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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Those country tonight, Benjamin Olbrien here with you. We've been
airing our coverage from live down at the Colorado Showcase today.
A lot of fun, myself Nick Ferguson down there, of course,
justin Adams.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We've got a lot of these interviews. We interviewed quite
a few.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I think we had four or five players, including a
punter that ran a four six five. We'll get to
that here the next segment. I can't get enough of
punter interviews. I know you guys can't get enough, especially
when they're Australian, right, So a lot of those. We
got bj Green, who the crumble Cookie Officionado.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You guys want to stay tuned for that.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
That was a good interview as well as well as
one guy on one of these interviews. I'm not gonna
say which one, but one of these interviews I firmly
believe as a target for the Denver Broncos in this
coming draft. So you guys will have to figure out
which one that is. I think it'll be pretty easy
to figure out if you listen. But I do believe
that they are a Day three target for the Denver
Broncos in this draft. So you want to stay tuned
for that as well. We got a chance to talk
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to former Titans general manager Ran Carthon. We're gonna air
that interview here in just a few minutes. He was
gracious to not have to carve out like twelve minutes
with us, which is for for a guy who played
it was was a general manager.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's I mean huge, so uh for us that was
that was big.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Five six, six nine zeros and text line you guys
want to get involved in conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I had a couple of texts come in.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Brian was uh uh, you know, as as he does
and is known to hate on CEU at times, specifically
coach Prime and and Shodor And he was asking if
Johnny Manziel had a good pro day. I would say
that that was more I would not say it was
a good prot Remember when he had the brooms, like
they were running around with the brooms when Johnny Manziel
was that was more of a mania than a throwd
in like that was that was the Tebow thing right
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where they had a cult following. I don't think that's
the case with with like Colorado and should do. I
think Shud is flashy. I think he's confident. Some people
say arrogant. I certainly believe in that. But I don't
think there's like a there's no mania this sort of
surrounding or following Shador Sanders. I mean, he would be
talked about more as the top pick if that were
the case, and that's not that's not really a thing.
I think what you get out of him is is
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is more.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Of a uh.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I think it's an association maybe with his dad and
the program and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And there are I.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Think there are people pretty split about to see you program.
There are people that love it, and there are people
that view them as the air quotes bad guy or
the villain in college football. It's good to have a
villain in in those kinds of things. I don't mean
real villain, but you know what I mean. And you know,
I think that's more what that is. I don't think
that there's any real, you know, any real mania surrounding
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Shooto or sort of like a cult following any of
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I just I just don't see that, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I do see people's strong feelings about him, but I
don't ever see that sort of that sort of mania
that you know, that we've seen surrounding those kinds of things.
I thought, uh, I thought looked all right throwing the
ball out there, specifically on the deep ball he had.
He had five missed passes in that in that throwing
script out of sixty plus passes, uh, three of which
were drops. Only two of those were what I call
bad balls. You know, I thought the throwing session that
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he had was pretty good. I thought Travis looked pretty
good out there, you know, doing that kind of stuff.
But you know, I don't I don't think there was
anything to to sit there and decry about this.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It certainly was an interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Sort of a more pageantry to this showcase than their
order of traditional produce. I've been to forty fifty sixty
probably pro days over the last decade and a half,
and I would say that this this certainly had the
most theatricality to it of any pro day I've ever
been to, even up to calling it the showcase and
having that up and you know, in Neon lights you
had to you had the prime thing and Neon lights
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in the weight room and all that kind of stuff,
and there's a lot of that stuff going on.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It was.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It was very, very.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Different than what I'm used to from some of these
pro days. But every team was wrapped, every team was represented,
had large contingents from the Giants and the Browns certainly
a lot of you know, a lot of NFL personnel
out there.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Is good to catch up with a lot of those guys.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
And one of those guys that we had a chance
to catch up with was Ran Garthin. We ran into
a former general manager of the Tennessee Titans, got a
chance to talk with him. He was gracious enough to
carve out about ten minutes a time and without further ado,
here is that.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
We're sitting here.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
We come out of these breaks and said, the stuff
between the breaks always the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
We're sitting here with.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
A former Titus general manager, Ran card the Red.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
How you doing, man, man, I'm doing great, man. I
appreciate you guys having me on.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
We appreciate you coming on. You know, Nick and Nick
and I were talking you. We walked up there in
the weight room early. You try to introduce yourself as George.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I'm like, you might be the most recognizable.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Person trying to introduce yourself with a fake name over
here to third.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Well, see I wish I didn't know first?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
What does that mean? On can you explain that?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I just wish I didn't notice so much better if
I did whatever got to do. And so these are
the cars we're dept. And that's what you just got
to deal with it.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah, that's sort of like you know what you deal
with when you are, you know, evaluating players or even
players trying to be recognized by a team.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You just play the hand that you're don't So when it.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Comes to this process and evaluating players, you know what
goes into it for you?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
What's some of the same things that you look for.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I think when you had a pro day, you know,
the first thing that you're looking at is does the
movement that you saw on tape match what you see
here in person? Excuse me? And then I mean, you're
not using a pro day to make a decision, You're
just using it as a part of the process, one
of the final pieces of a process. Like a bunch
of teams here today and this is considered a late
pro day, you know, because teams are in draft means
we would be in draft meetings right now. So I
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know one team is specifically they met this morning, jumped
on the plane came here for the Pro Day and
they're flying right back out, and so you're using this
as a part of the process, you know, to help
finalize your board and make those final decisions.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Obviously the tape is a player's da day, right, but
there is so much of this other stuff going on.
