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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That was so fascinating.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm discussing orbital mechanics during the break and breaking do
it a physics lesson using quarters and doing orbital mechanics.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I mean, he's got quarters, red dots, he's got paper,
and he is going through this eloquent explanation right of
rotating a KOI and what do you call the.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Orbital what most orbital mechanics or.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Mechanics see sound was really fancy, right, like like that
you should go to MIT for it. But then after
he shows me David Temper and Tony Maniz, he goes
back to his seat and the first thing he asks,
where's my soda pop? And I'm staring right at him,
like at some point Ben's going to realize where he
placed it? Right, Nope, orbital mechanics, but he forgot where
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he put.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
His soda pop.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I have no problem sitting here during your discussion on
G two mathematics during the break and I can't remember
report you can't.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Did you drive it around at the bar and forget
where you parked your car? Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
No, Actually I'm good with that. I'm actually I'm actually
good with orienteering. And that became because when I was
in the army. Uh, and we we were deployed, they
would get gave us a map.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
This is back before you know they we still had
maps back then. Uh, they gave us a map and
it was just a white map. There was because it's
the desert. There's no there's no markers.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Right, there's a bunch of I'm like, what use is this?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So I got used to orienting, you know, I got
used to orientation. Okay, I put something here. I know
where the sun is there relative to that position when
it like the human sun down and.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You just kind of remember where whereabouts she left stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Nowadays, parking lots to get those signs with the letters
and numbers up there, and you can, oh you do,
just remember that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So for your soda pop? Do we need the sun
and the sundown?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Might we might wear the movie I.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Look for the north Star and I'm gonna have to
navigate my way back to this.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I get one a week. I'm gonna diet. I get
one soda.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Pop a week, because you get one a week, you
wouldn't know exactly what you played.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So I was freaking out, and this is setting a grill.
So it's like zero sugar. There's no you know, no sugar,
just thing breaking out. That's my Trea. I get one of.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
These a week one.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I know I'm no carb diet. I'll tell you I
did this before too. I lost a ton of wait,
you know, all that kind of stuff to the no
carb things. So what I'm doing it again?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And I tell you what, man, Me and carbs that
year mutually parted ways with the makeup.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Sex was phenomenal. I had a breadstick and.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I had a tear rolling down my eye because I
slowly chewed that bread stick into oblivion.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
What do you a point in living if you're not
going to eat any carbs? Tell me that in about
fifteen years. Yeah, young man, the idea is that you
want to keep on living. I used to say. I
used to say the same thing, and then I, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And then I got olden fat, and nobody likes skinny fat.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I think Ben is doing here. Here's the overall trick
that Ben is trying to do. He's trying to do
jet on my trick on himself. So he's trying to
go on this look, you know, low craving sugar drink diet.
So when he and Ryan go to Andy for the
combine that's where he's gonna spurge on the beer.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, we're gonna splae. Yeah, so that's what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm just saying, yes, apparently there's no carbs in vodka.
That's what I heard there. You go, we know what
you're going to be draft and I researched anything, But
I'm just saying, where's I had no idea? Oh yeah,
I'm uh when it comes to that kind of stuff,
I'm such a has been and I'm trying to uh uh,
you know, trying to get better on on.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So, yeah, vodka is naturally carved free, no sugar, fat
or nutritional value.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Of course you will look that up to justify the
idea of just consuming it.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I gotta do something while I'm out there. Yeah, I
mean you know what they do have salad recoutons. What
am I going to eat a salad at two am
at Prime forty seven? I mean, you get your well
done snake.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Right, Hey, it's a snake and steak at Tuesday nights
at steakhouse.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yes, yes, yes, you need that salad to absorb all
the other carbs that you may be something like a
well marbled ribby that'll do that for me.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But you get the idea.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It has been I don't want to call him a
has been, but there's been a swell on social media
for possibly bringing back von Miller if he gets let
go by the Bills.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
This is like fans, Yeah, this is like a fan thing.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I guess apparently this is a thing. And I understand
fans sentiment, I do. I get it your sentimental at
the guy vond has done nothing but talk up Denver
since he left. He still uses WI when referring to
the Broncos. So I get the fans sentiment portion of it,
but I don't get it from where this team is
and where it's going. If you look at production, von
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Miller had basically the same production is done Dura Tilman
last year and had forty more snaps over the course
of the season than Tilman had. Like for the amount
of money that it's gonna un lest von Miller were
to show up and play on a veteran minimum deal,
which I'm told is not something against in the cards,
Why would.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
We do that? Why would that even make sense? Why
would you.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Import that into this locker which has its own leadership,
its own you know, its own set of stuff and
bring in a guy who love von Miller, loved what
he did for the Broncos. You know he's gonna be
a Hall of Famer, but I'm not sure, Like, what
are you bringing him in for at this point?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, obviously, you know, fandom is a real thing, and
when you have a fan favorite like von Miller, I
can see why fans would want to see that return.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Von Miller.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Like we were talking about musicians on that last last tour.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's what they want to see from Vaughn.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
But these will be the same fans if Vaughn hypothetically
were to come here and he looked like his Shechelle
of himself, some of which would be the first ones
to jump on social media to criticize him. And for me,
I don't know how you guys feel about it. I
like to have the last visual from an athlete or
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even an actor on their way out what it was
in their prime. Right.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
The worst thing is seeing a boxer. It's trying to
hold on the.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Don't I don't want to see that because now it's like,
oh my god, it ruins.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That image that you had not there anymore. Yeah, and
Vaughn was one heck of a player.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
We had Coach pegana on and Coach Gaghanna was talking
about it.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I want to remember von in that way. I want
to remember.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Vn and a guy who was very emotional about leaving
this team.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Then he went on to go.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
To the Los Angeles Rams to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I want to remember Vaughn in that particular way.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And let's be totally honest to me, that would not
be helping the Broncos. It would not because now, what
are you asking for as far as compensation? If you're Vn,
how does that impact the other guys in the locker room?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I like it for if the cost was right to
be somewhat of a mentor to John the Cooper and
Nick Benito, it makes sense as far as that is concerned.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But thinking that Vonn is going.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
To be a competitive, productive member of the Broncos defense
to help move them along, I don't think that's gonna
be the case.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, in terms of sacks, quarterback hits, all that kind
of stuff, I'm serious. Like his numbers are basically in
line with Andrea Tillman. He had forty more snaps on
the season than Tillman, but his number is raw numbers are.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Basically on par with Andrea Tillman.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Are you going to pay what von Miller commands at
this point for edge rusher four level performance?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And then once again you start talking about Von not
being every down guy, hem third now pass rush only guy.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And I'm not sure that if the team wanted to
go in that direction, or any team for that matter,
he would be willing to do that just to.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Continue his career.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
We've seen guys kind of hold on being somewhat of
a third down specialist. But then it gets to a
point where you said, okay, well, from a roster standpoint,
you're trying to build a roster. Are you willing to
sacrifice a roster spot for a younger player who is
a little more cost.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Effective, who could really help your team improve?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
To me, this is a reason logically using football logic,
not my emotions.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Right, this doesn't make sense. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't
make much sense to me. I've seen it out there,
suggested a few different places, and I get it again.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I get the fan sentiment portion of it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And you know, if the Broncos maybe got off on
a on a huge run, hot start, you're way out first,
which you know would would seem to not be something
that that I necessarily think is gonna happen, but you
know could and if the Bronco and you get to
the trade deadline and you know Vonn's the team's willing
to eat a little bit of that that deal for
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an end of season rental, then maybe, you know, win
one for the guy who was here the last time
we went there sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Okay, once again, this is where this is the most
difficult part in sports, being able to separate the business
of football from your football relationships.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
That's the hardest thing to do when you're talking about personnel.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Let's just think about when George Payton even traded Vaughn
to the Rams.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That was very emotional for everyone.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Right, here's a guy who was drafted by John Elway
arguably one of the best or the best. Let member
phrase that the best pick that John Elway has ever selected.
