03-25-25 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Broncos country tonight, bed within All, Brian mcferguson, Grant Smith
here with you a big show tonight. Ron Michael going
to join us seven o'clock hour. Any been aedetto as
well from the Denver Gazette. Well, get a chance to
talk a litle nuggets with him. A lot of breaking
news going on right now. Some players getting contracts. Russell
Wilson signing with the New York Giants, or has agreed

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to terms. Rather, they haven't officially signed it yet, but
has agreed to terms with the New York Giants. Has
a max value of twenty one million dollars a one
year deal minimum value of ten and a half million.
I don't have all the information on what the escalators are,
but they some of them I know are playtime and
some statistical stuff in there too. The Giants already had

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Jameis Winston on the roster that they'd signed, and I
am told that this does not take them out of
the market for a quarterback in the draft, So they Joe,
Shane and Brianda will understand if they don't get quarterback right,
they're not going.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
To be there anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, I agree with you, but I look at it
from this particular standpoint. If I'm the Giants known as
though you have Russ and you have Jamis on your team,
neither of those guys are long term solutions. Each one
of those guys supply a temporary bridge to your next quarterback.
So with the Giants sitting at three when they signed

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this sign, Russell Wilson I was like, you know what,
this puts the Giants in play because here's what we
do know. We don't know who the team is, but
we know someone is going to be desperate enough to
want to move up to that third spot. And if
I'm the Giants and I'm Joe Shane, especially after what
Joe Shane did, which was a travesty when when John Mars.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Said don't trade Sa Kuan, he did it.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Anyway, move back, stay in the first round, swap picks,
and you still can get your quarterback of the future,
and if you want to, you can get.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
All the position of players as well.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
So this in essence would save Joe Shane's job, but
also it puts in the mix usher Dousanders because when
you look at lineman Matt drafts, where do they have
him landing the new York Giants.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
That's you know, the Giants still a lot of work
on schdor Centers. They were out here quite a bit
over the course of the last year. You know, we've
talked about that a bunch on this show. We'll see,
you know, kind of how everything goes. I think cam
Ward number one of the Titans is pretty much a
done deal at this point. I think the Giants had
thought that around the combine, they kind of put together
a package to get to one.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Uh, they thought they had that in the bag. They
thought they.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Had that, you know, and as time were on, the
Titans just sort of it felt like they sort of
pivoted back towards cam Ward. And it looks that's that
way obviously. They cam Ward's pro day Miami was yesterday.
They've got a private meeting set up with him. They
went to dinner with him Sunday. That's starting to feel
more and more like a reality. And you know, the

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Abdol card to the to the to the Browns or
two appears to be, you know, kind of more and
more crystallizing itself as well.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
So where could be there?

Speaker 1 (03:10):
And I think if you go to trade back, like
you should ask the Giants should do. You gotta have
a partner there. You got somebody that wants to come up. Now,
are they gonna come up with the quarterback? Are they
coming up for Travis Hunter? But you gotta have a
partner there, because the Patriots could take Hunter at four.
You gotta have a partner there to be able to
trade back. And in this draft, I just don't know
who that partner would be.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well, it doesn't make a difference who the partner is
and which player they're coming up to get. We know
teams get to it'sy trigger finger when it comes to
certain plays because everyone has their draft boards all well
to go, and then they got the backup contingency plans
and all it takes is one domino to change all
of that where they now have to go back in

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and reshuffle the deck.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
So this move by Russell is going.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
To create somewhat of a reshuffle because some of the
teams that we're definitely needed quarterbacks, they fill us up out.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Maybe we don't have to.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Maybe we can pop up breaks just a little and
just intensify things as other teams they want to come
up for a running back or an edge rusher or
an interior defensive lineman. Right, So we know in certain
areas of the draft is deep and other areas not
so much. So you can get a team that's probably

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calling the Giants right now saying okay, well what would
it take to get up there? We just we just
want to kick the tires, just to have a mental
mindset if that were the case. So, if you're the Giants,
you entertain every single one. And we know on the
day of Draft Day, once Roger cadell Is that walks
across the stage and he says the Cleveland Browns or

