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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to it Broncos Country.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Tonight, I'm your guest host Grant Smith, sitting in for
Benjamin Albright. He will join us in the next segment
and here with Nick Ferguson. Thanks to Rick Lewis for
joining us in the previous hour. If you missed any
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the podcast where Rick Lewis is a two time guest,
Nick Ferguson a one time guest, but that will be
shortly lived.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Hopefully.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm going to talk him into joining me for another
episode here before long.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Oh, you don't have to talk me into it. I mean,
I'm not bitemint all. But all you have to do
is tell me when.
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just to get him on the on the on the
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Speaker 4 (01:05):
Hey, brother, whenever you want me on man, Hey, let's
do it again. It was fun.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
But with that, let's get to the NFL six pack.
It is time for the NFL six pat.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I'm going to tread the last year of insight and
insight information you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I know six the top six NFL headlines.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
What Following the Jets decision to move on from Aaron Rodgers,
which was recently made public, some Jets players, including star
Quinn Williams, have expressed their displeasure. Quinn Williams tweeted out,
I guess it's time for another rebuild Tuesday. Aaron Glenning
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acknowledge that the decision upsets some of the players.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
In the locker room.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Are you surprised that this decision to move on from
Rogers seems to be or is as controversial as it
seems to be.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
No, I'm not surprised because usually that happens. And when
you think about Aaron Rodgers and what he's done in
his time in the league, obviously, you know, guys have
a lot of respect for him, and on the outside
people may not know Aaron Rodgers in a way that
Quinton Williams knows Aaron Rodgers, and he probably figured that,
you know what, you change the GM, you change the
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head coach, you make some changes here and there on
offensive defense, they're still in the mix. And I get
what he's saying because it was the same way for
me when eventually the Broncos moved away from Jake Plumber.
I mean, there are a lot of guys who were
really upset because I mean they didn't really see Jake
Cutler as being.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
That guy that can lead. So I totally understand.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I guess this blow to this of quinnin Williams, so
I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
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But no, no, I'm not surprised either, because think about
Quinn Williams a generational talent, like really really good, and
he's like, damn, we got to rebuild a game. We're
gonna get another rookie in here and suck for two
more years at least with Aaron Rodgers, well, you could
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acknowledge that his skill set has declined a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
He's still a high level quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And now someone like Quinn Williams is thinking, Wow, one
more rebuild, like maybe he's ready to get out of
New York as well.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
If you're a Jets fan, I think that has to
be the concern. You've got these three young core pieces,
Garrett Wilson, quinnn Williams, and Sauce Gardner, and you've had
all three, you know, since I don't know the last
three four weeks of the NFL season, expressed some sort
of displeasure with being with the Jets. So when Wilson
asked for a trade if Rogers was going to come back,
we have this from Williams, and then Sauce Gardner when
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they asked about trying to recruit te Higgins to New York,
he just went.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Nah, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Two already hot NFL trademarket. This is an especially active trademarket.
I feel heat it up even more yesterday as Titans
edge rusher Harold Landry and Patriots defensive lineman Devon Godshaw
as well sorry as Packers cornerback jay R Alexander were
all added to that trade rumor mill, Which of those
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players do you think is the biggest potential difference maker.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
For whoever might acquire him?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
And should the Broncos pursue any of those players?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, I saw with the last one first, No, I
don't believe the Broncos should pursue any of those guys, because,
once again, this is already young team. And I know
someone is probably screaming at me saying, well, you add
veteran talent, but there's some rooky talent in this upcoming
draft that will not only prove to be guys that
are foundational pieces would have saved you a lot of money.
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But I mean, Jaya Alexander is a guy in the
league that you say, well, he's covered pretty well what
he fit with the Broncos would like to do.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I mean, adding guys.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Like that would definitely help out, but you already have
Jakwan mcmiller do you already have mos you have PS two.
I mean for the Broncos is linebacker to safety is
getting better up front. So a lot of these players
right now that's on this list, I say no two.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Here's my answer for JR. Alexander No, no, No. Talented
as he is, he is a cancer, it seems like
in the locker room and to team building, and that's
the last thing we need here in Denver. In regards
to the other two, I'm fine with adding more pieces
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Harold Landry and Devon Godshaw. Fine, that's fine with me
if you want to take a look at those guys,
but Alexander definite.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
No from me, fully agree on Alexander being a headache thing.
I just it's not worth it, especially when you're already
so strong at that position. Godshaw, though, I wonder if
he could maybe be this year's John Franklin Myers, you
know that refresh that defensive line sub maybe with DJ
Jones leaving and he's a veteran who might be a
little cheaper than DJ Jones and you still maybe have
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an opening for a young guy to fill in there.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
The Kansas City Chiefs will be using the franchise tag
on starguard Tray Smith that came out today in an
effort to keep their line intact after we saw it
kind of get brutalized.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
By the Philadelphia Eagles there.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
The tag will cost twenty three point four million dollars,
bringing their total investment on the offensive line for this
upcoming season up to ninety five point three million dollars.
That's over a third of the total salary cap. Only
three NFL teams have more than sixty seven million dollars
invested in the line. Again, the Chiefs will be almost
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thirty million over that. Do you think Casey is over
investing in the offensive line considering their needs elsewhere on
the roster? Or is this the right move to stay
atop the AFC with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
This is a great move by Kansas City because everything
saws in the trenches. If you can't get after a quarterback,
and if you can't protect your quarterback, then you're.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Not going to win a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
And when you look at Patrick Mahomes, just three more
years that he has left, and when you looking at
it Terrey Smith, I mean he's only twenty five years young, right,
that's a young guy you are investing in.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And here's the crazy thing for me.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Every single year we always see teams up against the cap.
But Brett Beach he finds a way. He finds a
way to move money around when he don't have it
to kind of hold on to some of the players
who have helped them get to this point.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
So great move o, libahead.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, and did he watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Like, you got to invest in that offensive line if
you're Kansas City and Tray Smith one of the few
pieces that you want to keep around there because he
does protect Pactrick Mahomes and other big news coming.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Out of Kansas City today.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
By the way, this may open up the door for
Nick Bolden to the Broncos in a much more realistic
way that would be a huge help at linebacker.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
But other big news.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Coming out of Kansas City today from the Paton McAfee
show about Travis Kelcey's return to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
He said, definitely coming back.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Pat McAfee reached out to him and this was the
message back from Travis kelcey to Pat McAfee.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
The message was my dog exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation
point three. Source says says, I'm coming back for sure.
I'm gonna try and get to the best shape I've
been this offseason and get back to the mountaintop. Got
a real bad taste in my mouth with how I
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played in that last game and how I got the.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Guys ready for battle. I can't go out like that.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point and guess what.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
One more exclamation wow bit.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
We'll get into that more with Benjamin Olbright coming up
here in the next segment.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Yeah, you know, I'm not overly worried about that, But
to the point about a fording Tray Smith, they can
work with Travis Kelce free up almost twenty million dollars there.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That can make up for it. And I agree they
got to.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Do this to protect Mahomes, especially after what we saw
in the Super Bowl. But if I'm a Broncos fan,
I also I think I'm a little excited about it.
They're not getting the offensive line any better with this move.
