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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What it back through a broncos country today, I'd mention
with Olbridan, Nick Ferguson Gratsmith here with you five six
sixt nine zero is the text line we're gonna write
out the KA comes from hotline though, and bring all
the voice of the buffs and the man who I
admittedly have voice envy of every single time I talk
about it, Mark Johnson, Mark, how you doing this evening?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
That could good to be on with you guys. It's
kind of an exciting day in Boulder, Colorado, isn't it. Well?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Bed, look at that you got the coach prime extension done,
so you had the opposit and then you had the
lows In the afternoon, his words sort of leaked out
the NC double A was quashing what I thought was
a great idea and having a controlled scrimmage with Syracuse.
Let's start with that last part. First, what do you
think of the NC DOUBLEA denying that the reasoning they
gave seemed fairly ludicrous to me, but perhaps you have
(00:44):
a different take on that.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, For first off, I was really.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Excited about that because remember I came from Syracuse here
to Colorado, so I've got connections on both sides. So
I thought it was fantastic and back the announcers from
Syracuse and I had been going back and forth the
last few days, been how cool that would have been. Secondly,
in terms of the nc double A, I didn't know
the NCAA said no to anything anymore because we're paying.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
People millions now, so all of a sudden, this is.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
A line, this is a hill they're gonna die on.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I mean, the NCAA has.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Become such a joke and for them to step up
in this circumstance go well, this is too far.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We can't be doing that just makes absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
No sense whatsoever. But you know, maybe from coach Prime
standpoint and Fran Brown at Syracuse, maybe they were kind
of laying the groundwork. I thought logistically would have been
tough to kind of get this thing.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Turned around in time for the spring game this year,
But maybe they're laying the groundwork for next year.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Who knows, well, Mark, This ruling is very confusing for
me because some of the reason the NCAA is signing,
why they disagree with both coaches, was the fact that
it is the spring and I may interfere with the
kids' education if I'm not mistaken. We see kids play
road games during the regular season.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
In football all the time.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
And I also throw this out there with the college
football playoffs expanding, those kids are.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Away from school.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So why is the NCAA, in your opinion, you think
that they've probably taken the stands on using the student
athlete rule.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Think of this for a second. Go back to when
I was in Syracuse, I call the National Championship with
Carmelnecker of A two thousand and three. I went back
after the tournament and look back. Instead of how much
we were on the road, I think we were on
the road thirty two out of thirty six days. Now,
now that's during the springtime of year, and so it's
a complete fallacy. I mean, that's just a joke to
(02:29):
make that kind of argument exactly right, What would have
it hurt for the Cues to fly out here and
spend a couple of days in a practice field, play
a spring game. You're gone for about three and a
half four days.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
The fact that that's what they're using at.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Their excuse as their excuse, it just kind of shows
the hypocrisy of this whole thing, because you know, in
one side.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Of your mouth they want to keep the amateur aspect
of it. The other side of the mound, they want
to kind of keep the academic aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Then when they were paying players millions of dollars, and
during this enda tournament which we'reight in the middle of
right now, the teams.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
That go to the final four are going to miss classes.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
NonStop for three weeks, and so there's no logic in that,
and that's just for something for them to default back to.
But like I just said, they're kind of losing their
teeth as time goes out of here, and so maybe
we'll see this. I think it's a brilliant idea of
the springtime kind of make sure that college football is
front of mind for a lot of people. The NFIL
does a great job of being a twelve month out
of the year topic. They're trying to do that with
(03:25):
college football, and I think it's a junior's idea with
the coaches, I agree talking.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
With Mark Johnson, Voice of the Buffs, and yeah, I'm
waiting for a school to just the NCAA to say
something like this in.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
A school to just look at them and say I
no longer recognize the authority of the NCAA as pattered.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
That's honestly, it feels like that's coming to a head
at some point, just given the ridiculousness.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Been a good news today though, coach Prim, so you
agree to contract extension through twenty twenty nine to five
years fifty four million dollars, making more of the highest
paid coaches in the NCAA. Whatever you think of coach Prime,
he certainly has put Colorado.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
On the map as a football destination. Do we have
any information on I'm a buyout on that and or
leaving for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I think in year one, from what I understand in.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Some of the details I've seen today, in the twenty
twenty five calendar year, I think it's a twelve million
dollar buyout, and then it starts to drop from that
point on I to ten or eleven, I think the
following year, and by the time you get the year
three and four and it's it's four five million dollars,
and so there's a substantial buyout on the front end.
