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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I had a couple of those texts come in.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Shout out Jody Jordan, who got a text here from
from Bryan says the update anchor on Friday is the best.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Always love Joe. Jody brought in food. He's gott like
the old charcotterie board back there, some chocolate cake, O
pay way too much salami and cake Y's.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Jody's just the best, and he's got that buttersmooth voice
that you know everybody's jealous of.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
So so good.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, we will pass along your shout out to Jody Jordan,
any of our news anchors and anything you guys want
to shout them out. They work really hard around here
and we always love having the update anchors here.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
At kay We're.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Gonna go right out the Kaway Commas spelled hotline and
bring on Richard Rousier's the chief communications officer for the
Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
And rich how you doing this evening?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm doing well? Can we talk some more about the
charcouterie board and chocolate cake?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I don't know, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I needed you to bring this with that and here
I'm just staring through this pane of glass.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Is grant Is showing down. I'm just jealous. They don't.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Don't tap on the glass the the the animals get
agitated so.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
That they will that they will, I got you gotta
be respectful of the grant there and then try to
him up through the brak Jo. You know, we has
such a great time talking to you last time you
were on this show, and when to have you back
talk a little bit more. First of all, for those
of you not familiar with what you do, what exactly
is it that the chief Communications officer does for the
Pro Football Hall of Fame?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, he jumps at most opportunities to do this. For
one thing, I love going on different radio shows or
podcasts to promote the Hall of Fame and the new
exhibits or the ways that we try to promote the
game and preserve the history of the game in Kanton Ohio.

(01:35):
I do some of the basic things like news releases
that might know when the new class is announced, put
out the news release that informs the public about who
made the class, and then coordinate the first news conference
for the new class, and just general things like that.
I think things people are probably used to with some
of the you know, the pr folks for the Broncos,

(01:55):
who we love working with. It's one of our favorite
staffs to work with and always have had a great
time dealing with them. So, you know, one of the
things that that that would probably resonate with your listeners
was when Randy, Randy gratishar got you know, informed that
he was going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
We worked with the Broncos staff, the PR staff there,
and you know, I coordinated a lot from our end
and worked with the PR staff there to uh figure
out a way to get Randy to the complex. You
know how how we're how we're the Hall of Fame
and Steve Atwater going to let Randy know he was
in the hall, so you know, to get to be

(02:33):
part of that.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now you've been working with the Pro Football Hall of
Fame for about half a decade if I remember correctly,
Is that that right?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
You are spot on? My fifth anniversary is nine days away.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh well, there we go, Happy anniversary to you. I
do uh, you know, I did want to be the
bearer of bad news. Had rub it in on Grant
a little bit because uh I had Arizona. He was
on the other side of that basketball match up here
with at University of Acron and you are an acron alum, correct.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
I am u. It was a it was a great year,
uh to see them win the MAC. They played really
well all year. They they I think they led the
MAC from wire to wire. Only had one hiccup in
conference this year. But when I saw the matchup, I said, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's over.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
This was not a good matchup for them. And I
just saw the final score a few minutes. I think
it was close to thirty. But a good year. It
really was a good year for them. But you know,
if they'd have gotten a good matchup, might have won,
you know, might have won one game, maybe two. But uh,
you know, you know, for for around here and and
where the program has been, it's it's been solid for

(03:42):
for a little while now. But this was a real
special year for them.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, you gotta be let me make it. The tournament's
a big deal, especially for for that kind of stuff.
Although Grant was quick to point out that there was
a loss to his Ohio Bobcats in there as as
he is wont to do.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I just just.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Letting you know if you need to, if you need
to chastise Grant later, I'm just putting that out there.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
You do that which you one, well.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
You know it's gonna be. You know what's going to
be a highlight for me is at some point this year,
in the next few months or so, I am going
to get a chance to tell Antonio Gates proud Kent
State alumb there you go. Uh, you know who won
the MAC this year? Because he he was talking a
little trash to me about two weeks ago that Kent
was going to burst the Aklan's bubble in the in
the MAC tournament. So I'm gonna I'm gonna be able

