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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm uh stayed away from cold tubs, man, hot tubs,
could tubs.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm just going to just stay away from those individuals
who were on the teams that Orlando Franklin.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Man, Yeah, those are some nasty dudes.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Man like you, you're just gonna You're just gonna go
in the tub.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Dude, I don't care what Orlando says. That's trifling because
you don't do that, and to suggest that someone else
had done it before you. You observed someone else doing it,
so you decided okay, then that makes it cool. Like, No,
I can expect that from the public pool, right, I
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don't expect that from a professional setting. And you know,
being a former athlete myself, hot tubs cold tubs were
a huge part of what we did to just kind
of bring our legs back. So I can't say if
someone relieve themselves of their own adult fluid inside pool
before I got there, If it did, then they got me.
(01:05):
But normally openly knowing that this was the thing with
that particular team, it's utterly ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
They was unacceptable at the pool, right.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, you were swimming at there and that thing was
huge and had tons of chlorine in it. Like you
would you even.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Though like when I was a kid, I think every
kid was told us that you don't believe yourself in
the pool because they put a chemical in it. Right.
I never know if it was true or not, but
it scared me enough to know that I had to
get up out of the pool and go into the bathroom. Right,
But but what what drown? Not just men, but men
do that. I don't know who does that?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And then like like you know they did it, and
then you'll go get in that right after.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But also too, if you did it, why did you
not alert someone else that, Hey, a dog, you may
not want to go just.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Like when you go in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Hey man, you may not want to go in that.
I got the fan on, so you make me want
to wait.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Here's the spray? Yeah, you know, just yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Gotta get the pool when you gotta did you get
the person who's got to go clean that out?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Like what they got? They gotta drain that tub and
then put Philip back up. That's that's not a great teammate.
That's you're not being a great individual to do that.
There's no way you to justify Even though Orlando tried
his best to justify.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
He was making a point about people not being treated
the same because there was somebody who's superstarted.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It doesn't make a difference. You know they did it,
You did it, you saw them do it. Now now
we got a whole team full of cesspools.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, like, I'm never going to the hot tub at
Orlando's house. I mean not that I'm invited, but I
don't do it.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm just saying it's gonna come hot. Come. I'm not
doing it over there. Hey, hey, come over man. You
know we having a pool party this summer. Now, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Is it a pool party or a pool party, because
I want to know there's no peeing.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Don't make a difference.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I'm going to do what most African American people do
at pool parties.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Hang out on the staying on, staying on the edge.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You're not getting it, especially if you.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Are a rating woman. She is not getting the pool.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And if you mess her hair up, yeah, oh she's
not getting a pool like. Don't get it in the like. Okay, now,
I've been to some parties.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Now, okay, I've been to the barbecue.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah yeah, okay, they'll get into the.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Pool up to here.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
But then I getting up is not getting that and
you get water on the hair, it's your I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
What barbecues you've been invited to, but all the barbecues
that I've gone to pool parties right before the season start,
there are no African American women getting in the water.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
They're standing around the part I saw someone wait in
So maybe maybe it's a different crowd. And I don't know,
I'm saying, must must be a crowd that didn't get
their hair done. Well, they didn't get there their hairting
you wet, you get their hair wag one way the
other year.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It was over for you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I don't know what. Once again, I don't know what
pool parties. I'm just saying, but yes, yeah, that's yeah.
The text line's on fire with this. What's that the
text life? We don't swim in your toilet, don't pee
in our pool, exactly. I'm with you, right there with you.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Do you drink out of the toy No, exactly, I
mean unless you're thirsty. I caught somebody ben something about
you get to like you get the chemical in the tank.
So if you're drinking out of there, it's you know,
like you drink then I wouldn't know because I get
my water from a fall.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, with the filter the Britain. Yeah, I know all
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Don't want to say that you got the you know,
the thing you put in the tank and the toilet
that turns the water blue.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So why would you drink that anyway?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You know what? We used to have those when I
was a kid dropping, I would flush the toilet because
the stuff. But yeah, I haven't had one of those
in a while. But I dare not drink out of
the toilet, and uh, I dare not to relieve myself
in a public facility like the shower is unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Like when I was in the army.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
If you if you you know, you're NATed in the shot,
you're gonna get you ass kicked.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, that was one of the reasons why it was
kind of known that you wear shower shoes, because you
never know, you may have a Orlando Franklin who may
want to relieve themselves and you didn't want to be
stepping in it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Hey, I don't know anyway, Big showdon II romy Bean's
going to join us at seven o'clock hour, right, Michael,
uh as well. Nuggets blow out the Clippers in Game
seven one twenty one oh one. Our own grand Smith
was present that said drubbing of the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And then's to our chagrin, the Avalanche blew.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
A two goal lead to lose to the Stars four
to two in Game seven.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Rant In with the hat trick there and.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And the goal that went off to Skate there, that
was just at that point you were like, oh.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
That wrap around goal, you knew the Ads were in trouble. Yeah,
and yeah, I was talking to Nick about this before
the show. You know, maybe I'm not as big a
die hard as fan as I thought, because I was
pretty happy for Miko afterwards, you know, as he kind
of got forced out in Colorado and then traded again
from Carolina, which was kind of his own doin And
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to have a hat trick and an assist against your
old team and a game seven and the player playoffs,
that's a pretty special moment. That's a legendary sports performance
that we got to see.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
See. I felt the same way, And know I'm not
abbod hockey fan. I didn't grow up with hockey, but
since living here in Denmer, you learn to appreciate the
players for what they do on the ice, but as
a guy that played a professional sport for more than
a decade, I appreciated what I saw from Miko Ranton
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it because at the beginning of the series against the Stars,
I mean, he couldn't buy a puck, and I'm sure
he was down on himself. But just think about it.
After game six, where the Abs kind of scored seven goals,
you were just like, okay, well, game seven, this should
be not easy. But the Abs are walking there with
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a whole bunch of confidence. But to know that a
guy that you traded one of your own, he was
the one to kind of knock you off the pedestal,
take you off the chessboard, if you will. And knowing
his though it was the third period, if I'm not mistaken,
Grant may have been about thirteen minutes remaining in that
third period. Yeah, and there were so many people who decided,
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what this is the third period? The ads up to nothing,
this is over, I'm going outside the celebrating alrighty, yes,
Papa bottles. And then all of a sudden he came
back and like, what the hell happened?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, because you were so elated from watching the Nuggets
just run the Clippers out of the gym, which is
fascinating because the Nuggets had looked kind of tired in
that game six. You know, you saw tired knees and
were elevated on jump shots. Nicolea wouldn't getting hands up,
you know, on shots and.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Stuff like that. And then they come back in game seven,
they just they just.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Blew the doors off. And it started right off the
break with Christian Brown.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
And then by thirty three after russ Is dunk and
getting the technical and everybody that was the happiest technical
foul I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
College did not care at that end thirty I'm hanging
on the rim, I'm celebrating whatever.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
But this is the Dagger. It was such an awesome part.
That was an atmosphere that I feel very lucky to
be a part of. But yeah, then it was all
quick taken away when you went home and watched the
end of the APPS game.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, when you think about the game, it has two
revenge parallels. You know, Russell playing against his former team,
the Clippers, and how when you play against your former team,
how usually a player elevates his level play. And you
have Niko Ranton and elevating his level play on behalf
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of the Stars and Russell versus his former team the Clippers, right,
And when you think about Russ going in, there was
so much negative stuff said about Russ and what was
going to happen after Michael Malone was fired. And Michael
Malone really loved and liked the way that Russell played
the game, and maybe he rubbed some of the players wrong,
and there was a lot of backlash. Well, maybe you know,
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jaln Pickas should start over Russ. And I'm like, well,
Russ is who he is, right, And when you think
about the numbers, fourteen points, five rebounds through assists, and
he made forty two percent of his threes. Two percent
of his threes he made And that was a problem
for the Nuggets because I did was like, well, where
are you going to get that perimeter shooting from? But
I want to read something, you know, to you guys
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that comment after the game seven win that Russell said,
and I have you guys, you know, respond to him.
