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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you to CBS's Road Being for joining us in
the last segment. Also for Hall of Fame Steve Atwater
for talking about black T shirts and mayonnaise for an hour.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Of our conversations about maynaise and black T shirts. Don't
forget the dogs.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Oh yeah, we liked the dogs too.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
The Dinner Bell we hit the supper Verse Dinner. Summer
Versus Dinner covered a lot of ground with Steve. We
really did, I think we for the culture. I mean honestly,
we really. Yes, Yes, that's why this is uh yeah,
that's what we do.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
When you hit the deat of summer and there's nothing
to talk about it and the Rocky suck out loud
like there's there's just nothing to there's you know, sometimes
we got to talk about this stuff, guys, we do.
You know, there's there's not a whole lot of news
that said there was actually uh some news and I
do want to get into this. Deon Sanders came out
and talked to coach brom talked a little bit about
the things he wants to see happen in college football.
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There's some overlap with some little been banging the table
for so, without further ado, here's a coach prime talking
about things you want to see happen in college football.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
What I would change in college football?
Speaker 6 (01:08):
It has to be like it has to be, and
they're trying to implement it's got to be a salary
cap on this stuff, because this stuff is going crazy
and nobody know where it's going to land, where it's
going to end, and you have so many different doors.
It's like I would see a player that said he
got an offer from another school, and I'm trying to
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figure out why you guys haven't investigated, and how is
that possible when the guy's not in the portal?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
How's that? Now that was one of my players, you
guys would be all over it.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
I'm trying to figure out, how can somebody say you
got a five million dollar offer? How and the kid
is not in the portal? So I think we need
to be up right and upstanding. Secondly, I like the
professional rules to be implemented in college they're getting ready
to be pros. So let's go two feet in, you know,
on the catches. Let's mark the file if fast interference.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Let's do the same thing the pro game is.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Let's reduce it to college and let's do something about
the uniforms.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
We got guys out there in back of shorts.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
That makes me sick because I'm a I'm a football guy,
like I played this game at a high level, and
I have so much respect for this game. And how
can we allow guys out there in back of shorts,
no knee pads, know nothing, literally pants up on under
their thighs and that's cool. So I think that should
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be a fine implemented for that stuff. And let's let's
have more respect for this tremendous game.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Now.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I could go all day when you talk about making
the changes.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
But we have a pretty good game, a darn good game,
one of the best games I think in sports. That's
why we attract so many people, especially to Colorado Buffaloes.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
We attract so many eyeballs.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
You want to see us win, you want to see
us lose, but you want to see us But I
wish we could implement some of those things, just just
three off the top.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Of my head.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
You know what it's there was a lot to unpack
there where coach prim has said. So I'll start with
the first thing first. When you think about the nil money,
a lot of it's coming in. I still think that
college players deserve to be paid based on what institutions
may offer their production, but there needs to be a.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Cap of some sort.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
I was never a fan of a guy agreeing to
go to the institution there is financial compensation and then
all of a sudden, you know, things don't go the
way that the player wants, and now he is looking
to jump into the portal.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
To me, the idea is.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
That if you are entering into this contract with an
institution and there's a certain dollar value associated with it,
you should be obligated along with the institution to I
guess solidify that agreement, so you should not be able
to jump. If so, then there should be compensation from
the team for the team that you're leaving. Well, and
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you're going to another team, they should give you some
kind of conversation for that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I hate the idea of one year deals on EDIL
like gear to your deals. I hated the idea of
your your scholarships I hated that, even though Saban was
one of the guys that pushed that back in the day.
Like to me, it's you offer a four year scholarship
and that's, you know, is what it is. I'm antiquated
with what comes out. I don't care about the BikeE
shorts thing like, I don't care about that. But yeah,
there needs to be a salary cap on the nil.
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Are you going to have to have tears levels as
it were. You're gonna have to realign conferences and get
rid of them altogether and start having salary floor, salary
ceiling things for tournaments because teams just aren't going to
be able to compete. There are schools that are just
not able to compete with the Ohio States and Alabamas
and Georgia's and LSU's and you.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Know, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
There are you're just not you know, you can't. There
are schools out there that it does not have the ability.
Colorado State is never going to be able to afford
to spend twelve million dollars a season on one quarterback
like Michigan did.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
So what do you say to those schools who say,
when you think about the baseball. Baseball doesn't really have
like a salary cap.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I think a salary cap.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
If you want to make your sport more competitive, you
got to create parody. And the way you create parodi
has put everybody on equal footing. This is the maximumount
of money you could spend.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Even the NBA has been moving and moving and moving
towards a salary cap. They've got this convoluted aprons and
luxury tax nonsense that at the next CBA they just
need to get rid of and put a salary cap
on it be done with it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
But that's the only way that the end. The NFL
has got it right.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
They've got it figured out, and everybody should be trying
to copy them.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
That's what you should be doing.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
There.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That by far the most popular sport, and there's a
reason they're the most popular sport is because on.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Any given day, anybody can win it.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
But this is the one thing that every sport is
looking to do to differentiate themselves in some way from
other sports.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
When you think about NFL.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Football, CFL, full foall, it's football, but the rules are different.
Less men, wider fields. Things are like that because these
professional leagues they are competing for your dollars, so they
have to give you something. They just can't give you
a regular hot dog. Now we got to Now, if
they give you Ben has given you a hot dog,
breat wants to give you a hot dog with Skyline
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chili with relish and mustard on it. Something to make
it different to where you want their product. But I
do agree with Prime when it comes to changing the
rules to be similar to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And here's what I mean.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
We know about the two foot rule in the NFL,
and some guys have issues adjusting to that when they
first come into the league. Well, the other thing is
when you when you look at the kickoff, the kickoff
has changed, and we can have another discussion as to
why the NFL decided to change that rule after so
many years. But now, to me, you can start that
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earlier from pop Water to high school and the pros
and get those kids acclimated so once they get to
the NFL, they have an opportunity to actually earn a
job because they are now familiar with the rules.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, I'm fine with college keeping the rules the way
they are. I'm fine with the one foot rule in college.
I'm fine with wider hashes in college You're right, the
kickoff probably does need to change so that it mirrors
what's at the top of the game. But I'm fine
with the little quirks that make things different across that
all that kind of stuff. I think you think the
only thing is the NIL money has changed and the
halves are becoming increasingly the halves. You don't have a
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chance anymore for a team to play spoiler even make
the tournament really if you're not spending obscene amounts of money.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
So essentially, the NL is killing the idea of the underdog, and.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
The NIL is killing the competitive balance. If you're a
school that has a ton of money, you're going to
be competitive. And if they don't, yeah, and if you don't,
you're not just period, And is that what we want?