Now that guy's in a different uniform, right, I understand
the fandom associated with Vaughn. Listen, I was seere when
they're doing a coaching internship with the Broncos when they
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went on you know that run in twenty fifteen. So
I understand what Vaughn means to this community. And when
you talk to him during the regular season or people
interviewed him and if he was asking about what is
going to be like facing the Broncos, he always kept
the communication clean so not to dirty it up where
he would not be allowed to come back here and
retire here and going to Ring of Fame, which that
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is going to happen, right, But I think it's best
for the team to look more for younger players that
are serviceable and can help.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You think about you know, Joona Ellis. Yeah, that's what
that's I'm getting it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Are you gonna stunt the development of Ellis because Coop
and and Benito are gonna start and you got to
pay Benito and Benito's pay is coming up. You got
they're gonna start. You've got Ellis, who you just drafted
in the second round look very productive when he got.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
On the field.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Even got Daria Tillman look productive when he got on
the field. It means you're punting on him another young
guy who's who's got some emerging talent to get basically the.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Stats that I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's not like Voon's gonna suddenly turn it up and
be that dude again.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
He is what he is at this point, and that
doesn't mean.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That he can't get sacks, but he just doesn't quite
get them nearly at the rate that he used to.
I don't know, man, I I like, I hear you,
I hear the fans out there saying this, but I
just don't think it's one of those things that that
makes a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
This is why fans don't make great right.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You go with your heart instead of you know, insteady
a head. The one thing I did notice on what
you were just saying. I picked up on it, and
I want to I want to go back to it here.
You did a coaching intern with the Broncos during Super
Bowl fifteen, the Super Bowl fifty year, and you did
a scouting internship with the Broncos this past year with
him ad the playoffs. So I'm just saying that the
missing link in that time has been Nick Ferguson an internship.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Here with I'm glad that you, you know, I know
you obs science, Yes, of course, avolchanics.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Uh, you were able to put that, I was the logarithms,
the algorithms.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I was able to do the math here.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I'm just saying we had a remot summing there somewhere
ever square no, I I we we got Yeah. So
the missing piece here and obviously we're figuring this out.
The missing piece has been the Nick Ferguson bump.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yes, just just imagine what could have happened Buffalo on
the trip.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
What you're saying is you're going to be on the
staff next year. I say that we got to get
the card, get some fan push behind you. We gotta
get some together the fans back into this.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
See now once again, like bar Miller, the fandom is
now a real thing.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So we gotta put some beer pressure out. Go to
the combine.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I'll talk to George while we're up there, like, look,
you gotta get back into the building. It is obvious, and.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
That's gonna be somewhat ferg manifesto.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Like see see what happened. I'm dud.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I'm putting a presentation back together right now.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'm hijacking. I'm right here, I use two quarters. I
got right here, the science of Nick Ferguson. Right, I'm
a hijack one of the TV's in the bar Velocity.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I'm a popping up there and then I'm gonna go
through the slides right there.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
All the time they tried, Mack, you turn that shot,
try to get you that want to my presentation that
brought the country staff right now, that's hilarious, and make
it happen. That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
We could we could throw a celebration party afterwards and
the nude party can player whatever that's called. They're too
big for you guys. That makes sense, That makes sense.
I'll tell you what, though, we can't afford them.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I'm still waiting on my Super Bowl fifty NT ring. Yes,
is because I like to think that you know, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Get a ring for that. The people who are working
for the website got a ring for that. I didn't
get I didn't get one. So what happens when you're
a lowly interned Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I guess so, Yes, yes, you call Patrick's Mike, maybe
you know, maybe they can.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Get me one.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You think they got just an extra one hanging around
the building, hanging around like you never came a pictures.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I've been saying all these years, he may have some
replicas and something like that that.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
They made presentation case right here. They got a replica
from like Jostins or something. Yes, exactly a classroom. I
was selling tickets for the Broncos that year after the
Super Bowl, and I got a replica ring. Yeah it
was plastic, but you still got one though, I still
got one, Yes more than you.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yes, that's what I got. Nothing, I got nothing, I
got me.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I got a blank piece of paper that somebody had
traced an outline of a middle finger on.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Uh you know one time? Did they put that on
your car?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
From Sean Payton himself said screw your juicy fruit? He did,
thank you for the juicy fruit. I'll tell you what gesture.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That's a whole lot better than one of my roommates
had done his car. Apparently he was seeing a young lady,
you know, or young ladies.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
He was a man of the people, and his car
got kid.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
She the words in there. Oh she wrote merds paragraphs.
Maybe not, but she wrote one word on the hood
of his car. Yes, I'm not going to say what
it was, but yes it was.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
They thought a little that though.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Like of all the revenge things like if you're got
to do that, doesn't the evidence all lead back to
the perpetrator At that point.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Oh, at that point she wasn't trying to avoid it, Okay,
she wanted.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Him to know it was me.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, the insurance adjuster and the police are going to
know who it was.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And he can't call the cops, so he can't.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
No, no, yes, you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Why not.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's kind of dating violating rules, right, That's how you
win the breakup right there?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
The cops. No, you do call the cops. They'll get
the final word. Now you put it this. Wait wait, wait,
come on, guys. No, you're not gonna do that. She
keep a car. She keeps her car. That's the least
all the cops. They're going to wrest her.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Cheating and breaking the ball, destruction of personal property is.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I can't believe you too.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I'm a grant on this one. Brother, This country to night,
NFL six packs we come back. What's all due respect
to me?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
J von don get that reference. You know what we're
talking about?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
By six six zero a text line with that, it's
time for the FL six.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Packs, Time for the NFL six I'm gonna break a
lot of beer, guys, and inside information you can't find
anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Six the top six NFL headline.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
What that's NFL putter Chris Kluey was arrested over a
protest in hunting New Beach City council meeting. Whiter Chris
Kluy was arrested on Tuesday. Clewely was protesting Huntington Beach
decision to display a plaque in its public library that
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spelled out the acronym for MAGA in a in a
library for a magical allure and galvanizing adventuress and an
adventure and trying to spell that out all seven members
of the Huntington Beach City Council Republicans. Video from the
city council meeting shows clearly criticizing the MAGA movement during
the public discussion portion calling it a Nazi movement, and
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then saying he would engage in civil disobedience after clewe
went to the front of the meeting where the city
council sits police handcuffed him and carried him out. He
was arrested on a charge of disrupting an assembly and
told the Orange Catty redgis sure that he was released
after about four hours in custody.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
What if you o?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Klue He was in the NFL five to twenty thirteen,
playing mostly with the Vikings, but have a short stint
with the Seahawks and Raiders as well. He said at
the end of his career, the political beliefs, including his
support of same sex marriage and criticism of homophobiaan football
had made it unlikely that any team would find him
when they would hire him.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Excuse me, clue.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
He has been an outspoken political person on Twitter in
his post playing days, and while political party stuff should
probably not be up at a public library. What do
we think of a punter making news for being arrested?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, it's not the norm. It's breaking. I want to
say new ground with the information out there by Justin
Tucker that kind.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Of follows in line.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But once again, everyone is entitled to have their own
political relationships or affiliations, but ideas that don't force it
on someone else.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And this was it the proper place for a time
to actually do it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, and they shouldn't have put something in the library clue,
you shouldn't have been up there anyway. Civil disobedience is
still disobedience, however you look at it. And he knew
what was coming when he got arrested himself. Two good
news for salary cap strapped teams. The NFL, as it
outs today that the salary cap will be somewhere between
two hundred and seventy seven point five and two hundred
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and eighty one point five million dollars. Teams had estimated
previously at two seventy five, so at least two and
a half million more than they thought it up to
perhaps six and a half year more than they thought.
