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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To a broadcast Country tonight. That's been all bright. Nick
ferguson the Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Steve at Water, the Mustache Hall of Famer Grant Smith.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
That's an interesting T shirt you got on five six
six nine zero next one. I don't think we can
say it on the air. Five six six place say
it on the air, goes it's a band? Is it?
The Nude Party? Oh? I thought you were a a
gentleman's club. I thought he was.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I thought they were giving out T shirts at the
Gentleman's Club or somebody.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Was like, I gotta get one.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
They got a sweet rear.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And a free buffet on Tuesday trying to shrimp.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh man, who's eating food at a gentleman's club.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It's a thing. I swear to It's a thing someone
because I was down there in Dallas, I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I was down there Dallas back in the mid two
thousands and this place I was doing some federal contracting
work at the time, and there was this place that
had it was a gentleman's club. They had a lunch
buffet at steaking lots and the would be people steak lobster,
and I'm like, it's over here away from the buffet.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
No, it's just it's just something that doesn't something Yeah,
sweating Hi.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
He'll go on to landing off with the potatoes. Yes,
body oil, glitter on everything. I just you know what
big show tonight. Steve at Water is here, uh special guests.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
A little bit later, the.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Coach, coach John Pigan'll gonna join us. So it'll be
good to have him back his first time since taking
the commander's job. Get a chance to talk to him
about that season out there Washington, that magical season that
they had. It'd be a lot of fun to catch
up with him. Steve, how you doing, Bud Hey, doing
pretty good? Doing pretty good? Man?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Uh? Man, I was out there for Super Bowl. That
was crazy. That's what I heard you a party, man,
I heard you. Uh you got up to nod to man.
Steve was believe it or not. And this is a
true story.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Steve actually was one of the dancers on stage for
Kederick Lamar.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Okay, I had the mask on. Yeah, yeah, that guy
he was doing like the Yelwaukee's thing.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah that.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
You know, you know, Steve, I would have been I
would have been way off the rhythm and everything.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He was walking. It was a spotlight on Steve. Not
like me.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'm like, oh, those shows off the rails already. I
was it though, I was it the other New Orleans
from the Super Bowl, hob Man, it was.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It was.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It was a great time, and I think everybody felt
safe because man, cars could barely move down in the area,
uh where the game was, and you know, you couldn't drive.
You can walk, you can walk, but you had to
be ready to walk because if you're trying to get
an uber to the stadium, you got to get off
(03:00):
probably a half mile stadium because the roads were blocked
and the traffic was just sat a stat Still, did
they did they put carpet down on some of the
streets or something.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I saw something like Bourbon Street they put some of
the carpet down. They try to get you to tell
y'all tell it yourself a party. Don't. No, no, no,
I didn't. I don't think I didn't go down to
Burbon Street yet.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I don't think I didn't see any carpet on the
on I didn't walk on any carpet anyway.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Okay, somebody said they had carpet on the cobble stone. No, no, no,
there was no carpet. There was a lot of unpaved disproportion.
You say there was did you see it? Did you
go all over the doorand how you know it was
no carpet?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Well, the place is the ut I'm used.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
To going to a little bit more of a dangerous
place than you guys probably go to. I gotta pass
what you're talking about any reasons of my potato.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But I'll tell you what, here's the biggest thing.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
That was.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Crazy. That that's a bit you know what. It was
the safest.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Place I would say in these United States for that well,
probably like military security on every street corner and you
would see these big tank like vehicles with guys four
or five guys hanging on the back end waiting for
something to jump off off, Yes, waiting let it kick.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Off, as they say, let a kick off, right, Yeah,
they I had heard the security down there was was
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
And like when you know when you go to security
here in Denver, you know, and they go through U. T. S.
A and all that and clear if you got clear,
and once you get to the gate, you just get
on the plane. Well before we flew out, they checked
our bags and everything, checked our ID one last time
at the gate.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I never experienced that before because they weren't one hundred
percent COMMENCEDU. We with Steve at Water. No, that's a guy.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well you're way too nice.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Excuse me, sir, you don't fit the height require they're
a little too tall. Stand over here on the time. Yea, no,
take everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, I heard there was a lot of people having
trouble getting out of New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It was out there that Monday. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
That Monday morning I heard was a disaster. I left
seven o'clock Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Okay, I was out. Yeah, by the time the game started,
I was already home. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Western it's like on the plane, but you watch the game. Yes,
there's a game on the plane. On the plane bounce, Okay,
you dipped. I don't know if you guys can stick
around for you know, post Super Bowl party what?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
No, No, never that.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You never do that because that next day everyone is
trying to get out, Like Steve said, getting to the stadium,
but that's.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
When he becaus your flight for the day after that,
the party, you got the recovery day.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Everybody's trying to get out and then you come the
day after No, I said, when I was coming back from.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
London, like everybody else was coming back one day, I
just put it off an extra day. I was like,
all right, the madhouses. Well you're you're still in your
party phase.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yes, he's still Yeah, he don't want to He want
to do it at night and in the morning, so
he's other things. This is this the other thing too.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
You know, Ben is out there with the glow sticks
and everything. You and I are mad. Had to be mad,
you know, he's still like this surg he was. I
don't know, I'm gonna be Coach Beard, aren't. We're trying
to figure out on the show, like.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Who is who from Ted? Did you ever watched Ted last?
I've seen a couple of Okay, we're trying to figure
out who's who on the show. And I was like
I was trying to you know, everybody wants to be
Ted Lasso. But the more I got into him, like,
I'm probably Coach Beard. I'm probably Coach Beard, the weird.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Guy who has like the weird answers at the weird times,
like and then he goes to the you know, he
goes the rave of the club.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
With That's exactly because the coach on Ted Lasso, just
like Ted is talking and the coach is in the
cut somewhere and he just come up with these random
ass facts just like Ben does.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Like what kind of he's like Brandon like, yeah, baby,
think about this. Reminded me of this. But he likes
the party too. I've been though. Yeah, it's his part
of it. I guess I am coach perce, I'll roll
with it.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Well, that's why as good at his job, because he
finds a lot of people out when he's out.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You find I'm gonna bring some glow sticks in here tomorrow. Ye, well,
I'm gonna be on the Definue show The Difference.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I'm still bringing glostle. What do you think about that?
Grantlan Strobe light little but glos staks getting get it popping.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I think as a single man that needs to work
on his dance moves a little.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Sweet? Sure that ain't I ain't want to looks like, yeah, well,
you know, you know what kind of dancing I don't
like the Chappelle episode. Ain't dancing as long as you
do the robot in the water sprinkler. Yeah it's yes,
(07:55):
I'm just gonna turn the butter while you're at it,
right rope, Yeah, please.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Dance move there is right now is getting tossed out
in this studio. What'd you guys think of you know,
I mean, obviously we're the flight for the game. What'd
you think of the game itself? I mean Philadelphia? Hey man,
they put it to Kansas City. Man, they handled them.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And I said it here I was, I was telling everybody,
I don't the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
They just show up and this is the first time
I've seen them. They did not show up. Yeah, it
showed up, but they didn't show out. Showed up. They
got blown out, Yes, exactly. Who said that they got
blown out? That's also Chapelle.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I believe there's a bit when they're doing the player
Haters Ball where he says, what can I say that
about that coach that hasn't already been said about Afghanistan?
