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Speaker 1 (00:00):
By Justin Adams. Nay, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Brother?

Speaker 3 (00:04):
You doing the Hall of Fame voice?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
We got the Hall of Famer Steve Atwater over here?
Is that seer's back there? That dude's decked head to
toe and nuggets regalia. If if anybody is if if
we win, it's because of him. If we lose, it's
because that is exactly like you have to burn all
that if it if it doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm just saying, he said, it's not fair. Say wait
a minute, I paid good money to this.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Do you know what I make over here? No? I
really appreciate you offering to buy me a new jersey Ben. Yeah,
wow as a radio pro move right there, Well done, sir,
Well done to you. My man.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh we're going.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
What play is this? Wis? I come in and you
guys are talking about some speech you gained, man, and
then Steve's talking about people crying and them. He goes to,
all right, so I had a speech at the Colorado
Sports Hall of Fame.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
So that it was about a month ago or something
like that. So so I how it is?

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Well?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I mean, you know I had you all right. I
was born to call you. You gonna call me is
going to see what it happened? Was ye, see what happened? Yeah,
it just never never pressent. But so Theodore Bubbles Anderson,
who was the only Colorado native to play the Negro
League so grew up in five points, helped him get
inducted into the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame. Now here's

(01:13):
the thing about Bubbles Anderson is that his family we
don't know about at all. He didn't he wasn't married,
didn't have any kids. And so when they went around
and said, hey, justin do you know any aunts or uncles, cousins,
I said, I have no idea any descendants of Bubbles Anderson.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
And he passed away in nineteen forty three, right, So
so you're doing it like a.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Twenty three and me trying to swamp. Yeah, I was
just like, hey, come on, come on, black person, come on,
come over here.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
You look like it.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
So but pretty much just came down to they said, hey,
you do the speech.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
And so for me doing a speech, I was writing
it out and everything. And it's a be seven years
to get him into the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
You've been then, brother, Yeah, baying that table for seven years.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
And the year before he was one vote short from
being in a Colorado say, so he really meant a
lot to be able to go and get him there,
and so there's a lot of emotion that came out.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Man, I wrote that bad Boy.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well, I practiced it several times too, and every time
I got towards the end, I was like, oh, man,
you go cry over here.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
So I was telling myself. I was like, Man, tell me,
what was it?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
What about it made you this? You don't put so
much time into it? And ld his story.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah, put so much time, and I understood the weight
of the of the history. Right, this is something where
the only Colorado native, so he's the only guy who
represents us from Colorado in the Negro leagues.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Like that's it.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
And we're talking about a young man who played in
the Negro Leagues when he was seventeen, So we're talking
about he's played with grown men as in Hall of
Famers with the Kansas City Monarchs and they he played
for several other teams too, but his career was cut
short at the age of twenty.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
So he had an illness.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
He was coming from actually was going to Kansas City
because he played with the Indianapolis ABC's as well. Look
it up if you don't know about these teams of
fantastic teams with the Negro leagues. And he had an
illness and so he had to go from Kansas City
and go home. And that's so I would imagine you
took a train right at that time. We don't have
interstates at that time. And he never played again, was

(03:12):
a janitor, served in World War Two, and then the
day that he passed away. And the only way that
I know this is because I have his death certificate,
is that he was found dead at six o'clock in
the morning at his parents' house. So when you think
about everything, you find all these The thing that got
me though, was that this happened so long ago. Yeah,

(03:34):
and my head's off to you for becoming that passionate
about it. I appreciate it, you know what I'm saying,
because hey, that that that that took, that took such
guil man.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, research and not losing that to history like that
SPE's a part of history. It's like, that's part of
the history of Colorado. It's not just like you know,
I don't want take anything away from African Americans. This
is part of the history of Colorado and now letting
that now that slip through the So that was my message.
I mean, let's be honest, we all know about that.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
There are some people who don't like certain parts of
history for whatever ethnicities, for whatever reasons you want to.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Let's just call it what it is.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
But my thing was this is that you can never
erase a history that is embraced by everybody.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
So, yes, it is African American history, but it is
also Colorado sports history. And that's the biggest thing that
I wanted to push out to everyone. Everyonets to know
about theater Bubba's Anderson. Everybody could look up and say,
wait a minute, a.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Teenager played in the Negro leagues and third year of existence,
like that's crazy. Well that's what he did, and so
it was and also opportunity to talk about him. Why'd
you grownd up? I cry?