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the Tennessee Titans are on the clock, desperation is going
to start to set in. Someone's going to get froggy
and want to jump, and that might be the right
opportunity for the Giants to actually take advantage of it.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, see, I still think they go shador there. He
is the betting favorite by way plus one oh five.
Currently it's you know, the odds on him the next
best odds or Travis Hunter at plus two thirty five.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
And then yeah, after that it's Jackson Dart Ashton Janney
at plus sixteen hundred twenty five hundred. There's there's not
a lot of there's a belief amongst the betters that
it's either going to be shud or Sanders or Travis
Hunter there at three, whether the Giants or are picking
or not.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I was told that the signing russ does.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Not at all take them out of the equation for
a quarterback in the draft, whether that's at three, whether
that's later on, but I was specifically told that today.
And then you know, regarding the Russell Wilson thing, he
had the opportunity to sign with Cleveland for more years,
and he chose.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
New York for whatever reason. So now it's more money
in New York. Great.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
First of all, think about that New York City Cleveland, Ohio.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
I I plus the from what I understand the the
deal from Cleveland was like two years, sixteen million, where
he got the one year twenty one and a half
from the Giants. So that sort of tells you, you know,
what's going on with that right there. I believe that
Cleveland is going to continue to pursue a trade for
Kirk Cousins with the Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
We'll see if they're able to do that.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I know they've also reached out put some feelers out
about Brandon. I you can adding him opposite Jerry Judy,
So Cleveland could be trying to push all in here
secretly and not people not know.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Think about that, the fact.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
That you have teams like Cleveland, teams like the Giants
and even Pittsburgh, they would rather kind of, I guess
timporarily put their futures in the hands of veteran, experienced quarterbacks,
regardless of how you feel about those quarterbacks and what
their capabilities are, opposed to younger quarterbacks. Because the league

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is built around quarterbacks. You got to get a young
quarterback because that's going to give you the five years
to build your team because they still on a rookie deal.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
But the idea of.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Opting to get veteran quarterbacks, what does that truly say
about this year's draft class from the quarterback position.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I don't know if it's I don't know if what
the Giants are doing is an indictment on that, as
much as it is that Joe Shane and Brian Dable
know that if they don't get quarterback right, they're not
gonna be there anyway, you know, and are either one
of those guys ever gonna get a second opportunity Joe
Shane's probably not. No, Brian Dabele maybe off as the coordinator. Well,

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I mean you'll go back to being an OC and
then if he has a good yeah, right, then it's possible.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
That he could bounce back. But Joe Shane's probably not
getting a second shot. No, he's not.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
So this is their you know, this is their eight
mile mom spaghetti moment. You know, like they gotta they
gotta make it work. And I I tweeted this out
several weeks ago that the Giants are gonna take multiple
wax at trying to get this thing right, and they are.
I just think it's interesting that you know that that
they could still go a Shador and then you know,
it's just have a competition, just like throw all through

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of them out there, split the reps, have a competition.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
May the best man wins.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
For me, I feel the Giants moving back swapping picture
with another.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Team stand in the first round, still.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Taking either an offensive lineman or a running back, whatever
position you want to. I still think New York would
be a great opportunity for Shador because you mentioned the
idea of competing with Winston and Russell.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I'll take it a different approach.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
The competition part is already built into it, the fact
that you have Shador, who's an African American quarterback in
New York City. He would have a chance to back
up and learn from two guys who are similar to
him and who I would definitely say that. I look
at both Jamis and Russell as being quality leaders. Who

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better to bring along your young quarterback than those two
guys who've seen their fair share of success and their
fair share of failure.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I think those three can co exist in a locker room, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I just think they're all three are wildly different quarterbacks.
By the way, every quarterback in New York right now
is an African American. You justin fieldz Rod Taylor, Russell, Wilson,
Jameis Winston, and then maybe, you know, maybe Chador will
see it's But I mean, they're wildly different quarterbacks. Jamis
is not very mobile, but he's a big arm. I'm
gonna squeeze it in. I trust my arm guy. Russ's