They're only preventing it from getting worse, and they're kind
of hamstringing themselves in regard to addressing the other very
real needs on this ross or Today at the NFL
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Scouting Combine, Travis Hunter expressed that it's super important to
him that he has selected first overall in this year's
NFL draft.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
It got me thinking about what.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Nick, you were saying a week or so back about
Cam Newton's comments about being MVP and the importance of
winning that award. So I was wondering, is there any
similarity in your mind between being that number one overall
pick and a given draft class and winning that MVP award.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Well, for me, it's not when you get drafted. It
is where you get drafted.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
That's all important part about it.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Every kid wants to be the first off the war
and the first overall pick. But sometimes we've seen over
the past twenty plus years, guys are drafted by teams
that have bad roster, bad management, bad coaching, and that
guy's labeled as as a bus Whatever team picks up
a talent like Travis Hunter, they're going to get an
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extraordinary kid with extraordinary ability, and hopefully they're not too
stubborn where they're not allowing him to at least attempt
to play both sides.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, I think it's a cool feather in the cap
if you're to take a number one overall and he
also did address the desire to play both sides of
the ball and some of the discussions he's had in
some of the meetings at the Combine this week.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
You know, I'll get some meetings our receiver. It did
some meetings at dB, so still up in the air.
They say everybody, nobody has ever done it for real
the way I do it. But I tell him that
I'm just different. I'm a different person.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yeah, you know, we haven't seen a guy James Pearce's size,
how James Pierce ran. You know, new things happen. I
think you should definitely give Travis Hunter a try at it.
I also loved when he was asked about potentially playing
pun returner and he said, I already got two jobs.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Five little NFL rule change news to close this out here,
The NFL is looking to expand its replay Assist feature
for twenty twenty five, with more fouls being eligible for review. However,
NFL exec Troy Vincent said that there was no appetite
among the Competition committee to change the rule to allow
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replaces to throw a flag that was missed by live officials.
As it currently works, they can undo penalties that were called,
but in obvious face mask penalty, pass interference, stuff like
that cannot be added on to the play after the fact.
Do you think replay acests should be allowed to throw
those flags? And if so, what do you think the
reason is for this?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
The way if you can take a flag away, you
should be able to give it in my frame of mind,
in the way that I think because you've seen a
lot of games both one and laws off of four
calls on the field, and I know the referee is
a human, they make mistakes.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
But if you can correct things in New York and just.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Kind of stabilize things, why not bring balance to it.
Because the whole thing when you talk about the league
and you listen to Roger Goodell, it's the integrity of
the game.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Being able to protect the integrity of the game.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
And now with so many sportsbooks involved, to me, that
makes teams or not teams, but fans start to think
like are they making the right call or or they're
trying to favor one team or the other.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
So hopefully they do this.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I don't know what the hold up is, but there's
the right way to fix it, and then to make
sure every call is actually called.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, I completely agree. And what was it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It was the Vikings Lions game where Sam Darnold was
in the zone, clearly got his head almost ripped.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Off, and they missed the call. That's such an easy
one to just you know.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They have the instant replay officials that can chime in
right from right in the middle of the game.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It doesn't slow it down at all.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Why not just you know, buzz down to the referee
and say, hey, clearly face mask here, just throw the
flag and we'll move on with the game. I don't
think anyone's going to be upset with that.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
No, people will be upset that it's not happening. And
that's not even the only primetime game this season where
that exact circumstance with a face mass penalty happened.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Six last good of rules change news.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
For today, NFL EXAC Troy Vinson also said to the
media yesterday that it's time for the NFL to fix
its regular season overtime rules. The current ideas being thrown
around are either returning it to its former fifteen minute
format or mirroring the playoff format entirely, where both teams
are guaranteed of possession even if a touchdown is scored
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on the first.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
How would you fix NFL overtime?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Well, I like the college rules because in college you
go to the two point conversion that forces teams to
come up with their best plays. And I remember watching
the game last year with my family when Georgia Tech
played Georgia and they would start they started running out
of plays to actually call that.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I'm watching television. I'm watching Georgia Tech line up in
the same.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Formation over and over again, trying to run the same
freaking play. But I like what college football is doing,
and maybe that is something that the NFL should do.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, he took the words out of my mouth. I
love the college football over time rules, but I think
the realistic way this goes is that they would just
change it for the same thing they do in the playoffs.
Guarantee that possession to both teams regardless of what happens
on the first drive. If the first team that has
the ball scores.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
A touchdown, you got to go down and score a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
As the first team kicks a field goal, you've got
to go down and at least kick a field goal,
or if you score a touchdown, you win the game.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's over.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
I think that will be what actually happens. I think
that's what they'll to really do too. But college has
such a good format that Georgia Tech Georgia game is
already insta classic to me, I'm gonna have I'm gonna
remember that forever. And I don't think the NFL provides
quite those same epic overtime moments at this point. I
think they should absolutely hop off the college.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, the rules are hindering those epic moments in the NFL,
and I think.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
They will change that.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
They're usually pretty good about that. That is your NFL
six pack, you know, Nick, I'm usually behind the board
where Seegers is sitting, and I love a good SoundBite.
So just two of my favorite drops that I've ever
come across. Since we were talking about Sam Darnold and
Travis Hunter as well, here's one from Mark Johnson, who
is the voice of the Buffs here on KOA, and
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Paul Allen, the voice of the Vikings.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
He's an alien though he's a freak, he's a he's the.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Best player in college Football's too long.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I love Allen, But real quick, before we go to break,
why not give Travis Hunter an opportunity to play on
both sides of the ball, Like, make him prove that
he can't do it, don't just tell him that he's
not allowed.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Okay, this is because the NFL is very archaic in
some ways that they think we can't.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Get into all of them tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But in this particular one, some coaches are saying their ways.
They came up like, well, no, a gall only plays
one position, let him try see what happens.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
YEP, I agree.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
We got our wet blanket Live from Indianapolis. Coming up
next with Benjamin Albright on Broncos Country tonight KOA fifty
AM ninety four to one FM, talking about Travis Hunter
playing both sides of the ball in the last segment
on the KOA Common Spirit health text line from the
seven to one to nine. As far as Travis Hunter
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and a NFL team that was going to draft him,
the injury factor of playing both sides of the ball
has to come into play.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Well, yeah, it definitely does. But keep this in mind too.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I know if stories were guys have fallen down the stairs,
tripping over their dog, or slipped on a bar soap.
So we can't wrap ourselves or players in bubble wrap,
But you got to go out there and allow them
to play with. In the case of Travis Hunter, you
don't have to give him forty plays a game. I mean,
he just could be a package where he's just it's.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Eight plays, that's it.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, let's go out to the KOA Common Spirit Health
Hotline and bring on Benjamin al Brides he's usually sitting
in this chair and get his thoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Ben How are you tonight, man?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
What do you think about Travis Hunter playing both sides
of the ball in the NFL?
Speaker 9 (17:35):
Well, look, if Travis wants to.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Put in the kind of work that I put in today,
do it playing both sides between BCT and kawait. He's
welcome to follow my lead and just putting in that
kind of hard work day in and day out. And no,
I'm kidding.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Look, I guess it with Ryan earlier and that first
of all, in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Season seventeen games, you're going to get nearly double the
snaps you know that you do in college and then
and the other part of issues, like the NFL is
is different. You know, at the at the collegiate level,
you got a playbook and you can you're gonna have
twenty to forty plays, right you get to the NFL,
you might have a six hundred page playbook. You've got
to sit in offensive meetings and defensive meetings, and I
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don't know how you do both at the same time.
I think Tavis is incredibly talented, but I think he's
a full time corner who has a sub package of
you know, five, six, ten plays at a receiver and
you just try to see if you can handle that.
