Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's got the mustache.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I got a little beard action going on there, That's true.
Grat Smith's daily facial hair Update. That's what they tuned
into the show for cold to see you, gentlemen. I've
been out for a week to see it.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You held it down. The building didn't burn down in
my absence, probably less likely to.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
And we upgraded the fashion on the show while you
were gone to I refuse to believe that.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 5 (00:17):
I mean Greg came in here one day and he
had on a Bolo tie, you know, Bolo tipe Thursday,
and I took a quick glance at it, and it
looked like it was all gold, like the like the
Bolo tie was all gold.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
But but I was mistaken. The light, the hue of
the light confused me.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Now that the bolo tie itself looked like it was
of some gold. But the strings in the Bolo tie,
they were like leather, right were they not?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
That is correct, okay, but but but but just.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Like a nice collaboration on any song, it just bended perfectly.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So it wasn't It wasn't over the top. He wouldn't
look like the third Austin Powers villain.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
No man it was. It was I love God. It
was dope as hell.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
And I was like, yeah, girt, Okay, I see you
kicking it in the shirt he had on tied in perfectly.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Okay, yes, I see you don't dress up for me,
but I have to dressed back down so you don't
look quite as miss.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yes, that was through what it is. I've I've got
my good Mihagi dol Karate T shirt on in.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
A pair of wind pants, fashioning it up as it
were five six six, nine yeeros text Onlympic Shower and
we're gonna check in with a Rod Donner in New
Orleans here in.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
He's done there on Radio Row this latest skiddy update
from the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Uh, where were you guys when.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
You got the notification that Luka Dancis had been traded
for the Dallas Mavericks to the Isle of Lakers, Because
I'll tell you that I was sitting there in amobile
bar and I thought Sham's.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Twitter account had got ACKed.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I came out of a concert on Saturday night with
a buddy and he pulls up his phone. He's like, Holy,
I can't exactly say what he said, but I thought
it was fake news. I thought there's no way Luke
got traded to the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I thought somebody had hacked Sham's account and was pulling
the best prank ever.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Well, I was sitting with my wife watching this series
you check it out called Night Agent.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, the guy.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
From Gan Thrones, right.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I believe so as a season two is out.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
So I was watching that my phone ping, and I
just happened to look down and I was like, what
what is this? And just like you and everyone else,
thought that Sham was hacked or something. But immediately he
went out and was like on his Twitter account and
said x account and said, well, no, this is actually true.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He is.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
What was crazy that?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
How was it that Rob Polinka kept this so quiet
in the world of sports where people.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Drossing it all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It was basically I got the background on a little
bit of that. It was basically that Dallas dialed up
La and said and like said, hey, we're willing to
move him.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
This is what we want back.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But this can't get out there, like the Benefici is
out there, this is dad And somehow the bigger thing
to me is not robal Linka.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's how they kept the Utah.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Jazz involved in the conversation, but in the dark on
the principles.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Well, well, here's some audien from Nigo Harris at the
press conference the day try and explain all of it.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I'd like to.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Give Rob Polinka a lot of credit. You know, trades,
you guys have been around here. Trades don't happen at
the smallest level without stuff getting out. And Rob and
I were able to have, you know, really intense conversations
over the course of you know, three or four weeks
that started out as a coffee that you know, it
was more Hey would you ever? I don't know what
(03:38):
I let me think of, you know, and then it
build upon that, and you know, we kept it between us.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
We had to.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
We had to keep it tight. Jay Kid didn't know
about it. But Jaki and I are aligned and we
talk about archetypes and we talk about the culture that
we want to create. So I know the type of
players that that he likes.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Without actually talking to them. Hey would you you know?
So I know that?
Speaker 7 (04:01):
And JK coached them when they won the championship. So
so I think when you're aligned with your coach like that,
I know the type of players that he likes, and
so I felt good about it making sense to where
we're trying to go.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
That was, Uh yeah, How did how you kept Danny
Ainge on the hook for a three way trade without
him knowing up until a half hour before the trade
who the principals were.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Well, the big thing for me was, and I've said
this before, because there's this whole idea in sports, in
NFL and in basketball, there is so called h a
legal tampering period or illegal tampering period. And I'm like,
anytime that you sit down, like Nico Harrison sat down
with Rob Polinka, who he knows from those days working
(04:48):
with Rob and Rob represent Kobe, that there was a
phone call, I mean there were they over coffee, your team,
whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
They had a discussion like, hey, you know what, then
let's listen.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
How pathetically speaking, what if I were to say I
was open to trading this player, what would you say?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, cool, what is it you're looking for that player?
And why are you calling me?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Well, I'm just saying hypothetically speaking, like if I were
not saying that I am, if I were, if and
how these conversations took place, But you're absolutely right, how
do you get so many people not to mention it
until the last minute, Like Clutch Sports didn't know, Lebron
didn't know, Ad didn't know. I saw something today, say well,
(05:32):
Luca bo just had just purchased fifteen million dollar home
in Dallas and then he found out.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
How do you keep that many people out of the frame.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That does not happen in today's world very often because
you tell one person and the secret's out, period, you
know everybody. No, people just don't keep secrets much anymore.
And then that's a part of where I've gotten to
where I am is because I will keep seeing it's
you know, as far as that stuff goes put in
(06:03):
the vault. Man, like you tell me something and it's
in the vault, it's an vault, you know. But you know,
there aren't a lot of people that do that. There
are people that can't just can't help themselves. They got
to run their mouths on everything. They got to let
people know that they know something, you know, that kind
of stuff, and so that's stuff it was. It's just
fascinating to me on a bunch of levels because this
trade isn't costing Luca Donch a bunch of money.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
He can't get a super Max anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Uh, it ends up costing him a ton of money
relatively speaking.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
For the next deal that he's going to sign.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's the NBA and all the money is guaranteed, unlike
the NFL, so a little bit different, but still it's
gonna cost it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It will cost luc a bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I I don't think that this trade, because people are
talking about does this affect him with the championship all
that kind of stuff. I don't think it does. I
think this is a trade about the future. This is signaling.
This is Rob polink At tipping that the Lakers. The
future the Lakers is not Lebron. This is Rob polink
Is saying that, you know, okay, Lebron. This is we're
closing your window and I'll put a piece next to
you for this run. But this is really tipping the
(06:58):
you know, the cap on what what the future of
the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Is for me.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I just like I'm imagining this phone call in my
head where Rob's picking up the phone and it's Nico Harrison.
He's like, hey, hey, Rob, we want ad He's like, listen,
that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I'm willing to give you dodged Chilby right there.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Can you imagine get that call and you're like it's
not gonna happen, and he's like, well, we're willing to
give you dodge it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
She'd be like, I have already shipped him to you.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Well for me, like everyone was talking about how shot
they were, uh this past weekend and on sports talk,
I wasn't shocked because what you just said is exactly
what I thought that Rob Polinka is channeling his inner
Kobe Bryant, and he's say that, you know what, the
Lakers is used to having superstars. I know the window
(07:45):
with Lebron James is closing, So I need to go
ahead and press the button on trying to get the
next superstar to build around that guy, because that's what.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
LA is known for.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
And this is a significant amount of pressure that is
now placed on Luca being a part of the Lakers
that he would have never had even following dirt in Dallas.
He now has that type of pressure in Los Angeles.
