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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ferguson Grant Smith here with you. Five six six nine
zero is the text line. Shout out to everybody on
the text line by the way station from Utah. I
got Brian out there, several of them. We got to
let's see the seven two to oh says the Raiders
got a thousand problems that holes on their team. But
he did say Jeremy Chimp was a baller. But he's like,
they got four players. We gotta smoke them. I hope
they take Chanty because they got no trenches on both
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sides of the ball outside of Max Crosby. Oh you're
Christian Wilkins.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Too, So the Raiders have some guys, but I wouldn't
definitely wish for that. We see what JITs can do
in college football, and I just trust the mind of
Pete Carrow and uh, what's the.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
What's the chick Kelly?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah right, they're gonna find a ways to kind of
squeeze every ounce of juice.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Out of their players.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So listen, I'm not saying that the Raiders are going
to beat the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm not saying that, but they're gonna be toper out.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
They're gonna there's gonna be some competitive games, so we'll
be ready for it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
That Let's go to the k Wait Commas Telt hotline
to bring on our guy Parker, Gabriel Parker, how you
doing this sevening?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm doing great. You gotta doing all right?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We're sweating the Raiders a little bit, man. Uh you
know a lot of talking as to Chanty.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Going to the to the Raiders and uh, you know
you got Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly out there. Man, it
just feels like they're gonna be a tougher rout than
they've been in recent years.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, I think there too. I mean I think I
think maybe been one of the nights you were out.
I think Nick and I were actually talking about this
like they have. They've had a nice offseason like that.
They and I think it's just sort of the core
competency thing, right, Like Pete Carroll, you just don't really
think that they're they're going to be a pushover under
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Pete Carroll and obviously you know John Spytech as the
general manager pairing there and then to convince Max Crossey
to stay and to get the quarterback in in Gino Smith.
I mean, that's just that's a good start now. It
doesn't mean that they're one player away or that you
know whatever, Like I think they still have a long
way to go building, but you know they're they're going
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to be a problem, and sort of the way even
maybe in twenty twenty three were definitely last year you
looked at the Broncos and said, man, like they are
sort of firmly headed in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I wouldn't be.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Surprised if when we get to the end of the
twenty twenty five season you think somewhat similarly about the writers.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
All right, Paul, I have to ask you about this
because this mod draft it drives me crazy and I
can't wait till we gets in the draft to get
it over with. But do you have a mod draft?
And if you do, what rendition of it are you
at right now?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I've done one so far, I think, and so I
think I don't know in the next one. I think
I have to do one more, at least before the
actual draft. So I believe I'm just on one point zero,
which put me way behind about like seventeen four and
sixty four other mock drafters.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So okay, now that you've completed one, what do you
have the Broncos doing at twenty.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I had them. I did this after the first week
of free agency so I could sort of see how
the roster came together, And even after the first week
of free agency, I had them taking Colson Lovelands. Now
I think it's an open question whether he'll actually be
available at twenty, but I didn't. I just for as
much as I'm an Ingram fits what they want to
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do and all of that, Like, I just don't think
it takes away the need or the wants to add
a guy who can be a really dynamic, you know,
path catcher at that position. And I just I wouldn't
be surprised that the right guys obviously got to be there.
But I guess it's just the Ingram signing didn't move
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me off of thinking that that's still an area that
they'll want to address early in the draft.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I completely agree, and I'm not saying that they'll take
a tight end right there, and I'm not sure Loveland's
our guy, but I completely agree they need somebody who
has the ability to play in line because Evan Ingram's
just not that guy.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Mean, he's a heavy slot guy.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
He barely plays twenty percent of his snaps from in line,
and so you're gonna have to find you have to
find somebody who has the ability to do that. I
would not be surprised. I mean if if Amrian Hanson
was there at twenty and then you come back in
a second round with a Mason Taylor, you know, I
wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised or something like that.