If you can handle that, you go with it. If
you can't handle that, and then I think you, you know,
you kind of dial it back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, And you know, speaking of extremely talented people, speaking
with Benjamin Albright as he's been covering the combine from
Indianapolis all week and we just got we're losing you.
You're back in town tomorrow. You're on KOA Sports.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So with Rick Lewis.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know, we lost the O g Ryan Edwards to
KOA Sports the.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Afternoon Drive a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
We just got to quit putting on such a great
program every night and getting you guys bumped up to
drive time.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
Well, you know that's part of it.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
It could just be that, you know, Ryan just he
just partied too hard. He gets the scene a little
too too hard. Anyway, Now he's really struggling right now.
He was, he was toughing it out through through the
show today. Good good for him. He's one of the
hardest working dudes. And you know, I'm happy to fill
in for him tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I blame it on the vegan diet.
Speaker 9 (19:23):
Yeah, I blame on the vegan diet as well.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
All right, So obviously just stick into the AFC West.
It seems as though the conversation about Matthew Stafford possibly
linking up with the Raiders, that seem as though it's
picking up steam.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
What are you hearing about that?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Well, you know, from what I understand, initially the Rams
were not really trying to let Stafford get away.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
It was supposed to be, all right.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
We'll let matt check the market, we'll go come back
with a number, we'll find something to work.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
But you know the problem is you let a guy
outside the door to do that, and all.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Of a sudden you got people sweet talking him and
saying you can be the face of our franchise. We're
willing to pay you that number, and so that's what
you have. The Raiders thing is picking up steam, and
it's not a done deal yet, but it is severely
trending in that direction. And you know, I don't I
don't know if the Rams are gonna be able to
come back eleventh hour and rescue this thing, because it
looks like the Raiders have got kind of a financial parameter,
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you know, thing in place.
Speaker 9 (20:19):
For Matt Stafford. And you know, it's just a question
now agreeing to compensation for a trade which is probably
somewhere around two second rounders, and getting the thing done.
And I tell you, the Raiders they've got a plan.
You know, Tom Brady's out there, he's working this thing.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
He's got a play. He wants to get Matt Stafford
in there, draft Aston Janny at six, and all of
a sudden, your offense starts to look wildly different than
it did last year.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And you said earlier today, I think I heard this
correctly on KOA Sports, that this is not infringing on
the tampering in the NFL. Correct And that led to
the kerfuffle between Jordan Schultz and Ian Rappaport at Starbucks yesterday.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah, this is not considered tampering by the league because
the Rams had given permission for Stafford to go out
and explore this stuff, so you know, and the Rams,
for their part, are trying to say, well, we gave
permission for his agent to talk to teams, not for
him to be up at the Yellowstone Club in Montana,
you know, skiing it up with Tom Brady. But you know,
it is what it is, and so you know, I
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at the end of the day, you know, you let
somebody outside the doors and you really can't control what.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Happens as far as that kind of stuff goes.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
So the Rams have nobody blame for themselves.
Speaker 9 (21:30):
And they really the Rams tick it mad.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I mean, you know, what was this two years ago
where you know, Matt Stafford's.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Down in Cabo just happens to have the.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Cavana next to Sean McVay.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
It's weird how that guy just happens to have the
spots next.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
To the teams that want him.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
That is something that is very odd.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
But there's another thing that's happening or happens today where
you are that is becoming, I guess a mainstay thing.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
But it's still odd.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Nonetheless, watching big guys run fast time. I mean, what's happening, man,
because we're seeing guys well like two sixty two seventy
like running some four four of what's happening in the game.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
Today, Man, this is one of the I was talking to.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Somebody today and I was like, this is becoming a
league where you can't talk smacked offensive lineman anymore because
they're running four sixes.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You know.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
It's one of those things man that Yeah, guys, I
guess they're getting faster and faster.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
We saw a couple of.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
Linebackers out there running four four four fives.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
That is just ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Landon Jackson and Shimore Stewart out there jumping over forty
inches in the vertical.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Yeah, at two sixty plus.
Speaker 9 (22:35):
I mean, there's only the four guys in the league
history that have done that. That's two guys in this draft.
And then a guy named Mario Williams and a guy
named Miles Garrett, and I'm pretty sure you heard both
of them.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Benjamin Albright, our guest live from Indianapolis covering the NFL Combine,
help you back on KOA Sports tomorrow, Ben, You guys
have had some great interviews out there, you and Ryan Edwards.
Of course you had the exclusive one on one with
GM George Payton. You can find that at Koacolorado dot com.
You also talked with Jordan Reid, Emery Hunt, and Charles
McDonald today. What's been the most interesting tidbit of information
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you've gotten out there at the combine that you can
share with us?
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Well, for those guys, I would say Emory gave a
great anecdote about a tight end D three tight end
and if you want to go listen to that and
if you get gat a great anecdote about that, and
I would suggest everybody go check that out. In terms
of other things that are going on, I mean we've
picked up on some stuff, you know, the Stafford story
we've been kind of out in front of with it
trending toward him going to the Raiders. And I'll say this,
if he goes to the Raiders, the Rams replacement option
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is is Aaron Rodgers. That's their primary, their own Rogers
and Adams in So something to keep your eye on there.
And then the big news today is that the Giants
sort of realizing that they're out on the Stafford deal
and they're trying to put together a package to trade
up to number one to put themselves in the driver's
seat for a quarterback. So you know things, the wheels
get moving when you get to the combine, and that's
sort of the big news of the day. Well also, I.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Mean here Denver, a lot of news is about the
tight end position. What direction would the Broncos go? So
I'll ask you because some of these tight ends have
either tight ends I mean, I guess relationship with the
organization or ties to a particular player who might play quarterback.
So Terrence Ferguson playing at Oregon and you got gunn
at Helm, who is I mean from Denver.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I mean he got ties to Dave Logan.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
If you were to look at these guys, which guy
would you say the Broncos were to select will probably
end up being a better fix for bo Nicks?
Speaker 9 (24:34):
Well, I mean obviously Ferguson's played with him, but I
would still say, you know, despite the namesake for you there, Nick,
I would say gunner Helm is probably a little bit
of a better fit. You know, Helm's probably probably a
fourth round type guy, maybe a fifth round type guy.
Ferguson maybe a maybe a fifth or sixth round type guy.
And so you can get these guys on day three.
You don't have to mortgage the farm.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
You can take care of some other k needs.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
Let them fall in your lap.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
And I think that'd be every pretty cool. One thing
I will say is that, I mean, look look at
who the Broncos have interviewed. They're gonna draft a running
back and they're gonna draft the tight end. The question
is where they do those two things. And you know
in a draft it's it's pretty deep at those two positions.
You might be able to get them a little bit
later than you think.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Great information has always been enjoy her last night in Indianapolis,
and we'll see you back here.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
In Denver tomorrow. Looking forward to it. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's Benjamin Albright our koa insider host of Broncos Country
tonight and now on Afternoon Drive all week.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Moving on moving up to the big time.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Nick, Yeah, but he's still Benjamin alb Bright. He's always
gonna do something that kind of brings him down.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
It will always work his way.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Back then, you were talking about Terrence Ferguson and Gunner Helm,
a couple of the tight end prospects in this draft,
and they both caught up well. They were at the
at the podium but Ryan asked Ryan Edwards asked him
a couple of great questions. This is Terrence ferguson the
tight End out of Oregon, talking about his relationship with
Broncos quarterback Bo Nicks.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I would be really cool.