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used to be mobile and wants to play moon ball
on the outside and he'll throw the comeback, you know,
on the outside as well, but doesn't like to go
between the numbers and then Chador is more of the
between the numbers, almost Teddy Bridgewater type as a passer.
They are wildly different quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
So once again you take all those facets right, and
it's like the Giants are trying to build a go
go jadgict quarterback, right because you have so many guys
with different skill set that when evaluators evaluating quarterbacks, they're
looking for those your neque characteristics.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
But each one of those players possessed that.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
So if you put Shador in that environment and he
can learn from that, because every time you throw from
the pocket, it's not going to be clean, right, So.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Using especially behind the Giant's offensive life.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yes, so known as though Russell has seen his early
success being a mobile quarterback being able to escape and
also seeing not so much from a playmaking standpoint where
he's trying to roll out and doesn't work out for him,
should Door has been there too, So shard Door can
learn a lot from those guys, both from a success

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standpoint and the failure standpoint that carry carries him forward.
Because I don't think Schardoor or most of the younger
quarterbacks should start right away.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think in this particular case,
he would anyway.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I mean, who knows, maybe he'd come out and win
the competition if they had one. But yeah, I just
they are so wildly different in the way that they
play the game. It's just fascinating. I'm like, do we
need two more guys in here? And the when their
powers combined, do they form Captain Planet? Because they are
you know this, this is an odd combination if they
do ultimately go uh that direction.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Well, Jordan Humphrey somebody the Giants have signed recently, also.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Got Zach Pascal. They obviously have Wandell Robinson already. And
then of course Elite Neighbors interesting receiving corps there in
New York. It looks like they sort of want to
spread it out, you know, a bunch put maybe put
uh neighbors one on one on one side and spread
it out on the other side and see what they
can get.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
And I think that of all the quarterbacks that would
favor it would be she door. Yes.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
And once again the idea is, how do you surround
your your young quarterback with a multitude of different individuals
that can.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Help them grow and mature.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
When you think about some of the names you just
called from the Giants from an offensive weapons standpoint. That's
not a who's who of offensive players that is going
to I guess scale the vi Jesus out of defender
and coordinators.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
So this is why the Giants and Joe Shane they
have to get this right.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
They have to go out in this draft and actually
put more talent around either Jamis or Russell. I'm saying Russell,
I'm giving him the edge as far as winning that
starting position, but you have to build it. That's why
I say move back and you can add younger players,
so therefore help out Shador.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
This is what building a culture, in my mind really means,
you know, because you always hear you gotta build the culture.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
You got to build a culture, and it's sometimes think
that it's the raw, raw part of it.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's like, no, you have.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
To build the culture where your core guys can actually
grow together. We talked about it last night and it's
similar to what Cincinnati has done. But the Cincinnati put
some money into it. The Giants don't have to do that.
They can rely on drafting and developing guys and putting
those guys, whether it's around Shador or whatever, young quarterback

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they decide to take.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Well, whatever the case may be, the Giants have to
hit on one of these quarterbacks, so they're not going
to be developing them this These coaches in this front office.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Won't uh won't be there.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
This is their year as far as that kind of
stuff goes the question, and I think all eyes now
turned to the Pittsburgh Steelers and Aaron Rodgers, you know, uh,
And I'm gonna be honest, Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Fans are a little restless about that.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
They have a culture there at Pittsburgh and they're kind
of you know, we've already seen a player come out
and say, look, if you want to be here, come
be here.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
If not, move out the way. I would agree with that.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
I totally agree with that, And so many times we've
seen Aaron Rodgers do this in his career. He did
it with the Green Bay Packers for two season and
he had the whole NFL like on a two.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Year lockdown, you know, waiting for Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Like finding Forster or something like that. But if I'm
the Pittsburgh Stingers at Mike Tomlin, he said, when you
think about your teams or your organization legacy, we're not
gonna wait on you do. Because here's what I know
and what we've seen from Aaron Rodgers. Anytime he's done
that with any team, the Packers or the New York Jets,
that's given him automatically walking through the door, the idea

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I got cart blaunched to do whatever I want to see.
See how I'll put them on pause to wait for
me to roll down a red carpet. No, the Pittsburgh
Steeler should lead the ground ground work right now and say, look,
either you're coming or you're not.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
It's not gonna be one of these.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Things where we're finding out in a twenty fifth hour.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, and we need to be prepping for you or
not you being here. How do you build a team
around somebody if they're not there, you don't know if
they want to be there or whatever the case may be.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
So that's the thing. I do expect Aaron Rodgers to
go to the Steelers. I do expect him to do
is you will ego thing and drag it out a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
But I do expect him to ultimately wind up to
go there because there's nowhere else for him to go
right now.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
And unless he's gonna go.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
To the Sitans, or there's nowhere else to go, So
pitch of this really quickly, Aaron Rodgers doing the Aaron
Rodgers type things. He eventually ends up signing with the
Pittsburghs too. It's the Steelers and Bay Story franchise, right.
Fan base travels like like no one else, like no
one's business, and they're already wrestless because they want a
decision to be made. He goes there, doesn't perform in