He said, I pride myself on being a forcesome nature
on the floor. It may be a turnover, maybe a mishot,
it may be a steal, maybe a dunk, maybe a
miss three, maybe a May three, no matter whatever it is,
it's going to be all of that. So take it
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how it comes. You know, Russell Westbrook and when you
hear a player who knows what people are saying about him,
how sporadic his game can be. But for me, looking
at the Nuggets, you need that style of play, someone
to be somewhat of a spark. And you look at
game six, and you look at game seven. I mean,
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I will say that Russell in this play was a
spark because Tyl Low was gonna leave him out there
to shoot to open jumper right right here, gonna leave
him out there. But Russell, I'm like, okay, you're gonna
leave me out here. Jump now. Now they're playing, Okay,
see will he be able to duplicate that right? I'm
hoping he would because if he does, that gives them
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a chance against the younger team. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I mean for us, I think it's it's really more
that live by die by. I think Nuggets fans are
probably a little bit more upset at the boneheaded move
sometimes that he has for a guy that's been in
the league forever, Like there, there's I'm like, bro that's
that's basketball, Like you right there, like what are you doing?
And I appreciate his hustle. I appreciate you know, I
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under I'm fine with them with misshots and things like that.
It's the basketball like hug stuff for me that I'm like, whoa.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But once again, and he said it himself, you got
to take the bidder with the suite when it comes
to him, because his energy is going to allow him
to get to the basket because he's rushing down the court.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
For a layup.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah. Also it's energy because he's rusted down the court
may turn the ball over in And from a coaching standpoint,
I would say this, And I love players who I
would rather have to turn them down than to turn
them up. Okay, right, yeah, because because I want a
player to go out and play full speed. And the
whole idea is that I'd rather you go make a
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mistake full speed then make a mistake just kind of
locks of days ago. So I'm okay with with what
Russ is doing. I'm okay with it because you know,
sometimes those plays are going to be negative, but sometimes
those plays are going to be positive. And the one
guy that loves it the most is the guy that
does for him and the Kola Jokids.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, I think that it's just it's one of those
things that drives coaches mad. Though coaches love stability, right
like you think about it, think about from the NFL perspective.
You know, you got a boom er bust player or whatever,
maybe at the quarterback position. It's why a lot of
guys don't get chances that they probably need to develop
and become what they could is because they're so high variants.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You know, you don't know what you're getting out of there.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
You're gonna have one spectacular play where some quarterback breaks
a sack, he scrambled around for a bunch, makes a
big play, and then you know he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Take a sacert.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I mean, we're describing a different russ in this scenario
and Russell Wilson. But you know, there's there is sort
of a a It drives coaches nuts not to have
the stability. They would rather have the stability than and
the and the known outcome than the high variance guy
who can do those things.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Though. But you but you you know that about the
guy that that you're dealing with, especially if he's a
veteran and you've seen him play because like, you know
how consistent he is, but you also know how inconsistent
he is, right and having a player and that that.
I used to say this when I when I was
at Georgia Tech talking about the Blue the Blue Devils,
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I mean they had well, no you know what I
would think of it, But knowing as though those shooters
on every Duke team dating back to when Chris and
Latner was there, They're gonna shoot you either in the
games or they're gonna shoot you out of games. J. J.
Ruddick was definitely that type of player and as an
NBA player, But for me, at least you know what
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you were getting in that player, and some players you
have you have no idea. I'd rather go on a
game knowing as though, well, you know what, this could
be great for us, it could be bad for us,
depending on whatever night it is. But at least I
know what I'm going to get from this player, and
I'm gonna get a whole bunch of energy.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, And there is something to that for a team
that's just thin on the bench, as the Nuggets are having,
me having a Russell Westbrook that can come in and
keep pumping the pace up and you don't have to
slow it down, and you know, and play possession ball
till you guys get a breather and then come back on.
You could put Russ Westbrook in and the pace it
might even go up when he's in there.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
You know what was crazy? And if I'm Tyler and
I'm Steve Balmer, I'm just upset with the defensive effort
of the Clippers in Game seven, especially James Harden. When
Russ shot the free throw right and he was able
to get to the rim and get the put back
and James har are still standing in place, I was like, Yeah,
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this is bad. But once again, that speaks to the
level of energy that Russell brings to any basketball game
and known as though he's playing against his former team,
guess what, he's gonna be gassed up again.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I mean, I think that's a thing. Is this the
Russell Westbrook revenge Tour? Because I think you kind of
can use that as a win one for the Gipper,
like in the sense that the rest of the team
can rally around and Russ wants to put it to
all these teams that passed on him while he's here
with us.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I don't think they. I don't think there's a player
or someone in the Nuggets front office that has to
tell Russ that.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
No, not Russ, I'm talking about the other guys, the
Michael Porters, the Christian Brown's.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I mean, Brown's an energy guy.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But there are there are days where you see Porter,
especially Porter, even Gordon sometimes where they're eighty percent of
themselves out there. Sometimes I'm not saying mail it in
because I'm not. You know, they're a pro athlete and
I'm some dork or the microphone, but you know what
I me like, there are days where they are certainly
not playing as energetically as they do others.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, this is why when before Russell came, I was
a huge advocate for him of coming here. I mean,
you lose Bruce Brown, you lose KCP. It was like, well,
who is going to be the energy guy? We know
that Eric Going was a defensive guy, but where was
the energy going to come from? Because as talented as
Nicola Jokic is, he's not going He's not that That's no,
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that's not his role. So saying okay, well, bringing in
Russ as sporadic as he is, he's going to intensify
the defensive effort because how.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Wild he is.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's almost like a kid hopped up on sugar, right,
So it's going to feed all these different players. And
more importantly for me, I wanted to wanted to defeat
Jamal Murray. But it seems as though it's impacted Kristen
Brown more than it has Jamal Murray. And either way,
it still bows well for the Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, and then I mean, and that's fine, You're gonna
have to have guys step up. Nicola didn't really I
mean in that game seven, he had but sixteen points.
That wasn't really his his game, but everybody else stepped
up in that game.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Well yeah, and that's what I was going to say,
is that Jamal and Joker didn't even have great games,
either of them. So a lot of guys did step up.
They're just gonna have to continue to do so against Oka.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
See.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, you're that this is going to be a real
test because you're a team with a perilously thin bench
against probably the deepest team in the league in ok See.
They're good on offense, they're great on defense, and there's
a reason that they won as many games as they
did and swept the Grizzlies.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
The Grizzlies were a.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Fifty plus win team and they swept them like it
wasn't even like they didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Even put effort in.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
You know, the one thing you're hoping if you're the Nuggets,
you're hoping that okay see, is a little rusty from
sitting there waiting on you to finish the series, and
it takes them a minute and maybe you can catch
them napping for a for an opening game.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
See. That's one way to look at it. But also
you say, okay, if you okay see, you had a
chance to get rest, to watch those games and prepare
for what the Nuggets were throwing at the Clippers, because, yeah,
is there a case where the Nuggets could catch ok
se just chilling lunching because they had so much sime off. Yes,
But the flip side of that coin is you also
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have a Nuggets team that's a little exhausted because they're
coming off of Game seven. They had one day off,
one day off, and if I'm okay see, I'm going
to continue to push the pace. Right, It's almost like.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
A game high rotation, high pace game.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It's like, you know, like a pitch facing a good picture.