I've never thought that if Prime were to leave, it
was going to be for another coaching job. I think
(04:27):
he loves Boulder. I did wonder when his sons were done.
If if that may, you know, if he may decide
to go and do something else, because he's got so
many different options out there. I've always thought if you
were to take off because of the magnitude of his personality,
it'd be for you know, Fox Sports or ESPN and
be on the pregame show. We're doing something along those lines.
So I love the fact that I've got him locked
(04:48):
in through twenty and twenty and I want to got
five seasons. Now they've gotten him locked in and now
having this.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Kind of financial and contractual security for him is.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Going to be an enormous boon when he's o trail
right now, because the last couple of years, I think
a lot of programs were using that against him, Hey
you don't want to go to Colorado because after Schadur
and Shoto were gone he's taken off. Well that's proven
to be wrong now, so this could really benefit him.
As good as the recruiting has been, I think it
can actually take a step up a notre two.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
You know, there were a couple of coaches coming into
year one for Coach Prime who were a little testy
about all the branding, the TV deals and.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Just kind of the showcase of the program.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
But with this deal kind of cementing Prime with Boulder
for about five years, how does this reposition the program
within itself?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, Nick, you know, the thing that's interesting about Pride
is as many feathers as he ruffled when he first
got here, he brought a new way of thinking, in
a new.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Approach to college football. It really was an NFL mindset.
Now what are we seeing is we've gotten through the
curve of a couple of years here. Other programs are
doing the same thing you're seeing. NFL hires all of
our college football bringing in general managers. I think this
once again is kind.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Of cements that idea that he's really.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
On the cutting edge of things. I'm told you, man,
and my dealings with him, I've never ceased to be
amazed with how attentive and perceptive he is about what
he's involved in and how we can make it better.
His mind is always thinking in that way he's done.
He's said things to me during some of the show
as a during commercial break, Hey, why can't we do this?
Or how about we try that kind of thing. He's
(06:23):
always thinking in that regard, and so it's you know,
just what we're just talking about this spring game idea
with Syracuse. I mean, this guy has got a phenomenal
forward view that he's pushing the envelope all the time.
So I think with this kind of security now within
this program locking him down for the next five season,
I think it really puts color out of in a
(06:43):
really unique and very positive position at college football.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Tyler mar Johnson Voice the Buffs.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You know, I think that what he's brought to the
table is almost the same thing to Pete Carroll did
all the way back at USC when he resurrected an
ascent USC program with sixteen sixty's first year. But you know,
kind of brought that in mentality, kind of made it
a fun thing, made it a cultural destination.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
And you know, I think that's the one thing everybody's.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Trying to say, well, hey, coach Prime's out there doing
this and doing that. I'm like, well, wait a minute,
this blueprint has sort of been tried before, and it
was wildly effective.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It was Pete Carroll that did it. Yeah, I think
you could make those parallels. You know, what Pete established
and what he did through that stretch when he was
in Los Angeles. I think Prime's taking that and now
and taking a handoff and run it further down the field.
I mean with what he's doing from a marketing and
the social media things that he's doing, and you know,
documentaries and.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
All the different things that he's got his fingers in
the fact that you can't watch a college football game
right now and really most other sporting events without seeing
Prime over the place.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I was walking through King Souper's the other day and you.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Know there's Prime in the front of my cart selling omens.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
For goodness sakes. I mean, you can't escape him right now.