The cap was was set at two fifty five point
four this past season to twenty four point eight the
season before that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It's been climbing rapidly.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
In recent years due to lucrative broadcasting rights deal. In
the memo, the league said that the cap was reduced
by ten million due to a nine million dollars smoothing adjustment.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
This goes back to.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
COVID in a one million dollar increase to performance based play.
The NFL Players Association has the right to add up
to fifty percent of a nine million deferral back to
the twenty twenty five cap, and the rest will be
folded into the twenty twenty six number, but it has
not shared their plan with the league yet and that
has to happen for a final number to be set.
So if the league decides to do that and then
give the four and a half this year, that would
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be the two eighty one. If not, the league could
put it all, the pleasure Association can have it all
the next year and go for them. Their league says
they expect to hear that plan the ultimate cap sometime
next week. What do we think about the increased NFL
salary cap?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Mo money, more money, mo money. That's the first thing.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Get the tech drills going, Hey, this is good news
for my Bengals baby exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Talk about rubber band man.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I mean, now you can pull out some stacks, some bands.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I mean, it's about a six to seven million dollars
bump for everybody based on what they thought it was
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But here's a good christ thing about it.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I know some Broncos fans went crazy because it's like, oh,
the Bronco's gonna have more money. Guess what that means
other teams Guess what.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Means the cost of players will go up a little
bit ahead it hads gone up.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
And I love this for players because there's a lot
of things that the players actually go through. And I
know some fans feel as though they don't make the
same amount of money that the players making players of selfish,
but they have no idea what players have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I do, so I'm happy for this team, Higgins Zamar says.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Guys out there get paid, put the money.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
In the bag. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Again, on the front end, every team or every fan thinks,
all my team's going to have more to spend. But
the reality is when every team's got more to spend,
it just drives up this just inflation just drives.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Up the players.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So the only people that really win here are the
players in the agents collecting their three percent or lower fee.
Beyond that, the team, you don't really get extra relief
as a I mean you might get a little of
it extras as a team, but it really isn't as
much as you think it is because everybody else is
spent up on free agents.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Man, when you look at the two teams or the
three teams that are up there, you got New England
at one hundred and twenty five, one hundred and twenty
five million in cap space, the Vegas Raiders ninety five.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, both those teams figure to be big spenders.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Washington Football Commanders seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
They're going to be buying on defense, that's a lot
of pethos. It is again a legal tender free.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
The NFL fears criticism is going to reduce its supply
of future officials. NFL find a couple of Texans players
for things said after the team's playoff loss.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
To the Chiefs. Saw this past Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Finds imposed on running back Joe Mixon and defense that
Will Anderson were overturned on appeal.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Why did the league office swing and miss.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
In an effort to silence players whose First Amendment rights
are limited in part by the collective Bargaining Agreement. During
at least one of those two hearings, justification was offered
to the NFL, We're told is concerned criticism of current
officials will cause potential future NFL officials to never choose
to become officials. Similar to the aftermath of the league's
concussion epiphany in two thousand and nine, parents started this
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year the kids away from football lower levels. They reduced
into sole volume of football players, the potential supply the
future players tricks and well, it's easy to say there's
plenty more where that came from. The Kids who don't
play football could include players who go want to become stars.
What For example, Patty Mahomes had opted for baseball, So
with officials, that's the same idea. Folks could choose otherwise
to become high school officials, decide life too short not
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to be harassed, ring games, dragged cook docs online, et cetera.
When the NFL officials become a giant pincushions for nationwide
external criticism, all the league can do is try to
reduce that criticism. The league hopes to make the job
more attracted by minimizing the unattractive aspects of it. So
they'll try to silence coaches, owners, execs, and players by
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finding them.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
What do we think about the NFL's fear. But they're
not going to be able to recruit officials.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
There's a bunch of couch chips to me, because it's
not going to change anything. I mean, even a little league.
Have you ever seen a little league game? Well, just
a redulttle league game. Take that little.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
League game and now put it in the hood. Those
referees cats, no, I got.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
The I did get when I was Yeah, those were
the worst, Yes, because.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I have you know all the way af through high school. Dude,
the little league games were the worst. Were the parents
of your business. Why do I care?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Why at the parking lot after two yes, speaking of
which one of my buddies were to college. With refereeing
a youth football game, what's the worst that can happen?
Some parent just comes down and just punches them in
a phase the clock gets them behind because they didn't
agree with the call. So these things are going to
happen because fans are very emotional. Uh, they can't contain themselves.
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And also they have an outlet which is social media,
which only up to the anti as far as criticisms.