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the first three games, give me a seat. I mean,
it depends for that one.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Well, I'm here for the locker room with him in
DK metcalf at George Pickens. Yeah, in that event, But
for the fan perspective, I don't know that there's I
don't know, I mean, because what else are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Turn the Mason Rudolf and me get out of here.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Master Rudolph has already proved he's not a you know,
he's not good enough with how many teams now, Like
that's you.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Know, obviously Mason Rudolph isn't the answer. But you have
to have a quarterback in place just in case. So
if things don't work out with Aaron Rodgers and Mike
Tomlin and the brass over there in Pittsburgh. They said,
you know what, we don't have time for these childish games.
Then you go look into the drafts. Maybe Jackson Dart
now becomes that guy, right, he may not be the

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guy that.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
The Steelers actually wants.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
From a fan base standpoint, which you can't waste your
time waiting on Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
You can't, which we here in Denver did.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I certainly remember when work out across town was it
Mark Schlarrath was saying he was gonna be the guy
here or whatever on draft day and then that ended
up not happening. Almost say, the Broncos did pursue that,
you know, pretty heavily, but ultimately that it did not work.
We did have a text came in on the text
line that says, do you think that Shador would take
riding the bench in stride?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Can you please read this on air for Nick Well,
he was, okay, he has no choice.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
You're a rookie quarterback freaking coming into the NFL, right,
would you rather be thrown out to the Wolves, have
a mediocre season and then New York if it's New York,
whether it's the Jets or the Giants, that media is brutal.
It's best for some of these quarterbacks to sit Wait.
Who says that, you know, Shador's rise has to wait

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till the end of the season. It could happen sooner
than later. But to throw him out to the wolves,
man pop good breaks should do. Would have to settle
with that concept of the reason that.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm sitting here is for me to learn.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
It's not an indictment of me saying, well, I'm gonna
sit you in a bit.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
No, we want you to learn. Let the game slow
down for you want trying to set you up right.
And I think it's smart. I mean, there are a
few quarterbacks you just throw out there.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Let them, you know, let them and some guys that
will take a couple of games, they'll get their phone nicks.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Some guys will get it right away, Jaden Dames, and.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Then some guys you know, you probably need to set
up a little while.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Let this be the game. Get there.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Well, Drake May, right, Drake May didn't go out there
a week one, but when he came out there, it
looked like he was a.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Lot better than appreciate. You know, sometimes it's good, yeah,
because here's what we know.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
The league to do to you right, no matter what
position you play, but more employee, if you play the
quarterback position, it has a pupicity to John Wick you yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well quickly keew you up, spitch you out. That kind
of stuff goes. We had a big show tonight, Ryan
Michael going to join his Top of the Hour. We
got any better detto from the gazec and tug the
Nuggets a little bit later as well. Yeahs, listen to
Broncos Country night right here on KA Way. But some
breaking news during the during the break there, Milwaukee Bucks

