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growing up, they would have a moment on a local
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to sit it out to someone, and you know, I've
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you can actually call in and you can chi them
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packed that you can't really get it in yourself. But now,
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My mentions a horrible.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, I mean, you mentions get a lot of pool,
either pro.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Or con right, Well, I mean, yeah, there are Certainly
there's a lot of response. You know, I get a
lot of interaction, but not all that interaction is so
positive pleasant. Some of that some of that reaction is
less than less than bust people lesson. Wasn't you said
that story group chat earlier today? Was it both shocks
Pitcher Dobbins.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, you know, it's it's kind of wild.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And the reason I really hit home with me is
because obviously Father's Day is on Sunday, they shout out
to all you fathers. But it's like I maybe started
to think about the lies that Father's tail right, because
apparently it seems as though a hundred Dobbins father Lance
Dobbins wasn't so on up and up as it pertains
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to his playing for the Yankees and being best friends
with Andy Pennett, who played in the Majors for fifteen
seasons and no one as though the Red Sox and
the Yankees are playing somehow. Hunter Dobbins saim, you know what,
I would ever want a piece for the Yankees. And
everyone's like, oh, okay, well, what's an animosity? Yeah, what's
the reason for you have been on? And it was
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just like, well, you know, my dad played for the Yankees,
and oh.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Really, yeah, he said his father, Lance was drafted twice
by New York before later being traded to the Arizona Diamondbacks. Yes,
and when he asked if he had a least favorite
Yankees player, Dobbins singled out of player who seemingly had
ties to his father, can I say all of them?
But Andy Pettitt. Andy Pettitt and my dad were really
good friends, he told. I told the Herald. But the
New York Post Joel Sherman is alleging that Dobbin's made
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false claims about his father's pro career and his relationship
with Pennett. Dobbin's father, Lance does not come up as
a Yankees draft pick in any search of the team's
selections on Basall Reference or any single season. Ryan Cashman
has been with the organization so the late eighties had
no recollection of the Yankees drafting last Dobbins, and said
a check with the Yankees' amateur department revealed no drafting
of Lance Dobbins. We're contacted by the poets. Both Joe
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Gargiola Junior, who was the Diamonbacks original Jenleal manager, and
Buck Showalter, who was the original manager waiting, said they
had no memory of Lace Dobbins or of making a
trade with the Yankees for a Lance Dobbins.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So with that said, I'm like, Okay, well, yes, does
this add to the Yankees Red Sox robbery? You bet
your backside it does, but not for the obvious reasons.
And this is this gives individuals an opportunity to start
trolling Hunter Dobbins. So I'm not suggesting that you do,
but I can understand if you did because of this
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whole concept. But once again, it just had me to think,
biggest story the lies that fathers tell, right, Because I
mean Hunter Dobbins say he never checked with his pops
to even validate the story. It's like this was based
on what he how he grew up photos and listening
to the reporters asked the question, I didn't hear anyone
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press him on that particular question. You said, photo, what
photos are their photos of your father in a Yankees
uniform or with Andy Pettitt. Because the way I look
at it, like this, just because I dined in the
same establishment that Michael Jordan once dined in, it doesn't
mean that I met Michael Jordan's We were friends, me
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and his Arrie, And it's just like, wait a minute,
just because it's a story that one cannot prove, especially
when you tell your kids when they're younger, because kids
look up to their dads, their dads are their heroes.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But I would say it's made me start.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
To think what type of lies did my father tell
me when I was a kid, and what type of
lives do fathers tell their kids now? Just like some Yeah,
I was talking to my cousins lives in DC, and
he told me, Well, the type of lie that you
know he may tell his kids is like, look, hey,
even though I know my child might not have played
well in a particular sport or his team, but you
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tell him, you know what, keep giving it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The good old college trick.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know it's gonna work out for full Well, no
that son, yes, And or the team is best.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's the father time lied, you tail, right, That's that's
the kind of lie you tell.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, so funny funny story here, Like my I had
this situation because my dad and my dad, to his credit,
was a phenomenal golfer, like phenomenal golfer.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
He was very good golf. I witnessed it personally. I
like he was a very good golf. But he always
told us growing up that he was on the tour.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Tour, yeah, like back in the seventies, and he would
like he was like he would he would, I mean,
and I'm telling you like watching my dad play, he
was a phenomenal goal he wrote to his credit, he
was a phenomenal golfer. And I hate that guy, so
like I'm not giving him any credit on anything. I
can't that's said he used to tell. He used to
say that he was a former He used to say
that he was a former profession not a golf pro,
but on the tour, like specifically on the tour. And
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you know, I repeated that because thinking, you know, there's
no way my dad lied about that whatever, And I
repeated that. And then a few years ago, when people
were making up all that nonsense about my military career
and then everything else. They posted that because they're like,
you know, hey, he lied about his.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Dad being and I was like, dude, my dad lied.
I didn't know. I checked my dad and I never
checked to see if he had a tour card.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Like I felt like an idiot because I was like, okay,
you got me there, there's nothing, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And so yeah, so they that was But fathers do
lie to impressed their son. Is it lying or is
it just over embellishing a little too much?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well, he served me in bellot because he didn't never
have a tour card. Now, I mean again, I saw
my dad play.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I literally watched him play around of golf with then
Arkansas Governor Mike Couckabee and the Daily brothers, John Day
and his brother and you know my dad.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So that's easy for you to fall into that.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It was, well, yeah, we had like I had visual
represented my dad's playing golf with important people. Some of
these guys are actual pros now Here twenty se years later,
my dad's hanging like those were your reseats. Yeah, Like
I was like I saw this because it wasn't you know,
So yeah, I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was funny, but I mean in the end, it
was one of those things.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Where I looked like an idiot, though you know, I
personally looked like an idiot for that, for for that
later on in life, because I had some tweets out
there about my dad being a pro golfer and stuff,
and then I look like an idiot for it.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I feel sorry for a hundreds in this situation, Zach.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Have you ever had someone in your family.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Heard a story of like like dad lies? Like what
there is there such thing as a good dad lie?
I think there could definitely be good dad lies.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Maybe cover some things up, make make the story a
little more simple and less complicated.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Here for the fish story, you know, watch the movie
Big Fish, the Timbert movie. No, you should watch that.
It's a good movie. Great, I'm here. I'm here for that,
Like if you would like I caught a fish.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Well, I mean, the story is about how his dad
kind of embellished a lot of things to make you anyway.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But I'm gonna have to talk to my dad now
after this, because I don't I guess.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
The statute of limitations must not be up there. I
don't know what dad. I don't need somebody coming out
on me. And my dad died back in two thousand
and three, and you know, bleep that guy. He was terrible.
But but that said like it was one of those
things like I was like, all right, well, at least
I have this good note. Now I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yes, it's just like wait a minute. I mean, you
you look up to your parents and especially your father,
right that this is the man of the household, and
this is who you lean on, this is who you
kind of develop part of your personality after you know
is your is your dad and knowing that your dad
told you a couple of things that were a little
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maybe lies applications over embellishment.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Right, and now you grow up and you find out
it's not true.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And I would hate to be in Hunter of Dobbins
situation where he finds out what his father once told him,
or or another scenario, his father might have said some things.