Is that what we want college football to be? I mean,
I'm all for everybody get in the bag in an
era where you know, I'm not trying to take anybody's
money away. What I'm trying to say is that if
you want to keep the sport the way it is,
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you're either going to have to realign into an almost
European style soccer regulation model. The base the based on
based on salary spent you know at each level, or
are are you know, are you just going to basically
have a bunch of people, a bunch of schools. You're
gonna have twenty twenty five schools that are really in
the in it every year and the rest of you
guys are not, and they're never gonna be so.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
With conference real alignment, like we've seen over the past
couple of years, we've seen the dissolvement of the PAC
twelve even though they're trying to get other teams in it.
But then a lot of the PAC twelve teams are
now joining, you know, the Big ten. And when you
look at the time change the travel that they actually have,
and when what's.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That doing to the athletes?
Speaker 7 (08:49):
No one's considering that because it's all about the dollar,
the TV dollars.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's all about the dollar, because.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You have to have the money to pay the guys
to come win games. And that's the end result is
you got to win games. And if you don't win games,
you're not going to be in it. And if you're
not in it, what's the point? Balls don't matter anymore.
And I knew this was going to happen when they
decided to do a championship like that.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You could have made the balls matter.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You could have made each game in the playoff a
bowl game, a different you know, one of the bowl
games that rotated them through. You could have done that.
But you know, cats out of the back for that.
Bowl games don't matter anymore, so all.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Them are they trying to or this is an example
of course correction because you get rid of the bcs
if you get to college football playoffs and then you
only have a certain amount of teams and then now,
guess what we're gonna have what eight twelve this year,
sixteen something like.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That, something like that.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
And once again, to me, you think that you're making
it better, but you're actually making it worse at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, it should be an eight team playoff, that's what
That was the perfect number. And back then you had
the five conference Power five. Now you've got Power four.
You know, the champions from each of those are four
large bids, you know, and go from there. And I
mean that that's the perfect number of the perfect balance.
You could have used bowl games as the you know,
the game, so there's no home field advantage, you know,
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by the way it corporate s There are plenty of
ways to do this and continue to monetize that they don't.
But at the end of the day, college football now
is who has the money.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
And you can look.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You can look at the amount of money that is
spent per team and the wins that they get off
that money, and I promise you it is a direct correlation.
Seem like the problem, the worst problem is this is
the downtrace problem.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Is that if a school gets.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
A star player, recruits and gets and develops a star player,
they're gonna have them for one season because then the
school with the money's gonna come and say, come play
for us, come win a championship, and oh, by the way,
I'm gonna buy you. I'm gonna pay you more than
you can make it.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Okay, So if that's kind of where the direction we're
going in kind of where we are right now. And
this is why I'm a fan of saying, okay, well,
if you sign player A and we say, well, we're
doing a two year contract and in that time period
someone offers you more money to leave, once again, we
should be.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Well say that for that.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Almost like in the NFL, you get those compensatory picks.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
But for college football.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
It's just like, Okay, well we want that in a
form of revenue, so now we can go out and
use that revenue that the school that you're going to
you're leaving from, they can now pay us, and we
can go out there and better our roster with that money.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
To me, I don't think things will ever be.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
As balanced as you want it to be, but to
me that that's kind of the best way to do it,
opposed to developing a player and your team and your
organization being somewhat of a farm league for everyone else
to come and pick your players and pay them absorbed
amount of money and you left there.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
What holding the bag?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's exactly it. And then the problem with that reflection
that is baseball. The Kansas City Royals were that team
for a long time, a mid market baseball team, small
market baseball team that could not afford. They would get
great players, they develop them, they bring them up, and
then what happens. So when I was signed free agency
hits and the Yankee like, we'll offer you twenty times
what the Royals will offer you to play it because
we because I got some money, and what are you
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doing you, me and Grant all three. I'm gonna go
play in New York. I'll shave the beard and so like.
That's because that used to be a thing. Now I
think you can mustache. I don't even think can you
can you do the I guess you could do.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
The mustache.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Beard.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, we'll probably not on this lethal. You have to
tone it down a.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Little bit more Boston Red.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Right, But you get the idea. That's why baseball sucks
so bad.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It's because you know, there's four teams in baseball and
it's gonna be one of those four that wins it.
And it used to be sort of that way in basketball.
Now you're getting a little bit more parody. Is they've
got the luxury tax and you're seeing teams that draft
and develop well like Okay, see in Indiana, starts start
to flourish because they could keep their own because of
those luxury taxes. That's the reason that you've seen teams
like Kansas City again, the same market. We were just
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talking about the Royals and baseball, but but Kansas City's
proven that if there's a salary cap in the sport,
then they can and the Chiefs have been able to
do that once, say, identified the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
So that's sort of the thing.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Like, if you're going to create a sport that has
the idea that everybody can be competitive, if you've got
to have a cap on salary or else, the people
that have the most money are just going to outspend
you and they're gonna win.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
But sports has definitely shown us that that is that's.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Not the case.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Just looking in the NBA, you have big market team,
small market teams, and we would just I guess I
don't know about you, but we were just entertained with
the Pacers and OKAC, two teams that are viewed as
fly over cities.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Right.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Their teams have been competitive over the years, but those
are not places where players are going like, oh man,
when I've become a free agent, man, I can't wait
to go to OKAC.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
It's not that way.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
It's now becoming that way in Denver has slowly become
that way based on the Nuggets and the way they played,
but more importantly having a Kola Jokic. Once Nicola Jokice
cause of a career, the Nuggets might go back to
those dark ages where it was before, where it's difficult
to get players to come here unless you're going to
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pay them an observed amount of money.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
But now you run into salary cap issues.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Well yeah, and that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Like now, since the NBA has put a pseudo de
facto salary cap, these luxury thresholds have basically made it
a soft cap. And the next CBA they'll they'll put
a salary cap in and it'll be called that. But
as it sits right now, that's why you're seeing Indiana
and Okase able to do that. If there was no
salary cap, the Lakers would absolutely be ripping off and
get these players. The Clippers would absolutely be going to
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get in these The wealthy teams in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Would have all these players.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
They'd be getting the shot Gildes, Alexander leave Okac come
out for the bright lights of a big city and oh,
by the way, we could pay you four times.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
With the paying his what would happened in that case?
