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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Folks, do what you listen do.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
The reason I brought it up I told you about
the gym I go to right, yes, you know, you
wake up five point fifteen to morning. Our trainer man,
he we we have a lot of lot of hip
hop and it's legit.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I love it. But it's like there's sixty five.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Seven year old people in there that are doing this
class and it's like, I have no idea. We're listening
to t I, Gucci Mane or listening to the game
Biggie and they're just sitting there looking around and they're
like wondering what what's going on. So I was like,
you know, what's in your workout playlist? I have to
listen to, like something upbeat and heavy that just makes
me want to, you know, run through a wall.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Okay, well for me, it's about the come down from
your workout.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh so you listen after you work out?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Did you just you know, during your workout?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I do. But after my workout, he's just kind of like, calm.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Now, Okay, we're listening to We're about to learn a
lot about Nick Ferguson here, folks.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
All right, so I'm listening to Mufford and Son you heard, no,
I haven't.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I'll play it for you, okay, all right, so let
me give you just a couple.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
So I listened to R E. M.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I don't know that is fight what. I don't know
how that is? Ari em No? Okay, Well is that
aging myself or something?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I don't think it's aging yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But I mean everyone has a very unique listening ear right,
So you haven't.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Listened to ari M. And I'm sure Grant is going
to do you a solid and help.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You out imagine. So one, I love classics.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yes, now the yeah yeah yeahs right, Well, why did
your eyebrows this percussion?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah? I mean they had this. I mean, look, they
had a song called maps. But but but they have
a lot of other songs.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I think one of the songs, oh, I can't remember
the title of it. It was just used in Agatha
h from Amarll on Netflix. I believe No No, No No
on Disney. On Disney they used one of one of
one of the group's songs. But my list is a
little different from yours.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Cody like this is that there's some barely.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Eilish in mind.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yes, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I don't think that there are not too many people
who would think that I would be listening to these
types of things.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Tip Timple of the Dog.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You got that one, you got that one? Hut, I
got that one.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That was on a road trip playlist and we drove
from we drove from here to New York this summer,
and so we had a long playlist that was on there.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So so yeah, yeah, yeah, it's had a song called
heads Will Roll, great, great, great song, and it was
big back in the day, but because of the the
Agatha series on Disney, it just kind of, you know,
PopEd backup, just like with Stranger Things.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And it's kind of funny that.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
My kids tasting music comes from watching like movies. They're
really into these screen movies, but Marvel movies is where
they get a lot of their I guess, introduction into
certain things. Yes, And sometimes it's weird because usually when
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you and your kids are listening to the same thing,
they look at you like, well, I can't listen to
that again because you're not cool. But sometimes my kids
will listen to things and they'll go, oh, how do
you know that? And I'll go like, how do you
know that? So it's kind of that thing. But yes,
we have very different, very different ways that we listen
(03:42):
to music. And I thought it was rather funny that
you listening to Gushi.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Man, hey man, I need hip hop to get me going.
Like it's either that a Metallica. Okay, we got a
text or says an act that was a fun show.
What's heavy that gets you guys going? And then he
says Nick my man Temple of the Dog. Yes, what's
heavy to get you going? I mean you mentioned the
game in the break. I listened to the game a lot.
I tend like if I'm driving, I'm listening to stuff,
I tend to speed.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It's not a good, not a good.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Not to do that, Cody.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I think it's everybody. I'm just like, you know, mapped up.
I'm ready to go. You know, if I'm up at four.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
O'clock in the morning for a five o'clock class, I
got to bring it and our trainer does. But I
just I want you to come to a class just
so you could see the expression on some of the
some of the people who are like older people's places seventies.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, we're listening to some of the music that we're
listening to it. It always gets me.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I know what song will kind of calm you down
and your drive to the gym. I'm not saying it's
gonna get you in the right frame of mind, but
it's gonna slow down your your led foot.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
What is it? A thousand miles of Vanessa Cault?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
No, I can't do that.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I watched it into the studio the other day before
the show, and Nick was just sitting on as if
I was watching the music video.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Listen to the song.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
If you really needed to calm down, didn't you.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
No, it wasn't the thing that I needed to calm down.
But he just you know, you had one of those
moments where you're like, you know what I had. I
have been listening to this song in a long time,
So you want to put it on.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Like av the d song?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh yeah, what did we play the other time I'm
with you?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah? So I'm sitting here on my fiance.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes, because once again I know based on my skin complexion,
totally honest, these don't sound like songs I'm supposed to
be listening to.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Like Terry Crews and White Chicks.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yes, that was always one of my nightmares as a player.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I'll be driving here in Denver, Colorado blasting that and
somebody pull up next to me and they kind of
look at me like, what's.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Happening with this?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And I have to kind of switch really quickly to
a red song as soon as they pull off, go right.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Back to it.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Someone video eating you on Instagram live listening to do
Messa Carlton.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yes, but luckily we didn't have that type of social media.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Thank goodness, man, we have my Space.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Back in the day. Oh John, my Space.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You weren't on my Space, nope, man missed out. Oh
that's where Avril Levine was on my cover page. Complicated. Yeah,
remember the music? They really did it? Thank you Tom.
Shout out to Tom wherever he is in today's world.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Man, but you should Vanessa Carlton was kind of slow
you down.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yes see. I don't like slowing down after a workout.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Like, if anything, while you're driving it because you said
you had Oh no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
No, I get amped up though. You know what, I
can't like me and my skin complexion.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The one music that I actually feel like I absolutely
can and need to listen to in the gym, Megan
the Stallion.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sexy Bread lorilla stuff that I want.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Like, I'm telling you, this seemed like a look like
freaking Friday.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The turntables turned.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Did you guys have swap bodies for a second?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And Saint Louis hip hop is actually pretty good, you know,
But I gotta think my fiance for that, cause she
listens to it and I'm like, okay, I'm not like
choosing to and I'm like, oh, just actually answer me up.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
She says that's her getting ready music, when she's getting
ready to go, like.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Go do stuff. That's what I'm like, all right, you.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Know what I haven't. I haven't met your fiance yet
at some point I hope I do. But she sounds
cool as hell.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Oh yeah, she went to a I mean she's smart.
I kicked my coverage.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I mean, you know we always out kicked our coverage, man,
But I mean she went, she when she went to school.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Philly and all that, so she you know, she's very.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
That's what I'm talking about. Even though we still got
the Freaky Friday. I don't know what happened. No, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It took a turn there, but werena get back. We
can get back to something.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Let's see here.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
We we got a text from a listener says, you're
listening to Meryl Bainbridge nick Amazing Boys, highly underrated.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
No, Meryl Bainbridge, Bainbridge, what what to get you connected
to that?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Well, let me pull up my fancy phone here.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh my, you know what I actually do listen to, Like.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Sometimes I have to listen to music to sleep, but
I won't listen to like actual music.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'll listen to like low five sounds or even.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
If you talk about like the noise like when they
go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
No, no, no, I mean you could play for the baby.