If the league wants to stop this, all they have
to do is in the fourth quarter of the Chiefs game,
make sure that it's balanced.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I Look, I do believe that in this era of
everybody finding out everybody's business online, and I believe that
fans go overboard with this sometimes I do believe it
needs to be accountability in this because I'm a better
and I certainly don't want referees tilting games, you know,
and you know, making things outside the realm.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Of what happens on the field and quotes here, So
I see both sides of this.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
But I've I've been on the I've been on the
get the business for refereeing side.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I'll tell you man it that's something I uh. I
walked out.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I was the whole plate umpire walked out of a
youth baseball game one time. I had this drunk part
behind me just screaming, and about the fourth inning, I
had enough of it. And after telling him to sit
down and shut up and you know and whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Else I told him, he kept going. I asked the
other parents to sitting down. They wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So I just walk off left the game in the
middle of the fourth inning.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I'm just gonna walk out of here. And I was like,
I'm giving this is it like you're gonna go where
I'm gonna go. And he didn't go. So I went
twenty bucks, saying enough for that. Well, I'm just I'm saying,
it's not like I didn't have a crew. I'm a
one guy. I'm referend this thing. You know. It was
twenty five, yes, you know. I was just like, I'm
the one guy umping this thing.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
There's no other There's no other umpire in this game,
you know, which is another mistake. You should never have
just one official at any rocks that's your car.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Uh No, I p a smart guy. I wan to
see where I park. I changed.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I always changed, you know, and then I parked aways
a little bit out of the way where they wouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
See, there's that over to mechanics sciminator registery.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Got it up here.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I miss some common sense, you know, might be some
common sense stuff sometimes, but I know how to keep
the car safe.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Four.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's the fun news here, Nick, you friend, Clinton Portis
joining DeShawn Jackson. Staff at Delaware State School announced Clinton
Ports to be the running bass coach the run game
coordinator for the twenty twenty five season. Shawn Jackson was
hired as their head coach back in December. Portis was
in a Rocos second round pick in two thousand and
two offensive Rookie of the Year, traded to Washington for
a corner Champ Bailey after two seasons and played for
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the teams through the twenty ten season. Portis ran twenty
two two thousand, two d and thirty time excuse me
for nine twenty fe yards and seventy five touchdowns over
the course of his career. Caught two hundred forty seven
passes for two thousand, eighteen yards and five touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
The Delaware State job is his first coaching position.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Can you tell us about run game coordinator running backs
coach Clinton Port as a coach?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You know this is great for CP.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I know that he is passionate about the game and
because he's got a son who plays high school football
and like every proud parent, he's at every single game
sharing his butt off. But it's great to see former
players get back to the game and also give back
to the game.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And it's all about opportunity.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
If you give a player an opportunity, they're going to
make the most of it. And I'm rooting for CP
man so they can have a fun year.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
But he was like hey man in.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
A text threat, hey makes you send the kids his
waist because they're trying to turn that school into a
football factory.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
So yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I mean, Delaware State is not on anybody's being a
football powerhouse.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I go ahead and hire DeShawn Jackson.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And this isn't the only school that we've seen do this,
or to hiring a former NFL player to sort of
put themselves on the map. Well, I don't know what
we know of DeShawn Jackson and Clinton. Portis's coaches are
Michael Vick for that matter, Norfolk eight. But you know,
at at the end of the day, it's certainly getting
those programs attention. And it feels to me like this
is something that sort of originated with the CU thing
with Coach Prime.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I mean, you know, we saw Coach Prime dominated at the.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
HPCU level, but you know, he stepped through the P five.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It's been a bit of a struggle as he tries.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
To build a dormant program, but it's brought that program
an enormous amount of attention, which has helped with recruiting
and rebuilding in that process. So it'd be interesting to
kind of keep an eye on some of these schools
and see as more and more people try this, how
it works and how these guys.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Are as coaches.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, it'd be great for guys just kind of get
their feet wet, and for me just kind of seeing
what kind of coach that CP is gonna be because
he spent a lot of those years here in Denver
Alex Gibbs, So that's gonna be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Five Bear season ticket holders who want to see Ben
Johnson's first season as the team's head coach in person,
gonna have to pay a little bit more for the
chance for multiple reports. The team sent a letter to
season tick holders this week and forming them they are
raising the prices by an average of ten percent for
the twenty twenty five season. In the letter, Bears president
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Kevin Warren wrote to via Chris Emma of six seventy
to score that the team made the increase after incorporating
market dynamics, industry.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Trends, and a strong home schedule.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It's a home schedule figures features games against the Lions, Packers,
and Vikings obviously, and the Cowboys, Giants, Brown, Steelers, and Saints.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Leading credulity to be strained a little.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
With the strong home schedule, the Bears raised season ticket
prices by average of eight percent before going five to
twelve during the twenty twenty four season. That is a
eight percent and then a ten percent increase for Bears
tickets over the last two seasons. Broncos raised ticket price
as well. A question I'm going to be asking the
team up there and at the combine when we get
a chance on that to get some clarification on that
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as well. What do you think of the NFL raising
ticket prices to the port where.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
God, it's not really affordable for the compman much anymore.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Well, I mean this is where these hit been headed
from the very beginning. I recall the time period when
I was playing for the Broncos to get I get good,
good seats, also great seats. I mean, you're talking about
what maybe ninety dollars, eighty to ninety dollars. That that
number has continued to escalate, and I know some fans
are getting upset because they feel as though they're being
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priced out, and some fans will opt to just kind
of stay home. And I know the Broncos in a
situation where their current stadium lease is starting to expire,
they got to determine whether they're going to try to
build a new stadium or they're going to stay where
they are. And I know what those ticket prices going
up is going to.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Really change the way.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
That consumers, fans actually purchase tickets.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, it's it's I mean, it's the thing.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I had someone complain to me that they're getting priced
out of being able to afford Broncos tickets, and you know,
kind of lamenting that it's becoming like the Super Bowl,
a corporate event where you know, big business can afford
to buy these seats, but the common man can.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
But I tell you this, if you currently have Broncos
season tickets, don't need food. Don't let it press you out.
Don't sell them because most fans they will not sell them.
If them in resell them, that means that they got
to go to a blood bank and give blood. They're
keeping those those tickets because you know how difficult people have.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Been waving like twenty thirty years.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
So you can raise the license for the broadcast, you've
gotta find buyers that's not gonna get.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
This next of thing. If you're trying to do that, Yeah,
just just buy them and resell them.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Sick. How strong is the World Olympics strong enough to
make millions pay attention to sport that for the ensuing
three years and fifty weeks they.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Don't care about spreader. Noah Lyles hopes to change all that.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
The twenty twenty four gold medalist plans to start the
process by racing Dolphins receiver Tyreek Hill. Something that's constantly
on my mind is how to keep track relevant, Lyles
told NBC News. Track and Field has a great reputation
inside the Olympics, but in the marketing sense when it
comes to the US, just fallen short a few too
many times. Lyles also has a selfish motivation and light
of the lack of enduring and widespread fame that comes
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from winning Golden and becoming regard as the fastest man
on the planet. I want to be more than just
a runner, because there's enough runners. Who's the performers, Lyles said,
in his mind, we'd get to race and beat someone
far more famous, who plays the most popular sport in America.
Iles said, I'm not here to play around. I'm then
serious about this. I'm gonna bring everything I got for this.
And I guess he's willing to take the heat for
the perception that he's lowering himself to raise someone who's
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in a world class printer.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Although Tyreek Hill does have world class speed.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I get a lot of hate from people who don't
believe that I should be racing him.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
They're like, this is beneath you.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Apparently it's not, because here we are some saying we ah,
they would be beneath Hill. Although the details about the
Tyreek versus Noah have not been announced. Lyle's effort to
hype the TVD foot race includes boasting that he plans
to set.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
A new world record.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
You know, whether that's enough to get people fully invested
in their rain raids to be seen. Maybe maybe they
should stage an argument on urban.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Street that'll help out. But John Rockers have Mahomes reference. Yes,
I think fans would tune in to see.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
This because world class beed versus what we think was
world class beat.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I would watch that flight. I'll define not to fight.
I think in the band fight those two guys fighting.