You got the Pro Day's, you got the combines, you.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Got all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
What percentage would you say that this makes up of
the overall makeup of guys as you get.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
To learn on I would say for me personally, if
I had to put a number to it for the
Pro Day, I would say like ten percent or so,
you know, and it is really depending on the player,
you know. Like like for some of these guys who
played in the All Star Games, you got to see
them practice, and you got to see them move around
at the All Star Games to see them before a
guy like Travis Hunter outside of if you were able
to come to a Colorado practice, no one's ever seen
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him move outside of a game situation. And so because
he's an underclassman, so it was big for him. But again,
Travis is different. Travis is an alien, so you know,
the rules aren't always a part of him. But again,
you don't want to put everything. I feel like if
you're making a decision off of on a playoff of
how he performed at his pro day or how he
performed at the combined and something's off with the process.
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I mean, if you go back and you look at
a kid like Shador, Shador has fifty starts in college,
like that is unreal, and so you have fifty games
to watch him and decide whether you think he can
play quarterback in the NFL or not.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Now, Ben and I talked about this a couple of
nights ago, because when we think about the three quarterbacks
that everyone's talking about, Kem Mood, Shador, we got a
chance to see in Jackson Dark. And you know, over
the past couple of weeks, we've seen the conversation about
Jackson Dart kind of accelerate, while the noise on Shador
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is starting the taper off. And as a guy that's
been in these meetings in the former GM, how does
that happen?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
How does one.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Elevate their level of I guess narrative when they haven't
done anything.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Since to come by? How does that transpire?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I mean, it's it's it's driven by us you know
in the media and you know, whatever have you. I
promise you when we're in those rooms, we're not looking
at it and saying, hey, Nick Ferguson thinks that this
guy stinks and so we should put him down, Like,
we're not doing that because you're so deep into the
process and we've spent more time, you know, with these
kids than some you know, some media folks, and so
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much goes into learning who these kids are. Like we
really expect for these kids that we've never met before
to come into a room just because we will the
position of power and just open up and tell us,
you know, their life, Nick, You and I we've been
in some of the same rooms, and we know that
you got to earn these guys trust and earn their
confidence to be able for them to open up to you.
And I think sometimes these narratives are built when these
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kids are kind of just guarded and and we're expecting
these guys to come in and just lay it all
out on the line for us, and when they don't
get that, then it you know, these type of narratives
are created.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
How much of the makeup is who the person is,
Because I mean, you can put the tape on and
you can tell in fifty plays I can ball or not.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I mean, obviously there's there's more to it than that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
But you can look at this guy, kids, how much
of it is the makeup of is football life for
this guy's football It means to an end for this guy.
How much of the scouting process goes into that a lot?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
And that's what your scouts are doing in the fall.
You know, when they're out on the road, they're hitting
all their contacts, they're talking to coaches, they're in the building,
they're using all their resources to help us, you know,
learn who the who the player is, and who the
person is. I cared about that a lot, and normal
type of person that you're bringing into the building, but
not just the building, but into your city and into
your state. And all these people are gonna be good
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ambassadors of the organization and representatives, you know, just being
good people. And so I would spend a lot of
time on that, getting to know people. We've done things
of you know, going to players home, meeting families, you know,
things like that, just to be able to understand the
type of person that we're bringing in the building.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
So when you look at Schador. What was your takeaways
from watching him work out?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I felt like he was in command. And I've always
grown with the thought process of you know, when a
quarterback walks in the room, you should know who that person.