It looks bombed out, and he talks about Jerry Curl
being blowed out.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, man, they they I think they were a little
too confident.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well, I think they leave in their ability to pull
out of any deficit too much. Fair But there's a
fine line between cockyess and confidence.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
One is just the ability to back it up. Well,
guess what they were Neither won during that game.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
For a minute and the meters started crashing.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
But they were they been on stopping the running game
though they did.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
To be fair, they defended they really, honestly, they defended
pretty well. The final score doesn't seem indicative of that.
A lot of that's because the turnovers that gave the
Chiefs easy points, but they defended really well up until
the game was out of hand.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I think here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
The idea I know everyone was saying going into that week,
and even on radio road, the idea was that you
have to stop Sat Kwon Barkley. And when you think
about stopping a team running the ball or prolific running
back like that, you're not going to stop him. Even
getting two point five yards to carry that still success
because that keeps the offense on schedule and it gives
(09:57):
the offense balance. So SPADs and in all his glory
and he's done some great jobs defensively in the league,
that he never had any answers and they thought, like, okay,
stop Sa Kwan and we're going to force zaln't hurts.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
To be a quarterback. Guess what he did.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And they have two great receivers. They got great receivers,
and they got a tight end. Yeah, they were complete.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
So the moral of the story was more or less
having a complete team.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
So you can take away one, yes, but what about
end to run him? You can't take away everything.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And so that's I think that's part of it leads
into the question that I really want to ask here
is this, have we seen the first crack in the
Chiefs dynasty? Does this mean the Sharks are circling in
the water of the AFC West, which looks to be
the toughest division in football next year?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Suddenly, maybe I figured not everybody's got.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
A pencil the Chiefs in at the top anymore.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I think it's just this cracked wide open, and I
would imagine the Chiefs team is going to look different
next year as well. I mean, Mahomes will be there, obviously,
but who knows.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That probably won't be there from what I've heard, And
then there's there's several others that could probably be going
to is a you know, a Trace Smith probably not
going to be there, Nick Bolton not going to be.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
There, which dovetails to the next question.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You've talked about Nick Bolton before, is that somebody you'd
want the Broncos to pursue in the off season.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Let's do the playmaker. That's a no brainer. That's the
playmaker right there.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Boy, I'm just saying, you bring him in as the
other line from inside backer.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So right there.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And I were having this conversation on sports too, and we.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Were talking about running backs. Talk about Boulton. The old
thing is him having played for the round. I know
Neil Smith did it back in the day. It's kind
of hard to just come, you know, welcome into the
locker room right away, you know. But hey, I mean, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well for me, you welcome a guy in that locker room.
You know why because you look around in the Broncos
locker room they say, well, which guy in this locker
room has been where he's been over the past three years?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Is because that's the huge rivalry between the Bronx and seat.
That's the only reason why. But other than that, obviously,
yet Neil Dale Carter did it. Yeah, Dale, there was
another guy.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
There's another guy who did it who should not be Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You know, yeah, good point.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yes, there's there's another guy who played with the wide
receiver who shall not be named because he's like Lord
Lord Vordimore and the Broncos in Broncos Country.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I will not mention his name.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
What is a wide receiver who kind of did that,
but he also bailed on his team at the same time.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Come on, right now, come on, man, you gonna make
his name skillet hands? Yes, k yes, there. I always
called him skill it hands.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
He called him skillet hands because it looked like he
was trying to catch a ball between two frying pants
and fast all that.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Ben said, because I'm not gonna utter his name. His
name is Eddie Kennison. He's like Lord Lord Vodimore.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I called him. I called him his name. He couldn't catch.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Well, it's not just the fact that he couldn't catch,
it's just the fact that he kind of bailed on
his teammates at one point on.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The teammates here. Yes, so that's why I want to
say his name. But my point is right.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And I were talking about Okay Bolton, we were talking
about running backs and the question was like Aaron Jones,
and I thought I threw in a Keem hunt Robine's kareemhum.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Excuse me? Kareem Hunk, and Ryan was wanting more to
lean towards Aaron Jones.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I said, well, Jones is more of a finess back
in my mind.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
To me, this team needs to be more physical.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
So having a guy like Kareem Hunt, even if you
don't get a Kareem Hunt, if you go out in
in the draft and get a physical type runner, because
it's talking about short yardist goal line. And think about
Broncos last year statistically converting third downs that was a
huge problems.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And because they.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Couldn't convert third downs, guess what that meant that the
defense was on the field a long time, so time
of possession was big.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So you want more physical guys. So I asked you,
do you want.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
More finess or do you want more physicality to be
the culture of this team in twenty twenty fivescality.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I mean, we don't have a Peyton Manning, but you
could be finesse when you have Peyton Manning quarterbacking.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And with all due respect to Bownicks, who.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I think is obviously a competent starter in this league,
box is not Peyton Manning and I'd rather have I'd
rather have some nasty dudes I.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Want some chain snatchers.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I want some people out there, you know, people out
there punching them in the mouth. And we can't have
Rilly Moss snatching chains all right, Like like I'm gonna
I'm gonna take one for for us right now and
say that we can't have Riley out there?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Is that shape man? No, we're all rooting for him.
I'm just saying, come out ball that. Yeah, because you're
imagine that.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
Yes, turn up you crazy, sat it off lamb, but Conky,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yes, think about that. Steve the crowd boy. I need it.
I needed to happen. But I want some dogs. I
want them, you know. Yeah, is there's something to be said.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
For having a good character, There's something absolutely said.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But you need a couple of dogs out there. I
think most coaches know that too.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
They know that, Yeah, you want to have a team
full of great guys, but you gotta have four or
five six just crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You don't want to go rate it r. But you
need a PG thirteen, You get somebody with a little edge.
What the here's what you need.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And this is what I was trying to tell Ryan,
because Ryan was thinking that, well, you're you're asking a
team to go out and get you know, trouble guys,
bad boys. And I'm like, no, here's a perfect example.
He's right here in the studio. You want a bunch
of Steve Atwater, the nicest guy off the field.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
But now everybody can't be nice though, No, no, no,
not the fact that everyone be nice.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
With the whole idea is that from a character standpoint,
you're a stand up guy off the field. Once they
voted whistle and kick the ball off, I'm gonna hold
you for god.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh yeah, that's Steve.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Atwater right there, your family, destroy your house.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yes, we had guys on our team. Man, they weren't
so nice, and what every team's going they.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Wouldn't necessarily, you know, stayed stayed out of trouble on Sundays.
Oh yeah, and that's and that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's the thing you're talking about. Well, I'm talking about
just kind of the physicality about being on the phone. Okay, No, I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Just saying, what what those guys that you played with
broad on game day, that's what you want to see
you gotta have.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean, look, a church can't survive if everybody's in
the choir. You gotta have some centers out there in
the pie.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Someone saw from experience, and I sat on both sides
of that.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But I'm just saying you can't, like you know, you
can't have all Mardi. You can't have people and the
views repenting to you know what I mean. I'm all
for that signment.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You cannot have a bunch of nice guys on your team,
not when it.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Comes to playing a physical game like football, you can't.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And so like I'm I'm okay with getting a guy
like Thick Bolton, who I think Broncos fans probably remember
him mostly for the hit on Melvin Gordon.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The Broncos were.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Gonna break down against the Chiefs and Bolton came in
untouched and just it wasn't really Melvin's fault, but because
Melvin had fumbled before, he kind of got the bad rat.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Bolton came in or untouched just blew his spot up.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Now Bolton, he doesn't have any problems off the field,
doesn't he? No, okay, no, but just just from.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
A physical standpoint, here is the other thing I love
about the idea, whether it's Bolton krem Humpway, if you
can get it dumb not just the physicality, but the idea.