You got to get him up in his pitch count.
I would run, run, run, And this is a team
and okay, see that they have multiple two way players.
They got young team, they got Chet Holmgren and they
got Shay And the first thing I thought about this
man and you have to go back to I think
it's on Netflix. It's called Olympic Goal where you saw
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all the teams last year going for the for the
gold medal in basketball. You know of that team, they
had six players who were in the playoffs right off
Team Canada. But you know who was on Team Canada
that really did show up, Jamal Murray. So Jamala knows
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Shy and Shy knows Jamal. So this is gonna be
one of those series where it's not just going to
be about well proposed MVP, Nicolo, Jokish and Sha But
to me, it's gonna be like, well are we going
to see playoff.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Jamal multiple times? Rocos Country Night be back after this.
I can't read it on the air. But thanks to
the four one seven who sent that story about basically
training with the Air Force that thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I needed that in my life. Five six six nine zeros.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The text line Rocco's rookie Mini Caamp coming up this weekend.
Is there anybody you're excited in particular to see here
at Mini Caamp?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Wow? Okay, the number of players I'm gonna see Bryant,
I want to see RJ. Harvey. Hell, you know what,
I'm want to see all the guys, all of them.
I want to see them because I have to tell you,
when you first get to an NFL Mini camp, I mean,
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your eyes are just a wonder because now you finally
made it to a place that you dripped about for
so many years. Now you are one of those guys.
You're in the room, you have one of those jerseys,
and watching the guys when they walk out on the
field for the first time with the coaches and they
get to compete and interact with one another, to see,
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that's going to be a thing of beauty and that's
where memories are made. Because let's be let's be frank
about the situation. Everyone that's being invited to camp will
not actually go to training camp. There are a lot
of guys who being asked to come in just for
camp body purposes. You need another quarterback, you need another
wide receiver. But for those guys who are going to
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be expected to make the team, the guys who were
drafted to me, it's going to be great to see
those guys go out and compete. Yeah, I think so,
and it's it's nice.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I mean, Rookie mini camp is is a little bit
different because you know, you're not gonna have the vets there.
It's just gonna be a bunch of the rookies, and
there will be people that stand out, relatively speaking, because
a lot of the bodies that are there undrafted guys
that are just hoping to get a shot, you know,
one last shot, one of which I don't know if
you remember.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Mark Cooper, but his son is actually going to be
really out there.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Son's actually good out there play ball at Lyndon Wood
as an offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
So he's gonna be out there.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
But there's there's there's a lot of undrafted guys that
will be out there, and it's interesting to see who
shows out of these kinds of things. I will say
when he when he was there, Drew Sanders was one
man wrecking crew the year he was doing Rookie Mini Camp.
I mean, it was like that dude was everywhere and
has yet to really make an impact with the Broncos,
you know overall, So some of the stuff that comes
out of that can be a little bit you know,
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it can be a little bit over runt.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
But I definitely want to see some of these guys.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I want to see the punter sees leg at altitude
and kind of see what we got there. I'd like
to see, you know, the speed r J. Harvey and
you mentioned Pat Bryant. Of course, you want to see
Jane Baron out there. You know that kind of stuff.
You want to see your your upper drafted guys showing on.
You want to see who the diamonds in the rough are.
And I think that that's for me. I think that
that's you know what I'll have my eye on.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Well, there's gonna be a lot of diamonds in the
rough in what's happening with the Broncos at the linebacker
position with Drake Greenlaw being out for maybe about eight
weeks and now give other guys an opportunity to kind
of flash and then show themselves. I mentioned this once
before as an undrafted linebacker out of Utah, Kareem Reid
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right and I know when you look at the merasureable,
someone would say, well, he's on the smaller side. But
for me, he reminds me of not e Xac Kamp
because I don't like to do comps, but just the
way that he plays the game Zach Thomas. And I
know Zach Thomas is a Hall of Famer, but when
this is me playing against Zach Thomas being considered to
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be an undersized linebacker but having the football smarts to
know how to put himself in the right place to
make a play even though the speed may be lacking
in that particular area. I think Green Reed can be
that type of player. And I like the way he
plays and uses his hands. As Mike lionbacker, you you
must be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, he's uh and he's one of those that people
have an eye on his zavior trust the the interior
lineman out of Georgia. I think he's probably one that
almost the undrafted guys, that's probably I would say to
play the best bet to make the roster.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Johnny Walker out of Missouri.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
The past which Johnny Walker, we'll we'll call him blue
because one of my father knows Johnny Walker doesn't really
well we're gonna call him blue, but h Walker Uh
was you know Sam's tri and Bowl and he had
a good Shrine Bowl.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Eighty pressures in eighteen sacks last year Missouri. He was
very statistically accomplished. The problem is you put on the
tape and he's a one trick pony. But you know,
maybe he can learn to diversify that set of pass
rush moves instead of just blowing by guys, you know,
to try to get the quarterbacks. So I, you know,
kind of interested to see what he can do out
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there as well as a couple of the guys. Jamie
Brown's another linebacker now he's out of Kansas, another undersized
linebacker out of Kansas. But he's another instinct the guy
that'll be that'll be interesting to see him at Courty Jackson.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
He's a wide receiver out of Arkansas State, and he
has some kick return ability. He's an explosive receiver, and
he he has some ability on special teams. So maybe
there's a better shot for him than than maybe some
of these other guys because he does have that additional
ability as well.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Well, you know what, there's another guy who I'm interested
in seeing how he looks and that's a CSU safety
Henry Blackburn.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Now see you fans.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Fans might not to bring up old stuff, but but
just for for this particular purpose, was the hit on
Travis Hunter that kind of removed him from the roster
for for a couple of weeks. You know, the one
thing I love about Blackburn is the way that he
plays the game.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
He's physical, no nonsense type of guy.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And I like those guys who you know, they really
don't give two Nichols about the situation you put them in.
And it's like one of those guys who you know,
if you ever went out and you need someone to
back you up in a bare knuckle fight. You know,
Blackburn seemed like he's going to be that tight you said,
dude can Yeah, yes, And I would love to see
him make that make this team because last year when
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you and I talked about it at nauseum last year,
the physicality that this team needs and the identity and
a lot of these players who are going to be
participating in the in this week's rookie mini camp, they
have an opportunity to stand out with the veterans not
being there, but also give the coaches an opportunity to go.
You know what, when they go back to watch film,
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there's something unique about this guy, and I want to
keep him around. I want to see if he responds
the same way that he responded with the rookies as
he does with the Vets.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, and I think, you know, there's a couple of
guys from this rookie mini camp that' at least make
the ninety man, you know, and get a chance to
to compete in training camp. We'll see how that goes.
One of the ones that I'm kind of have my
eye open about is Clay Webb. For those that don't know,
web is offensive lineman who started off at Georgia ended
up at Jacksonville State. Part of the reason he had
to transfer was because of an issue off the field
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that stems back to high school and it's out there
if you want to look it up. There are news
stories on it. I don't want to get into it
too much, but what he did was disgusting. So whether
or not he makes the team, he's been a guy
who was considered a very high, highly recruited high school prospect.