We'll see. Let's see here.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I've got a song free Cody It Marris Vanessa Carlton
and hip Hop who I Smoke by Young and Ace.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
It's hip hop so not safe for work, all right,
I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
To see what that was gonna be.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I'm listening to that on the way home. We've all
been bumping back with that then tonight. Man, I'm not
trying to get fired at all. I will say this though,
man like, I definitely like being amped up.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
If I if I'm getting ready to do something, I
gotta be I got.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
To be in the zone, man Like, I always listen to.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
My pregame playlist was always either jay Z's The Black
Album Okay uh, I mean so many good songs on
there or j Cole.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
J Cole was like my senior year.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Jake Cole was really kind of big right the Friday
Night Lights mixtape. Yeah, uh Cole World's Sidelines. I love it,
Like that's what got me going, But yeah it was.
It was Metallica or jay Z primarily for music.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Kid, what would did you like? Do you ever listen
to anything pre game?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I know Kareem Jackson's favorite song, and that's what I
actually listened to all the time as well before every game.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Oh you know, I would listen to Metallica.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Sam Man answer, sam Man. We used to run out
to that in high school.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, get me going, But once I got back to
the locker room after warming.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Up, I needed to somewhat calm back down again.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yes, because then.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
It's yeah because my song and it's kind of wild
that it happened this way, was Michael Jackson You rock
My World?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Interesting?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yes, and it doesn't seem like one of those songs
that get you fired up or even calm you down.
But for me mentally, that got me into the right
space because I was constantly going over the plays in
my mind, trying to visualize, Okay, if it's I want
to coverage or whatever, how am I going to react
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to these types of combo routes. And with that visualization,
it helped me because if we got on the field
right and that play was called and I see the
lineup and I'm thinking like, okay, well here comes the play.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Almost like a radio dial, it turns on in my head.
Oh no, yes it does. And it was so bad
that once it turns on and couldn't turn it off.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
My DV coach he was.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
He was big in the Wu Tang and so we
always had a lot of Killer Bee references in our
dB room, like well, like as far as breakdown analysis,
breakdowns and you know, just like terminology or even just
you know, some different things pregame. He'll get us fired up, man,
I tell you, you know, you got it up with
the moon Shine, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, so there's a lot of good stuff in there.
I'm with you, though. It shout out to DJ Squezy Tailor.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I take it, you know, game day. He does a
really good job. Broncos Country gets them all fired up. No,
gets some players fired up.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Another one.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I'll say one of my favorite songs we've played in
the gym every morning. Some people look around like, wait
a minute, Knuck if you Buck Nucky. That's my favorite.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I think when I was playing one of our special teams,
coaches actually put that in the video, you know, like
this Saturday night before you're getting ready.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, you're getting ready and.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
They're showing highlights because all of it was done to
kind of get guys in that mode of trying to
play and visualizing once again. So it doesn't make a
difference if you brought me, if you like knuck if
you Buck, or if it's a Shania Twain, you know whatever,
force your boat.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
A game with Shanaia Twain. I don't know if that's
the thing, but well I can tell you this now.
Telling Swift's Bad Blood. Yeah, a little little energy to it,
you know.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I listen to listen to it when I'm going into
a situation that.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I need to be fired up. Yeah, I know it
doesn't sound that way, but I'm telling you a lot
about myself.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Cody right now, I loved that, bron Those Country loves
that too. It's a different side, like people get to
know us a little bit more, like people see me
on social media. I'm usually just like bild manner. But no,
I got a snarky site to me, which I don't
like bringing.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I don't like being a snarky, but I'm very very
laid back with it. Now, you mentioned something too, like
those specially those.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Meetings with their coach the day before, right, and they
showed the video presentation. Our coach one time showed us, uh,
you know this one clip and there was something they
showed us when those like Baltimoreans like uh, death on
wings or something like that.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That was a good one. But then we put together
a compilation too.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And my coach was a he was a history teacher,
so you know, he's bringing up all these different analogies
in his speech and it's getting us fired up. But
then he ended it with el elkooj's's time for.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
War, and I was like, all right, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
No with us talking about sports and things that kind
of get us going.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Do you remember any in any given someday remember the
speech that excuse me, Albucino.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Al Pacino gave that speech. I'm sitting in the theater
and he's given that.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
That speech, and dude come fired up almost like it's
Mike Saidahan.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And apparently he shadowed Mike Shanahan for that, because.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I can see in it now that you mentioned that,
reflecting on a movie, I can see a little Mike
Shanahan in the character. But for me growing up in Miami,
I thought that was more or less Don Shula going
through that scenario with you know, then quarterback Dan Marino.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Right, But that movie kind of really got me.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Gone based on that that speech, and I used to
listen to that speech driving to the Investigo field, getting
me ready. So by the time I hit that turn
I come into the parking lot, my mind was all
greased up.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I was ready to go.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Now, I would say too, I would say, like I
twenty five. You ever get stuck in traffic when you're
in't knowe that fired up mood trying to get to
the game. That would be terrible. I don't know how
I would manage with that as a player.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well, it freaked me the heck out.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Because one time I got held up in traffic hyperactive yeah,
because now I'm like, are the cars going to move fast?
Enough and I'm looking at my watch, Am I gonna
be late? Because I already had a mental time set
for myself and really quickly I had well I have
not had. I still have them like ocds, And that
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was part of the whole OCD with me being there
at a certain time.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I had to be at hit the parking lot at
a certain time. Walking through my uniform had to be
a certain way.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I would put one sock on before the other. I
would have go through all these kind of rituules. And
if something didn't happen the way that it should happen,
it threw me off. Oh mentally, I'm throwing off.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, And I think that's a common thing to do it.
Players have specific routines that they do.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I was the same exact way, right and very much
with you, like I had to do the same exact
things the way I did every single game.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
The one time we had a weather delay, right.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
We had storm, lightning and all that, we were off
so we had to rush through warmups, I didn't get
to do my routine and guess what happened, so on
my aco that was it. The one time I didn't
follow it tore the ACL That's where that's where we
were at.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But that's just one of those things. Man, I think
we get a lot of a you know, good connection
off that.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I know there are so many people out there listening
that feel the same exact way that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
They've been in those situations though. But we had a
lot of talk about still obviously you know on.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Broncos Country tonight, and obviously old school versus new school
ideology and taking a level of coaching and the game itself.
