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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What about doing Broncos country tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
That call courtesy of Kevin Kougler with Westwood One, and we're.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Gonna go right.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's the Kway Commas Spels Hotline and bring on the guests.
The man of the hour many a year, really, Coach
John paganod coach, how.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
You doing doing great? Fellas? How you guys doing.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's good to hear your voice. Uh, you know, it's
been a heck of a season out there for Washington,
for you guys. We've sat here talking about it all year.
We wish coach was back in here to walk us
through how the season was going.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
And man, I well it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Had been just just a special, special season all.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The way around. But how you been. Man, it's good
to hear that voice.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
No, it's I appreciate that, fellas. And I missed you guys.
I mean that was you know, my time, my once
a week weekly little spot with you dudes. Was you know,
being able to just talk sports, talk life. It was, Uh,
it was awesome. But no, what a what a fun
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time we had to year, you know, ever since since
we got here, you know, from day one and just
the building of between AP and DQ and and what
they've established and what the players have built on it
was you know, it was something that we can keep
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building off of.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Be coach.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
You know since you were you've been there with the
Washington Commanders, and there's there was a lot of discussion
late in the season about, you know, which guy was
more deservant of the Rookie of the Year, and I,
for one, even though we have Bononises the quarterback here, felt.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
As though far and away, Jane Dais.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Had really outperformed what people have projected of him.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But you're there every day.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
What is it that makes him stand out so much
and should be a revered quarterback in this league?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You know, besides what everybody sees on the field and
how magical he is with his you know, in game
situational stuff, how how calm collective. It's just he's a
great person. Like he's he is fun just to be around.
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Every days. He's one of the first ones in there,
he's one of the last one to leave, and and
that just shows you know, his work ethic of of
you know, what what he's been all about, and it's
been since day one, and he's he's just I mean,
you you see it day in and day out. Just
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what a you know, great person, great quarterback, just just
you know, the leadership qualities, everything you know that you
guys see out there on the field, he's even better
in the building.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's good to hear talking with the Commanders assistant coach
and our dear friend here coach John Bcgonnell coach, How
how was the ride this season?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Because if I told you when you.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Were taking that job and you you were getting ready
to go out you're going out there and everything, that
you were going to make the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
In year one, you would have laughed at me. And
there you.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Guys were, hell yeah, there you.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Guys were, uh, you know, ultimately unfortunately losing to the
uh uh you know, the eventual Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles.
But if you got to lose to somebody, that's that's
at least respectable. You know, how how was the ride
this year? What was the point in the season?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Was a training camp?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Was it during the season where you said, you know what,
maybe we got something, we might be able to pull
this thing off.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Honestly, you know, when you're starting out and you're building
and phase one in phase two and and you're seeing
the culture that like I said about what d Q
and AP you know started there and then the brotherhood
of the team. And I don't want to like sound
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you know, Nick Cally could be very cliche ish, and
it was. It's real. It's it's a bond between players
and coaches and and it's uh, you know where you
wake up every morning and you just love going into
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work and being able to you know, be around you
know people every day. Players coaches that you're you know,
building those relationships with and it you know, it really
started then and then you know, you you finish, ohta strong.
You get a little break before summer, and then you
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come back, you know for training camp and it and
it and it took right off and then you know,
you start playing those games early on in the year
and and you're you're you know, seeing what our offense
is doing, the way they're moving the football, you know,
defensively of getting timely stops here and there, because your
main focus when you have an offense. The way our
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offense was playing is is how fast can we get
the ball back to them? And and just seeing how
they were building and and do you see the effort
of the players out there on the field. And then
when it when you get going in a season and
you start you know, putting together you know, wins here,
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win there, and then next thing you know, it's it's
it's it's something that you go to work every day
and it's it's no, it's not your walking in going God,
I hope we can win. No, it's it's a mindset
of we're going to win this week and we know
what we have to do with the preparation, with everything
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that you know, goes into that weekly work and and
then you go play the game and and and uh yeah,
it was. It was unbelievable just every every week being
able to, you know, go out there and take it
batage of that next opportunity.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
You know, a coach, there's something that's being discussed here
in Denver and a lot of fans are in favor
of it. And it has to do with Von Miller,
guy that you coached, and there are whispers that in
the cost cutting maneuver, the Bills could decide to part
ways with him. Sometimes, So, as a guy that coached them,
what were your find memories and taking takeaways from a
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guy like von Miller.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's the love of the love of the game that
he had, how very detailed orientated he was, how smart
of a football player he was, of truly studying the game.
When you look at certain things when you're watching tape,
there'll be something because everybody sees a lot of different
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types of things, you know, Nick, when you're watching film
and you're in there. You know, when I was coaching
the outside backers and Vonn will be like, hey, we'll
run that run that back one one more time. Let
me see, let me let me see his foot, let
me see how his feet are, how his stance is
in this set. And then he's you know, then he's
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sitting there like just just staring at it, and he's like, Okay,
I got to thank you for the next one. And
I think that, you know, comes with time, because I
think a lot of players and a lot of veterans
teach those younger players. You know, younger players coming into
the league just don't truly understand how to watch tape.
And I think how he grew as a player and
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just being around him, and the joy it was for
me to be able to have that opportunity to coach, uh,
you know, a Hall of Fame player one day in
bond Is is something special.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Talking with Commanders coach John Bagano, coach, you know, I
speaking of that NFC championship game.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You got to see him three times this year.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
How tough is it sitting there trying to trying to
draw something off to and maybe stop is the wrong world,
but slow down.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
The three head of Jabberwaukee that is Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, he he he had a you know, unbelievable year.
Uh you know, not only the three times that we
played him, but against everybody, you know, everybody that he
played in the National Football League. He's unbelievable. How you
know that that that whole offensive scheme of what Kellen
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was doing was you know, really built almost like it's
a great you know, offensive setup for him as a runner.