But this was Rob saying, you know what, Lebron, We've
listened to you over the years. We brought in so
many players that you and Clutch Sports wanted us to
(08:19):
bring in. It's not working right now, and I want
to make sure that the Lakers legacy is still intact.
So we're gonna bring We're gonna move Ad, who was
a clutch sports guy. We're gonna bring in Luca, who
is an international sensation when healthy and when he's on
the court.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And fully condence the other part of this, because Dallas
is essentially giving up the franchise here because of what
conditioning concerns. Uca had allegedly ballooned up to two seventy.
He does have a problem. He drinks too much. Okay,
I'm like to say that now. There was something that
happened last year when they were.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I can't remember who they be. I think it might
have been the Timberwolves with the beer. Yes, and Michael
Finley took a lot of strays for people like, well,
why are you trying to big dog him like that
and disrespect him?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I'd said then, as I said now.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
And I put the video, I said, well, he was
looking out for him as a former player. We talked
about it, Yes, yeah, former player assistant GM and his
involvement being the personnel like there's nothing wrong with drinking
a beer after a game one the public appearance where
you were for one and then the other thing, and
I'm like, well, now we know fast forward what the
(09:34):
situation is that may have been put more infasities on
what Feely did saying, look, dude, there's a problem with
you doing not saying you're alcoholic, but you're conditioning.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's a problem. The worst kept secret Dallas is he
drinks too much. I mean, you know, it'll be the
worst kept secret in LA.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But I think, you know, if they can get him
right as far as that kind of stuff goes, and say, hey, look,
in order to be dedicated to the craft, in order
to get your game to where you need it to be,
you're gonna have to give up some of these stuff
until after you've done playing.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
But I think Ben this might have been the kick
in the dairy year that he needed.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Might be you know, hey, you're shaking things up. They
can't do.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That kind of stuff anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
They'll go on to be the LA Lakers instead of
the La Lebron's after this year is really it was
really the point of what.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I was trying to get to these because you know,
they went ahead and did the.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Brown any thing, and you know, Brown is mad Ad
did all that kind of stuff, and it's like, Okay,
well gave you that, and you didn't bring me my
hardware that you know exactly, So now it's time for
me to Now it's time for me to get on
the other thing. I play has made some pretty good
moves for the Lakers. All said done. I mean, the
connect draft pick was good. They've He's gone through and
turned some middling players into much better players.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Uh, in terms of wheeling and dealing and everything.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I'm not saying he's the NBA's Howie Roseman, but uh,
he has certainly I think improved the Lakers overall. I
still don't think the Lakers beating the Nuggets in a
seven game series, even with Luca and Lebron and what
do they do it inside?
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You know, I mean this is they're just gonna everybody's
camped in the three point line. They're just giving it up.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Under the bucket.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I mean, I guess for me, and I'll ask you
the listeners, you tell me what you think.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Grant chime in as well. The fact that one.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
They kept this silent and also no other team was
in the running for Luca, and I'm thinking if it
was opened up, you had more more people. Me living
here in Denver, I was a little salty because I wanted,
in my mind, Calvin Booth to go after a guy
like Luka Doncik and you put Luca with Jokic.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Could you Could you imagine Nuggets fans if you had,
even if you had to give.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Up a first rounder Jamal and MPJ, if you had
Nikola Jokic with Russell Westbrook and Luka Doncik.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I know it may not sound that great to other.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
People, but to me, I was upset because Calvin Booth
didn't have a chance to put his foot in the trade.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Pat Jokic Lucas sounds like a rock festival just saying
would be.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
The international stars of the NBA, though, well, right, we've done.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Both of the best players from overseas. Yeah, all the
euro eyeballs would.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Be everyone would be wearing Nuggets skier overseas.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
And this is why I'm upset that they can't pick
so quiet and they didn't open it up to all
the teams in the league, because I know Calvin Booth
likes younger players.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Michael Malone, on the other hand, that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I I question how they're gonna do the lineup now
because the Lakers, I mean, Dorian Finney Smith has come alive.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He's been a player.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Now he's playing as a six man. They played him
as a three, but they kind of played as a
six man. What are you going to do a connect?
Are you leaving him at the two? You're taking him
off the court to put Doc on there Hachimura.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
To me, it almost feel like you have to put
Luca at the three. Uh and and bring ruy in
off the off the bench is kind of what it
feels like to me.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
But I mean, I don't really know what you do here.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Let's see, Okay, you're thinking line up situations, which which
you know JJ Reddy should think about. But at the
same time, it's like, okay, well, obviously it's one basketball.
I mean, well, Lebron knowing as no there's no a
d in a game, well, he looked to defer to
(13:12):
Luca at times. But because Lebron, even though he's the
older player, he still can get downhill and get to
the bucket, so he still can penetrate and dish and
give it to Luca because Luca can shoot from anywhere.
That's one thing right now, It's like Luca's game is
like that old school Larry Bird and Michael Jordan McDonald commercial,
off the backboard, off the window, nothing.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
But net are you playing?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I mean, are you playing Luca at the one?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
How are you configuring this lineup with these guys?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Because you don't want to take Connect out of the
starting lineup? You kind of don't want to take really,
but you have to. And your weakest link is at
the point. So do you just put him up there
at the point and have him walking it up?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And I mean, because that's Lebron's deal.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Well, the thing about it that you can if you're J. J. Reddick,
you can mix it up. You have some things, some
pieces that you can interchange. Now when you think about
you know your point guard, Neither Luca or Lebron is
that ideal type god, but they can do it.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
So I would put Luca at the three position, right.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I mean that makes the most sense to me, Yes,
because you're running Lebron at the four. Jackson Hayes will
be your only interior you know whatever, He's there to
be a shot alter or not anything else. So that
way you could keep connect on the court, but that
at least Austin reeves at the one you know, what
do you I mean that needs an upgrade At the
end of the day, I still don't think, you know,
and then you get dfs coming off the pont. I
(14:36):
don't think that the Lakers are wired for a championship
run with this, but it's gonna be interesting to sort
of see how they work these lineups.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
The only thing that is interesting for us to see,
like you said, the lineup who's going to get the
ball with the last second shot.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
That's the thing that's important.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Kay can Lebron at this stage of his career just
kind of acknowledge, you know what, my time here in
the NBA and with the Lakers are over.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Now. I got to defer to Luca, but here's a
bigger thing for me. Now, the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Are sound with someone in the situation, not exactly like
the Nuggets, but someone like the Nuggets, because the Nuggets
their whole thing is well, their best defense is their offense.