(04:23):
to let him know that didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know, you should. This is a perfect opportunity for
pranking somebody. You could.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
You know, we're worthholding the gold jacket. Due to your
inaccurate basketball picks. You've been reduced to the to the
to the foyer. Yeah, oh my goodness, how you already?
Gratis Ar is such a big deal here in Denver.
Finally getting him in with for you guys on that
side of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
You know, when when you see fan bases.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Coalescing behind long time guys that maybe languished out there, is.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
It is it different for you guys.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Is it is it as special I guess for the
Pro Football Hall of Fame to be welcoming that kind
of person as it is for some of these fans
bass to to see their guy finally get recognized.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well, I'll be honest, and you know, it's partly just
because of I have some memories, uh, of of the
older players from you know, they were the they were
the guys that I watched as a kid growing up.
And and and some of these older players who have
gotten in have been the reasons I fell in love
with the game in the first place. So uh and
and it's you know, just because of the era that

(05:25):
they came from. You know, they they didn't make generational
wealth playing the game. And you know, you know, Randy's
been involved in uh, you know, one of your local
automobile dealerships for decades since he since he stopped playing.
And that's you know, that's the era that that he
came from. I think I always, you know, gravitate to
the to the senior players, and to see them finally

(05:47):
after such a long wait, uh you know, get that
knock or get that call that they're in is always
kind of heartwarming.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
For us, Hey, Rich Grant here, uh Ohio, Bobcat, don't hold.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
It against me, but no worries, you know.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Speaking of another great Bronco who was here probably during
the most prestigious time during our team's history, Rod Smith.
We talked about Mike Shanahan last time we had you on.
What's it look like for rod Smith? Eventually getting into
the hall, boll I.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Say that's a there are you know, he and just
so many other names. You shake your head and you think, God,
you know, you just you just wonder if if the
ship sailed on some guys because there's so many more
coming in behind them, and it gets more and more
difficult to compare players over different eras. It really takes
it really takes a strong advocate to propose that, you

(06:41):
know that somebody get another look and and somebody to
do some you know, some of the analytics people to
you know, do comparative analytics over eras and say hey this,
you know this, Yes, this person's numbers don't compare to
you know, twenty ten, twenty twenty numbers. But don't you know,
don't forget you know, all weighted. It's different, especially you know,

(07:02):
some of the offensive statistics. It's going to be difficult
for you know, receivers from the sixties, seventies, and eighties
to jump ahead of guys who are putting up you know,
the ten thousand yards is going to be nothing here
pretty soon. It's you know, you're now you're going to
start to get into the thirteen fourteen thousand yards and

(07:22):
you know, one hundred touchdowns and and so, you know,
defensive backs now sometimes don't have the interceptions of defensive
backs from before, just the whole passing game, the way
the game has changed. I just made a comment the
other day that after one or two running backs get in,
I don't know, you know where that next. You know,

(07:43):
who's going to be that next running back who gets
in after Maybe Adrian Peterson, I mean, maybe Fred Taylor,
maybe Frank Gore. But then there's this big going to
be a big drop off for a while, just because
the way the game changed, and I think I think
selectors in the future are going to have to take
that into consideration. You know, who were the best the

(08:04):
best running backs from from particular eras should be in
the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's it's who was
the in my opinion, you know who was the best
at the time that they played.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, I think that's a big thing.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
A little real quick here, and I don't mean you
to rupt this, uh interview that we're having a real
quick some breaking news. George Foreman has passed away at
the age of seventy six, two time World heavyweight champion,
Olympic gold medalists.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
We'll have more on that.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
With the news update at the bottom of the hour,
you know, kind of a hard pivot here a little
bit from that from that breaking news.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Are you guys going to continue the rib burn off
up there in Kenton? You know what I'm talking about? Yes,
we are. Yeah, Yeah. For those of who don't know
it went on, it was like a ten year hiatus,
wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
It was. It was about a full decades hiatus. It
was a very popular event held you know, during the
ensrinment week. It bounced, it bounced around to a couple
of different locations just to try to find it the
best home. And it kind of, to be honest, it
became a victim of its own success. And there wasn't