He's an ever present personality in college football, and that's
that's only good for Colorado. But but he's taking this
whole NFL concept and really i think expanded it at
the college level, and I'm kind of excited to see
what he's see what he's thinking next.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Well, I know what coach Prime is thinking next, because
I know NIL is a whole big thing around college football,
and I wonder how much of this deal for five
years had a lot to do with NIL and increasing
that pool and a ward chess for coach Prime.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well and Nick, that's an interesting, I think.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Aspect of Palage football right now, because what the House
rule has got coming down on July first, you know,
these school is going to have roughly twenty one million
dollars are going to utilize for their athletic department for.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Paring student athletes. What does NIL play in that right
because right now what we have is not nil, it's
paid for play at.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
This point, so the collectives. Some schools have gotten rid
of the collectives. Some schools have not gotten rid of
the collectives. I think moving forward that we still don't
have a handle on what this system looks like. You know,
people keep talking about an NFL model, which are in
some respects from a payment standpoint, It's nothing like the
NFL right now. It's totally the wild wild West. And
by the way, just to quick aside, if you want
to see something interesting from this this.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
House rule and what this is going to do, keep
an eye on Big.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
East basketball moving forward. Twenty one million dollars in athletic
department without football, that they can take the line share and.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Apply to basketball, that's going to make an enormous impact
on what we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This time here in the NCAA tournament. Because I've been
told with a couple of my buddies in the SEC
that said that that reality is kind of hit in
the SEC and the Big ten, and they're like, wait
a minute, we can't we can't allow this to happen. Well,
it's happening, and it's gonna be what's happening.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's the thing about college athletics right now.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm not even sure how to predict anything because it's
so ever changing and ever moving and ever evolving at
this point. That is Mark.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
We always appreciate you taking the time to join us.
Went too quick. I got some questions for you next time,
already in the back of my mind about this Nile stuff.
We're at the time now. Appreciate you jumping on.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I look forward to you guys.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Thick there absolutely
What it back through a broncos country today, I'd mention
with Olbridan, Nick Ferguson Gratsmith here with you five six
sixt nine zero is the text line we're gonna write
out the KA comes from hotline though, and bring all
the voice of the buffs and the man who I
admittedly have voice envy of every single time I talk
about it, Mark Johnson, Mark, how you doing this evening?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
That could good to be on with you guys. It's
kind of an exciting day in Boulder, Colorado, isn't it. Well?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Bed, look at that you got the coach prime extension done,
so you had the opposit and then you had the
lows In the afternoon, his words sort of leaked out
the NC double A was quashing what I thought was
a great idea and having a controlled scrimmage with Syracuse.
Let's start with that last part. First, what do you
think of the NC DOUBLEA denying that the reasoning they
gave seemed fairly ludicrous to me, but perhaps you have
(00:44):
a different take on that.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, For first off, I was really.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Excited about that because remember I came from Syracuse here
to Colorado, so I've got connections on both sides. So
I thought it was fantastic and back the announcers from
Syracuse and I had been going back and forth the
last few days, been how cool that would have been. Secondly,
in terms of the nc double A, I didn't know
the NCAA said no to anything anymore because we're paying.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
People millions now, so all of a sudden, this is.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
A line, this is a hill they're gonna die on.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I mean, the NCAA has.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Become such a joke and for them to step up
in this circumstance go well, this is too far.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We can't be doing that just makes absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
No sense whatsoever. But you know, maybe from coach Prime
standpoint and Fran Brown at Syracuse, maybe they were kind
of laying the groundwork. I thought logistically would have been
tough to kind of get this thing.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Turned around in time for the spring game this year,
But maybe they're laying the groundwork for next year.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Who knows, well, Mark, This ruling is very confusing for
me because some of the reason the NCAA is signing,
why they disagree with both coaches, was the fact that
it is the spring and I may interfere with the
kids' education if I'm not mistaken. We see kids play