Just wrap your minds around this. Like you said earlier,
he played for the Chiefs. There's certain things that he
knows about practice, habits, things that in the work is
inside the building that you want. We've seen it happen
during the season where teams would bring a guy in
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maybe a week or two weeks before they play a
certain team. They kind of squeeze all the juice out
of his brain. So to me, who's better to have
than the guy who is a dumper, who has great
anticipation and he brings physicality.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And knows area.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Paul, our main rivals, you know, in the division's entire
defense of what they're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, and Nick Bolden's still playing still.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Mostly he has most sacks of his career last season
played all sixteen or played sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
He didn't play that game.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Obviously where the Chiefs stat all their their you know,
starters against us at the at end of the season
sixteen games, finished with one hundred and six tackles, three sacks,
four passes defense. Uh, he had an interception, a forced
funnel to funnel recoveries, I mean, Duke.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And still ball. Well.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I got to say our linebackers did pretty well this
year too, though.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
See we don't want pretty well. No no, no, no, no,
that's not we don't we don't want pretty well. I'm
just saying, yes, okay, Zach Bond or Nick Bowden.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Man, everybody's gonna say Bond, but I'd rather have Bolton. Yeah,
because Bond you may not be able to afford.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Him, you may not be able to for him, but
to get the consumation prize over here.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And I'll take it. Yeah, I mean I think Bolton's
more physical player.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Now, Bolton's not as good going away from the ball,
but sideline a sideline and downhill, I'll taking Nick Bolton.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, yeah, Nick Bolton.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Man, he he's just he's he's got it man, He's
got that.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
He got he turns it up man. Game day he
shows up and think about.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
A blitzing linebacker from the second level that can actually
get home and sack the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
And stop the run.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
He's five eleven, two hundred and forty seven pounds an
inside backer, five eleven two forty that's a that's built stocky.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, Rocos Country night back. After this, we're absolutely ridiculous
on the show I Got to buy more Gap looks.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Back to the Rocos Country tonight.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Hop out his shows. It's been all right.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Nick ferguson the Hall of Famer Steve ot water Down
mustash Hall of Famer Grantsmith.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Back there, there we go, keep being back to their party.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You know, look at him. Let's got that Trip Club
T shirt on. He can't stop for him. He swears
the name of band. I never heard that band they
got he saw you didn't bump back with their music.
They have one of my favorite songs called Chevrolet Van.
And they also have one that's really good that calls
is called feels all Right.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Hold on ready, I don't know if I can listen
to that song with the band name the first one.
I'll listen to. What was the first song, Chevrolet Van.
I'll listen to that one I'm not listening to. I
listened to Feels all Right. Get the name of the band,
think about.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
His grants shirt, and think about his favorite songs from that.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Either way, I'm gonna lose here.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
That's singing about Chevrolet and what was the.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Feels so good or whatever good? I'm just whatever. Either way,
feels all right.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Listen, people can't see that the shirt, the name of it,
I'm not going to say it, but once again.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
The party apparently it's a band.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Just in case you didn't know.
Speaker 8 (20:39):
You ever heard of the band, well you heard of
Patford Blue, yes.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But that is because of Ryan ever right.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I'm just trying to remember back when the bands had
sensible names like Jamiroquay yes.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
What or Fleetwood Mac or as my as my seven
year call it Fleetwood Mac and Cheese.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I kind of like it. We kind of do that now,
he with mac and cheese, with Mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, five six six man zeros in text line. You
guys got any questions as we were heading towards the
off season, the NFL Combine coming up next week, myself, Ryan,
it's gonna be out there.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Uh uh for that?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Is there anybody any particular college players that who jumped
out to you guys that you want to get some
testing numbers on, some.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Data on from this combine?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Anybody jumping out at you, I like, uh, they're running
back out of North Carolina. Marian Hampton. I've talked about
him a lot. I want to, you know, I want
to kind of see what he measures at it. One
guy I've really got my eye on, not that we
really need what he brings to the table, but Jalen
Royal's uh Utah State wide receiver built built a little
bit more like a running back than a wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But but he was what's his statue, what is it?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I think he's what six foot flat two fifteen Yeah,
you know, built, build a little more like that Sammy
Watkins build, you know, a little bit more like that
running back, a little bit more like debou And he's
supposed to run a four to three eight. So I'm
kind of interested to see if he's gonna hit that.
I'm kind of interested to see if he hits those
kind of numbers.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Uh out there? Is he kind of like Joker ready? Well,
that's the thing I.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Mean, he is, you know, he's a guy who played
running back and wide receiver. So maybe, you know, maybe
there's a little bit of a of a chance he
could he could be something. But uh certainly watched him
with the ball in his hands at Utah State and
they would throw a lot of those screens, let him
create uh you know, after the catch, and that that.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Could be something we could use.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So where where are you thinking, like, if you think
you think about foot the Broncos, right, where would we take
him first round thing?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh no, no, no, no no, you're probably probably looking at
like a third, fourth round type type of guy.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Okay, do you think of first round? I wouldn't mind
if it was I wouldn't mind if it was Amar
and Hampton running back out of North Carolina. I liked
it a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I don't I don't necessarily want to go with the
tight end early. I think there's a lot of good
tight ends in his draft, and you know, we get
penciled in for the the Coast of Lovelins and all
that kind of stuff. I don't necessarily think you can
find it. You can find a good tight end. You
can get a you know, you can get a gun
or helm in the in the third or fourth round.
You can get to unride against in a second who
I really.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Like he moved.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I don't know if you watched him at all, but
he moved mos like a receiver with the ball in
his hands. You get hit the ball in his hands.
He's just a big receiver. At that point, you think, kids,
you will be gone by then. Yeah, man, I think
Chancey's going to Raiders, I think I think I think
he'll take him early, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Because Josh Jacobs no longer there.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, you got Chip Kelly running in, Pete Carroll there
running that, you know, running that team.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I think they that's a good point I heard.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I heard a rumor that they like Jant and then
they want to come back at double dip and get
the quis Shawn Judkins from Ohio State and then have
a two back attack. You know, Judkins be kind of
the jet back and then Janny would be the you
know dot the I back there with what they run.
So I you know that that could be a leaf,
a little little maneuver there if they do something like that.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
For me based on what happens in the pigs ahead
of the Broncos. I think you have that contingency plan
where you think about moving back right, because the.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Way I look at it, you're trying to.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Arm yourself with as much young talent as you can.
If you go long in at twenty with any guy
at any position, you name him, you call them once again.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I think, in my opinion, you've done yourself with disservice.
But twenty isn't like five six seven, eight, nine, ten.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
You know, I know, because once again, this is this
is why I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
The way I'm thinking. You're not up that high.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Unless you're telling me the Broncos are going to move up.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's a whole different conversation. I understand. I don't know
if you can get that much more with twenty if.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Again, because you move, you move back, someone's gonna want
to move up to get a particular player.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So the phone is going to start ringing.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And you you're asking them, well, what are you willing
to give me to move up to the twentieth spot,
Because if you're calling me, that.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Means you're desperate. So you move back, and you now
swap where.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
They are in the first round and you pick up
another what second or maybe a first in twenty twenty six, Well,
most of.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
The desperate teams are in the first ten to fifteen though, Well, okay,
I'm just let's say, let's say it's one of those teams.