And you know, like I said, it was that Georgia
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wound up at Jacksonville State, and you know, went undrafted
although people had a draftable grade on there's still a
federal lawsuit against him that remains unresolved due to that
off field incident.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And we'll see. But he's a guy who can play.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Both center and guard positions, and if that stuff is
behind him, and that immaturity is behind him and he's
able to able to play, might be a diamond in
the rough for the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Now, great, you may like this. There's another camp invite
that really is familiar and close to your heart. Former
Michigan State. Not it's not Michigan State, but Michigan running
back Chris Evans, not the actor, not Captain America, but
Chris Evans has been invited to the Broncos camp. He
was drafted by your Cincinnati Bengals in the sixth round
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and two thousand and twenty one. So that's gonna be
interesting to see how he come he comes in, he responds,
because guess what, the Broncos they'll need running back out.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You're talking about the guy wh played the human Torch right, well,
he played Captain And if you watched Dead Pull and Wolverine,
yes you're familiar with that Yeah, No, I mean yeah,
and he's somebody like the Broncos are taking some chances
on some of this stuff, and you're okay because you're
at a you're at a position.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
With your roster construction where it's okay to take those
kind of chances.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Now you've built the floor up to the point where
most of the position groups are pretty pretty solid, pretty strong,
and so now you can start, you can afford to
take some chances on some guys and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know what I saw this early today when before
I came in and was doing some reading, and there
was a guy that you you talked about but I
know you love during the you know, pre draft process,
Montana State quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, yes, a Raider.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
He's a wide receiver now right, Yeah, well we know
he's going to projects as a wide receiver. But uh
when I saw that, that was the first thing I
thought was he could develop into their version.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
And I think it's temmy okay a lot, but.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
He's Taysom Hill kind of roll what not, just taste
some Hill.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I just thought maybe a more physical and athletic hunter
refro kinda I mean kinda.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, he's he's fast, I mean he's real fast. He's
faster than than taste me. And that's the biggest Taysom Hill.
But he's faster than than Taysom Hill was. And he'll
he'll play wide receiver. He'll get a little running back.
You know, they'll have some wildcat quarterback stuff for him
as well. His main position will be receiver, but they'll
use him as a gadget guy.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Did the Army running back get invited to I.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Didn't even look that?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Uh I was was I unplugged?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Wait? Wait?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Wait? After doing all that stuff last year, right, just
just talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Your guy, we could not make a move without here.
You're talking about your guy. You didn't even look him up.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Come on, Ben, I did not look to see if
you find.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Out you're slipping.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, I wonder if a team invited him to
participate as maybe a wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Or run it back.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I'm sure you got to invite somebody. I just unlugged.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
He was. He was great running the ball for Army.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh, he's phenomenal. I mean he he had better rushing
yardage than scab.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
You know, I can't helpless.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I'm just saying he was so good during the time
but you.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Make a wager on but you've just kind of lost
touch with him.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Huh, win any awards and just got shipped out of
Benjamin Albright's brain.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's what it was.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I can't do anything for me anymore. I can't bed
over on him.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
So beginning, I mean it was free money. I'm just saying,
I see, I see what you do, man, I say,
how you like it? Apparently the Eagles have have given
him a camp invite.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It does, it does a state whether it's a wide receiver,
running back. It actually listed him as a quarterback still,
so you know, I don't think that's a real thing.
But if you think about that offense where they do
have a lot of the re redoption stuff, you know,
he could probably play running back, quarterback, or receiver.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Not not much to the throwing, you know portion of
the court.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Well here's here's what we know.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
He could do very well. Run the ball. He can
do that. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
He was absolutely phenomenal running the running the football.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So much so that you thought he said be in
a running for the Heisman.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
He should have been in the running for In fact,
he finish. He wasn't running for the Highsman.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
He finished sixth in the voting, should.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Have been higher, just saying, ye had see he led
the NCAA with sixteen hundred and fifty nine yards and
thirty two rushing touchdowns, and yet again he didn't get drafted.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
You didn't six Just saying.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Hey, you go, my boy man, he's you know, he
said the FBS.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Record for most rushing touchdowns in a season quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I'm not hating on him. I'm just hating on the
fact that you just kind of lost touch with him
after just kind of building him up over the season.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Yeah, I think Nick and I both respect the young man,
thankful for his service and dedication to the country.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
We're just disappointed in you. Oh well that makes sense then.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
You know, thank you. Let's clarify that my disappointment is
Inbijemin Albright. That makes sense. Yes, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, he I mean he he owns the FBS record
for rushing touchdowns in a season by a quarterback, and hey,
Cam Newton, Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'm just saying Tim Tebow, so he should he should
get some run with Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Yeah you think so.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I mean they brought in two quarterbacks with that roster
that's already pretty you know, you've got J. J. McCarthy
and Sam Howell. There's a room for a third one,
you know. And Daily really is probably a half back
at the NFL level. And he six foot two twenty.
He's probably a half back at the NFL level.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
All you have to do if I'm Daily, I look
at Julian Elderman, who is going into I guess this
season the Ring of Fame for the New England Patriots.
And look at you know, Eleman. If I'm not mistaken,
he was a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
In college right Kent State.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yes, so it can.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Happen if you have those transferable skills, which you know
Daily has. He you know, run after catch, you to him,
catch it run yep.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
So that's to say he'll be a gadget guy for
somebody and hopefully it works out for him. If not,
he's got a pretty solid backup plan too, with an
engineering degree from you know, Army, So that'll work out
for him. Once again, we need to go pro in
something other. Look, man, we need those slot receivers. We
need those types of guys. Those guys make the game
so much better because they're harder to defend. Well, yeah,
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and he's I mean he is. I mean, he's obviously
a phenomenal athlete, you know, to be able to pull
off what he did. But you know, it's it's just
tough when you play at a service academy, it's tougher
to get drug. We had your boy on you went
to the Raiders, Trey Taylor. Yes, it's so tough to
get drafted out of those service academies to get go
to the NFL. And so for for daily getting a
(32:09):
chance to shine and do all that kind of stuff.
You know, you speaking, it was really quickly. I got
a question for you. I know you are a divn
Vley guy. Yes, you know, I think the guy, the
kid has a lot of talent. I wish him a
lot of success.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But you and I both spoke to Patrick Bryant right
after he was selected by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So if those two guys are competing.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
For okay, so so those two guys will be competing.
But if you you had to make the choice between
those two guys based on what you've seen thus far, right,
which guy with Benjamin Albright hang his head on.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Well this year Aley long term might be Pat Bryant.
I'm just saying has.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
An advantage, and he's already got a year in the system. Yes,
you know, and I mean and he's significantly older. So
for me, I think in the short term, I think
you put your hat on Valley. I didn't get a
long term though. You might be looking the other direction.
You don't put the tape on a Pat Brown.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I finally did that.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You had the actual tape, not the broadcasting with you
go put the tape in Mac who had that. Dude
was always open. He had a bum for a quarterback
up there at Illinois, But man, he was open.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Why you gotta call kid a boom?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Hey? Because if I throw better than you, you're a bum.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
I was watching some draft expert talk about it and
they called him noodle armed.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Quarterback.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I was bro If you know, we sitting here talk
about somebody having a cannon. That guy's got a water pistol.
He makes Chad Pennington look like Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Okay, did the Illinois quarterback throw better than Tim Tebow
who was drafted in the first round.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
You can find better?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Can you hit it right over?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I mean, I'm not saying it was Reggie Ball.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
And I'm on a personal here. I'm not saying it
was Reggie ball Man. All right, wow, wow, Reggie. Reggie
couldn't hit water if he fell.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Out on dude, stop stop, No, I'm not gonna know.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
You know, you know he had Calvin Johnson's Megatron in college.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Completion Percy had Megatron in college.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Megatron and throw it to him.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
He had Calvin Johnson in college and had a forty
percent completion percentage.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
At least he had a better spire. He had a
better spiral than Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Okay, fair, Yeah, he had a better spiral that could
often hit the cheerleaders and not his targets. A break,
I mean, we come back, broke cut through tonight.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
How much you want to make a bet I can
throw a football over the mountains,
I'm uh stayed away from cold tubs, man, hot tubs,
could tubs.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm just going to just stay away from those individuals
who were on the teams that Orlando Franklin.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Man, Yeah, those are some nasty dudes.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Man like you, you're just gonna You're just gonna go
in the tub.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Dude, I don't care what Orlando says. That's trifling because
you don't do that, and to suggest that someone else
had done it before you. You observed someone else doing it,
so you decided okay, then that makes it cool. Like, No,
I can expect that from the public pool, right, I
(00:40):
don't expect that from a professional setting. And you know,
being a former athlete myself, hot tubs cold tubs were
a huge part of what we did to just kind
of bring our legs back. So I can't say if
someone relieve themselves of their own adult fluid inside pool
before I got there, If it did, then they got me.