But it comes a point where you're going to have
to show that you can stop people. And that's been
a problem for the Denver Nuggets. Because we talked with
no Bruce Brown, no k c P guys like that,
(15:26):
and Aaron Gorn is your so called defensive specialist.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Is your defender?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I mean that's all you got, really, I mean, Russell
Russ Westbrook will make an effort every now and again,
all that kind of stuff, but really you don't have.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I mean, you just don't have.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You've got a defensive head coach and a bunch of
guys who don't play defense.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
And that's the thing that frustrates the heck out of
Coach Malone.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Might have to start calling the Nver Nuggets because there's
no d Hey man.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Hey and coach Malone, well, he would like to see
something different. But I'll say this, this move with the
Lakers and the MAVs, for me, it impacts the Nuggets
because the Nuggets are still in the West. They're gonna
have to find some way to get better defensively, especially
(16:10):
on that second unit, because you got to figure out
some point. Luca's gonna figure it out with the Lakers
and they're gonna add more players.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Brent and Peyton Watson gonna be out at least a
month is what they're saying. By the way, here's the
projected starting five seven players tonight. Well here's a projected
starting five for the Lakers. Since the Luka Donchets trade Luca,
Austin Reeves, Ruey had Tamara, Lebron James, and Jackson Hayes.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So they're put they're putting connect off the bench, which
I think is a mistake. I think, you know in
any situation that Reeves is the weak link and you've
got two guys that can bring the ball up, both
in Lebron and in Luca.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
To me pull Reeves off, Uh, you know. But that's
the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
They they got options for the second unit that when
you look at the nuggets they that they don't have.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
And some of the teams they don't have.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's that's the that's the advantage that they're going to
was that they are definitely deeper as far as that
as far as that goes, you can try where y.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Out, play a little bit more of tempo and try
where ye out. But you know, what, do I know
connect to me? I mean, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I guess if you've got Luca in there, it's it's
becomes a redundant skill set. So having him come off
the bench, maybe maybe after a second of thought, might be,
might be all right?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
By the way, the Nuggets in the you were talking
about the projected lineups, the Nuggets and the Pels playing
the night, like seven starters between the two teams are out.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I think it is. Didn't they just play.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
On Saturday too, out on New Orleans something like that?
Nuggets beat them by like thirty five.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, it was absolutely ridiculous. So anyway, we got a
Pike show tonight.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We'll get you up with a Rod live from New
Orleans in a little bit. I want to talk about
the other big trade that went down. And then we
got players in the it's not just NBA trade season.
We got NFL trades, players asking.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
To be traded. Teams look at the trade guys, get
into all that. We come back. This is Brocos Country
to night right here on Kawai.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
So you'll getch You and Luca are both ball dominant
and slow euro As we lack athleticism on the perimeter,
hence the bad three D.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
First of all, the logistical aspects of pulling off something
like that, obviously you got to think about them, and
for me, you figure something out. If you have a
Bud either MPJ and another pick or Jamal.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
And you can say that both Nikola Jokic and Luka
a ball dominate type of guys. But I've seen these
two guys play in an All Star Game and you
may say, well, that's not a larger sample size, which
is not massive, but seeing how these two guys interacted
on and off the court in the All Star Game
(18:43):
where you know, this'scoring one hundred and forty four points,
I would like to think that they would find a
way to make that work. Because you can say they
have slow games, they're not as athletic, but the idea
is that if one guy knows how the other guys plays,
that's not to say that it wouldn't work. And for me,
I would have loved to see both of those guys
(19:04):
play together in a Denver Nuggets uniform.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I think we all would love to see those two
play together just because I think it'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
But you know, the end of the day, it is
what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
He's with the Lakers now and that's kind of now
that goes. I. Yeah, I don't know how he would
I don't know if he would solve the Nuggets defensive problems.
Going to tell you what, you have both those guys
playing offense for you, you might not need them.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Once again, that has been the Nuggets.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
You know, identity from a defensive perspective, our defense is
our offense. You got two guys who can share the ball.
Both are great perimeter shooters. Give that international flair to it.
And then when you talk about Denver being a small
basketball market, now it opens you up from an international standpoint.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
That's the way that I'm looking at it. Obviously is
not going to happen.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I would have loved to have the Nuggets have an opportunity. They,
like other NBA teams, did not have to have the
abilieve to be a part of the trade. But they're
gonna have to deal with this one way or the other.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Yeah, they are the other big trade of course there
Fox to the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
What did you think of that trade?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I love that trade. That's another player that I was like, ooh, man,
I would love to see in the Nuggets uniform.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Aaron Fox can't create his own shot anytime he's played
against the Nuggets. He's the type of guy that would
constantly push the pace and put the fenders on their
heels and still get the end one and he's a
perimeterve shooter.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, I mean, obviously this makes Chris Paul sit down.
But you know at that point, at that point, now
you got Wemby and Fox.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
As a as a starting point here to rebuild this
thing back out. And that's a pretty good starting point
to build this thing back out.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Why do you think it makes Chris Paul set I
think he played Aaron Fox as a two guard. We
could he could share point guard responsibility. Yeah, keep Chris
Paul's leadership on the floor. This trade scares me more
for the Nuggets chances of a championship run in the
next couple of years, more than the Luca or adep
moving to separate teams because I think Daron, I mean
(21:15):
Wemby in his second year as playing unreal, Aaron Fox
is a playmaker.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
This is the future of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
But here's the thing also.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Too, You think about the ability to attract other guys,
and with the NBA, I mean, you're not gonna have
this like like the Big Three, right, with the contracts
being what they're going to be, You're not gonna be
able to have that.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
So you're gonna have to have guys who.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Coming in looking to take kind of margin of deals
to play with guys like that. And then also you
and San Antonio. You know how much money you save
in San Antonio?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
No that from California. To look.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
The problem with that though, is if you because you
do say Chris Paul dout Is snarre, you're not sitting
down Devin Vassel.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
He's the second leading scorer.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah. Well, and the worst case scenario, you have Chris
Paul as your backup point guard, right, and.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That that's really what this comes down to. So are
you sitting Stefan Castle or Chris Paul?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You're probably sitting Chris Paul in this scenario running with
a three guard lineup that has Harrison par Harrison Barnes
and Wenby down low.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
But that's that's that's not bad.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
And once again, Chris Paul knows where what stage he
is in his career.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
He's trying to win the championship.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
He took that role with the Warriors exactly if they
tell him, look, man, this is the best thing for us,
and you can be that court general coming off the
bitch to lead that group. Fine, I mean, Klay Thompson,
you know who was that dude in Golden State, right, I.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Mean he had to come off the bitch. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I mean, to me, Chris Paul is the one. You
have to sit down here. It just it just doesn't
make sense any other direction the West. Well, who's gonna
I mean, I'm telling you that that.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I think you're right, Grant. I think I think that
trade is probably more scary for the Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I mean, if you look at the depth that they've
got there, I mean, Kelton Johnson comes off the bench
for them already. Now I've got Chris Paul of that
bench as well, you know, and there's there's a bunch
of names that I think most basketball player, most most
basketball fans may not be as familiar with, but that
that team is pretty loaded. They've they've got a good,
a good solid core that runs nine, maybe maybe even
(23:25):
ten deep.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Okay, think when you really think about it, think about
what the Spurs have done over the past two years.
After Jenoblee and Tim Duncan right Tony Parker, they were
just kind of left for dead.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Pop is just trying to use the last couple of
years of his career to just kind of bring them alive.
But now they get Wimby now be alive once again.
It reminds me of the whole philosophy. And when you
think about the Spurs, it's okay, we're gonna get international players,
We're gonna get well rounded, veteran players. We're gonna get
maybe even some players who teams fill are over the heel. Well,
(24:03):
we're going to find a way to get them to
play together co cohesively.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
And that's what the Spurs were.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, And I mean, as long as Pop stays healthy,
it's not like he forgot how to coach.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
He just hadn't had much talent on that roster. He's
got plenty of talent.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Now, Yes, plenty talent that can really push the plate pace,
spread the floor. They can get your buckets, they can
block shots, they gets your rebounds for me, sign me
up for.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
The West is so interesting now?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
And then I was seeing something about the possibility of
the Sons thinking about trading Kadmy.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Feel like they might have hit their ceiling and they
might need to move that in order to man There's
a lot of wheeling.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Deal in here at the end.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Also on the NFL side, which we'll get into here
in a little bit. Miles Garrett puts out a letter
today in which he tweaked his general manager too, suggesting
that he wants to be trade that suggesting basically demanding
a trade from Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
The Rams.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Cooper Cup put out that they're Rams are exploring trading him.