And I know as kids sometimes we use a figments
of our own imagination. I could have been one of
those types of things.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know. In this particular case,
I don't think it's gonna hurt Hunter Dobbins too too much.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I mean, he was endeared himself to the fan base
talking about I never want to be a Yankee and
for a bus Sox picture. I don't think there's a
better thing you can say being.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
A Yankee fan. Okay, I get it. Yes, So now
he's even better because his dad never pitched for him.
You know what it's like.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It's to find out like his dad never pitched for
for anyone.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
At you well at that we have records off you know,
maybe he was in the Arizona. The one thing we
haven't really confirmed is the Arizona thing like that nobody
remembers him there, but we haven't confirmed it.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Like we've confirmed with the Yankees.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
That he was never could be a thing where he
was in maybe training camp maybe you know, one of
those kind of things, and it wasn't it wasn't really
official because he didn't make it to the opening day rassa.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Maybe it wasn't with the Yankees. I'll say that he
was never with the Yankees, had no employment wreck, no,
w know, nothing like he didn't show. He was never
there the d Backs. We don't know yet that just
that the two general managers just don't remember that.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
See some was a game on mind is kind of
racing here, not just with a Hunter Dobbins, But the
whole idea is of what our parents don't tell us.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like for me, I don't know about you guys, but.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
It was it was hard trying to get my parents
to tell us about family health records, meaning like did
anyone have pre.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Existing heart disease or diabetes?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Like it's like, these are things that you don't even
speak of in my family.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But it just made me think.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
About certain for Brimley had gotten us through that we
could talk about diabetes.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
No, you would think so, but not in my family.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
They just kind of keep things close to the chest.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Which it's like finding out later on, like here's the
worst lie that you can get from a parent, either
mom or dad.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It was a kid that was that went to your
school and everyone.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Thought that, eh, that kid looks vaguely like you, right,
and then you're like whatever, Come ten years later you
find out, hey, man, remember that do that was went
to your school and he was in the fifth grade.
You in the fourth grade. Oh, by the way, that
was your brother. Like it's just like, what's going on?
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And those are the type of lines that you want
to make sure that you never hear from a parental standpoint.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
It just made me start to think about this whole
thing with a hundred dig is the some of the
lies or Adie better word, have truth parents.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I don't believe in half true. Something's either true or
it didn't. You know, something is something is is either
true or it isn't. I at the end of the day,
I don't you know.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
His dad lied to him. I mean he did. My
dad lied to me. He did. Hey, it's one of those,
like it's one of those and you're talking about the
brothers thing. Yeah, I found out I had a half brother. Yeah,
eighteen years old. Time I a conscious decision that my
parents did kept myself. Yeah, I had a half brother.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
No, he received I found that out when I was seventeen,
eighteen something like that.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Anyway, I've only seen Adam a few times in my life.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, I don't have a relationship with him or anything
like that, but you know, yeah, yeah I found that out.
You know, I'm telling you, I mean, to your point,
you just did you just really read up on me,
and I think his fingers I did not know that
I just tried to figure out one of the more.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Egregious things that you can experience as a child from
childhood too, Those are that your parents may have not
told you.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
The only thing worse than that is finding out that
someone that lived in the house with you for so
long find out now that's not really your father.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh no, okay, I'm gonna all that. Yeah, unfortunately I
wish that were the case. I wish I had found
that out.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And now, yeah, my dad had been previously married for
you know, for my mom' stuff and had a kid
and whatnot, but they didn't have a relationship anymore, and
so that was thing. Just kept it from us until
uh as my grandfather died and he was coming to
the funeral and that's when they that's when they told us.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I don't know, but but once again that this Haunter
Dobbin's story, it just made me think like wow, for
this story to come out at this particular time, knowing
that Father's Day is Sunday, why they I'm a thinking
about to play each other too, Yes, Saturday, play each
other Saturday. Just made it just made me think like
I want to call my parents and ask them Hey, listen, one.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Time, one time only.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Is there anything that I need to know that you
didn't tell me years ago?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Just just tell me, lean slate, That's what I want
to do now.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
There's on the Father's Day note, there's one that's kind
of reminiscent of this.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You're talking about.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
How finding out your dad's not your dad reminded me
of it. There's an unbelievable story book from a journalist,
Sarah Spain is dropping this week about the whole ordeal,
but about the Raiders running back coach. He and his father,
who he recently discovered was his father, have a very
similar story.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
That is remarkable.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
It's like they went to the same school without even
realizing it. The guy his dad became a professional mentor
to him. As he hold on for a second, Dylon McCullough, Yes,
that story.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He's a former teammate of mine in Cincinnati. We were
teammates with him.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yes, we were teammates together. And I remember when I
first saw the story, I called him because he and
I played together in Cincinnati are rookie year. Then we
played we were teammates again with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers
and the guy who was his father was with the
Seattle Seahawks when I did my coaching internship with him,
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and I didn't think anything of it.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
He was so The funny thing is he was with
the Seahawks, is they're running backs coach under Pete Carroll.
How his son is the running backs coach under Pete
Carroll with the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Once again, that's a wild story within itself. And you're right,
his dad, who didn't know at the time, was definitely
his mentor, but also the same guy who recruited him
out of high school. And it's just like how old
God's green Earth can things like this actually happen. And
it was a great story because now he gets a
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chance to be with his dad, they reunited, they're both
running back coaches. I mean, to me, Hollywood couldn't have
written a better script. But the question always goes back
to what type of falsehoods that our parents tell us
or keep away from us.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, Sherman didn't know that either, right, No, father, he
did not know. He did not know. Okay, he did
not know. I knew dealer.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I mean he didn't know what I couldn't ever remember.
If the father didn't know that neither one, neither one
knew that. That is incredible.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
His mother kept it from the father and gave the
kid up for no one knew. The mom and her
family kept it secret because it was in the sixties
or seventies or whatever. The dad didn't know until twenty
thirty years later when Nicola finally found out and reached
out and initiated the connection when they were already close
lifelong friends and professional mentor mentee.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, that's uh, yeah, it would have been early. Wouldn't
have been a sixties, had been a seventies, seventies eight. Yeah,
that's it. Once again, phenomenal story.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But all I'm saying is I cannot be just the
only person that now is wondering. Okay, well, what things
did my parents not tell me? Right, like we know
during the holiday season, especially in April.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well, some thing's not on one of though.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Ok I don't need to know that I was conceived
in a red lobster parking lot something like that.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I don't need to know. Hey, who knows. I mean,
you may say, well, that's not asking.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
That question because I don't want to find that out.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Well, that's maybe where your your affinity for lobster came
from who knows.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I'm just saying, you never know. Like my mom would
stay back that I love to eat on.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Thanksgiving because that's kind of when she kind of ate
fool and I was, and she gave birth to me
like later on their Thanksgiving. So it's it's it's one
of those things. But I know I cannot be the
only person who is now wondering what is it that
their parents left out in their childhood?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
All right, let me go step further.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Since you've got kids at Oh see, that's the difference.