(09:08):
there wasn't a good place to have it or a
good time to have it. In the calendar around Enshrinment
week so it did. It did go away for a
little while, and we brought it back on a smaller
scale over Memorial Day weekend last year and invited the
new class members in to be a part of that weekend.
And you know, Randy and the other members of the

(09:30):
class of twenty four came to town and unveiled some
of us in the hall call it their locker, some
of it call it, you know, kind of their their
their personal memorabilia case. And that was such a success
that we are doing that again this year. So we'll
bring the class of twenty twenty five back to Canton.
And I say back because the four members were just

(09:52):
in town over the you know, two of them just
this past Tuesday and two of them a week ago
Tuesday for their first orientation. They got to see the hall,
meet some people in Canton. We got a chance to
talk to them and show them the kind of items
we hope that they'll either loan or donate to the
Hall to be part of their personal exhibit. And over

(10:13):
the course of the next few weeks, we'll collect those
items and then bring them back in May to unveil
their lockers.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Talking with Richard Rosers from the Profooball Hall of Fame,
chem Communications Officer of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
What is your current favorite exhibit at the Pro Football
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Well, I'm going to you know, recency bias here, I'm
going to say our brand new for fairly fairly new
exhibit on Character. We launched it just after the first
of the year. It's going to run throughout twenty twenty
five and it is a showcase of some of the
individuals who demonstrated exemplary character on and off the field

(10:54):
and the kind of the centerpiece of the exhibit is
a deep dive into the uh Walter Payton NFL Man
of the Year Award, some videos of some of the
memorable speeches that that recent honorees have delivered, and big
wall graphic that lists all the names of everybody who's
won the Walter Payton Award. We've got one of the

(11:18):
awards on display. We've got some items from Walter Payton
on display. It's a fairly you know for us, a
fairly large footprint for a temporary exhibit, and half the
room almost is devoted to the Walter Payton Man of
the Year award. But the other half is some stories

(11:40):
people who went above and beyond and I'll kind of
put it that way, and or you know, or just
have some a compelling backstory. And one of one of
my favorite pieces that we've brought out on display is
a jersey worn by Joe Delaney, who was that's any
that probably not too many people are going to remember,

(12:03):
maybe a few of your listeners because he was a
Kansas City chief. So if they, you know, can think back.
I mean, gosh, this is going back now now forty years.
Joe Delaney was a running back for the Chiefs up
and comer, had a great second season, you know, an okay,
rookie season, we got some touches, really started to break
through in his second season. And then in the off

(12:24):
season after his second season, he is out and sees
three boys in a in a large pool of water
and they are struggling and they're drowning. And Joe, who
could not swim or you know, or at least you know,
could not swim well or if at all, disregarded the

(12:45):
fact that he, you know, was putting himself at peril
and went into the water and he was able to
rescue one of the boys, but in the attempt to
save the other two was unsuccessful and lost his own
life in the process. So to be able to tell
the story of someone who put his put others lives

(13:07):
ahead of his own, that's the kind of character that
we want to reflect and share those stories and remind
people that there's a lot of great things that happen,
you know, inside and outside of the game of football.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, it's a Hall of Fame person.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I actually I was too young to remember, but I
lived in Kansas City at the time when that occurred.
For those who don't know Delanney, he is the uncle
of Carolina Panthers wide receiver Tis Marshall Junior too, So
that's another connection for Joe Delaney there. For those who
want to see the exhibit, people coming out there, excuse me,
people that are coming out there from the you know,
from the Denver crowd for the Rady.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Gratish Arm Shrine and all that kind of stuff. Will
Hill's exhibits still be up.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
At that point in time, So Randy's so Randy in
the class of twenty twenty four. Their exhibits will stay
up almost almost till Memorial Day will start to break
them down, you know, maybe a week to week, a
week to two weeks. So i'd say to be safe,
if there's something that you have in mind, i'd shoot
for no later than mid May. And you know, that's