But no, I'm gonna watch said race.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
You gotta have something else do, because you can't just
do a ten second race to be done with like
one hundred meter dash.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
But what there's a lead up, the highlights and all
of these interviews kind of lead up to them.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I was like a box of mine. You need some
undercard racist you versus me, we'll make it happen. How
about you versus Ryan Edwards? Fantastic procus cut your knight back,
cut your race
That was so fascinating.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm discussing orbital mechanics during the break and breaking do
it a physics lesson using quarters and doing orbital mechanics.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I mean, he's got quarters, red dots, he's got paper,
and he is going through this eloquent explanation right of
rotating a KOI and what do you call the.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Orbital what most orbital mechanics or.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Mechanics see sound was really fancy, right, like like that
you should go to MIT for it. But then after
he shows me David Temper and Tony Maniz, he goes
back to his seat and the first thing he asks,
where's my soda pop? And I'm staring right at him,
like at some point Ben's going to realize where he
placed it? Right, Nope, orbital mechanics, but he forgot where
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he put.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
His soda pop.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I have no problem sitting here during your discussion on
G two mathematics during the break and I can't remember
report you can't.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Did you drive it around at the bar and forget
where you parked your car? Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
No, Actually I'm good with that. I'm actually I'm actually
good with orienteering. And that became because when I was
in the army. Uh, and we we were deployed, they
would get gave us a map.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
This is back before you know they we still had
maps back then. Uh, they gave us a map and
it was just a white map. There was because it's
the desert. There's no there's no markers.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Right, there's a bunch of I'm like, what use is this?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
So I got used to orienting, you know, I got
used to orientation. Okay, I put something here. I know
where the sun is there relative to that position when
it like the human sun down and.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You just kind of remember where whereabouts she left stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Nowadays, parking lots to get those signs with the letters
and numbers up there, and you can, oh you do,
just remember that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So for your soda pop? Do we need the sun
and the sundown?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Might we might wear the movie I.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Look for the north Star and I'm gonna have to
navigate my way back to this.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I get one a week. I'm gonna diet. I get
one soda.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Pop a week, because you get one a week, you
wouldn't know exactly what you played.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So I was freaking out, and this is setting a grill.
So it's like zero sugar. There's no you know, no sugar,
just thing breaking out. That's my Trea. I get one of.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
These a week one.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I know I'm no carb diet. I'll tell you I
did this before too. I lost a ton of wait,
you know, all that kind of stuff to the no
carb things. So what I'm doing it again?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And I tell you what, man, Me and carbs that
year mutually parted ways with the makeup.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Sex was phenomenal. I had a breadstick and.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I had a tear rolling down my eye because I
slowly chewed that bread stick into oblivion.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
What do you a point in living if you're not
going to eat any carbs? Tell me that in about
fifteen years. Yeah, young man, the idea is that you
want to keep on living. I used to say. I
used to say the same thing, and then I, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And then I got olden fat, and nobody likes skinny fat.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I think Ben is doing here. Here's the overall trick
that Ben is trying to do. He's trying to do
jet on my trick on himself. So he's trying to
go on this look, you know, low craving sugar drink diet.
So when he and Ryan go to Andy for the
combine that's where he's gonna spurge on the beer.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, we're gonna splae. Yeah, so that's what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm just saying, yes, apparently there's no carbs in vodka.
That's what I heard there. You go, we know what
you're going to be draft and I researched anything, But
I'm just saying, where's I had no idea? Oh yeah,
I'm uh when it comes to that kind of stuff,
I'm such a has been and I'm trying to uh uh,
you know, trying to get better on on.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So, yeah, vodka is naturally carved free, no sugar, fat
or nutritional value.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Of course you will look that up to justify the
idea of just consuming it.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I gotta do something while I'm out there. Yeah, I
mean you know what they do have salad recoutons. What
am I going to eat a salad at two am
at Prime forty seven? I mean, you get your well
done snake.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Right, Hey, it's a snake and steak at Tuesday nights
at steakhouse.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yes, yes, yes, you need that salad to absorb all
the other carbs that you may be something like a
well marbled ribby that'll do that for me.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But you get the idea.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It has been I don't want to call him a
has been, but there's been a swell on social media
for possibly bringing back von Miller if he gets let
go by the Bills.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
This is like fans, Yeah, this is like a fan thing.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I guess apparently this is a thing. And I understand
fans sentiment, I do. I get it your sentimental at
the guy vond has done nothing but talk up Denver
since he left. He still uses WI when referring to
the Broncos. So I get the fans sentiment portion of it,
but I don't get it from where this team is
and where it's going. If you look at production, von
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Miller had basically the same production is done Dura Tilman
last year and had forty more snaps over the course
of the season than Tilman had. Like for the amount
of money that it's gonna un lest von Miller were
to show up and play on a veteran minimum deal,
which I'm told is not something against in the cards,
Why would.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
We do that? Why would that even make sense? Why
would you.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Import that into this locker which has its own leadership,
its own you know, its own set of stuff and
bring in a guy who love von Miller, loved what
he did for the Broncos. You know he's gonna be
a Hall of Famer, but I'm not sure, Like, what
are you bringing him in for at this point?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, obviously, you know, fandom is a real thing, and
when you have a fan favorite like von Miller, I
can see why fans would want to see that return.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Von Miller.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Like we were talking about musicians on that last last tour.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's what they want to see from Vaughn.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
But these will be the same fans if Vaughn hypothetically
were to come here and he looked like his Shechelle
of himself, some of which would be the first ones
to jump on social media to criticize him. And for me,
I don't know how you guys feel about it. I
like to have the last visual from an athlete or
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even an actor on their way out what it was
in their prime. Right.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
The worst thing is seeing a boxer. It's trying to
hold on the.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Don't I don't want to see that because now it's like,
oh my god, it ruins.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That image that you had not there anymore. Yeah, and
Vaughn was one heck of a player.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
We had Coach pegana on and Coach Gaghanna was talking
about it.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I want to remember von in that way. I want
to remember.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Vn and a guy who was very emotional about leaving
this team.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Then he went on to go.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
To the Los Angeles Rams to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I want to remember Vaughn in that particular way.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And let's be totally honest to me, that would not
be helping the Broncos. It would not because now, what
are you asking for as far as compensation? If you're Vn,
how does that impact the other guys in the locker room?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I like it for if the cost was right to
be somewhat of a mentor to John the Cooper and
Nick Benito, it makes sense as far as that is concerned.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But thinking that Vonn is going.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
To be a competitive, productive member of the Broncos defense
to help move them along, I don't think that's gonna
be the case.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, in terms of sacks, quarterback hits, all that kind
of stuff, I'm serious. Like his numbers are basically in
line with Andrea Tillman. He had forty more snaps on
the season than Tillman, but his number is raw numbers are.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Basically on par with Andrea Tillman.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Are you going to pay what von Miller commands at
this point for edge rusher four level performance?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And then once again you start talking about Von not
being every down guy, hem third now pass rush only guy.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And I'm not sure that if the team wanted to
go in that direction, or any team for that matter,
he would be willing to do that just to.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Continue his career.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
We've seen guys kind of hold on being somewhat of
a third down specialist. But then it gets to a
point where you said, okay, well, from a roster standpoint,
you're trying to build a roster. Are you willing to
sacrifice a roster spot for a younger player who is
a little more cost.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Effective, who could really help your team improve?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
To me, this is a reason logically using football logic,
not my emotions.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Right, this doesn't make sense. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't
make much sense to me. I've seen it out there,
suggested a few different places, and I get it again.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I get the fan sentiment portion of it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And you know, if the Broncos maybe got off on
a on a huge run, hot start, you're way out first,
which you know would would seem to not be something
that that I necessarily think is gonna happen, but you
know could and if the Bronco and you get to
the trade deadline and you know Vonn's the team's willing
to eat a little bit of that that deal for
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an end of season rental, then maybe, you know, win
one for the guy who was here the last time
we went there sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Okay, once again, this is where this is the most
difficult part in sports, being able to separate the business
of football from your football relationships.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
That's the hardest thing to do when you're talking about personnel.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Let's just think about when George Payton even traded Vaughn
to the Rams.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That was very emotional for everyone.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Right, here's a guy who was drafted by John Elway
arguably one of the best or the best. Let member
phrase that the best pick that John Elway has ever selected.