It's boy, it's it's wheeling and dealan season. It's not
even the Super Bowl yet. Yeah, put the money in
the bag.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I like the fact of mals Garrett saying, Look, he's
realizing that his talent is being wasted in Cleveland and
he wants out. And Cooper Cup is on the opposite side,
he realizing that, you know what, They're moving in a
different direction. The Rams new Cooper Cup is Pookinnakua and
(25:30):
he is He's won a Super Bowl, so now he's
trying to find another home where maybe he can be
more competitive, he can get more touches right in a
particular offense, would you? And I don't want to make
this specific for the Denver Broncos. I don't want to
be but do you think that there's a team.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Out there for a guy like you know, Cooper Cup?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Oh, there absolutely is. I'm sure that there's somebody out
there that says, Hey.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Thirty two year old receiver who's played in the total
of what twenty games over the last two seasons, you know,
and gets paid twenty what twenty five million dollars a year?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Bringing that on, Great, you're gonna like this. Zach Taylor
was once in Los Angeles with the Rams.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
T Higgins leaves. Now you bring a Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Oh man, with Joe Burrow's accuracy, Cooper Cup on those
choice routes, you got Jamar Gooing deep.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
That's a great replacement.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Fantasy owners, beware who died.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Ben doesn't want him in Denver. I'll take him in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yes, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
It's eighteen games over the last three seasons, declining production,
hasn't had a hasn't really had a good season since
twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Hit the Tripper crown, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Season in twenty twenty one and then nothing after that
because he had injuries.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Poking the cool came along is part of a bro
if he's getting injured and get.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Produced for him, I know, but I'm telling you what.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You know what you know?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Who else would love him? I know Adam Peters will
love him.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Mine to Washington, right, maybe to pair with Miles Garrett.
Bring him in too, m How do you like that?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Ben?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Wait, bring Miles pair with Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
You talk about Miles Garrett and Cooper Cup to Washington.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I don't know about Cup, but I do think Miles Garrett,
if he gets traded, I believe that's where it would go.
We'll see a cup thing here, though, that sounds like
a trained wreck.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Hen speaking of wrecks about to dave O Brian check
out with.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Trapp obviously open a night down in New Orleans and
Nick Sirianna, head coach for the Philadelphia Eagles, who was
standing up there was sitting sitting down rather and he's
kind of fielding interviews and talking. Then all of a sudden,
this shadowy figer comes from his left and just puts
a nice wet one on the side.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Of his face. Right now, I know a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
But I'm not doing anything like that, right A good handshake?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
How you doing and dabbing somebody up?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
But Chad Johnson just unexpectedly just walked up to him
pecked him on the side of the face.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I don't know, maybe they got that got a relationship,
you know.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
They probably do know each other in passing or whatever
like that. But there's a time and the place for everything.
That was neither the time nor the place.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So the same thing you told me when I walked
up on you and kiss you have the cheap you
know about that?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It's weird? Yes?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yes, what's the name of that bar out of the
man hole?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
No, it's called Chippolet I believe it's shipholt Ley according
to dudes.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, listen to the dudes on Dudess podcast.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
No, that's where I.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Got the idea. Five six, six, nine zeros a text line.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Appreciate, Uh, the texts that are coming in three or three,
says Jordan Clarkson, would be a much cheaper version of
Daron Fox. I mean, nah, there's the poor man's diet,
there's the poor.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Man's and I guess I don't know. Yeah, what kind
of comparison is that?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
No, I don't know about that, man, No, come down
with something else.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, you always talk a bit about the the Raiders.
We talk about the AFCB and tough. The a SCU
West just got really tough. Of course they hired Pete
Carroll as the head coach. Listeners this show knew that
was coming for about a month now, I guess. But
they brought in Chip Kelly as the offensive coordinator, and
(29:08):
that fascinates me.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I knew Chip was.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Getting a lot of NFL looks, both in Tampa and
in Houston.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
He winds up with the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
And to me, that is fascinating that that's fascinating pairing
of the two of those there.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Obviously Carol very familiar with Chip Kelly. Oh Man.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I just the Raiders are getting better. They don't have
the personnel, but they're getting better on the coaching side
of things, and it's it's interesting to me that that's
the higher Does any of that scare you guys at all?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That did bringing in a coaching staff like that?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Well, for me, yes, because when you talked about it
being a possibility after everything that we heard about all
these other individuals taking the Raiders' job, right, and you
said that it's probably gonna be Carol, at the end
of the day, for me, it was like, oh wow,
now you got two coaches with league experience, and you
(30:03):
got Chip Kelly, who did a heck of a job,
you know with Ohio State and the way that their
offense ran. So he's familiar with those players coming out,
So you got to figure that he's going to go
in that room and he's going to talk to them
and say.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Hey, listen, we need to go get this player. But
really quickly. Let me tell you.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
So the Raiders have a first, a second, two thirds,
a fourth, a fifth to three sixes, and a seventh
round pick. They're gonna look to load up. So that's
gonna put a lot of pressure on a lot of
teams in this particular division that the AFC West, and
it's going to force the Broncos to go out and
try to really get better players in free agency but
(30:41):
also in the draft as well.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, I mean I came back down in Amobile. Scuttle
butt was that if you're a Shadora fan, there's really
two teams here. It's the Giants and the Raiders, and
really the teams that love him. And then there aren't
a whole lot of teams that love him, but those
are the two that do. That's gonna be interesting because
they're both, you know, they're both kind of right there,
cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
You know, I don't know if I'm buying the Titans
love or not.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
We'll see part of me thinks that they're trying to
get somebody to jump up because I know they love
a Bill Carter. So that's gonna be this This draft
season is gonna be kind of fascinating when you've got
a couple of prospects, guys like Travis Hunter or Abdill
Carter who I think are head and shoulders above the quarterbacks,
and you get those quarterbacks, you know how they are.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
They get pushed up because the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
It's gonna be real interesting top five this year in
terms of the draft, because this also isn't what you
would call a blue chip draft.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
It's fat in the middle.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You got a bunch of guys that normally in a
normal draft will be drafted through the second to the
fourth round, but you really only got about nine, ten
to eleven guys that are blue chip guys that you
had that big first round.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Great on No, and don't forget two years ago when
UCLA destroyed to see you, buffs, who was the first
coach to walk over to Shador Sanders and give him
encourage your words?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Chip Kelly, Chip Kelly, He's seen he's familiar with it.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
That feels like the right you know, I mean it
feels like if you're going to have somebody be a
quarterback in that city in Las Vegas, shdor could be.
I wonder for Broncos fans what that does to them
in terms of the Buffs shoot Door, see you kind.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Of crossover thing there watching him go to the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I mean, it's nothing.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
You in the Raiders uniform you enemy, Yes, you are
the enemy if you're in that uniform.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Anthony Rodriguez is down there in New Orleans at the
Super Bowl all week.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We check in with him. We come back Broncos Country,
Ka
It's got the mustache.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I got a little beard action going on there, That's true.
