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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
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there we go, too easy, Dick. You were listening to
the Carry Sports too earlier. Benny Fowler was on Nice
(00:39):
to Nice to see Benny again, and you had some
bones to pick some things that they said.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, there were some things that they were talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
This whole Miles Garrett situation and Garrett Wilson, and I
want to make sure that maybe those guys are listening.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You can probably correct me.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Whatever, But from what I was listening to, it was
a conversation in regards to Garrett Wilson and the receivers
suggesting or demanding to be more involved in the offense.
They may do it by attitude, and Vinny was talking
about he played with OBJ and OBJ would get frustrated
(01:18):
that he was not being more involved in the offense.
And the idea was like, Okay, well, now we don't
really want those types of guys on our teams. It
seemed like, and it's to be paraphrasing this part that
me and me guys are thinking about them themselves. An
idea was like in Sean Payton's offense, you know, Bevinny
was mentioned about, you know, kind of distributing ball equally around,
(01:40):
and I really thought, I was like, no, that's not
my perception of what I would want if I'm a GM,
I'm a coach, my offensive coordinator of a wide receiver
coach war importantly, if I'm a teammate, I want that
dude who's a doll, who wants the ball all the
time and when he's not getting it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
He's a little upset.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I don't want the passive guy who is Okay, well,
you know what, I'll get the ball every now and again. No, no, no,
it's not the same that you have to be disruptive
to the team. But you gotta have that attitude where
you want to be that guy. Because when you think
about Sean Payton, he always talks about.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Having that joker or not having that joker.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
That guy who's demanding the ball all the time, that's
the guy who's the impact player. That's the guy that
the opposing defense has to worry about constantly because they know,
even if they double team you, you're gonna get the
rout because they're gonna feed you. So this whole concept
about you know what, I don't want that guy. No,
I want that guy on my team. I'm with you
(02:36):
on that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You need some dogs, you know, you need some guys
that are one want one that are choir boy you
know type personalities that have a little edge to them.
And you and I are both were competitive people, So
I like, you know, I understand that mindset.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Grant are you do you love to win or hate
to lose? Hate to lose? Same here like I.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Losing, losing, that's the thing is so like that I
want guys to get Now. The first thing somebody's gonna
say when you say that, that powding thing is gonna bring.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Up Jerry Judy and I'm like, well, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Jerry Judy is pouting because he didn't get the ball
early and because like you didn't want to block and
all this other s.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
That's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I'm talking about like like Odell back up, like Keyshawn Johnson,
uh Michael Thomas who's Keyshaw's cousin or whatever back in
New Orleans, like something, give.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Me the damn ball, like I want. I want somebody
that wants it, and I want somebody that's upset where
they're not able to produce. But see, I wasn't like
most people who were upset.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And had this uh vendetta against Jerry Judy because you
you will come from a school like Alabama and put
up those numbers that you're putting up and your first
round draft toys without wanting to be that guy. And
then in Jerry's case, he's watching, you know, justin Jefferson,
he's watching Deebo Samuews, right, he's watching Jamal and Chase
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all put up numbers and he's thinking that he can
do the same thing, and look what happen.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Like the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Part of weighs with him because the marriage just wasn't
working and sometimes that's the thing you have to do
with But he goes to Cleveland, not with the premier quarterback,
and he makes the Pro Bowl, right, and it wasn't
just oh the game against the Broncos and Levi Wallace
that he put up numbers.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Now the ball exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
So the idea is that you want a guy, or
at least I want a guy who wants the ball,
and if that means he needs to be a little
vocal to do it, fine, as long as you come
through when we need it the most. So I'm okay
with having that guy having that attitude. What I'm not
okay with is somewhat having a passive guy.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Who's okay not putting up numbers.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And once again, it's about ball distribution, being a teammate,
but in key situations, I mean put in basketball terms
for you, Grant and a listening audience, right, do you
want that guy who's the corck is winding down he's
going to defer to someone or he's got to the ability, right,
he's got the you know that that Jenna Saquah.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
That's my shot. Yes, do you want to take this out? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You know I want Robert or in that moment, big
shot or big Shot Bob.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
And I'm with you on that, I do. It does
feel like we sort of need one.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Of those somewhere because we don't have that guy right now.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
With all due respect to Courtland Sudden, he's a little passive, uh,
you know, and that suits his personality type.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And that's not to be.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Uh and it's not to disrespect Courtland Sun at all,
but you know, he's not a he's not a selfish
give me the dan balguy. And you do need some
of those guys. You need a little bit of everything.