I tell them everything case in point really quickly. Everything
almost everything, almost everything. There's certain there's certain things that
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go along with the Parenthal cove that you shouldn't tell
your kids. That has a lot to do with brock drown.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Give it up, that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Like when my son was we lived in California, they
had this little like little Derby race with the cars
that they had to make, and he came back like that,
but they had to make their own cars, but it's
like wooden small cars, and they gave all the kids
little trophies and ribments. Okay, I took my kids trophy
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and rivet through in the trash.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Participation. Yes, it didn't make.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
My wife too happy about it, but I was like, no,
we are not promoting participation, right, it's one thing first
second or whatever. But just getting a ribbon and a
trophy because you participated, people.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Scream at me, be mad. You raise your kids the
way you raise them. I'm not with participation trophies fair enough.
I never liked you.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I didn't like getting them. I was like, oh, this
is a loser award. Thanks, you know, not that I
had so many.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Come on, let's give a little Johnny keeps it one
little college try.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
No, yeah, I don't know. We need to think about that.
One other things paris labout. You know, it doesn't lie
all a lie pacers up too. One'm gonna talk about
the NBA next. What do you got going here?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Zach?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
What is this?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I was looking for a song called butter to, you know,
his little homage to our friend Ben and his red
lobster backstore.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
You know that that is very interesting that be Been
actually said that. I don't know how true it is
the fact that he was conceived in a red lobster
park park a lot, but knowing him the way I do,
I guess there may be a little part of me
that believes that that could be possible.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Don't you think.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Maybe that's why he's so cheesy, like those cheddar Bay
biscuits or whatever they call you know what.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Uh, maybe it's so you know, maybe Benjamin Olbright was
conceived in a red lobster.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Park park a lot that may have happened. Yes, that's
where my parents went on the first table.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That's why you love cheddar biscuits. That's what Zach seegers Old.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Bay cheddar biscuits.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
See.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Oh me, yeah, put that whole bad. You know what
I'm talking about. Yes, I'm not that. Do you know
what Old Bay seasoning is? Of course?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah? Really that stuff?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, I have some at home.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Okay, I think he said, yeah, I'm not talking about pepery.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
That's talk about it red a granted I have used
it in a while. Yeah, that's a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, yes, okay, Matty, sure you're not talking about the
lowry salt.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Here Baltimore stuff. It's the Baltimore Okay, all right, let
me find a cultured man in the world.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I think keep I honestly didn't think you know, Yes,
I got a full spice cabinet. I got a full
spice cabinet and I have to reply.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It from regularly. We all fulled up. You got a
big spice wreck, huge wreck.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
What do you mean you have with spice cabinet like
you have a you have a girlfriend? Right, yeah, okay,
you guys live together. Yeah, you mean she has a
spice rack because.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Hey, man, I I do a lot of the cooking.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I might do the majority of the cooking even really wow,
if I'm working Broncos Country tonight, like granted tonight, she's
definitely cooking for us. But I I do a lot
of the cooking on weekends, I'd say I I'm the
one cooking.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I say, my my relationships have always been the most well,
I've mostly been.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
He phrased that, Zach.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
When we first started, she would make anything, and by
the time we were you know, she was mostly cooking.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You know, she was cooking a lot by that point.
But I'm I love to cook. I love to make food.
I like to be the one making food. Really yeah,
you find out something new every day.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Didn't take Benjamin Albright for being a chef boy r.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
D Man of Marketable Skill in college, which was the
last time I.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Say the probably the real reason that it all came
about was because, you know, living in that bachelor life,
eventually you got to feed yourself some other than Delaca.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You could only eat out so many times. Well, that's
not like.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I can't get into that right now, find zeros the
text line he show rubbed us in the leads text
basketball I may have had, I may have. I may
have texted Dave Logan last night talking a little smack.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I may I may have. What did you put on
the game on the wager? Well, he and I have
a series wager oh okay.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Which is I took the Pacers and I took seven
games and he said, okay, see and then it won't
go seven.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Well, you know what, there's a famous hip hop artist
by the name of jay Z who at the beginning
of this series put a million dollars on ok se
to win in five. Guess what I got news Jay,
I'm just saying I'm not putting a dollar he put a.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
He put that net has already busted. But I mean, like,
you know, Chris Daughtry would sing that it's not over.
But no, Chris, it's over.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's over.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, it's the Pacers, and people don't get this. So
the Pacers started off the season it was like ten
and fifteen. They were like they were after twenty five
games or ten to fifteen, And a large part of
that is because three of their best players were hurt.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Three they didn't get them back all the way healthy,
and so they started off the season.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So since February, the Pacers has been the second best
team in basketball.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Second best team to who Okay see exactly, but by record.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But what I'm saying is just like, like, the Pacers
are a good basketball team with a ton of depth,
and I think everybody underestimated how much that depth matters,
because Okay, see, what they do is they just keep
throwing bodies at you, right, and then they take off
in the third quarter when they when they wore you down.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You coming out a halftime, they've.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
They've worn you down, You got a little you know,
you go for your second win, and then they wear
you out the second half that third quarter.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And that's what they do.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And they've got a tenth and eleventh guy that can
come in, like Isaiah Joe can come off the bench
and put eight points up on a.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Couple of threes.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
You know they've got guys deep in that the Pacers
had that too, and that's been the.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Key to what the Pacers have done. They can continue to.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Match you body for body because they can roll ten
and eleven deep and so they're not tired like other
teams are, and and and Okay, so he's not used
to that inter.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Thing that bothers me about this whole series, and everything
that you're saying is everything I love about the series,
because Okay, see, it was a team last year who
they jumped on the scene with SGA, and SGA was
in a conversation last year about being being the MVP race.
(24:21):
But these are two franchises that I would say come.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
From smaller markets.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, and both teams play great defense and they can
kind of light up the.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Statue as we've seen the Pacers do.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And Tyrese Halliburton, who I guess emerge as that I
guess Phoenix from the Ashes based on I guess his teammates,
not his teammates.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But Peers Peers declared orated.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I remember when that pole came out, because I think
it was it was either Zachar Grant I was talking
to or walked in and I'm like, bro, how did
Tyrese Halibert get putting the most overrated when he might
be one of the most underrated players in the league.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I really don't know how that happens.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
But the fact that you get these two teams here
and you don't have your typical blue blood NBA team, Yeah,
that's why the ratings, The whole situation with the ratings
drives me crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So people are missing good basketball.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
They are, but they are tuning it out because a
couple of things. They don't like either of these two teams.
They don't think that either of these two teams have
great NBA stars. Albeit that s GA, but some people
don't like him because they say, well, he gets a
(25:34):
lot of calls going to the free throw line. Yeah, miya,
foul grifter.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But when he's not doing that, he's a brilliant basketball
player too. But even it's like Barry Bonds, right, Bob
before the Cream and the Clear, was still a hell
of baseball player. He was all of favor based on
his career before he got the fat head.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, you know, that's the epitomy of true fat head.