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Then every team would have that those deep pockets and
we would see every year or two years, Lebron James
joining those teams because he wants to win another chip.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Right, that's exactly what we would see.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I mean that it is, I mean, you know, there's
max contracts that you get the CARA the max contract
is caps so you kind of stay where you are
because you already know that you're getting a max contract
and they can offer you more money. The NBA incentivizes
for them for the best players. But yeah, I mean,
at the end of the day, money's pretty much what
drives just about everything.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And it does.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I mean, you think about it. If it was uh,
let's put it in terms that you can understand. If
it was a different radio station in town it was saying, hey,
we're going to offer you four times what you're making
right there, Nick Ferguson's you know, it's been real, okay, away,
I'm just saying, you know, you get to see from
paper I'm rich.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You know it's I am about this.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
It's like it's it's that's what it is, and so
you have to That's it's the thing now, just that
artificially depressed player salaries.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yes it does.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Is it unfair to players because it caps out what
a player can make?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yes, it does.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
But at the same time, it's the only way that
you can keep a sport competitive and in that regard,
otherwise the wealthy teams just squeeze out the other guy.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
And this is this is the same thing that would
happen or is happening in college college football.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
And the way that you somewhat try to balance it
is you implement a selar cat. But now you answer
into another. I guess stratus feared that college football, though,
doesn't want to end up in and a lot of
businesses that don't want anyway. And that means unions, right,
because if you have a union, that means there's a
potential of guess what, a strike and they don't want that.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, and they and that that's the worst part about that.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But you know they just collected bargaining for both those
who are coming up soon, we'll see, we'll come back.
We got an NFL six back here, ka, let's get
to an NFL six pack.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It's time for the NFL six path.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I'm gonna take a lot of.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Beer, insight and insight information you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
The top six NFL headline.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
What for a Brontos safety Justin Simmons.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Obviously, he's been an All Pro and a Pro Bowler
over the course of his nine year NFL career, but
he's never appeared a playoff.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Game and changing that is the top thing on.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
His mind as he looks for a place to play
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Reports back in June.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Indicated the Panthers were interested, but no signing was eminent.
It might not come together if Simmons continues to prioritize
the chance to get the postseason. Justin sign with the
Falcons last year after his eight year run with the
Broncos came to an end. Justin said he's taking his
time before signing or anywhere else because he wants to make.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Sure that the team is that a position to succeed.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Talking with the Denver Post, he said, quote, I think
Atlanta I would still pick ten times out of ten
if I was in the spot last year, but in
terms of where I'm at now, being a little bit
more picky, where we want to go, where we want
to call home next the next two years, a year,
whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But a contender is number one on the list right now.
End quote.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Broncos ended their own playoff drought without Simmons last years.
Justin said there's no bad blood after he was cut loose,
but it doesn't seem likely that a reunion is in place.
As he is looking to end his current employment search.
I will tell you Justin Simmons is not coming back
to Denver. But as far as the rest of that goes,
I mean he's looking for a contender. That's a guy
whose career has been great but missing that that playoff
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and that playoff success. You know, to add to it,
what do we think of Justin Simmons looking for a
contender and who do you think they could be?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, yeah, this.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Stage of his career, obviously looking for a contender because
you want to have an opportunity to say that you
played for the right to go to a championship, a
hoist up that trophy. Looking around the league at this time,
I mean it's kind of difficult because teams have already
sold up their rosters, the lack of change come training camp.
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You know, guys don't perform well, Guys get injured. But
there is a contender that I think would be a
nice fit for Justin.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Let's see if we have the same one. I've got
to pulled up on the screen right.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
Now, I say, let's go Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh okay, I went with Washington Commanders. Oh okay, Yeah,
I went with to the Washington Commanders. Kwan Martin is
the free safety there. Guy they drafted the second round
a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
He's okay.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
But you know, Justin Simmons in that defense, I think
would would be good Buffalo. He would fit in that
defense for sure. Do they have the money? That would
be my that would be more.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Here's the thing, the money would work itself out because
if you want to play, you want to play with
the contender, You're willing to take what's on the table.
And at this point, do you got to take whatever
they're gonna they're willing to give you maybe a one
year deal, possibly one year deal.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And it may be two million dollars. Yeah, that's good money.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, I don't I mean, I don't know if Justin's
playing for two million, but I get you still want
to play. That's and that is the question though that
Buffalo has right now? Are Cole Bishop, Taylor Rapp and
Tomorrow Hamblin uh in kind of that rotation. Justin obviously
I think would play displaced excuse me, uh one or both?
I mean I think you'd you're.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Going to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, I mean that defense looks like it's going to
be in the playoffs. You got Rousseau, de Kwon Jones
and Oliver Joey Bos up front, mat Mlonald's back, that
the heart and soul that linebacker, and of course they
got the drafted Max Harrison, they got Tarron Johnson and
then Christian Benneford is at the corner. It's a good defense,
and of course we know what the offense can do
there in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
If he could get I think that's a good fit.
I do. I think they could be a good fit
for him too.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Brandon Aiyuk likely starts the season on the pop, but
the Niners haven't ruled out that he could be there
for week one. He is unable to perform as he
continues to recover from knee surgery.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Sign let him if he is on the pup at
least the first four games. The Niners have not ruled.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Out not putting him on that they will likely pay
it safe after he tore the ecl at mcl a
is right knee back on October twentieth of last year.
Coach Kyle Shanahan has already said that Ayuk will start
training camp on the active pump. He played seven games
last season twenty five catches, three seventy four yards, no touchdowns,
all career lows, and signed that big deal. What do
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we think about Brandon Ayuk potentially started the season on
the pup, but even though he signed that deal with
the Niners, is he ever going to play any significant
amount of time on it?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Really don't know.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
I mean, his best thing is worry about getting healthy
first and then going from there. But you look at
the forty nine ers offense. One of your big play
guys no longer there, Deego Sammon, He's now with Adam
Peters with the Washington Commanders. So you have a bunch
of guys at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And let's be.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
Transparent, like Brandon Nyuk when he was hurt, even though
Debo got the bulk of those type of play as
far as versatility.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Brand n I was that guy.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
He was mister reliable and right now the forty nine
ers need him to come back healthy.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So the ideas don't push it.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Let him take his time, because if you don't have
this guy, he's gonnamight make life really interesting for Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
But more importantly brought purty.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, and now you got party signed to that big deal,
your cap flexibility is done, you know. I mean even
though you signed Ayuk to that deal. Once you're after
this season, you're sort of out from under the biggest
portion of it and you can kind of move on
and maneuver some things. Obviously, they drafted with Ricky pearsall previously.