So let's start talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Because youve got teams that have got to figure something out.
New Orleans is in cap hell and they've got to
get cheap, right, Well, that's the way to get cheap
is to do draft picks cross controlled contracts.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You know, maybe maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
They're a team wants moof they're gonna to get a
quarterackcause they're gona have to punt on Derek Carr just
to get cap compliant.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So they're gonna have to get a quarterback. They're gonna
have to.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Get a you know, probably like a Jackson Dark somebody
like that.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You know, they may need two first round draft picks
in order to be able to pull that off.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah, because okay, there are nineteen other picks above the Broncos.
This draft has a lot of talented players, and a
lot of those talented players who may be projected to
go in the first round, they may not all go
because someone else is going to make a move. I
remember last year and with the eighth pick, no one
expected Atlanta to do.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
What they did and move up to get Pinnicks. That
changed everything.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Every other player that was projected above that they will
push down. So the buckles are going to be in
a position where, you know what, you're gonna have your
opportunity whether you stay at twenty, move back, but you're
going to be able to acquire young talent.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I truly believe that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I mean, it's not as top heavy as some of
the drafts where you've got, you know, twenty thirty guys
there at the top. He really has like ten twelve
guys at the top, and then it's kind of fat
in the middle from twelve to like pick one hundred
where the skill level from the play. Yeah, but I mean,
I'm just saying like, if you got if you got
somebody that's desperate, tone, it's looking a good up, especially
if there's a quarterback that they want, somebody like that
that's just sitting there or.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Running back desperate. Do you all see a tight end though.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
That you guys think is that joker type tight end
that Sean Payton wants.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I mean, I like Gadsden, I think he can, but
he's not a back.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, gads I'm thinking more of a tight end.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
A gas is more like Jimmy Graham where he's the
tight end or the wide receiver. He's not like a
He's not like Reggie Bush where he was a back.
You know that kind of thing. Kasden to me, fits
that roll. There's there's a couple of running backs out there.
Let's get that one running back. Gosh, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I'm drawing a blank right now. There's a running back.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
He started off at receiver, he converted a running back,
And I'm trying a huge blank.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
But think about this when you when you say joker,
and I know that term has taken on a whole
different connotation because Coach Payton uses it all the time.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
What I hear every time I hear it. I know
Ben doesn't like that phrase. When I hear, I.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Hear versatility impact players every time I hear him say that.
So that player that you bring in, he doesn't necessarily
have to be a running back. It's great if he
is and he possessed debo type skills. But then you
think about Tyler war You can use Tylawaran like he used.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
What's with Jday's field? Yeah, you could use him the
same way on the center. You can flex him out,
he could throw.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The ball, he could be an inline blocker. But I
like Elijah Royo too at the University of Miami because
all you're asking for in this dynamic joker type player
is that guy to be a game changer, a guy who.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Would him in the first round. No, you're you're looking
for You're looking for mismatches. I mean, everybody's saying a word, joker,
what are you What you're looking for is mismatch that right?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I mean, at the end of the day, britsharn Smith
that at a SMU, he was a slot wide receiver
at five to ten one hundred ninety six pounds are
converted to running back, so he can kind of he
kind of does both.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Could be that that third.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Down guy catches the ball, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
He's not too light one hundred ninety six. That's TWU
pund He's not too light to be uh, you know
any of that. He could do both. So that's somebody
you could look at.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Because all we're talking about here is we're talking about
speed and physicality. To me, it's about you got to
put a track team out there. Oh you got to
put a team out that just gonna beat the hell
out of people physically.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
We're just going to run through your face. Why think
you need a power back? I think you need somebody
can catch balls too, like for sure, But I think
you need a power guy.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And to me, that's either Mario Hampton or caer Caleb Johnson.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
You know somebody at six foot two, twenty five plus,
you know that it's it's back there that's gonna you know,
let's gonna put their face masking and move it.
Speaker 9 (28:37):
I like the Junkins kid out of Ohio State Couch
John Jenkins, that's the one I think. Uh, he's right
there at six two two twenty, that's the one I think.
I really think the Raiders are going to double dip
all that.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
That's comparable to Jamiir Gibbs who plays for the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
And look at that one two punch you got. He's
not that big.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, Gibbs gives as Judkins is a four four nine guy.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Where to those kind of guys, they have to be
jim rats because after two or three years, if you
not really on your workout game, you slowed.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I've seen those guys slow down.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
But well, for me, I think, and this is not comparable,
but I think Derrick Henry, and I think Eric.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Dickerson, and I think Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
All those guys were obviously larger than five to eleven six.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
They yes, they work, So.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
You do need a guy who has that mentality that
he has to work off the field, but he can
grind on the field as well.
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Speaker 1 (30:06):
We'll let those. We'll let those. Somebody must say you.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Williams don't know if you guys saw him the TCU
wide receiver sixty five.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I bet him Posh will be being the joker.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I don't think he's big enough and really have enough
blocking to be a tight end, but he's he's definitely
a big, you know, big physical X receiver.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Well, I think we need to redefine the tight end
because think about what Kyle Pitts for.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
The Falcons really is. Yeah, he's just a big.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Wide receiver planing a tight end position. I mean in
my day playing against Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzalez kind
of bigger guys, but not that massive tight end like
Mark Mavarro was.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Back in the day.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Right, But you just want your tight end to be
able to flex out and have the ability to run routes.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
But but Cole Pitts is sixty six two forty seven,
save you on Williams is sixty five to twenty.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I don't think that.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
That that's where there's a twenty five on size, you know, Yeah,
but you could put that type of guy in the slide,
the heavy slot, right because now even though he's not
like a two forty two fifty type of guy, the
matchup you think about the match.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Up, always say that, man, the guy's in the slot. Yeah,
you don't like the heavy slide. Marcus playing for big slot.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
But Dontrell Endon also really kind of helped pioneer. I
don't remember him for the Chargers, helped kind of pioneer
that heavy slide.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Now that's what you get. I mean, Mike Evans, that's
what he is.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
You know, most teams would consider him a next receiver,
but really he plays a lot of that heavy slot,
especially when you get down the goal line.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
They do that slot fade with him. Oh yes, yes, unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Right, that's him saying, you got a six to five
guy lighting.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Up in the slot. That would the fade? What are
you gonna do? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
And in basketball, like you said, I mean basketball, like.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Football, you want to create matchups.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
You put that large guy in the slot, whether it's
a tight end or it is the actual receiver. Now
you're getting the defensive unit's third best corner, right, it
means is a nigger when you got a height advantage
throwing up all those passes between the numbers that the
Broncos did not take advantage of last year with their
tight ends, that's.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Now readily available. Yeah, I still I don't think you're
I was not.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Like even last year, we could have utilized our tight
ends more than we did because we showed on tight.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Ends you know, end it worked, and then we forgot
they existed right after that, like literally just a moment
after that day was.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Over, forgot the existed. Yeah, but I think that next
year they'll, hopefully they'll be utilized. I think so too,
regardless of who's there.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
The ken of me when it comes to this whole
like Joker dispatch thing is when you're running a guy
onto the field and you've got opposing DC, you know,
the defensive assistant up there to booth and he's.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Hurted by that guy.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Well, they're putting the guy in and I'm counting him
as what a tight end receiver whatever, I'm counting him
ass and I'm telling them to say defensive personnel to
match that, because that means I'm accidentally getting the linebacker
on the guy plays receiver or whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
That's right, and that's that's what I'm getting at it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Since those guys, when you run those guys on the field,
they got to make a choice. Am I putting a
linebacker on this guy in sacrificing speed?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Am I putting a corner on this.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Guy in sacrifice and sacrifice and the run stop?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
What am I doing? In to your point, Nick Bolden,
if he's in there, what do you do? You're okay?