Because his head grew grew a couple of inches. But
when you look at this this game. It's just like
there's a lot of fans who are very upset, and
they're upset because SGA is getting calls. But when you
are the aggressor, when you have constantly been a certain
(26:14):
way offensively and defensively, that's how the game is going
to get caught.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
And the one thing I.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Love about this series, Ben, is that it reminds me
of eighties and ninety basketball. What I mean by that
the officials are allowing them to play play defense.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, reminds you of like and that was the last series.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
When you were watching the Knicks and the Pacers, it
reminded you of the glory year Nick Pacer, the Reggie
Miller years. Yet you know Dale Davis, Antonio, Davis, Mark
Chats and Reggie millose guys, and then the Knick said
John Starks and Charles Oakley and Ewing and Alan Houston,
those guys. It was sort of a great, great rivalry.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
And the one thing that makes the rivalry is that
both squads have marquee players. Some have guys who are
household names, other just guys.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Who are great role players who fit their roles.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But once again, they bring that love women basketball intent
like there are people who hated Dennis Rodman. Yeah, I
love Dennis Rodman because to me he was unconditionally.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Himself, no matter him and unapologetically himself too.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Yes, on the court, off the court, he was himself
bad as he wanted to be bad? Is he he
wanted to be in a drugs movie he was in
with John Claude Van Dam and one of the bay
Watch girls or something was it?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, Dennis Rodman, he was like some agent or something
like that. You don't remember that.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
No, Oh, I might have to lucas up during the
during the bike I think, wait a minute, it's coming
to him. Because I see that you said it was
a big one of the girls from bay Watch. I
think that's a different kind of movie.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Zach did record scene the Philli be represent is called
double team.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Double Team. I'm pretty sure that's something else, Dude, the
wrong genre. No, I don't think that was it. I
thought it was John Cludevan Dam.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Maybe I'm wrong with John Claude Van Dam, Dennis Rodman,
Mickey Rourke and Valeria Kavali.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Maybe that's okay, that might be correct. He might be correct.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yes, I'm gonna have like green hair yeah, yeah, okay, hair, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I think in this instance double team is a basketball problem.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Sure goes into different directions.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I mean, look, look which everybody into the sound of
his microphone thought the same thing when they heard the
title movie five six six nights. There was a text
ie tell me I'm wrong. I'm just saying, well, of
course we're news, talk and sports. Here a little bit
of breaking news. Israel has launched a preemptive strike against Iran.
(28:41):
In a statement to Israeli Defense Mister Israel Cats declared
a special state of emergency in the country in anticipation
of an Iranian retaliation for the strike. Targets in the
extent of the attack are currently unclear, but we will
have an update with KOA News here at the top
of the hour of the ongoing situation.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Again, Israel has a Iran. During the break there, Nick,
you and I were talking with our boss. What a story.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, that was a smoking story. It blows anything that
I have out of.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
The water, blew mine out of the water.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I was like, Wow, they got to make a movie
about Dave Tepper's family's life.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I'm just saying, I just it was one of those
things like when someone's telling you.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
A story and it's so good, you're like, wow, continue
and we were coming out of break but yeah, extraordinary story.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
But see that goes back to what I was saying earlier.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Why I raised a question based on the Hunter Dobbins situation.
There's a lot of things that happen in our youth
that our parents feel as though they are.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Protecting us from the real world.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
So they're opting to tell us certain things or not
tell us certain things. And I'm still intrigued to call
my parents and ask the question, but also to tell
my kids certain things about, you know, my early upbringing
or what I might have done in college, just to
make sure that they don't do the same things.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, I you know, my.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Parents pulled us out of school when I would have
been the fourth grade. The homeschool was for a little while,
and the reasoning at the time was they tell me, well,
been your advanced for your age, and we want you
to be able to have challenging curriculum all that kind
of stuff, which.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Was partially true. I mean they wanted to skip me
grades and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
But the three reason they pulled us out is because my brother,
who was a grade behind me was was struggling.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Up bit and they wanted to catch him.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
They would have him be at home to catch him up,
but they were trying to protect him from you know.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Which Again, those are the things that you do, right,
that's kind of falls in the line of lies.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, totally forgivable my ego, but they really were you.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Know, well, yes, but just like if you know that
you have a kid that maybe be struggling academically and
it's just.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Say they have a C grade, right, and you want
to be encouraging.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You don't want to say something out of pockets to
your kids that have really wretched their world and detroys them.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Listen, it's a see.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Now you have the capabilities of bringing it up to
a B or B whatever it is. These are the
things that you do from a parent standpoint that I
can agree that these are great things to do.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
But then there's other things like, man, you should have told.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Me, yeah, like there's yeah, there's some things I don't
want to know. But I mean if there was something
like like like that, you know, like what he was
talking like, I would want to know that kind of stuff. Okay,
I don't want talk about that in there because I
don't want put his family.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
But here's here.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
How about this that you think that your father is
a diehard Broncos fan, right, and then one day you
come to find out that he's not a Broncos fan.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
He's truly a Raiders fan. I mean, like, yeah, I
guess I don't.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I mean, see, look you see Zach just raised them
in his shirt, Like I'm sorry, what but see.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I'm not like I'm a football fan. I don't have
an allegiance to it. I was from Denver, Ivis. He
didn't play for the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
This is not for you, But I just say, like I'm.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Trying to imagine and like I'm trying to imagine that
because I honestly.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I don't know who my dad's team was.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
How about this is that she didn't like he never
really he watched all football the time, but he never
really made that. It may have been Dallas when Jerry
bought the team just leave Arkansas, but like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Here's this is blasphemous and it's not true.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
But what if you found out that Mestas wasn't a
true Broncos fan and she was to keep that secret?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
She doesn't like that. She doesn't want that to be
publicly numb. But you kind of see the old opener,
like the darts. You know, she could totally be. She
loves every She's like Ben part Vampire.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Her good friend that constantly wears nothing but all black spikes.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
She's got the gorilla costume. Yes, I'm just saying, there's
a Darth Vader mask comedition. What would that do to you, Zach?
How would that wreck your friendship?
Speaker 4 (32:49):
I mean, she's kind of like a framed Tom Brady jersey.
So in that specific case, you know, the bar's already
set so low.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
We didn't know I was about to do some detective
work on that. Coming up, we gott hit a break guys.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Top of the hour Here, Rob Dawson Tony matis gonna
have the latest on the breaking news. Israel has attacked
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With you here live five six, six nine zeros in
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text line. So if you guys are trying to text
and we're not seeing them or whatever else, they we
have some issues at the last show too, So uh,
if if you do text and I see it, I'll
say if I don't, you know, save difference. But we
always appreciate you guys to texting in Nick, Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Nobuddy, I'm doing well. Listen.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
There's also another way that they can hit us up
if they can't get the text line.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
They got the talkback feature on the Apple, a red
microphone up there in the corner.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I know Stacey, our good friend Stacy from.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Utah was always using the talkback function, although he texts
sometimes as well.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
So yeah, there are other ways you can do that.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
You can also, you know, you could call us at
three oh three seven three eighty five eighty five, but
nobody would like nobody, I mean a throwback, but I
mean we could do that. You grew up on, did
you see? I grew up on color driven sports talk radio.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Like I grew up on that, So I'm used to
like that.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
In an Arkansas where I was at like people would
line up, they'd get in the queue like an hour
before the show to start, you know, and all that
kind of stuff. I grew up on Rome, you know,
and the smack Off and all that kind of stuff.