And that offensive line plays at a high level. They
do a great job, you know everything from all the
different types of runs, the variations, and uh you could
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see that and you could see how how he ran
and you know, it's it's a mate. I don't know
how many times he's played sixteen or seventeen games in
a year. When he is when he is on, he
is he is you know, very hard to stop coach.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
As a guy who coached on the defensive side of
the ball. Do you think because because I love this
conversation talking about Saquon Barkley, but for me, it's bigger
than him. I mean, we saw this past season some
running backs really give balance to their offense. Do you
think now after that performance from those group of running backs,
Squon being one of those guys, James Cook.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Derick Henry being another.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Then you look at Dave Montgomery and Jamiir Gibbs in Detroit,
do you think now the narrative changes in the league
about how they now evaluate and view the running back position.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, especially when you have those types of spressful guys.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I mean, I can't remember offhand, but then maybe you
could tell we win a couple of weeks in a
row of Shee Kwon, Who's Atlanta Bijon and.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Then you know, two other bags and it was like these.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
These run because you're seeing it and the more you
see it. You got to be able to run the
football in the National Football League, And you know, you
hear everybody say, you know, to be to be able
to stop the run it, you got to be able
to run the football and you see those teams of
those explosive types of backs that they get to add
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into the programs, and the offensive coaches are doing such
a real great job, and you're seeing it more and more,
and I said it. I said it a lot on
the show. The different ability for teams with between jet
motions and all those swap type of actions makes it
a challenge for those defenses to be able to fit
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those different types of run because not only when one
guy uh starts from the right and works back to
the left, we're all falling back a gap, but then
they're bringing emotion, adding somebody in and then being able to,
you know, swap another player back over to the other side.
It puts a challenge, and you're seeing more and more
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of that from offenses around the National Football League. Nobody
is just lining up and saying here, this is what
we do. You get a little bit of that, but
you're seeing more and more of teams incorporating that, and
to me, that's that that gives you the challenge of
the defense to be able to make sure you are
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gap sound and the minute ye're just one and you
know this nick one little step one pill that running
back's going to hit it and it could go for
a big one.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Talking with coach John Bigano, coach, you guys started the
season seven to two, and then there was that to
Bockle at the end of the Steelers game, what a
soul crushing loss. And that looked like the wheels kind
of came all for a game or two. You guys
drop three, but then it was a story of resilience.
He bounce back, you beat Tennessee, you had the bye week,
and then you rattle off another five or six straight
wins to.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Put you in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
What what turned it around at a midpoint in the
season when you know, you sort of, like I said,
you had that soul crushing loss. I raddled a couple
losses off after that, and then just the thing turned
around and took off.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
What was the catalyst for that?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Nothing? Nothing really changed, man Like, we came to work
every day and it was you know, it was crushing,
you know, to lose a game like that. And then
I believe we went, you know to Philly on a
short week, which you know, played good for three and
a half quarters and and you know it got away
from us in the fourth quarter. There on that Thursday
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night game, had a long week to recover and then
end up you know tying it, you know, having a
chance to tie it against Dallas, ended up losing it.
But every week stayed the same. There was no panic,
there was no there was no hey we got to
do this, Hey we got to go in there and
change all this. We got to do that. We just
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had to learn and just keep you know, keep working
on the basic fundamentals, the proper techniques, and go to
work in practice. And that's you know, and that's what
we did. And I'm gonna keep saying it. It's a
credit to our culture. It's a credit to dq of
of what he brought, you know, into those rooms each
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and every week, because you know, you go through a stretch,
like you said, where you start off seven and two
and then you go through a you know, a three
game stretch there that you end up losing three. And
you know, I've seen a lot of teams we've been
on it. I've seen teams where that could really you know,
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uh take it, you know, make a season end even
worse for a team. The one thing about us was
we just kept going in there and keep working and
Wednesday was a Wednesday. At Thursday was a Thursday. And
you know, our Fridays were upbeat and going, and you
know we brought made sure to you know, have that
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great energy on Sundays around there and be able to,
you know, go play for sixty minutes. But you know,
it's about keeping everything the same. It's not about oh God,
we have to change this, change that. Just go to work,
show up and do your job.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Coach Wegana, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
We got about a minute left in this particular segment.
But you know, being a basketball fan like I know
you are, we both share that the same come in.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Love for the game.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
But I have to ask I have to ask you
about your Boston Celtics before the All Star break. They
were seven and one before the break. On March second,
they played the Denver Nuggets. Here can your Boston Celtics
run it back and repeat?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You know, I'm very confident I did get the tattoo.
I'll send you the ta.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
It was this.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
It was this summer, my first tattoo at age fifty seven.
It's you know, it's got the shamrock with the sea
and eighteen, you know banner eighteen on there. I left
room in there for nineteen.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It was a very very exciting run. You know, my
passion just like yours, Nick. We we love watching basketball,
being able to you know, be a part of just
another you know, another sport to something, and just being
able to see my kids, you know, who are both
diehard Celtic fans, because you know how it is you
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grow up in a family and you kind of just
ride or die with you know what everybody's what everybody's
cheering for, and it was something that was special.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, coach, we appreciate you taking the time.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Looking forward to Broncos are playing at Washington this year,
so we'll be making the trip on out there and
have some fun with that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I'd be remiss if I didn't tell you. Orlanda.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Franklin said to tell you what up. I saw him
a little bit earlier today, said to tell you hi. Uh,
and man, we appreciate you taking some time tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I appreciate it, Fellaws, thanks for having me. And uh,
it was good hearing that.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Music, you know, Advan's good hearing your voice. Look forward
to talking to you again soon. I'm catching up with
you again.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Good luck out there with the Commanders coach John paganne
a Broncos Country and I gotta hit a break.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
We'll be back after this.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Welcome back to it, Broncos Country tonight. Benjamin all Bright,
Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here with you.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We can verify. Coach Bagano did get the tattoo. He
sent it to us. It is reru, Yeah it is.
It is definitely real.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Lying about the arm, he didn't need to send me
a picture of that, but no, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
It is on the art. It is on the art.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
He h Yeah, he did. Him and his Boston Celtics. Slow.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Let's get to hear his voice. Man, I miss coach.
I miss him being in here, you know once a week.
Get to chop it up with him and uh god man,
honestly the breaks were the best around here at that point, uh,
because we used to cut each other up. But glad
he's having all that success out there Washington right now.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
You know what I asked him, I said, what happened?
What would have happened had Washington made it to the
Super Bowl? And one the whole darn thing is what
do you say? He said he was going to get
a full back tattoo, a big w he can't, he discussed, said,
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a full back tattoo.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's it, all right, Well we get a Broncos Commander's
Super Bowl next year. I'm expecting like a mount Rushmore
tattoo with the three of the four of us. Use
me on the on the as the faces and because
couch you me and Grant on like on his back
shoulder somewhere. I just want my mustache on one of
the peaks right now, right you.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Know, be a four.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It would be like, as I said, be like Coach
Phano's on one hand and then three of us off
on the other side.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Here's what you're committing both Grant and I too, because
you failed to kind of throw this in the mix
that you're saying. If it is a super Bowl between
the Commanders and the Broncos, that would be something that
Coach Bugano had to do. A Mount Rushmore owned his
body whatever of our faces, yes, which you did not
kind of elaborate on what would be the consequence for
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we don't.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
We don't have one. We're just volunteering him. She was
having to make the super Bowl outside here.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I'm not seeing a problem other than having my face
tattooed on another mass body, which might be a little weird.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yes, that that would be weird.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And I don't think Coach Bmgano would agree with greed
to that because something about there, somewhat another man's is
tattooed on your body, and it's not like someone like
profound in history, right, I beg to.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Differ that mustache is profound in history. Well repaired nicely
with Ben's tattoo of Comrade Brian Edwards on his back.