road games during the regular season.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
In football all the time.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
And I also throw this out there with the college
football playoffs expanding, those kids are.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Away from school.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So why is the NCAA, in your opinion, you think
that they've probably taken the stands on using the student
athlete rule.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Think of this for a second. Go back to when
I was in Syracuse, I call the National Championship with
Carmelnecker of A two thousand and three. I went back
after the tournament and look back. Instead of how much
we were on the road, I think we were on
the road thirty two out of thirty six days. Now,
now that's during the springtime of year, and so it's
a complete fallacy. I mean, that's just a joke to
(02:29):
make that kind of argument exactly right, What would have
it hurt for the Cues to fly out here and
spend a couple of days in a practice field, play
a spring game. You're gone for about three and a
half four days.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
The fact that that's what they're using at.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Their excuse as their excuse, it just kind of shows
the hypocrisy of this whole thing, because you know, in
one side.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Of your mouth they want to keep the amateur aspect
of it. The other side of the mound, they want
to kind of keep the academic aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Then when they were paying players millions of dollars, and
during this enda tournament which we'reight in the middle of
right now, the teams.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
That go to the final four are going to miss classes.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
NonStop for three weeks, and so there's no logic in that,
and that's just for something for them to default back to.
But like I just said, they're kind of losing their
teeth as time goes out of here, and so maybe
we'll see this. I think it's a brilliant idea of
the springtime kind of make sure that college football is
front of mind for a lot of people. The NFIL
does a great job of being a twelve month out
of the year topic. They're trying to do that with
(03:25):
college football, and I think it's a junior's idea with
the coaches, I agree talking.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
With Mark Johnson, Voice of the Buffs, and yeah, I'm
waiting for a school to just the NCAA to say
something like this in.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
A school to just look at them and say I
no longer recognize the authority of the NCAA as pattered.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
That's honestly, it feels like that's coming to a head
at some point, just given the ridiculousness.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Been a good news today though, coach Prim, so you
agree to contract extension through twenty twenty nine to five
years fifty four million dollars, making more of the highest
paid coaches in the NCAA. Whatever you think of coach Prime,
he certainly has put Colorado.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
On the map as a football destination. Do we have
any information on I'm a buyout on that and or
leaving for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I think in year one, from what I understand in.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Some of the details I've seen today, in the twenty
twenty five calendar year, I think it's a twelve million
dollar buyout, and then it starts to drop from that
point on I to ten or eleven, I think the
following year, and by the time you get the year
three and four and it's it's four five million dollars,
and so there's a substantial buyout on the front end.
I've never thought that if Prime were to leave, it
was going to be for another coaching job. I think
(04:27):
he loves Boulder. I did wonder when his sons were done.
If if that may, you know, if he may decide
to go and do something else, because he's got so
many different options out there. I've always thought if you
were to take off because of the magnitude of his personality,
it'd be for you know, Fox Sports or ESPN and
be on the pregame show. We're doing something along those lines.
So I love the fact that I've got him locked
(04:48):
in through twenty and twenty and I want to got
five seasons. Now they've gotten him locked in and now
having this.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Kind of financial and contractual security for him is.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Going to be an enormous boon when he's o trail
right now, because the last couple of years, I think
a lot of programs were using that against him, Hey
you don't want to go to Colorado because after Schadur
and Shoto were gone he's taken off. Well that's proven
to be wrong now, so this could really benefit him.
As good as the recruiting has been, I think it
can actually take a step up a notre two.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
You know, there were a couple of coaches coming into
year one for Coach Prime who were a little testy
about all the branding, the TV deals and.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Just kind of the showcase of the program.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
But with this deal kind of cementing Prime with Boulder
for about five years, how does this reposition the program
within itself?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, Nick, you know, the thing that's interesting about Pride
is as many feathers as he ruffled when he first
got here, he brought a new way of thinking, in
a new.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Approach to college football. It really was an NFL mindset.