But there's a there's a going a growing theory something
I approached on this show a few weeks ago, and
it's kind of growing. I think in these mock draft
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communities that the Giants are trying to get Travis Hunter
at three and then trade back up and get Shador
if he slides.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Twenty would be a perfect spot to.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Trade up a few of the Giants because it puts
you right in front of Pittsburgh. Who's in that quarterback
market might be looking at your door, might be looking
at Jackson Dark. What do you think about the idea
of the Broncos possibly trading out of the first round
in this draft?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, I would. I wouldn't mind it now, obviously, you know,
it depends on how sort of like where you are
in your bell curve of talent right, But I think,
like we heard George S. Payton say this. He made
a joke actually in Palm Beach earlier this week on Monday,
when he said, like, I don't bring the trade down
scenarios to Sean until the day out, because there's no
point in even like trying to get him to lit
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into it before it's right in front of them. But
you know, like, I think they're in the part of
the draft, especially if you think that this year there's
maybe slightly fewer number of like true first round talents,
but also that there's a pretty nice set of sort
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of starter caliber players after that. Like, I think, I
don't think that's a bad idea, especially if you're and
I don't know exactly what the Giants capital looks like,
but especially if you're adding you know, a second round
if you can get a second round pick, or if
you can add two extra picks, or you know, if
it's right at the top of round three, like those
are areas where you can do some damage. And I
think the other thing it does is it gives you,
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you know, ammunition to potentially, let's say you're drafting right
at the top of the second round, then to move
up from fifty one, if you want to do that
as well, you've got a couple of extra you know,
chips to do that with. So that area, it seems
to me that like it's possible to have multiple options
of players they like at twenty and also that there's
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a bunch of guys they could really use that probably
won't be there by fifty one, and so maybe somewhere
in between there is a good area to try to operate.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You know, Parker, I'm a you know, big fan of
familiarity and trying to make life easier for your players
from a coaching standpoint, and I can't help but think about,
you know, Bo Nicks, because obviously, with his success last
year and the team going to the playoffs, everything is
based on setting him up for success. And with that
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being said, there's a young guy in this upcoming draft.
I was really talking about him a lot, but he
is familiar with Bo, and Bo is familiar with him,
and that's has Johnson.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Do you could you envision.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
The situation maybe late in the draft that the Broncos
said with Tedz Johnson is still on the board, just
go out and get someone that Bo really knows, and
he knows bo as well.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I mean, you know Nick may late in the draft.
I just I was, you know, he's small and like
when you watch him, like he is a great watch,
Like he makes people miss. He's dynamite in the open fields.
All of that. He was one hundred and fifty four
pounds at the combine. I mean, he's thirty pounds wider
than Marvin Mems. And what Sean Payton says, you know
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about small wide receivers. You know, he always says, it's
not that we don't like small receivers, it's just that
small receivers have to walk on water. And so like
maybe they think that about Ted Johnson, Like his ten
yards split, the cone drills were all really good. He
ran four or five to one at one hundred and
fifty four pounds. Like, I'm just I'm not sure about
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that one. I'll give you a different name that bow
Nick would be familiar with. Dante Thornton Junior. He's a
wide receiver, finished his career at Tennessee with at Oregon
before that is the guy who ran four to three.
He's six', four not polished at. All but if you
were asking me about a day three flyer type of
guy that Bo nix is familiar. WITH i might give
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you a guy who's six' five and can really run
rather than a guy that's one hundred and fifty four
pounds you can.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Really run Talk With parker Gabriel AT. Parker j Gabriela
on twitter For the broncos for The. Dever, tion yeah
one hundred fifty five pound guys are MAKING. The nfl
i'd like to throw my hat back in, the ring,
you know If we're if we're, Doing that i'm just
just put it, out There although i'm a little over
that weight, right now mostly in the.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Belly area as we look at, this then as we.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Look at this thing and started to get down, to
it the ONLY thing i, MEAN like i would be
surprised if they did not come away with a running
back at a tight end out of their first, three picks
but the other pick, IN there i would not be
surprised if they went to the, defensive line and that
might even be the first thing they wind, up taking
just depending on the way things fall out of. This
draft how surprised would you be If the broncos took a?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Defensive?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Line yeah, ZERO surprised I, THINK ben I mean i
think we may have talked about this LAST time i. Was,
ON like i THINK if i were doing, you know
mock draft two point zero, Right now i'd be tempted
to put, you Know The dereck Harmon Or, walter nolan someone,
Like That, shamar stewart if you think maybe, you know
the production causes him to not go where the, athletic
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traits maybe you would have him go up closer to the.