But yeah, but we don't really do as much.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Of that around here. This market doesn't really do as
much of that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, And I used to do it, you know, you know,
growing up, they would have a moment on a local
radio station where they're taking radio requests and you want
to sit it out to someone, and you know, I've
done it before, just kind of just hanging on for
like an hour trying to sit a dedication and then
after a certain period of time just decide not.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Not to do it.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
But yeah, I mean I grew up the same same way,
just kind of riding the car with my mom, listening
and hoping that the subject that they're talking about that
you can actually call in and you can chi them
in on it. But sometimes the lines would be so
packed that you can't really get it in yourself. But now,
I mean, we have social media, so if you if
you can't get it in calling, you can work recens.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You could tweet that Nick ferguson under score twenty five
you go, I go, or you can unfollow me at all, right,
NFL garbage. I wouldn't follow me. It's a disaster, and
I'm sorry for your eyes. Yeah, it's not it's that great.
My mentions a horrible.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, I mean, you mentions get a lot of pool,
either pro.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Or con right, Well, I mean, yeah, there are Certainly
there's a lot of response. You know, I get a
lot of interaction, but not all that interaction is so
positive pleasant. Some of that some of that reaction is
less than less than bust people lesson. Wasn't you said
that story group chat earlier today? Was it both shocks
Pitcher Dobbins.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, you know, it's it's kind of wild.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And the reason I really hit home with me is
because obviously Father's Day is on Sunday, they shout out
to all you fathers. But it's like I maybe started
to think about the lies that Father's tail right, because
apparently it seems as though a hundred Dobbins father Lance
Dobbins wasn't so on up and up as it pertains
(02:52):
to his playing for the Yankees and being best friends
with Andy Pennett, who played in the Majors for fifteen
seasons and no one as though the Red Sox and
the Yankees are playing somehow. Hunter Dobbins saim, you know what,
I would ever want a piece for the Yankees. And
everyone's like, oh, okay, well, what's an animosity? Yeah, what's
the reason for you have been on? And it was
(03:13):
just like, well, you know, my dad played for the Yankees,
and oh.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Really, yeah, he said his father, Lance was drafted twice
by New York before later being traded to the Arizona Diamondbacks. Yes,
and when he asked if he had a least favorite
Yankees player, Dobbins singled out of player who seemingly had
ties to his father, can I say all of them?
But Andy Pettitt. Andy Pettitt and my dad were really
good friends, he told. I told the Herald. But the
New York Post Joel Sherman is alleging that Dobbin's made
(03:38):
false claims about his father's pro career and his relationship
with Pennett. Dobbin's father, Lance does not come up as
a Yankees draft pick in any search of the team's
selections on Basall Reference or any single season. Ryan Cashman
has been with the organization so the late eighties had
no recollection of the Yankees drafting last Dobbins, and said
a check with the Yankees' amateur department revealed no drafting
of Lance Dobbins. We're contacted by the poets. Both Joe
(04:02):
Gargiola Junior, who was the Diamonbacks original Jenleal manager, and
Buck Showalter, who was the original manager waiting, said they
had no memory of Lace Dobbins or of making a
trade with the Yankees for a Lance Dobbins.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So with that said, I'm like, Okay, well, yes, does
this add to the Yankees Red Sox robbery? You bet
your backside it does, but not for the obvious reasons.
And this is this gives individuals an opportunity to start
trolling Hunter Dobbins. So I'm not suggesting that you do,
but I can understand if you did because of this
(04:36):
whole concept. But once again, it just had me to think,
biggest story the lies that fathers tell, right, Because I
mean Hunter Dobbins say he never checked with his pops
to even validate the story. It's like this was based
on what he how he grew up photos and listening
to the reporters asked the question, I didn't hear anyone
(04:57):
press him on that particular question. You said, photo, what
photos are their photos of your father in a Yankees
uniform or with Andy Pettitt. Because the way I look
at it, like this, just because I dined in the
same establishment that Michael Jordan once dined in, it doesn't
mean that I met Michael Jordan's We were friends, me
(05:18):
and his Arrie, And it's just like, wait a minute,
just because it's a story that one cannot prove, especially
when you tell your kids when they're younger, because kids
look up to their dads, their dads are their heroes.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But I would say it's made me start.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
To think what type of lies did my father tell
me when I was a kid, and what type of
lives do fathers tell their kids now? Just like some Yeah,
I was talking to my cousins lives in DC, and
he told me, Well, the type of lie that you
know he may tell his kids is like, look, hey,
even though I know my child might not have played
well in a particular sport or his team, but you
(05:54):
tell him, you know what, keep giving it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
The good old college trick.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know it's gonna work out for full Well, no
that son, yes, And or the team is best.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's the father time lied, you tail, right, That's that's
the kind of lie you tell.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, so funny funny story here, Like my I had
this situation because my dad and my dad, to his credit,
was a phenomenal golfer, like phenomenal golfer.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
He was very good golf. I witnessed it personally. I
like he was a very good golf. But he always
told us growing up that he was on the tour.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Tour, yeah, like back in the seventies, and he would
like he was like he would he would, I mean,
and I'm telling you like watching my dad play, he
was a phenomenal goal he wrote to his credit, he
was a phenomenal golfer. And I hate that guy, so
like I'm not giving him any credit on anything. I
can't that's said he used to tell. He used to
say that he was a former He used to say
that he was a former profession not a golf pro,
but on the tour, like specifically on the tour. And
(06:46):
you know, I repeated that because thinking, you know, there's
no way my dad lied about that whatever, And I
repeated that. And then a few years ago, when people
were making up all that nonsense about my military career
and then everything else. They posted that because they're like,
you know, hey, he lied about his.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Dad being and I was like, dude, my dad lied.
I didn't know. I checked my dad and I never
checked to see if he had a tour card.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Like I felt like an idiot because I was like, okay,
you got me there, there's nothing, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
And so yeah, so they that was But fathers do
lie to impressed their son. Is it lying or is
it just over embellishing a little too much?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well, he served me in bellot because he didn't never
have a tour card. Now, I mean again, I saw
my dad play.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I literally watched him play around of golf with then
Arkansas Governor Mike Couckabee and the Daily brothers, John Day
and his brother and you know my dad.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
So that's easy for you to fall into that.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It was, well, yeah, we had like I had visual
represented my dad's playing golf with important people. Some of
these guys are actual pros now Here twenty se years later,
my dad's hanging like those were your reseats. Yeah, Like
I was like I saw this because it wasn't you know,
So yeah, I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was funny, but I mean in the end, it
was one of those things.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Where I looked like an idiot, though you know, I
personally looked like an idiot for that, for for that
later on in life, because I had some tweets out
there about my dad being a pro golfer and stuff,
and then I look like an idiot for it.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I feel sorry for a hundreds in this situation, Zach.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Have you ever had someone in your family.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Heard a story of like like dad lies? Like what
there is there such thing as a good dad lie?