You bake a cake, but if you do it with
one ingredient, it's not gonna taste right.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
You need all the different.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Degrees, and you know the kind of cake even the
chocolate frosting. The chocolate frosting is bad for you in
both but it sets a cake off when you put
it on there right right.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
And listen, it's okay to have a couple of guys
here and there who may not be that vocal.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Right, and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
But for me, I'm always gonna go back to the
dev'sit side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That's why I played. That's where a coach.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I want a bunch of those twenty fifteen no fly
zone guys.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, you need to pull some of those guys.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
You need a dog's gonna snatch up chains, make it
up a little.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Bit, do you know what?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yes, Like that's good, getting in, getting in your opponent's
head like that can be you know, can be good,
can be beneficial. And having somebody that has that that
in the locker room, you know that the standard is
gonna get enforced because you've got a bunch of passive people.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You can talk about standards. Who's the enforcer, who's.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
The person that lock who's gonna look you in the
eyes and say you didn't hold up your end today.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But when you offers the coordinator, you say, you know what,
we need a big catch. Who's gonna be that guy,
guy who's coach?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Throw me when I when I played, put me on
a slam, put me on a fly, and throw me
the ball when I play here in Denver, right.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Rod Smith was that guy.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And even when when Ashley Lee was drafted younger guy,
the idea was that who's our veteran guy that we
need someone to make a big catch a fifty.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
To fifty ball. Who are we going to?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And the Broncos had that in Tim Patrick exactly. Tim
Patrick had that edge to him. Tim Padrick was like,
the football's a one man cold. To Tim Patrick, I'm
the old one catching. I'm the only one coming down
with it.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Because that same the type of mentality goes both ways
as far as being a pass catching receiver but also
being a rum block receiver as well. I want that
guy with that attitude. Like I've always said this, if
if you could put Dez Bryant's mentality and the body
of some of the current days wide receiver, some of
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these guys would be unstoppable. Because even though Daz Brian
had a way of rubbing people the wrong way, but
in my mind, you rub them the wrong way for
the right reason.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Look at the greats they all did.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Look at Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Shadows, Josenko, I go.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
On and on.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So the great receivers they all had that gad compared
with Michael Michael Rod.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I think a component to him.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Uh you know, it's having that having that that mentality,
that's my ball, get back there and throw it to
me now.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And we we we need. I feel like we need
some of that. I do.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I do feel like we need a little bit of
selfishness in the room. I do feel like we need,
you know, something like that. And I, again, with all
due respect to the guys that we have, love Vele
and I think he's got a bright future ahead of him.
You know, I always love what Courtland's done here. Uh,
you know, thus far those kinds without with.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
All due respect, we don't have that guy like like,
who's you know, who's going in there? Coach? No, coach,
just throw me the ball. I got it.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But then I don't think that you were saying anything
in my opinion those guys, Yes, but you're not saying
anything disrespectful to the current guys on the roster.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
All you're saying is just the admitting that you need more.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, if you want bo to get to where he
can't go get to with his ability.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And we're watching Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And Kansas City, and Kansas City is in this division
and his conference and not going in were you just
want some other guys had those guys.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Michael Thomas was that guy. Jimmy Graham was that guy.
Jeremy Shockey was that guy. Marcus Colston was that guy.