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Dame Lillard has sustained deep vein thrombosis, that is a
blood clot in his right calf. Lillard is on blood
fitting medication which has stabilized the blood clot and will
continue with regular testing, but he is out indefinitely.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Oh you wishing Dame Lillard?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Well, this is wild because this is the second NBA
player to suffer from this particular situation. Wenby Yes, because
Womy had it in his shoulder right and the Spurs
had to shut him down.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
And blood clots are deadly. Because usually they tell you.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
When you fly on long trips like thirteen hour trips
to make sure you move around so you don't suffer
some of the blood clot which makes me think, remember
when the Broncos flew to London to play Jacksonville and
so many people were making fun of Russell.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
You know, I guess he's doing you know, high knees
or whatever in the aisles.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
It seemed like he was lame, But I knew exactly
what he was dealing with, because that's how you prevent
your blood from clotting.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I mean Russ, you know, because Russ is a dork.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
So he got the treat, you know, he got the
he got the derisive treatment on the internet for that.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
But like when he was done, like, I get it,
I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
You're on a long flight, you know, and you're trying
to Like, I get it.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I know what he's trying to do there.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
But because it's Russell Wilson, everybody has to react to it, like,
you know, a certain way.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, but this is big for Daveman Lillard and.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
The Milwaukee Bucks because the Milwaukee Bucks they're one of
the remaining nine teams that the Denver Nuggets have to
face and never be facing the Nuggets tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, that's why I was, Uh, that's part of the
reason I brought that up. Normally I wouldn't do a
whole lot of basketball, you know, breaking.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
News on that kind of up. But I mean, the Bucks, we've.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Got a pretty decent roster there. But you got Giannis
who's day to day, you got the Lizard who's out. Now,
that's gonna be an interesting sort of thing for them
going forward and uh and seeing where they're at. I mean,
because they really they were really looking at Dame as
as being a central cog and what it is they
were trying to accomplish their third over there in the uh,

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in the central right, and I believe third in the central.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Well, this is a win for the Nuggets, even though
the game hasn't been played yet because they I mean,
they lost this to Chicago. But I had to get
too deep into it just yet. I know, we get
into it later on, but this is uh, it's difficult
for the Milwaukee Bucks, but it's great if you're a

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different Nuggets fan.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, uh yeah, it certainly makes it a lot easier
for the Nuggets down to stretch as they continue to
try to work their way back. And we'll keep more
on that announcement as we are able just to find.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Diggs signed with the Patriots. Did a huge contract for
Stefan Dicks, well, a three year sixty nine million or
something like that, pulling up the details right now, Yeah,
that's that's right, Grant.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
So wait, so that's a guy coming off a three years,
sixty nine million an Achilles injury.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, and he getting paid like that. Yeah, that's wild.
And that Stefan Diggs getting.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Paid like that, Like Stefan Diggs is like three years
removed from being Stefan Dicks.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Wow, it's just amazing.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
I mean, if you're another wide receiver who's a healthy guy,
your agent, if he's not looking at Stefan Diggs and
his deal with the Patriots and saying, look, man, I
got a healthy dude over here, will put up numbers
last year.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
I mean, you got to give us a comparable.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Contract that's similar to that of Stefan Diggs. But I
like to think in that three years, it's not a
full three year deal I'm looking at and I don't
I don't have the numbers in front of me, but
I like to think that maybe it's a one year
deal and everything else is based on how well he
produces and how healthy he is probably and the Patriots
have had to overpay because they've tried to get receivers

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to come out there and they just.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Haven't been able to land him.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Chris Godwin, they had a big deal in front of him,
he went back to Tampa, Cooper Cup chose Seattle, and
so they've they've just been kind of forced to overpay
in an effort to try to get guys in.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
There's to five digs.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I mean, man, he's been on a three year sort
of downward trend with the turns of yards per reception.
He went from eleven touchdowns three years ago to eight
to three last year. Of course, he was obviously hurt
last year, but he was he was on pace last
year for not hitting a thousand yards for the first
time in his career, you know, and for six total

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touchdowns on the season, which are you know, it is
not good numbers for him after he put together six
straight thousand yards plus seasons, including twenty twenty where he
led the NFL with or he was close with fifteen
hundred and thirty five yards.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
So you know, it's interesting to me.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
A New England obviously trying to just you know, get
whatever they can in there. That wouldn't fascinate to me
because there's team that he's theoretically in the hunt for
Travis Hunter in the draft, and I'm told they're one
of the teams that hugh Travis Hunter as an offensive player.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Well, I mean, anyone in this draft, how could you
not view Travis Hunter as an offensive plus some.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
View of them as a corner that will get some
offensive packages.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Well, well, I mean, once again, that's my whole point. Like,
based on what his skill Levelly is, you look at
him as a guy who is a dude, great guy,
who is capable of playing Why receive your position, but
better suit it to play right away? From a corner standpoint,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Think they view him that way.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I think they view him as a wide receiver only
like that's that's one of yeah, Like I don't think
they I don't think they plan on putting him on defense,
So that's you know, I don't know about that one.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's that's fascinating to me.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I was talking with Shelby Harris, who was in here
with these guys earlier on the way out the door.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
He was just kind of rolling his eyes they don't
know what they're doing. In New England.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
They may not because it appears, you know, it appears
that that's the case. But anyway, congratulations of Steffan Digs
for the get the bag. But man, that seems like
a lot of money for somebody coming off injury and
on the backside of his career. I mean, this would
be his what tenth eleventh season in the league.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Maybe they you would think that before you get out
give a player bag like this, that you're gonna have
your medical staff kick the tires, check everything, MRIs.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
And all of that. He takes shall But look at
the Falcons last year at Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
We see that was the Falcons right that they were
desperate for a quarterback, so they made that snap judgment
with Stephan once again not having his numbers in front
of me. I'm thinking that his contract is an incentive
latent contract, right Well, if he if he pays dividends
from a production standpoint, then certain escalators possibly kick in.