You don't have to know that the name or whatever,
but something about that person your eye should gravitate too.
And I felt like he had that today. And then
just watching him in the drills because I was standing
directly behind him and him telling him his receivers, no, hey,
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I need you at a different speed, or let's pick
this up, or even telling his quarterback coach Darryl like, hey,
let's pick up the tempo, like let's go. He was
in full control and full command of what he wanted
to do today.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Whatever else you think of Shador, he does look like
a guy that the moment's never too big for him.
You know, he said the brightest of lights on him.
Obviously per part of this because he's the son of
the on standers, but part of that, I mean, you know,
accolades in the college game, he's had the bright lights
on him the entire time. Have you ever seen a
more moment where it looked like it was because I
haven't seen that I haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Anything that looked too big for him.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Whether it was you know, play him behind the line
that was getting him sacked a little bit or whatever,
he seemed to rise to the challenge.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Well, that's who he is. And I think people also
forget that he was he and his family were on
a reality show, you know, before before he was you
know ever even probably really playing ball. And so he's
grown up around the cameras and with the cameras in
his face.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Does that does that help as you acclimate yourself to
the NFL having that sort of thing or is that
does that.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Make you, I don't know, detached.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
In a locker room because you've had that kind of
you've had that upbringing.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Maybe maybe not everybody has.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
No And I think Shadors I think I think there's
a lot for people to still learn about Shador because
I know some things personally and how he is and
how his teammates received him that he doesn't broadcast and
he doesn't advertise. But I think if people knew those
those things about him, they would look at him completely
different and and know that every the lights and now
asked him that question today with the lights and the cameras.
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That's you know, that's anonymous with the Sanders name. But
I think there's so much behind the scenes that not
only Shador, but Shiloh, you know, Bucky, Coach, Prime, everyone associated.
They're so giving and I think that's a part of
them that people don't.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Get to see.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
You know, some people talk about this process. When a
guy doesn't work out, they look at it and say, Okay,
well we didn't get a chance to see him at
his best and he didn't take advantage of the opportunity. Today,
we didn't see a lot of Shador going through the
short shoutdo doing things like that, and we didn't see
Travis do any of those things. Now they went through
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the throwing session. Would that change any viewpoint from a
personnel standpoint with those guys not going through those preliminary workouts.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I think times are changing and that's what we got
to evolve and grow with these kids. I think Marvin
Harrison Jr. Was one of the first last year to
just flat out say I'm not doing anything, and I
understand it. I mean, Travis Huntery played one hundred and
forty four snaps a game. You got plenty of take
to go back and watch and figure out if you
think he can. And I think the way he moved
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out here today, if you think he has changed, the
direction is often maybe you should wear glasses. I just
think the game is changing, you know, the NIL space
is different and what is you know, what is transpiring
and the freedom that is given these kids, and so
I think we all need to adjust and grow. I think,
you know, some of the things we do in our
game is still antiquated, and so I think, you know,
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with these kids, we got to evolve because there's going
to be more of them than it is us.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Oh, dovetail off that real quick, because the NIL thing,
and this is something that's that's kind of I guess
occurred to me over the last couple years with the NIL.
First of all, you're going to have people opting to
stay in school.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
For the money.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Second of all, do you think that this is going
to lead to guys maybe maybe coming out a little
bit more prepared as quarterbacks because the previous thing used
to be to get them young, you know, get him,
you'll get him, ang all this kind of stuff. Well,
now you got guys. You look at last year James Daniels,
Poe Nicks Michael PENNOCKX.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Guys, you've been around for a while. Camp war this
year been.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Around for what, get more reps because the NI allows
you to make money while you're in college and then
come out. Do you think we're going to see increased
quarterback play because get more.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Reps to the collegiate level?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I think that, you know, I don't think we have
enough data to say, because all those people you name,
they're uniquely wired different people. NIL definitely plays a piece,
and you know the maturation and what these guys can do.