But Colston wasn't his vocal okay, but but but shocky
he was.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He was Jerry Cook Cook right.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I'm not saying that you have to be a
guy that have to be so much in your face
that you're gonna, you know, be a detriment to your team.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You're gonna be a drive killer.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But it's like, no catch the ball, right, And if
you want to talk trash, you tell him, you know what,
I'll be right here when you come back.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You don't have to dance and.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Celebrate, but you let people know, you know what, it's
gonna be a.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Long night for your Benjamin all Bright, and keep keep
letting them know and let him know, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And if you're running the ball directly in my direction,
it's gonna be a yeah. Well, if you run the
ball in your.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Direction, no toe needed, Ryans And remember the typ.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Five six, six times zero is the text line. You
guys wanna get involved.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The conversation would you pay Courtland Sun twenty four million
a year for the next three years. That's that's roughly
what the free agency number is probably for him. Would
you pay him or would you let him walk and
see what VALA's got?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
What am I the options?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
What am I doing a free agency I mean, you
can't get you can't afford t Higgins. That's gonna be
over freight dollars a year. Cooper Kupp that's you can't
afford that. Plus you're gonna spend draft picks to go
get it. Like, what do you I mean he's a
slot guy. That's not even that's that. I just I
don't I don't understand the fascination there, other than the
fascination with the name old man.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I gotta stop you there.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I gotta stop you right there, even though like three
years removed from being a dude.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Okay, but you're saying that he's not an outside receiver.
Can't tell me.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Let's be totally honest about this situation. If you are
a good, crafty offensive coordinator, you're going to get your
number one wide receiver off the ball because most likely
he's gonna be doubled or they're gonna put their top
corner on him, so you gotta move him around. And
the whole triper crowd with Cooper Cup was just kind
of generated based on Sean McVay finely created ways to
(11:06):
get him open. Now, now, Cooper Cup has never had
that breakaway speed, but I tell you what he's like
Keenan Allen and Keenan Allen is not that explosive.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But man, no, it's how to create these.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Dude's russ some great route knows how to drop the
hips and hit the cut, you know, and that's all
you need.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well, but the point is.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That he's had declining production for three years and he's
not the same guy healthwise.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I mean he's missed eighteen games over the last three years.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Like, if you're cool giving up your receiver missing forty
percent of your season, that's probably what you.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well tell me this would would you rather have put
a young would you rather put a young.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Vley in that spot?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And it's just just kind of stripping down no money involved, Yeah,
but you saw enough. Would you rather put a young
Vley in that spot? Or a veteran who's crafty like
a Cooper Cup? Well, I mean in his prime, Cooper Cup,
I'm taking that.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
But if you're dif for taking Cooper Cupp Now, like
I saw enough from Valley last year, Let's let's do it.
I saw enough out of him. Look, let's make this
the guy. Wait, I'm sorry what I saw enough other
him last year? Put him at the X spam Wait.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Wait, wait, wait are you suggesting that Broncos make Veile
the number one option?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Is that making the ex receiver? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Nah, no no no, no, no, no no no, I
don't do it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
No, I'm here for Well, let's go over your other options.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Gee Higgins and Chris Godwin. You can't afford keen On Allen?
Does he come with a wheelchair? I mean, how old
is he at this point? Amari Cooper who couldn't do
anything for the Bills? Uh, Darius Slayton, you're making him
number one? Marquise Brown, Stefan Diggs, you might need a walker,
if not a wheelchair.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Well you know what, I'm not even looking on anyone's roster.
Thanks for giving me that rundown. But I'm just giving
I'm just giving you the free agent. Why these are
free agents?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
See you giving me free agents? I only want to
I don't want to go free agents, you're a trade
for something.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no no, noody no
what Yeah, you draft someone, But I'm talking about you,
talking about Bailey. I'm talking about dudes currently under bron
Goes roster. For me, my number one receiver would be
Marvin mimm Well.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
He'd be my backside, he'd be my Z. But no, no,
why because he's a Z receiver. I mean, man, he's
your fastest guy, but he's a Z like you.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
No, I would put if the Broncos part of the
ways with Courtland, I'm making Marvin Mims my number one.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well I'll make it.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I'll make Vla maybe my slot receiver, and then I'll
get a young wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
This is just draft because in the.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Slot, for me, all you need is a guy who
understands the spacing.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Just run, get open. That's why I said Cooper cup
not thinking about.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Money, but he would be a great in that role.
So the Broncos, any of the teams, So put Valley
at the action single, put the go draft tass, put
him in the slot, and then put bars on the outside.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Now you got speed for days, and you got you
got a possession guy over.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Here at the action, which is what Sean likes.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You go back and look at how he runs that
offense and he spams a slant to a possession next receiver,
Marcus Colston, Michael Thomas.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
That's what those guys were.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, but but this offense needs to be more explosive.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Well you that you're put ms on the back side
and get him open. Yeah, I'm not. I mean I can't.