Oh really, yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Can you?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Can we ever reveal?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Legitimately I'm the only person to have ever served in
our military that does not have a tattoo. I firmly
believe that I'm literally the only person who never got one.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Well, I got one late in college because that was
really late to the party.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And my whole thing was I got to make sure
I think.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
This thing through, because you're gonna wear this tattoo like
luggage like you like you like old luggage, you can't
get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So they were luggage, Well, yeah you can, but this
type of luggage you can't. Well you know what I mean.
Take that back.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
You can, but it would be massively expensive to go
into some terribles. Yeah, it looked terrible, so I had
to put some thought into it. Now, my thought that
I put into my tattoo doesn't really fit well with
other people.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I really don't care.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
It's always I look at it every day and I go, well,
it fits the reason and the purpose.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I wanted to fit well.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Like for me.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
The thing that bothered me about it though, is just like, Okay,
you got a tattoo as Simon and Garfunkle, But why
would you just get Garfunkle.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Because he's of the group.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, loves guardfunk But once again, that's the whole thing,
Like it's the lead singer. Even though they were kind
of duo, you always knew that, Like there was a
difference between the two when they sang songs.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So yes, it was like it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
When you were telling me to get a John Oats tattoo,
I'm like, coach, getting just John Oates, You're not getting
Daryl Hall, Like what are we?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Well, and in such a waste like that, you gotta
let the band up. You get one on the left
ing each other right now too?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
What's this otherly ridiculous. Yeah, it's just killing me, just
killing it. That means that we never get a Hall
of Note tore. I know, I had just one one,
one thing I need.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Still, There's there's two concerts that I wanted to see
one more time before and one.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Of them I haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And I bought tickets when Tears for Fears was touring
last time, and then I forgot about it because I
bought him so far in advance, I completely forgot about it.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
You didn't go.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
You purchased tickets, good tickets too, only to forget that
you purchased tickets. And here it is, I thought was
I was the one that played the game for ten
years where I had to use my head a lot,
and here it is that you're forgetting you brought.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I'm just stupid. Let's not see somebody.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I'm just.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
There's nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
There's no no you know, it's deftly happening there, there's
no there's no apropheeing in my brain.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I'm just I'm just that dumb.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And I found out I missed it because I was
looking at Twitter and people were tweeting about being at
the Tears for Fears concert.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I heard it was one of their best shows I ever.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, huh, thanks for that. GREN appreciate it. It's a
phenomenal show. I missed every bit of it.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That was one of the ones Tears Fears and then
I've seen Holodoats before, but I wanted to do it.
I wanted to do it one last, you know, one
more time. So usually man really quickly.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I am not like your typical concert goer, right because
for me, when I go to a concert, I want
to be entertained. If I'm spending seventy ninety dollars for
a ticket or way more.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Okay, well, I want to be entertained. I don't just
stand there and just playing no, no, Yeah, there's some shows. Yeah,
you gotta you gotta have some stage.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yes, I have some stage.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
One of the worst, uh and I guess I'll out
I'm here one of the worst bands I ever saw
with no uh, and we'll get excited. I think your
idea on the Pro Bowl is interesting. I want to
get to that. You just did a video on it's
up on Twitter. One of the worst bands I ever
saw doing that was a band called Jet. I don't
know if you remember them or not. I think we
have some of their audios. Are you Gonna be My Girl?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Are you gonna be? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
They literally it was like karaoke with instruments. They just
they did not move. They just stood there the whole time,
just played it thing. There was nothing else going on.
They just stood there. They were They were the opening
act for Oasis at night and they just stood there
and just played their their It was so like Wild
went away Oasis gout on the stage and how energetic
they you know, they were versus these guys who are
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energy rockers.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I mean the songs are energetic that they that they have,
but that sounds like animatronics at six Flags, I mean Conna,
it was like watching.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Karry Oaks on stage going back out on tour. Yeah,
well until Nolan Liam fight each other again. I thought
they were gonna fight each other on stage at night.
I was watching them. I was in Dallas. I thought
I thought they were gonna fight on stage at night.
But they were in Jetdak the entertained of the crowd.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
He's moving all over Noles moothly and was they were
all you know, it was a bunch of fun and
this opening band, which at the time Jet was in
their heyday because they had their single out. They were
you know, they're opening Afro. I'm like, man, this is
gonna be this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
And it was not.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It was pad. It was just no stage presence whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Here's the one man I wanted to see in concert
that I never got a chance to see. And I
think they came to Red Rocks last year, if I'm
not mistaken. The Rolls and Stones didn't they come to somewhere?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I saw the Stones in ninety I think it's ninety
nine or two thousand. That's the last time I saw him.
I can't even twenty years later. I can't even imagine.
But they're still out there doing it? Are they doing
any more tours?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Was that the last last one? I'm sure they'll do
another one sponsored by AARP? Okay, isn't that funny?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Though?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
You know bands say well this is the last go round,
the final farewell and Elton John did a like six times.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I think the share is still on the final Farewell
from nineteen nine.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Nice. That's hilarious. It's like at some point you're supposed
to quit, right, That's what last me. He when those
Sweet Sweet two dollars to roll it in. I am
mad at them. They might as well just said the
one more time to be again. First, you put a
video out on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You were talking about alternations to the Pro Bowl, and
you had a kind of interesting idea where you suggested
that the Pro Bowl guys take on legs.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, yeah, that's I'm calling them street legends.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Well, because you take a whole bunch of guys who
did not make it in the high school, didn't advance
their college or the pros, but they were very talented
because life kind of got in the way. But you
take those guys who hung you to prove themselves. You
put a purse out there for those guys, just like
you put for the NFL guys. Obviously, the money's not
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going to be on the same level, but there's money
and a reputation and bragging rights on the table. You
put them in the flight football game and let's get it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I don't know how you pick the street legends per
se for that, but I'm interesting the idea. But I
started applying that to other All Star games, like like
like we have the NBA All Stars against the Harlem Globetrotters,
or the NBA All Stars.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Against the Hot Sauce and the and one guys. Well
see the and one guys.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Are you gotta go on YouTube and find street Balls
on YouTube?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, that's talking about go YouTube Hot Sauce and look
at that stuff back in the day.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
But as far as.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Today is concerned, you go into National Street Ballers and
you put that team together, street Balls and have them
play against NBA guys.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
See, yes, I want to see that. I'm okay with that.