Top ten one of, Those, guys like none of those
guys would really surprise me in the. First round and,
you Know The, ted thomson the late former general manager
Of The Green, bay packers would, say about, you know
big guys generally taken in the. First round The good
lord only made. So many and, that's like that's kind
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of the principle early in the draft is you take
traits and players that. Are rare, and now, you know
Maybe the broncos Believe that Omar and hampton, is rare
and if that's, the, case great go. For it, you
know maybe they think That a mechagbuka. IS rare i
sort of, doubt it but like, that's great go. For
it but by, and large where you see coaches and
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general managers shen toured in, these directions a lot are
defensive Lineman ed rusher's, offensive lineman guys that you don't
just walk down the, and, say, like yep there's a
guy who's six for five and three hundred and fifteen
pounds and runs sub five and. The forty so it
wouldn't surprise me at all if that was the direction
they ended. Up going and certainly it wouldn't surprise ME
if i think you're right then on running back and
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tight end in the first three with the first, Three
picks but if the other ones a, DEFENSIVE lineman i
think that would make a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Of, sense now this is a time of year where
a lot of players are having their. Pro Day Cues
pro day is TOMORROW and csu Had their, pro Day
And tory horton is another. Wide receiver well what does
this Say about horton AND The Csu rams when You,
know bronco a Couple of broncos, coaches, decide hey let's
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go ahead and make that drive and let's go check
out this Young Receiver.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Tory, HORTON yeah I mean i think it says he
sort of fits the mold of What the broncos just
generally look for in. Wide, receivers he's, you know big.
Long receiver obviously he's got. College production he's right here in.
The backyard and so like Guys That, kerry Colbert the broncos,
receivers coach went up there to be a pro day
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today and watch like obviously there's a lot of guys
at wide receiver in the, draft nowadays and, it's about,
you know just thinking about as the draft goes on
through days two. And three, you know it's about teams
identifying the guys that can. Really play and so you've
got a couple different flavors today and Tomorrow With tory
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horton and then some, smaller guys but guys that you
know a little bit more In The ted, johnson mold
although Bigger, than ted guys that are much smaller but
are electric in the. Open Field With jimmy Horn And
lejhonte WESTER at cu working, OUT tomorrow u.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Talk About parker Gabriel at Parker j gabriel On. On
twitter is.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
There any anybody that you WOULD be i don't want to,
say upset but maybe disappointed If the broncos drafted in the.
First leg, for me there is a player the wide
Receiver as Arizona, technic millan and if they, TOOK that
i would be disappointed in them if they. Took that
and to be HONEST with i think he's gonna be
there and possibly there. Much later but is there any
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player to you that, you're, like man it's just does
not fit what they've been talking about or what.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
They, do oh that's a. GOOD question. I hadn't i
hadn't really thought about it in. THOSE terms. I don't
i don't, Think SO like i would be in part
for like the, Fan reaction like, You know I'm not
i'm not a fan of, the team so like at
the end of, the DAY like i don't really care
what they do or just cover it and sort of try,
to understand, you know what they're going for sort of
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like regardless of. What happens but like there's part of
me that thinks that after, free AGENCY like i think
tight end is still a need after. FREE agency i
would be more inclined to tell YOU that i Really Liked,
jihad campbell the inside lineback From, from Alabama and i'm
Interested in Nick, aman Worri the giant Safety From. South
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carolina i'm not sure that either of those guys are
the first. Round, PICK like i don't know they would
have done. It anyways i'm not sure either of those
guys makes sense after what they did in, free AGENCY
but i would be interested if they took one of,
those guys both because it would mean at those positions
that they think those guys are absolute, game changers and
also just to like sort of see what the fan reaction.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Would Be parker Gabel AT. PARKER j gabrielw are you
gonna be out At The pro? Day tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I'm Not we're we will be well, Staffed Though sean
keeler will, Be There, luca evans our, new guy will,
be THERE so i Think Probably opening day For the,
rockies too though between, see you, you Know this pro
Showcase And opening day that will chew up most Of
The Post sports department's, resources, tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well we look forward to seeing those guys out there.