Grat Smith's daily facial hair Update. That's what they tuned
into the show for cold to see you, gentlemen. I've
been out for a week to see it.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You held it down. The building didn't burn down in
my absence, probably less likely to.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
And we upgraded the fashion on the show while you
were gone to I refuse to believe that.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 5 (00:17):
I mean Greg came in here one day and he
had on a Bolo tie, you know, Bolo tipe Thursday,
and I took a quick glance at it, and it
looked like it was all gold, like the like the
Bolo tie was all gold.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
But but I was mistaken. The light, the hue of
the light confused me.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Now that the bolo tie itself looked like it was
of some gold. But the strings in the Bolo tie,
they were like leather, right were they not?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
That is correct, okay, but but but but just.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Like a nice collaboration on any song, it just bended perfectly.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So it wasn't It wasn't over the top. He wouldn't
look like the third Austin Powers villain.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
No man it was. It was I love God. It
was dope as hell.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
And I was like, yeah, girt, Okay, I see you
kicking it in the shirt he had on tied in perfectly.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Okay, yes, I see you don't dress up for me,
but I have to dressed back down so you don't
look quite as miss.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yes, that was through what it is. I've I've got
my good Mihagi dol Karate T shirt on in.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
A pair of wind pants, fashioning it up as it
were five six six, nine yeeros text Onlympic Shower and
we're gonna check in with a Rod Donner in New
Orleans here in.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
He's done there on Radio Row this latest skiddy update
from the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Uh, where were you guys when.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
You got the notification that Luka Dancis had been traded
for the Dallas Mavericks to the Isle of Lakers, Because
I'll tell you that I was sitting there in amobile
bar and I thought Sham's.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Twitter account had got ACKed.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I came out of a concert on Saturday night with
a buddy and he pulls up his phone. He's like, Holy,
I can't exactly say what he said, but I thought
it was fake news. I thought there's no way Luke
got traded to the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I thought somebody had hacked Sham's account and was pulling
the best prank ever.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Well, I was sitting with my wife watching this series
you check it out called Night Agent.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, the guy.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
From Gan Thrones, right.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I believe so as a season two is out.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
So I was watching that my phone ping, and I
just happened to look down and I was like, what
what is this? And just like you and everyone else,
thought that Sham was hacked or something. But immediately he
went out and was like on his Twitter account and
said x account and said, well, no, this is actually true.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He is.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
What was crazy that?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
How was it that Rob Polinka kept this so quiet
in the world of sports where people.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Drossing it all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It was basically I got the background on a little
bit of that. It was basically that Dallas dialed up
La and said and like said, hey, we're willing to
move him.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
This is what we want back.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But this can't get out there, like the Benefici is
out there, this is dad And somehow the bigger thing
to me is not robal Linka.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's how they kept the Utah.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Jazz involved in the conversation, but in the dark on
the principles.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Well, well, here's some audien from Nigo Harris at the
press conference the day try and explain all of it.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I'd like to.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Give Rob Polinka a lot of credit. You know, trades,
you guys have been around here. Trades don't happen at
the smallest level without stuff getting out. And Rob and
I were able to have, you know, really intense conversations
over the course of you know, three or four weeks
that started out as a coffee that you know, it
was more Hey would you ever? I don't know what
(03:38):
I let me think of, you know, and then it
build upon that, and you know, we kept it between us.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
We had to.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
We had to keep it tight. Jay Kid didn't know
about it. But Jaki and I are aligned and we
talk about archetypes and we talk about the culture that
we want to create. So I know the type of
players that that he likes.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Without actually talking to them. Hey would you you know?
So I know that?
Speaker 7 (04:01):
And JK coached them when they won the championship. So
so I think when you're aligned with your coach like that,
I know the type of players that he likes, and
so I felt good about it making sense to where
we're trying to go.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
That was, Uh yeah, How did how you kept Danny
Ainge on the hook for a three way trade without
him knowing up until a half hour before the trade
who the principals were.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Well, the big thing for me was, and I've said
this before, because there's this whole idea in sports, in
NFL and in basketball, there is so called h a
legal tampering period or illegal tampering period. And I'm like,
anytime that you sit down, like Nico Harrison sat down
with Rob Polinka, who he knows from those days working
(04:48):
with Rob and Rob represent Kobe, that there was a
phone call, I mean there were they over coffee, your team,
whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
They had a discussion like, hey, you know what, then
let's listen.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
How pathetically speaking, what if I were to say I
was open to trading this player, what would you say?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, cool, what is it you're looking for that player?
And why are you calling me?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Well, I'm just saying hypothetically speaking, like if I were
not saying that I am, if I were, if and
how these conversations took place, But you're absolutely right, how
do you get so many people not to mention it
until the last minute, Like Clutch Sports didn't know, Lebron
didn't know, Ad didn't know. I saw something today, say well,
(05:32):
Luca bo just had just purchased fifteen million dollar home
in Dallas and then he found out.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
How do you keep that many people out of the frame.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That does not happen in today's world very often because
you tell one person and the secret's out, period, you
know everybody. No, people just don't keep secrets much anymore.
And then that's a part of where I've gotten to
where I am is because I will keep seeing it's
you know, as far as that stuff goes put in
(06:03):
the vault. Man, like you tell me something and it's
in the vault, it's an vault, you know. But you know,
there aren't a lot of people that do that. There
are people that can't just can't help themselves. They got
to run their mouths on everything. They got to let
people know that they know something, you know, that kind
of stuff, and so that's stuff it was. It's just
fascinating to me on a bunch of levels because this
trade isn't costing Luca Donch a bunch of money.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
He can't get a super Max anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Uh, it ends up costing him a ton of money
relatively speaking.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
For the next deal that he's going to sign.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's the NBA and all the money is guaranteed, unlike
the NFL, so a little bit different, but still it's
gonna cost it.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It will cost luc a bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I I don't think that this trade, because people are
talking about does this affect him with the championship all
that kind of stuff. I don't think it does. I
think this is a trade about the future. This is signaling.
This is Rob polink At tipping that the Lakers. The
future the Lakers is not Lebron. This is Rob polink
Is saying that, you know, okay, Lebron. This is we're
closing your window and I'll put a piece next to
you for this run. But this is really tipping the
(06:58):
you know, the cap on what what the future of
the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Is for me.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I just like I'm imagining this phone call in my
head where Rob's picking up the phone and it's Nico Harrison.
He's like, hey, hey, Rob, we want ad He's like, listen,
that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I'm willing to give you dodged Chilby right there.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Can you imagine get that call and you're like it's
not gonna happen, and he's like, well, we're willing to
give you dodge it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
She'd be like, I have already shipped him to you.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Well for me, like everyone was talking about how shot
they were, uh this past weekend and on sports talk,
I wasn't shocked because what you just said is exactly
what I thought that Rob Polinka is channeling his inner
Kobe Bryant, and he's say that, you know what, the
Lakers is used to having superstars. I know the window
(07:45):
with Lebron James is closing, So I need to go
ahead and press the button on trying to get the
next superstar to build around that guy, because that's what.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
LA is known for.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
And this is a significant amount of pressure that is
now placed on Luca being a part of the Lakers
that he would have never had even following dirt in Dallas.
He now has that type of pressure in Los Angeles.