I think the biggest thing that NIL gives these kids
is freedom right and gives them freedom in a space
to where you know, they're not chasing a proverbial carrot
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to change their family lives. You know, hey, if you
don't do this, and you don't do this, you're not
gonna get a chance in the NFL. Well, now these
kids are coming into this space with money and have
already adjusted their family lives, and so it's now about
the passion and how much they love football, which is
a piece. I don't think people talk about we we
down we downgrade the NIL stuff, and we talk about
it from a negative standpoint, but we don't talk about
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the financial freedom and the generational wealth that it helps
bills families as well.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
You know what a man, I would be remissive. I
didn't ask you this question obviously. You know everyone's talking
about Shador, but I think the biggest question is about
you know, Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He is reversity.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
You mentioned in fact the number of plays that he's
played last season, which is an unlumming amount. But from
your perspective, better wide receiver than dB or vice versa.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Me personally, if I was still calling the shots, I
would say dB first, just because of the nature of
the game at the end of the day, As you know, Nick,
being a dB guy, you can always alert to cat coverage. Yes,
I wouldn't be wrong, but there's so much nuance that
goes into playing receiver, you know, adjusting your route, the
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coverage rotations on the fly, and it's you know, if
it's something you've never done, it's an adjustment to it.
But you know, I was here obviously here this pro
day talking to you guys, but had a good conversation
with Champ Bailey you know about it, because people forget
Champ was one of play heavyweight player, a legit two
way player. Champ and Chris Gamble. They both were, you know,
guys that played both ways, and look at both of
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those guys ended up. You know, Chris Gamble, I want
to say, maybe made a Pro Bowl here or there
as the first round pick as the dB and obviously
champions a gold jacket guy. Me personally, I would say
dB earn a package at wide receiver and having to
be a point return to get the ball in his hands.
But again I said I used the term earlier. Travis Hunter.
He's an alien and so I think Travis he could
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very well be the first two way player of given
the opportunity. And I've taught the teams that see him
as a receiver first, I've taught the teams that see
him as a dB first. I've talked to a team
that the staff are fighting, let's just get him and then.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
We're gonna fight.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
But Travis is different. And again it's like what like
I just said, with the nil, we got adjust, you know,
and just because we've never seen it before, it doesn't
mean that it can't happen. And Travis is a guy
win better against Rob.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
We really appreciate the time take us the time out
with us and know our listeners will appreciate getting that gentle.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Medical if I'm invoicing first.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
So that's it.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Yeah, yeah, coming out of hell.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, text me all a dirt on this guy because
he's you know, he's always doing that.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Will say there's no dirt, there's no there's no dirt
with a little.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Dust, little dust, all right, We'll not taking dust too,
just to say, well, everybody knows all my dirt.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's all out there in public.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
So we need to get that.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
We need to tell this guy we really appreciate though
man I cannot say appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Take care.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
That was our interview with Ran Carthin, former general manager
of the Tennessee Titans. We were sitting there yucking it
up before that thing started, So I apologize our a
rough transition there into that interview. But we were yucking
it up there at the break with stuff we could
never talk about live on the air. And sometimes at
some point I'm going to write a book and we're
gonna call about the story between the breaks, uh, because
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on this show especially, that's where all the good stuff
goes down. It's it's always hilarious, always funny. But Ran
Ray Carthon is so gracious of his time carving out
there roughly twelve minutes talk to me and Nick and
hope you guys enjoyed that we come back.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm gonna get into this some more of these player interviews.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You guys listening to Broncos Country tonight right here on
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Talk Sports. But old Brian here with you thanks to
Ran Carthin who joined us in the last segment.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I guess missed any part of that.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
You go to Broncos Country, Dot Complation podcast or wherever
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it almost nailed it.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Where you guys, can you get all the stuff that
you missed? Just in case you missed it?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So we do have some other interviews here that I
want to get to. We got two interviews back to
back here. I got a chance to talk to a
couple of SeaBus defensive players, simm and Craig is going
to be the first one, Cameron simm and Craig and
then BJ greened and you gonna want to listen to
a BJ green interview where he goes off on the
crumbled cookie Tadgent. You're gonna want to really want to
get into that one. It's a lot of fun. We
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had a lot of fun talking to both these guys.
