude,
Brandon Jones surprised me so much and he's got a
fantastic person out of that. I hope fans get to
see a little bit more of here going forward. But
I think that the Broncos will probably draft the best
(32:50):
player available, and that could be Warren, it could be
genty And I had a lot of Broncos fans were
mad that they didn't draft brock Powers. But here's the deal,
Like as good as Warren is and and Loveland is
out of Michigan, there's only.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
One brock Bowers.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Brock Bowers is a unicorn and that production kind of
spoke for itself here. But you know, obviously, Broncos Country,
your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Are always appreciated.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
To make sure you text in the common spirit of health.
Text line here five sixty six nine zero on Broncos Country. Tonight,
we're gonna take a little bit of a look here.
Championship Weekend was here AFC Championship, NFC Championship, You're gonna
get Nick and I thoughts on this on Broncos Country
Tonight on KOA eight fifty am and ninety four one
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