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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five six, six nine zero is the text line. Tax
Seeker's back there producing chock full of Colorado gear. There
something special three or three day or something.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, I'll say that three or three some day definitely
not gene, just not paying throwing on whatever.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
You could not. I'm familiar with this concept. It's like
those colors. Those colors are in the same ballpark. Yeah. Oh,
five six, six nine zeros of text. So I want
to hear what you guys want to talk about tonight.
Got quite a bit to get to upon our return
here from the Combine in Indianapolis. Latest news and notes, rumors,
things of that nature. Plenty to get to, as far

(00:41):
as that kind of stuff goes. Good to be back, though,
Looking like the weather's going to kick up here a
little bit though, looks like it anyway.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I was enjoying not having to brush my car off
after doing Broncos Country tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
But I think I think those days are over. I
think we're I think we're back to that tonight. It
looks it looks kind of scary out there a little bit.
I was windy on the drive in my car. I
was gonna stop like my car moved. That was what
I knew the wind was like, okay, this is a problem. Yeah,
I've been in here since noon. I came in when
it was all sunny and bright and everything. So that's
that's disconcerting news.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, so when we go to Indy, everything the way
the convention set are set up, you can you can
basically walk everywhere. You can sort of do it indoors
through this whole like maze of connecting skybridges that they
have and all that kind of stuff, so you kind
of you kind of get your steps in when you're
out there. And today I was gonna go get my

(01:31):
steps in. It's a nice and sunning all kind of stuff.
Never got around to it. And then turn around this evening,
I'm like, I guess, I'm uh, I guess I'm not
gonna be doing that for a few days. So no
nightwalk weather, Yeah, not so much, Not so much. It
was an interesting time out there in Indianapolis. A lot
of a lot of good information out there. One of
the things that we've talked about extensively on this show

(01:53):
is how much the coaching staff I think is invested
in the receivers that they already have, and how which
they believe in that and I tend to come away
from indianapolish more confidence in that than ever. I do
believe that they'll, you know, they may add a free agent,

(02:15):
but I don't believe it's going to be anybody that's
any kind of top tier, any of that kind of stuff.
All these rumors that were out there about T Higgins
and Chris Godwin, Garrett Wilson, trades and all that kind
of Cooper Copple, that's absolute, absolute nonsense. Deebo Samer, Broncos
forever ething in on Deebo Samuel. I's not some reports

(02:36):
out there like it's funny to me because the Broncos
call about everything. They want to know the price tag
on everything, whether they seriously pursue it, and then people
use that as leverage. Right. There was some report at
the de Broncos that were in on Deebo Samuel. They
were not in any way in on Deebo Samuel. Did
they call and find out what the price tag was? Yeah,
because they call and find the price tag out about everything,

(02:56):
but they were not. There was no trade discussion, no offer,
no follow they you know, what what do you what
do you look again out of them. And that's that,
and that's what you want your GM to do.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Call about everything, you know, go down all the different
avenues at your disposal.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Well, right, and that's that's what responsible general managers do.
You should know the price tag on everything so that
in some you know, if you have an emergency or
you have to pivot to something or whatever else, you
already know what the cost of the alternative is. That's
just being a good steward.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
You don't want to sit here and go, oh, oh,
Divo went for a fifth Oh I would have.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Put it in on that. Yeah, No, it's you know,
we could have had those forty receiving yards a game
for a fifth round. And you can tell where I
came down on that. But uh, it's you know, the
coaching staff from you know, what I understand is a
lot more bullish on these receivers than the fan base

(03:52):
seems to be. Now. I know that they know they
need to improve the tight end room, they need to
improve a running back room, but they're pretty satisfied with
the offensive line and the receivers. And we think we
found the quarterback. I mean, well, you know, obviously we'll
run it back this year and make sure, but we

(04:12):
we're pretty sure we found the quarterback. We're at the
stage of saying pretty sure. We're not there. We're not
one hundred percent yet, but we're in the ninety percents right.
So there are people out there that are talking about
the weapons and all this kind of stuff, and I'm like, man,
I think they feel better about this receiving course, if
you go back when Sean Payton was hired, I kind

(04:32):
of warned you about this. They don't pay the wide
receiver room. That's just not a Sean Payton thing. He'll
either pay, he'll pay one receiver, or they'll they'll pay
like a mid level guy. But they don't. They don't
pay the wide receivers. And it's interesting to me because
I've had people go back and forth with me about this, Well,

(04:54):
you know, late round pick, that's not proven. He's never
done that. Actually he did that right off the bat.
Marcus Colston was a seventh rounder who started as a rookie.
And I'm saying that in reference to the possibility of
Devon Vele being this starting ACX next year. If Courtland
Sudden is not a Denver Bronco, which remains a possibility.