Keep your eye on simm and Craig might wind up
being a target for the never Broncos. On day three, So,
without further ado, Nick and I sat down with Cameron
Stilm and Craig and here is that interview.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Well, welcome back to BCT.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
We're here at the Buffs showcase here with sim M
and Craig, and I have to say, being a safety myself, man,
I love everything about your game and how you approach
it from a passing standpoint and also from a tackling standpoint. Now,
when you break down your own game, what do you
think that the strength of the weaknesses to your game?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Scripts Just I'm always in the right place, study of
the game very well, always in the right place. Can
always count on me to be there when you need me,
and just a dogs Yeah, whatever you put me at,
I find a way to make it work. I mean
I haven't played different positions in college.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I always find a way to make it work.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
And probably the weakness i'na look GAINSTI sometimes gonna look
GAINSTI kind of overstudying gets on some plays or you
know what I'm saying, some stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
But like I've just been doing better at that, just
growing up. It's just being a better player.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Get pretty good on the testing to day. How did
you feel overall about the performance? Forty times in the jumps?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
It was all right? I was all right.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
I mean I'm not a track star football player first,
so answer, I was good. I was good at my drills,
the football drills, everything else.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Taking of yourself. Man, I'm a football player for anything.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Everyone always talks about comps and want to compare players
coming into the league.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
To someone else. Is there's someone in the game right now.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Past the present that you say, well, you look at
their game and just kind of trying to emulate what
they do.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
I feel like any safety that's coming out of college
right now, your.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Strikes should be Booter Baker. I mean you should.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
You should have change to be half that much effort,
that much passion, that much fight to the ball. I
mean like they just ever played with him as a
fight to the balls, a race of the ball. So
especially a Buddha, it guys to be booted for me.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
As you've gone through this process, what have you learned?
What do the NFL teams ask you that they want
to know? How to you going to this I just
want know a.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Lot about giving my family or where I come from.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
I mean, these coaches will be very highly on me,
so a lot of I already understand the parents I have.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
They just want to seem perform to day. I mean
after day, i'n get a lot of more, way more,
a little deeper. So it was fun. I had a
fun time. I feel like I put out my bus
performance I could.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
So I'm letting the biggest thing that everyone wants to
know from all prospects coming into the league, and I'll
ask you because you're safety, I mean, what is it
that you are bringing or what be bringing to any
team that's to watch you.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
I'm a winner. I'm a natural winner. I mean I
win and everything I want to win. I want to win.
That's what i want to do.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
And I feel like going into the league, I'm going
to league with the with the mindset of not I'm
just trying to make it to the league. I'm trying
to be in the best in the league. I want
to win super Bowls. I want to win playoff mans.
I want to be in these deeper playoff runs. So
I feel like that's what I'm bringing to the team.
Another leader, another leader for sure, another guy to know
how to win, knows what it's taking. I mean, my
coach was coach Prown for the last six years. Like
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I know what Hall of Fame looks like, what greatness
looks like. So that's why I feel like I bring
a different knack and me playing at Colorado, I'm just
player from everything the playoff from I mean, it's a
million cameras everywhere I go. It's been We've been the
most talkorable team. We've been down, We've been up on
people talking criticized us, people that building us up. So
I always feel like I have to open on a
lot of college players because of that, because I know
how to deal with the media.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I know how to deal with the.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
High and the lows.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
What has the Colorado experience been like for you?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Because this program before you guys want Prime got here,
this was this program was almost that you know, and
you've raised this from the ashes. It's something to be
proud of you. It's a focal point in college football. Now,
do you think that A creates added pressure on you
guys and B you know, how do you rise to
meet those levels as you see that than they sayers
and the haters on TV?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yes, it does.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
It does a more pressure, of course.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
I mean because everybody wants to be the team and
take it out. We've got everybody best. I mean I
think I played twenty on the games here and every
game we have got their best. We got their best team.
So I feel like it did you more for the
NFL because everybody coming at you in NFL me, everybody
fight for jobs for jobs, so everybody's fighting to beat us.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
So I feel like that build us up.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
And also just the what we brought here was a standard,
like a standard duinn, a standard to not beat. Like
look at this, we got a whole showcase going on
right now, man, I mean like this is the standard.
Like that's how it's supposed to look. So just proud
of all these guys and all of us. They came
out here, performed, They just to handle lot of business.
We left the standard for sure.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Now everyone always talks about being a leader, that they
are a leader, they're a leader of man.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Define that for me in your terms, What does that
mean to be an actual leader?