Now what are we seeing is we've gotten through the
curve of a couple of years here. Other programs are
doing the same thing you're seeing. NFL hires all of
our college football bringing in general managers. I think this
once again is kind.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Of cements that idea that he's really.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
On the cutting edge of things. I'm told you, man,
and my dealings with him, I've never ceased to be
amazed with how attentive and perceptive he is about what
he's involved in and how we can make it better.
His mind is always thinking in that way he's done.
He's said things to me during some of the show
as a during commercial break, Hey, why can't we do this?
Or how about we try that kind of thing. He's
(06:23):
always thinking in that regard, and so it's you know,
just what we're just talking about this spring game idea
with Syracuse. I mean, this guy has got a phenomenal
forward view that he's pushing the envelope all the time.
So I think with this kind of security now within
this program locking him down for the next five season,
I think it really puts color out of in a
(06:43):
really unique and very positive position at college football.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Tyler mar Johnson Voice the Buffs.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You know, I think that what he's brought to the
table is almost the same thing to Pete Carroll did
all the way back at USC when he resurrected an
ascent USC program with sixteen sixty's first year. But you know,
kind of brought that in mentality, kind of made it
a fun thing, made it a cultural destination.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
And you know, I think that's the one thing everybody's.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Trying to say, well, hey, coach Prime's out there doing
this and doing that. I'm like, well, wait a minute,
this blueprint has sort of been tried before, and it
was wildly effective.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It was Pete Carroll that did it. Yeah, I think
you could make those parallels. You know, what Pete established
and what he did through that stretch when he was
in Los Angeles. I think Prime's taking that and now
and taking a handoff and run it further down the field.
I mean with what he's doing from a marketing and
the social media things that he's doing, and you know,
documentaries and.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
All the different things that he's got his fingers in
the fact that you can't watch a college football game
right now and really most other sporting events without seeing
Prime over the place.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I was walking through King Souper's the other day and you.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Know there's Prime in the front of my cart selling omens.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
For goodness sakes. I mean, you can't escape him right now.
He's an ever present personality in college football, and that's
that's only good for Colorado. But but he's taking this
whole NFL concept and really i think expanded it at
the college level, and I'm kind of excited to see
what he's see what he's thinking next.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Well, I know what coach Prime is thinking next, because
I know NIL is a whole big thing around college football,
and I wonder how much of this deal for five
years had a lot to do with NIL and increasing
that pool and a ward chess for coach Prime.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well and Nick, that's an interesting, I think.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Aspect of Palage football right now, because what the House
rule has got coming down on July first, you know,
these school is going to have roughly twenty one million
dollars are going to utilize for their athletic department for.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Paring student athletes. What does NIL play in that right
because right now what we have is not nil, it's
paid for play at.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
This point, so the collectives. Some schools have gotten rid
of the collectives. Some schools have not gotten rid of
the collectives. I think moving forward that we still don't
have a handle on what this system looks like. You know,
people keep talking about an NFL model, which are in
some respects from a payment standpoint, It's nothing like the
NFL right now. It's totally the wild wild West. And
by the way, just to quick aside, if you want
to see something interesting from this this.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
House rule and what this is going to do, keep
an eye on Big.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
East basketball moving forward. Twenty one million dollars in athletic
department without football, that they can take the line share and.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Apply to basketball, that's going to make an enormous impact
on what we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This time here in the NCAA tournament. Because I've been
told with a couple of my buddies in the SEC
that said that that reality is kind of hit in
the SEC and the Big ten, and they're like, wait
a minute, we can't we can't allow this to happen. Well,
it's happening, and it's gonna be what's happening.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's the thing about college athletics right now.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm not even sure how to predict anything because it's
so ever changing and ever moving and ever evolving at
this point. That is Mark.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
We always appreciate you taking the time to join us.
Went too quick. I got some questions for you next time,
already in the back of my mind about this Nile stuff.
We're at the time now. Appreciate you jumping on.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I look forward to you guys.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Thick there absolutely
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