You get all that action here Broncos Country down on
Kait eight fifty am ninety for one FM.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
This is it, this is this is my thing. My man,
Grant coming and clutch here.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
But it always comes through man. He always knows exactly
what the play to kind of fit the mood. So
also too, you gotta be careful what you say because
Grant will record it and play it back for you.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Oh yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know. I used to have a producer on the show.
I used to used to do the same thing. We
have some really nice uh sound bites. There was like
one for like, you know, Taylor Swifts. You know it's like, Hi,
it's me, I'm the problem I made, but I was
you know I was on a show was saying like,
I'm the talent and they use that and it went, Hi,
it's me, and it goes, I'm the talent, it's me,
super producer.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
He's a good quality work. Yeah, fantastic. I mean he
has sound bites.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I was like, wow, I never thought of that there,
But uh, kind of speak with the old school narrative,
We're gonna talk a little bit about, like you know
this in the NFL, Like there's old school ideologies that
you see a lot of people talk about, and then
there's new school ideologies with where the game is heading.
And I feel like this is a good conversation to
kind of get into because not only does this apply
to the game itself, it applies to coaching, it applies
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to players themselves, like how have things shifted a little
bit here? And so what are some of the ideologies
you're looking at here?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Old school?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
New school Also coaches based on how they came up
through the coaching ranks. They may be tied to certain philosophies,
certain ideology, things that they would normally do, from how
they coached on the field to standing.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
In front of the players in front of the room.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Delivering the message teaching, and then there's kind of a
new school approach.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Obviously some of the old school coaches.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
They came up, you know, and grinding, and it was
kind of grimy, right, and there was not a lot
of bat.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Of boys and pats on the bat nah, right.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
So it's like, you get out there, you get it done,
and if you're not doing it effectively the way they
wanted to, there's some very spirited words.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
That sometimes are used.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Sometimes now the new approach may be a little more
calmer or relax and some may not gel with that
because when you are around your team, you have to
understand who your players are. And Bill Parcells once told
me that that's the key part of being a coach,
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understanding your players and understanding like, you may have fifty
seven players, you can't give them the same speech. One
guy you may have to pull aside and figure out
exactly what motivates him and use those twos to motivate him.
I don't want to say in a very feel for
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a threatening way, but you know your job is on
the line.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Yeah, other guys you don't really have to.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
But that's kind of some of the philosophies.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
That you kind of run into well.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And sometimes that can also create a culture where it's
like you're scared to make a mistake, which can either
bring out the best in you or it can make
you completely fall apart. Right, depends on, you know, the
makeup of that player, what they've been through. I know,
for me, growing up, I have some interesting coaches.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I had a.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Combination of old school coaches and I also had a
combination of coaches who had a little bit of both
to them, right, some old school with some new school approach,
And that impacted me certainly.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
When I became a coach, you.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Know, I had to figure out, like what did I
go through as a player that I knew I didn't
respond well to, you know when it came to a coach,
And how does how do my players do that?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Now?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I've been in the moments.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I've had moments where you know, you get your face
mask grabbed, you get you know, the chew.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Spit in your face.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh you know, nothing like that, yeah, man, But to
your point though about that in terms of the message
to the locker room, right, this is where I find
coaches even like like Sean Payn's from the Bill Parcells
treat right, and Bill Parcells was intense. As Ever, how
Sean gives his messages in speed in the locker room,
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right or in a team meeting is going to be
very interesting, right, because you have your overall general arching
message to your team.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But then it's like, do you up pulled that message?
When you're on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Everyone pays attention to that, right, and the sideline turns
us all into something different.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Right, That's the element.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So for me, I always looked at that like with
my coaches, Okay, how are these guys on the sideline?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Coaches not like this in the locker room with us,
like coaches laid back. You know, he's honest, and then
this is like, oh now he's scared to make a mistake.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I've got I've gotten reamed, I've gott shoot out. That's
part of it, and I don't mind that. But I
also learned, like when I was going to be a coach,
I'm not just going to be that guy all the time, right.
I know when to turn it on, I know when
to be intense and to really get my message across,
but I'm going to do it in a constructive way.
That's guy, I think kind of how the game has
shifted a little bit, and I think for Sean, being
as old school as he is, I think he's got
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a perfect blend of young coaches on a staff who
can kind of play that good cop role which he
wants him to.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Well.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
For me, it's good that you said the word shift
because the first thing they came to mind was like
a stick shift.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And if you ever driven a stick shift, you have
to no, you never no.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Okay, So like with a stick shift, everything has to
flow within like a sort of a rhythm, so you
don't jam up the car, but you're shifting gears, you
down shift, doing all of those things.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
And for me, that's how coaching is. I understand.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Once you get out on the field, there's so many
things that you have to worry about if you're a coach,
especially if you're a coordinator, and you can't worry about
the small nuances of what's going on on the sideline
and this play. This is where you rely on your
staff to bring that information to you, and sometimes it
does get a little heated because you're very competitive.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
You want to win.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
And when you have gone through something in practice, you've
taken your players through it, you've walked through it, and
you watch them go on the field.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
And they don't execute.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
He's like, well, you did a great job on that
during the week, but for some reason, when we get
in the game and lia bullets are flying, everything is
not clicking for you. So it is about five finding
the adequate way to carry forth your message. Still know
it's competitive, be intense, but know when to downshift if
you will. Now here's the other thing when you talk
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about old school versus new school, that we've seen changes
not only in philosophies, but in technology. And when I
think about the technological chance changes, I think about when
I was in San Francisco and they were using VR
technology and Nick Mullins was constantly in the room going
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through the plays because in practice he didn't get a
lot of those reps.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Jimmy Garoppolo was getting a lot of those reps. So
if this was a way for him to.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Put himself in game time mode where he can make
mistakes and then go back over them and then make
sure he doesn't make the mistakes again, but also limit
the amount of body contact and wear down. And I
thought about Jane Daniels in his development, like they had
the VR technology at LSU when he went to Washington.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
That was something that he was like, no, I need this,
and knowing the idea that he sped it up a
little exact.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So it helped him and his development because when you
first come into any sport for the first time, you're
going to be like a baby lamb that was just born.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
You just all over the place.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
But he gets to a point in a game of
football where things start to slow down, and if you
can get your players coding they're faster, then later.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah, you see more success.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I wonder if he's using Ted Sunquist's technology, because Ted
Ted's got a VR company.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, VR football company he's been latching.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I don't think I think what they.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Were using at LSU, if I'm not mistaken, I think
it was from a German company.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, and this is going to only be accelerated with
you know, people are like, oh, there's value that's going
to expand even further.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Right now, now consider this now, when that technology first
came out, when Ted Sunkist was doing it, people are like, nah,
we don't we don't need that whatever. But the VR technology,
I think at LSU, I think that was about two
million dollars for the whole setup. So now the NFL
is a copycat league, which we know and more teams
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that are going to start to doing the same thing. Now,
let me take you back for just a second and
show you old I mean old school versus new school.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
But Vic Fangio was here as a head coach of
the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Riz Gangarello came from San Francisco, tried to implement the
VR technology for Drew Locke yep, and that fell off
because Pick was like, hell, no, I'm an old school coach.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I don't I don't do those types of things. But
for those types of coaches, it's not about you.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, it's about your players.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's about your players.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
That's that's tough too.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
And I know Brett Rippin love that love what Skangs
was doing with that, even told me he was using
that when he was here. But yeah, I mean, it's
just it's not about what you know, it's about what
you can teach. It's about, Okay, how do your players
best learn right in today's world, in today's game, you
have to have a little bit of that middle ground.