Now that guy's in a different uniform, right, I understand
the fandom associated with Vaughn. Listen, I was seere when
they're doing a coaching internship with the Broncos when they
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went on you know that run in twenty fifteen. So
I understand what Vaughn means to this community. And when
you talk to him during the regular season or people
interviewed him and if he was asking about what is
going to be like facing the Broncos, he always kept
the communication clean so not to dirty it up where
he would not be allowed to come back here and
retire here and going to Ring of Fame, which that
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is going to happen, right, But I think it's best
for the team to look more for younger players that
are serviceable and can help.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You think about you know, Joona Ellis. Yeah, that's what
that's I'm getting it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Are you gonna stunt the development of Ellis because Coop
and and Benito are gonna start and you got to
pay Benito and Benito's pay is coming up. You got
they're gonna start. You've got Ellis, who you just drafted
in the second round look very productive when he got.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
On the field.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Even got Daria Tillman look productive when he got on
the field. It means you're punting on him another young
guy who's who's got some emerging talent to get basically the.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Stats that I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's not like Voon's gonna suddenly turn it up and
be that dude again.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
He is what he is at this point, and that
doesn't mean.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That he can't get sacks, but he just doesn't quite
get them nearly at the rate that he used to.
I don't know, man, I I like, I hear you,
I hear the fans out there saying this, but I
just don't think it's one of those things that that
makes a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
This is why fans don't make great right.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You go with your heart instead of you know, insteady
a head. The one thing I did notice on what
you were just saying. I picked up on it, and
I want to I want to go back to it here.
You did a coaching intern with the Broncos during Super
Bowl fifteen, the Super Bowl fifty year, and you did
a scouting internship with the Broncos this past year with
him ad the playoffs. So I'm just saying that the
missing link in that time has been Nick Ferguson an internship.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Here with I'm glad that you, you know, I know
you obs science, Yes, of course, avolchanics.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Uh, you were able to put that, I was the logarithms,
the algorithms.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I was able to do the math here.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I'm just saying we had a remot summing there somewhere
ever square no, I I we we got Yeah. So
the missing piece here and obviously we're figuring this out.
The missing piece has been the Nick Ferguson bump.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yes, just just imagine what could have happened Buffalo on
the trip.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
What you're saying is you're going to be on the
staff next year. I say that we got to get
the card, get some fan push behind you. We gotta
get some together the fans back into this.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
See now once again, like bar Miller, the fandom is
now a real thing.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So we gotta put some beer pressure out. Go to
the combine.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I'll talk to George while we're up there, like, look,
you gotta get back into the building. It is obvious, and.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
That's gonna be somewhat ferg manifesto.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Like see see what happened. I'm dud.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I'm putting a presentation back together right now.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'm hijacking. I'm right here, I use two quarters. I
got right here, the science of Nick Ferguson. Right, I'm
a hijack one of the TV's in the bar Velocity.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I'm a popping up there and then I'm gonna go
through the slides right there.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
All the time they tried, Mack, you turn that shot,
try to get you that want to my presentation that
brought the country staff right now, that's hilarious, and make
it happen. That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
We could we could throw a celebration party afterwards and
the nude party can player whatever that's called. They're too
big for you guys. That makes sense, That makes sense.
I'll tell you what, though, we can't afford them.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I'm still waiting on my Super Bowl fifty NT ring. Yes,
is because I like to think that you know, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Get a ring for that. The people who are working
for the website got a ring for that. I didn't
get I didn't get one. So what happens when you're
a lowly interned Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I guess so, Yes, yes, you call Patrick's Mike, maybe
you know, maybe they can.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Get me one.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You think they got just an extra one hanging around
the building, hanging around like you never came a pictures.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I've been saying all these years, he may have some
replicas and something like that that.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
They made presentation case right here. They got a replica
from like Jostins or something. Yes, exactly a classroom. I
was selling tickets for the Broncos that year after the
Super Bowl, and I got a replica ring. Yeah it
was plastic, but you still got one though, I still
got one, Yes more than you.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yes, that's what I got. Nothing, I got nothing, I
got me.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I got a blank piece of paper that somebody had
traced an outline of a middle finger on.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Uh you know one time? Did they put that on
your car?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
From Sean Payton himself said screw your juicy fruit? He did,
thank you for the juicy fruit. I'll tell you what gesture.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That's a whole lot better than one of my roommates
had done his car. Apparently he was seeing a young lady,
you know, or young ladies.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
He was a man of the people, and his car
got kid.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
She the words in there. Oh she wrote merds paragraphs.
Maybe not, but she wrote one word on the hood
of his car. Yes, I'm not going to say what
it was, but yes it was.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
They thought a little that though.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Like of all the revenge things like if you're got
to do that, doesn't the evidence all lead back to
the perpetrator At that point.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Oh, at that point she wasn't trying to avoid it, Okay,
she wanted.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Him to know it was me.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, the insurance adjuster and the police are going to
know who it was.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And he can't call the cops, so he can't.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
No, no, yes, you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Why not.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's kind of dating violating rules, right, That's how you
win the breakup right there?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
The cops. No, you do call the cops. They'll get
the final word. Now you put it this. Wait wait, wait,
come on, guys. No, you're not gonna do that. She
keep a car. She keeps her car. That's the least
all the cops. They're going to wrest her.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Cheating and breaking the ball, destruction of personal property is.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I can't believe you too.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I'm a grant on this one. Brother, This country to night,
NFL six packs we come back. What's all due respect
to me?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
J von don get that reference. You know what we're
talking about?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
By six six zero a text line with that, it's
time for the FL six.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Packs, Time for the NFL six I'm gonna break a
lot of beer, guys, and inside information you can't find
anywhere else.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Six the top six NFL headline.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
What that's NFL putter Chris Kluey was arrested over a
protest in hunting New Beach City council meeting. Whiter Chris
Kluy was arrested on Tuesday. Clewely was protesting Huntington Beach
decision to display a plaque in its public library that
(16:28):
spelled out the acronym for MAGA in a in a
library for a magical allure and galvanizing adventuress and an
adventure and trying to spell that out all seven members
of the Huntington Beach City Council Republicans. Video from the
city council meeting shows clearly criticizing the MAGA movement during
the public discussion portion calling it a Nazi movement, and
(16:48):
then saying he would engage in civil disobedience after clewe
went to the front of the meeting where the city
council sits police handcuffed him and carried him out. He
was arrested on a charge of disrupting an assembly and
told the Orange Catty redgis sure that he was released
after about four hours in custody.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
What if you o?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Klue He was in the NFL five to twenty thirteen,
playing mostly with the Vikings, but have a short stint
with the Seahawks and Raiders as well. He said at
the end of his career, the political beliefs, including his
support of same sex marriage and criticism of homophobiaan football
had made it unlikely that any team would find him
when they would hire him.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Excuse me, clue.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
He has been an outspoken political person on Twitter in
his post playing days, and while political party stuff should
probably not be up at a public library. What do
we think of a punter making news for being arrested?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, it's not the norm. It's breaking. I want to
say new ground with the information out there by Justin
Tucker that kind.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Of follows in line.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But once again, everyone is entitled to have their own
political relationships or affiliations, but ideas that don't force it
on someone else.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And this was it the proper place for a time
to actually do it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, and they shouldn't have put something in the library clue,
you shouldn't have been up there anyway. Civil disobedience is
still disobedience, however you look at it. And he knew
what was coming when he got arrested himself. Two good
news for salary cap strapped teams. The NFL, as it
outs today that the salary cap will be somewhere between
two hundred and seventy seven point five and two hundred
(18:23):
and eighty one point five million dollars. Teams had estimated
previously at two seventy five, so at least two and
a half million more than they thought it up to
perhaps six and a half year more than they thought.