I'm making football.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I'm like, how are we picking the the guys who
didn't make it? Kind of thing, like, how are we
picking that?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That's easy?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But basketball is super easy. I mean you got you
got to play all the YouTubers and all that.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
It's easy for the NFL to do because right now
in the NFL for the past couple of years have
been plugging flag football, especially women's flag football, right right,
And we know that flag football is going to be
an Olympics, right what.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Maybe twenty twenty eight or something like that.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So what you do? You have a flag football league
throughout the year and all of them like you do
like a flag like youthful flag football. Then you take
that tournament playing whatever you want to play it, why
wall the sport's down in Orlando, and then from that
collection you pick an All Star of that and that group.
The finality is that you're playing against NFL players, because reality.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Is the All Star Games in and of themselves have
all kind of lost their luster. Unless it's baseball. That's different.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, that's a little bit different. And and honestly because
baseball is such a safer sport. You know what about
the four Nations face off that hockey this year?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
What is uh?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
What do you like?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You said, hockey? Yes, yes you have. What is what
is this sport?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Because I was under the impression it was basically men's
figure skating.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It was a stick and it's a puck.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
You put it in net and you get a chance
to check people gets the boards.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
One that Brian boy Tannel plays three fights in the
first nine seconds of the USA Canada game last week.
There's a hard fields, right, Aaron, I'm gonna be honest
with you. In Canada, I sort of get it, but
you took it all on the way out and it
was in Montreal. Yeah, that part was embarrassing, Yes, but
I mean I get why they're mad Championship game tomorrow
night in Boston.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
See, see, this is what I like.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
So you put it in one host country and then
you just move it around because I thought it was great.
Canada on their home ice, right playing in Montreal against
the Team USA, they lose after blowing the national anthem,
and then all of a sudden, now you bring it
back to the United States and play the finalitey of that,
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that whole four Nations in Boston.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
To me, I love it.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I'm sort of formaty.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
We guess we gotta find something to spice these things
up a little bit. The Baseball Star Game is what
it is, and it's it's kind of timeless and it
still works. But the other All Star Games, I mean,
you know, Mac mcclun comes out once a year to
remind us he's the best guy on earth the Kondunka
basketball and then disappears into irrelevance, you know, immediately after,
you know, does anybody even participate in the other stuff anymore?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I mean that you get to yeah, the game.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Self, listen, the Skills game, the skills events, those are
the really exciting ones for me. They've become more exciting
than the game itself. Well, right, but to spice it up,
you use international players like the guy want wins the
dunk Contest. Just think about the people some of the
people who've won the Dunk Contest in the past couple
of years, right, some of those guys have just been hey,
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here's a guy, he could just jump. Well when you
think about Aaron Goyd and Zach Mavine, Now that was
one for the ages for me, right, And.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
There's the dudes that opt out of the opt out
of this stuff becausey don't want to get embarrassed by
somebody else.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Who lose the dunk competition as ego man.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Meanwhile, like I said, you got Mac McClung, who's career
in the NBA career earnings is one hundred and thirty
two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
They made three hundred thousand for winning the dunk.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right, It comes out to the Dunk Contest because that's
where he makes his bread for the next few years.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
John Moran has said that he's gonna do it next year. Yeah,
we'll see. He said Lebron was gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Tanto charyon Mello, Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do it. And
what did he do fake the fraud, hold out, just
like he did the All Star Game.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, exactly. See, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It's you know it to me, like it's gotta be
the I mean, if you're gotta do this stuff, you
gotta have participation. Because if it's the.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
All Stars and then the stars are participating, what are
we doing?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Once again, this is where I feel that they should
bring back like those street ballers, right, those street balls.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So popular back in the day. That and one versus
that would have sold out the professor. I know that's saying, right, professor,
all the dudes.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
The Professor was like like to see, who can I
can compare him to hmm, oh man, I'm trying to
I'm trying to think Jason Williams.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Okay, don't dope, And.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
It was it was highly unexpected to see him do
the things that he was actually doing.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah you got.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I mean, Ray for Allston is probably the best and
one player that ever played in the league. But some
of these other dudes, I mean, yeah, you have the Professor,
you had Philip HOOTSOFCE champion. There was so many, man,
they were they were so good. Gracia Bouchet remember that.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
It was just so many different guys and and the
professor was like, like you were joking earlier about ronniey
Moss snatch and chains. That's kind of like what professor
would do. Two guys on the basketball court.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, you had oh god, who was it? You had
trouble machine and headache and like all them dudes. Like
it was just like it was like an American Gladiators.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
It was.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
You can't forget about escalade. Yeah, big guy baby Shack,
oh man. There was so many. Who was the pharmacist?
It dribbled all over the place.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It was.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, there was so many, so many.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
But that is the way that you breathe life back
into the NBA.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
All Star Game.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, I think getting guys like that, whether they are
homegrown or into guys, because let's just be totally honest. Well,
you look at certain aspects of the game, and especially
the ISO ball that a lot of our players here
in the States do opposed to those over overseas.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's isoball.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I mean, Grant mentioned John Moran, there's a lot of
io ball, and then James Harden He's the king of
ISO ball right right, and we.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Haven't I mean, like the game though. Even the NBA
game is an ISO ball anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's it's it's a Euro style We're chucking from three
patient space, you know, offense.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I mean, that's the whole league anymore. But IO ball
was during our year. I mean, that's what it was.
It went from being you know, you kind of went
from like the Jordan era into the ice, the Ai
Iso era.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Tracy McGrady, yeah, Tam mac, all those guys. Yeah, Vince Carter,
you kind of went. You kind of went into the
Iso era basketball, and then d'An toni, you know, started
the pace and then they started spreading it out and
shooting after that.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
But this is why view the NBA when you look
at all the professional leagues, and you would think that
hockey has the international market lockdown because a lot of
the players that come from Sweden, rush or whatever. But
the NBA is the most popular professional sport in this
league that has international appeal. So for All Star Week,
you invite some of those international players, you're only up
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the ante and now you're already global bringing those international
players to compete against NBA players. NBA players don't want
to lose the international players. Think about what happened in
the Olympics when they're playing Wimbiyama and Team France.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
They want to lose.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, I get it, I'm here for it. I think
it's an interesting content. We should explore a little more.