Like of course, like you look at the experienced coaches,
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the old school thought, right, like the one track mind
is this is how we've always done it, this is
how we're always going to do it, with no room
to grow. That fixed mindset can be negative for you sometimes, right,
because then as a coach sometimes you have a hard
time getting out of your own way. And certainly there
have been coaches we've seen that had certainly happened to
around the league, and certainly those guys don't have jobs anymore.
I'm sure there's some situations some coaching areas where there
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are some coaches in today's game that also still operate
with that fixed mindset. But then you look at coaches
who've embraced the growth mindset aspect of it, like Sean McVay,
I think is one of the great examples. I think
Lafleur in Green Bay is a great example of that.
When you were talking about old school and new school
and you were bringing up some of the things. I
couldn't help a thing about a conversation we were.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Having the other night with Dove All. I cannot that's
been on my feet a few times.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It's like, so far in the last couple of days,
that's the most cringe worthy thing that I've heard in
a while. And just the way, did you see how
he was like moving his eyes when he said it?
That to me, I think is what made it worse.
Oh man, that is what kind of coach is he
going to be? Is he gonna be old school or
new school?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Dude? I really don't know. It's as a coach does
a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Of things that you're asked to do, dude, and you
have to be able to go into that room and
command those guys that you're talking to.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
See, my man, Liam, he listens to Vanessa Carlton for sure.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
What did you tyn to say? I'm saying? I mean
I listened to Vanessa too.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, there ain't not wrong with that. You don't give
that Viob though, My goodness, no.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
No, no, I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
But the idea you're a coach man, you have to
kind of really straddle that line. And for me, it's
not it's not like you have to get rid of
everything that you learn up to that point, but you
have to learn to adapt, just like when you think
about Pete Carroll an idea.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I was talking to Bit the other night.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Well, Pete Carroll is too old in all this, I said, Well,
even though Pete Carroll is like seventy three, he's a
young seventy three.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
He is very young spirit. He plays Scout team quarterback
for him.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yes, I mean the only other, only other head coach
I've known that played Scout team quarterback was Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
When I was in San Francisco. He tell all the
other quarterbacks no, no, no, no, no, I got this.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
So he gets a chance from there about his I
guess maybe he had the childhood dream of being a quarterback,
but doing like every week what I love that? And
he was throwing some US bullets, man, I have to
tell you, I mean, he was kind of spot on.
But I think some old school coach it's hard for
them to let go of some of the teachings or
(28:05):
how they came up because it's kind of that way
almost like I don't know about you, but my father
was this way because his life was rough. He felt
as though my life had to resemble that same thing.
And I'm like, no, what did you not learn anything
from what.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
You went through? So why should I have to go
through it?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
But some coaches they can't let that go. But it's
okay to.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Embrace more Vanessa Carlson's side of yourself.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
It's okay, you gotta find it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
You gotta find it out.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's gonna be he's got to win right away or
else that's going to be replayed everywhere. Yes, we want,
we want your feedback obviously here on the commaspor Health
text line five six six nine zero. The question being
what is something that when you were a player your
coach used to say that, Now you have taken that sing.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
And you apply it in your life. I know you
thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I've got one that I used when I was a coach,
and I use it to this date. I even say
it sometimes to my fiance.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Wait wait you say, oh, like, oh you got to
tell dude.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Well, well, so you know my coach is very much like, hey,
we got a job to do, right. So the one
thing he always says, hey, this isn't a country club,
you know, like it's in a country club the same
a place that just lounge around and do nothing like.
So I use that with my players. And then uh,
this is when I never said, I don't call my
fiance this. Uh, but my one coach used to say,
all right, slaps, let's go like you calls, slappies, other things.
(29:29):
You know, that was that's the more common.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
What was on What was one that your coach that
sticks with you? Well, Mike Westoff had a lot of them.
I love that, But this whole thing was, uh, do
I have to and I'm giving you the PC version?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Right? Do I have to drop break crumbs for you?
And that was his way of like, I'm walking you
through it. We've already visualized it. I coached it well
in the meeting room, and you come out here and
you can't really orchestrate it the way that I wanted orchestra.
And Mike was so smart as a special teams coach
(30:04):
because he would put game plans together and we never
really knew when we went out on the field, as
you know, return units, pump return or kick off return,
what return we were going to run. So he may
have like four or five returns and he would just
kind of look at the opposing team, look at us,
(30:24):
and maybe put some fingers in the air and that
would tell us. Like so when I first got would
Mike man, I used to have to write things down
on my wrists to make sure because if you messed
something up.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
On a rock there.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yes, don't even go to the sideline. You might as
well just head to the tonnel, go take up your
clothes and go home. Because it was kind of a rap,
but he would pull that out in the end in
the game.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Guy, come home.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Man, I gotta drop breadcrumbs for you. Remember, I'm giving you.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
The version imagine.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I've heard a couple of west yes, and I love it.
The players loved that guy.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, and obviously, you know ever's gonna miss him this year.
That's one.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, this ain't a country club. That's always a good one.