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Because so I'm the type of person who loves history,
and I could identify with him because I stopped playing
football to say, it's about around the same age that
he stopped played too. So I was twenty one when
you know, I decided to walk away from football and say, hey,
I needed to get a degree from the University of
Colorado as a walk on, and so I identified with that.
And then I'm like, wow, this is something like you

(05:00):
made an impact, Like it's crazy to say that you
have done something on this earth. Well, you know, you've
made an impact for the greater of good and this
is truly something for the great of goods. So I
felt all that the impact up there, and then uh,
I just wanted to make sure that I had a
great speech, Like I wanted to make sure that it
was moving, that it really that I give.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
I know it's crazy, I tell you. I'll tell you
as I come. I come from a family of speech writers.
I've go written some you know, some stuff like that.
My my uncle Charles alright, was a speechwriter for the Rockefellers.
I will tell you there's nothing better than something you
wrote getting that ovation. Yeah, there is. There is no
better feeling said than the words that you put being
prosaic enough to bring people to their feet and in
recognition of somebody who deserved it.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, it's saucy.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Man.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Well, so let me give you one thing real quick,
and I know we're going to talk about Broncos we
got a lot of different ways to talk about.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
But if you want to know just how connected we
are to that.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
So where we were at the hotel, so at the
the Sheridan, where we at the you know, the Hilton,
I think something like that. Yes, seventeen oh one, you
know the hill up there. So we're a mile exactly
a mile away from where he passed away.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Here's another thing you said that.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
The owner, so he played for the Denver White Elephants,
which is the longest lasting all black baseball team at Colorado.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
They played from nineteen fifteen to nineteen thirty five.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
The owner of the Dinver White Elephants was a guy
by the name of Albert Henderson Wade Ross. You could
see his building today, the Rossonian at five points he's
still standing. Yeah. So when you think about, yeah, it's
been eighty two years is bubbles Anderson passed away, we
are still extremely closely connected to everything that's happening.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
So that's what makes it so so moving for.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Me to be able to talk about, Yeah, well were
you guys coming in there and Steve was talking about
the wait.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Wait, you brought the room to tears.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, that's that's some powerful writing. If you bring your
you know what's coming and you still bring yourself that
kind of stuff. I look, I hats off and like
I said, that's a that's a great thing and well
deserved that he finally got in. You know it took
a while week down, you finally got him in. And
I know that's always a preciated around here. Just look
for my invite next year. Sure, I'll make sure I

(07:05):
hit you up an until you know, I'm gonna write
it right now, they said. They said, uh yeah, I
got to the door and they were like the Hall
of Shames, like three three hours down. Buddy said, there
right now it is get anywhere I might be able
to talk Hallway and we'll see. You got schedules out,
Broncos schedules out. I don't know if you guys had
a chance to peruse this thing. I looked at it.

(07:27):
It's tough schedule, Yeah, that early stretch man, I that
looks rough like that. The more I sit with it,
the worst it guess. Because you're sitting there with the
Monday night football game against the Cincinnati Bengals, saying while
they don't have much on defense and they got a
high octane offense, you're gonna have to You have to
be on your until that night. Then you've got a
short week because you've got that Monday night game. Now
you've got a short week to go on the East
coast to play the raining Super Bowl champion of Philadelphia

(07:50):
Eagles in an early morning game with eleven o'clock kickoff,
and you're leaving that to go to London to play
the Jets. Come back with no bye. We can play
the Giants coming off fifteen days rest on a third
than that football game. Oh my lord, you gotta do
what you gotta do. The Giants still, I mean, the
Giants still think. I mean, no, not, but but it

(08:11):
is the NFL. You know about the STEVENFL is the NFL.
Anybody could beat you at any given day. Now win
football games, well, well you could say football game. I mean,
I don't want to say a plural, but football game.
But you know, looking at the schedule though the first four,
but the first four of the six games will be
on the road.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
I think that Philly game is a schedule loss. I mean,
it's just kind of it is what it is. It's
one of those games where.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Hey, whoa you say what you know? Steves we're going seventeen.
Do you take me going seventeen to I didn't say that. Okay,
Why am I just gonna call the Philly game.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
A loss?