I mean, I like you, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I'm just I've seen this offense so much, like I
know the Orchet type or each little spot.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I love what Veley was in training camp and what
it appeared as though he could be.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But once again, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I wouldn't make him my focal point of my offense.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'm making him my start next and I'm not looking back.
I'm like I.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Drafted the guy. He showed out, he bawled out in camp.
If it had been for a frequency one, I mean
that that's nebulous, that's whoever's get the target.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Honestly, you go out there and get that get the
right tight end, and that might be wide receiver one.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Now that's a whole different conversation within of itself. You
talk about the tight end now now now we're now
we're talking. But based on what the Broncos have right now,
my wide receiver won you know, getting him involved, not
on those little back jet squats, orbit plays or those screenplays.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I want him going vertical.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I want to see Marvin Mims going vertical to utilize
the speed and even if that takes to safety in
the corner of the mix, it opens up the middle
of the field for a tight end or Devon Vley.
But I but I mentally, I wouldn't say that Veyle
would be my wide receiver one.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I'm saying I would make it my starting X and
whoever gets the most catches winds up being wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
That no, No, you get to a point where you
gotta feature a guy.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, I mean he was your most efficient receiver last
year in terms of balls throwing his direction that got caught.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It was him that he was the dude, Yeah, because
he was running those kind of late dig routes over
the middle field. Yes, but now we're talking about explosion.
You want guys who are a bona fide.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I'm here for it, I hear you. I'm just saying,
like of what we've got right now.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Your options are Mims in male and I love Mems
at the Z and Vale at the axe. Not not
necessarily in terms of wide receiver one or two.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
We got time to figure this one out. With this,
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What the allegations against Justin Tucker were a surprise, according
to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. Ten massage therapists now if
ques Justin Tucker of inappropriate behavior. The Ravens kicker flatly
denied all the allegations in a statement on Twitter. NFL
said last week he would look into the allegations, which
it says it was unaware of until the Baltimore Banner
(16:58):
contacted League for comment before pblishing its story, and THEFOL
commissioner Roger Goodell, was asked Monday about Tucker allegedly using
inappropriate sexual contact with massage therapists. He said this first
reaction for the News was surprise. Bucker could potentially short
circuit this whole thing by getting settlement agreements that include
confidentiality clauses That seemed unlikely. The NFL has no suboena power,
(17:21):
so it gathering information. You know, it's just continued upon
that this was the story.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I first got way to this story down there in
Mobile early in the week and actually left the second
practice that afternoon to go start running it down, and
then the Baltimore Banner, which had a two weekend start
on me, wound up beating me to the punch on it.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I will tell you, I don't care what Justin Tucker
put out there.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
There's probably another ten twelve ish women waiting to figel out,
feel the situation out, whether or not they should come forward.
Most of them just don't want their names out there
in public, and that's why they haven't done it.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
This was a widely known thing for years.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I actually physically confirmed that multiple women had notified the
Ravens organization prior to twenty eighteen, saw it with my
own eyes. So I don't know what it is he's
tried to deny here. I don't know what it is.
It's that they're going to get away with here. But
Justin Tucker he did that.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Well, unless these women, those involved decided to come forward,
the truth is not going to come to light. And
if it comes to pass that someone in the Ravens
organization or multiple people knew about this and chose not
to some kind of way streamlined and pull.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Justin in and talk to him, that's gonna be a problem.
And the league is gonna.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Have to suffer another investigation, especially one similar to Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
And then now, how many other women are gonna come
out of the woolworks and say, well, you know, he
did to me too as well.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
But I know it's very difficult to be a victim,
but sometimes you can help out other people.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
But if you don't speak up.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
In this situation, someone who did some horrible things, and
I don't, I'm not I don't want to accuse Justin
Tucker or anything because I don't know, but that's only
one way to get to the bottom of that line
of it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Someone's got to speak up. Were you guys surprised when
this story broke?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I was. I was shocked because when you hear about
Justin Tucker, you don't hear about him in this particular way.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
You hear about him being.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You know, to solid, stand up guy, the opera singer,
all of these things.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, I was shocked, man, And I think his struggles
on the field kind of are making a little more
sense this past year with that going on.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
That's why I found out they're getting divorced. That happened
during the season, so sort of, you know, this all
starts to come together with sort of a bow two.