(01:05):
But normally openly knowing that this was the thing with
that particular team, it's utterly ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
They was unacceptable at the pool, right.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, you were swimming at there and that thing was
huge and had tons of chlorine in it. Like you
would you even.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Though like when I was a kid, I think every
kid was told us that you don't believe yourself in
the pool because they put a chemical in it. Right.
I never know if it was true or not, but
it scared me enough to know that I had to
get up out of the pool and go into the bathroom. Right,
But but what what drown? Not just men, but men
do that. I don't know who does that?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And then like like you know they did it, and
then you'll go get in that right after.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But also too, if you did it, why did you
not alert someone else that, Hey, a dog, you may
not want to go just.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Like when you go in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Hey man, you may not want to go in that.
I got the fan on, so you make me want
to wait.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Here's the spray? Yeah, you know, just yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Gotta get the pool when you gotta did you get
the person who's got to go clean that out?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Like what they got? They gotta drain that tub and
then put Philip back up. That's that's not a great teammate.
That's you're not being a great individual to do that.
There's no way you to justify Even though Orlando tried
his best to justify.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
He was making a point about people not being treated
the same because there was somebody who's superstarted.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It doesn't make a difference. You know they did it,
You did it, you saw them do it. Now now
we got a whole team full of cesspools.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, like, I'm never going to the hot tub at
Orlando's house. I mean not that I'm invited, but I
don't do it.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm just saying it's gonna come hot. Come. I'm not
doing it over there. Hey, hey, come over man. You
know we having a pool party this summer. Now, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Is it a pool party or a pool party, because
I want to know there's no peeing.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Don't make a difference.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I'm going to do what most African American people do
at pool parties.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Hang out on the staying on, staying on the edge.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You're not getting it, especially if you.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Are a rating woman. She is not getting the pool.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And if you mess her hair up, yeah, oh she's
not getting a pool like. Don't get it in the like. Okay, now,
I've been to some parties.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Now, okay, I've been to the barbecue.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah yeah, okay, they'll get into the.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Pool up to here.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
But then I getting up is not getting that and
you get water on the hair, it's your I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
What barbecues you've been invited to, but all the barbecues
that I've gone to pool parties right before the season start,
there are no African American women getting in the water.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
They're standing around the part I saw someone wait in
So maybe maybe it's a different crowd. And I don't know,
I'm saying, must must be a crowd that didn't get
their hair done. Well, they didn't get there their hairting
you wet, you get their hair wag one way the
other year.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It was over for you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I don't know what. Once again, I don't know what
pool parties. I'm just saying, but yes, yeah, that's yeah.
The text line's on fire with this. What's that the
text life? We don't swim in your toilet, don't pee
in our pool, exactly. I'm with you, right there with you.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Do you drink out of the toy No, exactly, I
mean unless you're thirsty. I caught somebody ben something about
you get to like you get the chemical in the tank.
So if you're drinking out of there, it's you know,
like you drink then I wouldn't know because I get
my water from a fall.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, with the filter the Britain. Yeah, I know all
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Don't want to say that you got the you know,
the thing you put in the tank and the toilet
that turns the water blue.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So why would you drink that anyway?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You know what? We used to have those when I
was a kid dropping, I would flush the toilet because
the stuff. But yeah, I haven't had one of those
in a while. But I dare not drink out of
the toilet, and uh, I dare not to relieve myself
in a public facility like the shower is unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Like when I was in the army.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
If you if you you know, you're NATed in the shot,
you're gonna get you ass kicked.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, that was one of the reasons why it was
kind of known that you wear shower shoes, because you
never know, you may have a Orlando Franklin who may
want to relieve themselves and you didn't want to be
stepping in it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Hey, I don't know anyway, Big showdon II romy Bean's
going to join us at seven o'clock hour, right, Michael,
uh as well. Nuggets blow out the Clippers in Game
seven one twenty one oh one. Our own grand Smith
was present that said drubbing of the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And then's to our chagrin, the Avalanche blew.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
A two goal lead to lose to the Stars four
to two in Game seven.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Rant In with the hat trick there and.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And the goal that went off to Skate there, that
was just at that point you were like, oh.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
That wrap around goal, you knew the Ads were in trouble. Yeah,
and yeah, I was talking to Nick about this before
the show. You know, maybe I'm not as big a
die hard as fan as I thought, because I was
pretty happy for Miko afterwards, you know, as he kind
of got forced out in Colorado and then traded again
from Carolina, which was kind of his own doin And
(05:56):
to have a hat trick and an assist against your
old team and a game seven and the player playoffs,
that's a pretty special moment. That's a legendary sports performance
that we got to see.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
See. I felt the same way, And know I'm not
abbod hockey fan. I didn't grow up with hockey, but
since living here in Denmer, you learn to appreciate the
players for what they do on the ice, but as
a guy that played a professional sport for more than
a decade, I appreciated what I saw from Miko Ranton
(06:27):
it because at the beginning of the series against the Stars,
I mean, he couldn't buy a puck, and I'm sure
he was down on himself. But just think about it.
After game six, where the Abs kind of scored seven goals,
you were just like, okay, well, game seven, this should
be not easy. But the Abs are walking there with
(06:47):
a whole bunch of confidence. But to know that a
guy that you traded one of your own, he was
the one to kind of knock you off the pedestal,
take you off the chessboard, if you will. And knowing
his though it was the third period, if I'm not mistaken,
Grant may have been about thirteen minutes remaining in that
third period. Yeah, and there were so many people who decided,
(07:09):
what this is the third period? The ads up to nothing,
this is over, I'm going outside the celebrating alrighty, yes,
Papa bottles. And then all of a sudden he came
back and like, what the hell happened?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, because you were so elated from watching the Nuggets
just run the Clippers out of the gym, which is
fascinating because the Nuggets had looked kind of tired in
that game six. You know, you saw tired knees and
were elevated on jump shots. Nicolea wouldn't getting hands up,
you know, on shots and.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Stuff like that. And then they come back in game seven,
they just they just.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Blew the doors off. And it started right off the
break with Christian Brown.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
And then by thirty three after russ Is dunk and
getting the technical and everybody that was the happiest technical
foul I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
College did not care at that end thirty I'm hanging
on the rim, I'm celebrating whatever.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
But this is the Dagger. It was such an awesome part.
That was an atmosphere that I feel very lucky to
be a part of. But yeah, then it was all
quick taken away when you went home and watched the
end of the APPS game.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, when you think about the game, it has two
revenge parallels. You know, Russell playing against his former team,
the Clippers, and how when you play against your former team,
how usually a player elevates his level play. And you
have Niko Ranton and elevating his level play on behalf
(08:24):
of the Stars and Russell versus his former team the Clippers, right,
And when you think about Russ going in, there was
so much negative stuff said about Russ and what was
going to happen after Michael Malone was fired. And Michael
Malone really loved and liked the way that Russell played
the game, and maybe he rubbed some of the players wrong,
and there was a lot of backlash. Well, maybe you know,
(08:48):
jaln Pickas should start over Russ. And I'm like, well,
Russ is who he is, right, And when you think
about the numbers, fourteen points, five rebounds through assists, and
he made forty two percent of his threes. Two percent
of his threes he made And that was a problem
for the Nuggets because I did was like, well, where
are you going to get that perimeter shooting from? But
I want to read something, you know, to you guys
(09:08):
that comment after the game seven win that Russell said,
and I have you guys, you know, respond to him.