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Right now? I mean you're playing on Monday night. I
know you have the crey up. You've taken on the Bengals. No, no,
Philly on Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
No no, no, no, no, no more morning. It was
Sunday afternoon. You can say, well, your body clock says
Sunday morning. And the type of game that you're going
to play against Philly, they're going to run that rock. Okay,
we're going all day. Okay, all right, all right.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I mean now you have a great chance because of
your defense to stay in it.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Now, hey, when you close to the game, we called
me out.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
We're going, oh man, you know I'm gonna call you brother.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
We're gonna put.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Hold on brother.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
By by I'm raising twenty five, you can put you.
Steve must be about that life. If it's you're throwing
two quarters on it. I just think that there's certain
games that would is it would have been difficult.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
We got a squad, man, we got a squad.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
And I know we got give it Sunday man. I
got you hear you on that let me week cross
country and you're going it's going to be extremely Emotionalnati's.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
A bunch of money out because they've been for they've
been with everybody thinks Eagles gonna gonna take it.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
The one thing I will say that maybe a saving
grace here is that Kellen Moore is now the head
coach in Orlands Saints breaking a new offensive coordinator there
in Philadelphia we're catching fairly early in the season.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
And Kevin Patullo, who to.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
My knowledge, I don't believe he's ever actually been an
offensive coordinator before at any level, never been a play
color at any level.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
So you guys have both seen it time and time
again where a new coach comes in and gets a
new offensive coordinator whatever, and they don't have the same
We saw it last year.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
They don't have the same relationship with the quarterback time
and it's different. We saw it. We saw that as
a matter of fact, when Shane Stiken left the Eagles
and went Toy'd be the head coach the Colts. Uh
they had had an offensive coordator and there they just
did not, And they brought Kellen Mordan for the one
season I win the Super Bowl vaults him to it.
Of course they still have Vic Fangio in that defense
over there, and yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Be a tough ass.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
But as we look at your schedule, I mean, I
think if you could find a way to get through
week six at three and three or four and two,
I think you're real happy about that.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Boy, I don't know, man, we gotta be better. Hopefully
will be better than that. But this is a tough schedule.
This is a tough schedule.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I mean the Chargers, they got j Yeah, I will go.
You got the Tessee Titans. You open it up at
the rookie for that's probably gonna be a probably well man,
you can slip and fallow and fumble the ball like
I think it happened. That is true because football is
that game. But anything happens. But probably gonna be a

(11:29):
dad you know. Yeah not. My wallet will be wagering
on the Broncos in that one. Yes, uh, And I'll
wager a little more than fifty cent over there. My
wager the whole dollars steave maybe one BTC. We'll see.
Then you go. Then we're at the Colts. We started
a two game roads span. We're at the Indianapolis Colts.
I figures will probably be a w as well. We
don't know who the quarterbacks is gonna be there where

(11:50):
there's Anthony Richards and Daniel Jones the Colts. I can't
even imagine what training camp is going to be, Like, Yeah,
I think Jones probably wins that one too. I mean
a rich has better tools for Jones, more consistent. I
think I think Andy Richards is gonna be out as quarterback.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Colson is this is this quickly do you want to
give you See, so you say.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
You're gonna give up on your top three pick, I'm
saying your your coach is not gonna be their coach
anymore if they don't win games. Well, that's see, that's
my question was development is a done deal in the NFL.
That's why and that's why nil money is so good
now because quarterbacks are staying in college and getting the
reps versus coming into the league and trying to develop them.
Because if you if you come to the league to
try to get it, you ain't gonna get developed. Truga

(12:28):
trade lance. Look how quick the the Niners had to
cut thee DA that's crazy. You don't have time to
get developed in the You got one year and if
you don't got it, you're gonna be gone.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
It's Josh Rosen about that.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Ye, that's crazy. I'm just saying so like like for me,
Daniel Jones, I mean, he's mediocre, but he's consistent and
that that'll beat the hell out of the inconsistency that
Anthony Richardson and his forty percent completion percentage gets you.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
He can run too, but he can also trip over
his own feet.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
When he's not pulling himself off the field for he's
gast You know what you don't so, hey, coach, I
need to breathe it. You literally go to just rub
the ball just out of the planet. I saw something
I checked out and here's the hand off of what
are you doing right? That happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
But he's like, I'm sorry, here, you go back.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
You get into the hole. They called a pass play,
but man, I I can't run the boot right now.
My hand it off and going twenty eight ice old,
that's gonna follow him forever. It is. Yeah, that is
mistake that he made. Don't don't ever take yourself out
of the game.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Man, have you ever seen that in your career?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Evin, and I see somebody do what I meant.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
My hands out. You're not coming on right now?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
You just looking at him like you can want to
come off with you dumb like I can't even imagine,
like sitting here like me, I'm putting myself in the
coat and this is my face, like you can't see
it on the radio, but my face like just watching
this guy walk incredulous swashing what like, I don't like,
I wouldn't even know what the hour respond to that.
Here's the other thing too, we're like it should go.
The other part is you admitted it to the media. Yeah,