That can i'll be out there tell them swing. On
by as, As, always parker call, You shot broncos doing
what at twenty As of we'll call this mock one
point Five For Parker gabrol, right.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Now, all right mock one. Point five.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
There's part there's part. Of me the other day they
was thinking Like maybe i'll just have Them Taking. Travon
henderson he just seems like exactly what.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
They like and.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Running backs but RIGHT now i Will Say.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Derek, harmon okay, All right i'm.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
With it that's that's The name I've heard vandy. About
too so we'll put that one up here on. The
board mark? Are we we appreciate it, as, Always. Guys
Absolutely Park jay gabriel From The. Denver post find Him
On Twitter Parker, jay gabriel, new dad. New father congratulations
To Uh parker gabro.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
For that good.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
For, HIM yeah i just have to ask you real
QUICK BECAUSE i I Booked Keeler sean keeler for the
yesterday for the, show YESTERDAY but i didn't get to hear.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
The interview how? Was that it was. Pretty good we
had a.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Good time we were. Sitting there we had a pretty
good time. Talking nuggets most. Of it talked a little
bit of a SeaBus.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Because i know he's kind of been banned. From speaking
he's gonna be out, THERE tomorrow, i. GUESS so, i,
guess so well he's.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Out there maybe you don't hang out at, Our table
but we, love you but maybe stay away.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
From him maybe just stay down the road just a. Little,
bit yea if you want to get, You know i'm
going to go To, a wait we don't want, To
said i'm not excited to get kicked out of. The, building, no, no, NO.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Dude i did not know the story you were telling
us about the kid that did stab the other.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Kid, detracting yeah that guy stabbing his Name Was. Carmelo, anthony.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay okay SO when i first heard the story and
They Said, carmelo anthony my eyes immediately were drawn to, the, televisions,
like no say.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
This is in so the same days going under? The
basket who would? Do that AND then, i, realized no
it is NOT The Nba.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
CARMELO anthony I just i, was, like man what a
Thing Like carmelo anthony finally Makes the Hall of fame
and then somebody Else Named carmelo anthony has to come
steal the spotlight on the.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Exact.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Day, Yeah man and the situation within itself. Very tragic
you got two families who are kind of going through it,
right NOW and i couldn't imagine losing a sun the
way that they lost their their Son and it's it's
kind of wild to just kind of tell you what
time we're In, and grant when YOU and i were
(15:55):
talking about this, off air it's just like it's almost
like individuals don't really value.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Life anymore, it's. Crazy, man yeah it's KIND of i got.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
One something it blew my MIND because i was you
were tell us about THIS story i thin during the
break And now.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I'm reading up.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
On it, and wait this kid's Name Is carmelo anthony WITH. A,
k yeah we just got through TALKING about i?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Feel, bad WOW not i? Feel BAD the nfl six
pack would?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Come back.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Actually brought those country tonight With Old Brian Dick.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Ferguson, Grants miss actually you're stepping in TIME the nfl.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Six pack it is time FOR the nfl.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
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Speaker 3 (16:38):
Else no six the TOP six. Nfl Headline?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
What Today the Raiders And geno smith agreed to a
two year Extension With gino smith worth seventy. Five Million
if gino plays like he Did, in seattle how would
you grade this acquisition By? The raiders now that we
know the, final cost that being the seventy five million
along with the third, Round pick and Where would gino
rank among The best raiders quarterbacks of the twenty, first
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century assuming again He, Is.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Seattle, china.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Well as far as, THE acquisition, i mean that's a
cost of. Doing business they identified, a guy they do what.