He figures to have a big part. Georgs Kettle figures
to have a big part this season. It'll be interesting
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to see what they do. Is they need to reload
the receiver room there in San Francisco. Three former Jaguars
executive Amid Ptel's legal problems are not over.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Even after pleading guilty to federal charges.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Ptel, serving a six and a half year sentence, has
been charged with six counts of grand theft under Florida
law after he embezzled more than twenty two million dollars
from the Jaguars. There's no federal law against theft, it's
a state law issue. Federal sentence arose from a guilty
plea to wire fraud and an illegal monetary transaction, so
now he faces additional jail time for the six accounts
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under Florida law for stealing the money that he stole
from the Jacks. His lawyer has blamed the embezzlement on
a gambling addiction, and Betel has sued Fan Duel and
others for quote actively and intentionally targeting and praying on
him with incentives, credits, and gifts to create, nurture, expedite,
and or exacerbate his addiction, possible outcome that could ultimately
hit rock Bottom. He's six and a half year federal
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prison term and more coming for the theft. Under floor
a law rock Bottom could end up being another level
or too lower.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Co Patel, Come on, doll, it's like a crick hid yeah,
you know, or the dealer he kept selling me the crime.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yes, like no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Everyone knows you know the pros and cons of gambling.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yes, I mean you took a risk. You you did what.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
You did with the Jags, taking advantage and baidled the
money twenty two to the tune of twenty two million dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It wasn't all gambling.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I mean you were spending money on private jets, roll
Ex's cars, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
It wasn't gambling. You were stealing money, dude, exactly.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
So man, where I come from. In this case, it's
a pop called the Kettle Black.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Can't do that, can't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
He'sd be like that guy back in the was it
the seventies, franc oh.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I wish I could remever his name.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
He he was this guy. He was connected with the
mob back in the back in the seventies. His name
was Frank South and I can't remember the last name
to save my life. He got out on three hundred
and seventy five thousand dollars bail. He went to a
security a safety deposit box, took twenty million out of it,
and bounced. No one ever saw him again, went and
got his mistress, bounced with the twenty million whatever saw again.
That's smart, just saying.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
They said bail of three hundred and seenty five thousand.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Back then there was a ton of money, right, And
he's like, there's no way he's leaving this three seventy five.
He's like, b I got twenty million of the safety
deposit box.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I've seen that story. They still did it.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Never forget, never found Tuesday, twenty million disappeared. I'm just
saying I could disappear.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
With a lot less.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yes, gambling problem caller ticks one eight hundred dembler she
talks about it earlier.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Najie Harris suffered a superficial eye injury at a fireworks accident.
Rumor started back on Sunday, but they got corroborated today.
Charges running back Najee Harris injured during a fireworks accident
on the fourth of July weekend. His agent, Doug Hendrickson
said that quote Nase was president at a Fourth of
July event. A fireworks mishappen resulted in injuries to several attendees.
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Now Jesus dating superficial eye injury, but it's fully expected
to be ready for the upcoming season. The Chargers have
not responded to request for comment on the matter. Harris
reports for training camp next week in advance of the
July thirty first Hall of Fame game. That's right, guys,
we are twenty one days away, three weeks to the
day away from some NFL football action. Grant Smith couldn't
be more excited back there. Harris will, along with other players,
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how to go full physical. Obviously, before that, rumors persisted
all weekend until the report came out from CAM In
the of the San Jose Mercury News regarding the fact
that Harris had indeed that injured on July fifth and Antioch, California.
Dan's report had no specifics to the expent or severity
of the injury. You reported that you received treatment at
John Your Hospital and conquered later at Stanford Hospital.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Multiple other people were injured during the incident.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Original rumors were that Harris had lost an eye, but
official word is it's just superficial and he's going to
be fine. Harris, a first round pick of the Steelers
in twenty twenty one, side a one year deal with
the Chargers in March, and this rest for more than
a thousand in each of his four or NFL seasons.
Do we think this puts a detrimental all in the Chargers?
Speaker 7 (26:07):
You know, only live games would tell, like if they're
constantly because if the story doesn't list which I suffered
the superficial wound right, so they say is the right eye?
If they continue to run to the left.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'm just saying that's that's how we would know.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Then from the Fins the standpoint, you utilize it to
your advantage, but let this be a lesson man. You
gotta be careful with fireworks and make sure you always
know who's using what fireworks and what type are they.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You think NFL team is going to start putting contract
closes in there about fireworks, given it's like the way
they did with like the motorcycle.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I would I would get skiing, yeah, things like.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But they're like, you know, miniature dynamite.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
It's cool. Yes, five.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I've got a couple of stories here, but kind of
the minutia in the NFL, the long weighted sky Dance
paramount merger suddenly underlayed the NFL has a decision to
make Under its contract with CBS, the league can pull
the plug on the deal after a change and control
of the company. Mister Rodgergnell was asked about that possibility
during an appearance on CNBC and sayd quote, We've had
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a long relationship with CBS for decades.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
We have a relationship outside of that with Skydance.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
So I don't anticipate that something that we'll see, but
we have a two year period to make that decision.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I don't see it happening, but we have that option
that something will take a look at.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
The CBS relationship was paused from nineteen ninety four through
nineteen ninety seven, when Fox took the NFC package per
CBS and CBS took the AFC.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Package from NBC.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
CBS held a Sunday Afternoon package, which predominantly features.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
AFC game since nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
The current broadcast deals run through twenty thirty three, although
the league has an option to pull the plug on
all contracts after the twenty twenty nine season, and we'll
do so.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I'll just tell you now, spoil this prize.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Given the right spees recently paid for the NBA, it's
widely expected that, of course, they will exit the existing deals.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Early on Monday, John A.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Round reported the league could extend all of the deals
before twenty twenty nine, using the weaver of its ability
to scrap deals to secure a sweetener three twenty thirty
four or twenty thirty five. But it's two separate issues.
One put the CBS contract out to bid. Two extend
all deals with current partners before putting contracts out to bid,
And that doesn't make sense. So in the end, the
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NFL hasn't opt out as it were with CBS, because
it's changing ownership right their merging with guidance.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It's changing ownership, so.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
They have in their contract to close knowing how much
the NFL values money and how much more money they
could get. Do we think in the next two years
they'll pull out from CBS and shop shop the deal.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Yeah, this that would happen because it's all about leverage
and negotiation. But before that, just think about it. The
Josh Allen hasn't deal with guide ends, and so does
Jerry Jones as far as a docu series on I
Guess Him and the Cowboys. So keeping everything within perspective,
the league is only going to move when they know
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is though that they've already run out the clock with
one organization moving to jump to another. But until then,
right now, if money proves to be lucrative for them,
they're going to stay in this new six This is the.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
One to be wanting to get to. This Lloyd Howell situation,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, as I see you hanging your head there, Nick,
storm clouds are gathering pretty quickly for NFLPA executive director
Lloyd Howell. People in and around the NFL or monitoring
the situation pretty close. The question is whether Howell will
be making a quick exit with the NFLPA Executive Committee
appointing an interim executive director pending a full blown selection process.