(14:04):
nobody had no voice, but nobody could have known. You
could have said, hey, man had a little bit of
a you're a little strayed. We knocked out him. Yeah,
you know I had to go, you know, I need
to go and catch my breath. After that he was
able to get back in. That was a good look.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
But no, he just came and he just Yeah, he.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Wasn't the only quarterback to selling himself out. Kalyb Wiams,
you guys see that story, does yes? I did see
Zach Wickersham on ESPN put out an article and uh,
there's there's a whole bunch going on there. But the
gist of it is is that Kayleb Williams and his
dad were trying to manufacture a way to not get
to Chicago. Early on in that process. They met Kevin O'Connell,
head coach of the Vikings early in the process, and
they wanted to go to Minnesota, and at the last

(14:45):
minute Kayleb Williams like stopped and said, no, I don't
want to nuke the city of Chicago, like the like
Eli Manning or pulling John Elway or Eli Manning and
stuff like that. I don't want to do that because
it's you know, that's unfair to them. But yeah, he
didn't vibe with Shane Waldron the OC at all. He's
like this guy, I can't I can't get along with this.
He knew that before they got drafted by Ryan Paul
said we're not trading you, we're drafting you. So they

(15:05):
ended up scrapping their plan to like, you know, just
basically crap on the city of Chicago and force their
way somewhere else. And you know, I like, on the
one hand, I get it, like you're sort of you're
going into a system that chooses where you're going.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
You don't have choice in it. But on the other man,
burning bridges, Oh yeah, you make yourself look bad, not
even one thing. Whoa boo, Maybe he's not that good.
Well why would he do that?

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, and by not burning that bridge, he winds up
with Ben Johnson as his head coach at oh see.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
This year, Yeah, he's gonna have the biggest blessing of
his career. Yeah, because you know they.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Already made the offensive line.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Boy, and Ben Johnson could draw up some place. Oh yeah,
he could draw up some place. I loved everything else
off of the lines. Not the Lions have more pieces
to the Bears. But again, you have that offensive line.
A lot of different days could happen, especially when you
want to get your quarterbacks to continue to grow and
get better. So his bacchuration is going to accelerate this
year because of the office A line. Yeah, they went
out there, they made some serious investments in that.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well, there are many good quarterbacks that don't have offensive lines.
I mean we've seen guys get to the hell, beat
out them, get stack before and overcome it. I mean
Peyton Manning made a living play bad offensive lines.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Because I got it out quick, but not many.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
No, I'm trying to think of Tom Brady got well,
they had some seasons when Dante Scarnecia wasn't there, the
line wouldn't play Bronles, was it.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah it, Uh, you know, it's just fifteen didn't have
a really good offensive line, but made things were actually
had a really dominant offense to the point where Sports
Illustrated tweeted out leading up to the week of the
game with the AFC Championship game, but that was supposed
to be a blowout bruncles had no shots.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Well we see what happened there.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
We back to I would get back to schedule that
we get we get back on that. Kileb waingis stuff
attle bit later? Uh you open up, Like I said
the coach, she probably probably pends on that. As at
W four. You could probably start in the season off
to it. Oh right, yeah uh. And then you go
on the road and you got your first what I
would consider real test, and that's the LA Chargers. They
played physical football, good football game right there.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, I don't know that they win that one. I mean,
I know playing at LA with the Chargers. There is
a de facto home game for the Bronx. There's enough
Orange crowd, but you know, Charger fan is over here
and then the rest of it's Broncos fans. But they
played physical football and hardball, you know, I mean they
they'll put it to you over that last year.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
You know, I think that the Chargers proved that, hey,
we got to we got to get our run game
together a little bit better, the defensive run game. And
I would say that the guys know that they they
got this one mark off on the list that day.
These guys dting the ball on it. They they bullied
us a little bit and they're gonna be ready for him.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
But for the Chargers, what got him into this game,
who had him win the game was because Justin Herbert
had a really good second half and the Broncos missed
opportunities too because they were a big early you know,
you could say two possessions, especially the NFL, that's a
pretty big, pretty sizable lead, and he wasn't able to
hold that. Yeah, Justin Herbert was able to make some
really good who did plays and uh Chargers were able