(05:14):
I think the Broncos have a number. I think Courtland
has a number, and I think those numbers are not
particularly close at the moment. Doesn't mean they won't get there,
but I would suggest that those numbers are not We're
not close to where they need to be. Sean Payton
doesn't really pay wide receivers. Like I said, he'll pay one.

(05:36):
And I try to warn everybody about this when when
he got here, because I was like, he's going to
dismantle this receiving room and bring in his own guys
for better or worse and go from there, and everybody
argue with me about it. Well, now he's doing it,
and you know, now they're arguing that, you know, they
need to go out and draft other guys or go
out and sign other guys. I'm like, he just he
just doesn't do that. And when you look at the
target distribution in a Sean Payton offense, what happened last

(05:58):
year is almost in an there was a pretty even
distribution of targets, but it's still sort of fell in
line with what it is that he does. The X
receiver gets spammed a lot of targets. The Z receiver
will get you know, a smattering of them on you know,
deep shot type plays, and we sort of saw a

(06:20):
platoon of Franklin or Mims, you know, kind of filling
that role. And then the slot guy will get you know,
kind of the leftover. So the target share goes quarterback,
whoever the running back is, and then tight end. That's
where the target share goes in this offense. That's the one,
two three. The other guys kind of get some extra stuff,
but that's really where the target share goes. X receiver,

(06:43):
tight end, running back and the tight end and then
everybody else's kind of kind of downtrace. And that's not
you know, it's a bad thing or good thing or whatever.
It's just to function in this office way. It's the
way that this offense works. That's so I don't understand
the idea behind everybody wanted to go out and pay

(07:05):
top of the market receiver money, which the Bengals franchise
tagged Higgins today, so he's never on the market anyway,
but Higgins who was wantting close to forty million dollars
a year as a receiver, and the fan basing, oh
we gotta go do that. Oh we got to pay
thirty million for Chris Godwin or trade assets for you know,

(07:28):
the shell of Cooper Cup that's left or Debo, And
I'm like, you guys are just you're glomming onto names.
Now at this point, people Sayingel's like a forty receiving yard,
a game guy whose whose value is bolstered by the
fact that he can play running back, even though he
doesn't really want to do that, and he's made it

(07:50):
clear he doesn't want to do that. He wants to
be a receiver and paid like a receiver. So you're
sending are you trading draft picks, trading away assets from
a team that's shown that it's very, very capable of drafting. Well,
that's just not the way Sean Payton does things. He
pays the offensive line, he pays the defensive line. I'll

(08:12):
pay corners. They'll pay one running back at a time,
usually a mid level number. But the money, you know,
for Sean Payton, the money isn't isn't usually distributed that way.
It's just not the way that he constructs a roster
and it's not the way he runs an offense. So

(08:35):
with that said, I mean, I don't have the most
faith in the world in Troy Franklin loved what Mims
did last year, especially as the season wore on and
they recognized they had him on the roster. I'm bullish,
Jon Devon Vailey. I'm very Bullisheon Vale. I saw him
in trading Kim. I know you saw him trading give Zach.

(08:56):
I'm Bullishjon Valley. In fact, Veile probably would have had
a much larger role over the year if he hadn't
cracked his ribs early in the season and then tried
to work his way back from that.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, he was still having his you know, rookie growth development,
catching up to the speed of the game moments in
week five six whenever that was.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, And so he's I mean, you know, you're talking
about a guy who I thought was incredibly reliable outside
of maybe didn't he I think you dropped one in
the Buffalo game, in the playoff game, but that was
a bad game for the receiving corp in general. But
other than that, highly reliable wide receiver who fits in
kind of perfectly with what they wanted the you know,

(09:32):
at the extra receiver. So I'm not I'm not as
concerned about that. Was that was part of the discussion
that was out there. Our own Ryan Edwards was chumming
it up with Sean Payton there at the Nuggets game
there in Indy. I think they both went to Hooters
afterwards and split a play of wings. Try to keep
him from going out of business.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
You know, not all of us can go to the
luxury pacers that sit in the box, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
With Sean Payton, Ryan was just like, Sean, you can
sit over here to my left, and just you know, showed,
you know, telling him where he could sit. There were
several other interesting things that came out of Indie while
I was out there. The Matt Stafford deal. You know, I,