The cap was was set at two fifty five point
four this past season to twenty four point eight the
season before that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It's been climbing rapidly.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
In recent years due to lucrative broadcasting rights deal. In
the memo, the league said that the cap was reduced
by ten million due to a nine million dollars smoothing adjustment.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
This goes back to.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
COVID in a one million dollar increase to performance based play.
The NFL Players Association has the right to add up
to fifty percent of a nine million deferral back to
the twenty twenty five cap, and the rest will be
folded into the twenty twenty six number, but it has
not shared their plan with the league yet and that
has to happen for a final number to be set.
So if the league decides to do that and then
give the four and a half this year, that would
(19:13):
be the two eighty one. If not, the league could
put it all, the pleasure Association can have it all
the next year and go for them. Their league says
they expect to hear that plan the ultimate cap sometime
next week. What do we think about the increased NFL
salary cap?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Mo money, more money, mo money. That's the first thing.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Get the tech drills going, Hey, this is good news
for my Bengals baby exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Talk about rubber band man.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I mean, now you can pull out some stacks, some bands.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I mean, it's about a six to seven million dollars
bump for everybody based on what they thought it was
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But here's a good christ thing about it.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I know some Broncos fans went crazy because it's like, oh,
the Bronco's gonna have more money. Guess what that means
other teams Guess what.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Means the cost of players will go up a little
bit ahead it hads gone up.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
And I love this for players because there's a lot
of things that the players actually go through. And I
know some fans feel as though they don't make the
same amount of money that the players making players of selfish,
but they have no idea what players have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I do, so I'm happy for this team, Higgins Zamar says.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Guys out there get paid, put the money.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
In the bag. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Again, on the front end, every team or every fan thinks,
all my team's going to have more to spend. But
the reality is when every team's got more to spend,
it just drives up this just inflation just drives.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Up the players.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So the only people that really win here are the
players in the agents collecting their three percent or lower fee.
Beyond that, the team, you don't really get extra relief
as a I mean you might get a little of
it extras as a team, but it really isn't as
much as you think it is because everybody else is
spent up on free agents.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Man, when you look at the two teams or the
three teams that are up there, you got New England
at one hundred and twenty five, one hundred and twenty
five million in cap space, the Vegas Raiders ninety five.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, both those teams figure to be big spenders.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Washington Football Commanders seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
They're going to be buying on defense, that's a lot
of pethos. It is again a legal tender free.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
The NFL fears criticism is going to reduce its supply
of future officials. NFL find a couple of Texans players
for things said after the team's playoff loss.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
To the Chiefs. Saw this past Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Finds imposed on running back Joe Mixon and defense that
Will Anderson were overturned on appeal.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Why did the league office swing and miss.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
In an effort to silence players whose First Amendment rights
are limited in part by the collective Bargaining Agreement. During
at least one of those two hearings, justification was offered
to the NFL, We're told is concerned criticism of current
officials will cause potential future NFL officials to never choose
to become officials. Similar to the aftermath of the league's
concussion epiphany in two thousand and nine, parents started this
(21:53):
year the kids away from football lower levels. They reduced
into sole volume of football players, the potential supply the
future players tricks and well, it's easy to say there's
plenty more where that came from. The Kids who don't
play football could include players who go want to become stars.
What For example, Patty Mahomes had opted for baseball, So
with officials, that's the same idea. Folks could choose otherwise
to become high school officials, decide life too short not
(22:15):
to be harassed, ring games, dragged cook docs online, et cetera.
When the NFL officials become a giant pincushions for nationwide
external criticism, all the league can do is try to
reduce that criticism. The league hopes to make the job
more attracted by minimizing the unattractive aspects of it. So
they'll try to silence coaches, owners, execs, and players by
(22:35):
finding them.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
What do we think about the NFL's fear. But they're
not going to be able to recruit officials.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
There's a bunch of couch chips to me, because it's
not going to change anything. I mean, even a little league.
Have you ever seen a little league game? Well, just
a redulttle league game. Take that little.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
League game and now put it in the hood. Those
referees cats, no, I got.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
The I did get when I was Yeah, those were
the worst, Yes, because.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I have you know all the way af through high school. Dude,
the little league games were the worst. Were the parents
of your business. Why do I care?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Why at the parking lot after two yes, speaking of
which one of my buddies were to college. With refereeing
a youth football game, what's the worst that can happen?
Some parent just comes down and just punches them in
a phase the clock gets them behind because they didn't
agree with the call. So these things are going to
happen because fans are very emotional. Uh, they can't contain themselves.
(23:27):
And also they have an outlet which is social media,
which only up to the anti as far as criticisms.