(17:53):
to win that one at the end.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
But I still think that the run game was so dominant,
and when as a defensive player, when that when when
the other team can run the ball against she's demoralizing, right,
you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Saying to we can't we can't stop. Yeah, because they
were running and then they early Yeah, and then they
hit they hit Commani Vidald on the wheel. Uh you know,
and they kind of exposed something that was going on
with the defense, which we saw the Ravens take advantage
of there later. But they they've added talent, like they've
added talent. They had a Mackai Beckton at guard. They

(18:30):
brought Mike Williams back at receiver. They drafted Trey Harris. Yeah,
they drafted O'marion Hampton and North Carolina. They added Naji Harris.
Uh there, you know, they didn't have we they had
Ladd McConkey on offense last year. That was kind of it.
They added Tyler Conklin and drafted a Rodney Gaston at
the tight end. The Chargers are loading up, but I
just don't want Broncos fans to sleep on Well what

(18:51):
do you what do you think about their defense? Though?
What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Pretty good about here.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
At Jesse Mintz is a pretty good defensive graordinator. Uh.
They added Deshaun hand at the at the defense event
to Dante Jackson at the at the corner position. They
didn't really do a whole lot with the defensive side.
They're kind of running it back. Yeah, well Bolsa's gone. Yeah,
Khalil Mack is gone.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, so will Max.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Still there and maxill Nex still there.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
They's got a budget pre both is the biggest one.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeahs is gone, and they're they're converting more to a
true thirty four than kind of that hybrid forty three
over they were using last year. Yeah, so you know,
it'll it'll be you know, it'll be interesting to see
because they using mostly older fronts this year, and it'll
be it'll be interesting to see what they you know,
how they look in that that transition without Bosa, but
also wasn't the same guy. You know, Bosa was a name,
but he wasn't the same guy that he was last

(19:36):
year either.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
That Khalil Mack has been able to keep his play
at a high level and he's I mean years it's
for Khalil mc now he's up there.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I don't know, but every year. It's the return of
the mac when he comes back. So Morrison's song going.
We got a break real quick. We got Steve Attwater,
Justin Adams over here, we got Zac Segers back there
behind the glass deck. Had to tell when some nuggets gears.
So again, if we lose tonight, we're blaming it on him.
Rocco's country. That'd be back after this. Hall of Austin

(20:09):
Justin Adams over there.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Sorry, swallow man, that's cold called Hall of awesome. I
thought it was a compliment.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I thought you was gonna say Hall of Famer over
here to a future Hall of famer, you know, yea
Hall of Fame speech rider over here.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
Just bad.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
There you go, all right, I got it, Hall of
fame jersey wearer. Zach Seger's back there, and uh, hall
of fame. No, no fame. I got it for myself.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Mustache, Well that's Grant Zach's that going on?

Speaker 1 (20:32):
The mustache? What about your haircut?

Speaker 3 (20:34):
No, he's not as bad as it was.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Oh yeah, no, I think we all know what I'm
talking about. A few months ago. Boy, Yeah, it was
a little longer than that. It was about a year ago,
but yeah, it was. It was not good. It wasn't
a year ago. It took me a while. Man, that
looked crazy.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
It was awful.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
It was like time out of nineteen thirty Germany. Man,
it was not good. No, you don't see that guy
people walking by. I didn't know where to say hi
or hile. It was super bad, bad dude.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Like it was a bad cut hard.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I had to work to make sure I didn't get
dirt on my upper lip with that haircut.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I got like it was bad.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
I'm glad you are the way you are right now.
I'm just saying you're black jagging with it though you
you've played it up. I tried to. I was like, okay,
I got no choice, sound right, shames thing. Nobody wants
that like you Like, you know, people could pull off
to look at the ship. I don't pull that off.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I need hair right, I look like Gollum from the
Lord of the Rooms. It's you know, it's precious.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
It's bad. Nobody wants that. That was that was different.
I'm just saying that that that haircut was terrible. Yeah, well,
well next time you need a haircut, man, come on
at me. You got okay.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
I'm just saying I've been through some bad haircuts before me.
You don't want me to cutch it. I'm like, I
don't want to cut for a second. You know, okay,
you know where the shop is.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I know, all right. You pull out a pair of buzzers,
you know in the break a line up his fade
real quick, man, you're not gonna like what you see.
Line up a little and look, and I need to
pay it up front. It's like the bart Farmers when