Roger Goodell says the NFL could start a professional flag
football league. The NFL is considering turning to flag football
into a profession sport.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Missional Roger Gudell said.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Today the league is considering the establishment of a pro
flag football league, or potentially both a men's flag league
and a women's flag league. The NFL has been pushing
flag football as way of spreading the game around the
world to women and girls. The Pro Bowl obviously has
been replaced by a flag football game, and the NFL
was instrumental in getting flag football approved as an Olympics
sport for men and women in twenty twenty eight. Several
NFL players said they'd like to play for Team USA
(20:24):
in twenty twenty eight, but Goodell also noted that several
NFL players from outside the United.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
States are hoping to compete in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
They have a lot of international players would like to
represent their country, and beyond representative country, they could be
playing professionally.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
What do you think about the idea of a flag
football professional league? A? Would you watch that?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Well, mom's waining for B. You're gonna give you B right,
I'll hit you with BE in a minute. Okay, yes,
I would watch that with B.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Well, if they start putting out franchises, we'll say we
get the ownership group together.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Ah man, All okay, we just got hit on the
Super Bowl parlay.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But you know what I think this this things were
already trending in this direction with the idea of flag
football being in the Olympics, and more kids are taken
to it, like because there are kids. And I learned this,
you know, through Chas and being involved with the Broncos
and and you know women's flag football. Here is that
there are a lot of kids who want to play
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the game, but they can't play tackle football. So this
gives them an opportunity to go out there and be
competitive and work that team caaraderie.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
So I'm all for it. I am too. I would
watch it curiosity factor at first, and then if it's stuck,
it's stuck. You know, have you watched some.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Of those competitive NFL network flag football games.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
The guy that's what you know, the quarterbacks from the
you know this Dud's who was talking about I'm better
than Pat Mahomes at this.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
That guy's actually really good. And when they.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Had those guys who were just kind of regular dudes
who play high school football playing against NFL guys, the
NFL guys quickly figured out it was a whole other
level because we're so used through tackling, right, they're just
grabbing flags.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I mean it as a whole.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
If it's a hold, everything you got to contain and corralgey. Yeah,
it's a wildly different different setup. And it's you know,
guys like me, who aren't the biggest.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Guy in the world have a fighting chance. Sorry. A
report earlier Monday.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Indicated NFL owners want to expand its regular season to
eighteen games within the next two to three years, with
a super Bowl schedule set through the twenty twenty sixth
season twenty twenty seven with the earliest the NFL could
seek to add another regular season game. Mister Goodell, though,
said the NFL does not have a timetable for when
that might happen. League and the players Association have not
had formal negotiations about an expanded regular season.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
The move would have to be collectively bargained.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
It all said today, it's something that NFLPA executive Directoroid
Howel and I have had informal conversations about, but there's
a lot of work to be done. We committed in
twenty eleven, we signed a collective bargaining agreement that players
would not only have a say in that, but they
would actually be able to prevent it from happening or
support it happened. We were able to do that, we
moved to seventeen games this twenty twenty one. In the
NFL's played a seventeen game regular season following a three
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game preseason. It also said if we do expand eighteen
regular season games and two preseason games might be a possibility.
We know fans love football, they want more football, but
we have to be incredibly sensitive and smart about the
balance and how we deal with that. You knowed the
twenty twenty four was extraordinary on players' safety and injuries,
with concussions at historically low levels.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Do we want an eighteen game season? Yes? No, that
was fast.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
No, you know they're going to do it, why not
just do it?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
All right?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I didn't want the seventeen games, so I want next
to sixteen. It was perfect whether we wanted. Guy, we
know they want to do it, but I don't. I
don't want it.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
And for me, if they're going to do it, then
that means that you're going to add additional players to
the roster, You're going to add another bye week. And also,
hopefully the NFLPA is smart enough if this comes to
the negotiating tables where they take this into mine that
if you're going to put players in that direction of
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physical harm, you better make sure that you take the
benefits of former players because those corent players are going
to be there one day you up to.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Annie a little.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I think Joe Burrow said it perfectly in a podcast.