The nfl PA constitution contemplates the removal of an executive
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at two thirds of player reps present at a meeting
featuring a corum vote for his ouster. It's possible that
he'll walk away from.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
It as it is. Howell was hired in June of
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
He's currently facing an outside investigation from the Wilmer Hale
law firm regarding his activities on the job, including multiple
questions and or scandals. More recently, ESPN reported he's working
part time consultant with a private equity firm that's been
approved to purchase minority interest in NFL teams, which is
a massive conflict of interest.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
You know, if we still cared about.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Those things, were also have the issue of him and
the confidentiality agreement, you know, siting off on that. And
then of course he owns, in conjunction with the director
of the Baseball Players Association, the branding rights for the
money that they put together for the co branding thing.
(30:33):
And to me on the outside looking at it, Nick,
you're much more involved in the players association obviously, but
for the outside look at it.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
This looks corrupt as hell.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
It does, and even if Lloyer is pushed out, the
damage is already done because now it leaves a bad
taste in the player's mouth whether they feel as though
they can trust leadership within the NFL PA, because you
had the collusion situation. He's like, well, then PA and Lord,
how had this information?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
They could have put out there.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You side a confidentiality agreement.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Right, but they didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
And it's like, okay, well, then you find out that
there's a conflict of interest because he is working with
another group that is working with the NFL. It's like,
whoa wah, wha, wha whah. How are we negotiating this
on two front? So this this is bad. Guys have
constantly called me asking me what the hell is going on,
and I'm like, man, I don't know, but once again,
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this leaves a bad taste in the player's mouths.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, this is one that it's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I've got a bunch of text people asking me to explain,
like I don't understand how you can do this, and
I'm like, bro, you need to talk to your rep
first of all. But this is yeah, this definitely looks
like a case where Lloyd Howell is doing his best
to cover for the league instead of the players who
he's supposed to be beholden to.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Well, because he's trying to hold make sure.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
That this this this deal with this outside company goes through.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But you're telling you I got a conflict of interest.
One teams, one team, but yeah, the only team that
seems to matter is Jott Howell's team.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, so wouldn't be surprised if he gets bounced. We'll
steep Broncos country night. We gotta hit a break.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
We'll be back.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Kids.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
If you're listening right now, turn the Radio'll put your
uncle Ben and talk to you real quick.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
That's lame as hell.
Thank you to CBS's Road Being for joining us in
the last segment. Also for Hall of Fame Steve Atwater
for talking about black T shirts and mayonnaise for an hour.
If you missed any part of that, you don't got
a Broncos Country Tonight. That last podcast for rooms the
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
iHeart Radio app where you can get all.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Of our conversations about maynaise and black T shirts. Don't
forget the dogs.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Oh yeah, we liked the dogs too.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
The Dinner Bell we hit the supper Verse Dinner. Summer
Versus Dinner covered a lot of ground with Steve. We
really did, I think we for the culture. I mean honestly,
we really. Yes, Yes, that's why this is uh yeah,
that's what we do.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
When you hit the deat of summer and there's nothing
to talk about it and the Rocky suck out loud
like there's there's just nothing to there's you know, sometimes
we got to talk about this stuff, guys, we do.
You know, there's there's not a whole lot of news
that said there was actually uh some news and I
do want to get into this. Deon Sanders came out
and talked to coach brom talked a little bit about
the things he wants to see happen in college football.
(00:58):
There's some overlap with some little been banging the table
for so, without further ado, here's a coach prime talking
about things you want to see happen in college football.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
What I would change in college football?
Speaker 6 (01:08):
It has to be like it has to be, and
they're trying to implement it's got to be a salary
cap on this stuff, because this stuff is going crazy
and nobody know where it's going to land, where it's
going to end, and you have so many different doors.
It's like I would see a player that said he
got an offer from another school, and I'm trying to
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figure out why you guys haven't investigated, and how is
that possible when the guy's not in the portal?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
How's that? Now that was one of my players, you
guys would be all over it.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
I'm trying to figure out, how can somebody say you
got a five million dollar offer? How and the kid
is not in the portal? So I think we need
to be up right and upstanding. Secondly, I like the
professional rules to be implemented in college they're getting ready
to be pros. So let's go two feet in, you know,
on the catches. Let's mark the file if fast interference.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Let's do the same thing the pro game is.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Let's reduce it to college and let's do something about
the uniforms.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
We got guys out there in back of shorts.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
That makes me sick because I'm a I'm a football guy,
like I played this game at a high level, and
I have so much respect for this game. And how
can we allow guys out there in back of shorts,
no knee pads, know nothing, literally pants up on under
their thighs and that's cool. So I think that should
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be a fine implemented for that stuff. And let's let's
have more respect for this tremendous game.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Now.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I could go all day when you talk about making
the changes.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
But we have a pretty good game, a darn good game,
one of the best games I think in sports. That's
why we attract so many people, especially to Colorado Buffaloes.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
We attract so many eyeballs.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
You want to see us win, you want to see
us lose, but you want to see us But I
wish we could implement some of those things, just just
three off the top.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Of my head.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
You know what it's there was a lot to unpack
there where coach prim has said. So I'll start with
the first thing first. When you think about the nil money,
a lot of it's coming in. I still think that
college players deserve to be paid based on what institutions
may offer their production, but there needs to be a.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Cap of some sort.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
I was never a fan of a guy agreeing to
go to the institution there is financial compensation and then
all of a sudden, you know, things don't go the
way that the player wants, and now he is looking
to jump into the portal.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
To me, the idea is.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
That if you are entering into this contract with an
institution and there's a certain dollar value associated with it,
you should be obligated along with the institution to I
guess solidify that agreement, so you should not be able
to jump. If so, then there should be compensation from
the team for the team that you're leaving. Well, and
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you're going to another team, they should give you some
kind of conversation for that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I hate the idea of one year deals on EDIL
like gear to your deals. I hated the idea of
your your scholarships I hated that, even though Saban was
one of the guys that pushed that back in the day.
Like to me, it's you offer a four year scholarship
and that's, you know, is what it is. I'm antiquated
with what comes out. I don't care about the BikeE
shorts thing like, I don't care about that. But yeah,
there needs to be a salary cap on the nil.
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Are you going to have to have tears levels as
it were. You're gonna have to realign conferences and get
rid of them altogether and start having salary floor, salary
ceiling things for tournaments because teams just aren't going to
be able to compete. There are schools that are just
not able to compete with the Ohio States and Alabamas
and Georgia's and LSU's and you.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Know, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
There are you're just not you know, you can't. There
are schools out there that it does not have the ability.