(22:09):
I was in the army. Man, you got brothers. No, no,
what the hair cut? Oh my gosh. We were talking
about the schedule before before we went to break and
I think I think we're all in agree with the
charge is gonna be less approved. I may be over
selling a little bit relative to what you guys think
on that, but I think the Charge is gonna be
a real tough team this year. Text line though, is
telling me Shane losing the horrorball three straight, especially with

(22:32):
his new love Archie Harvey.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Archie Harvey, he's gold.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
You see his thighs. No, he's got like he's got
everything below the knee is like the size of my
leg quads, a bigger rub in my waist. I'm saying
look for the knee down. It looks like a skinny dude.
And then he's got these quads and you're like, where
did that come from? It looks like a turkey drumstick.

(22:59):
It looks like something at the Renaissance Fair.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I would say this.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
I saw him play against Colorado obviously, you know me
be in a form of buff and he took one
pass something about eighty yards or something like that and
out ran Travis Hunter.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
And when I saw that, I was like, okay, run
them or although he did, Travis had to. If you
have the angle a you, Travis. I'm just saying, if
you got the angle and he outruns the angle, okay, Now.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
He's on legit four to four flat forty guys, he
got the wheel's talking about the camp.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
But who's the secondary guy? Then, like, who's the other
running back?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Right?

Speaker 3 (23:31):
You're hoping that becomes estimate, Yeah, because you need a sledgehammer.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
You need somebody that can get in here and get
those tough yards, that can get you first down yardage
and be a pass pro guy. Because Harvey's really not that.
I mean we talked about it, like we can put
him on a tight end in the backfield, and all that. Okay, well,
people gonna figure that out pretty quick. I remember when
Phil Lindsay was back there trying to block too and
love Phil Lindsey, but watching him trying to take on
Joey Bosa might have been the height of comedy.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Man, he just too light to fan, right what it is?

Speaker 8 (23:57):
Man?

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, Joey put one hand on it and push.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Him through the middle of the earth.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
Right, Yeah. But Harvey he's bigger. He's a bigger bill
you know, he's he's five, but he's thicker than Phil was. Yes,
but he's not He's still pass pro and it really
his thing. But it's not something that he could learn,
you know what I mean? Like that stuffy again, there's
a lot of hope.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I mean, at the end of the day, be a
road cone if you if you can't stop him, be
a roadcne. Make him go around you, right, you know
like that he's like, all right, take his knees out
you in the head. You know that's the thing I think,
you know, when you've got killed me coming around the corner,

(24:38):
like look, I'm gonna be honest with you. The table
I seen on R J. Harvey trying to pass bro
I don't want him back there right now. Try to
take on one man. I'm just saying, come on, man,
he can kneel, He'll be able to do it.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Can he be coached on it?

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Do I know? I don't know. If I'm not out
there coaching. I think anybody could be coached on it, right,
I mean especially they tried to coach me on the
radio thing for years and this radio though, and haircuts too.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
But that's not right.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
But as long as you have a why base.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Right, he has a pretty good base, we agree with that, right,
So if you have a y base, you could be
able to go and move. And the biggest thing is
can you be able to either a initiate the concept
or you can you withstand whatever contexts come your way.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Well, obviously we probably don't want our start running back
having to do that too much anyway, right, I mean you.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Can't can't Mike marts it either where you put everybody
out on the route and getting your getting your guy
killed back, then you gotta have him to be able
to do something.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
But you know the way they're protecting quarterbacks now hopefully,
well I don't know they they based tip protecting the quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Today, shy Gil, just Mahomes back there, that's getting every call.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, man, that was a two for one joke.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
I thought it.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I was right there, right, it's a two for Thursday.
What we trying to say? It was a shay Gil
just to get all these calls out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
And then Patrick Mahind, I have no idea what you're
talking about, Alexander for the Okay, she's thunder, Okay, you
breathe on that. You're getting a foul called on you. Okay,
if you're around the facity, if you're around here his heel.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's a foul play right all the time
on to play.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
And then of course Pat Mahomes, you know, if you
if you sneeze on him, he's you know, that's rough
in the passer. So yeah, it hadn't been like that
for us. I'm saying, there's a disparitying call. So that's
why I'm like, you know, there's some quarterbacks get protected.
It takes you a couple of years, and you know,
Bo's gonna have to play in a couple of years
and get those you know, get those rough years before
he starts getting the getting those kind of calls. Yeah, yeah,