Speaker 10 (26:01):
You know, was one of my best friends and I
still keep up with him during today. So being able
to be with the guy that you've played with me
for and a great guy like that.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
It'd be amazing. He's talking about the prospect of me.
I've just talked to him as a friend, you know,
and just kept up with them.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So do you think it's a big deal those relationships.
You know, we saw Troy Franklin get drafted by the
Broncos last year mostly because of, in my mind, his
relationship with Bo Nicks. You've got both step brother Tez
coming out this year. Could be another guy that they
add to the roster.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I'm excited to see what he runs at the combine,
but only one hundred and fifty five pounds soaking wet,
so that'll be interesting. But do you think these relationships
should be something that impacts how the Broncos draft?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yeah, it is, because when you think about the game itself,
it is built and shape the round relationships. A quarterback
has to be in tune with his offensive line, and
he has to be in tune with those killed players.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
They have to trust you actually.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Known as though they're lurking defenders like Steve Atwater and
myself looking for that big hit. They want to know
that you can put the ball into plays that kind
of keeps their career on the upward swing, opposed to putting.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
The ball behind them or throwing it late.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
In a lot of defense, the linebacker and safety to
pretty much take.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Their heads off. So for me, that's a huge thing.
And you know, Grant, a lot of teams don't do that.
They don't talk to some of.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Their players about okay, well you know this guy, tell
me about him, or say, okay, well maybe we should
bring this guy in because he played with him at
this particular college.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
I mean, you take things in.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Consideration if your guy played with him in high school.
But college is what you look for because it's about
expanding the chemistry.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Can we think as one And I always like to
do this.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I like to take like football things and things with
sports and relate them bring them back to relationships. You
and your partner have to be on the same page.
If you're not on one accord, it's not going to work.
And like here's another same for my mom. The right
hand has to know what the left hand is thinking.
And it's true like if your bow knicks. You look
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out there and you say, okay, well, Terrence Ferguson, I
played with him maybe at Oregon, right, and you may
look at him and say the route calls for him
to run a flat route. But you look out there
you say, well, the linebacker is kind of cheating a
little inside, so you just kind of give him a
look and he goes, okay, well, now I'm gonna change
my route up. Instead of being a flat route, I'm
going vertical.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Those are the types of relationships you need to have
because in my time playing here, I played with some
extraordinary players, and I played with the player man arguably
the best player I've ever had an opportunity to play with,
an Avid champ Bailey. When you play with the guy
long enough, it gets to a point where I don't
even have.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
To say anything to him, just give him the side eye.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
We look at the formation, we already know what the
defense is called. Well, and I look at him, and
based on the look he's given.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
To me, I already know what I need to do.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
We're going to stick with the coverage or we're gonna
change something up. And that's what you need to have
as a quarterback. So if it's Tamas Johnson, if it's
Gunner Hill, more importantly is Tamas Ferguson. The idea is
looking at your players at different positions and asking yourself,
how do we get more production out of that player?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, and we saw it for years with Aaron Rodgers
and Davante Adam. Speaking of Gunner Helm, I'm glad you
brought him back up. I promise this sound earlier. This
is him talking with Ryan Edwards when he was at
the podium earlier today, talking about his relationship with Dave
Logan and what it would mean to him being a
hometown kid getting drafted by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 10 (29:43):
Yeah, I mean growing up as a Colorado kid. Obviously
I said this before. I was you know why you
took that trip down on twenty five or up by
twenty five down to you know, it was a bestco
the sports Thorty. So it's had a couple of names,
but it was kind of you know, you know.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
It always lingers in the back of my mind. That
was the dream back of it day. You know, it's
obviously shifted a little.
Speaker 10 (30:02):
Bit just to get to the National Football League, playing
the National Football League, drive to the National Football League.
But you know, I think it goes pretty unnoticed that
coach Logan's way that he develops players and he knows
what's best for guys. You know, he was asking me
what my weight was when I was a freshman, so
I think he always kind of had a plan that
I was going to have my hand in the dirt.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
At some point.
Speaker 10 (30:22):
You know, I made the switch only a few weeks
before my rookie Sea, before my junior year of high school,
put my hand in the dirt for the first time.
The guy who was playing tight end at the time
was George Fitzpatrick. He was an All American tackle. They
moved him one gap in, moved me one gap in,
put my hand in the dirt, and we became the
two most highly recruited kids in the history of Cherry Creek.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
So Coach Logan, Coach Betty, they know what they're doing.
Speaker 10 (30:44):
And you know, one piece of advice I would give
to anyone looking to transfer into a school in Colorado,
Cherry Creeks your best bet.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
What was like though, meeting with the Broncos and who'd
you talk to me? It was a dream come true.
Speaker 10 (30:55):
Obviously I talked to coach Sean Payton, coaching George Payton,
So a lot of guys like that, you know, would
never envision myself being being that close and talking to
them just about football. But you know, it goes back to,
you know, just dream big, because if you work at it,
if you want to achieve it, you know, if you're
bold enough to say it, and then you're bold enough
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to do it. So from a young age I told
people that I wanted to play in the National Football League.
Obviously it's coming to Fruition this week. This is the
first step to get in there in the combine. So
just doing my best, really enjoying every.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Second of it.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
What a great answer from Gunner helm Man, and how
cool for him if he does get get picked up
by the Broncos in the draft. But I think that
speaks to the value of great coaching, whether it be
in life or in sports. Someone seeing something in you
that's going to help you progress to the next version
of you like Gunner Helm getting moved from wide receiver
to tight end.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Coach Dave Logan at Terry Creek.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
This is why I've always said, if you ever look
at the word coach in the Western dictionary and I
don't have one on me right now, the first word
to define the coach should we teach, because you're teaching
that particular player the extras and o's of the game.
But the most important thing that you can ever give
back to a player.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Is teach them how to be a man. Yeah, that
part is so important.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
But really quickly on the familiarity part of it and
why it's so vital. Look at your own Cincinnati Bengals.
They take Joe Burrow and then what else did they.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Do Chase and why Yeah, because of that relationship.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Because of that relationship and keeping those guys together, it
is so important. Just think about, like a musical band,
how upset you were when that musical band broke up.
That's what it's like for certain fans watching an ensemble
of players on either side of the ball break up.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
It's like you broke up the band.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, and we've getten We're getting the band broke up
over and over again.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Here on Broncos Country, right, But it.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Gives me the opportunity to sit in with someone like you,
Nick Ferguson, and I'm glad we are building the relationship
that we're building.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I always have a blast chat with you on this show.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Man. Well we're not I'll break up like the Beatles,
because we're going to see each other every single day. Unfortunately,
this is our I guess the last run of the week,
but there's going to be more opportunities for us to
do the show together.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, we'll get you back on the podcast, Stacey from Utah.
Sorry we didn't get to your text. I will save
that one. I'll make sure Nick and Bree answer it tomorrow.
On Broncos Country Tonight, we got buff Prime Time coming
up next. I've been your guest host Grant Smith sitting
in here with Nick Ferguson on Broncos Country to Night
on KOA A fifty AM ninety four to one FM.