Colorado State is never going to be able to afford
to spend twelve million dollars a season on one quarterback
like Michigan did.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
So what do you say to those schools who say,
when you think about the baseball. Baseball doesn't really have
like a salary cap.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I think a salary cap.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
If you want to make your sport more competitive, you
got to create parody. And the way you create parodi
has put everybody on equal footing. This is the maximumount
of money you could spend.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Even the NBA has been moving and moving and moving
towards a salary cap. They've got this convoluted aprons and
luxury tax nonsense that at the next CBA they just
need to get rid of and put a salary cap
on it be done with it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
But that's the only way that the end. The NFL
has got it right.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
They've got it figured out, and everybody should be trying
to copy them.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
That's what you should be doing.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
There.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That by far the most popular sport, and there's a
reason they're the most popular sport is because on.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Any given day, anybody can win it.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
But this is the one thing that every sport is
looking to do to differentiate themselves in some way from
other sports.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
When you think about NFL.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Football, CFL, full foall, it's football, but the rules are different.
Less men, wider fields. Things are like that because these
professional leagues they are competing for your dollars, so they
have to give you something. They just can't give you
a regular hot dog. Now we got to Now, if
they give you Ben has given you a hot dog,
breat wants to give you a hot dog with Skyline
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chili with relish and mustard on it. Something to make
it different to where you want their product. But I
do agree with Prime when it comes to changing the
rules to be similar to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And here's what I mean.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
We know about the two foot rule in the NFL,
and some guys have issues adjusting to that when they
first come into the league. Well, the other thing is
when you when you look at the kickoff, the kickoff
has changed, and we can have another discussion as to
why the NFL decided to change that rule after so
many years. But now, to me, you can start that
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earlier from pop Water to high school and the pros
and get those kids acclimated so once they get to
the NFL, they have an opportunity to actually earn a
job because they are now familiar with the rules.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, I'm fine with college keeping the rules the way
they are. I'm fine with the one foot rule in college.
I'm fine with wider hashes in college You're right, the
kickoff probably does need to change so that it mirrors
what's at the top of the game. But I'm fine
with the little quirks that make things different across that
all that kind of stuff. I think you think the
only thing is the NIL money has changed and the
halves are becoming increasingly the halves. You don't have a
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chance anymore for a team to play spoiler even make
the tournament really if you're not spending obscene amounts of money.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
So essentially, the NL is killing the idea of the underdog, and.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
The NIL is killing the competitive balance. If you're a
school that has a ton of money, you're going to
be competitive. And if they don't, yeah, and if you don't,
you're not just period, And is that what we want?
Is that what we want college football to be? I mean,
I'm all for everybody get in the bag in an
era where you know, I'm not trying to take anybody's
money away. What I'm trying to say is that if
you want to keep the sport the way it is,
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you're either going to have to realign into an almost
European style soccer regulation model. The base the based on
based on salary spent you know at each level, or
are are you know, are you just going to basically
have a bunch of people, a bunch of schools. You're
gonna have twenty twenty five schools that are really in
the in it every year and the rest of you
guys are not, and they're never gonna be so.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
With conference real alignment, like we've seen over the past
couple of years, we've seen the dissolvement of the PAC
twelve even though they're trying to get other teams in it.
But then a lot of the PAC twelve teams are
now joining, you know, the Big ten. And when you
look at the time change the travel that they actually have,
and when what's.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That doing to the athletes?
Speaker 7 (08:49):
No one's considering that because it's all about the dollar,
the TV dollars.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's all about the dollar, because.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You have to have the money to pay the guys
to come win games. And that's the end result is
you got to win games. And if you don't win games,
you're not going to be in it. And if you're
not in it, what's the point? Balls don't matter anymore.
And I knew this was going to happen when they
decided to do a championship like that.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You could have made the balls matter.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You could have made each game in the playoff a
bowl game, a different you know, one of the bowl
games that rotated them through. You could have done that.
But you know, cats out of the back for that.
Bowl games don't matter anymore, so all.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Them are they trying to or this is an example
of course correction because you get rid of the bcs
if you get to college football playoffs and then you
only have a certain amount of teams and then now,
guess what we're gonna have what eight twelve this year,
sixteen something like.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
That, something like that.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
And once again, to me, you think that you're making
it better, but you're actually making it worse at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, it should be an eight team playoff, that's what
That was the perfect number. And back then you had
the five conference Power five. Now you've got Power four.
You know, the champions from each of those are four
large bids, you know, and go from there. And I
mean that that's the perfect number of the perfect balance.
You could have used bowl games as the you know,
the game, so there's no home field advantage, you know,
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by the way it corporate s There are plenty of
ways to do this and continue to monetize that they don't.
But at the end of the day, college football now
is who has the money.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
And you can look.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You can look at the amount of money that is
spent per team and the wins that they get off
that money, and I promise you it is a direct correlation.
Seem like the problem, the worst problem is this is
the downtrace problem.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Is that if a school gets.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
A star player, recruits and gets and develops a star player,
they're gonna have them for one season because then the
school with the money's gonna come and say, come play
for us, come win a championship, and oh, by the way,
I'm gonna buy you. I'm gonna pay you more than
you can make it.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Okay, So if that's kind of where the direction we're
going in kind of where we are right now. And
this is why I'm a fan of saying, okay, well,
if you sign player A and we say, well, we're
doing a two year contract and in that time period
someone offers you more money to leave, once again, we
should be.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Well say that for that.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Almost like in the NFL, you get those compensatory picks.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
But for college football.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
It's just like, Okay, well we want that in a
form of revenue, so now we can go out and
use that revenue that the school that you're going to
you're leaving from, they can now pay us, and we
can go out there and better our roster with that money.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
To me, I don't think things will ever be.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
As balanced as you want it to be, but to
me that that's kind of the best way to do it,
opposed to developing a player and your team and your
organization being somewhat of a farm league for everyone else
to come and pick your players and pay them absorbed
amount of money and you left there.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
What holding the bag?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's exactly it. And then the problem with that reflection
that is baseball. The Kansas City Royals were that team
for a long time, a mid market baseball team, small
market baseball team that could not afford. They would get
great players, they develop them, they bring them up, and
then what happens. So when I was signed free agency
hits and the Yankee like, we'll offer you twenty times
what the Royals will offer you to play it because
we because I got some money, and what are you
(12:05):
doing you, me and Grant all three. I'm gonna go
play in New York. I'll shave the beard and so like.
That's because that used to be a thing. Now I
think you can mustache. I don't even think can you
can you do the I guess you could do.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
The mustache.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Beard.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, we'll probably not on this lethal. You have to
tone it down a.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Little bit more Boston Red.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Right, But you get the idea. That's why baseball sucks
so bad.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It's because you know, there's four teams in baseball and
it's gonna be one of those four that wins it.
And it used to be sort of that way in basketball.