(26:29):
you know, I'm just saying he put off forget what
we got. Well, that's what I say.

Speaker 9 (26:32):
You're kind of hoping that order cast to maybe becomes that, right,
because he's the guy with the size and yeah, I
mean I wouldn't call it long speed, but he's he's
you know, he's well ask them all, but is he
a change of pace back?

Speaker 4 (26:45):
It's so I don't know if he's exactly the change
of pace she would say, but he would be enough, right,
and he will be enough where he.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Could get well, he say, what ten carries a game?

Speaker 4 (26:54):
If we're looking at this, you know, dimming up how
many carries guys will get, right the expectations?

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Would you say ten for him?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
You kind of hope eight to ten touches a game,
okaycause I mean you look at the Sean Payton distribution
you tend to get it's it tends to be like
a ten ten to eight split between the three running
backs you got. You know, when you had your Sprolls
guy back there, you manufacture you know, three or four
passing touches and three or four rushing touches and then
your your middle guy would be mostly in your other
guy you leave that your your mark ingral near the
table up Murray. Those guys would be, you know, eight touches.

(27:23):
Today's a four to seven to one forty guy. I
mean he's not he's not exactly a track star, you know.
For seven to one forty guy, he's got full back speed.
You know, it's kind of like eight pounds to earth,
literally pounds the earth. Well he runs. Well, guess what, man?
I my forty time. Wouldn't they good either?

Speaker 5 (27:40):
But we made it.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
Forty?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Who's the forty?

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Come on, man, I'll tell you a five, four or
five guy? Come on, I see you to break Okay,
you went at four to five?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Was it good? Bad? What four or five is good? Four?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Five is great?

Speaker 8 (28:00):
I'll tell you to break down. Okay, alright, it's the
whole story. Ude's gonna try to sell a four to two. Yeah,
a little bit of story, a little bit of which
was right.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Okay, I gotta hear this. You know somebody's about to
try to sell your something we got after the store.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
We have to We got two minus.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
We gotta travel. You get you get two minutes for
the story.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
So it's workout day for college, you know, college workouts,
doing the workouts for for the NFL team.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
They come, they call it come to because our pro day.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Yeah, me and my guys. Man, we're running forties, you know,
pam Rocco four four eight. Man, there we go, there
we go.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
We in there.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
For for nine.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
All right, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good running.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
You know. Had a great visit with everybody. Fast Forward
I played my entire crew.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Career and people asked me, what's you running forty but
four f eight four feight? I'm good? Uh, fast Forward
played my whole career. I'm living in Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
I go out to dinner with one of the guys
that was a scout that timed me, and we're talking.
I was like, bro, man, I can't believe I ran
a four four eight. I mean yeah, four fur eight.
He's like, I can make the sideway. Say whatever I
wanted to say this, I'm like, I didn't run no

(29:34):
damn for He's like that boy this eight Like.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yes, So I don't know what. Man, Oh you know what,
I'm gonna do it. This is a history. I can't
have to lose. I'm gonna have to go find this out.
I'm gonna find it out. I'm gonna ge I'm gonna
get to the bottom of this. I promise you, I'm
gonna find out what Steve really ran. I'm just saying,
whatever it was, I ran at the combound, but I'll

(30:15):
tell you got it on last running right out to
Ballorina or our own Grant the Mustache man Smith, he is, Grant,
I'm going out.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
There well, doing great?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Ben, How are you guys, I'm doing phenomenally. How well
is the mustache playing out there and at ball Aerina?