(14:11):
just that's one of the first things you see when
you walk through the front door is the tribute to
the class of twenty twenty four. And then well we'll
transition to twenty five.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Okay, yeah, as I say, last, last people to get
to get a chance to see that if they haven't
had a chance to get out there and see the
Randy Gratish are. And then you know, obviously you said
the twenty twenty five after, you know, roughly from oral day,
so that'll be a treat. This time always goes so fast.
You know, we're out of time here, Rich. I wish
I could sit here and pick your brain for a
couple of hours. I always love talking. You have to
get you on again here.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Soon that's you say the word, I'll be there. I
appreciate your time, appreciate you asking absolutely brother.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
You take care and we'll have you. We'll have you
again soon. And I again, I absolutely love having these chats.
And I wish, I wish these things last long. We
got hit break though, so Rich d Royster's chief communication officer.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
For the Pro Football Hall of Fame. A lot going
on with the NCAA tournament here.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
We'll get you guys an update on that, and then
of course the breaking news.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Our hearts are broken.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
And it is with profound sorrow we announced the passing
of George Foreman, peacefully departed this earth or March twenty first,
twenty twenty five. S Aro outed by Lovelins, humanitarian, olympian,
two time heavyweight champion of the world, deeply respected, a
force for good amount of discipline, and his family is
grateful for the outpouring of love, prayers and kindly asked
for privacy as they honor the extraordinary life of a

(15:27):
man that they were blessed to call their own.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, and you know, Rich was talking about the NFL
players who went above and beyond and shared that great
story about the Chiefs running back and George Foreman was
one of those guys who went above and beyond the
call of duty as an elite athlete and really left.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
His mark on the world.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
So that's a sad loss for the sports world tonight.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
That is, we'll get a little bit more to that,
we got an NFL six back as well.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
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Speaker 2 (16:47):
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Oh well, wait, just a moment as I'm getting the
finger from Grant, well, I'm getting two fingers.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Now, one's a pointer for a minute, one's a middle
finger for probably just being me. Well good, Still ANFL
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Speaker 4 (17:05):
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Speaker 1 (17:10):
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Speaker 7 (17:13):
What the first one here? We're going away from the NFL. Sadly,
boxing heavyweight legend George Foreman has died at age seventy six,
according to his family. Ben any thoughts to share about
the passing of the boxing legend, Well, yeah, absolute legend

(17:33):
in boxing.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Matter of fact, he came up in football and idolized
Jim Brown and ended up giving that up to get
into boxing and all that kind of stuff. Twenty two
and four as an amateur. I think he finished, was
it seventy and seventy something and five all total came
back at forty five years old, the oldest champion ever.
Total ended up with seventy six and five I think

(17:55):
was his total record. Sixty eight wins by ko a
two time Olympic boxer. That's just just fascinating, and uh,
I think.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
You know, I it was so fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
It was such an engaging personality. But even that, even
though even all of that might not be the thing
that George Foreman is most known for.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
And and I would say the thing that I al
most remember George Foreman for is uh is create well
not creating, but but being the face of an invention
that certainly made my college life a lot better. That's
the George Foreman grill, the the lead mean fat reducing
grilling machine, which I you know, I didn't care about
that portion of it. But man, when I was in college,