Like you know, people are just lounged around. Nothing's getting
done like this ain't a country club.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Got to get it going. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
See, Parcels had a really good one. He saw me
in the training room one time, and Parcel didn't like
players who were injured, right, and he walked in. He
didn't even look at me. He just kind of walked by,
walked out another door, and.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
He's just seeing who was in there.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Yes, yes, see who was in there.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And all he said was, man, I thought they told
me those guys from Miami were tough, but I guess
somebody lied, you know, I'm quicker that I got off
that table.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I was out.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I was just stretching, cause yeah, I was.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yeah, that's all I was doing out of yet.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Oh man, I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And obviously, you know, feel Free to Texture is in
obviously five six six nine zero on the Common Spirit
Health text. On one thing we're gonna get into, Adam
Silver wants to make a big change in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Is it good for the game.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
We'll discuss that here on Broncos, Country nine and k Wait.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Eight, fifty AM ninety four one FM going Home.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Great, you got that one. On to the ball
Folks, do what you listen do.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
The reason I brought it up I told you about
the gym I go to right, yes, you know, you
wake up five point fifteen to morning. Our trainer man,
he we we have a lot of lot of hip
hop and it's legit.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I love it. But it's like there's sixty five.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Seven year old people in there that are doing this
class and it's like, I have no idea. We're listening
to t I, Gucci Mane or listening to the game
Biggie and they're just sitting there looking around and they're
like wondering what what's going on. So I was like,
you know, what's in your workout playlist? I have to
listen to, like something upbeat and heavy that just makes
me want to, you know, run through a wall.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Okay, well for me, it's about the come down from
your workout.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh so you listen after you work out?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Did you just you know, during your workout?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I do. But after my workout, he's just kind of like, calm.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Now, Okay, we're listening to We're about to learn a
lot about Nick Ferguson here, folks.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
All right, so I'm listening to Mufford and Son you heard, no,
I haven't.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I'll play it for you, okay, all right, so let
me give you just a couple.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
So I listened to R E. M.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I don't know that is fight what. I don't know
how that is? Ari em No? Okay, Well is that
aging myself or something?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I don't think it's aging yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But I mean everyone has a very unique listening ear right,
So you haven't.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Listened to ari M. And I'm sure Grant is going
to do you a solid and help.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You out imagine. So one, I love classics.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yes, now the yeah yeah yeahs right, Well, why did
your eyebrows this percussion?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah? I mean they had this. I mean, look, they
had a song called maps. But but but they have
a lot of other songs.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I think one of the songs, oh, I can't remember
the title of it. It was just used in Agatha
h from Amarll on Netflix. I believe No No, No No
on Disney. On Disney they used one of one of
one of the group's songs. But my list is a
little different from yours.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Cody like this is that there's some barely.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Eilish in mind.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yes, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I don't think that there are not too many people
who would think that I would be listening to these
types of things.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Tip Timple of the Dog.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You got that one, you got that one? Hut, I
got that one.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That was on a road trip playlist and we drove
from we drove from here to New York this summer,
and so we had a long playlist that was on there.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So so yeah, yeah, yeah, it's had a song called
heads Will Roll, great, great, great song, and it was
big back in the day, but because of the the
Agatha series on Disney, it just kind of, you know,
PopEd backup, just like with Stranger Things.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And it's kind of funny that.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
My kids tasting music comes from watching like movies. They're
really into these screen movies, but Marvel movies is where
they get a lot of their I guess, introduction into
certain things. Yes, And sometimes it's weird because usually when
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you and your kids are listening to the same thing,
they look at you like, well, I can't listen to
that again because you're not cool. But sometimes my kids
will listen to things and they'll go, oh, how do
you know that? And I'll go like, how do you
know that? So it's kind of that thing. But yes,
we have very different, very different ways that we listen
(03:42):
to music. And I thought it was rather funny that
you listening to Gushi.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Man, hey man, I need hip hop to get me going.
Like it's either that a Metallica. Okay, we got a
text or says an act that was a fun show.
What's heavy that gets you guys going? And then he
says Nick my man Temple of the Dog. Yes, what's
heavy to get you going? I mean you mentioned the
game in the break. I listened to the game a lot.
I tend like if I'm driving, I'm listening to stuff,
I tend to speed.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It's not a good, not a good.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Not to do that, Cody.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I think it's everybody. I'm just like, you know, mapped up.
I'm ready to go. You know, if I'm up at four.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
O'clock in the morning for a five o'clock class, I
got to bring it and our trainer does. But I
just I want you to come to a class just
so you could see the expression on some of the
some of the people who are like older people's places seventies.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, we're listening to some of the music that we're
listening to it. It always gets me.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I know what song will kind of calm you down
and your drive to the gym. I'm not saying it's
gonna get you in the right frame of mind, but
it's gonna slow down your your led foot.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
What is it? A thousand miles of Vanessa Cault?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
No, I can't do that.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I watched it into the studio the other day before
the show, and Nick was just sitting on as if
I was watching the music video.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Listen to the song.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
If you really needed to calm down, didn't you.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
No, it wasn't the thing that I needed to calm down.
But he just you know, you had one of those
moments where you're like, you know what I had. I
have been listening to this song in a long time,
So you want to put it on.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Like av the d song?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh yeah, what did we play the other time I'm
with you?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah? So I'm sitting here on my fiance.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes, because once again I know based on my skin complexion,
totally honest, these don't sound like songs I'm supposed to
be listening to.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Like Terry Crews and White Chicks.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yes, that was always one of my nightmares as a player.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I'll be driving here in Denver, Colorado blasting that and
somebody pull up next to me and they kind of
look at me like, what's.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Happening with this?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And I have to kind of switch really quickly to
a red song as soon as they pull off, go right.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Back to it.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Someone video eating you on Instagram live listening to do
Messa Carlton.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yes, but luckily we didn't have that type of social media.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Thank goodness, man, we have my Space.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Back in the day. Oh John, my Space.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You weren't on my Space, nope, man missed out. Oh
that's where Avril Levine was on my cover page. Complicated. Yeah,
remember the music? They really did it? Thank you Tom.
Shout out to Tom wherever he is in today's world.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Man, but you should Vanessa Carlton was kind of slow
you down.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yes see. I don't like slowing down after a workout.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Like, if anything, while you're driving it because you said
you had Oh no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
No, I get amped up though. You know what, I
can't like me and my skin complexion.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The one music that I actually feel like I absolutely
can and need to listen to in the gym, Megan
the Stallion.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sexy Bread lorilla stuff that I want.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Like, I'm telling you, this seemed like a look like
freaking Friday.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The turntables turned.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Did you guys have swap bodies for a second?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And Saint Louis hip hop is actually pretty good, you know,
But I gotta think my fiance for that, cause she
listens to it and I'm like, okay, I'm not like
choosing to and I'm like, oh, just actually answer me up.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
She says that's her getting ready music, when she's getting
ready to go, like.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Go do stuff. That's what I'm like, all right, you.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Know what I haven't. I haven't met your fiance yet
at some point I hope I do. But she sounds
cool as hell.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Oh yeah, she went to a I mean she's smart.
I kicked my coverage.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I mean, you know we always out kicked our coverage, man,
But I mean she went, she when she went to school.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Philly and all that, so she you know, she's very.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
That's what I'm talking about. Even though we still got
the Freaky Friday. I don't know what happened. No, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It took a turn there, but werena get back. We
can get back to something.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Let's see here.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
We we got a text from a listener says, you're
listening to Meryl Bainbridge nick Amazing Boys, highly underrated.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
No, Meryl Bainbridge, Bainbridge, what what to get you connected
to that?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Well, let me pull up my fancy phone here.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh my, you know what I actually do listen to, Like.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Sometimes I have to listen to music to sleep, but
I won't listen to like actual music.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'll listen to like low five sounds or even.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
If you talk about like the noise like when they
go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
No, no, no, I mean you could play for the baby.