But this was Rob saying, you know what, Lebron, We've
listened to you over the years. We brought in so
many players that you and Clutch Sports wanted us to
(08:19):
bring in. It's not working right now, and I want
to make sure that the Lakers legacy is still intact.
So we're gonna bring We're gonna move Ad, who was
a clutch sports guy. We're gonna bring in Luca, who
is an international sensation when healthy and when he's on
the court.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And fully condence the other part of this, because Dallas
is essentially giving up the franchise here because of what
conditioning concerns. Uca had allegedly ballooned up to two seventy.
He does have a problem. He drinks too much. Okay,
I'm like to say that now. There was something that
happened last year when they were.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I can't remember who they be. I think it might
have been the Timberwolves with the beer. Yes, and Michael
Finley took a lot of strays for people like, well,
why are you trying to big dog him like that
and disrespect him?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I'd said then, as I said now.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
And I put the video, I said, well, he was
looking out for him as a former player. We talked
about it, Yes, yeah, former player assistant GM and his
involvement being the personnel like there's nothing wrong with drinking
a beer after a game one the public appearance where
you were for one and then the other thing, and
I'm like, well, now we know fast forward what the
(09:34):
situation is that may have been put more infasities on
what Feely did saying, look, dude, there's a problem with
you doing not saying you're alcoholic, but you're conditioning.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's a problem. The worst kept secret Dallas is he
drinks too much. I mean, you know, it'll be the
worst kept secret in LA.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But I think, you know, if they can get him
right as far as that kind of stuff goes, and say, hey, look,
in order to be dedicated to the craft, in order
to get your game to where you need it to be,
you're gonna have to give up some of these stuff
until after you've done playing.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
But I think Ben this might have been the kick
in the dairy year that he needed.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Might be you know, hey, you're shaking things up. They
can't do.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That kind of stuff anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
They'll go on to be the LA Lakers instead of
the La Lebron's after this year is really it was
really the point of what.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I was trying to get to these because you know,
they went ahead and did the.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Brown any thing, and you know, Brown is mad Ad
did all that kind of stuff, and it's like, Okay,
well gave you that, and you didn't bring me my
hardware that you know exactly, So now it's time for
me to Now it's time for me to get on
the other thing. I play has made some pretty good
moves for the Lakers. All said done. I mean, the
connect draft pick was good. They've He's gone through and
turned some middling players into much better players.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Uh, in terms of wheeling and dealing and everything.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I'm not saying he's the NBA's Howie Roseman, but uh,
he has certainly I think improved the Lakers overall. I
still don't think the Lakers beating the Nuggets in a
seven game series, even with Luca and Lebron and what
do they do it inside?
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You know, I mean this is they're just gonna everybody's
camped in the three point line. They're just giving it up.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Under the bucket.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I mean, I guess for me, and I'll ask you
the listeners, you tell me what you think.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Grant chime in as well. The fact that one.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
They kept this silent and also no other team was
in the running for Luca, and I'm thinking if it
was opened up, you had more more people. Me living
here in Denver, I was a little salty because I wanted,
in my mind, Calvin Booth to go after a guy
like Luka Doncik and you put Luca with Jokic.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Could you Could you imagine Nuggets fans if you had,
even if you had to give.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Up a first rounder Jamal and MPJ, if you had
Nikola Jokic with Russell Westbrook and Luka Doncik.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I know it may not sound that great to other.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
People, but to me, I was upset because Calvin Booth
didn't have a chance to put his foot in the trade.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Pat Jokic Lucas sounds like a rock festival just saying
would be.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
The international stars of the NBA, though, well, right, we've done.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Both of the best players from overseas. Yeah, all the
euro eyeballs would.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Be everyone would be wearing Nuggets skier overseas.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
And this is why I'm upset that they can't pick
so quiet and they didn't open it up to all
the teams in the league, because I know Calvin Booth
likes younger players.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Michael Malone, on the other hand, that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I I question how they're gonna do the lineup now
because the Lakers, I mean, Dorian Finney Smith has come alive.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He's been a player.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Now he's playing as a six man. They played him
as a three, but they kind of played as a
six man. What are you going to do a connect?
Are you leaving him at the two? You're taking him
off the court to put Doc on there Hachimura.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
To me, it almost feel like you have to put
Luca at the three. Uh and and bring ruy in
off the off the bench is kind of what it
feels like to me.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
But I mean, I don't really know what you do here.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Let's see, Okay, you're thinking line up situations, which which
you know JJ Reddy should think about. But at the
same time, it's like, okay, well, obviously it's one basketball.
I mean, well, Lebron knowing as no there's no a
d in a game, well, he looked to defer to
(13:12):
Luca at times. But because Lebron, even though he's the
older player, he still can get downhill and get to
the bucket, so he still can penetrate and dish and
give it to Luca because Luca can shoot from anywhere.
That's one thing right now, It's like Luca's game is
like that old school Larry Bird and Michael Jordan McDonald commercial,
off the backboard, off the window, nothing.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
But net are you playing?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I mean, are you playing Luca at the one?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
How are you configuring this lineup with these guys?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Because you don't want to take Connect out of the
starting lineup? You kind of don't want to take really,
but you have to. And your weakest link is at
the point. So do you just put him up there
at the point and have him walking it up?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And I mean, because that's Lebron's deal.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Well, the thing about it that you can if you're J. J. Reddick,
you can mix it up. You have some things, some
pieces that you can interchange. Now when you think about
you know your point guard, Neither Luca or Lebron is
that ideal type god, but they can do it.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
So I would put Luca at the three position, right.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I mean that makes the most sense to me, Yes,
because you're running Lebron at the four. Jackson Hayes will
be your only interior you know whatever, He's there to
be a shot alter or not anything else. So that
way you could keep connect on the court, but that
at least Austin reeves at the one you know, what
do you I mean that needs an upgrade At the
end of the day, I still don't think, you know,
and then you get dfs coming off the pont. I
(14:36):
don't think that the Lakers are wired for a championship
run with this, but it's gonna be interesting to sort
of see how they work these lineups.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
The only thing that is interesting for us to see,
like you said, the lineup who's going to get the
ball with the last second shot.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
That's the thing that's important.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Kay can Lebron at this stage of his career just
kind of acknowledge, you know what, my time here in
the NBA and with the Lakers are over.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Now. I got to defer to Luca, but here's a
bigger thing for me. Now, the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Are sound with someone in the situation, not exactly like
the Nuggets, but someone like the Nuggets, because the Nuggets
their whole thing is well, their best defense is their offense.