I think it was last offseason to expand it to
eighteen games extra by a week, and then the super
Bowl falls on President's Day weekend and everybody gets Monday
off after the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That was my proposal ten years ago that Burrell stole.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
But yes, that's it will only been with. Did you
have receipts for that?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yes? I do. I want to see them there on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yes, I promise you ever seas because I it was
like ten straight years.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I kept banging the table for that.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Then finally I just gave up tweeting it up, tweeting
out the annual tweet.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
However, it was that and trying to get Henry Ellard
in the Hall of Fame. But well, how come.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
When you you had those receipts, you didn't add those
extra benefits for the players.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Well, I mean, there's a lot of stuff to be
worked out, but I definitely have receipts from twenty ten
where I first suggested switching it in.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Going five weeks. Hey, great minds think alike? Did you
say I will produce those for you?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Never asked me for receipts because I will produce them
in full.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So you just put Ben in the same category as Zoberro.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Four.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
He can get on my level some days. Four NFL
linebacker John Hewart.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Former Broncos linebacker John Hewart passed away on January twenty ninth.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
The Broncos announced today Heward was eighty.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Played three seasons with the Broncos, one with the Saints
after Denver Maye heard a fifth round draft choice in
nineteen sixty seven. He started forty one of the forty
two games in which he appeared for Denver from sixty
seven to sixty nine. Played one game for the Saints
in seventy one before moving on to the CFL with
the Montreal Alouettes. Who had had six career interceptions in
his NFL career, returned to his alma mater, the University
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of Maine as an offensive line coach in nineteen seventy four.
Went on to serve as the head coach of Acadia
University in Nova Scotia, leading the Axe Men to the
Canadian National championships in nineteen seventy nine and nineteen eighty one.
Also served as a special team coach of the Chicago
Blitz in eighty three. At eighty four, making coaching stops
at the Main Maritime Academy and the Toronto Argonauts of
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the CFL, he became the first player from the University
of Maine to earn induction into the College Football Hall
of Fame. And really, the only question I had here
is did we know that a Katie University existed?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Exists in Nova Scotia? And their mascot where the Axe Men?
What a what a nickname?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Man?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
How do they not have a tie in for Sprady
odorant' all? Ax Men? I'm just saying, well, the first
thing I was.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Thinking about, I mean, I'm slightly for me with Nova Scotia, uh,
being that I playing in Canada, but I'm thinking more
Scandinavian maybe instead of the Axe Men or about the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, I've been to Nova Scotia twice Halifax in you know,
both times it was cold, gray and you know, can
kind of fogy whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
But yeah, and the.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Axe Man, I just feel like that's what I was like.
Rest in peace of John Herett's family. But the Axe
Men has got to be the great mascot ever and
you got a natural tie in for ex Body spray.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Why did they not? You're right they should have a
sponsorship the.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Nil deals up there in Nova scoti You gotta be
popping right.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Five Miles Garrett. Of course she wrote the letter for
the trade today, Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Trade before the fifth day of the league year would
trigger a thirty nine excuse me, thirty two point nine
to five million dollars cap charge.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I thought the cap hit would be crippling. It's not.