You feel comfortable? Yeah? I think so, because he he'sfinitely
shut the run down.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I'm well, yeah, I don't necessarily want to be covered
a lot, but but you know, you see how it
is Broncos country, and now we gotta hit a break.
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I was down there Dallas back in the mid two
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work at the time, and there was this place that
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Speaker 1 (01:24):
A little bit later, the.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Coach, coach John Pigan'll gonna join us. So it'll be
good to have him back his first time since taking
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about that season out there Washington, that magical season that
they had. It'd be a lot of fun to catch
up with him. Steve, how you doing, Bud Hey, doing
pretty good? Doing pretty good? Man?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Uh? Man, I was out there for Super Bowl. That
was crazy. That's what I heard you a party, man,
I heard you. Uh you got up to nod to man.
Steve was believe it or not. And this is a
true story.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Steve actually was one of the dancers on stage for
Kederick Lamar.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Okay, I had the mask on. Yeah, yeah, that guy
he was doing like the Yelwaukee's thing.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah that.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
You know, you know, Steve, I would have been I
would have been way off the rhythm and everything.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He was walking. It was a spotlight on Steve. Not
like me.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'm like, oh, those shows off the rails already. I
was it though, I was it the other New Orleans
from the Super Bowl, hob Man, it was.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It was.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It was a great time, and I think everybody felt
safe because man, cars could barely move down in the area,
uh where the game was, and you know, you couldn't drive.
You can walk, you can walk, but you had to
be ready to walk because if you're trying to get
an uber to the stadium, you got to get off
(03:00):
probably a half mile stadium because the roads were blocked
and the traffic was just sat a stat Still, did
they did they put carpet down on some of the
streets or something.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I saw something like Bourbon Street they put some of
the carpet down. They try to get you to tell
y'all tell it yourself a party. Don't. No, no, no,
I didn't. I don't think I didn't go down to
Burbon Street yet.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I don't think I didn't see any carpet on the
on I didn't walk on any carpet anyway.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Okay, somebody said they had carpet on the cobble stone. No, no, no,
there was no carpet. There was a lot of unpaved disproportion.
You say there was did you see it? Did you
go all over the doorand how you know it was
no carpet?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Well, the place is the ut I'm used.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
To going to a little bit more of a dangerous
place than you guys probably go to. I gotta pass
what you're talking about any reasons of my potato.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But I'll tell you what, here's the biggest thing.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
That was.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Crazy. That that's a bit you know what. It was
the safest.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Place I would say in these United States for that well,
probably like military security on every street corner and you
would see these big tank like vehicles with guys four
or five guys hanging on the back end waiting for
something to jump off off, Yes, waiting let it kick.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Off, as they say, let a kick off, right, Yeah,
they I had heard the security down there was was
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
And like when you know when you go to security
here in Denver, you know, and they go through U. T. S.
A and all that and clear if you got clear,
and once you get to the gate, you just get
on the plane. Well before we flew out, they checked
our bags and everything, checked our ID one last time
at the gate.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I never experienced that before because they weren't one hundred
percent COMMENCEDU. We with Steve at Water. No, that's a guy.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well you're way too nice.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
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a little too tall. Stand over here on the time. Yea, no,
take everyone.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
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trouble getting out of New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It was out there that Monday. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
That Monday morning I heard was a disaster. I left
seven o'clock Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Okay, I was out. Yeah, by the time the game started,
I was already home. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Western it's like on the plane, but you watch the game. Yes,
there's a game on the plane. On the plane bounce, Okay,
you dipped. I don't know if you guys can stick
around for you know, post Super Bowl party what?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
No, No, never that.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You never do that because that next day everyone is
trying to get out, Like Steve said, getting to the stadium,
but that's.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
When he becaus your flight for the day after that,
the party, you got the recovery day.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Everybody's trying to get out and then you come the
day after No, I said, when I was coming back from.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
London, like everybody else was coming back one day, I
just put it off an extra day. I was like,
all right, the madhouses. Well you're you're still in your
party phase.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yes, he's still Yeah, he don't want to He want
to do it at night and in the morning, so
he's other things. This is this the other thing too.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
You know, Ben is out there with the glow sticks
and everything. You and I are mad. Had to be mad,
you know, he's still like this surg he was. I
don't know, I'm gonna be Coach Beard, aren't. We're trying
to figure out on the show, like.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Who is who from Ted? Did you ever watched Ted last?
I've seen a couple of Okay, we're trying to figure
out who's who on the show. And I was like
I was trying to you know, everybody wants to be
Ted Lasso. But the more I got into him, like,
I'm probably Coach Beard. I'm probably Coach Beard, the weird.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Guy who has like the weird answers at the weird times,
like and then he goes to the you know, he
goes the rave of the club.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
With That's exactly because the coach on Ted Lasso, just
like Ted is talking and the coach is in the
cut somewhere and he just come up with these random
ass facts just like Ben does.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Like what kind of he's like Brandon like, yeah, baby,
think about this. Reminded me of this. But he likes
the party too. I've been though. Yeah, it's his part
of it. I guess I am coach perce, I'll roll
with it.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Well, that's why as good at his job, because he
finds a lot of people out when he's out.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You find I'm gonna bring some glow sticks in here tomorrow. Ye, well,
I'm gonna be on the Definue show The Difference.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I'm still bringing glostle. What do you think about that?
Grantlan Strobe light little but glos staks getting get it popping.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I think as a single man that needs to work
on his dance moves a little.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Sweet? Sure that ain't I ain't want to looks like, yeah, well,
you know, you know what kind of dancing I don't
like the Chappelle episode. Ain't dancing as long as you
do the robot in the water sprinkler. Yeah it's yes,
(07:55):
I'm just gonna turn the butter while you're at it,
right rope, Yeah, please.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Dance move there is right now is getting tossed out
in this studio. What'd you guys think of you know,
I mean, obviously we're the flight for the game. What'd
you think of the game itself? I mean Philadelphia? Hey man,
they put it to Kansas City. Man, they handled them.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And I said it here I was, I was telling everybody,
I don't the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
They just show up and this is the first time
I've seen them. They did not show up. Yeah, it
showed up, but they didn't show out. Showed up. They
got blown out, Yes, exactly. Who said that they got
blown out? That's also Chapelle.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I believe there's a bit when they're doing the player
Haters Ball where he says, what can I say that
about that coach that hasn't already been said about Afghanistan?
It looks bombed out, and he talks about Jerry Curl
being blowed out.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, man, they they I think they were a little
too confident.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Well, I think they leave in their ability to pull
out of any deficit too much. Fair But there's a
fine line between cockyess and confidence.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
One is just the ability to back it up. Well,
guess what they were Neither won during that game.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
For a minute and the meters started crashing.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
But they were they been on stopping the running game
though they did.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
To be fair, they defended they really, honestly, they defended
pretty well. The final score doesn't seem indicative of that.