(10:24):
as I tweeted out multiple times, I always kind of
thought the Rams would would get him back to the
table and top them off. But as that thing wore on,
it started to feel like it was it was shifting
towards the Raiders, and the Raiders, you know, had a
bigger offer on the table. But Stafford had kind of
told the Rams say, here's my number, this is the number,
and the Rams were like, well, we don't really want

(10:45):
to do that. Let's let him test the market here,
see that he's not worth that and come back. Well
that blew up in their face because the Giants and
the Raiders were both willing to pay him much more.
And the Raiders and Tom Brady and that wholekerfuffle that
led to the Insider Gate and the Starbucks and all
that stuff. The Raiders were convincing in their pitch, and

(11:08):
it got to the point where Matt Stafford came back
to the Rams and said, hey, look here, I told
you what my number was. Here's the number the Raiders
are offering me more. Either you guys are gonna make
this work, or I'm going to make that work. And
so the Rams got their act together, got the Stafford
thing done, you know, and it was trending the other
direction heavily for a minute there. But that leads the

(11:29):
next domino, which is Aaron Rodgers and the New York Giants,
who understand that they are in, how to put this delicately,
a very desperate situation, Brian Dable, Joe Shane, guys that
are coaching and GMing for their jobs. They understand they've

(11:52):
got to solve the quarterback position. And I understand they've
got to solve it right now. And so on the
one hand, and that tells you, hey, look you got
to get somebody who can play. Now, maybe that's an
Aaron Rodgers, right, Rodgers didn't play horribly in the second
half of that season. It wasn't great, but it wouldn't
you know, it wasn't horrible. And I think the Giants

(12:16):
want to take multiple swings here. I think the Giants
are in pursuit of Aaron Rodgers very heavily. And I
still believe. And this was something I started cryptically, I guess,
or vaguely tweeted about, even though I didn't think it
was that cryptic of Vegas. Just try to have some
fun with it the other day, and that is that
there could be a giant trade Titanic, if you will,

(12:39):
you know, coming up, and that would be the Giants
moving from three to one to put themselves in the
driver's seat for a quarterback. And I you know, I
know the Giants like Shador. They certainly came out here
a bunch, but I think moving to one would be
for cam Ward. Do you think it'd be defined when
they make that move or do you think think so?
I think they make the move get themselves a position

(13:00):
to work from there. Right now, the question is is
getting Tennessee on the right price point and making it
happen because Tennessee wants adult Carter. They made the Titans
and they've made no secret of that for weeks that
they want Addall Carter. And it was funny because when
the quote came out and I can't remember who poo
put it out there, but the generational we're not gonna
pass on, you know, Bergonzi, We're gonna pass on generations
tell and people thought they were talking about Travis Hunter

(13:21):
and they weren't. They were talking about Adall Carter. I
don't think I think the Titans are kind of trying
to eyeball free agency a little bit. As the quarterback situation.
They know they can't run it back with Will Levis,
but there are there are other ideas or other options there.
Could they come away with the Kirk Cousins. Could they
come away with the Derek Carr you know? Do we
said a lot of Jameis Winston, who'll just you know,

(13:42):
we'll just gut it, which actually is kind of a
fit for what Brian Callahan wants to do. Could they
be in the market for Sam Darnold. You have to
beat out the Raiders and smothers for that but I
think that. You know, the interesting thing for me is
I don't think the Giants, if and when they Cian
airon Rodgers, I don't think they're done. I do believe

(14:05):
they'll trade to one and sit there and figure it out.
And I do believe they leave for cam Ward. But
I don't think you're trading. I think you're trading to
put yourself in the driver's seat. Sorry, how expensive do
you think it is to get into that driver's seat?
I mean, you know, you could go back and look
at what the Bearers paid to move from three to
two from Mitch Trubisky and that's probably your starting point.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Cheaper this year, maybe because of the weaker quarterback class
in just class.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I mean that quarterback class was seen as weak. Trubisky
was drafted number two, but you know Mahomes was taken
tenth and was It's funny because back then nobody liked
I was getting clowned for loving Mahomes. Deshaun Watson was
in that class. That was the one the other people
had had the better quarterback. But you know there were
people that are all over Trubisky and Watson and Mahomes