Welcome back to it Broncos Country.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Tonight, I'm your guest host Grant Smith, sitting in for
Benjamin Albright. He will join us in the next segment
and here with Nick Ferguson. Thanks to Rick Lewis for
joining us in the previous hour. If you missed any
of that, you can find it at Kowacolorado dot com
or on the free and totally redesigned iHeartRadio app that
you can now set as a preset, just like you
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do in your car. I've set my presets. My podcast,
of course, is one of them. Taking it for granted,
the podcast where Rick Lewis is a two time guest,
Nick Ferguson a one time guest, but that will be
shortly lived.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Hopefully.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm going to talk him into joining me for another
episode here before long.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Oh, you don't have to talk me into it. I mean,
I'm not bitemint all. But all you have to do
is tell me when.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And where I did it as a favor for Ben
just to get him on the on the on the
podcast once. I don't need him back up. Okay, this
is a positivity podcast. I don't need I don't need
wet blanket all bright On there. I need someone like
you who looks at the bright side of life, you know,
is grateful to wake up every morning.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yes, yeah, I don't need allbright On there again.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Hey, brother, whenever you want me on man, Hey, let's
do it again. It was fun.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
My most recent episode with Broncos sideline reporter Susie warden Man.
What an interesting life story she has. You can check
that out as well on the free and totally redesigned
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But with that, let's get to the NFL six pack.
It is time for the NFL six pat.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I'm going to tread the last year of insight and
insight information you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I know six the top six NFL headlines.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
What Following the Jets decision to move on from Aaron Rodgers,
which was recently made public, some Jets players, including star
Quinn Williams, have expressed their displeasure. Quinn Williams tweeted out,
I guess it's time for another rebuild Tuesday. Aaron Glenning
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acknowledge that the decision upsets some of the players.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
In the locker room.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Are you surprised that this decision to move on from
Rogers seems to be or is as controversial as it
seems to be.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
No, I'm not surprised because usually that happens. And when
you think about Aaron Rodgers and what he's done in
his time in the league, obviously, you know, guys have
a lot of respect for him, and on the outside
people may not know Aaron Rodgers in a way that
Quinton Williams knows Aaron Rodgers, and he probably figured that,
you know what, you change the GM, you change the
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head coach, you make some changes here and there on
offensive defense, they're still in the mix. And I get
what he's saying because it was the same way for
me when eventually the Broncos moved away from Jake Plumber.
I mean, there are a lot of guys who were
really upset because I mean they didn't really see Jake
Cutler as being.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
That guy that can lead. So I totally understand.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I guess this blow to this of quinnin Williams, so
I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
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the Taking It for Granted podcast one more shameless plug.
But no, no, I'm not surprised either, because think about
Quinn Williams a generational talent, like really really good, and
he's like, damn, we got to rebuild a game. We're
gonna get another rookie in here and suck for two
more years at least with Aaron Rodgers, well, you could
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acknowledge that his skill set has declined a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
He's still a high level quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And now someone like Quinn Williams is thinking, Wow, one
more rebuild, like maybe he's ready to get out of
New York as well.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
If you're a Jets fan, I think that has to
be the concern. You've got these three young core pieces,
Garrett Wilson, quinnn Williams, and Sauce Gardner, and you've had
all three, you know, since I don't know the last
three four weeks of the NFL season, expressed some sort
of displeasure with being with the Jets. So when Wilson
asked for a trade if Rogers was going to come back,
we have this from Williams, and then Sauce Gardner when
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they asked about trying to recruit te Higgins to New York,
he just went.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Nah, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Two already hot NFL trademarket. This is an especially active trademarket.
I feel heat it up even more yesterday as Titans
edge rusher Harold Landry and Patriots defensive lineman Devon Godshaw
as well sorry as Packers cornerback jay R Alexander were
all added to that trade rumor mill, Which of those
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players do you think is the biggest potential difference maker.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
For whoever might acquire him?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
And should the Broncos pursue any of those players?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, I saw with the last one first, No, I
don't believe the Broncos should pursue any of those guys, because,
once again, this is already young team. And I know
someone is probably screaming at me saying, well, you add
veteran talent, but there's some rooky talent in this upcoming
draft that will not only prove to be guys that
are foundational pieces would have saved you a lot of money.
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But I mean, Jaya Alexander is a guy in the
league that you say, well, he's covered pretty well what
he fit with the Broncos would like to do.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I mean, adding guys.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Like that would definitely help out, but you already have
Jakwan mcmiller do you already have mos you have PS two.
I mean for the Broncos is linebacker to safety is
getting better up front. So a lot of these players
right now that's on this list, I say no two.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Here's my answer for JR. Alexander No, no, No. Talented
as he is, he is a cancer, it seems like
in the locker room and to team building, and that's
the last thing we need here in Denver. In regards
to the other two, I'm fine with adding more pieces
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Harold Landry and Devon Godshaw. Fine, that's fine with me
if you want to take a look at those guys,
but Alexander definite.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
No from me, fully agree on Alexander being a headache thing.
I just it's not worth it, especially when you're already
so strong at that position. Godshaw, though, I wonder if
he could maybe be this year's John Franklin Myers, you
know that refresh that defensive line sub maybe with DJ
Jones leaving and he's a veteran who might be a
little cheaper than DJ Jones and you still maybe have
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an opening for a young guy to fill in there.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
The Kansas City Chiefs will be using the franchise tag
on starguard Tray Smith that came out today in an
effort to keep their line intact after we saw it
kind of get brutalized.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
By the Philadelphia Eagles there.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
The tag will cost twenty three point four million dollars,
bringing their total investment on the offensive line for this
upcoming season up to ninety five point three million dollars.
That's over a third of the total salary cap. Only
three NFL teams have more than sixty seven million dollars
invested in the line. Again, the Chiefs will be almost
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thirty million over that. Do you think Casey is over
investing in the offensive line considering their needs elsewhere on
the roster? Or is this the right move to stay
atop the AFC with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
This is a great move by Kansas City because everything
saws in the trenches. If you can't get after a quarterback,
and if you can't protect your quarterback, then you're.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Not going to win a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
And when you look at Patrick Mahomes, just three more
years that he has left, and when you looking at
it Terrey Smith, I mean he's only twenty five years young, right,
that's a young guy you are investing in.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And here's the crazy thing for me.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Every single year we always see teams up against the cap.
But Brett Beach he finds a way. He finds a
way to move money around when he don't have it
to kind of hold on to some of the players
who have helped them get to this point.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
So great move o, libahead.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, and did he watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Like, you got to invest in that offensive line if
you're Kansas City and Tray Smith one of the few
pieces that you want to keep around there because he
does protect Pactrick Mahomes and other big news coming.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Out of Kansas City today.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
By the way, this may open up the door for
Nick Bolden to the Broncos in a much more realistic
way that would be a huge help at linebacker.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
But other big news.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Coming out of Kansas City today from the Paton McAfee
show about Travis Kelcey's return to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
He said, definitely coming back.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Pat McAfee reached out to him and this was the
message back from Travis kelcey to Pat McAfee.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
The message was my dog exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation
point three. Source says says, I'm coming back for sure.
I'm gonna try and get to the best shape I've
been this offseason and get back to the mountaintop. Got
a real bad taste in my mouth with how I
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played in that last game and how I got the.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Guys ready for battle. I can't go out like that.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point and guess what.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
One more exclamation wow bit.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
We'll get into that more with Benjamin Olbright coming up
here in the next segment.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Yeah, you know, I'm not overly worried about that, But
to the point about a fording Tray Smith, they can
work with Travis Kelce free up almost twenty million dollars there.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That can make up for it. And I agree they
got to.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Do this to protect Mahomes, especially after what we saw
in the Super Bowl. But if I'm a Broncos fan,
I also I think I'm a little excited about it.
They're not getting the offensive line any better with this move.