But it comes a point where you're going to have
to show that you can stop people. And that's been
a problem for the Denver Nuggets. Because we talked with
no Bruce Brown, no k c P guys like that,
(15:26):
and Aaron Gorn is your so called defensive specialist.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Is your defender?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I mean that's all you got, really, I mean, Russell
Russ Westbrook will make an effort every now and again,
all that kind of stuff, but really you don't have.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I mean, you just don't have.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You've got a defensive head coach and a bunch of
guys who don't play defense.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
And that's the thing that frustrates the heck out of
Coach Malone.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Might have to start calling the Nver Nuggets because there's
no d Hey man.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Hey and coach Malone, well, he would like to see
something different. But I'll say this, this move with the
Lakers and the MAVs, for me, it impacts the Nuggets
because the Nuggets are still in the West. They're gonna
have to find some way to get better defensively, especially
(16:10):
on that second unit, because you got to figure out
some point. Luca's gonna figure it out with the Lakers
and they're gonna add more players.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Brent and Peyton Watson gonna be out at least a
month is what they're saying. By the way, here's the
projected starting five seven players tonight. Well here's a projected
starting five for the Lakers. Since the Luka Donchets trade Luca,
Austin Reeves, Ruey had Tamara, Lebron James, and Jackson Hayes.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So they're put they're putting connect off the bench, which
I think is a mistake. I think, you know in
any situation that Reeves is the weak link and you've
got two guys that can bring the ball up, both
in Lebron and in Luca.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
To me pull Reeves off, Uh, you know. But that's
the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
They they got options for the second unit that when
you look at the nuggets they that they don't have.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
And some of the teams they don't have.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's that's the that's the advantage that they're going to
was that they are definitely deeper as far as that
as far as that goes, you can try where y.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Out, play a little bit more of tempo and try
where ye out. But you know, what, do I know
connect to me? I mean, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I guess if you've got Luca in there, it's it's
becomes a redundant skill set. So having him come off
the bench, maybe maybe after a second of thought, might be,
might be all right?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
By the way, the Nuggets in the you were talking
about the projected lineups, the Nuggets and the Pels playing
the night, like seven starters between the two teams are out.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I think it is. Didn't they just play.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
On Saturday too, out on New Orleans something like that?
Nuggets beat them by like thirty five.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, it was absolutely ridiculous. So anyway, we got a
Pike show tonight.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We'll get you up with a Rod live from New
Orleans in a little bit. I want to talk about
the other big trade that went down. And then we
got players in the it's not just NBA trade season.
We got NFL trades, players asking.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
To be traded. Teams look at the trade guys, get
into all that. We come back. This is Brocos Country
to night right here on Kawai.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
So you'll getch You and Luca are both ball dominant
and slow euro As we lack athleticism on the perimeter,
hence the bad three D.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
First of all, the logistical aspects of pulling off something
like that, obviously you got to think about them, and
for me, you figure something out. If you have a
Bud either MPJ and another pick or Jamal.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
And you can say that both Nikola Jokic and Luka
a ball dominate type of guys. But I've seen these
two guys play in an All Star Game and you
may say, well, that's not a larger sample size, which
is not massive, but seeing how these two guys interacted
on and off the court in the All Star Game
(18:43):
where you know, this'scoring one hundred and forty four points,
I would like to think that they would find a
way to make that work. Because you can say they
have slow games, they're not as athletic, but the idea
is that if one guy knows how the other guys plays,
that's not to say that it wouldn't work. And for me,
I would have loved to see both of those guys
(19:04):
play together in a Denver Nuggets uniform.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I think we all would love to see those two
play together just because I think it'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
But you know, the end of the day, it is
what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
He's with the Lakers now and that's kind of now
that goes. I. Yeah, I don't know how he would
I don't know if he would solve the Nuggets defensive problems.
Going to tell you what, you have both those guys
playing offense for you, you might not need them.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Once again, that has been the Nuggets.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
You know, identity from a defensive perspective, our defense is
our offense. You got two guys who can share the ball.
Both are great perimeter shooters. Give that international flair to it.
And then when you talk about Denver being a small
basketball market, now it opens you up from an international standpoint.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
That's the way that I'm looking at it. Obviously is
not going to happen.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I would have loved to have the Nuggets have an opportunity. They,
like other NBA teams, did not have to have the
abilieve to be a part of the trade. But they're
gonna have to deal with this one way or the other.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Yeah, they are the other big trade of course there
Fox to the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
What did you think of that trade?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I love that trade. That's another player that I was like, ooh, man,
I would love to see in the Nuggets uniform.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Aaron Fox can't create his own shot anytime he's played
against the Nuggets. He's the type of guy that would
constantly push the pace and put the fenders on their
heels and still get the end one and he's a
perimeterve shooter.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, I mean, obviously this makes Chris Paul sit down.
But you know at that point, at that point, now
you got Wemby and Fox.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
As a as a starting point here to rebuild this
thing back out. And that's a pretty good starting point
to build this thing back out.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Why do you think it makes Chris Paul set I
think he played Aaron Fox as a two guard. We
could he could share point guard responsibility. Yeah, keep Chris
Paul's leadership on the floor. This trade scares me more
for the Nuggets chances of a championship run in the
next couple of years, more than the Luca or adep
moving to separate teams because I think Daron, I mean
(21:15):
Wemby in his second year as playing unreal, Aaron Fox
is a playmaker.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
This is the future of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
But here's the thing also.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Too, You think about the ability to attract other guys,
and with the NBA, I mean, you're not gonna have
this like like the Big Three, right, with the contracts
being what they're going to be, You're not gonna be
able to have that.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
So you're gonna have to have guys who.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Coming in looking to take kind of margin of deals
to play with guys like that. And then also you
and San Antonio. You know how much money you save
in San Antonio?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
No that from California. To look.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
The problem with that though, is if you because you
do say Chris Paul dout Is snarre, you're not sitting
down Devin Vassel.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
He's the second leading scorer.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah. Well, and the worst case scenario, you have Chris
Paul as your backup point guard, right, and.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That that's really what this comes down to. So are
you sitting Stefan Castle or Chris Paul?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You're probably sitting Chris Paul in this scenario running with
a three guard lineup that has Harrison par Harrison Barnes
and Wenby down low.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
But that's that's that's not bad.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
And once again, Chris Paul knows where what stage he
is in his career.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
He's trying to win the championship.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
He took that role with the Warriors exactly if they
tell him, look, man, this is the best thing for us,
and you can be that court general coming off the
bitch to lead that group. Fine, I mean, Klay Thompson,
you know who was that dude in Golden State, right, I.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Mean he had to come off the bitch. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I mean, to me, Chris Paul is the one. You
have to sit down here. It just it just doesn't
make sense any other direction the West. Well, who's gonna
I mean, I'm telling you that that.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I think you're right, Grant. I think I think that
trade is probably more scary for the Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I mean, if you look at the depth that they've
got there, I mean, Kelton Johnson comes off the bench
for them already. Now I've got Chris Paul of that
bench as well, you know, and there's there's a bunch
of names that I think most basketball player, most most
basketball fans may not be as familiar with, but that
that team is pretty loaded. They've they've got a good,
a good solid core that runs nine, maybe maybe even
(23:25):
ten deep.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Okay, think when you really think about it, think about
what the Spurs have done over the past two years.
After Jenoblee and Tim Duncan right Tony Parker, they were
just kind of left for dead.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Pop is just trying to use the last couple of
years of his career to just kind of bring them alive.
But now they get Wimby now be alive once again.
It reminds me of the whole philosophy. And when you
think about the Spurs, it's okay, we're gonna get international players,
We're gonna get well rounded, veteran players. We're gonna get
maybe even some players who teams fill are over the heel. Well,
(24:03):
we're going to find a way to get them to
play together co cohesively.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
And that's what the Spurs were.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, And I mean, as long as Pop stays healthy,
it's not like he forgot how to coach.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
He just hadn't had much talent on that roster. He's
got plenty of talent.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Now, Yes, plenty talent that can really push the plate pace,
spread the floor. They can get your buckets, they can
block shots, they gets your rebounds for me, sign me
up for.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
The West is so interesting now?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
And then I was seeing something about the possibility of
the Sons thinking about trading Kadmy.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Feel like they might have hit their ceiling and they
might need to move that in order to man There's
a lot of wheeling.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Deal in here at the end.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Also on the NFL side, which we'll get into here
in a little bit. Miles Garrett puts out a letter
today in which he tweaked his general manager too, suggesting
that he wants to be trade that suggesting basically demanding
a trade from Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
The Rams.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Cooper Cup put out that they're Rams are exploring trading him.