(24:48):
But when you look at the wide receiver corps, you
got Stefan Diggs, mc hollins, Kendrick Bourne, Pop Douglas and
kay Sean Boody Rights.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's a decent group.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
And I'll say this, whatever Robert Kraft was not willing
to do for their previous head coach, he's going to
do now for Mike Vrabel.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah. I mean, like I said, they certainly they added
mac Hollins, I got some grit there. They added Stefan Diggs.
I mean, that's that's an interesting wide receiver corps.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't know that there's anybody there that scares you,
but it's an interesting receiving court. It's certainly an upgrade
from what they had last year when they've had a
dearth of weapons there.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
So, but it's similar to what the Patriers have done,
you know during a twenty year run with Tom Brady, right,
not household names, but guys who excel at what they
do best.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, and and try to do that. And Mike Vrabel's
going to take them back in that direction.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
It appears, of course, they've got a couple of tight
ends there, Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper, and then they've
had a Garrett Bradbury at the center position and Morgan
Moses at the right tackle. So try to shore up
that line for Drake May and build around him. As
far as that goes, I'm told they're going to be
in the market for running back in the drafts as well.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Defensively, man, they really put a lot into free agency
in that front seven.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
They had Milton Williams from Philly.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
They had Kiristanga, Harold Landry, Robert Splane, Jack Gibbons, Clavon Chason.
I mean, they have added a lot to that front seven.
They had a Carlton Davis at the corner, and they've
already got Christian Gonzalez and Marcus Jones. So I mean again,
if you like Travis Hunter, to me, even looking at
the roster at screams, hey, we're bringing him in here
as a receiver.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Look if they if the Patriots were to do that,
I would love it because when you talk about being
a riverboat gambler, I mean, Mike Vable is that type
of god. And like we talked about earlier, Drake May
didn't really look that well at the beginning of the season.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Towards the end he started to come into his own.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
So now you put that guy, even though it's not
with the same offensive coordinator. Now he has Josh mc dames.
They're gonna figure some things out. It's not I don't
feel bad for the Patriots, like, well, that's gonna that's
gonna be a team that is going to finish in them.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
They're gonna be real competitive this year. Yeah, and I
think Vrabel's a good coach. So we'll see. We'll see
how that works.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Out for and get some other stuff I want to
get to, including this weird under Armoured deal.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
We'll get to that in a second. See how that goes.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Did you see this story earlier today under Armour returns
as the NFL's footwear and glove partner.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
It was interesting because under Armor was really popular when
I was playing, and it just kind of taped off
towards twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
And we know how these things work.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
I mean a lot of these NFL sponsored businesses.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
The league doesn't pay them. They paid the league.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yes, the businesses pay the league to be associated with them.
And I think it's really interesting because when you think
about some of the top apparel of leaders, it's Adidas,
and usually Adidas is primarily in soccer, and then you
think of about Rebok, Nike, that's the things are still
doing all the uniforms and gloves and footwear anyway, So