Now you're getting a little bit more parody. Is they've
got the luxury tax and you're seeing teams that draft
and develop well like Okay, see in Indiana, starts start
to flourish because they could keep their own because of
those luxury taxes. That's the reason that you've seen teams
like Kansas City again, the same market. We were just
(12:54):
talking about the Royals and baseball, but but Kansas City's
proven that if there's a salary cap in the sport,
then they can and the Chiefs have been able to
do that once, say, identified the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
So that's sort of the thing.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Like, if you're going to create a sport that has
the idea that everybody can be competitive, if you've got
to have a cap on salary or else, the people
that have the most money are just going to outspend
you and they're gonna win.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
But sports has definitely shown us that that is that's.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Not the case.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Just looking in the NBA, you have big market team,
small market teams, and we would just I guess I
don't know about you, but we were just entertained with
the Pacers and OKAC, two teams that are viewed as
fly over cities.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Right.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Their teams have been competitive over the years, but those
are not places where players are going like, oh man,
when I've become a free agent, man, I can't wait
to go to OKAC.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
It's not that way.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
It's now becoming that way in Denver has slowly become
that way based on the Nuggets and the way they played,
but more importantly having a Kola Jokic. Once Nicola Jokice
cause of a career, the Nuggets might go back to
those dark ages where it was before, where it's difficult
to get players to come here unless you're going to
(14:07):
pay them an observed amount of money.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
But now you run into salary cap issues.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Well yeah, and that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Like now, since the NBA has put a pseudo de
facto salary cap, these luxury thresholds have basically made it
a soft cap. And the next CBA they'll they'll put
a salary cap in and it'll be called that. But
as it sits right now, that's why you're seeing Indiana
and Okase able to do that. If there was no
salary cap, the Lakers would absolutely be ripping off and
get these players. The Clippers would absolutely be going to
(14:34):
get in these The wealthy teams in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Would have all these players.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
They'd be getting the shot Gildes, Alexander leave Okac come
out for the bright lights of a big city and oh,
by the way, we could pay you four times.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
With the paying his what would happened in that case?
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Then every team would have that those deep pockets and
we would see every year or two years, Lebron James
joining those teams because he wants to win another chip.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Right, that's exactly what we would see.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I mean that it is, I mean, you know, there's
max contracts that you get the CARA the max contract
is caps so you kind of stay where you are
because you already know that you're getting a max contract
and they can offer you more money. The NBA incentivizes
for them for the best players. But yeah, I mean,
at the end of the day, money's pretty much what
drives just about everything.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And it does.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I mean, you think about it. If it was uh,
let's put it in terms that you can understand. If
it was a different radio station in town it was saying, hey,
we're going to offer you four times what you're making
right there, Nick Ferguson's you know, it's been real, okay, away,
I'm just saying, you know, you get to see from
paper I'm rich.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You know it's I am about this.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
It's like it's it's that's what it is, and so
you have to That's it's the thing now, just that
artificially depressed player salaries.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yes it does.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Is it unfair to players because it caps out what
a player can make?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yes, it does.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
But at the same time, it's the only way that
you can keep a sport competitive and in that regard,
otherwise the wealthy teams just squeeze out the other guy.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
And this is this is the same thing that would
happen or is happening in college college football.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
And the way that you somewhat try to balance it
is you implement a selar cat. But now you answer
into another. I guess stratus feared that college football, though,
doesn't want to end up in and a lot of
businesses that don't want anyway. And that means unions, right,
because if you have a union, that means there's a
potential of guess what, a strike and they don't want that.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, and they and that that's the worst part about that.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But you know they just collected bargaining for both those
who are coming up soon, we'll see, we'll come back.
We got an NFL six back here, ka, let's get
to an NFL six pack.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It's time for the NFL six path.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I'm gonna take a lot of.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Beer, insight and insight information you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
The top six NFL headline.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
What for a Brontos safety Justin Simmons.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Obviously, he's been an All Pro and a Pro Bowler
over the course of his nine year NFL career, but
he's never appeared a playoff.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Game and changing that is the top thing on.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
His mind as he looks for a place to play
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Reports back in June.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Indicated the Panthers were interested, but no signing was eminent.
It might not come together if Simmons continues to prioritize
the chance to get the postseason. Justin sign with the
Falcons last year after his eight year run with the
Broncos came to an end. Justin said he's taking his
time before signing or anywhere else because he wants to make.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Sure that the team is that a position to succeed.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Talking with the Denver Post, he said, quote, I think
Atlanta I would still pick ten times out of ten
if I was in the spot last year, but in
terms of where I'm at now, being a little bit
more picky, where we want to go, where we want
to call home next the next two years, a year,
whatever that is.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But a contender is number one on the list right now.
End quote.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Broncos ended their own playoff drought without Simmons last years.
Justin said there's no bad blood after he was cut loose,
but it doesn't seem likely that a reunion is in place.
As he is looking to end his current employment search.
I will tell you Justin Simmons is not coming back
to Denver. But as far as the rest of that goes,
I mean he's looking for a contender. That's a guy
whose career has been great but missing that that playoff
(18:06):
and that playoff success. You know, to add to it,
what do we think of Justin Simmons looking for a
contender and who do you think they could be?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, yeah, this.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Stage of his career, obviously looking for a contender because
you want to have an opportunity to say that you
played for the right to go to a championship, a
hoist up that trophy. Looking around the league at this time,
I mean it's kind of difficult because teams have already
sold up their rosters, the lack of change come training camp.
(18:34):
You know, guys don't perform well, Guys get injured. But
there is a contender that I think would be a
nice fit for Justin.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Let's see if we have the same one. I've got
to pulled up on the screen right.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
Now, I say, let's go Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh okay, I went with Washington Commanders. Oh okay, Yeah,
I went with to the Washington Commanders. Kwan Martin is
the free safety there. Guy they drafted the second round
a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
He's okay.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
But you know, Justin Simmons in that defense, I think
would would be good Buffalo. He would fit in that
defense for sure. Do they have the money? That would
be my that would be more.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Here's the thing, the money would work itself out because
if you want to play, you want to play with
the contender, You're willing to take what's on the table.
And at this point, do you got to take whatever
they're gonna they're willing to give you maybe a one
year deal, possibly one year deal.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And it may be two million dollars. Yeah, that's good money.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, I don't I mean, I don't know if Justin's
playing for two million, but I get you still want
to play. That's and that is the question though that
Buffalo has right now? Are Cole Bishop, Taylor Rapp and
Tomorrow Hamblin uh in kind of that rotation. Justin obviously
I think would play displaced excuse me, uh one or both?
I mean I think you'd you're.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Going to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, I mean that defense looks like it's going to
be in the playoffs. You got Rousseau, de Kwon Jones
and Oliver Joey Bos up front, mat Mlonald's back, that
the heart and soul that linebacker, and of course they
got the drafted Max Harrison, they got Tarron Johnson and
then Christian Benneford is at the corner. It's a good defense,
and of course we know what the offense can do
there in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
If he could get I think that's a good fit.