We'll see. Let's see here.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I've got a song free Cody It Marris Vanessa Carlton
and hip Hop who I Smoke by Young and Ace.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
It's hip hop so not safe for work, all right,
I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
To see what that was gonna be.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I'm listening to that on the way home. We've all
been bumping back with that then tonight. Man, I'm not
trying to get fired at all. I will say this though,
man like, I definitely like being amped up.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
If I if I'm getting ready to do something, I
gotta be I got.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
To be in the zone, man Like, I always listen to.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
My pregame playlist was always either jay Z's The Black
Album Okay uh, I mean so many good songs on
there or j Cole.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
J Cole was like my senior year.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Jake Cole was really kind of big right the Friday
Night Lights mixtape. Yeah, uh Cole World's Sidelines. I love it,
Like that's what got me going, But yeah it was.
It was Metallica or jay Z primarily for music.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Kid, what would did you like? Do you ever listen
to anything pre game?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I know Kareem Jackson's favorite song, and that's what I
actually listened to all the time as well before every game.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Oh you know, I would listen to Metallica.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Sam Man answer, sam Man. We used to run out
to that in high school.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, get me going, But once I got back to
the locker room after warming.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Up, I needed to somewhat calm back down again.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yes, because then.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
It's yeah because my song and it's kind of wild
that it happened this way, was Michael Jackson You rock
My World?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Interesting?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yes, and it doesn't seem like one of those songs
that get you fired up or even calm you down.
But for me mentally, that got me into the right
space because I was constantly going over the plays in
my mind, trying to visualize, Okay, if it's I want
to coverage or whatever, how am I going to react
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to these types of combo routes. And with that visualization,
it helped me because if we got on the field
right and that play was called and I see the
lineup and I'm thinking like, okay, well here comes the play.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Almost like a radio dial, it turns on in my head.
Oh no, yes it does. And it was so bad
that once it turns on and couldn't turn it off.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
My DV coach he was.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
He was big in the Wu Tang and so we
always had a lot of Killer Bee references in our
dB room, like well, like as far as breakdown analysis,
breakdowns and you know, just like terminology or even just
you know, some different things pregame. He'll get us fired up, man,
I tell you, you know, you got it up with
the moon Shine, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, so there's a lot of good stuff in there.
I'm with you, though. It shout out to DJ Squezy Tailor.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I take it, you know, game day. He does a
really good job. Broncos Country gets them all fired up. No,
gets some players fired up.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Another one.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I'll say one of my favorite songs we've played in
the gym every morning. Some people look around like, wait
a minute, Knuck if you Buck Nucky. That's my favorite.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I think when I was playing one of our special teams,
coaches actually put that in the video, you know, like
this Saturday night before you're getting ready.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, you're getting ready and.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
They're showing highlights because all of it was done to
kind of get guys in that mode of trying to
play and visualizing once again. So it doesn't make a
difference if you brought me, if you like knuck if
you Buck, or if it's a Shania Twain, you know whatever,
force your boat.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
A game with Shanaia Twain. I don't know if that's
the thing, but well I can tell you this now.
Telling Swift's Bad Blood. Yeah, a little little energy to it,
you know.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I listen to listen to it when I'm going into
a situation that.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I need to be fired up. Yeah, I know it
doesn't sound that way, but I'm telling you a lot
about myself.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Cody right now, I loved that, bron Those Country loves
that too. It's a different side, like people get to
know us a little bit more, like people see me
on social media. I'm usually just like bild manner. But no,
I got a snarky site to me, which I don't
like bringing.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I don't like being a snarky, but I'm very very
laid back with it. Now, you mentioned something too, like
those specially those.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Meetings with their coach the day before, right, and they
showed the video presentation. Our coach one time showed us, uh,
you know this one clip and there was something they
showed us when those like Baltimoreans like uh, death on
wings or something like that.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That was a good one. But then we put together
a compilation too.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And my coach was a he was a history teacher,
so you know, he's bringing up all these different analogies
in his speech and it's getting us fired up. But
then he ended it with el elkooj's's time for.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
War, and I was like, all right, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
No with us talking about sports and things that kind
of get us going.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Do you remember any in any given someday remember the
speech that excuse me, Albucino.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Al Pacino gave that speech. I'm sitting in the theater
and he's given that.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
That speech, and dude come fired up almost like it's
Mike Saidahan.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And apparently he shadowed Mike Shanahan for that, because.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I can see in it now that you mentioned that,
reflecting on a movie, I can see a little Mike
Shanahan in the character. But for me growing up in Miami,
I thought that was more or less Don Shula going
through that scenario with you know, then quarterback Dan Marino.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Right, But that movie kind of really got me.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Gone based on that that speech, and I used to
listen to that speech driving to the Investigo field, getting
me ready. So by the time I hit that turn
I come into the parking lot, my mind was all
greased up.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I was ready to go.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Now, I would say too, I would say, like I
twenty five. You ever get stuck in traffic when you're
in't knowe that fired up mood trying to get to
the game. That would be terrible. I don't know how
I would manage with that as a player.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well, it freaked me the heck out.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Because one time I got held up in traffic hyperactive yeah,
because now I'm like, are the cars going to move fast?
Enough and I'm looking at my watch, Am I gonna
be late? Because I already had a mental time set
for myself and really quickly I had well I have
not had. I still have them like ocds, And that
(14:42):
was part of the whole OCD with me being there
at a certain time.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I had to be at hit the parking lot at
a certain time. Walking through my uniform had to be
a certain way.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I would put one sock on before the other. I
would have go through all these kind of rituules. And
if something didn't happen the way that it should happen,
it threw me off. Oh mentally, I'm throwing off.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, And I think that's a common thing to do it.
Players have specific routines that they do.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I was the same exact way, right and very much
with you, like I had to do the same exact
things the way I did every single game.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
The one time we had a weather delay, right.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
We had storm, lightning and all that, we were off
so we had to rush through warmups, I didn't get
to do my routine and guess what happened, so on
my aco that was it. The one time I didn't
follow it tore the ACL That's where that's where we
were at.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But that's just one of those things. Man, I think
we get a lot of a you know, good connection
off that.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I know there are so many people out there listening
that feel the same exact way that.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
They've been in those situations though. But we had a
lot of talk about still obviously you know on.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Broncos Country tonight, and obviously old school versus new school
ideology and taking a level of coaching and the game itself.
You get all that action here Broncos Country down on
Kait eight fifty am ninety for one FM.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
This is it, this is this is my thing. My man,
Grant coming and clutch here.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
But it always comes through man. He always knows exactly
what the play to kind of fit the mood. So
also too, you gotta be careful what you say because
Grant will record it and play it back for you.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Oh yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know. I used to have a producer on the show.