I think there could definitely be good dad lies.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Maybe cover some things up, make make the story a
little more simple and less complicated.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Here for the fish story, you know, watch the movie
Big Fish, the Timbert movie. No, you should watch that.
It's a good movie. Great, I'm here. I'm here for that,
Like if you would like I caught a fish.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Well, I mean, the story is about how his dad
kind of embellished a lot of things to make you anyway.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But I'm gonna have to talk to my dad now
after this, because I don't I guess.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
The statute of limitations must not be up there. I
don't know what dad. I don't need somebody coming out
on me. And my dad died back in two thousand
and three, and you know, bleep that guy. He was terrible.
But but that said like it was one of those
things like I was like, all right, well, at least
I have this good note. Now I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yes, it's just like wait a minute. I mean, you
you look up to your parents and especially your father,
right that this is the man of the household, and
this is who you lean on, this is who you
kind of develop part of your personality after you know
is your is your dad and knowing that your dad
told you a couple of things that were a little
(09:15):
maybe lies applications over embellishment.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Right, and now you grow up and you find out
it's not true.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And I would hate to be in Hunter of Dobbins
situation where he finds out what his father once told him,
or or another scenario, his father might have said some things.
And I know as kids sometimes we use a figments
of our own imagination. I could have been one of
those types of things.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know. In this particular case,
I don't think it's gonna hurt Hunter Dobbins too too much.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I mean, he was endeared himself to the fan base
talking about I never want to be a Yankee and
for a bus Sox picture. I don't think there's a
better thing you can say being.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
A Yankee fan. Okay, I get it. Yes, So now
he's even better because his dad never pitched for him.
You know what it's like.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It's to find out like his dad never pitched for
for anyone.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
At you well at that we have records off you know,
maybe he was in the Arizona. The one thing we
haven't really confirmed is the Arizona thing like that nobody
remembers him there, but we haven't confirmed it.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Like we've confirmed with the Yankees.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
That he was never could be a thing where he
was in maybe training camp maybe you know, one of
those kind of things, and it wasn't it wasn't really
official because he didn't make it to the opening day rassa.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Maybe it wasn't with the Yankees. I'll say that he
was never with the Yankees, had no employment wreck, no,
w know, nothing like he didn't show. He was never
there the d Backs. We don't know yet that just
that the two general managers just don't remember that.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
See some was a game on mind is kind of
racing here, not just with a Hunter Dobbins, But the
whole idea is of what our parents don't tell us.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like for me, I don't know about you guys, but.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
It was it was hard trying to get my parents
to tell us about family health records, meaning like did
anyone have pre.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Existing heart disease or diabetes?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Like it's like, these are things that you don't even
speak of in my family.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But it just made me think.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
About certain for Brimley had gotten us through that we
could talk about diabetes.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
No, you would think so, but not in my family.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
They just kind of keep things close to the chest.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Which it's like finding out later on, like here's the
worst lie that you can get from a parent, either
mom or dad.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It was a kid that was that went to your
school and everyone.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Thought that, eh, that kid looks vaguely like you, right,
and then you're like whatever, Come ten years later you
find out, hey, man, remember that do that was went
to your school and he was in the fifth grade.
You in the fourth grade. Oh, by the way, that
was your brother. Like it's just like, what's going on?
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And those are the type of lines that you want
to make sure that you never hear from a parental standpoint.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
It just made me start to think about this whole
thing with a hundred dig is the some of the
lies or Adie better word, have truth parents.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I don't believe in half true. Something's either true or
it didn't. You know, something is something is is either
true or it isn't. I at the end of the day,
I don't you know.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
His dad lied to him. I mean he did. My
dad lied to me. He did. Hey, it's one of those,
like it's one of those and you're talking about the
brothers thing. Yeah, I found out I had a half brother. Yeah,
eighteen years old. Time I a conscious decision that my
parents did kept myself. Yeah, I had a half brother.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
No, he received I found that out when I was seventeen,
eighteen something like that.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Anyway, I've only seen Adam a few times in my life.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, I don't have a relationship with him or anything
like that, but you know, yeah, yeah I found that out.
You know, I'm telling you, I mean, to your point,
you just did you just really read up on me,
and I think his fingers I did not know that
I just tried to figure out one of the more.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Egregious things that you can experience as a child from
childhood too, Those are that your parents may have not
told you.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
The only thing worse than that is finding out that
someone that lived in the house with you for so
long find out now that's not really your father.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Oh no, okay, I'm gonna all that. Yeah, unfortunately I
wish that were the case. I wish I had found
that out.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And now, yeah, my dad had been previously married for
you know, for my mom' stuff and had a kid
and whatnot, but they didn't have a relationship anymore, and
so that was thing. Just kept it from us until
uh as my grandfather died and he was coming to
the funeral and that's when they that's when they told us.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I don't know, but but once again that this Haunter
Dobbin's story, it just made me think like wow, for
this story to come out at this particular time, knowing
that Father's Day is Sunday, why they I'm a thinking
about to play each other too, Yes, Saturday, play each
other Saturday. Just made it just made me think like
I want to call my parents and ask them Hey, listen, one.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Time, one time only.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Is there anything that I need to know that you
didn't tell me years ago?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Just just tell me, lean slate, That's what I want
to do now.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
There's on the Father's Day note, there's one that's kind
of reminiscent of this.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You're talking about.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
How finding out your dad's not your dad reminded me
of it. There's an unbelievable story book from a journalist,
Sarah Spain is dropping this week about the whole ordeal,
but about the Raiders running back coach. He and his father,
who he recently discovered was his father, have a very
similar story.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
That is remarkable.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
It's like they went to the same school without even
realizing it. The guy his dad became a professional mentor
to him. As he hold on for a second, Dylon McCullough, Yes,
that story.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He's a former teammate of mine in Cincinnati. We were
teammates with him.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yes, we were teammates together. And I remember when I
first saw the story, I called him because he and
I played together in Cincinnati are rookie year. Then we
played we were teammates again with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers
and the guy who was his father was with the
Seattle Seahawks when I did my coaching internship with him,
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and I didn't think anything of it.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
He was so The funny thing is he was with
the Seahawks, is they're running backs coach under Pete Carroll.
How his son is the running backs coach under Pete
Carroll with the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Once again, that's a wild story within itself. And you're right,
his dad, who didn't know at the time, was definitely
his mentor, but also the same guy who recruited him
out of high school. And it's just like how old
God's green Earth can things like this actually happen. And
it was a great story because now he gets a
(15:43):
chance to be with his dad, they reunited, they're both
running back coaches. I mean, to me, Hollywood couldn't have
written a better script. But the question always goes back
to what type of falsehoods that our parents tell us
or keep away from us.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, Sherman didn't know that either, right, No, father, he
did not know. He did not know. Okay, he did
not know. I knew dealer.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I mean he didn't know what I couldn't ever remember.