He said, I pride myself on being a forcesome nature
on the floor. It may be a turnover, maybe a mishot,
it may be a steal, maybe a dunk, maybe a
miss three, maybe a May three, no matter whatever it is,
it's going to be all of that. So take it
(09:32):
how it comes. You know, Russell Westbrook and when you
hear a player who knows what people are saying about him,
how sporadic his game can be. But for me, looking
at the Nuggets, you need that style of play, someone
to be somewhat of a spark. And you look at
game six, and you look at game seven. I mean,
(09:53):
I will say that Russell in this play was a
spark because Tyl Low was gonna leave him out there
to shoot to open jumper right right here, gonna leave
him out there. But Russell, I'm like, okay, you're gonna
leave me out here. Jump now. Now they're playing, Okay,
see will he be able to duplicate that right? I'm
hoping he would because if he does, that gives them
(10:15):
a chance against the younger team. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I mean for us, I think it's it's really more
that live by die by. I think Nuggets fans are
probably a little bit more upset at the boneheaded move
sometimes that he has for a guy that's been in
the league forever, Like there, there's I'm like, bro that's
that's basketball, Like you right there, like what are you doing?
And I appreciate his hustle. I appreciate you know, I
(10:38):
under I'm fine with them with misshots and things like that.
It's the basketball like hug stuff for me that I'm like, whoa.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But once again, and he said it himself, you got
to take the bidder with the suite when it comes
to him, because his energy is going to allow him
to get to the basket because he's rushing down the court.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
For a layup.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah. Also it's energy because he's rusted down the court
may turn the ball over in And from a coaching standpoint,
I would say this, And I love players who I
would rather have to turn them down than to turn
them up. Okay, right, yeah, because because I want a
player to go out and play full speed. And the
whole idea is that I'd rather you go make a
(11:18):
mistake full speed then make a mistake just kind of
locks of days ago. So I'm okay with with what
Russ is doing. I'm okay with it because you know,
sometimes those plays are going to be negative, but sometimes
those plays are going to be positive. And the one
guy that loves it the most is the guy that
does for him and the Kola Jokids.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, I think that it's just it's one of those
things that drives coaches mad. Though coaches love stability, right
like you think about it, think about from the NFL perspective.
You know, you got a boom er bust player or whatever,
maybe at the quarterback position. It's why a lot of
guys don't get chances that they probably need to develop
and become what they could is because they're so high variants.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You know, you don't know what you're getting out of there.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
You're gonna have one spectacular play where some quarterback breaks
a sack, he scrambled around for a bunch, makes a
big play, and then you know he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Take a sacert.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I mean, we're describing a different russ in this scenario
and Russell Wilson. But you know, there's there is sort
of a a It drives coaches nuts not to have
the stability. They would rather have the stability than and
the and the known outcome than the high variance guy
who can do those things.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Though. But you but you you know that about the
guy that that you're dealing with, especially if he's a
veteran and you've seen him play because like, you know
how consistent he is, but you also know how inconsistent
he is, right and having a player and that that.
I used to say this when I when I was
at Georgia Tech talking about the Blue the Blue Devils,
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I mean they had well, no you know what I
would think of it, But knowing as though those shooters
on every Duke team dating back to when Chris and
Latner was there, They're gonna shoot you either in the
games or they're gonna shoot you out of games. J. J.
Ruddick was definitely that type of player and as an
NBA player, But for me, at least you know what
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you were getting in that player, and some players you
have you have no idea. I'd rather go on a
game knowing as though, well, you know what, this could
be great for us, it could be bad for us,
depending on whatever night it is. But at least I
know what I'm going to get from this player, and
I'm gonna get a whole bunch of energy.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, And there is something to that for a team
that's just thin on the bench, as the Nuggets are having,
me having a Russell Westbrook that can come in and
keep pumping the pace up and you don't have to
slow it down, and you know, and play possession ball
till you guys get a breather and then come back on.
You could put Russ Westbrook in and the pace it
might even go up when he's in there.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
You know what was crazy? And if I'm Tyler and
I'm Steve Balmer, I'm just upset with the defensive effort
of the Clippers in Game seven, especially James Harden. When
Russ shot the free throw right and he was able
to get to the rim and get the put back
and James har are still standing in place, I was like, Yeah,
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this is bad. But once again, that speaks to the
level of energy that Russell brings to any basketball game
and known as though he's playing against his former team,
guess what, he's gonna be gassed up again.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I mean, I think that's a thing. Is this the
Russell Westbrook revenge Tour? Because I think you kind of
can use that as a win one for the Gipper,
like in the sense that the rest of the team
can rally around and Russ wants to put it to
all these teams that passed on him while he's here
with us.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I don't think they. I don't think there's a player
or someone in the Nuggets front office that has to
tell Russ that.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
No, not Russ, I'm talking about the other guys, the
Michael Porters, the Christian Brown's.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I mean, Brown's an energy guy.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But there are there are days where you see Porter,
especially Porter, even Gordon sometimes where they're eighty percent of
themselves out there. Sometimes I'm not saying mail it in
because I'm not. You know, they're a pro athlete and
I'm some dork or the microphone, but you know what
I me like, there are days where they are certainly
not playing as energetically as they do others.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, this is why when before Russell came, I was
a huge advocate for him of coming here. I mean,
you lose Bruce Brown, you lose KCP. It was like, well,
who is going to be the energy guy? We know
that Eric Going was a defensive guy, but where was
the energy going to come from? Because as talented as
Nicola Jokic is, he's not going He's not that That's no,
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that's not his role. So saying okay, well, bringing in
Russ as sporadic as he is, he's going to intensify
the defensive effort because how.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Wild he is.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's almost like a kid hopped up on sugar, right,
So it's going to feed all these different players. And
more importantly for me, I wanted to wanted to defeat
Jamal Murray. But it seems as though it's impacted Kristen
Brown more than it has Jamal Murray. And either way,
it still bows well for the Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, and then I mean, and that's fine, You're gonna
have to have guys step up. Nicola didn't really I
mean in that game seven, he had but sixteen points.
That wasn't really his his game, but everybody else stepped
up in that game.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Well yeah, and that's what I was going to say,
is that Jamal and Joker didn't even have great games,
either of them. So a lot of guys did step up.
They're just gonna have to continue to do so against Oka.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
See.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, you're that this is going to be a real
test because you're a team with a perilously thin bench
against probably the deepest team in the league in ok See.
They're good on offense, they're great on defense, and there's
a reason that they won as many games as they
did and swept the Grizzlies.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
The Grizzlies were a.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Fifty plus win team and they swept them like it
wasn't even like they didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Even put effort in.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
You know, the one thing you're hoping if you're the Nuggets,
you're hoping that okay see, is a little rusty from
sitting there waiting on you to finish the series, and
it takes them a minute and maybe you can catch
them napping for a for an opening game.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
See. That's one way to look at it. But also
you say, okay, if you okay see, you had a
chance to get rest, to watch those games and prepare
for what the Nuggets were throwing at the Clippers, because, yeah,
is there a case where the Nuggets could catch ok
se just chilling lunching because they had so much sime off. Yes,
But the flip side of that coin is you also
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have a Nuggets team that's a little exhausted because they're
coming off of Game seven. They had one day off,
one day off, and if I'm okay see, I'm going
to continue to push the pace. Right, It's almost like.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
A game high rotation, high pace game.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It's like, you know, like a pitch facing a good picture.