A lot of that's because the turnovers that gave the
Chiefs easy points, but they defended really well up until
the game was out of hand.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I think here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
The idea I know everyone was saying going into that week,
and even on radio road, the idea was that you
have to stop Sat Kwon Barkley. And when you think
about stopping a team running the ball or prolific running
back like that, you're not going to stop him. Even
getting two point five yards to carry that still success
because that keeps the offense on schedule and it gives
(09:57):
the offense balance. So SPADs and in all his glory
and he's done some great jobs defensively in the league,
that he never had any answers and they thought, like, okay,
stop Sa Kwan and we're going to force zaln't hurts.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
To be a quarterback. Guess what he did.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And they have two great receivers. They got great receivers,
and they got a tight end. Yeah, they were complete.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
So the moral of the story was more or less
having a complete team.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
So you can take away one, yes, but what about
end to run him? You can't take away everything.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And so that's I think that's part of it leads
into the question that I really want to ask here
is this, have we seen the first crack in the
Chiefs dynasty? Does this mean the Sharks are circling in
the water of the AFC West, which looks to be
the toughest division in football next year?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Suddenly, maybe I figured not everybody's got.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
A pencil the Chiefs in at the top anymore.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I think it's just this cracked wide open, and I
would imagine the Chiefs team is going to look different
next year as well. I mean, Mahomes will be there, obviously,
but who knows.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That probably won't be there from what I've heard, And
then there's there's several others that could probably be going
to is a you know, a Trace Smith probably not
going to be there, Nick Bolton not going to be.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
There, which dovetails to the next question.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You've talked about Nick Bolton before, is that somebody you'd
want the Broncos to pursue in the off season.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Let's do the playmaker. That's a no brainer. That's the
playmaker right there.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Boy, I'm just saying, you bring him in as the
other line from inside backer.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So right there.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And I were having this conversation on sports too, and we.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Were talking about running backs. Talk about Boulton. The old
thing is him having played for the round. I know
Neil Smith did it back in the day. It's kind
of hard to just come, you know, welcome into the
locker room right away, you know. But hey, I mean, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well for me, you welcome a guy in that locker room.
You know why because you look around in the Broncos
locker room they say, well, which guy in this locker
room has been where he's been over the past three years?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Is because that's the huge rivalry between the Bronx and seat.
That's the only reason why. But other than that, obviously,
yet Neil Dale Carter did it. Yeah, Dale, there was
another guy.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
There's another guy who did it who should not be Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You know, yeah, good point.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yes, there's there's another guy who played with the wide
receiver who shall not be named because he's like Lord
Lord Vordimore and the Broncos in Broncos Country.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I will not mention his name.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
What is a wide receiver who kind of did that,
but he also bailed on his team at the same time.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Come on, right now, come on, man, you gonna make
his name skillet hands? Yes, k yes, there. I always
called him skill it hands.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
He called him skillet hands because it looked like he
was trying to catch a ball between two frying pants
and fast all that.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Ben said, because I'm not gonna utter his name. His
name is Eddie Kennison. He's like Lord Lord Vodimore.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I called him. I called him his name. He couldn't catch.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Well, it's not just the fact that he couldn't catch,
it's just the fact that he kind of bailed on
his teammates at one point on.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The teammates here. Yes, so that's why I want to
say his name. But my point is right.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And I were talking about Okay Bolton, we were talking
about running backs and the question was like Aaron Jones,
and I thought I threw in a Keem hunt Robine's kareemhum.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Excuse me? Kareem Hunk, and Ryan was wanting more to
lean towards Aaron Jones.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I said, well, Jones is more of a finess back
in my mind.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
To me, this team needs to be more physical.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
So having a guy like Kareem Hunt, even if you
don't get a Kareem Hunt, if you go out in
in the draft and get a physical type runner, because
it's talking about short yardist goal line. And think about
Broncos last year statistically converting third downs that was a
huge problems.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And because they.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Couldn't convert third downs, guess what that meant that the
defense was on the field a long time, so time
of possession was big.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So you want more physical guys. So I asked you,
do you want.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
More finess or do you want more physicality to be
the culture of this team in twenty twenty fivescality.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I mean, we don't have a Peyton Manning, but you
could be finesse when you have Peyton Manning quarterbacking.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And with all due respect to Bownicks, who.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I think is obviously a competent starter in this league,
box is not Peyton Manning and I'd rather have I'd
rather have some nasty dudes I.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Want some chain snatchers.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I want some people out there, you know, people out
there punching them in the mouth. And we can't have
Rilly Moss snatching chains all right, Like like I'm gonna
I'm gonna take one for for us right now and
say that we can't have Riley out there?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Is that shape man? No, we're all rooting for him.
I'm just saying, come out ball that. Yeah, because you're
imagine that.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
Yes, turn up you crazy, sat it off lamb, but Conky,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yes, think about that. Steve the crowd boy. I need it.
I needed to happen. But I want some dogs. I
want them, you know. Yeah, is there's something to be said.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
For having a good character, There's something absolutely said.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But you need a couple of dogs out there. I
think most coaches know that too.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
They know that, Yeah, you want to have a team
full of great guys, but you gotta have four or
five six just crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
You don't want to go rate it r. But you
need a PG thirteen, You get somebody with a little edge.
What the here's what you need.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And this is what I was trying to tell Ryan,
because Ryan was thinking that, well, you're you're asking a
team to go out and get you know, trouble guys,
bad boys. And I'm like, no, here's a perfect example.
He's right here in the studio. You want a bunch
of Steve Atwater, the nicest guy off the field.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
But now everybody can't be nice though, No, no, no,
not the fact that everyone be nice.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
With the whole idea is that from a character standpoint,
you're a stand up guy off the field. Once they
voted whistle and kick the ball off, I'm gonna hold
you for god.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh yeah, that's Steve.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Atwater right there, your family, destroy your house.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yes, we had guys on our team. Man, they weren't
so nice, and what every team's going they.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Wouldn't necessarily, you know, stayed stayed out of trouble on Sundays.
Oh yeah, and that's and that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's the thing you're talking about. Well, I'm talking about
just kind of the physicality about being on the phone. Okay, No, I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Just saying, what what those guys that you played with
broad on game day, that's what you want to see
you gotta have.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean, look, a church can't survive if everybody's in
the choir. You gotta have some centers out there in
the pie.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Someone saw from experience, and I sat on both sides
of that.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But I'm just saying you can't, like you know, you
can't have all Mardi. You can't have people and the
views repenting to you know what I mean. I'm all
for that signment.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You cannot have a bunch of nice guys on your team,
not when it.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Comes to playing a physical game like football, you can't.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And so like I'm I'm okay with getting a guy
like Thick Bolton, who I think Broncos fans probably remember
him mostly for the hit on Melvin Gordon.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The Broncos were.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Gonna break down against the Chiefs and Bolton came in
untouched and just it wasn't really Melvin's fault, but because
Melvin had fumbled before, he kind of got the bad rat.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Bolton came in or untouched just blew his spot up.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Now Bolton, he doesn't have any problems off the field,
doesn't he? No, okay, no, but just just from.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
A physical standpoint, here is the other thing I love
about the idea, whether it's Bolton krem Humpway, if you
can get it dumb not just the physicality, but the idea.