(28:07):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Is anybody gonna be allowed to wear underwear under armour
stuff because Nike is still the apparel guy.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, I mean I think Nike has a long standing
deal with the NFL as far as the jerseys are considered.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, the uniforms.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
But yes, but but but just under armored deal if
I understand it correctly, Now you have you have gloves,
and you have footwear. Now there are certain guys who
are in the NFL who have Nike contracts. They are
Nike guys. I mean, you don't have a Nike contract.
You can go with who the hell you want to
go with. But we're gonna see the click.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Clack come back maybe.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I mean, I like, I remember those commercials click class
Justin Jefferson is an under armour guy by the way, Yes,
But I mean, like, are you gonna be allowed to
wear this stuff on the field?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, yes, you will be allowed to wear is the
uniforms are Nike. It's gonna look like a high page
just like when I was growing up. The idea is
that you couldn't wear a Nike shirt.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
You purpose for it, you couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
But but once again, we're going to see a hodge
podge of things, just like think about a years ago.
We never thought that the NFL would have, you know,
or any sports for that matter, would have you know,
logos on their jerseys like NASCAR, but they do.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Now we got to sleep Sleep Matters or Mattress Firm
on the practice jerseys, not on the actual jersey, on
the practice jerseys.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
So with that being said, after I tossed this out
to you, Grant, you've been and the listeners since we're
talking about apparel and under armour coming back, what was
your favorite apparel commercial?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Like for me, it is always going to be territating
the office linebacker.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
That that's always going to be my favorite.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, that was up there. I think bow No's the
bow nos campaign was it?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Was it? What was it that over the top where
you like, if you had to rank it in top
five sports commercials, where were they rank?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
That one was up there and he's just memorable. The
bow Nose campaign stuck with me. I had to put
that one up there, trying to think of that. The apparel.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
What was the one where it looks like the quarterback
throws it like I think it's vic and it looks
like he throws it like out of the stadium or whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Was that an apparel or was that was that a
it was a Gatoraye commercial. I can't remember, you know what,
I'm not I'm not sure on that particular one.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
But I'll say this, Nike has always dominated the peril commercials.
It's always dominated, Like think about remember what they had
and one and then they used to have Jason Williams
and that that. Yeah, it looked like and one.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Commercial white chocolate. Yeah, and it just seemed like a bunch.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Of skeets and squirts of the sneakers on the on
the glass floor.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
That was great. That was a power ad commercial, by
the way.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yeah, okay, Michael, Yeah, I can remember when he's like
throws it.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, that one stuck with you. I don't know a commercials.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
I think I gotta roll with the Bonose campig because
that's the one that resonated the most with me. The
best one of all time is Spike Lee and Michael
Jordan Like, Mike, yeah, no, Mars, that's the best one.
What about what about the one where Lebron dresses up
as a grandpa? What you know, Lebron, he dresses up
as the old man and he goes hoops on the

(31:20):
street court.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
You don't talk about you can't follow MJ commercial with
any conversation about Lebron, so let's not do that.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'm just trying to think, like what what what I'm
trying to remember what that was.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Remember, like he's old man Lebron and then he goes
out and starts scooping on the court. See, I'm thinking
that's to rip on Kyrie Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's one of those
I think that's what it was. I think it ripped
on that or whatever. But I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
If you think about it, if you find a grand
let me let me know if it's out there. But
one of my favorites also is the early Nike commercials
with the late Dennis Hopper.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, the one when he's going to too Baby.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Like a lot of those commercials, they are global phenomenons
because you're not just selling a shoe the way that
some shoe companies called it. You're selling an experience. Yeah right,
we're selling experience.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
You're part of the brand. Yes, Yeah, I'm trying to
think Nike had some good ones to be like Mike,
it's got to be the shoes. They I mean, they
had some, they had some good, good campaigns.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Say see, the best commercial of all was the Gator
Ray commercial.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Be like Mike commercial.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
There was one year you were playing the Portland Trail
Blazers and I remember I was watching the game with
my brother and Mike had one of these moves where
he kind of jumped up and kind of reversed it
and with the other hand, and I told my brother
very jokingly, that's gonna be the next Nike Gatoray commercial.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
I don't know who did the editing during that time.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Well when they went to commercial, that particular play was
edited to the commercial.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, I think so, I'll try to the only other
the only other commercial I remember that resonated with the sports,
but it was a coke commercial. Is that means Joe
Green Coca Cola commercial? Well with the kid, Yeah, that's
a great one, but that wasn't an apparel commercial.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
We come back, We've got Ryan Michaels going to Jonas
Broncos country that I can't wear