(18:36):
we cooked everything on the George grill. But they used
to get the big pack of hot dogs we call
come back for lunch. They can put up a bunch
of put a bunch of hot dogs on that thing, grow.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Up and be good to go for for class.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
It was, uh, you know, it was one of those
life savers when we were in college. And and you know,
sad by the loss of George Foreman. A funny story
real quick about the Foreman grill.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Uh. It was him and Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
There were two prime that they were pitching and they
came to hul Cogan first and they were like, do
you want to do this grill? This indoor grill or
do you want to do this? Uh, this little motorized beverage.
It like stirs your your drink and like blends drinks.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
You know. Hul Cogan took the Tornado whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Which went ended up going nowhere as you as we
obviously I can't remember it. And George Foreman got the
George Foreman grill and turned that into a into a success.
So kind of funny, how you know. And I made
him so much money, oh, tons of money, absolutely tons
of money.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I just looked it up. Over a hundred million units sold. Yeah,
he made George Foreman.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Uh, he got forty percent of each of the grills
that were sold. He made two hundred million dollars in
his lifetime from that endorsement piece.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
And yeah, the reason I wasn't ready for the six pack,
I was watching a compilation video of some of his
most brutal knockouts.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Man, could that dude pack a punch? Yeah? Good, yes
it could. Well I guess he could.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Funny thing, by the way, the George Forman grill in
uh in the Asian market, it's the exact same product,
but it's the Jackie Chan grill, just a little note
for you guys there.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
That's pretty far out.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
Two number two here, Stefan Diggs is currently taking a
free agent visit with the New England Patriots.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
What do you think of Diggs fit?

Speaker 7 (20:17):
Diggs is fit in New England and where do you
think he ultimately will land.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
I think it'll be New England.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
The question is how healthy is whether he's ready or
not to do all that. There isn't a huge market
for Stefan Diggs right now, and I think a lot
of that has just sort of been like he's not
exactly been the greatest locker.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Room guy as far as that goes up.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
And you know that the Patriots are just desperate because
they need pass catchers and they've been unable to lure guys,
whether it was Cooper Kopp or Chris Godwin, to come
there and and and get with their their young quarterback,
Drake Maye. I I believe he'll wind up in New England.
We'll see how it goes. But as it sits right now, yeah,
there's just not a huge market for Stefan Diggs.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
And it seems like, you know, people are willing to
put up with that that can serre in the locker
room when you're producing at a very high level.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
But he's lost a step and he's not the same
receiver he was.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
And now that baggage, Parry's a little different weight, right.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
That's that's how it goes. Man.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
The juice is worth a squeeze until it isn't. Now,
when you're not get any more juice out of the squeeze,
they're like, all right, well you're an orange, but you're
not worth anything to me.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna throw you in the trash.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
He wasn't looking great that last season in Buffalo, and
I don't think he looked really resurgent during what we
saw in Houston. And now he's coming off to torn
acl and he turns thirty two next season.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, it's you know, I mean five the Times undefeated,
and those injuries certainly don't add anything to the equation.
I thought he was good for Josh Allen when they
brought him in Buffalo. I thought it was the right
move because you needed but towards the end there it
felt like they were forced feeding him. I thought Buffalo's
offense got better when they moved on from him, and
they weren't concentrated on just force feeding him the ball.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
Well, he'd be the wide receiver that Patriots fans have
been pining for. Do you think he still has enough
left to the tank to be that guy?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Or he's healthy? He's that guy for May. He's healthy.
He's a five six hundred yard you know, season guy.
But they need anything they can get right now. And
on the wrong side of thirty ath seekers. Yeah, say
three a receiver. I'm not wrong.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
Look at the data as I'm saying, Oh, you're absolutely
right number three. On a similar note, Aaron Rodgers is
currently visiting with the Pittsburgh Steelers. How long do you
expect Rodgers to make us?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Wait?

Speaker 7 (22:20):
I think he's kind of enjoyed being in the spotlight
right now and wistfully looking out over the waves. H.
And do you think the Steelers are currently the front
runners to land him?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yes, I absolute believe the frontrunner land h. In fact,
I believe they will. Technically the Giants are still in
the mix, but they're already moving on as if you know,
they're moving forward, as if.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
That's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
In fact, they signed James Winston today. The Giants did
as well, uh, James Cutler.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Whatever you wanna call him.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
As far as Aaron Rodgers goes, they've had the framework
of a of a contract deal in place for weeks.
That's not the thing. Today was a six hour visit
with the Steelers. The idea was to get comfortable with
the coaches, make sure it's personality fit, all that kind
of stuff, and kind of go from there. I expected
a decision sooner than you think, mostly because the market
is completely dwindlingly.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Aaron Rodgers doesn't have much of a market either.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Despite him trying to pretend that Minnesota was interested in
him and they were not, that never materialized. The Giants
are sitting there like, hey, you can come on board,
but I don't think he wants that. I think he
wants out of New York. We'll see, you know, we'll
see if that changes. But New York went out and
signed Jamis today. They're kind of looking at your door
in the draft and maybe maybe Russell Wilson, although I