(14:50):
and it was considered a very very down class, which
in retrospect, I mean, I don't have to massage it
that hard to say. There was only one quarterback in there,
sac Quickick. He was about to dump hit the dump
button there. I was seen if I had rack as Booze.
But I'm just saying like this, I don't think it's

(15:11):
I think that's just your starting point, the move from
three to two for Chicago. That's that's where your starting
point is, and you kind of go from there. I
believe though, that the Giants understand, they got the memo,
they understand the assignment. We got to get quarterback resolved
and that's that, or else we're not going to be here.
And I think that that. I think that that sort

(15:33):
of gives them carte blanche to be able to overpay
to do it, because on the one hand, if you
do overpay it it doesn't work out, well, you're not
going to be there to have to clean up the
mess anyway. And if it works out, who cares it
works out, We'll figure it out.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
With that in mind, do you think Marow would pump
the brake some on that, like let's not trade three
first round picks or whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know, that's not gonna be how much it cost.
But I mean, I don't think so. I think I
think they understand the assignment and that's that. And if
if you know, if it doesn't work out with Rogers
and let's just call it Rodgers and Camboard, if it
doesn't work out with that, over the course of this year,
the next coach will be here with the thought that
he's got to make cam Hoard work. And there are
few enough head coaching jobs that someone will try their

(16:18):
hand at it.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
But if you're the Giants, isn't that also perpetuating the
problem to an extent. Maybe you're forcing yourself into this
position where you're gonna draft cam Ward and then if
cam Ward is not good, you're maybe forcing a different
head coach to work with him.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Well, I think, I mean, I think you sort of
give the next coach the Sean Payton, you know, Yeah,
you got to try to make this work for a year.
If it doesn't work, then we'll figure it out. Quote
quote try yeah, so yeah. Emphasis on the air quotes
start five six, six nine zeros. A text line prophet says,
put the blanket back in the dryer and believe I've

(16:55):
been pretty I've a pretty dry blanket these days. Had
a funny story break here. Talked a little bit about
insider gate. We'll talk about the Broncos connection to that,
and we come back Kawa. It's been all right here
with you. Back from the combine in Indianapolis. Ex seekers

(17:17):
back there producing five six six nine zero is the
text line. A munch of good questions coming in there.
I'll get some of those here in a minute. Talked
a little bit about, uh, the Broncos connection to insider
gate those of you wondering what that is. Insider Gate
was competing narratives that went out over Twitter between Jordan

(17:44):
Schultz and Ian Rappaport about the Matt Stafford situation with
the Raiders, with Stafford going to Yellowstone Club up there
in Montana, whether or not that was a Tom Brady
led thing where they both just coincidentally happened to meet
at the same vacation spot, similar to the way Matt

(18:08):
Stafford and Sean McVay totally coincidentally happened to go to
Cobbo at the same time right before he sat with Rams. Anyway,
there was there were back and forth equivaling on the
details of that and then which led to a showdown
and in person showdown at the Starbucks and the JW.

(18:30):
Marriott Keep your Head on a swivel, where Jordan Schultz
approached Ian Rappaport, who was talking to a prominent agent,
butted in and said we need to talk. Ian looked
at Jordan and said, no, we don't, and Jordan said

(18:50):
he proceeded to inject himself sort of physically into the
situation and say, yes we do, or there's going to
be a problem. Ian Rapport replied that there was no problem,
and then Jordan proceeded to verbally accost him, getting very
loud about how there would be a problem and jabbing
his finger. Ian, who is an employee of the NFL,

(19:13):
is required to report incidents like that, any physical altercation
or anything like that, the threat of violence, is required
to report that to the league. There are many people
that were saying that Ian was a snitch, and like
the dude's required to It's part of his job, Like
you know, you're a part of the NFL, Like it
doesn't matter if you're a general manager, if you're a reporter,

(19:34):
if you're whatever, you're required to report it. And it's
going to get out.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
We've seen, you know, just all the different media perspectives
we've gotten from this event. It was going to get
out better for him to tell his bosses. Then his
bosses be asking him why he didn't fulfill his contract exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
So you know, as far as that kind of stuff goes,
the reality is is that you know, they were quibbling
over the details of that report of Matt Stafford potentially
going to the Raiders. Now what's the Broncos connection to that?
Rumor has it that allegedly, I repeat, allegedly the agent

(20:15):
for Tom Brady, so is Don Yee also happens to
be the agent for one Sean Payton. That's not a rumor,
that's fact. Rumor has it that Jordan Schultz's source on
all this may have been Sean Payton attempting to get