I used to used to do the same thing. We
have some really nice uh sound bites. There was like
one for like, you know, Taylor Swifts. You know it's like, Hi,
it's me, I'm the problem I made, but I was
you know I was on a show was saying like,
I'm the talent and they use that and it went, Hi,
it's me, and it goes, I'm the talent, it's me,
super producer.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
He's a good quality work. Yeah, fantastic. I mean he
has sound bites.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I was like, wow, I never thought of that there,
But uh, kind of speak with the old school narrative,
We're gonna talk a little bit about, like you know
this in the NFL, Like there's old school ideologies that
you see a lot of people talk about, and then
there's new school ideologies with where the game is heading.
And I feel like this is a good conversation to
kind of get into because not only does this apply
to the game itself, it applies to coaching, it applies
(17:04):
to players themselves, like how have things shifted a little
bit here? And so what are some of the ideologies
you're looking at here?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Old school?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
New school Also coaches based on how they came up
through the coaching ranks. They may be tied to certain philosophies,
certain ideology, things that they would normally do, from how
they coached on the field to standing.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
In front of the players in front of the room.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Delivering the message teaching, and then there's kind of a
new school approach.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Obviously some of the old school coaches.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
They came up, you know, and grinding, and it was
kind of grimy, right, and there was not a lot
of bat.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Of boys and pats on the bat nah, right.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
So it's like, you get out there, you get it done,
and if you're not doing it effectively the way they
wanted to, there's some very spirited words.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
That sometimes are used.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Sometimes now the new approach may be a little more
calmer or relax and some may not gel with that
because when you are around your team, you have to
understand who your players are. And Bill Parcells once told
me that that's the key part of being a coach,
(18:19):
understanding your players and understanding like, you may have fifty
seven players, you can't give them the same speech. One
guy you may have to pull aside and figure out
exactly what motivates him and use those twos to motivate him.
I don't want to say in a very feel for
(18:39):
a threatening way, but you know your job is on
the line.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Yeah, other guys you don't really have to.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
But that's kind of some of the philosophies.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
That you kind of run into well.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And sometimes that can also create a culture where it's
like you're scared to make a mistake, which can either
bring out the best in you or it can make
you completely fall apart. Right, depends on, you know, the
makeup of that player, what they've been through. I know,
for me, growing up, I have some interesting coaches.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I had a.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Combination of old school coaches and I also had a
combination of coaches who had a little bit of both
to them, right, some old school with some new school approach,
And that impacted me certainly.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
When I became a coach, you.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Know, I had to figure out, like what did I
go through as a player that I knew I didn't
respond well to, you know when it came to a coach,
And how does how do my players do that?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Now?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I've been in the moments.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I've had moments where you know, you get your face
mask grabbed, you get you know, the chew.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Spit in your face.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh you know, nothing like that, yeah, man, But to
your point though about that in terms of the message
to the locker room, right, this is where I find
coaches even like like Sean Payn's from the Bill Parcells
treat right, and Bill Parcells was intense. As Ever, how
Sean gives his messages in speed in the locker room,
(19:55):
right or in a team meeting is going to be
very interesting, right, because you have your overall general arching
message to your team.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But then it's like, do you up pulled that message?
When you're on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Everyone pays attention to that, right, and the sideline turns
us all into something different.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Right, That's the element.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So for me, I always looked at that like with
my coaches, Okay, how are these guys on the sideline?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Coaches not like this in the locker room with us,
like coaches laid back. You know, he's honest, and then
this is like, oh now he's scared to make a mistake.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I've got I've gotten reamed, I've gott shoot out. That's
part of it, and I don't mind that. But I
also learned, like when I was going to be a coach,
I'm not just going to be that guy all the time, right.
I know when to turn it on, I know when
to be intense and to really get my message across,
but I'm going to do it in a constructive way.
That's guy, I think kind of how the game has
shifted a little bit, and I think for Sean, being
as old school as he is, I think he's got
(20:46):
a perfect blend of young coaches on a staff who
can kind of play that good cop role which he
wants him to.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Well.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
For me, it's good that you said the word shift
because the first thing they came to mind was like
a stick shift.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And if you ever driven a stick shift, you have
to no, you never no.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Okay, So like with a stick shift, everything has to
flow within like a sort of a rhythm, so you
don't jam up the car, but you're shifting gears, you
down shift, doing all of those things.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
And for me, that's how coaching is. I understand.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Once you get out on the field, there's so many
things that you have to worry about if you're a coach,
especially if you're a coordinator, and you can't worry about
the small nuances of what's going on on the sideline
and this play. This is where you rely on your
staff to bring that information to you, and sometimes it
does get a little heated because you're very competitive.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
You want to win.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
And when you have gone through something in practice, you've
taken your players through it, you've walked through it, and
you watch them go on the field.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
And they don't execute.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
He's like, well, you did a great job on that
during the week, but for some reason, when we get
in the game and lia bullets are flying, everything is
not clicking for you. So it is about five finding
the adequate way to carry forth your message. Still know
it's competitive, be intense, but know when to downshift if
you will. Now here's the other thing when you talk
(22:10):
about old school versus new school, that we've seen changes
not only in philosophies, but in technology. And when I
think about the technological chance changes, I think about when
I was in San Francisco and they were using VR
technology and Nick Mullins was constantly in the room going
(22:33):
through the plays because in practice he didn't get a
lot of those reps.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Jimmy Garoppolo was getting a lot of those reps. So
if this was a way for him to.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Put himself in game time mode where he can make
mistakes and then go back over them and then make
sure he doesn't make the mistakes again, but also limit
the amount of body contact and wear down. And I
thought about Jane Daniels in his development, like they had
the VR technology at LSU when he went to Washington.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
That was something that he was like, no, I need this,
and knowing the idea that he sped it up a
little exact.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So it helped him and his development because when you
first come into any sport for the first time, you're
going to be like a baby lamb that was just born.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
You just all over the place.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
But he gets to a point in a game of
football where things start to slow down, and if you
can get your players coding they're faster, then later.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah, you see more success.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I wonder if he's using Ted Sunquist's technology, because Ted
Ted's got a VR company.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, VR football company he's been latching.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I don't think I think what they.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Were using at LSU, if I'm not mistaken, I think
it was from a German company.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, and this is going to only be accelerated with
you know, people are like, oh, there's value that's going
to expand even further.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Right now, now consider this now, when that technology first
came out, when Ted Sunkist was doing it, people are like, nah,
we don't we don't need that whatever. But the VR technology,
I think at LSU, I think that was about two
million dollars for the whole setup. So now the NFL
is a copycat league, which we know and more teams
(24:23):
that are going to start to doing the same thing. Now,
let me take you back for just a second and
show you old I mean old school versus new school.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
But Vic Fangio was here as a head coach of
the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Riz Gangarello came from San Francisco, tried to implement the
VR technology for Drew Locke yep, and that fell off
because Pick was like, hell, no, I'm an old school coach.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I don't I don't do those types of things. But
for those types of coaches, it's not about you.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, it's about your players.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's about your players.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
That's that's tough too.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
And I know Brett Rippin love that love what Skangs
was doing with that, even told me he was using
that when he was here. But yeah, I mean, it's
just it's not about what you know, it's about what
you can teach. It's about, Okay, how do your players
best learn right in today's world, in today's game, you
have to have a little bit of that middle ground.