(23:29):
suspect he winds up in either a Cleveland or a
Tennessee who's kind of lurking there behind scenes. I expect
Aaron Rodgers to wind up with the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
I do.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Do you think this is a difference maker for the
Steelers or they still go ten and seven, nine and
eight and lose in the first round in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I mean a lot of that probably depends on the
health of Aaron Rodgers, you know, if he can make
it through a season as far as that goes. Plus
the dynamics here having that personality with George Pickens and
DK Metcalf both the.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Man and the ball. I don't know, man, I like
if there.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Was I'm not I barely watch Hard Knocks anymore, but
I would watch Hard Knocks.

Speaker 5 (24:03):
I was just gonna say, they gotta do it again.
They were on it last year with the AFC North.
We need this just the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, I would watch.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I would watch Hard Knock Steelers just for that inevitable
train wreck.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
And Rodgers is known for getting mad at his receivers
for not running hyper precise routes. Both those receivers known
for kind of being lucy goosey with their routes. Yeah,
that's a fun combo, even if it looks like a
good personality fit today, I think Rogers is the type
of guy who can like put on a good show
for the bosses and then go back to being on
tat Knacafe every week or whatever once November.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
L's one thing I will say, Rogers was at his
best when Mike McCarthy was up there in Green Bay
and they were running a those deep iceol routes.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
And that's that's what this thing is set up for.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
So if Arthur Smith wants to take a page out
of the Mike McCarthy book and do all that, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I look forward to.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
The inevitable Aaron Rodgers melt down on Arthur Smith when
he keeps trying to run up pass plays for the
third string tight end and the backup running back instead of.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Throwing the ball down the field.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
For I'm pivoting here and go into a different one.
You just mentioned how Aaron Rodgers, signing potentially with the
Steelers Giants went out and signed Jameis Winston, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Is he gonna be with Cleveland?

Speaker 7 (25:11):
Is he going to be with Tennessee? Is Russell Wilson
the even behind Jameis Winston in terms of the pecking
order among the free agent quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Now, if he goes into New York, it'll be as
the starter. You know he would have to lose that
job not you know, not be supplanted. I think it's interesting.
I mean, if you've got Molik neighbors in fantasy and
Dynasty fantasy, you're certainly like cashing in right now because
you're like, Okay, he's gonna go he's gonna have two
thousand yards receiving while Jamis throws forty interceptions to twenty
five touchdowns on the season. But you know, and elite
neighbors will absolutely get force fed the ball the way

(25:39):
Jerry Judy did when you know, when Jamis was the
quarterback there. No, it doesn't affect that, you know, if
they don't if they miss on Russ, Jamis might be
the starter until you know, Schodour or whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
You know, it takes the job.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
But it's not really I mean, the deal he signs
two year, eight million dollars, it's a four million dollars
a year deal. That's that is that's less than makes
the Rudolph sign for him. It's nothing, that's peanuts.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I mean, but Russ just out he'll signed for five.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Million, right well, I mean, I'm just saying Russell Wilson
if he goes somewhere is going somewhere to be the
starter on day one.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Whether he keeps that job is up to him. He
is mister unlimited.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Look Russ, Russ. If he'd been healthy, one have the
starter all year at Pittsburgh. I mean, I tried to
tell you guys, they didn't care about Justin Fields. They
offered him one year, twelve million dollars, and he went
and took to two year twenty from the from the Jets.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
And I don't even know if he's gonna be Toron
Taylor for that job. And go ahead, Zach.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
Sorry, I'm just saying I think that feels contract's going
to look bigger.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, And who knows how
good it's gonna look smaller?