We got a break, Broncos country that i'd be back
after this
What about doing Broncos country tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
That call courtesy of Kevin Kougler with Westwood One, and we're.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Gonna go right.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's the Kway Commas Spels Hotline and bring on the guests.
The man of the hour many a year, really, Coach
John paganod coach, how.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
You doing doing great? Fellas? How you guys doing.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's good to hear your voice. Uh, you know, it's
been a heck of a season out there for Washington,
for you guys. We've sat here talking about it all year.
We wish coach was back in here to walk us
through how the season was going.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
And man, I well it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Had been just just a special, special season all.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The way around. But how you been. Man, it's good
to hear that voice.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
No, it's I appreciate that, fellas. And I missed you guys.
I mean that was you know, my time, my once
a week weekly little spot with you dudes. Was you know,
being able to just talk sports, talk life. It was, Uh,
it was awesome. But no, what a what a fun
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time we had to year, you know, ever since since
we got here, you know, from day one and just
the building of between AP and DQ and and what
they've established and what the players have built on it
was you know, it was something that we can keep
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building off of.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Be coach.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
You know since you were you've been there with the
Washington Commanders, and there's there was a lot of discussion
late in the season about, you know, which guy was
more deservant of the Rookie of the Year, and I,
for one, even though we have Bononises the quarterback here, felt.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
As though far and away, Jane Dais.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Had really outperformed what people have projected of him.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But you're there every day.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
What is it that makes him stand out so much
and should be a revered quarterback in this league?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You know, besides what everybody sees on the field and
how magical he is with his you know, in game
situational stuff, how how calm collective. It's just he's a
great person. Like he's he is fun just to be around.
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Every days. He's one of the first ones in there,
he's one of the last one to leave, and and
that just shows you know, his work ethic of of
you know, what what he's been all about, and it's
been since day one, and he's he's just I mean,
you you see it day in and day out. Just
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what a you know, great person, great quarterback, just just
you know, the leadership qualities, everything you know that you
guys see out there on the field, he's even better
in the building.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That's good to hear talking with the Commanders assistant coach
and our dear friend here coach John Bcgonnell coach, How
how was the ride this season?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Because if I told you when you.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Were taking that job and you you were getting ready
to go out you're going out there and everything, that
you were going to make the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
In year one, you would have laughed at me. And
there you.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Guys were, hell yeah, there you.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Guys were, uh, you know, ultimately unfortunately losing to the
uh uh you know, the eventual Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles.
But if you got to lose to somebody, that's that's
at least respectable. You know, how how was the ride
this year? What was the point in the season?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Was a training camp?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Was it during the season where you said, you know what,
maybe we got something, we might be able to pull
this thing off.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Honestly, you know, when you're starting out and you're building
and phase one in phase two and and you're seeing
the culture that like I said about what d Q
and AP you know started there and then the brotherhood
of the team. And I don't want to like sound
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you know, Nick Cally could be very cliche ish, and
it was. It's real. It's it's a bond between players
and coaches and and it's uh, you know where you
wake up every morning and you just love going into
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work and being able to you know, be around you
know people every day. Players coaches that you're you know,
building those relationships with and it you know, it really
started then and then you know, you you finish, ohta strong.
You get a little break before summer, and then you
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come back, you know for training camp and it and
it and it took right off and then you know,
you start playing those games early on in the year
and and you're you're you know, seeing what our offense
is doing, the way they're moving the football, you know,
defensively of getting timely stops here and there, because your
main focus when you have an offense. The way our
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offense was playing is is how fast can we get
the ball back to them? And and just seeing how
they were building and and do you see the effort
of the players out there on the field. And then
when it when you get going in a season and
you start you know, putting together you know, wins here,
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win there, and then next thing you know, it's it's
it's it's something that you go to work every day
and it's it's no, it's not your walking in going God,
I hope we can win. No, it's it's a mindset
of we're going to win this week and we know
what we have to do with the preparation, with everything
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that you know, goes into that weekly work and and
then you go play the game and and and uh yeah,
it was. It was unbelievable just every every week being
able to, you know, go out there and take it
batage of that next opportunity.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
You know, a coach, there's something that's being discussed here
in Denver and a lot of fans are in favor
of it. And it has to do with Von Miller,
guy that you coached, and there are whispers that in
the cost cutting maneuver, the Bills could decide to part
ways with him. Sometimes, So, as a guy that coached them,
what were your find memories and taking takeaways from a
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guy like von Miller.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's the love of the love of the game that
he had, how very detailed orientated he was, how smart
of a football player he was, of truly studying the game.
When you look at certain things when you're watching tape,
there'll be something because everybody sees a lot of different
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types of things, you know, Nick, when you're watching film
and you're in there. You know, when I was coaching
the outside backers and Vonn will be like, hey, we'll
run that run that back one one more time. Let
me see, let me let me see his foot, let
me see how his feet are, how his stance is
in this set. And then he's you know, then he's
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sitting there like just just staring at it, and he's like, Okay,
I got to thank you for the next one. And
I think that, you know, comes with time, because I
think a lot of players and a lot of veterans
teach those younger players. You know, younger players coming into
the league just don't truly understand how to watch tape.
And I think how he grew as a player and
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just being around him, and the joy it was for
me to be able to have that opportunity to coach, uh,
you know, a Hall of Fame player one day in
bond Is is something special.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Talking with Commanders coach John Bagano, coach, you know, I
speaking of that NFC championship game.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You got to see him three times this year.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
How tough is it sitting there trying to trying to
draw something off to and maybe stop is the wrong world,
but slow down.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
The three head of Jabberwaukee that is Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, he he he had a you know, unbelievable year.
Uh you know, not only the three times that we
played him, but against everybody, you know, everybody that he
played in the National Football League. He's unbelievable. How you
know that that that whole offensive scheme of what Kellen
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was doing was you know, really built almost like it's
a great you know, offensive setup for him as a runner.