Like of course, like you look at the experienced coaches,
(25:15):
the old school thought, right, like the one track mind
is this is how we've always done it, this is
how we're always going to do it, with no room
to grow. That fixed mindset can be negative for you sometimes, right,
because then as a coach sometimes you have a hard
time getting out of your own way. And certainly there
have been coaches we've seen that had certainly happened to
around the league, and certainly those guys don't have jobs anymore.
I'm sure there's some situations some coaching areas where there
(25:39):
are some coaches in today's game that also still operate
with that fixed mindset. But then you look at coaches
who've embraced the growth mindset aspect of it, like Sean McVay,
I think is one of the great examples. I think
Lafleur in Green Bay is a great example of that.
When you were talking about old school and new school
and you were bringing up some of the things. I
couldn't help a thing about a conversation we were.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Having the other night with Dove All. I cannot that's
been on my feet a few times.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It's like, so far in the last couple of days,
that's the most cringe worthy thing that I've heard in
a while. And just the way, did you see how
he was like moving his eyes when he said it?
That to me, I think is what made it worse.
Oh man, that is what kind of coach is he
going to be? Is he gonna be old school or
new school?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Dude? I really don't know. It's as a coach does
a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Of things that you're asked to do, dude, and you
have to be able to go into that room and
command those guys that you're talking to.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
See, my man, Liam, he listens to Vanessa Carlton for sure.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
What did you tyn to say? I'm saying? I mean
I listened to Vanessa too.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, there ain't not wrong with that. You don't give
that Viob though, My goodness, no.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
No, no, I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
But the idea you're a coach man, you have to
kind of really straddle that line. And for me, it's
not it's not like you have to get rid of
everything that you learn up to that point, but you
have to learn to adapt, just like when you think
about Pete Carroll an idea.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I was talking to Bit the other night.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Well, Pete Carroll is too old in all this, I said, Well,
even though Pete Carroll is like seventy three, he's a
young seventy three.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
He is very young spirit. He plays Scout team quarterback
for him.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yes, I mean the only other, only other head coach
I've known that played Scout team quarterback was Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
When I was in San Francisco. He tell all the
other quarterbacks no, no, no, no, no, I got this.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
So he gets a chance from there about his I
guess maybe he had the childhood dream of being a quarterback,
but doing like every week what I love that? And
he was throwing some US bullets, man, I have to
tell you, I mean, he was kind of spot on.
But I think some old school coach it's hard for
them to let go of some of the teachings or
(28:05):
how they came up because it's kind of that way
almost like I don't know about you, but my father
was this way because his life was rough. He felt
as though my life had to resemble that same thing.
And I'm like, no, what did you not learn anything
from what.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
You went through? So why should I have to go
through it?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (28:26):
But some coaches they can't let that go. But it's
okay to.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Embrace more Vanessa Carlson's side of yourself.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
It's okay, you gotta find it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
You gotta find it out.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's gonna be he's got to win right away or
else that's going to be replayed everywhere. Yes, we want,
we want your feedback obviously here on the commaspor Health
text line five six six nine zero. The question being
what is something that when you were a player your
coach used to say that, Now you have taken that sing.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
And you apply it in your life. I know you
thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I've got one that I used when I was a coach,
and I use it to this date. I even say
it sometimes to my fiance.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Wait wait you say, oh, like, oh you got to
tell dude.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Well, well, so you know my coach is very much like, hey,
we got a job to do, right. So the one
thing he always says, hey, this isn't a country club,
you know, like it's in a country club the same
a place that just lounge around and do nothing like.
So I use that with my players. And then uh,
this is when I never said, I don't call my
fiance this. Uh, but my one coach used to say,
all right, slaps, let's go like you calls, slappies, other things.
(29:29):
You know, that was that's the more common.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
What was on What was one that your coach that
sticks with you? Well, Mike Westoff had a lot of them.
I love that, But this whole thing was, uh, do
I have to and I'm giving you the PC version?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Right? Do I have to drop break crumbs for you?
And that was his way of like, I'm walking you
through it. We've already visualized it. I coached it well
in the meeting room, and you come out here and
you can't really orchestrate it the way that I wanted orchestra.
And Mike was so smart as a special teams coach
(30:04):
because he would put game plans together and we never
really knew when we went out on the field, as
you know, return units, pump return or kick off return,
what return we were going to run. So he may
have like four or five returns and he would just
kind of look at the opposing team, look at us,
(30:24):
and maybe put some fingers in the air and that
would tell us. Like so when I first got would
Mike man, I used to have to write things down
on my wrists to make sure because if you messed
something up.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
On a rock there.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yes, don't even go to the sideline. You might as
well just head to the tonnel, go take up your
clothes and go home. Because it was kind of a rap,
but he would pull that out in the end in
the game.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Guy, come home.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Man, I gotta drop breadcrumbs for you. Remember, I'm giving you.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
The version imagine.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I've heard a couple of west yes, and I love it.
The players loved that guy.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, and obviously, you know ever's gonna miss him this year.
That's one.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, this ain't a country club. That's always a good one.
Like you know, people are just lounged around. Nothing's getting
done like this ain't a country club.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Got to get it going. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
See, Parcels had a really good one. He saw me
in the training room one time, and Parcel didn't like
players who were injured, right, and he walked in. He
didn't even look at me. He just kind of walked by,
walked out another door, and.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
He's just seeing who was in there.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Yes, yes, see who was in there.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
And all he said was, man, I thought they told
me those guys from Miami were tough, but I guess
somebody lied, you know, I'm quicker that I got off
that table.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I was out.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I was just stretching, cause yeah, I was.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yeah, that's all I was doing out of yet.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Oh man, I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And obviously, you know, feel Free to Texture is in
obviously five six six nine zero on the Common Spirit
Health text. On one thing we're gonna get into, Adam
Silver wants to make a big change in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Is it good for the game.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
We'll discuss that here on Broncos, Country nine and k Wait.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Eight, fifty AM ninety four one FM going Home.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Great, you got that one. On to the ball
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