It's just huge.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
On closer examination, the breakdown posted by spot track.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Dot Com looks like the cap charge.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
For a trade before the fifth day of the new
league gear, which would be March sixteenth, would give the
Browns a thirty two point nine to five million dead
money charge for twenty twenty five. Garrett's existing cap number
twenty five is nineteen point seven to two million. Browns
are currently projected to be twenty seven and a half
million over the cap with dead money of thirty nine
point seven that they'll realize significant savings when they restructured
to Shaun Watson's deal again. He currently has a cap
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charge in excess of seventy two million dollars. Most of
Garrett's twenty twenty five cop comes to the form of
an eighteen point five four million option bonus two on
March sixteenth. If he refuses to play, the Browns will
be able to cut recover that money based on the
terms of the payment. It's paid out in equal installments
during the eighteen week regular seasons. They could just simply
withhold it and not have to try to recover it. Regardless,
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the Browns could work their salary cap magic wand trading
Garrett would create a significant but not insurmountable cap complication.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
The Browns already have a significant complication, and the form of.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Corner store players, the side of the team won't be
a contender during the balance of his career. I don't
know if you guys saw the letter that Garrett wrote
where he took a shot at his own general manager
because the general manager and his end of season press
conference had said, you know, Miles is a guy who's
got a ticket, you know, from Cleveland to Canton as
soon as he hangs it up, and in his letter,
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Garrett specifically references that saying going to Canton was never
the focus getting Super Bowls is. What do we think
of the Miles Garrett situation and do you have any guesses.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I've got one on where he winds up well traded.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I know what your guest is and I agree with
and I think good for Miles Garrett man, he's given
everything to that organization, been a dominant player.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Get the hell out of Cleveland while you can't. Well,
this is always a tough situation.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
You draft a guy, hope to develop him, and that
guy's gonna be a cornerstone to your team on offensive defense,
going to be like a Joe Thomas right how long
Joe Thomas was there in Cleveland but doesn't really have
any hard word to.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Show for what a wasted great career exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
And then sometimes you know Cleveland was one of those
places that during my plan time, they say, well that's
my careers go to die. Because you play, you make
some money, but you've never really hit the pinnacle that
you want to reach it in right now, if when
you look at Miles Garrett, he has a lot of
power right now. If this is want to be a
power move for him to get out. We've seen other
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type players and hit FIS caliber do the same thing.
I say, get out, get to a team. You may
not get paid as much money, but at least you're
happy and you still love football.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Excuse me a tough.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
He's a twenty nine year old player going to be
a thirty year old player next year. I mean, he's
still in his prime, but it's gonna be tough. I
think the Commanders ultimately wind up here. They've they've got
the money, they've got the assets, they've got the cap space,
they've got the need, and they've got a connection. Joe
Whitt used to work for the Cleveland Browns back and
I believe it was twenty nineteen in terms of he
was on the defensive staff there for the Cleveland Browns
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at the time.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
So the does a new team have to pay that
that signing bonus or the player option bonus or does
that go away if he goes to another team?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Well, part of the so part of that money goes
to Cleveland has to pay part of it, and they've
got to pay the salary portion of it. So it's
that's why the cap charge hits Cleveland that way, and it.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Goes that way.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
So it's it's just I mean, it's sort of complicated,
but if I write it out, you could you could
sort of figure it out. It's it's it's not that difficult,
but Washington would would take on a big chunk of it.
Six Speak the trades, Cooper Cup announces the Rams are
looking to trade him.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Cups time with the Rams coming to an end.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Monday social media post, Cup announced that the Rams informed
him that they are looking to trade him and we'll
work with him to find the best destination. Like, I
don't agree with the decision. Always believed it was going
to begin and end in La Steel. If there's one
thing that I've learned over the years, there's so many
things that out of your control. That's how you respond
to those things that you will look back on and remember.
A Cup, who's thirty one, was instrumental in the rams
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twenty twenty one championship season, winning MVP of the Super Bowl,
is the AP Offensive Player of the Year, winning the
Receiver Triple Crown with a heart forty five catches, nineteen
forty seven yards and sixteen touchdowns. But injuries have limited
Cups production over the last three season. He played nine
games in twenty twenty two, twelve and twenty three, twelve
and twenty four. Finished the twenty four season with only
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sixty seven receptions for seven hundred and ten yards and
six touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
We've got six passes for ninety yards in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Cup is currently under contract through twenty twenty six, with
a cap number of twenty nine point eight.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Million the next year.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It was a third round pick in twenty seventeen for
the team's first draft picks under head coach Sean McVay.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
There, obviously is with.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Any name, everybody starts talking about all the Broncos need him.
I think, I mean, I'm not in on this, but
what do you think about Cooper Cup and the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Well, I mean, it would be great if you had
a guy like that, but I think it will be
best suited for Cooper Cup and a scheme that he
is quite familiar with. I mean, there's so many you know,
Mike Shanahan cast offs that out there. I mean, I
can see him going to Atlanta Carolina. Also, don't forget
the Minnesota Vikings. There is a guy who's who's played
a lot of football. His numbers have gone down, but
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he's been productive.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yes, yeah, I've still got a little bit left in
the tank, I think, But I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I can't justify spending draft picks and make kind of
money on them. Broncos Countries, Tonight rolls on after this.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I have a tradition down here where I eat a
one third pound booger