And that offensive line plays at a high level. They
do a great job, you know everything from all the
different types of runs, the variations, and uh you could
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see that and you could see how how he ran
and you know, it's it's a mate. I don't know
how many times he's played sixteen or seventeen games in
a year. When he is when he is on, he
is he is you know, very hard to stop coach.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
As a guy who coached on the defensive side of
the ball. Do you think because because I love this
conversation talking about Saquon Barkley, but for me, it's bigger
than him. I mean, we saw this past season some
running backs really give balance to their offense. Do you
think now after that performance from those group of running backs,
Squon being one of those guys, James Cook.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Derick Henry being another.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Then you look at Dave Montgomery and Jamiir Gibbs in Detroit,
do you think now the narrative changes in the league
about how they now evaluate and view the running back position.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, especially when you have those types of spressful guys.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I mean, I can't remember offhand, but then maybe you
could tell we win a couple of weeks in a
row of Shee Kwon, Who's Atlanta Bijon and.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Then you know, two other bags and it was like these.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
These run because you're seeing it and the more you
see it. You got to be able to run the
football in the National Football League, And you know, you
hear everybody say, you know, to be to be able
to stop the run it, you got to be able
to run the football and you see those teams of
those explosive types of backs that they get to add
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into the programs, and the offensive coaches are doing such
a real great job, and you're seeing it more and more,
and I said it. I said it a lot on
the show. The different ability for teams with between jet
motions and all those swap type of actions makes it
a challenge for those defenses to be able to fit
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those different types of run because not only when one
guy uh starts from the right and works back to
the left, we're all falling back a gap, but then
they're bringing emotion, adding somebody in and then being able to,
you know, swap another player back over to the other side.
It puts a challenge, and you're seeing more and more
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of that from offenses around the National Football League. Nobody
is just lining up and saying here, this is what
we do. You get a little bit of that, but
you're seeing more and more of teams incorporating that, and
to me, that's that that gives you the challenge of
the defense to be able to make sure you are
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gap sound and the minute ye're just one and you
know this nick one little step one pill that running
back's going to hit it and it could go for
a big one.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Talking with coach John Bigano, coach, you guys started the
season seven to two, and then there was that to
Bockle at the end of the Steelers game, what a
soul crushing loss. And that looked like the wheels kind
of came all for a game or two. You guys
drop three, but then it was a story of resilience.
He bounce back, you beat Tennessee, you had the bye week,
and then you rattle off another five or six straight
wins to.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Put you in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
What what turned it around at a midpoint in the
season when you know, you sort of, like I said,
you had that soul crushing loss. I raddled a couple
losses off after that, and then just the thing turned
around and took off.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
What was the catalyst for that?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Nothing? Nothing really changed, man Like, we came to work
every day and it was you know, it was crushing,
you know, to lose a game like that. And then
I believe we went, you know to Philly on a
short week, which you know, played good for three and
a half quarters and and you know it got away
from us in the fourth quarter. There on that Thursday
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night game, had a long week to recover and then
end up you know tying it, you know, having a
chance to tie it against Dallas, ended up losing it.
But every week stayed the same. There was no panic,
there was no there was no hey we got to
do this, Hey we got to go in there and
change all this. We got to do that. We just
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had to learn and just keep you know, keep working
on the basic fundamentals, the proper techniques, and go to
work in practice. And that's you know, and that's what
we did. And I'm gonna keep saying it. It's a
credit to our culture. It's a credit to dq of
of what he brought, you know, into those rooms each
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and every week, because you know, you go through a stretch,
like you said, where you start off seven and two
and then you go through a you know, a three
game stretch there that you end up losing three. And
you know, I've seen a lot of teams we've been
on it. I've seen teams where that could really you know,
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uh take it, you know, make a season end even
worse for a team. The one thing about us was
we just kept going in there and keep working and
Wednesday was a Wednesday. At Thursday was a Thursday. And
you know, our Fridays were upbeat and going, and you
know we brought made sure to you know, have that
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great energy on Sundays around there and be able to,
you know, go play for sixty minutes. But you know,
it's about keeping everything the same. It's not about oh God,
we have to change this, change that. Just go to work,
show up and do your job.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Coach Wegana, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
We got about a minute left in this particular segment.
But you know, being a basketball fan like I know
you are, we both share that the same come in.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Love for the game.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
But I have to ask I have to ask you
about your Boston Celtics before the All Star break. They
were seven and one before the break. On March second,
they played the Denver Nuggets. Here can your Boston Celtics
run it back and repeat?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You know, I'm very confident I did get the tattoo.
I'll send you the ta.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
It was this.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
It was this summer, my first tattoo at age fifty seven.
It's you know, it's got the shamrock with the sea
and eighteen, you know banner eighteen on there. I left
room in there for nineteen.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It was a very very exciting run. You know, my
passion just like yours, Nick. We we love watching basketball,
being able to you know, be a part of just
another you know, another sport to something, and just being
able to see my kids, you know, who are both
diehard Celtic fans, because you know how it is you
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grow up in a family and you kind of just
ride or die with you know what everybody's what everybody's
cheering for, and it was something that was special.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, coach, we appreciate you taking the time.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Looking forward to Broncos are playing at Washington this year,
so we'll be making the trip on out there and
have some fun with that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I'd be remiss if I didn't tell you. Orlanda.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Franklin said to tell you what up. I saw him
a little bit earlier today, said to tell you hi. Uh,
and man, we appreciate you taking some time tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I appreciate it, Fellaws, thanks for having me. And uh,
it was good hearing that.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Music, you know, Advan's good hearing your voice. Look forward
to talking to you again soon. I'm catching up with
you again.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Good luck out there with the Commanders coach John paganne
a Broncos Country and I gotta hit a break.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
We'll be back after this.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Welcome back to it, Broncos Country tonight. Benjamin all Bright,
Nick Ferguson, Grant Smith here with you.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We can verify. Coach Bagano did get the tattoo. He
sent it to us. It is reru, Yeah it is.
It is definitely real.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Lying about the arm, he didn't need to send me
a picture of that, but no, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
It is on the art. It is on the art.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
He h Yeah, he did. Him and his Boston Celtics. Slow.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Let's get to hear his voice. Man, I miss coach.
I miss him being in here, you know once a week.
Get to chop it up with him and uh god man,
honestly the breaks were the best around here at that point, uh,
because we used to cut each other up. But glad
he's having all that success out there Washington right now.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
You know what I asked him, I said, what happened?
What would have happened had Washington made it to the
Super Bowl? And one the whole darn thing is what
do you say? He said he was going to get
a full back tattoo, a big w he can't, he discussed, said,
(17:23):
a full back tattoo.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's it, all right, Well we get a Broncos Commander's
Super Bowl next year. I'm expecting like a mount Rushmore
tattoo with the three of the four of us. Use
me on the on the as the faces and because
couch you me and Grant on like on his back
shoulder somewhere. I just want my mustache on one of
the peaks right now, right you.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Know, be a four.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It would be like, as I said, be like Coach
Phano's on one hand and then three of us off
on the other side.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Here's what you're committing both Grant and I too, because
you failed to kind of throw this in the mix
that you're saying. If it is a super Bowl between
the Commanders and the Broncos, that would be something that
Coach Bugano had to do. A Mount Rushmore owned his
body whatever of our faces, yes, which you did not
kind of elaborate on what would be the consequence for
(18:12):
we don't.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
We don't have one. We're just volunteering him. She was
having to make the super Bowl outside here.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I'm not seeing a problem other than having my face
tattooed on another mass body, which might be a little weird.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yes, that that would be weird.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
And I don't think Coach Bmgano would agree with greed
to that because something about there, somewhat another man's is
tattooed on your body, and it's not like someone like
profound in history, right, I beg to.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Differ that mustache is profound in history. Well repaired nicely
with Ben's tattoo of Comrade Brian Edwards on his back.