It's boy, it's it's wheeling and dealan season. It's not
even the Super Bowl yet. Yeah, put the money in
the bag.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I like the fact of mals Garrett saying, Look, he's
realizing that his talent is being wasted in Cleveland and
he wants out. And Cooper Cup is on the opposite side,
he realizing that, you know what, They're moving in a
different direction. The Rams new Cooper Cup is Pookinnakua and
(25:30):
he is He's won a Super Bowl, so now he's
trying to find another home where maybe he can be
more competitive, he can get more touches right in a
particular offense, would you? And I don't want to make
this specific for the Denver Broncos. I don't want to
be but do you think that there's a team.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Out there for a guy like you know, Cooper Cup?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Oh, there absolutely is. I'm sure that there's somebody out
there that says, Hey.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Thirty two year old receiver who's played in the total
of what twenty games over the last two seasons, you know,
and gets paid twenty what twenty five million dollars a year?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Bringing that on, Great, you're gonna like this. Zach Taylor
was once in Los Angeles with the Rams.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
T Higgins leaves. Now you bring a Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Oh man, with Joe Burrow's accuracy, Cooper Cup on those
choice routes, you got Jamar Gooing deep.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
That's a great replacement.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Fantasy owners, beware who died.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Ben doesn't want him in Denver. I'll take him in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yes, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
It's eighteen games over the last three seasons, declining production,
hasn't had a hasn't really had a good season since
twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Hit the Tripper crown, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Season in twenty twenty one and then nothing after that
because he had injuries.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Poking the cool came along is part of a bro
if he's getting injured and get.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Produced for him, I know, but I'm telling you what.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You know what you know?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Who else would love him? I know Adam Peters will
love him.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Mine to Washington, right, maybe to pair with Miles Garrett.
Bring him in too, m How do you like that?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Ben?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Wait, bring Miles pair with Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
You talk about Miles Garrett and Cooper Cup to Washington.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I don't know about Cup, but I do think Miles Garrett,
if he gets traded, I believe that's where it would go.
We'll see a cup thing here, though, that sounds like
a trained wreck.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Hen speaking of wrecks about to dave O Brian check
out with.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Trapp obviously open a night down in New Orleans and
Nick Sirianna, head coach for the Philadelphia Eagles, who was
standing up there was sitting sitting down rather and he's
kind of fielding interviews and talking. Then all of a sudden,
this shadowy figer comes from his left and just puts
a nice wet one on the side.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Of his face. Right now, I know a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
But I'm not doing anything like that, right A good handshake?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
How you doing and dabbing somebody up?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
But Chad Johnson just unexpectedly just walked up to him
pecked him on the side of the face.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I don't know, maybe they got that got a relationship,
you know.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
They probably do know each other in passing or whatever
like that. But there's a time and the place for everything.
That was neither the time nor the place.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So the same thing you told me when I walked
up on you and kiss you have the cheap you
know about that?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It's weird? Yes?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yes, what's the name of that bar out of the
man hole?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
No, it's called Chippolet I believe it's shipholt Ley according
to dudes.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, listen to the dudes on Dudess podcast.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
No, that's where I.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Got the idea. Five six, six, nine zeros a text line.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Appreciate, Uh, the texts that are coming in three or three,
says Jordan Clarkson, would be a much cheaper version of
Daron Fox. I mean, nah, there's the poor man's diet,
there's the poor.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Man's and I guess I don't know. Yeah, what kind
of comparison is that?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
No, I don't know about that, man, No, come down
with something else.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, you always talk a bit about the the Raiders.
We talk about the AFCB and tough. The a SCU
West just got really tough. Of course they hired Pete
Carroll as the head coach. Listeners this show knew that
was coming for about a month now, I guess. But
they brought in Chip Kelly as the offensive coordinator, and
(29:08):
that fascinates me.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I knew Chip was.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Getting a lot of NFL looks, both in Tampa and
in Houston.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
He winds up with the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
And to me, that is fascinating that that's fascinating pairing
of the two of those there.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Obviously Carol very familiar with Chip Kelly. Oh Man.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I just the Raiders are getting better. They don't have
the personnel, but they're getting better on the coaching side
of things, and it's it's interesting to me that that's
the higher Does any of that scare you guys at all?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That did bringing in a coaching staff like that?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Well, for me, yes, because when you talked about it
being a possibility after everything that we heard about all
these other individuals taking the Raiders' job, right, and you
said that it's probably gonna be Carol, at the end
of the day, for me, it was like, oh wow,
now you got two coaches with league experience, and you
(30:03):
got Chip Kelly, who did a heck of a job,
you know with Ohio State and the way that their
offense ran. So he's familiar with those players coming out,
So you got to figure that he's going to go
in that room and he's going to talk to them
and say.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Hey, listen, we need to go get this player. But
really quickly. Let me tell you.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
So the Raiders have a first, a second, two thirds,
a fourth, a fifth to three sixes, and a seventh
round pick. They're gonna look to load up. So that's
gonna put a lot of pressure on a lot of
teams in this particular division that the AFC West, and
it's going to force the Broncos to go out and
try to really get better players in free agency but
(30:41):
also in the draft as well.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, I mean I came back down in Amobile. Scuttle
butt was that if you're a Shadora fan, there's really
two teams here. It's the Giants and the Raiders, and
really the teams that love him. And then there aren't
a whole lot of teams that love him, but those
are the two that do. That's gonna be interesting because
they're both, you know, they're both kind of right there,
cam Ward.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
You know, I don't know if I'm buying the Titans
love or not.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
We'll see part of me thinks that they're trying to
get somebody to jump up because I know they love
a Bill Carter. So that's gonna be this This draft
season is gonna be kind of fascinating when you've got
a couple of prospects, guys like Travis Hunter or Abdill
Carter who I think are head and shoulders above the quarterbacks,
and you get those quarterbacks, you know how they are.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
They get pushed up because the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
It's gonna be real interesting top five this year in
terms of the draft, because this also isn't what you
would call a blue chip draft.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
It's fat in the middle.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You got a bunch of guys that normally in a
normal draft will be drafted through the second to the
fourth round, but you really only got about nine, ten
to eleven guys that are blue chip guys that you
had that big first round.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Great on No, and don't forget two years ago when
UCLA destroyed to see you, buffs, who was the first
coach to walk over to Shador Sanders and give him
encourage your words?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Chip Kelly, Chip Kelly, He's seen he's familiar with it.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
That feels like the right you know, I mean it
feels like if you're going to have somebody be a
quarterback in that city in Las Vegas, shdor could be.
I wonder for Broncos fans what that does to them
in terms of the Buffs shoot Door, see you kind.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Of crossover thing there watching him go to the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I mean, it's nothing.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
You in the Raiders uniform you enemy, Yes, you are
the enemy if you're in that uniform.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Anthony Rodriguez is down there in New Orleans at the
Super Bowl all week.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We check in with him. We come back Broncos Country,
Ka
Popular Podcasts
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.