If the father didn't know that neither one, neither one
knew that. That is incredible.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
His mother kept it from the father and gave the
kid up for no one knew. The mom and her
family kept it secret because it was in the sixties
or seventies or whatever. The dad didn't know until twenty
thirty years later when Nicola finally found out and reached
out and initiated the connection when they were already close
lifelong friends and professional mentor mentee.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, that's uh, yeah, it would have been early. Wouldn't
have been a sixties, had been a seventies, seventies eight. Yeah,
that's it. Once again, phenomenal story.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But all I'm saying is I cannot be just the
only person that now is wondering. Okay, well, what things
did my parents not tell me? Right, like we know
during the holiday season, especially in April.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well, some thing's not on one of though.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Ok I don't need to know that I was conceived
in a red lobster parking lot something like that.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I don't need to know. Hey, who knows. I mean,
you may say, well, that's not asking.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
That question because I don't want to find that out.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Well, that's maybe where your your affinity for lobster came
from who knows.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I'm just saying, you never know. Like my mom would
stay back that I love to eat on.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Thanksgiving because that's kind of when she kind of ate
fool and I was, and she gave birth to me
like later on their Thanksgiving. So it's it's it's one
of those things. But I know I cannot be the
only person who is now wondering what is it that
their parents left out in their childhood?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
All right, let me go step further.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Since you've got kids at Oh see, that's the difference.
I tell them everything case in point really quickly. Everything
almost everything, almost everything. There's certain there's certain things that
(18:00):
go along with the Parenthal cove that you shouldn't tell
your kids. That has a lot to do with brock drown.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Give it up, that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Like when my son was we lived in California, they
had this little like little Derby race with the cars
that they had to make, and he came back like that,
but they had to make their own cars, but it's
like wooden small cars, and they gave all the kids
little trophies and ribments. Okay, I took my kids trophy
(18:31):
and rivet through in the trash.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Participation. Yes, it didn't make.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
My wife too happy about it, but I was like, no,
we are not promoting participation, right, it's one thing first
second or whatever. But just getting a ribbon and a
trophy because you participated, people.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Scream at me, be mad. You raise your kids the
way you raise them. I'm not with participation trophies fair enough.
I never liked you.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I didn't like getting them. I was like, oh, this
is a loser award. Thanks, you know, not that I
had so many.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Come on, let's give a little Johnny keeps it one
little college try.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
No, yeah, I don't know. We need to think about that.
One other things paris labout. You know, it doesn't lie
all a lie pacers up too. One'm gonna talk about
the NBA next. What do you got going here?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Zach?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
What is this?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I was looking for a song called butter to, you know,
his little homage to our friend Ben and his red
lobster backstore.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
You know that that is very interesting that be Been
actually said that. I don't know how true it is
the fact that he was conceived in a red lobster
park park a lot, but knowing him the way I do,
I guess there may be a little part of me
that believes that that could be possible.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Don't you think.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Maybe that's why he's so cheesy, like those cheddar Bay
biscuits or whatever they call you know what.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Uh, maybe it's so you know, maybe Benjamin Olbright was
conceived in a red lobster.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Park park a lot that may have happened. Yes, that's
where my parents went on the first table.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That's why you love cheddar biscuits. That's what Zach seegers Old.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Bay cheddar biscuits.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
See.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Oh me, yeah, put that whole bad. You know what
I'm talking about. Yes, I'm not that. Do you know
what Old Bay seasoning is? Of course?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah? Really that stuff?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, I have some at home.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Okay, I think he said, yeah, I'm not talking about pepery.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
That's talk about it red a granted I have used
it in a while. Yeah, that's a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, yes, okay, Matty, sure you're not talking about the
lowry salt.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Here Baltimore stuff. It's the Baltimore Okay, all right, let
me find a cultured man in the world.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I think keep I honestly didn't think you know, Yes,
I got a full spice cabinet. I got a full
spice cabinet and I have to reply.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It from regularly. We all fulled up. You got a
big spice wreck, huge wreck.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
What do you mean you have with spice cabinet like
you have a you have a girlfriend? Right, yeah, okay,
you guys live together. Yeah, you mean she has a
spice rack because.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Hey, man, I I do a lot of the cooking.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I might do the majority of the cooking even really wow,
if I'm working Broncos Country tonight, like granted tonight, she's
definitely cooking for us. But I I do a lot
of the cooking on weekends, I'd say I I'm the
one cooking.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I say, my my relationships have always been the most well,
I've mostly been.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
He phrased that, Zach.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
When we first started, she would make anything, and by
the time we were you know, she was mostly cooking.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You know, she was cooking a lot by that point.
But I'm I love to cook. I love to make food.
I like to be the one making food. Really yeah,
you find out something new every day.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Didn't take Benjamin Albright for being a chef boy r.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
D Man of Marketable Skill in college, which was the
last time I.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Say the probably the real reason that it all came
about was because, you know, living in that bachelor life,
eventually you got to feed yourself some other than Delaca.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You could only eat out so many times. Well, that's
not like.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I can't get into that right now, find zeros the
text line he show rubbed us in the leads text
basketball I may have had, I may have. I may
have texted Dave Logan last night talking a little smack.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I may I may have. What did you put on
the game on the wager? Well, he and I have
a series wager oh okay.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Which is I took the Pacers and I took seven
games and he said, okay, see and then it won't
go seven.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Well, you know what, there's a famous hip hop artist
by the name of jay Z who at the beginning
of this series put a million dollars on ok se
to win in five. Guess what I got news Jay,
I'm just saying I'm not putting a dollar he put a.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
He put that net has already busted. But I mean, like,
you know, Chris Daughtry would sing that it's not over.
But no, Chris, it's over.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's over.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, it's the Pacers, and people don't get this. So
the Pacers started off the season it was like ten
and fifteen. They were like they were after twenty five
games or ten to fifteen, And a large part of
that is because three of their best players were hurt.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Three they didn't get them back all the way healthy,
and so they started off the season.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So since February, the Pacers has been the second best
team in basketball.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Second best team to who Okay see exactly, but by record.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But what I'm saying is just like, like, the Pacers
are a good basketball team with a ton of depth,
and I think everybody underestimated how much that depth matters,
because Okay, see, what they do is they just keep
throwing bodies at you, right, and then they take off
in the third quarter when they when they wore you down.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You coming out a halftime, they've.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
They've worn you down, You got a little you know,
you go for your second win, and then they wear
you out the second half that third quarter.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And that's what they do.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And they've got a tenth and eleventh guy that can
come in, like Isaiah Joe can come off the bench
and put eight points up on a.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Couple of threes.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
You know they've got guys deep in that the Pacers
had that too, and that's been the.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Key to what the Pacers have done. They can continue to.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Match you body for body because they can roll ten
and eleven deep and so they're not tired like other
teams are, and and and Okay, so he's not used
to that inter.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Thing that bothers me about this whole series, and everything
that you're saying is everything I love about the series,
because Okay, see, it was a team last year who
they jumped on the scene with SGA, and SGA was
in a conversation last year about being being the MVP race.
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But these are two franchises that I would say come.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
From smaller markets.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, and both teams play great defense and they can
kind of light up the.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Statue as we've seen the Pacers do.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And Tyrese Halliburton, who I guess emerge as that I
guess Phoenix from the Ashes based on I guess his teammates,
not his teammates.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But Peers Peers declared orated.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I remember when that pole came out, because I think
it was it was either Zachar Grant I was talking
to or walked in and I'm like, bro, how did
Tyrese Halibert get putting the most overrated when he might
be one of the most underrated players in the league.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I really don't know how that happens.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
But the fact that you get these two teams here
and you don't have your typical blue blood NBA team, Yeah,
that's why the ratings, The whole situation with the ratings
drives me crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So people are missing good basketball.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
They are, but they are tuning it out because a
couple of things. They don't like either of these two teams.