They're only preventing it from getting worse, and they're kind
of hamstringing themselves in regard to addressing the other very
real needs on this ross or Today at the NFL
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Scouting Combine, Travis Hunter expressed that it's super important to
him that he has selected first overall in this year's
NFL draft.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
It got me thinking about what.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Nick, you were saying a week or so back about
Cam Newton's comments about being MVP and the importance of
winning that award. So I was wondering, is there any
similarity in your mind between being that number one overall
pick and a given draft class and winning that MVP award.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Well, for me, it's not when you get drafted. It
is where you get drafted.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
That's all important part about it.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Every kid wants to be the first off the war
and the first overall pick. But sometimes we've seen over
the past twenty plus years, guys are drafted by teams
that have bad roster, bad management, bad coaching, and that
guy's labeled as as a bus Whatever team picks up
a talent like Travis Hunter, they're going to get an
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extraordinary kid with extraordinary ability, and hopefully they're not too
stubborn where they're not allowing him to at least attempt
to play both sides.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, I think it's a cool feather in the cap
if you're to take a number one overall and he
also did address the desire to play both sides of
the ball and some of the discussions he's had in
some of the meetings at the Combine this week.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
You know, I'll get some meetings our receiver. It did
some meetings at dB, so still up in the air.
They say everybody, nobody has ever done it for real
the way I do it. But I tell him that
I'm just different. I'm a different person.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yeah, you know, we haven't seen a guy James Pearce's size,
how James Pierce ran. You know, new things happen. I
think you should definitely give Travis Hunter a try at it.
I also loved when he was asked about potentially playing
pun returner and he said, I already got two jobs.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Five little NFL rule change news to close this out here,
The NFL is looking to expand its replay Assist feature
for twenty twenty five, with more fouls being eligible for review. However,
NFL exec Troy Vincent said that there was no appetite
among the Competition committee to change the rule to allow
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replaces to throw a flag that was missed by live officials.
As it currently works, they can undo penalties that were called,
but in obvious face mask penalty, pass interference, stuff like
that cannot be added on to the play after the fact.
Do you think replay acests should be allowed to throw
those flags? And if so, what do you think the
reason is for this?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
The way if you can take a flag away, you
should be able to give it in my frame of mind,
in the way that I think because you've seen a
lot of games both one and laws off of four
calls on the field, and I know the referee is
a human, they make mistakes.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
But if you can correct things in New York and just.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Kind of stabilize things, why not bring balance to it.
Because the whole thing when you talk about the league
and you listen to Roger Goodell, it's the integrity of
the game.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Being able to protect the integrity of the game.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
And now with so many sportsbooks involved, to me, that
makes teams or not teams, but fans start to think
like are they making the right call or or they're
trying to favor one team or the other.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
So hopefully they do this.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I don't know what the hold up is, but there's
the right way to fix it, and then to make
sure every call is actually called.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, I completely agree. And what was it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It was the Vikings Lions game where Sam Darnold was
in the zone, clearly got his head almost ripped.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Off, and they missed the call. That's such an easy
one to just you know.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They have the instant replay officials that can chime in
right from right in the middle of the game.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It doesn't slow it down at all.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Why not just you know, buzz down to the referee
and say, hey, clearly face mask here, just throw the
flag and we'll move on with the game. I don't
think anyone's going to be upset with that.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
No, people will be upset that it's not happening. And
that's not even the only primetime game this season where
that exact circumstance with a face mass penalty happened.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Six last good of rules change news.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
For today, NFL EXAC Troy Vinson also said to the
media yesterday that it's time for the NFL to fix
its regular season overtime rules. The current ideas being thrown
around are either returning it to its former fifteen minute
format or mirroring the playoff format entirely, where both teams
are guaranteed of possession even if a touchdown is scored
(13:55):
on the first.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
How would you fix NFL overtime?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Well, I like the college rules because in college you
go to the two point conversion that forces teams to
come up with their best plays. And I remember watching
the game last year with my family when Georgia Tech
played Georgia and they would start they started running out
of plays to actually call that.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I'm watching television. I'm watching Georgia Tech line up in
the same.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Formation over and over again, trying to run the same
freaking play. But I like what college football is doing,
and maybe that is something that the NFL should do.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, he took the words out of my mouth. I
love the college football over time rules, but I think
the realistic way this goes is that they would just
change it for the same thing they do in the playoffs.
Guarantee that possession to both teams regardless of what happens
on the first drive. If the first team that has
the ball scores.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
A touchdown, you got to go down and score a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
As the first team kicks a field goal, you've got
to go down and at least kick a field goal,
or if you score a touchdown, you win the game.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's over.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
I think that will be what actually happens. I think
that's what they'll to really do too. But college has
such a good format that Georgia Tech Georgia game is
already insta classic to me, I'm gonna have I'm gonna
remember that forever. And I don't think the NFL provides
quite those same epic overtime moments at this point. I
think they should absolutely hop off the college.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, the rules are hindering those epic moments in the NFL,
and I think.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
They will change that.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
They're usually pretty good about that. That is your NFL
six pack, you know, Nick, I'm usually behind the board
where Seegers is sitting, and I love a good SoundBite.
So just two of my favorite drops that I've ever
come across. Since we were talking about Sam Darnold and
Travis Hunter as well, here's one from Mark Johnson, who
is the voice of the Buffs here on KOA, and
(15:42):
Paul Allen, the voice of the Vikings.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
He's an alien though he's a freak, he's a he's the.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Best player in college Football's too long.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I love Allen, But real quick, before we go to break,
why not give Travis Hunter an opportunity to play on
both sides of the ball, Like, make him prove that
he can't do it, don't just tell him that he's
not allowed.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Okay, this is because the NFL is very archaic in
some ways that they think we can't.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Get into all of them tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But in this particular one, some coaches are saying their ways.
They came up like, well, no, a gall only plays
one position, let him try see what happens.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
YEP, I agree.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
We got our wet blanket Live from Indianapolis. Coming up
next with Benjamin Albright on Broncos Country tonight KOA fifty
AM ninety four to one FM, talking about Travis Hunter
playing both sides of the ball in the last segment
on the KOA Common Spirit health text line from the
seven to one to nine. As far as Travis Hunter
(16:47):
and a NFL team that was going to draft him,
the injury factor of playing both sides of the ball
has to come into play.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Well, yeah, it definitely does. But keep this in mind too.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I know if stories were guys have fallen down the stairs,
tripping over their dog, or slipped on a bar soap.
So we can't wrap ourselves or players in bubble wrap,
But you got to go out there and allow them
to play with. In the case of Travis Hunter, you
don't have to give him forty plays a game. I mean,
he just could be a package where he's just it's.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Eight plays, that's it.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, let's go out to the KOA Common Spirit Health
Hotline and bring on Benjamin al Brides he's usually sitting
in this chair and get his thoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Ben How are you tonight, man?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
What do you think about Travis Hunter playing both sides
of the ball in the NFL?
Speaker 9 (17:35):
Well, look, if Travis wants to.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Put in the kind of work that I put in today,
do it playing both sides between BCT and kawait. He's
welcome to follow my lead and just putting in that
kind of hard work day in and day out. And no,
I'm kidding.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Look, I guess it with Ryan earlier and that first
of all, in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Season seventeen games, you're going to get nearly double the
snaps you know that you do in college and then
and the other part of issues, like the NFL is
is different. You know, at the at the collegiate level,
you got a playbook and you can you're gonna have
twenty to forty plays, right you get to the NFL,
you might have a six hundred page playbook. You've got
to sit in offensive meetings and defensive meetings, and I
(18:14):
don't know how you do both at the same time.