They wanted they paid what it took to. Get him
they paid him what it took to get him. THAT
money i mean the base on that's like WHAT thirty
i think at thirty, point five that's not that's not.
THAT much, i mean if you're making less, than THAT
like i, Don't Know, austin fields you probably pretty. Much
suck so thirty point five is a low end of starting.
QUARTERBACK money i don't think it's a big. A deal
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the question is who is he and what? IS he
i think he's a good Fit For chip, Kelly's offense but,
you know how much does he have left that kind?
Of thing? Is he, you know is he still the
guy who Was? In seattle if he is hey and
believe he looked like he was. LAST year i mean
he wasn't, as good but he was throwing the ball
fifty sixty times, a game And At ryan. Grubb OFFENSE
so i think it's a. GOOD acquisition i don't have anything, against.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
It, YOU know i don't have anything against it.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
At all but to, your question and when you look
At the raiders QUARTERBACK.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
And i, had to, you know look, THIS up i
mean it.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
IS rough i would Say That, derek carr even though
he gets a lot, to play he had them on
the precipice of doing some great things until he.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Got injured that pick here in twenty fourteen or, TWENTY
fifteen i think it was where where he was IN
the mvp compo absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Right now when you look at the, OTHER quarterbacks i
mean You Got, Jeff Hosteler, JEFF.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
George I Mean rick Meyer And. Marcus russell that was
just the two thousands. Coming back oh, My, GOD yes i.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Do is just go out there and just play a
solid couple, of games and he's better than those guys.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Just the last.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Three, Years, Gardner minshew, Ain't O'Connell, Desmond Rider, jimmy garoppolo,
Remember That, Brian Hoyer jarrett stidham was, was there he
got two starts For the he was the spark For
the raiders before he's the spark For, The broncos, MATT MCGLOYD.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
E j manuel started a game for all prior started.
Nine games remember.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
That Nonsense, Kyle Bowler, Jason campbell Bruce, kat Kowski And
Marcus Russell.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Charlie fry that is a who's? Who who well you.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
If you want to compare him, To anyone now you
got to go back To Rich.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Gannet yeah was the. Man though that has to be.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Somewhat of the litmus Tess for gino to see how
well he Repositioned this.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Raiders team another interesting detail with, His Contract jared stidham
now The Only russell wilson backup still active in the
league to not be making more money.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Than him, two interesting let's get a lot of back
wait for.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
That one.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
What's last time you told me don't take it Easy?
On ben and now and now you're TELLING me i
couldn't wait for?
Speaker 6 (19:29):
That, WAY hey i needed to defend myself to it
easy double, eight hitter just.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Stepping into the major or something far up. The fastball
see here she might have.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Motivated Me, here Today The arizona cardinals Signed to trey
McBride to a, four year seventy six million dollars deal
also known as seven and A Half russell wilson contracts that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Makes him the highest paid tight END in.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Nfl history what do you think of this price for
McBride and how big of a bargain are the elite
tight ends now with the wide receiver market alluding to
forty million. Plus, YEAR yeah i mean that, it is
and that's that's if you can find a pass a
primary pass catcher, like that, that's uh you know that's a,
tight end then you can you can get those kinds
of deals and save that kind of money unless you're
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you Like The New york tests where you're gonna have
to load up on receivers to carry your. Crappy quarterback
uh That the steelers didn't even want that you signed To,
be uh that you signed to be your your starter
in terms, Of, Traffic brian good.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
For him good For the colorado.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Kid getting uh getting paid over the course of. His
career he's already gotwent tw, hundred yards. Six touchdowns he's,
YOU know, i mean as he gets, more work he'll
get more uh. Statistical ACCOMPLISHMENT arizona i think is a
sleeper in that division. THIS year i really do believe
they're gonna be a sleeper in. That division they loaded
up on that, defensive line they're gonna be a much better.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
FOOTBALL team i.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Like McBride coming out, of college and he was one
of those GUYS that i was hoping That the broncos
would definitely uh.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Pick UP but i mean every.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Year we see some some positional player changing the market
for the group. And trade mcbar bride definitely has done
it for the tight. End POSITION but i like the
direction of words going because everything about the league is
a vertical, passing game and we hear so much about
the wild receivers that we forget about the, tight ends
(21:10):
which we did not really see With. The, broncos well
one time we Saw was National Tight. Ends day well
maybe this would start somewhat of a.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Different, trend yeah a few, Years Back travis kelsey had
to reset the market to get it up to the.