Speaker 5 (26:34):
Who knows how good a quarterback can be, how good
of a quarterback Jameis Winston can be.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
If this happens, I'm.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
A better player, you know. But in times like this,
you know, that's it is. It's the opportunity to continue
to go off out of lower even.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Through the toughest circumstances. I know him better than this,
I know.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
I'm like, I'm just praying for the Lord to deliver
me from pick sixes five.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
That was an all time press conference moment from James Switzson.
Number five here, Lil Jordan Humphrey signed with the New
York Giants today.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Considering his perspective.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
Move to tight end with the Broncos, do you expect
the Broncos to make another veteran addition at the tight
end position too, So that's spot that they might have
carved out for him.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I don't think veteran, but I do think they will
in the draft, and I don't think that's affected by
Humphrey's signing there. I think they would have done that
either way. They need somebody to can play in line.
They do emit Ingram. That's nothing to the table when
it comes to that. Everything Room is not. I mean,
he's called a tight end, but he's really not. He's
a big slot receiver, that's what he is. Uh And
so yeah, I think the Broncos will. I've been throwing
the name Mason Taylor out there. I stand by that.

(27:41):
I believe that if the Broncos go to the draft
and Mason Taylor's are in the second round, I believe
they would strongly look at that.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Would they go ahead?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Lil Jordan might be the guy on the roster that's
no longer a Bronco that they might miss the most.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
I feel like he was so undervalued. He was he
dirty work, dirty work guy.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
Doesn't Surefield give you a lot of what little Jordan Humphrey.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
The Eoretically, between Ingram and Sherfield, you get what you
you know, you get the receiving and Ingram and the
blocking out of Sherfield.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
You know, you get much better receiving. I mean, yeah,
you Ingram's a much better receiver than Lil Jordan Humphrey.
Ingham's been on a decline for like six years.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
I mean, but yeah, but he's still signed for twenty
three million over two years with sixteen guaranteed, and Little
Jordan Humphrey's on a one year deal near the vat minimum.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, it was good.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
Anyone could have poached him off their practice squad for
much of the past two seasons wanted to.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
And I'm not saying there isn't value. You know, maybe
he was more valuable to Sean than anybody else. But
I don't go by the contracts they signed because sometimes
that's just the cost of doing business. But you know,
little Jordan Humphrey, I mean over the last two years,
He's got the same number of touchdowns as Evan Ingram
and had some huge plays. You know, I mean Ingram's
his best season was his rookie We had six touchdowns.
He used a three touchdown of your guy, you know,

(28:51):
unless you spam him with targets like Jacksonville did a
couple of years ago. I don't know, man, this Ingram signing,
I'm a little underwhelmed by that one.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
There's our playing. We'll see, We'll see. I will take
the Ingram stat line over the little Joan Humphrey sat
line this year. They're fair enough.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
Six Chicago Bears hiring of Sorry, the Chicago Bears hiring
of Ben Johnson, the Bengals re signing of Chase and
Higgins who dah Grant h the Rams signing DeVante Adams
were ranked the off season's three best moves by NFL
dot Com.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
What do you make of that top three?

Speaker 7 (29:27):
Do you feel there are any notable emissions or undeserving honorees.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
I think the Bengals resigning of Chasing Higgins is fun
for the fans. I actually think it was one of
the worst moves UH in free agency. They've got no
space available to be able to go out there and
field the defense.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
They're gonna be the most entertaining team to lose ten
games next.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Year by you know, after scoring thirty points, Like I
just I don't understand what they're doing in Cincin at
this point, Like you should have kept one of them
and let the other one go like that, That's what
you should have done, and then go out and feel
the team and especially with with you know, continue to
fill out the offensive line so that you could actually
you know, maximize your quarterback with those receivers, you know,