Oh really, yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Can you?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Can we ever reveal?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Legitimately I'm the only person to have ever served in
our military that does not have a tattoo. I firmly
believe that I'm literally the only person who never got one.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Well, I got one late in college because that was
really late to the party.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And my whole thing was I got to make sure
I think.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
This thing through, because you're gonna wear this tattoo like
luggage like you like you like old luggage, you can't
get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So they were luggage, Well, yeah you can, but this
type of luggage you can't. Well you know what I mean.
Take that back.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
You can, but it would be massively expensive to go
into some terribles. Yeah, it looked terrible, so I had
to put some thought into it. Now, my thought that
I put into my tattoo doesn't really fit well with
other people.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I really don't care.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
It's always I look at it every day and I go, well,
it fits the reason and the purpose.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I wanted to fit well.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Like for me.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
The thing that bothered me about it though, is just like, Okay,
you got a tattoo as Simon and Garfunkle, But why
would you just get Garfunkle.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Because he's of the group.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, loves guardfunk But once again, that's the whole thing,
Like it's the lead singer. Even though they were kind
of duo, you always knew that, Like there was a
difference between the two when they sang songs.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So yes, it was like it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
When you were telling me to get a John Oats tattoo,
I'm like, coach, getting just John Oates, You're not getting
Daryl Hall, Like what are we?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Well, and in such a waste like that, you gotta
let the band up. You get one on the left
ing each other right now too?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
What's this otherly ridiculous. Yeah, it's just killing me, just
killing it. That means that we never get a Hall
of Note tore. I know, I had just one one,
one thing I need.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Still, There's there's two concerts that I wanted to see
one more time before and one.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Of them I haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And I bought tickets when Tears for Fears was touring
last time, and then I forgot about it because I
bought him so far in advance, I completely forgot about it.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
You didn't go.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
You purchased tickets, good tickets too, only to forget that
you purchased tickets. And here it is, I thought was
I was the one that played the game for ten
years where I had to use my head a lot,
and here it is that you're forgetting you brought.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I'm just stupid. Let's not see somebody.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I'm just.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
There's nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
There's no no you know, it's deftly happening there, there's
no there's no apropheeing in my brain.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I'm just I'm just that dumb.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And I found out I missed it because I was
looking at Twitter and people were tweeting about being at
the Tears for Fears concert.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I heard it was one of their best shows I ever.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, huh, thanks for that. GREN appreciate it. It's a
phenomenal show. I missed every bit of it.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That was one of the ones Tears Fears and then
I've seen Holodoats before, but I wanted to do it.
I wanted to do it one last, you know, one
more time. So usually man really quickly.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I am not like your typical concert goer, right because
for me, when I go to a concert, I want
to be entertained. If I'm spending seventy ninety dollars for
a ticket or way more.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Okay, well, I want to be entertained. I don't just
stand there and just playing no, no, Yeah, there's some shows. Yeah,
you gotta you gotta have some stage.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yes, I have some stage.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
One of the worst, uh and I guess I'll out
I'm here one of the worst bands I ever saw
with no uh, and we'll get excited. I think your
idea on the Pro Bowl is interesting. I want to
get to that. You just did a video on it's
up on Twitter. One of the worst bands I ever
saw doing that was a band called Jet. I don't
know if you remember them or not. I think we
have some of their audios. Are you Gonna be My Girl?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Are you gonna be? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
They literally it was like karaoke with instruments. They just
they did not move. They just stood there the whole time,
just played it thing. There was nothing else going on.
They just stood there. They were They were the opening
act for Oasis at night and they just stood there
and just played their their It was so like Wild
went away Oasis gout on the stage and how energetic
they you know, they were versus these guys who are
(22:34):
energy rockers.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I mean the songs are energetic that they that they have,
but that sounds like animatronics at six Flags, I mean Conna,
it was like watching.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Karry Oaks on stage going back out on tour. Yeah,
well until Nolan Liam fight each other again. I thought
they were gonna fight each other on stage at night.
I was watching them. I was in Dallas. I thought
I thought they were gonna fight on stage at night.
But they were in Jetdak the entertained of the crowd.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
He's moving all over Noles moothly and was they were
all you know, it was a bunch of fun and
this opening band, which at the time Jet was in
their heyday because they had their single out. They were
you know, they're opening Afro. I'm like, man, this is
gonna be this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
And it was not.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It was pad. It was just no stage presence whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Here's the one man I wanted to see in concert
that I never got a chance to see. And I
think they came to Red Rocks last year, if I'm
not mistaken. The Rolls and Stones didn't they come to somewhere?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I saw the Stones in ninety I think it's ninety
nine or two thousand. That's the last time I saw him.
I can't even twenty years later. I can't even imagine.
But they're still out there doing it? Are they doing
any more tours?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Was that the last last one? I'm sure they'll do
another one sponsored by AARP? Okay, isn't that funny?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Though?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
You know bands say well this is the last go round,
the final farewell and Elton John did a like six times.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I think the share is still on the final Farewell
from nineteen nine.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Nice. That's hilarious. It's like at some point you're supposed
to quit, right, That's what last me. He when those
Sweet Sweet two dollars to roll it in. I am
mad at them. They might as well just said the
one more time to be again. First, you put a
video out on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You were talking about alternations to the Pro Bowl, and
you had a kind of interesting idea where you suggested
that the Pro Bowl guys take on legs.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, yeah, that's I'm calling them street legends.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Well, because you take a whole bunch of guys who
did not make it in the high school, didn't advance
their college or the pros, but they were very talented
because life kind of got in the way. But you
take those guys who hung you to prove themselves. You
put a purse out there for those guys, just like
you put for the NFL guys. Obviously, the money's not
(24:50):
going to be on the same level, but there's money
and a reputation and bragging rights on the table. You
put them in the flight football game and let's get it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I don't know how you pick the street legends per
se for that, but I'm interesting the idea. But I
started applying that to other All Star games, like like
like we have the NBA All Stars against the Harlem Globetrotters,
or the NBA All Stars.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Against the Hot Sauce and the and one guys. Well
see the and one guys.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Are you gotta go on YouTube and find street Balls
on YouTube?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, that's talking about go YouTube Hot Sauce and look
at that stuff back in the day.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
But as far as.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Today is concerned, you go into National Street Ballers and
you put that team together, street Balls and have them
play against NBA guys.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
See, yes, I want to see that. I'm okay with that.