Higher teams AND now i Feel Like brock bowers coming down,
the pipe he'll be the one to get it into
the mid.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Upper twenty that'll be a. MASSIVE contract i just serve
that will.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Three field yates released a two round, mock draft his
first two round mock draft of the CYCLE.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
For.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Espn today he Has The denver Broncos landing Amari and
hampton in the first round running back Out Of, north
carolina who he both just talked about in the, last
Hour And, elijah arroyo the tight end Out of miami
in the. Second round what would you two think? Of
that hall in the first two rounds of the draft
For The. DENVER broncos i it Depends Was mason taylor
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Available when royo. Was taken, IF so I would i
would have to take that LOWER because I. Believe taylor
he went in the top, Forty, years okay Because because
taylor does Things that. Royo doesn't royo is not an.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Inline player he's another, you know he's kind Of an
ingram clone in the sense that he's more of an
off the, line y, bigger slot, you know the flexed out.
Type guy maybe he can, learn that but he just
doesn't offer you much in terms of Blocking where.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Taylor Does and taylor's got the.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
LINEAGE too, i Mean It's jason, Taylor's Kid Zach zach,
thomas's nephew.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
YOU know, i mean he just he just.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
OFFERS more I wouldn't i wouldn't be mad. At that
you certainly feel some Positions. ALTHOUGH royo i don't think
is the type of tight end they be. Looking, FOR
again i think they want somebody who can play.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
On line taylor went forty two To the jets on the,
mock draft so off the board, for.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Me this would be a thing of beauty for me
Because the broncos get a. Running back EVEN though i
would have selected another, running back you still get another
physical running back catch the ball out of the. Back
trail but being able to Pick A, BELIJAH royo i
mean when he Was, AT miami i would like watching. Him,
play yes he has, some injuries but, when healthy you,
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get him get the.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Ball to him between, the hashes the dude.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
CAN go, I know ben say didn't like it because
now you don't have somewhat of an inline block and.
TIGHT end i don't Get too nicholas, about that because
we're gonna fletch, You out we're gonna.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Run you up off.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
The field it is almost like a, Track, team ben
you need a four by. One team you need to
be able to run people out of this. Cell package you.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Know who else had a four by one, Hundred Team
the Raiders Under. Al davis that? Was different Does different
blody track? Me today. Go, Outside now i'm. WITH you
i think you might need an. Inline guy but you
can have a royal Learn under ingram for. A year
you can get out of that contract after a, single
season And.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Then ARROYO like i can learn, under him do this space,
and pace run him off. THE field i like It
Or the.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Patriots Traded, joe milton the freakishly athletic quarterback that started
in the preseason and in the last regular season game Against,
the bills backup To The. Dallas cowboys they sent a
seventh round pick Along With joe milton and received a
fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
In return what do you make of? This trade and
do You think dak could be.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
In Trouble in dallas as the silly touches are, saying.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Now he's not even the least bit. Of trouble milton kind,
of flashed, you know a little bit in the game.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
He played he was put twenty two of twenty nine
two forty one in. A, touchdown nope, no interceptions didn't take.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
A sack there's a little bit of. Something there he's
got a rocket for.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
An arm as far as a backup and developmental Guy,
for dallas bully for him as far As Threatening, dak
prescott not.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Even, slightly now this is a great.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Move for dallas to get a guy with a similar
skill set to That Of. Dak prescott so when you
look at the offense the backup ever had to, come in.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
You don't really have to change. That much and then when.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
You look at the fact that You Lost, cooper rush
you need an. Adequate back at most teams and most
play people, and fans they don't put a lot of
stack in the backup quarterbacks until.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
You actually need one when you start and. Gets INJURED
so i like.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
This move but they're there is no reason to Think
that milton is going to take Over For.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Dak prescott THAT'S too i fully agree. THAT said i
wonder about.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
This move it feels a lot Like The trey lance
move where they're maybe paying a bit of a premium
for this tools he backup instead of just signing a cheap.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
One off the.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
OPEN market, I Mean carson wentz is out there could
have gone. THAT route i wonder if this is going
to be a repeat Of The trey lan situition where
they kind of don't end up getting anything out of.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
This investment maybe, you know THERE'S not, i mean there's.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Not gonna be reps for them on the FIELD if da.