You got to get him up in his pitch count.
I would run, run, run, And this is a team
and okay, see that they have multiple two way players.
They got young team, they got Chet Holmgren and they
got Shay And the first thing I thought about this
man and you have to go back to I think
it's on Netflix. It's called Olympic Goal where you saw
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all the teams last year going for the for the
gold medal in basketball. You know of that team, they
had six players who were in the playoffs right off
Team Canada. But you know who was on Team Canada
that really did show up, Jamal Murray. So Jamala knows
(18:10):
Shy and Shy knows Jamal. So this is gonna be
one of those series where it's not just going to
be about well proposed MVP, Nicolo, Jokish and Sha But
to me, it's gonna be like, well are we going
to see playoff.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Jamal multiple times? Rocos Country Night be back after this.
I can't read it on the air. But thanks to
the four one seven who sent that story about basically
training with the Air Force that thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I needed that in my life. Five six six nine zeros.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
The text line Rocco's rookie Mini Caamp coming up this weekend.
Is there anybody you're excited in particular to see here
at Mini Caamp?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Wow? Okay, the number of players I'm gonna see Bryant,
I want to see RJ. Harvey. Hell, you know what,
I'm want to see all the guys, all of them.
I want to see them because I have to tell you,
when you first get to an NFL Mini camp, I mean,
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your eyes are just a wonder because now you finally
made it to a place that you dripped about for
so many years. Now you are one of those guys.
You're in the room, you have one of those jerseys,
and watching the guys when they walk out on the
field for the first time with the coaches and they
get to compete and interact with one another, to see,
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that's going to be a thing of beauty and that's
where memories are made. Because let's be let's be frank
about the situation. Everyone that's being invited to camp will
not actually go to training camp. There are a lot
of guys who being asked to come in just for
camp body purposes. You need another quarterback, you need another
wide receiver. But for those guys who are going to
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be expected to make the team, the guys who were
drafted to me, it's going to be great to see
those guys go out and compete. Yeah, I think so,
and it's it's nice.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I mean, Rookie mini camp is is a little bit
different because you know, you're not gonna have the vets there.
It's just gonna be a bunch of the rookies, and
there will be people that stand out, relatively speaking, because
a lot of the bodies that are there undrafted guys
that are just hoping to get a shot, you know,
one last shot, one of which I don't know if
you remember.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Mark Cooper, but his son is actually going to be
really out there.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Son's actually good out there play ball at Lyndon Wood
as an offensive lineman.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
So he's gonna be out there.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
But there's there's there's a lot of undrafted guys that
will be out there, and it's interesting to see who
shows out of these kinds of things. I will say
when he when he was there, Drew Sanders was one
man wrecking crew the year he was doing Rookie Mini Camp.
I mean, it was like that dude was everywhere and
has yet to really make an impact with the Broncos,
you know overall, So some of the stuff that comes
out of that can be a little bit you know,
(20:48):
it can be a little bit over runt.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
But I definitely want to see some of these guys.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I want to see the punter sees leg at altitude
and kind of see what we got there. I'd like
to see, you know, the speed r J. Harvey and
you mentioned Pat Bryant. Of course, you want to see
Jane Baron out there. You know that kind of stuff.
You want to see your your upper drafted guys showing on.
You want to see who the diamonds in the rough are.
And I think that that's for me. I think that
that's you know what I'll have my eye on.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Well, there's gonna be a lot of diamonds in the
rough in what's happening with the Broncos at the linebacker
position with Drake Greenlaw being out for maybe about eight
weeks and now give other guys an opportunity to kind
of flash and then show themselves. I mentioned this once
before as an undrafted linebacker out of Utah, Kareem Reid
(21:31):
right and I know when you look at the merasureable,
someone would say, well, he's on the smaller side. But
for me, he reminds me of not e Xac Kamp
because I don't like to do comps, but just the
way that he plays the game Zach Thomas. And I
know Zach Thomas is a Hall of Famer, but when
this is me playing against Zach Thomas being considered to
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be an undersized linebacker but having the football smarts to
know how to put himself in the right place to
make a play even though the speed may be lacking
in that particular area. I think Green Reed can be
that type of player. And I like the way he
plays and uses his hands. As Mike lionbacker, you you
must be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, he's uh and he's one of those that people
have an eye on his zavior trust the the interior
lineman out of Georgia. I think he's probably one that
almost the undrafted guys, that's probably I would say to
play the best bet to make the roster.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Johnny Walker out of Missouri.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
The past which Johnny Walker, we'll we'll call him blue
because one of my father knows Johnny Walker doesn't really
well we're gonna call him blue, but h Walker Uh
was you know Sam's tri and Bowl and he had
a good Shrine Bowl.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Eighty pressures in eighteen sacks last year Missouri. He was
very statistically accomplished. The problem is you put on the
tape and he's a one trick pony. But you know,
maybe he can learn to diversify that set of pass
rush moves instead of just blowing by guys, you know,
to try to get the quarterbacks. So I, you know,
kind of interested to see what he can do out
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there as well as a couple of the guys. Jamie
Brown's another linebacker now he's out of Kansas, another undersized
linebacker out of Kansas. But he's another instinct the guy
that'll be that'll be interesting to see him at Courty Jackson.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
He's a wide receiver out of Arkansas State, and he
has some kick return ability. He's an explosive receiver, and
he he has some ability on special teams. So maybe
there's a better shot for him than than maybe some
of these other guys because he does have that additional
ability as well.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Well, you know what, there's another guy who I'm interested
in seeing how he looks and that's a CSU safety
Henry Blackburn.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Now see you fans.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Fans might not to bring up old stuff, but but
just for for this particular purpose, was the hit on
Travis Hunter that kind of removed him from the roster
for for a couple of weeks. You know, the one
thing I love about Blackburn is the way that he
plays the game.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
He's physical, no nonsense type of guy.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And I like those guys who you know, they really
don't give two Nichols about the situation you put them in.
And it's like one of those guys who you know,
if you ever went out and you need someone to
back you up in a bare knuckle fight. You know,
Blackburn seemed like he's going to be that tight you said,
dude can Yeah, yes, And I would love to see
him make that make this team because last year when
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you and I talked about it at nauseum last year,
the physicality that this team needs and the identity and
a lot of these players who are going to be
participating in the in this week's rookie mini camp, they
have an opportunity to stand out with the veterans not
being there, but also give the coaches an opportunity to go.
You know what, when they go back to watch film,
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there's something unique about this guy, and I want to
keep him around. I want to see if he responds
the same way that he responded with the rookies as
he does with the Vets.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, and I think, you know, there's a couple of
guys from this rookie mini camp that' at least make
the ninety man, you know, and get a chance to
to compete in training camp. We'll see how that goes.
One of the ones that I'm kind of have my
eye open about is Clay Webb. For those that don't know,
web is offensive lineman who started off at Georgia ended
up at Jacksonville State. Part of the reason he had
to transfer was because of an issue off the field
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that stems back to high school and it's out there
if you want to look it up. There are news
stories on it. I don't want to get into it
too much, but what he did was disgusting. So whether
or not he makes the team, he's been a guy
who was considered a very high, highly recruited high school prospect.