(20:43):
the Raiders popped for tampering by creating a situation in
which an other team's minority owner was hosting a player
under contract with a different team, which is part of
the reason that the details were getting quippled about in
the first place. Didn't the Dolphins just lose a first
round pick for something similar? I mean, with Sean Payton

(21:04):
and Tom Brady that's right. It was with Sean Payton,
Tom Brady. That's a funny full circle. I didn't even
piece together.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
But then Sean Payton knows better than anyone I guess
about the cost that can be associated with these meetings.
So why not put your thumb on the scale and
try to make your fan base his most hated division
rival worse for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I have to stress that this is all air quotes,
allegedly right in this hypothetical, But the minute that I
was tipped off to who the tip off may have
been and the reasons behind it, many of you know
I have been I think fairly but still critical with
Sean Payton. I had my that's my quarterback except that's

(21:47):
my head coach moment right there, because I live for
the petty Oh, I live for it. I love it.
I could not if that is, if that's still is true,
I cannot tell you how filled with mirth it makes me.

(22:09):
Nobody reignites a feud like shut babe. Now do you
think the raps sheet report.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Effectively extinguished this or is there still enough there that
the NFL might look into tampering.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
The NFL is not going to look into it for tampering.
And I'm gonna tell you that because the Rams had
given now the Rams, for their part, thought they had
given Stafford's agents limited ability to go out and solicit
trade stuff. Not for Matt himself to go have contact
with other teams, but because they had said or phrased

(22:44):
it in a way like you're free to go explore
the market, they left it opened enough that it was permission.
And thus there is no actual tampering here. So there's
not gonna be tampering. But the fact that if if
if that story were true, if on Peyton were indeed
the instigator behind getting that out there into the public

(23:05):
eye and getting it looked at, I oh my goodness,
that would have been a seminal moment, or would be
a seminal moment for me and the Sean Payton tenure
as a never Broncos head coach. I mean, it'd be tremendous.
I think the fans would get behind it. So we said,

(23:27):
I think everybody in Denver, whatever you think of Sean Payton,
respect goes up just a little bit, and it could
heat up that rival That's what I mean, no rivalry,
you like, you know, Yeah, Ravens, not Raven's Raiders fans
I know would be furious about that. So allegedly we're

(23:48):
gonna leave it. Allegedly that's where that may have come from. Well,
we'll sort of keep our eye on that. Get a
chance to ask you on Peyton about that at some point,
see if we can get some more some more info
on that. It's not like Sean Payton's not above trying
to douce trick people into doing stuff. We have JJ

(24:09):
McCarthy gave from last year. Very true. And were the
Raiders involved in that, No, it's just the Vikings the Vikings,
but it was anybody who was. The Raiders were theoretically
a team they thought might be after a quarterback and
so but yeah, it's not like Sean Payton hasn't been
involved in a Machaveelian scheme before. Also true, we had

(24:33):
we had that weird Gronkowski thing while we were out there. Yeah,
I for a second, I was wondering if that was
the Insider Gate. No, that was that was something that
was here locally. And I'll say this, that story's ninety
nine percent false. There's a one percent, tiny little grain
of truth in that story. And he wasn't. Gronk wasn't
working out in Vail. That's not a thing. He was

(24:54):
out there skiing or whatever. But he as far as
a he off the cough made a comment to a
local business owner about that, and that business owner I
think took it seriously. Gronk had not informed anyone and
his inner circle, so the other you know, his podcast

(25:15):
production people, his marketing team, any that kind of stuff,
when this story broke. I'll tell you how funny this
is when this when that story hit the the Twitter waves, myself,
Mike cliss, Ian Rappaport, We're all standing right next to
each other. We're all we're in a conversation literally when
this is happening, and I'm looking at my phone and

(25:36):
flashing it to Eat who got a phone call right
to say that? So he's on the phone with somebody
getting the same thing as I'm showing it to him,
Oh did you see this? And we're all three going,
if you you know, you'd like you know, and Mike
knew some of the background as far as that kind
of stuff goes, but we're all like what, So we
all start calling people. I'm reaching out to some people

(25:57):
I know that we're you know, in production of production
of his podcast and some of the other stuff. Ian's
shares a marketing agent with him, so Ian's reaching out
to his own agent try like, wait, what, how did
you not come to me with this? They're trying to
get a hold of Gronk. Nobody get hold of it
because he's in Australia. So there was a grain of
truth in there in the sense that he had sort
of off the cuff said that to a Denver area