(30:09):
and put together You've got to hit on every draft pick.
I mean, you just do at.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
This point all defense in the draft this year, and well,
I mean you still got.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
An offensive line that's got a block, you know.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
I Mean it's I think the problem for the Bengals
is they've just drafted really poorly the past couple of years.
I think if you let T Higgins walk, you're not
replacing that level of talent with anything that was out
there in the vet market. With the money you had,
I don't think there's anything to replace him with.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Probably not, but you could get somebody that that could
at least produce I mean, because Chase is going to
draw double teams at that point, maybe even triple teams,
and whoever's on the other side over there's going to
get one on once. If you've got a guy that
can win one. Like for me, I to save the money,
sign to Mary Cooper and then use that money to
finish filling out the offensive.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
Line and maybe bring Trey Hendrickson back.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
That's what I'm saying. You bring Hendrickson back. You felt
the offensive line, you might be able to get a corner.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't know. I thought it was a terrible move
by the Bangle. I get it. It's fan service, but
you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Be you know, you're gonna be the best team in
the NFL to lose twelve games.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yeah, this was about keeping Joe Burrow and the fans happy.
And I agree with you, actually, Ben, which is a
rare thing for me. It's good being on the right
side of something, yeah, but bad side for my Bengals.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
I'm on the positive end for the Bengals here. I
think it's a really good move. I think it's harder
to find. I think we're in the era of cap
space where it's going to be and now ownership can
easily create extra cash for themselves by selling off those
tiny parcels.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Of the team. Who knows what the Brown family will ever.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
Do that, but I don't know. I don't think it'll
be that big of an issue. It's a harder thing
to find great players. You're keeping the great players everyone
wants in a leite passing offense. I think the Bengals
are locking that end for the next three four years.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
And also, you know a no mission from your question,
there where are the Broncos on that list with Hafanga
and Drake Greenlaw Like.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Those are huge moves.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
I think that's bigger than Devonte Adams to the Rams.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, Adams to the Rams things six to one half
dozen the other I think, well, we'll see, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
For me, I think secretly one of the sneaky best moves.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I didn't like him necessarily for ever everybody, but where
he wound up. Najee Harris to the Chargers might wind
up being being a pretty big Jim Harba that offense,
but a Greg Roland offense that might wind up the
average trade on top, you know, and and conquering and
all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
They man the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I'm telling you the Broncos have gotten better as a
team and it might not be reflected in the record
when we come to look at this issue simply because
the other team's and the division are getting better too.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I not your NFL six pe, I appreciate you, uh
zach anything else going on kitchry today?

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I got I got one last one? Or wait was
that six? That was six? Oh? I forman give us seven? Yeah?
I got something for sorry.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
Dion Sanders said on NFL Network that he believes in
NFL team is spreading lies about his son, and that
he knows which franchise it is, but he didn't want
to out them. Of course, do you believe Deon's claims?
And either way, which franchise do you believe deon suspects?

Speaker 1 (32:53):
No? I don't believe him.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
That's not how the league works, because the minute you
did that, you get caught. Like everybody knows everybody in
this league in the middle, and like it's not difficult
to figure out where stuff comes from.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Uh, if you've been around it long enough.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I Dion's just wolf and just a woman, which is
honestly one of the reasons that Shador may fall in
this draft if the Giants still take him, because there
are teams that are concerned that this dude's.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Got a megaphone.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
He can get on any you know network, he wants
to or a huge social media following and say anything
he wants.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Especially what if you have a bad offensive performance. He
wants to blame the OC.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
You know that guy's jumping on McAfee, you know, jumping
on NFL network whatever, with all the people used to
work with and NC. All of a sudden, his job
security doesn't look good simply because Deon Sanders decided to
get on you on media and start talking.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
Yeah, and even if he doesn't get on media, it's
gonna be leading first taken everything because he tweeted about it.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
The story of the day. So Broncos coaching today, I
can tie you know what of coach Braft and that
instead of when I said it Hm
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