And you know, like I said, it was that Georgia
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wound up at Jacksonville State, and you know, went undrafted
although people had a draftable grade on there's still a
federal lawsuit against him that remains unresolved due to that
off field incident.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And we'll see. But he's a guy who can play.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Both center and guard positions, and if that stuff is
behind him, and that immaturity is behind him and he's
able to able to play, might be a diamond in
the rough for the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Now, great, you may like this. There's another camp invite
that really is familiar and close to your heart. Former
Michigan State. Not it's not Michigan State, but Michigan running
back Chris Evans, not the actor, not Captain America, but
Chris Evans has been invited to the Broncos camp. He
was drafted by your Cincinnati Bengals in the sixth round
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and two thousand and twenty one. So that's gonna be
interesting to see how he come he comes in, he responds,
because guess what, the Broncos they'll need running back out.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You're talking about the guy wh played the human Torch right, well,
he played Captain And if you watched Dead Pull and Wolverine,
yes you're familiar with that Yeah, No, I mean yeah,
and he's somebody like the Broncos are taking some chances
on some of this stuff, and you're okay because you're
at a you're at a position.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
With your roster construction where it's okay to take those
kind of chances.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Now you've built the floor up to the point where
most of the position groups are pretty pretty solid, pretty strong,
and so now you can start, you can afford to
take some chances on some guys and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You know what I saw this early today when before
I came in and was doing some reading, and there
was a guy that you you talked about but I
know you love during the you know, pre draft process,
Montana State quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, yes, a Raider.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
He's a wide receiver now right, Yeah, well we know
he's going to projects as a wide receiver. But uh
when I saw that, that was the first thing I
thought was he could develop into their version.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
And I think it's temmy okay a lot, but.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
He's Taysom Hill kind of roll what not, just taste
some Hill.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I just thought maybe a more physical and athletic hunter
refro kinda I mean kinda.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, he's he's fast, I mean he's real fast. He's
faster than than taste me. And that's the biggest Taysom Hill.
But he's faster than than Taysom Hill was. And he'll
he'll play wide receiver. He'll get a little running back.
You know, they'll have some wildcat quarterback stuff for him
as well. His main position will be receiver, but they'll
use him as a gadget guy.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Did the Army running back get invited to I.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Didn't even look that?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Uh I was was I unplugged?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Wait? Wait?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Wait? After doing all that stuff last year, right, just
just talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Your guy, we could not make a move without here.
You're talking about your guy. You didn't even look him up.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Come on, Ben, I did not look to see if
you find.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Out you're slipping.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I mean, I wonder if a team invited him to
participate as maybe a wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Or run it back.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I'm sure you got to invite somebody. I just unlugged.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
He was. He was great running the ball for Army.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh, he's phenomenal. I mean he he had better rushing
yardage than scab.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
You know, I can't helpless.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I'm just saying he was so good during the time
but you.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Make a wager on but you've just kind of lost
touch with him.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Huh, win any awards and just got shipped out of
Benjamin Albright's brain.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's what it was.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I can't do anything for me anymore. I can't bed
over on him.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
So beginning, I mean it was free money. I'm just saying,
I see, I see what you do, man, I say,
how you like it? Apparently the Eagles have have given
him a camp invite.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It does, it does a state whether it's a wide receiver,
running back. It actually listed him as a quarterback still,
so you know, I don't think that's a real thing.
But if you think about that offense where they do
have a lot of the re redoption stuff, you know,
he could probably play running back, quarterback, or receiver.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Not not much to the throwing, you know portion of
the court.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Well here's here's what we know.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
He could do very well. Run the ball. He can
do that. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
He was absolutely phenomenal running the running the football.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So much so that you thought he said be in
a running for the Heisman.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
He should have been in the running for In fact,
he finish. He wasn't running for the Highsman.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
He finished sixth in the voting, should.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Have been higher, just saying, ye had see he led
the NCAA with sixteen hundred and fifty nine yards and
thirty two rushing touchdowns, and yet again he didn't get drafted.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
You didn't six Just saying.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Hey, you go, my boy man, he's you know, he
said the FBS.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Record for most rushing touchdowns in a season quarterback.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I'm not hating on him. I'm just hating on the
fact that you just kind of lost touch with him
after just kind of building him up over the season.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Yeah, I think Nick and I both respect the young man,
thankful for his service and dedication to the country.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
We're just disappointed in you. Oh well that makes sense then.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
You know, thank you. Let's clarify that my disappointment is
Inbijemin Albright. That makes sense. Yes, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, he I mean he he owns the FBS record
for rushing touchdowns in a season by a quarterback, and hey,
Cam Newton, Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'm just saying Tim Tebow, so he should he should
get some run with Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Yeah you think so.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I mean they brought in two quarterbacks with that roster
that's already pretty you know, you've got J. J. McCarthy
and Sam Howell. There's a room for a third one,
you know. And Daily really is probably a half back
at the NFL level. And he six foot two twenty.
He's probably a half back at the NFL level.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
All you have to do if I'm Daily, I look
at Julian Elderman, who is going into I guess this
season the Ring of Fame for the New England Patriots.
And look at you know, Eleman. If I'm not mistaken,
he was a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
In college right Kent State.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yes, so it can.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Happen if you have those transferable skills, which you know
Daily has. He you know, run after catch, you to him,
catch it run yep.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
So that's to say he'll be a gadget guy for
somebody and hopefully it works out for him. If not,
he's got a pretty solid backup plan too, with an
engineering degree from you know, Army, So that'll work out
for him. Once again, we need to go pro in
something other. Look, man, we need those slot receivers. We
need those types of guys. Those guys make the game
so much better because they're harder to defend. Well, yeah,
(31:47):
and he's I mean he is. I mean, he's obviously
a phenomenal athlete, you know, to be able to pull
off what he did. But you know, it's it's just
tough when you play at a service academy, it's tougher
to get drug. We had your boy on you went
to the Raiders, Trey Taylor. Yes, it's so tough to
get drafted out of those service academies to get go
to the NFL. And so for for daily getting a
(32:09):
chance to shine and do all that kind of stuff.
You know, you speaking, it was really quickly. I got
a question for you. I know you are a divn
Vley guy. Yes, you know, I think the guy, the
kid has a lot of talent. I wish him a
lot of success.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But you and I both spoke to Patrick Bryant right
after he was selected by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So if those two guys are competing.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
For okay, so so those two guys will be competing.
But if you you had to make the choice between
those two guys based on what you've seen thus far, right,
which guy with Benjamin Albright hang his head on.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Well this year Aley long term might be Pat Bryant.
I'm just saying has.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
An advantage, and he's already got a year in the system. Yes,
you know, and I mean and he's significantly older. So
for me, I think in the short term, I think
you put your hat on Valley. I didn't get a
long term though. You might be looking the other direction.
You don't put the tape on a Pat Brown.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I finally did that.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You had the actual tape, not the broadcasting with you
go put the tape in Mac who had that. Dude
was always open. He had a bum for a quarterback
up there at Illinois, But man, he was open.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Why you gotta call kid a boom?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Hey? Because if I throw better than you, you're a bum.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
I was watching some draft expert talk about it and
they called him noodle armed.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Quarterback.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I was bro If you know, we sitting here talk
about somebody having a cannon. That guy's got a water pistol.
He makes Chad Pennington look like Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Okay, did the Illinois quarterback throw better than Tim Tebow
who was drafted in the first round.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
You can find better?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Can you hit it right over?
Speaker 1 (33:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I mean, I'm not saying it was Reggie Ball.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
And I'm on a personal here. I'm not saying it
was Reggie ball Man. All right, wow, wow, Reggie. Reggie
couldn't hit water if he fell.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Out on dude, stop stop, No, I'm not gonna know.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
You know, you know he had Calvin Johnson's Megatron in college.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Completion Percy had Megatron in college.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Megatron and throw it to him.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
He had Calvin Johnson in college and had a forty
percent completion percentage.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
At least he had a better spire. He had a
better spiral than Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Okay, fair, Yeah, he had a better spiral that could
often hit the cheerleaders and not his targets. A break,
I mean, we come back, broke cut through tonight.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
How much you want to make a bet I can
throw a football over the mountains,
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