Gets hurt.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
So five josh McDaniels said in a recent interview that
he hopes his in season fire. Or sorry he thinks
his in season firing From the raiders last year or
two years ago was a blessing in disguise because it
allowed him to reevaluate. His approach do you believe we
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will be getting a brand new Version of josh McDaniels
in foxborough?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
This stay it's not even.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
A little this guy's been fired mid season, several times
fired mid Season with broncos and it didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Take them he got fired, MID season, i believe didn't
get fired From the rams. Mid season what, he SAID
see i CAN'T remember i was.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Terrible, OFFENSES yeah i mean it's you, know no he's
not gonna change Anything about him's always been, an arrogant
condescending you. Know what and he's gonna continue to be,
an arrogant condescending you. Know what and as somebody who's
familiar with being, an arrogant condescending you, know what we don't.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Change that leopard is not changing.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
His, Spots man it's not it's more or less, lip
SERVICE because, i mean if You've seen josh mcgames in
the places that, HE'S gone, i mean what is. Really
changed remember this is the same guy that Told, the,
coats yeah you Know what. I'm coming he's got all
these other coaches who decided to leave the jobs that
they have following him To, the coats only for him
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to go you, Know what, April.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Fools i'm JUST.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Kidding jk, it's, like no, come, on hey well that
proves he.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Can change, you know that's a pretty big change. Right
there i'm gonna be your, Head Coach john not that's.
A pigore are you worried at All For drake may in,
this spot you know now being Entered By. JOSH mantangiels
i don't know if he's really roomed a young quarterback
Outside Of, tom Brady but brady was kind of a
developed product by the time he GOT THAT O s.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
FOOT job i.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
DON'T know, i, mean like you'll either adapt to. THE all,
I mean josh McDaniels has coordinated some, decent Offenses And
mike rabel will either, you know he'll either do It
Or mike rabel. Punt him he's already got A Guy
todd downing there waiting in. The wings so THAT'S what
i would really start to get worried if wide Receivers
Coach todd downing suddenly becomes.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Coc sick nobody drags An offense downing like. Top doubting
was he the one who took Over for Hackett In
new york? This, lesson yes he's also the Guy.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That Yeah he downing has had a career that offensive
coordator in, multiple spots Including the Raiders, and titans and
was terrible.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
AT all I think I think i've seen photos of
him in the headlines.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
At points.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Last one for you guys here, This weekend channel nine
Here in denver will be airing a Special About. Dave,
logan yes life and career are very own HERE at
koa Voice. Of lebroncos what aspect Of this nver legend's
life are you more excited to learn more about through
This nine?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
News, Specially well i'm excited for fans to.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
LEARN about i think People in colorado mostly Know that
dave's the legendary athlete drafted multiple. Professional leagues he was
drafted In By Major. League baseball he Starts. Place red's
he was drafted IN, the nba he was drafted IN.
The nfl dave was one of the few Kind Of,
dave winfield one of the few multi sports stars that,
were really, you know a multi true multi sports star
back in. The day he chose to focus on, on football,
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you know and THINGS that i don't think that we'll
get mentioned In this they'll go over.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
His accomplishments BUT like i wouldn't be here if it
Wasn't For.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Dave Logan dave logan has been one of my biggest
champions as far as this kind of, stuff Goes and
dave's always been great. To ME and i, think that,
you know the Stuff that dave does behind the scenes
to help, ELEVATE people i think that's that's the biggest
part that could probably get left out of. This Thing
but i'm excited for people to Relearn About.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Dave logan see the Part Of dave LOGAN that i
want to know the. Most about we're not going to hear.