Speaker 6 (21:55):
A leader is you do everything right all the time.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
You may you may slip up every once in a while,
but at the end of the day, like people are
counting on you. This is a player that you're count
on your accountab before your action. You're a player that
your coach is coming to and you're an example of
what you want your team to be. And I feel
like coming through coming up here at me and you
ask those prime coach lifts came match like the guys
like I was always the example, like the leaders to
not not just going out there and being the loudest guy,
but the guy that he's the example like this what
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this is what you should be. And I feel like
I let them guys the right way. I mean, I
wish I could go ask them guys to coming up.
I feel like I made a great imperson on everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
What was it like going from coach Kelly to coach
lits libsen I was got the NFL experience.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
What was it like going from from that difference? According
to what it was good both of them coaches are great.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Actually, Coach Kelly, he built me ready for this level
I mean because I was a little rough coming in.
I was a little roll, you know, because Coach Kelly
every little detailed thing, every little thing, every step, every foot, place, me,
every this every day, the way you tackle, the way
you do this, and so he was a very detailed
guy and I love for that.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
So I kept that coming to this year.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
And when I came to coach Livings and couch Lison
not the same like he kind of like like, I
hope you can do it.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
However you get it done.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
That's how you get it done. Long as it worth.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Did you have to reprove yourself to Coach Livings thing?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I mean obviously you know you have the time, but
you know, you get the new coach and you got
to kind of, you know, feel them out. How was
that trying to reprove yourself as in your last year?
He at colorable that I'll.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Prove myself to because Livings prove myself.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
Right.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
For the most part, I didn't want to. I wasn't
too much think about what he thought about myself, like
these coaches stuff on game.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Or great rundown of me.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
So I really I wasn't about I would never want
to prove that into the coaches and how I want
to prove it to the team.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Now, everyone talks about what it's like to be a
corner and live on the island, but not too many
people know what it's like to play twelve to fourteen
and have to deal with coming downhill, dealing with two.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Hundred and twenty pounds running backs and my guy here.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Benjamin Albright learned that the hardware when was in high
school and someone ran through his chests. So explain to
the listeners what is it like to have that mentality
to play the safety, to know that, hey, I got
to come downhill and I have to make plays.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
For me for safety.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
I feel like I feel like right in the middle.
We're right in the middle of everything because the linebackers
not cover guy. Then we're you know what I'm saying,
bombs the top guys. The corner's not more talking guy
than more cover guy, and we kind of like have
to do everybody there, you work, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
So we talking for the corner.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Yeah, we wants to be covering for the linebacker.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
So it's kind of like we kind of the middle
steps got to take it because a lot, a lot
of times you get this time, the deserve all.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
The time, all right, end of the day. You get
to the pro game, you get to the NFL, you
get the big show.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Who's the first guy you want to pick off? Or
who's the first guy you want to get So you
want to get that sack on there?
Speaker 6 (24:28):
You see that guy over there doing the interview.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You have the red jersey on.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
The whole time.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
You couldn't do it now you.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I love it?
Speaker 9 (24:37):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Did you got anything else?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Man? Listen, Man, As a guy that played in the
league ten years as an undrafted player, I've had a
chance to watch you grow and develop. And I sit
here and I talk to a lot of coaches and
scouts and your name constantly comes up.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So I want you to keep that in mind as
you move forward.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
No matter what happens on draft ay, just know that
if you believe in yourself, it's about making and maximizing
the most out of your opportunities. I'm telling you, man,
if I can make it with my ability and play
ten years, you should play longer than that.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
So I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah, absolutely, But Bie.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Man, I couldn't make it any use.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
I'm dang man.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We appreciate you along the way, appreciate you, Appreciate you absolutely.
All right, welcome back to it. We're here with BJ Green.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Bj.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
How do you think your day went?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Overall?
Speaker 7 (25:26):
Man?
Speaker 9 (25:27):
I did pretty great.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You know.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
I left everything I had on the field, and you
can do nothing but walk away proud of what you did.
Speaker 9 (25:31):
So it's a surreal moment.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
You know.
Speaker 9 (25:32):
I'm still taking it all man, So I'm happy.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Now I have to ask you, you know, Andre Hard
had a chance to talk to him earlier today and
we were talking about you as a linebacker and just
being the striker that you that you are. What are
some of the things that you've learned being around him
and other coaches in his program?
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Well standing on change for nobody, you know, And that's
a blessing in disguise. You know, these dudes when they
first been here here, they put you through some near
death experience, like push you further than where you thought
you could go. Yeah, and I'm I'm I love them
for it because like when they prepared us throughout the season,
they taught us how to product ourselves throughout this process.