They don't think that either of these two teams have
great NBA stars. Albeit that s GA, but some people
don't like him because they say, well, he gets a
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lot of calls going to the free throw line. Yeah, miya,
foul grifter.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But when he's not doing that, he's a brilliant basketball
player too. But even it's like Barry Bonds, right, Bob
before the Cream and the Clear, was still a hell
of baseball player. He was all of favor based on
his career before he got the fat head.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, you know, that's the epitomy of true fat head.
Because his head grew grew a couple of inches. But
when you look at this this game. It's just like
there's a lot of fans who are very upset, and
they're upset because SGA is getting calls. But when you
are the aggressor, when you have constantly been a certain
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way offensively and defensively, that's how the game is going
to get caught.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
And the one thing I.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Love about this series, Ben, is that it reminds me
of eighties and ninety basketball. What I mean by that
the officials are allowing them to play play defense.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, reminds you of like and that was the last series.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
When you were watching the Knicks and the Pacers, it
reminded you of the glory year Nick Pacer, the Reggie
Miller years. Yet you know Dale Davis, Antonio, Davis, Mark
Chats and Reggie millose guys, and then the Knick said
John Starks and Charles Oakley and Ewing and Alan Houston,
those guys. It was sort of a great, great rivalry.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
And the one thing that makes the rivalry is that
both squads have marquee players. Some have guys who are
household names, other just guys.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Who are great role players who fit their roles.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But once again, they bring that love women basketball intent
like there are people who hated Dennis Rodman. Yeah, I
love Dennis Rodman because to me he was unconditionally.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Himself, no matter him and unapologetically himself too.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Yes, on the court, off the court, he was himself
bad as he wanted to be bad? Is he he
wanted to be in a drugs movie he was in
with John Claude Van Dam and one of the bay
Watch girls or something was it?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, Dennis Rodman, he was like some agent or something
like that. You don't remember that.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
No, Oh, I might have to lucas up during the
during the bike I think, wait a minute, it's coming
to him. Because I see that you said it was
a big one of the girls from bay Watch. I
think that's a different kind of movie.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Zach did record scene the Philli be represent is called
double team.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Double Team. I'm pretty sure that's something else, Dude, the
wrong genre. No, I don't think that was it. I
thought it was John Cludevan Dam.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Maybe I'm wrong with John Claude Van Dam, Dennis Rodman,
Mickey Rourke and Valeria Kavali.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Maybe that's okay, that might be correct. He might be correct.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yes, I'm gonna have like green hair yeah, yeah, okay, hair, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I think in this instance double team is a basketball problem.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Sure goes into different directions.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I mean, look, look which everybody into the sound of
his microphone thought the same thing when they heard the
title movie five six six nights. There was a text
ie tell me I'm wrong. I'm just saying, well, of
course we're news, talk and sports. Here a little bit
of breaking news. Israel has launched a preemptive strike against Iran.
(28:41):
In a statement to Israeli Defense Mister Israel Cats declared
a special state of emergency in the country in anticipation
of an Iranian retaliation for the strike. Targets in the
extent of the attack are currently unclear, but we will
have an update with KOA News here at the top
of the hour of the ongoing situation.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Again, Israel has a Iran. During the break there, Nick,
you and I were talking with our boss. What a story.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, that was a smoking story. It blows anything that
I have out of.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
The water, blew mine out of the water.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I was like, Wow, they got to make a movie
about Dave Tepper's family's life.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I'm just saying, I just it was one of those
things like when someone's telling you.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
A story and it's so good, you're like, wow, continue
and we were coming out of break but yeah, extraordinary story.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
But see that goes back to what I was saying earlier.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Why I raised a question based on the Hunter Dobbins situation.
There's a lot of things that happen in our youth
that our parents feel as though they are.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Protecting us from the real world.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
So they're opting to tell us certain things or not
tell us certain things. And I'm still intrigued to call
my parents and ask the question, but also to tell
my kids certain things about, you know, my early upbringing
or what I might have done in college, just to
make sure that they don't do the same things.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, I you know, my.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Parents pulled us out of school when I would have
been the fourth grade. The homeschool was for a little while,
and the reasoning at the time was they tell me, well,
been your advanced for your age, and we want you
to be able to have challenging curriculum all that kind
of stuff, which.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Was partially true. I mean they wanted to skip me
grades and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
But the three reason they pulled us out is because my brother,
who was a grade behind me was was struggling.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Up bit and they wanted to catch him.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
They would have him be at home to catch him up,
but they were trying to protect him from you know.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Which Again, those are the things that you do, right,
that's kind of falls in the line of lies.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, totally forgivable my ego, but they really were you.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Know, well, yes, but just like if you know that
you have a kid that maybe be struggling academically and
it's just.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Say they have a C grade, right, and you want
to be encouraging.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You don't want to say something out of pockets to
your kids that have really wretched their world and detroys them.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Listen, it's a see.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Now you have the capabilities of bringing it up to
a B or B whatever it is. These are the
things that you do from a parent standpoint that I
can agree that these are great things to do.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
But then there's other things like, man, you should have told.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Me, yeah, like there's yeah, there's some things I don't
want to know. But I mean if there was something
like like like that, you know, like what he was
talking like, I would want to know that kind of stuff. Okay,
I don't want talk about that in there because I
don't want put his family.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
But here's here.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
How about this that you think that your father is
a diehard Broncos fan, right, and then one day you
come to find out that he's not a Broncos fan.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
He's truly a Raiders fan. I mean, like, yeah, I
guess I don't.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I mean, see, look you see Zach just raised them
in his shirt, Like I'm sorry, what but see.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I'm not like I'm a football fan. I don't have
an allegiance to it. I was from Denver, Ivis. He
didn't play for the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
This is not for you, But I just say, like I'm.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Trying to imagine and like I'm trying to imagine that
because I honestly.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I don't know who my dad's team was.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
How about this is that she didn't like he never
really he watched all football the time, but he never
really made that. It may have been Dallas when Jerry
bought the team just leave Arkansas, but like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Here's this is blasphemous and it's not true.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
But what if you found out that Mestas wasn't a
true Broncos fan and she was to keep that secret?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
She doesn't like that. She doesn't want that to be
publicly numb. But you kind of see the old opener,
like the darts. You know, she could totally be. She
loves every She's like Ben part Vampire.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Her good friend that constantly wears nothing but all black spikes.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
She's got the gorilla costume. Yes, I'm just saying, there's
a Darth Vader mask comedition. What would that do to you, Zach?
How would that wreck your friendship?
Speaker 4 (32:49):
I mean, she's kind of like a framed Tom Brady jersey.
So in that specific case, you know, the bar's already
set so low.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
We didn't know I was about to do some detective
work on that. Coming up, we gott hit a break guys.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
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