(26:20):
business owner, but the other ninety nine percent of it
was utter hogwash and it got shot down, you know,
obviously a few hours later, and Ian does not shoot
things down. I feel in that.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Ters the tone frequently where I think he was a
little annoyed that he had to put the legwork in
on that, like, you know, because it's one of those
things like I'll put it to you this way, and
I know we got check traffical today here.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Second, it's one of those things where like Mike and
I like between us, like we know, like if we
don't know that something, we know at least the gist
or the background or the framework or something like that.
And when you've got you know, everybody and and the
podium in Denver, Champagne's favor bouts to come up. You
got all the media assembled right over a few yards
away from us, like if we don't know it, like

(27:06):
if I'm like, WHOA, well, first of all, congratulations on
your scoop if you got that. But this would be
one of those moments where like we didn't even have
an inkling Luca don HiT's trade ESK where it's like, no,
I no one saw it coming exactly. In fact, I
thought shams got hacked. Yeah, everybody came down. It was.
It would have been like that kind of moment in

(27:27):
this end city and not to I know it sounds arrogant,
but we don't usually get blindsided like that. We usually
have some inkling if somebody said something somewhere and no,
and we're all sitting there like I don't know, let's
make some calls. It was I wish that there was
like a like a like a hard knocks for you know,
for alleged insiders. You guys can see some of the stuff.

(27:47):
This week would have been an all time episode. It
would have been great. That's what all right away is.
Actually he was back to producing five, six, six, nine
zeros text line. Quite a few texts coming in here.
Stacy from Utel said, I think it's safe to say
Pat Mahomes got the happy ending and Deshaun Watson didn't

(28:08):
when it came to NFL careers. I always appreciate Stacy
from you thought sh having in Brian wants to know
if Cam will be selected before Shadur. I believe so. Yes,
there are some out there that believe Jackson Dart might
get selected before Shador. I don't necessarily know that. I
buy that although Dart's going to go higher than people think.

(28:31):
What do you think the floor on Shador would be?
With him falling Aaron Rodgers type situation. If he gets
past the Raiders, it's a free fall. So that's that's really,
you know, depending on how you look at that with
the Browns, the Raiders, perhaps the Jets, you know in
that area, if you get past that, it's it is

(28:51):
an absolute free fall. Maybe the Steelers take a shot
at that. Doubt it. By free fall, do you mean
like all the way to day two potential? I think
you find somebody at the end of round one that
had moved back just for the extra year and the
fifth year option. So I suspect they'll go in the

(29:11):
first round, but you know, I mean depending on who
you believe, that could be anywhere from number two overall
to you know, thirty two.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Last time Eagles picked thirty two, they traded out of
that spot so someone could take Lamar Jackson. I think
that's the last time we've had a quarterback go thirty
two as well.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
So just something to keep something to keep your eye on.
With that. I think you know the scouting report on
doors that he's basically Teddy Bridgewater, right, I mean talking
about a guy it's high football like you, but doesn't
have the greatest tools, doesn't have the greatest the athleticis
be does use it's really short area to by time.
Tough guy, but you know, not not really overwhelming you

(29:52):
with anything. He's just kind of the you know, kind
of tries to play it as safe as he can.
Pre explosion Teddy or sorry, pre need injury Teddy. Yeah, yeah,
coming out of Louvevo, right, and and you know, I
mean we saw Teddy bridget a little bit later in
his career, and you know what that is at the
end of the day. I mean, I don't know, if
I don't know if one hundred percent agree with that
comp But that's I think it's fair. I mean they're
similar in size, similar in tools, similar in athleticism. What

(30:15):
do you think about like a watered down gena smith.
I mean, you know, we can find, like I said,
we can always find different ways to do that. I
always hate those comps because it's the first shod or stander,
it's not the second anything else. But I would not
be surprised to see more and more people kind of
come around to sort of that Teddy Bridgewater comp. What else?
Uh said, don And we'll get into a little bit
of that. I want to get you know, we get

(30:36):
Frankie Abbott coming up here in the next segment. We'll
get a chance to talk to him when he's coming
out of the combine. But I'll get back more into
the shador and all that kind of stuff bottom the
next hour because I want to talk a little bit
about some other things that you know, people said to
me out there regarding concerns that they had at the
possibility of drafting him. So we'll get into that here

(30:58):
in a little bit. We got Frankie at Frankie fel
I'm on Twitter, coming up next right here, Abroccos Country
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