So like you can speak to anybody, I don't think
anything's ever called the stuff gone throughout this process, and
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you know that's a blessing.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
So you know, I appreciate those guys for doing that.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Your first run I thought was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You had the four five nine and that first run
and second run a little bit a little bit shaky,
but that.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
First for four to five nine. Let's go play well
these with these scouts.
Speaker 9 (26:24):
You know, it's a blessing.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
You know, I've been training, been training down there in Florida,
you know, putting on those hort sweat hours, eating dog food.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
What about Roston Puria man, here a dog food man.
Speaker 9 (26:39):
I'm like, what I gotta do to like make sure
that I could run the way I need to run?
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Yeah, cut out the cars. I was like, all right,
see me, I'm not I didn't really pay. It's in
the hell class. I'm not thinking like how many things
are considered cars. So they give me my plate the
next day it's just steak and black and I'm like,
where's the right.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Snacking on rice.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
Cakes and all that kind of stuff, eating healthy the
things I used to lineupair.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Past in the store.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Like see, I'm the type of guy where like have
you been in chrumble cookies.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Uh no, but I love it. I love me to chromo. Yeah,
I love some chromo.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
Starting from my freshman year all the way to now.
Like before every game, I used to get a.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Four box and wait, wait, wait, just.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
A quarter pounders before playing, and this dude was freaking
out a helpful guy.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I'm the jump food guy.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
So it's like I'm with him and things like you
eat them right right before kick off, that sugar.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Except cars.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
He's a car that's a whole different type of quarter pounds.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
And this guy, like.
Speaker 9 (27:37):
I've always been like cool, I'm a big desert guy.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Like even in my downside, I'm baker and you know,
all those kinds of things. So like that was my
hardest thing, like not being able to touch any of that.
Like I'm walking past the baker I see for something,
so I'm like, man, I can't even you know what,
like this a million down decisions.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
If you want this cookie, I'm bad.
Speaker 9 (27:52):
Do you really want this cookie?
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Like is those kinds of things that not Like he
got to a point I had like fifty s TV
and like I used to collect the boxes and then
like it's that tallering on my TV and I stopped
and I've seen it one day and it may reevaluating
my decision.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I sled up doing it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
But let me tell you, look, at least you got
the metabolism for right now because I tell you, man,
there's let me tell you a fell This stuff will
catch up with you after I had to cut cars
earlier this year, and then when I got back into
the first slice of bread boy, the make cup sex
was phenomen a tear rolling down my chest from from
from a life of bread Man.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
You know, it's actually like I used to like I
used to text them. I'm like, man, you guys need
you guys need to get with me, like and then
like I actually started like partnering with them this year.
They started sending me like care packages and stuff. But
like I actually befriended one of my classmates at Arizona State.
He was he actually worked that crumble, So he used
to give me the hook up, like, you know, right
before they close, just give me a bag.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
We gotta get this man the deal here. We gotta
get this man in the endorsement.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
To this sweet too bad.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
I mean, but you know what what.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
You're speaking of is disciplined right to understand.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Okay, Well, here is where you were before.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
But I'm understanding, Okay, Well, I'm trying to get to
the league, and I'm trying to make sure that I'm
a mainstake in the league.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But I got to cut my cars and something I
love the most, something I love the most, crumble cookies.
I had to give it up. There are a lot
of individuals who really struggle with that.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
But that tells me a lot about you as a
player and your level of discipline and attention through detail.
And with that being said, when you approach any given game,
right and you've been here for a while, what are
some of the things that you look at when you
were viewing film and you're prepare for opponent.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
So I break down the week like this.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
I'm a very cerebral person, like I was an engineering
major in college. So first two days Monday and Tuesday,
I'm looking at their overall scheme. First, second down, I'm
looking at what they like to do it like wester,
their tendencies, and then you know, Wednesday, Thursday, I'm looking
at their third down, their past miss guys, and I'm
breaking down every single line and what their weakness is.
Speaker 9 (29:38):
Because I played from the three to the nine.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
I've spent my first two years at the three tag
tom my last two years at the edge, I've been
able to do everything. So those last two days, you know,
I'm looking at those things like what move matchups with?
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Who like?
Speaker 9 (29:48):
What time like?
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Look are their tendencies, like what can I get off with?