I think Tavis is incredibly talented, but I think he's
a full time corner who has a sub package of
you know, five, six, ten plays at a receiver and
you just try to see if you can handle that.
If you can handle that, you go with it. If
you can't handle that, and then I think you, you know,
you kind of dial it back a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, And you know, speaking of extremely talented people, speaking
with Benjamin Albright as he's been covering the combine from
Indianapolis all week and we just got we're losing you.
You're back in town tomorrow. You're on KOA Sports.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So with Rick Lewis.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know, we lost the O g Ryan Edwards to
KOA Sports the.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Afternoon Drive a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
We just got to quit putting on such a great
program every night and getting you guys bumped up to
drive time.
Speaker 9 (18:59):
Well, you know that's part of it.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
It could just be that, you know, Ryan just he
just partied too hard. He gets the scene a little
too too hard. Anyway, Now he's really struggling right now.
He was, he was toughing it out through through the
show today. Good good for him. He's one of the
hardest working dudes. And you know, I'm happy to fill
in for him tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I blame it on the vegan diet.
Speaker 9 (19:23):
Yeah, I blame on the vegan diet as well.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
All right, So obviously just stick into the AFC West.
It seems as though the conversation about Matthew Stafford possibly
linking up with the Raiders, that seem as though it's
picking up steam.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
What are you hearing about that?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Well, you know, from what I understand, initially the Rams
were not really trying to let Stafford get away.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
It was supposed to be, all right.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
We'll let matt check the market, we'll go come back
with a number, we'll find something to work.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
But you know the problem is you let a guy
outside the door to do that, and all.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Of a sudden you got people sweet talking him and
saying you can be the face of our franchise. We're
willing to pay you that number, and so that's what
you have. The Raiders thing is picking up steam, and
it's not a done deal yet, but it is severely
trending in that direction. And you know, I don't I
don't know if the Rams are gonna be able to
come back eleventh hour and rescue this thing, because it
looks like the Raiders have got kind of a financial parameter,
(20:18):
you know, thing in place.
Speaker 9 (20:19):
For Matt Stafford. And you know, it's just a question
now agreeing to compensation for a trade which is probably
somewhere around two second rounders, and getting the thing done.
And I tell you, the Raiders they've got a plan.
You know, Tom Brady's out there, he's working this thing.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
He's got a play. He wants to get Matt Stafford
in there, draft Aston Janny at six, and all of
a sudden, your offense starts to look wildly different than
it did last year.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And you said earlier today, I think I heard this
correctly on KOA Sports, that this is not infringing on
the tampering in the NFL. Correct And that led to
the kerfuffle between Jordan Schultz and Ian Rappaport at Starbucks yesterday.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah, this is not considered tampering by the league because
the Rams had given permission for Stafford to go out
and explore this stuff, so you know, and the Rams,
for their part, are trying to say, well, we gave
permission for his agent to talk to teams, not for
him to be up at the Yellowstone Club in Montana,
you know, skiing it up with Tom Brady. But you know,
it is what it is, and so you know, I
(21:21):
at the end of the day, you know, you let
somebody outside the doors and you really can't control what.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
Happens as far as that kind of stuff goes.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
So the Rams have nobody blame for themselves.
Speaker 9 (21:30):
And they really the Rams tick it mad.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I mean, you know, what was this two years ago
where you know, Matt Stafford's.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Down in Cabo just happens to have the.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Cavana next to Sean McVay.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
It's weird how that guy just happens to have the
spots next.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
To the teams that want him.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
That is something that is very odd.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
But there's another thing that's happening or happens today where
you are that is becoming, I guess a mainstay thing.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
But it's still odd.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Nonetheless, watching big guys run fast time. I mean, what's happening, man,
because we're seeing guys well like two sixty two seventy
like running some four four of what's happening in the game.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
Today, Man, this is one of the I was talking to.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Somebody today and I was like, this is becoming a
league where you can't talk smacked offensive lineman anymore because
they're running four sixes.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You know.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
It's one of those things man that Yeah, guys, I
guess they're getting faster and faster.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
We saw a couple of.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
Linebackers out there running four four four fives.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
That is just ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Landon Jackson and Shimore Stewart out there jumping over forty
inches in the vertical.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Yeah, at two sixty plus.
Speaker 9 (22:35):
I mean, there's only the four guys in the league
history that have done that. That's two guys in this draft.
And then a guy named Mario Williams and a guy
named Miles Garrett, and I'm pretty sure you heard both
of them.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Benjamin Albright, our guest live from Indianapolis covering the NFL Combine,
help you back on KOA Sports tomorrow, Ben, You guys
have had some great interviews out there, you and Ryan Edwards.
Of course you had the exclusive one on one with
GM George Payton. You can find that at Koacolorado dot com.
You also talked with Jordan Reid, Emery Hunt, and Charles
McDonald today. What's been the most interesting tidbit of information
(23:09):
you've gotten out there at the combine that you can
share with us?
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Well, for those guys, I would say Emory gave a
great anecdote about a tight end D three tight end
and if you want to go listen to that and
if you get gat a great anecdote about that, and
I would suggest everybody go check that out. In terms
of other things that are going on, I mean we've
picked up on some stuff, you know, the Stafford story
we've been kind of out in front of with it
trending toward him going to the Raiders. And I'll say this,
if he goes to the Raiders, the Rams replacement option
(23:36):
is is Aaron Rodgers. That's their primary, their own Rogers
and Adams in So something to keep your eye on there.
And then the big news today is that the Giants
sort of realizing that they're out on the Stafford deal
and they're trying to put together a package to trade
up to number one to put themselves in the driver's
seat for a quarterback. So you know things, the wheels
get moving when you get to the combine, and that's
sort of the big news of the day. Well also, I.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Mean here Denver, a lot of news is about the
tight end position. What direction would the Broncos go? So
I'll ask you because some of these tight ends have
either tight ends I mean, I guess relationship with the
organization or ties to a particular player who might play quarterback.
So Terrence Ferguson playing at Oregon and you got gunn
at Helm, who is I mean from Denver.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I mean he got ties to Dave Logan.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
If you were to look at these guys, which guy
would you say the Broncos were to select will probably
end up being a better fix for bo Nicks?
Speaker 9 (24:34):
Well, I mean obviously Ferguson's played with him, but I
would still say, you know, despite the namesake for you there, Nick,
I would say gunner Helm is probably a little bit
of a better fit. You know, Helm's probably probably a
fourth round type guy, maybe a fifth round type guy.
Ferguson maybe a maybe a fifth or sixth round type guy.
And so you can get these guys on day three.
You don't have to mortgage the farm.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
You can take care of some other k needs.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
Let them fall in your lap.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
And I think that'd be every pretty cool. One thing
I will say is that, I mean, look look at
who the Broncos have interviewed. They're gonna draft a running
back and they're gonna draft the tight end. The question
is where they do those two things. And you know
in a draft it's it's pretty deep at those two positions.
You might be able to get them a little bit
later than you think.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Great information has always been enjoy her last night in Indianapolis,
and we'll see you back here.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
In Denver tomorrow. Looking forward to it. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's Benjamin Albright our koa insider host of Broncos Country
tonight and now on Afternoon Drive all week.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Moving on moving up to the big time.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Nick, Yeah, but he's still Benjamin alb Bright. He's always
gonna do something that kind of brings him down.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
It will always work his way.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Back then, you were talking about Terrence Ferguson and Gunner Helm,
a couple of the tight end prospects in this draft,
and they both caught up well. They were at the
at the podium but Ryan asked Ryan Edwards asked him
a couple of great questions. This is Terrence ferguson the
tight End out of Oregon, talking about his relationship with
Broncos quarterback Bo Nicks.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I would be really cool.