Just wrap your minds around this. Like you said earlier,
he played for the Chiefs. There's certain things that he
knows about practice, habits, things that in the work is
inside the building that you want. We've seen it happen
during the season where teams would bring a guy in
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maybe a week or two weeks before they play a
certain team. They kind of squeeze all the juice out
of his brain. So to me, who's better to have
than the guy who is a dumper, who has great
anticipation and he brings physicality.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And knows area.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Paul, our main rivals, you know, in the division's entire
defense of what they're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, and Nick Bolden's still playing still.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Mostly he has most sacks of his career last season
played all sixteen or played sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
He didn't play that game.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Obviously where the Chiefs stat all their their you know,
starters against us at the at end of the season
sixteen games, finished with one hundred and six tackles, three sacks,
four passes defense. Uh, he had an interception, a forced
funnel to funnel recoveries, I mean, Duke.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
And still ball. Well.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I got to say our linebackers did pretty well this
year too, though.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
See we don't want pretty well. No no, no, no, no,
that's not we don't we don't want pretty well. I'm
just saying, yes, okay, Zach Bond or Nick Bowden.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Man, everybody's gonna say Bond, but I'd rather have Bolton. Yeah,
because Bond you may not be able to afford.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Him, you may not be able to for him, but
to get the consumation prize over here.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And I'll take it. Yeah, I mean I think Bolton's
more physical player.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Now, Bolton's not as good going away from the ball,
but sideline a sideline and downhill, I'll taking Nick Bolton.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, yeah, Nick Bolton.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Man, he he's just he's he's got it man, He's
got that.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
He got he turns it up man. Game day he
shows up and think about.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
A blitzing linebacker from the second level that can actually
get home and sack the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
And stop the run.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
He's five eleven, two hundred and forty seven pounds an
inside backer, five eleven two forty that's a that's built stocky.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, Rocos Country night back. After this, we're absolutely ridiculous
on the show I Got to buy more Gap looks.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Back to the Rocos Country tonight.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Hop out his shows. It's been all right.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Nick ferguson the Hall of Famer Steve ot water Down
mustash Hall of Famer Grantsmith.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Back there, there we go, keep being back to their party.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You know, look at him. Let's got that Trip Club
T shirt on. He can't stop for him. He swears
the name of band. I never heard that band they
got he saw you didn't bump back with their music.
They have one of my favorite songs called Chevrolet Van.
And they also have one that's really good that calls
is called feels all Right.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Hold on ready, I don't know if I can listen
to that song with the band name the first one.
I'll listen to. What was the first song, Chevrolet Van.
I'll listen to that one I'm not listening to. I
listened to Feels all Right. Get the name of the band,
think about.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
His grants shirt, and think about his favorite songs from that.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Either way, I'm gonna lose here.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
That's singing about Chevrolet and what was the.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Feels so good or whatever good? I'm just whatever. Either way,
feels all right.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Listen, people can't see that the shirt, the name of it,
I'm not going to say it, but once again.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
The party apparently it's a band.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Just in case you didn't know.
Speaker 8 (20:39):
You ever heard of the band, well you heard of
Patford Blue, yes.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But that is because of Ryan ever right.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I'm just trying to remember back when the bands had
sensible names like Jamiroquay yes.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
What or Fleetwood Mac or as my as my seven
year call it Fleetwood Mac and Cheese.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I kind of like it. We kind of do that now,
he with mac and cheese, with Mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, five six six man zeros in text line. You
guys got any questions as we were heading towards the
off season, the NFL Combine coming up next week, myself, Ryan,
it's gonna be out there.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Uh uh for that?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Is there anybody any particular college players that who jumped
out to you guys that you want to get some
testing numbers on, some.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Data on from this combine?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Anybody jumping out at you, I like, uh, they're running
back out of North Carolina. Marian Hampton. I've talked about
him a lot. I want to, you know, I want
to kind of see what he measures at it. One
guy I've really got my eye on, not that we
really need what he brings to the table, but Jalen
Royal's uh Utah State wide receiver built built a little
bit more like a running back than a wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But but he was what's his statue, what is it?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I think he's what six foot flat two fifteen Yeah,
you know, built, build a little more like that Sammy
Watkins build, you know, a little bit more like that
running back, a little bit more like debou And he's
supposed to run a four to three eight. So I'm
kind of interested to see if he's gonna hit that.
I'm kind of interested to see if he hits those
kind of numbers.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Uh out there? Is he kind of like Joker ready? Well,
that's the thing I.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Mean, he is, you know, he's a guy who played
running back and wide receiver. So maybe, you know, maybe
there's a little bit of a of a chance he
could he could be something. But uh certainly watched him
with the ball in his hands at Utah State and
they would throw a lot of those screens, let him
create uh you know, after the catch, and that that.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Could be something we could use.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So where where are you thinking, like, if you think
you think about foot the Broncos, right, where would we take
him first round thing?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh no, no, no, no no, you're probably probably looking at
like a third, fourth round type type of guy.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Okay, do you think of first round? I wouldn't mind
if it was I wouldn't mind if it was Amar
and Hampton running back out of North Carolina. I liked
it a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I don't I don't necessarily want to go with the
tight end early. I think there's a lot of good
tight ends in his draft, and you know, we get
penciled in for the the Coast of Lovelins and all
that kind of stuff. I don't necessarily think you can
find it. You can find a good tight end. You
can get a you know, you can get a gun
or helm in the in the third or fourth round.
You can get to unride against in a second who
I really.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Like he moved.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I don't know if you watched him at all, but
he moved mos like a receiver with the ball in
his hands. You get hit the ball in his hands.
He's just a big receiver. At that point, you think, kids,
you will be gone by then. Yeah, man, I think
Chancey's going to Raiders, I think I think I think
he'll take him early, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Because Josh Jacobs no longer there.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, you got Chip Kelly running in, Pete Carroll there
running that, you know, running that team.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I think they that's a good point I heard.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I heard a rumor that they like Jant and then
they want to come back at double dip and get
the quis Shawn Judkins from Ohio State and then have
a two back attack. You know, Judkins be kind of
the jet back and then Janny would be the you
know dot the I back there with what they run.
So I you know that that could be a leaf,
a little little maneuver there if they do something like that.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
For me based on what happens in the pigs ahead
of the Broncos. I think you have that contingency plan
where you think about moving back right, because the.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Way I look at it, you're trying to.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Arm yourself with as much young talent as you can.
If you go long in at twenty with any guy
at any position, you name him, you call them once again.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I think, in my opinion, you've done yourself with disservice.
But twenty isn't like five six seven, eight, nine, ten.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
You know, I know, because once again, this is this
is why I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
The way I'm thinking. You're not up that high.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Unless you're telling me the Broncos are going to move up.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's a whole different conversation. I understand. I don't know
if you can get that much more with twenty if.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Again, because you move, you move back, someone's gonna want
to move up to get a particular player.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So the phone is going to start ringing.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And you you're asking them, well, what are you willing
to give me to move up to the twentieth spot,
Because if you're calling me, that.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Means you're desperate. So you move back, and you now
swap where.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
They are in the first round and you pick up
another what second or maybe a first in twenty twenty six, Well,
most of.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
The desperate teams are in the first ten to fifteen though, Well, okay,
I'm just let's say, let's say it's one of those teams.
So let's start talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Because youve got teams that have got to figure something out.
New Orleans is in cap hell and they've got to
get cheap, right, Well, that's the way to get cheap
is to do draft picks cross controlled contracts.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You know, maybe maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
They're a team wants moof they're gonna to get a
quarterackcause they're gona have to punt on Derek Carr just
to get cap compliant.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So they're gonna have to get a quarterback. They're gonna
have to.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Get a you know, probably like a Jackson Dark somebody
like that.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You know, they may need two first round draft picks
in order to be able to pull that off.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah, because okay, there are nineteen other picks above the Broncos.