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Well, you know, the mustache always plays well wherever you go.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I love it. Yeah, Grant Smith got the confidence, just
like you got the confidence in our own Denver Nuggets
out there. What's the what's the atmosphere like down there
at Paul Is that they've already tipped off? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (30:49):
Well, I don't know if you can hear it in
the background, but it has been crazy so far. You
can tell this crowd understands that that's a do or
die game for the Nuggets.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Do you normally have a feeling like earload in the
game that the Nuggets are going to win or you
gotta wait till the end?

Speaker 7 (31:05):
What what are you gonna think, well, with the way
this series has played out so far, every game I
thought the Nuggets were in control of they ended up losing.
And every game I thought they were in trouble, they
ended up finding a way to win.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
So you're gonna have to see how this plays out.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
But to a hot start right now.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Then, well, the one thing that'll helped about is havage.
The one thing that would help us have a Jamal
Murray back in the lineup. We know he was dealing
with the illness. He has seven points early, but how
is he doing right now? How's it looking on the court?
He looks fine.

Speaker 7 (31:35):
I mean, I think this is I think we're set
up for the MJ flu game for Jamal. He hit
the four point play at the beginning of the game,
and uh, he looks good. Man. He doesn't look like
he's lacking any any energy. Let's build on the defensive
band and uh yeah, I think I think he's geared
up for a big game.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Well, let's hope show.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
We'd like to see the Nuggets take this thing to
game shoven and then turn around and uh and steal
it back from the thunder There what looks like the
the keys to this thing. How are the Nuggets going
to be able to overcome this in this particular game.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
I think it starts with slowing down SGA, and they're
off to a good start with meeting a couple of turnovers,
and it looks like they're on top of their game
to night. And it's like Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley
and Shack said on Inside the NBA last night, you
do not want to see Joker in a game seven.
So if we can force that game seven, all the
pressure is gonna switch over to OK seed.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
And I like the way this game is starting.

Speaker 7 (32:28):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Michael Porter Junior, Well, Michael Porter Junior one of the
biggest storylines this whole series.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
He's been struggling, to say the list, and that's just
being kind.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
What was need?

Speaker 3 (32:38):
What the Nuggets need for Michael Porter Jr. To get
to w tonight.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
I think, honestly, just efforts, you know. And you could
tell in pregame warmups. I was talking with our buddy
A Rod he was down here court side for the
pre game, and he said MPJ was struggling in warm ups.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Wasn't out there long.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
I don't know if he had to go back to.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
The locker room and get him maybe another little shot
to make that shoulder feel good or not.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
But he's looking good so far.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
He's got the effort going, he's got a couple of rebounds,
and uh, I think they just need to see that
compete from Michael Porter Junior, where you've seen him lose
his consistency throughout the series. But if he can just
compete and hit a couple of those open shots, I
think we're in for a good game here.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
So who do we got to make sure we stop for?

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Okay, see, well it starts with SGA of course.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Yeah, but Lou dort Man, if he is getting open
looks and knock him down. We've seen that be trouble
for the Nuggets so far in this series. So I'd
love to see them get to him, force him off
the three point line, and then we can get to work.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
You know, it's a last one here, Grant the last
one for me as we look out at this. You know,
I was telling the fellas on Kiawait Sports. I know
that this is setting up for the Jabowl, you know,
flu game, but this also needs to be the Michael
Porter Junior Russell Westbrook justify we're a here game because
if these guys don't come out and and prove that
they can be a proper supporting cash for nikoley Jokic,

(33:58):
they're not likely to be here next year. How are
they looking so far?

Speaker 7 (34:03):
They're looking good so far. I mean, we haven't seen
Russ yet, but you know he'll come in with tons
of energy. And I think that you know, we saw
last game they struggled. They what they combined for six
points I think, and the whole supporting cast in the
fourth quarter last game. But we know that the supporting
cast always plays better at home, and that's what we're
looking for here tonight at Ball Arena.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well, we got the game on the TV here. The
only thing we're looking for is Grant Smith. Where's Waldo sightings?
So we'll be we'll be keeping an eye on your brother.
Have fun out there to enjoy the game.

Speaker 7 (34:30):
Reback it no baby, Hey, I'll bring it back to
dub for you, Steve, and just keep an eye out
for the mustache.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
And the ballotsh got it, Grantford line out there from
Bowl Arena. We got to hit a break when we
come back. We're gonna get more into this schedule. This
is ROCKUS country night here on Kawe
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