How can I get off and taking advantage of them?
You know, Friday, you know, I'm like to just turn
my brain on because I've already done the work, and
then Saturday I just go out there to execute.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
So you think about playing on the edge, and when
you look at the NFL, there's some big offensive tackles,
some big guys out out there waiting now for you,
being as though you got a lot of versatility. What
are some of the things that you're thinking about before
that ball is snapped? As you're looking and said, okay, well,
how can I move a man off his spot to
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get to where I need to get?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
To see?
Speaker 9 (30:21):
I'm fast enough as it is, just like you said
my forty time man, So I did tell you.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
The terms of interaction. You know, I get to my
point and how how he reacts to that, and then
it's like just you know, it's a field thing. It's
instinct and I'm not thinking out there. So whatever happens
is going to happen, you know. And I've train my
body well enough to react the way I needed to react.
Take advantage every other between that I get out there,
you know, like they as soon.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
As they twist, I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So as you look at this process and you start
to get contact from NFL teams, what are they asking
the most out of you?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
What do they want to know about you?
Speaker 8 (30:48):
They want to just know about me as a person,
you know, like what my background is? You know, they
asked me, like what what's such myself apart and that
deep you know, in a deep edge class, you know,
being like being an underrated guy to ask me like
you know, like if they picked me away, they be
getting out of me at a player.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Those kinds of things.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
So I've asked this question of someone, Craig, and I
want to ask you to you because I think there's
somewhat of a misunderstanding of the word itself and that
word as leader.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Like if someone is bringing you in and you you.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Are a young young guy, and the idea is that
for young guys to be seen and not her, how
could you what do you feel is though, in what
ways that you can lead as a young guy coming
into any organization.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
So, you know, being a young guy now without the leadership.
So just going back when I started off.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
With my couge career, I was a walk on. So
like my goal out there is to be the most
seen guys possible. You know, I'm trying to make sure
the I'm not eating the same thing over and over again,
just like pay for school. So those kinds of things,
you know, when I go into this process. You know,
every time every time I go into a new place,
when you walk in there, you know, you don't want
to step up. Nobody's told you know, it's a blessing
to even be around with some of those guys, you know,
these household names. You know, I want to learn learn
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from some of these guys, you know, learn how to
stay in the league, because get into leaders want them
to stay in there. Finishing that you're a household name
for a long time. It's a completely different thing. So
learning from those guys, you know, and being able to
take advantage of it while also making the name for myself.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
That's my little world, bro, you know, being.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
Able to complement each other, you know, going out there
and making sure everybody's having fun. You know, we go
out there and rush as a unit. I feel like
the scariest do lines are the ones who enjoy what
they're doing, and that's freaking scary.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
So baj last one for me.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
You know, NFL fan basis out there, they're gonna be
listening to this. What are they getting when bj Green
gets some tame besides being the biggest celebrity doors for
a couple of.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
Cookies, they called me a Tasdanian devil, like I'm a
big cartoon guys.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
You know, I go out there and I bring chaos
and I have fun doing it.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
You know, people always say that I'm on the side,
but you know I always say back, I make big
people feel small because you.
Speaker 9 (32:39):
Got to come down to me at the end of
my day.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
There you go.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
You know, when the times they're done.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
Playing with me, you know they're gonna feel like they're
five eleven even if they are six fives.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
So and I'll go out there.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
You know, I make sure that I'm the most famous
person on the fit at all times, and that's exactly
that everybody else there.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
On this defense fields. So you get eleven guys who
feel like the exact same way.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
You know, it's a good thing to see, all right,
j Hey, we appreciate your wishing your best of luck here.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Hey, go out there, Wreckshaw as Many and David.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Those were our interviews with Cameron Zum and Craig and
BJ Green of the Colorado Buffalo's defense. Had a lot
of fun, especially with Green on that way that that
was a good fun interview. I was like it with guys,
come in with the personnel. You know, there's We had
a couple of guys that some other interviews will throw
those up later. We got an interview with the punter,
was fun. We got an interview with one of the
defensive linemen was fun. But for me, it's always fun
when you get a guy with the personality in there
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because you know, the defensive lineman, he gave all the
right answers that you coached up to, you know, sort
of give BJ Green was just like a dude sitting
down talking and it was. That was a lot of fun.
So I always enjoy that kind of stuff. Always have
a lot more fun with that kind of stuff. Again,
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