ANYTHING about i want to go back To those cleveland
days when he had.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
THAT mustache.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I want to go back to that those days and
get some of those behind, scenes stories, you know with
him being Teammates With, bill coward see some of those
things you can't err.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
On TELEVISION but i would love To. Be, JOHN yeah
i want.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Double stories you can keep all that, kiddy, stuff right
keep that for.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
The kids give me the, Others though THAT'S what. I
want i think that's where the. Gold is there's some
Golden nose. Hills neck he did with A Certain cleveland
browns ball Boy Named. Nate hackett.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Wow interesting, Back then i'd trusted that would Be very.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
That was a BALL boy i h dave to me just.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
STANDS out i was with CHAST before i came Here,
to koa and he stands out is not only obviously
the greatest or one of the most legendary high school
football coaches in, the state but just high school sports.
IN general, i was, you know going through a lot of,
their records building up on, you know just to s
satistical record bases and how many championships different coaches and
whatnot go across all the.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Different sports and he's up there among the very, very
best absolute legend and that. Right, too yeah it's such.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
A passion for helping the kids out and and that
that part of, it too not just, you know it's
such as these great calling games or bet a talk
show host or was a. Great added dave has pretty
much succeeded everything he's, ever done and so it's gonna
be fascinating to watch this thing and kind, of, SEE
oh i, didn't know you know that kind of stuff
and that's. In There but i'm sure It'll be i'm
sure it'll be great. For me THE thing i keep
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SAYING is i just hope people understand that he is
a genuine person through.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
And through that's not a front that he puts on for.
A buddy dave is.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
THAT dude.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
I can't wait to see some of those old highlights of.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
That hair and.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Mustache COMBO though i never tell you KNOW the NBA
two k how you can play the old eras back
then when they get the draft classes, dating back you
can actually play there's the one. He's got it's got it.
In there he's got the surfer hair and the mustache and.
Off guard you can draft Off Guard dave logan in
those video game. DRAFT classes i, SAID him i, drafted
him AND then i just benched him how. To spotnompkin
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you're never seeing the floor On My never logan Blame
to milwaukee for a back of, Potatoes, right yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
That.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Is wild dave was he's one.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Of the biggest punt returners IN N C double a
history because he was he.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
WAS back i thought.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
He's massive it's like a like a six four to
two twenty punt returner back in.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
The day and see you one of the biggest punt
returns all.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
THE time i did hear rumor FROM e a speaking
of WHICH that i think they're trying to put him
in THE New NC double a game as one of
the legends of the SCHOOLS. For ceu so we'll see
if that comes. To FRUITION but i did hear a
rumor about that from my GUY.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
TO a i would. Love, that, sorry man that'd be. So,
cool yeah so that'd, be yeah You put.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You guys are focusing on the stuff that you know
matters but doesn't, really matter doesn't matter, at all. BUT
cool i wanted to, other, stuff man.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
THE school i can't hear any of that On.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Nine news.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You gotta get To The Red Shoe dave logan diaries,
for that, you know brawling with a coach on, the
sideline how?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
About that ye get? After dark i'm here. For that
did you did he.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Ever told you that brawl over THE an nfl coach.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
On the, oh, yeah yeah you said that on the air.
Off here he told me that. Off Though, there yeah any,
trade secrets but you know yea back of the, day dude.
You're wild he lived.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Some lives he's lived, some lives the, broadcasting career, of
course and we'll see you bust being a legend there
in his. Own Right THE Browns, nba draft all. That
stuff you used To call? Nuggets games did?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
You?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
REALLY yep i didn't know that used To call. Nuggets
games well you.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Can learn all about him also On The taking It
for cranted.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Podcast on the new episode or is that the? Old
one a couple?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Of?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Months ok?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
ALL right i didn't know if it Was Another dave
logan episode, Coming Up david smith or some jealous. As
hell so he listened to The broadcos Country.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
To Nikes are you're okay with