I'm making football.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I'm like, how are we picking the the guys who
didn't make it? Kind of thing, like, how are we
picking that?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That's easy?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But basketball is super easy. I mean you got you
got to play all the YouTubers and all that.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
It's easy for the NFL to do because right now
in the NFL for the past couple of years have
been plugging flag football, especially women's flag football, right right,
And we know that flag football is going to be
an Olympics, right what.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Maybe twenty twenty eight or something like that.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So what you do? You have a flag football league
throughout the year and all of them like you do
like a flag like youthful flag football. Then you take
that tournament playing whatever you want to play it, why
wall the sport's down in Orlando, and then from that
collection you pick an All Star of that and that group.
The finality is that you're playing against NFL players, because reality.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Is the All Star Games in and of themselves have
all kind of lost their luster. Unless it's baseball. That's different.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, that's a little bit different. And and honestly because
baseball is such a safer sport. You know what about
the four Nations face off that hockey this year?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
What is uh?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
What do you like?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
You said, hockey? Yes, yes you have. What is what
is this sport?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Because I was under the impression it was basically men's
figure skating.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It was a stick and it's a puck.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
You put it in net and you get a chance
to check people gets the boards.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
One that Brian boy Tannel plays three fights in the
first nine seconds of the USA Canada game last week.
There's a hard fields, right, Aaron, I'm gonna be honest
with you. In Canada, I sort of get it, but
you took it all on the way out and it
was in Montreal. Yeah, that part was embarrassing, Yes, but
I mean I get why they're mad Championship game tomorrow
night in Boston.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
See, see, this is what I like.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
So you put it in one host country and then
you just move it around because I thought it was great.
Canada on their home ice, right playing in Montreal against
the Team USA, they lose after blowing the national anthem,
and then all of a sudden, now you bring it
back to the United States and play the finalitey of that,
(27:33):
that whole four Nations in Boston.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
To me, I love it.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I'm sort of formaty.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
We guess we gotta find something to spice these things
up a little bit. The Baseball Star Game is what
it is, and it's it's kind of timeless and it
still works. But the other All Star Games, I mean,
you know, Mac mcclun comes out once a year to
remind us he's the best guy on earth the Kondunka
basketball and then disappears into irrelevance, you know, immediately after,
you know, does anybody even participate in the other stuff anymore?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I mean that you get to yeah, the game.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Self, listen, the Skills game, the skills events, those are
the really exciting ones for me. They've become more exciting
than the game itself. Well, right, but to spice it up,
you use international players like the guy want wins the
dunk Contest. Just think about the people some of the
people who've won the Dunk Contest in the past couple
of years, right, some of those guys have just been hey,
(28:22):
here's a guy, he could just jump. Well when you
think about Aaron Goyd and Zach Mavine, Now that was
one for the ages for me, right, And.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
There's the dudes that opt out of the opt out
of this stuff becausey don't want to get embarrassed by
somebody else.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Who lose the dunk competition as ego man.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Meanwhile, like I said, you got Mac McClung, who's career
in the NBA career earnings is one hundred and thirty
two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
They made three hundred thousand for winning the dunk.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Right, It comes out to the Dunk Contest because that's
where he makes his bread for the next few years.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
John Moran has said that he's gonna do it next year. Yeah,
we'll see. He said Lebron was gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Tanto charyon Mello, Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do it. And
what did he do fake the fraud, hold out, just
like he did the All Star Game.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, exactly. See, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It's you know it to me, like it's gotta be
the I mean, if you're gotta do this stuff, you
gotta have participation. Because if it's the.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
All Stars and then the stars are participating, what are
we doing?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Once again, this is where I feel that they should
bring back like those street ballers, right, those street balls.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So popular back in the day. That and one versus
that would have sold out the professor. I know that's saying, right, professor,
all the dudes.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
The Professor was like like to see, who can I
can compare him to hmm, oh man, I'm trying to
I'm trying to think Jason Williams.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Okay, don't dope, And.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
It was it was highly unexpected to see him do
the things that he was actually doing.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah you got.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I mean, Ray for Allston is probably the best and
one player that ever played in the league. But some
of these other dudes, I mean, yeah, you have the Professor,
you had Philip HOOTSOFCE champion. There was so many, man,
they were they were so good. Gracia Bouchet remember that.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
It was just so many different guys and and the
professor was like, like you were joking earlier about ronniey
Moss snatch and chains. That's kind of like what professor
would do. Two guys on the basketball court.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, you had oh god, who was it? You had
trouble machine and headache and like all them dudes. Like
it was just like it was like an American Gladiators.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
It was.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
You can't forget about escalade. Yeah, big guy baby Shack,
oh man. There was so many. Who was the pharmacist?
It dribbled all over the place.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It was.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, there was so many, so many.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
But that is the way that you breathe life back
into the NBA.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
All Star Game.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, I think getting guys like that, whether they are
homegrown or into guys, because let's just be totally honest. Well,
you look at certain aspects of the game, and especially
the ISO ball that a lot of our players here
in the States do opposed to those over overseas.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's isoball.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I mean, Grant mentioned John Moran, there's a lot of
io ball, and then James Harden He's the king of
ISO ball right right, and we.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Haven't I mean, like the game though. Even the NBA
game is an ISO ball anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's it's it's a Euro style We're chucking from three
patient space, you know, offense.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I mean, that's the whole league anymore. But IO ball
was during our year. I mean, that's what it was.
It went from being you know, you kind of went
from like the Jordan era into the ice, the Ai
Iso era.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Tracy McGrady, yeah, Tam mac, all those guys. Yeah, Vince Carter,
you kind of went. You kind of went into the
Iso era basketball, and then d'An toni, you know, started
the pace and then they started spreading it out and
shooting after that.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
But this is why view the NBA when you look
at all the professional leagues, and you would think that
hockey has the international market lockdown because a lot of
the players that come from Sweden, rush or whatever. But
the NBA is the most popular professional sport in this
league that has international appeal. So for All Star Week,
you invite some of those international players, you're only up
(32:11):
the ante and now you're already global bringing those international
players to compete against NBA players. NBA players don't want
to lose the international players. Think about what happened in
the Olympics when they're playing Wimbiyama and Team France.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
They want to lose.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, I get it, I'm here for it. I think
it's an interesting content. We should explore a little more.
We got a break, Broncos country that i'd be back
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