This draft has a lot of talented players, and a
lot of those talented players who may be projected to
go in the first round, they may not all go
because someone else is going to make a move. I
remember last year and with the eighth pick, no one
expected Atlanta to do.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
What they did and move up to get Pinnicks. That
changed everything.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Every other player that was projected above that they will
push down. So the buckles are going to be in
a position where, you know what, you're gonna have your
opportunity whether you stay at twenty, move back, but you're
going to be able to acquire young talent.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I truly believe that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I mean, it's not as top heavy as some of
the drafts where you've got, you know, twenty thirty guys
there at the top. He really has like ten twelve
guys at the top, and then it's kind of fat
in the middle from twelve to like pick one hundred
where the skill level from the play. Yeah, but I mean,
I'm just saying like, if you got if you got
somebody that's desperate, tone, it's looking a good up, especially
if there's a quarterback that they want, somebody like that
that's just sitting there or.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Running back desperate. Do you all see a tight end though.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
That you guys think is that joker type tight end
that Sean Payton wants.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I mean, I like Gadsden, I think he can, but
he's not a back.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, gads I'm thinking more of a tight end.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
A gas is more like Jimmy Graham where he's the
tight end or the wide receiver. He's not like a
He's not like Reggie Bush where he was a back.
You know that kind of thing. Kasden to me, fits
that roll. There's there's a couple of running backs out there.
Let's get that one running back. Gosh, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I'm drawing a blank right now. There's a running back.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
He started off at receiver, he converted a running back,
And I'm trying a huge blank.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
But think about this when you when you say joker,
and I know that term has taken on a whole
different connotation because Coach Payton uses it all the time.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
What I hear every time I hear it. I know
Ben doesn't like that phrase. When I hear, I.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Hear versatility impact players every time I hear him say that.
So that player that you bring in, he doesn't necessarily
have to be a running back. It's great if he
is and he possessed debo type skills. But then you
think about Tyler war You can use Tylawaran like he used.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
What's with Jday's field? Yeah, you could use him the
same way on the center. You can flex him out,
he could throw.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The ball, he could be an inline blocker. But I
like Elijah Royo too at the University of Miami because
all you're asking for in this dynamic joker type player
is that guy to be a game changer, a guy who.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Would him in the first round. No, you're you're looking
for You're looking for mismatches. I mean, everybody's saying a word, joker,
what are you What you're looking for is mismatch that right?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I mean, at the end of the day, britsharn Smith
that at a SMU, he was a slot wide receiver
at five to ten one hundred ninety six pounds are
converted to running back, so he can kind of he
kind of does both.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Could be that that third.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Down guy catches the ball, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
He's not too light one hundred ninety six. That's TWU
pund He's not too light to be uh, you know
any of that. He could do both. So that's somebody
you could look at.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Because all we're talking about here is we're talking about
speed and physicality. To me, it's about you got to
put a track team out there. Oh you got to
put a team out that just gonna beat the hell
out of people physically.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
We're just going to run through your face. Why think
you need a power back? I think you need somebody
can catch balls too, like for sure, But I think
you need a power guy.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And to me, that's either Mario Hampton or caer Caleb Johnson.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
You know somebody at six foot two, twenty five plus,
you know that it's it's back there that's gonna you know,
let's gonna put their face masking and move it.
Speaker 9 (28:37):
I like the Junkins kid out of Ohio State Couch
John Jenkins, that's the one I think. Uh, he's right
there at six two two twenty, that's the one I think.
I really think the Raiders are going to double dip
all that.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
That's comparable to Jamiir Gibbs who plays for the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
And look at that one two punch you got. He's
not that big.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, Gibbs gives as Judkins is a four four nine guy.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Where to those kind of guys, they have to be
jim rats because after two or three years, if you
not really on your workout game, you slowed.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I've seen those guys slow down.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
But well, for me, I think, and this is not comparable,
but I think Derrick Henry, and I think Eric.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Dickerson, and I think Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
All those guys were obviously larger than five to eleven six.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
They yes, they work, So.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
You do need a guy who has that mentality that
he has to work off the field, but he can
grind on the field as well.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
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Speaker 1 (30:06):
We'll let those. We'll let those. Somebody must say you.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Williams don't know if you guys saw him the TCU
wide receiver sixty five.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I bet him Posh will be being the joker.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I don't think he's big enough and really have enough
blocking to be a tight end, but he's he's definitely
a big, you know, big physical X receiver.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Well, I think we need to redefine the tight end
because think about what Kyle Pitts for.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
The Falcons really is. Yeah, he's just a big.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Wide receiver planing a tight end position. I mean in
my day playing against Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzalez kind
of bigger guys, but not that massive tight end like
Mark Mavarro was.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Back in the day.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Right, But you just want your tight end to be
able to flex out and have the ability to run routes.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
But but Cole Pitts is sixty six two forty seven,
save you on Williams is sixty five to twenty.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I don't think that.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
That that's where there's a twenty five on size, you know, Yeah,
but you could put that type of guy in the slide,
the heavy slot, right because now even though he's not
like a two forty two fifty type of guy, the
matchup you think about the match.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Up, always say that, man, the guy's in the slot. Yeah,
you don't like the heavy slide. Marcus playing for big slot.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
But Dontrell Endon also really kind of helped pioneer. I
don't remember him for the Chargers, helped kind of pioneer
that heavy slide.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Now that's what you get. I mean, Mike Evans, that's
what he is.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
You know, most teams would consider him a next receiver,
but really he plays a lot of that heavy slot,
especially when you get down the goal line.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
They do that slot fade with him. Oh yes, yes, unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Right, that's him saying, you got a six to five
guy lighting.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Up in the slot. That would the fade? What are
you gonna do? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
And in basketball, like you said, I mean basketball, like.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Football, you want to create matchups.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
You put that large guy in the slot, whether it's
a tight end or it is the actual receiver. Now
you're getting the defensive unit's third best corner, right, it
means is a nigger when you got a height advantage
throwing up all those passes between the numbers that the
Broncos did not take advantage of last year with their
tight ends, that's.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Now readily available. Yeah, I still I don't think you're
I was not.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Like even last year, we could have utilized our tight
ends more than we did because we showed on tight.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Ends you know, end it worked, and then we forgot
they existed right after that, like literally just a moment
after that day was.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Over, forgot the existed. Yeah, but I think that next
year they'll, hopefully they'll be utilized. I think so too,
regardless of who's there.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
The ken of me when it comes to this whole
like Joker dispatch thing is when you're running a guy
onto the field and you've got opposing DC, you know,
the defensive assistant up there to booth and he's.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Hurted by that guy.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Well, they're putting the guy in and I'm counting him
as what a tight end receiver whatever, I'm counting him
ass and I'm telling them to say defensive personnel to
match that, because that means I'm accidentally getting the linebacker
on the guy plays receiver or whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
That's right, and that's that's what I'm getting at it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Since those guys, when you run those guys on the field,
they got to make a choice. Am I putting a
linebacker on this guy in sacrificing speed?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Am I putting a corner on this.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Guy in sacrifice and sacrifice and the run stop?
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What am I doing? In to your point, Nick Bolden,
if he's in there, what do you do? You're okay?
You feel comfortable? Yeah? I think so, because he he'sfinitely
shut the run down.
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I'm well, yeah, I don't necessarily want to be covered
a lot, but but you know, you see how it
is Broncos country, and now we gotta hit a break.
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