If the league wants to stop this, all they have
to do is in the fourth quarter of the Chiefs game,
make sure that it's balanced.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I Look, I do believe that in this era of
everybody finding out everybody's business online, and I believe that
fans go overboard with this sometimes I do believe it
needs to be accountability in this because I'm a better
and I certainly don't want referees tilting games, you know,
and you know, making things outside the realm.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Of what happens on the field and quotes here, So
I see both sides of this.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
But I've I've been on the I've been on the
get the business for refereeing side.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I'll tell you man it that's something I uh. I
walked out.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I was the whole plate umpire walked out of a
youth baseball game one time. I had this drunk part
behind me just screaming, and about the fourth inning, I
had enough of it. And after telling him to sit
down and shut up and you know and whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Else I told him, he kept going. I asked the
other parents to sitting down. They wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So I just walk off left the game in the
middle of the fourth inning.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I'm just gonna walk out of here. And I was like,
I'm giving this is it like you're gonna go where
I'm gonna go. And he didn't go. So I went
twenty bucks, saying enough for that. Well, I'm just I'm saying,
it's not like I didn't have a crew. I'm a
one guy. I'm referend this thing. You know. It was
twenty five, yes, you know. I was just like, I'm
the one guy umping this thing.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
There's no other There's no other umpire in this game,
you know, which is another mistake. You should never have
just one official at any rocks that's your car.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Uh No, I p a smart guy. I wan to
see where I park. I changed.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I always changed, you know, and then I parked aways
a little bit out of the way where they wouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
See, there's that over to mechanics sciminator registery.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Got it up here.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I miss some common sense, you know, might be some
common sense stuff sometimes, but I know how to keep
the car safe.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Four.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's the fun news here, Nick, you friend, Clinton Portis
joining DeShawn Jackson. Staff at Delaware State School announced Clinton
Ports to be the running bass coach the run game
coordinator for the twenty twenty five season. Shawn Jackson was
hired as their head coach back in December. Portis was
in a Rocos second round pick in two thousand and
two offensive Rookie of the Year, traded to Washington for
a corner Champ Bailey after two seasons and played for
(25:39):
the teams through the twenty ten season. Portis ran twenty
two two thousand, two d and thirty time excuse me
for nine twenty fe yards and seventy five touchdowns over
the course of his career. Caught two hundred forty seven
passes for two thousand, eighteen yards and five touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
The Delaware State job is his first coaching position.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Can you tell us about run game coordinator running backs
coach Clinton Port as a coach?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You know this is great for CP.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I know that he is passionate about the game and
because he's got a son who plays high school football
and like every proud parent, he's at every single game
sharing his butt off. But it's great to see former
players get back to the game and also give back
to the game.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And it's all about opportunity.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
If you give a player an opportunity, they're going to
make the most of it. And I'm rooting for CP
man so they can have a fun year.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
But he was like hey man in.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
A text threat, hey makes you send the kids his
waist because they're trying to turn that school into a
football factory.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
So yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I mean, Delaware State is not on anybody's being a
football powerhouse.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I go ahead and hire DeShawn Jackson.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And this isn't the only school that we've seen do this,
or to hiring a former NFL player to sort of
put themselves on the map. Well, I don't know what
we know of DeShawn Jackson and Clinton. Portis's coaches are
Michael Vick for that matter, Norfolk eight. But you know,
at at the end of the day, it's certainly getting
those programs attention. And it feels to me like this
is something that sort of originated with the CU thing
with Coach Prime.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I mean, you know, we saw Coach Prime dominated at the.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
HPCU level, but you know, he stepped through the P five.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It's been a bit of a struggle as he tries.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
To build a dormant program, but it's brought that program
an enormous amount of attention, which has helped with recruiting
and rebuilding in that process. So it'd be interesting to
kind of keep an eye on some of these schools
and see as more and more people try this, how
it works and how these guys.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Are as coaches.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, it'd be great for guys just kind of get
their feet wet, and for me just kind of seeing
what kind of coach that CP is gonna be because
he spent a lot of those years here in Denver
Alex Gibbs, So that's gonna be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Five Bear season ticket holders who want to see Ben
Johnson's first season as the team's head coach in person,
gonna have to pay a little bit more for the
chance for multiple reports. The team sent a letter to
season tick holders this week and forming them they are
raising the prices by an average of ten percent for
the twenty twenty five season. In the letter, Bears president
(28:08):
Kevin Warren wrote to via Chris Emma of six seventy
to score that the team made the increase after incorporating
market dynamics, industry.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Trends, and a strong home schedule.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It's a home schedule figures features games against the Lions, Packers,
and Vikings obviously, and the Cowboys, Giants, Brown, Steelers, and Saints.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Leading credulity to be strained a little.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
With the strong home schedule, the Bears raised season ticket
prices by average of eight percent before going five to
twelve during the twenty twenty four season. That is a
eight percent and then a ten percent increase for Bears
tickets over the last two seasons. Broncos raised ticket price
as well. A question I'm going to be asking the
team up there and at the combine when we get
a chance on that to get some clarification on that
(28:50):
as well. What do you think of the NFL raising
ticket prices to the port where.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
God, it's not really affordable for the compman much anymore.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Well, I mean this is where these hit been headed
from the very beginning. I recall the time period when
I was playing for the Broncos to get I get good,
good seats, also great seats. I mean, you're talking about
what maybe ninety dollars, eighty to ninety dollars. That that
number has continued to escalate, and I know some fans
are getting upset because they feel as though they're being
(29:19):
priced out, and some fans will opt to just kind
of stay home. And I know the Broncos in a
situation where their current stadium lease is starting to expire,
they got to determine whether they're going to try to
build a new stadium or they're going to stay where
they are. And I know what those ticket prices going
up is going to.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Really change the way.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
That consumers, fans actually purchase tickets.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, it's it's I mean, it's the thing.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I had someone complain to me that they're getting priced
out of being able to afford Broncos tickets, and you know,
kind of lamenting that it's becoming like the Super Bowl,
a corporate event where you know, big business can afford
to buy these seats, but the common man can.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
But I tell you this, if you currently have Broncos
season tickets, don't need food. Don't let it press you out.
Don't sell them because most fans they will not sell them.
If them in resell them, that means that they got
to go to a blood bank and give blood. They're
keeping those those tickets because you know how difficult people have.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Been waving like twenty thirty years.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
So you can raise the license for the broadcast, you've
gotta find buyers that's not gonna get.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
This next of thing. If you're trying to do that, Yeah,
just just buy them and resell them.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Sick. How strong is the World Olympics strong enough to
make millions pay attention to sport that for the ensuing
three years and fifty weeks they.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Don't care about spreader. Noah Lyles hopes to change all that.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
The twenty twenty four gold medalist plans to start the
process by racing Dolphins receiver Tyreek Hill. Something that's constantly
on my mind is how to keep track relevant, Lyles
told NBC News. Track and Field has a great reputation
inside the Olympics, but in the marketing sense when it
comes to the US, just fallen short a few too
many times. Lyles also has a selfish motivation and light
of the lack of enduring and widespread fame that comes
(30:50):
from winning Golden and becoming regard as the fastest man
on the planet. I want to be more than just
a runner, because there's enough runners. Who's the performers, Lyles said,
in his mind, we'd get to race and beat someone
far more famous, who plays the most popular sport in America.
Iles said, I'm not here to play around. I'm then
serious about this. I'm gonna bring everything I got for this.
And I guess he's willing to take the heat for
the perception that he's lowering himself to raise someone who's
(31:12):
in a world class printer.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Although Tyreek Hill does have world class speed.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I get a lot of hate from people who don't
believe that I should be racing him.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
They're like, this is beneath you.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Apparently it's not, because here we are some saying we ah,
they would be beneath Hill. Although the details about the
Tyreek versus Noah have not been announced. Lyle's effort to
hype the TVD foot race includes boasting that he plans
to set.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
A new world record.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
You know, whether that's enough to get people fully invested
in their rain raids to be seen. Maybe maybe they
should stage an argument on urban.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Street that'll help out. But John Rockers have Mahomes reference. Yes,
I think fans would tune in to see.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
This because world class beed versus what we think was
world class beat.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I would watch that flight. I'll define not to fight.
I think in the band fight those two guys fighting.
But no, I'm gonna watch said race.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
You gotta have something else do, because you can't just
do a ten second race to be done with like
one hundred meter dash.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
But what there's a lead up, the highlights and all
of these interviews kind of lead up to them.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I was like a box of mine. You need some
undercard racist you versus me, we'll make it happen. How
about you versus Ryan Edwards? Fantastic procus cut your knight back,
cut your race
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