Speaker 10 (26:01):
You know, was one of my best friends and I
still keep up with him during today. So being able
to be with the guy that you've played with me
for and a great guy like that.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
It'd be amazing. He's talking about the prospect of me.
I've just talked to him as a friend, you know,
and just kept up with them.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So do you think it's a big deal those relationships.
You know, we saw Troy Franklin get drafted by the
Broncos last year mostly because of, in my mind, his
relationship with Bo Nicks. You've got both step brother Tez
coming out this year. Could be another guy that they
add to the roster.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I'm excited to see what he runs at the combine,
but only one hundred and fifty five pounds soaking wet,
so that'll be interesting. But do you think these relationships
should be something that impacts how the Broncos draft?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yeah, it is, because when you think about the game itself,
it is built and shape the round relationships. A quarterback
has to be in tune with his offensive line, and
he has to be in tune with those killed players.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
They have to trust you actually.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Known as though they're lurking defenders like Steve Atwater and
myself looking for that big hit. They want to know
that you can put the ball into plays that kind
of keeps their career on the upward swing, opposed to putting.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
The ball behind them or throwing it late.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
In a lot of defense, the linebacker and safety to
pretty much take.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Their heads off. So for me, that's a huge thing.
And you know, Grant, a lot of teams don't do that.
They don't talk to some of.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Their players about okay, well you know this guy, tell
me about him, or say, okay, well maybe we should
bring this guy in because he played with him at
this particular college.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
I mean, you take things in.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Consideration if your guy played with him in high school.
But college is what you look for because it's about
expanding the chemistry.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Can we think as one And I always like to
do this.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I like to take like football things and things with
sports and relate them bring them back to relationships. You
and your partner have to be on the same page.
If you're not on one accord, it's not going to work.
And like here's another same for my mom. The right
hand has to know what the left hand is thinking.
And it's true like if your bow knicks. You look
(28:14):
out there and you say, okay, well, Terrence Ferguson, I
played with him maybe at Oregon, right, and you may
look at him and say the route calls for him
to run a flat route. But you look out there
you say, well, the linebacker is kind of cheating a
little inside, so you just kind of give him a
look and he goes, okay, well, now I'm gonna change
my route up. Instead of being a flat route, I'm
going vertical.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Those are the types of relationships you need to have
because in my time playing here, I played with some
extraordinary players, and I played with the player man arguably
the best player I've ever had an opportunity to play with,
an Avid champ Bailey. When you play with the guy
long enough, it gets to a point where I don't
even have.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
To say anything to him, just give him the side eye.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
We look at the formation, we already know what the
defense is called. Well, and I look at him, and
based on the look he's given.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
To me, I already know what I need to do.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
We're going to stick with the coverage or we're gonna
change something up. And that's what you need to have
as a quarterback. So if it's Tamas Johnson, if it's
Gunner Hill, more importantly is Tamas Ferguson. The idea is
looking at your players at different positions and asking yourself,
how do we get more production out of that player?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, and we saw it for years with Aaron Rodgers
and Davante Adam. Speaking of Gunner Helm, I'm glad you
brought him back up. I promise this sound earlier. This
is him talking with Ryan Edwards when he was at
the podium earlier today, talking about his relationship with Dave
Logan and what it would mean to him being a
hometown kid getting drafted by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 10 (29:43):
Yeah, I mean growing up as a Colorado kid. Obviously
I said this before. I was you know why you
took that trip down on twenty five or up by
twenty five down to you know, it was a bestco
the sports Thorty. So it's had a couple of names,
but it was kind of you know, you know.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
It always lingers in the back of my mind. That
was the dream back of it day. You know, it's
obviously shifted a little.
Speaker 10 (30:02):
Bit just to get to the National Football League, playing
the National Football League, drive to the National Football League.
But you know, I think it goes pretty unnoticed that
coach Logan's way that he develops players and he knows
what's best for guys. You know, he was asking me
what my weight was when I was a freshman, so
I think he always kind of had a plan that
I was going to have my hand in the dirt.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
At some point.
Speaker 10 (30:22):
You know, I made the switch only a few weeks
before my rookie Sea, before my junior year of high school,
put my hand in the dirt for the first time.
The guy who was playing tight end at the time
was George Fitzpatrick. He was an All American tackle. They
moved him one gap in, moved me one gap in,
put my hand in the dirt, and we became the
two most highly recruited kids in the history of Cherry Creek.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
So Coach Logan, Coach Betty, they know what they're doing.
Speaker 10 (30:44):
And you know, one piece of advice I would give
to anyone looking to transfer into a school in Colorado,
Cherry Creeks your best bet.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
What was like though, meeting with the Broncos and who'd
you talk to me? It was a dream come true.
Speaker 10 (30:55):
Obviously I talked to coach Sean Payton, coaching George Payton,
So a lot of guys like that, you know, would
never envision myself being being that close and talking to
them just about football. But you know, it goes back to,
you know, just dream big, because if you work at it,
if you want to achieve it, you know, if you're
bold enough to say it, and then you're bold enough
(31:17):
to do it. So from a young age I told
people that I wanted to play in the National Football League.
Obviously it's coming to Fruition this week. This is the
first step to get in there in the combine. So
just doing my best, really enjoying every.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Second of it.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
What a great answer from Gunner helm Man, and how
cool for him if he does get get picked up
by the Broncos in the draft. But I think that
speaks to the value of great coaching, whether it be
in life or in sports. Someone seeing something in you
that's going to help you progress to the next version
of you like Gunner Helm getting moved from wide receiver
to tight end.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Coach Dave Logan at Terry Creek.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
This is why I've always said, if you ever look
at the word coach in the Western dictionary and I
don't have one on me right now, the first word
to define the coach should we teach, because you're teaching
that particular player the extras and o's of the game.
But the most important thing that you can ever give
back to a player.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Is teach them how to be a man. Yeah, that
part is so important.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
But really quickly on the familiarity part of it and
why it's so vital. Look at your own Cincinnati Bengals.
They take Joe Burrow and then what else did they.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Do Chase and why Yeah, because of that relationship.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Because of that relationship and keeping those guys together, it
is so important. Just think about, like a musical band,
how upset you were when that musical band broke up.
That's what it's like for certain fans watching an ensemble
of players on either side of the ball break up.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
It's like you broke up the band.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, and we've getten We're getting the band broke up
over and over again.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Here on Broncos Country, right, But it.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Gives me the opportunity to sit in with someone like you,
Nick Ferguson, and I'm glad we are building the relationship
that we're building.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I always have a blast chat with you on this show.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Man. Well we're not I'll break up like the Beatles,
because we're going to see each other every single day. Unfortunately,
this is our I guess the last run of the week,
but there's going to be more opportunities for us to
do the show together.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, we'll get you back on the podcast, Stacey from Utah.
Sorry we didn't get to your text. I will save
that one. I'll make sure Nick and Bree answer it tomorrow.
On Broncos Country Tonight, we got buff Prime Time coming
up next. I've been your guest host Grant Smith sitting
in here with Nick Ferguson on Broncos Country to Night
on KOA A fifty AM ninety four to one FM.
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