I do. I think they could be a good fit
for him too.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Brandon Aiyuk likely starts the season on the pop, but
the Niners haven't ruled out that he could be there
for week one. He is unable to perform as he
continues to recover from knee surgery.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Sign let him if he is on the pup at
least the first four games. The Niners have not ruled.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Out not putting him on that they will likely pay
it safe after he tore the ecl at mcl a
is right knee back on October twentieth of last year.
Coach Kyle Shanahan has already said that Ayuk will start
training camp on the active pump. He played seven games
last season twenty five catches, three seventy four yards, no touchdowns,
all career lows, and signed that big deal. What do
(20:52):
we think about Brandon Ayuk potentially started the season on
the pup, but even though he signed that deal with
the Niners, is he ever going to play any significant
amount of time on it?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Really don't know.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
I mean, his best thing is worry about getting healthy
first and then going from there. But you look at
the forty nine ers offense. One of your big play
guys no longer there, Deego Sammon, He's now with Adam
Peters with the Washington Commanders. So you have a bunch
of guys at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And let's be.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
Transparent, like Brandon Nyuk when he was hurt, even though
Debo got the bulk of those type of play as
far as versatility.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Brand n I was that guy.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
He was mister reliable and right now the forty nine
ers need him to come back healthy.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So the ideas don't push it.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Let him take his time, because if you don't have
this guy, he's gonnamight make life really interesting for Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
But more importantly brought purty.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, and now you got party signed to that big deal,
your cap flexibility is done, you know. I mean even
though you signed Ayuk to that deal. Once you're after
this season, you're sort of out from under the biggest
portion of it and you can kind of move on
and maneuver some things. Obviously, they drafted with Ricky pearsall previously.
He figures to have a big part. Georgs Kettle figures
to have a big part this season. It'll be interesting
(22:09):
to see what they do. Is they need to reload
the receiver room there in San Francisco. Three former Jaguars
executive Amid Ptel's legal problems are not over.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Even after pleading guilty to federal charges.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Ptel, serving a six and a half year sentence, has
been charged with six counts of grand theft under Florida
law after he embezzled more than twenty two million dollars
from the Jaguars. There's no federal law against theft, it's
a state law issue. Federal sentence arose from a guilty
plea to wire fraud and an illegal monetary transaction, so
now he faces additional jail time for the six accounts
(22:41):
under Florida law for stealing the money that he stole
from the Jacks. His lawyer has blamed the embezzlement on
a gambling addiction, and Betel has sued Fan Duel and
others for quote actively and intentionally targeting and praying on
him with incentives, credits, and gifts to create, nurture, expedite,
and or exacerbate his addiction, possible outcome that could ultimately
hit rock Bottom. He's six and a half year federal
(23:04):
prison term and more coming for the theft. Under floor
a law rock Bottom could end up being another level
or too lower.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Co Patel, Come on, doll, it's like a crick hid yeah,
you know, or the dealer he kept selling me the crime.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yes, like no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Everyone knows you know the pros and cons of gambling.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yes, I mean you took a risk. You you did what.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
You did with the Jags, taking advantage and baidled the
money twenty two to the tune of twenty two million dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It wasn't all gambling.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I mean you were spending money on private jets, roll
Ex's cars, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
It wasn't gambling. You were stealing money, dude, exactly.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
So man, where I come from. In this case, it's
a pop called the Kettle Black.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Can't do that, can't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
He'sd be like that guy back in the was it
the seventies, franc oh.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I wish I could remever his name.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
He he was this guy. He was connected with the
mob back in the back in the seventies. His name
was Frank South and I can't remember the last name
to save my life. He got out on three hundred
and seventy five thousand dollars bail. He went to a
security a safety deposit box, took twenty million out of it,
and bounced. No one ever saw him again, went and
got his mistress, bounced with the twenty million whatever saw again.
That's smart, just saying.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
They said bail of three hundred and seenty five thousand.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Back then there was a ton of money, right, And
he's like, there's no way he's leaving this three seventy five.
He's like, b I got twenty million of the safety
deposit box.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I've seen that story. They still did it.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Never forget, never found Tuesday, twenty million disappeared. I'm just
saying I could disappear.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
With a lot less.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yes, gambling problem caller ticks one eight hundred dembler she
talks about it earlier.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Najie Harris suffered a superficial eye injury at a fireworks accident.
Rumor started back on Sunday, but they got corroborated today.
Charges running back Najee Harris injured during a fireworks accident
on the fourth of July weekend. His agent, Doug Hendrickson
said that quote Nase was president at a Fourth of
July event. A fireworks mishappen resulted in injuries to several attendees.
(25:02):
Now Jesus dating superficial eye injury, but it's fully expected
to be ready for the upcoming season. The Chargers have
not responded to request for comment on the matter. Harris
reports for training camp next week in advance of the
July thirty first Hall of Fame game. That's right, guys,
we are twenty one days away, three weeks to the
day away from some NFL football action. Grant Smith couldn't
be more excited back there. Harris will, along with other players,
(25:24):
how to go full physical. Obviously, before that, rumors persisted
all weekend until the report came out from CAM In
the of the San Jose Mercury News regarding the fact
that Harris had indeed that injured on July fifth and Antioch, California.
Dan's report had no specifics to the expent or severity
of the injury. You reported that you received treatment at
John Your Hospital and conquered later at Stanford Hospital.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Multiple other people were injured during the incident.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Original rumors were that Harris had lost an eye, but
official word is it's just superficial and he's going to
be fine. Harris, a first round pick of the Steelers
in twenty twenty one, side a one year deal with
the Chargers in March, and this rest for more than
a thousand in each of his four or NFL seasons.
Do we think this puts a detrimental all in the Chargers?
Speaker 7 (26:07):
You know, only live games would tell, like if they're
constantly because if the story doesn't list which I suffered
the superficial wound right, so they say is the right eye?
If they continue to run to the left.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'm just saying that's that's how we would know.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Then from the Fins the standpoint, you utilize it to
your advantage, but let this be a lesson man. You
gotta be careful with fireworks and make sure you always
know who's using what fireworks and what type are they.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You think NFL team is going to start putting contract
closes in there about fireworks, given it's like the way
they did with like the motorcycle.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I would I would get skiing, yeah, things like.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But they're like, you know, miniature dynamite.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
It's cool. Yes, five.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I've got a couple of stories here, but kind of
the minutia in the NFL, the long weighted sky Dance
paramount merger suddenly underlayed the NFL has a decision to
make Under its contract with CBS, the league can pull
the plug on the deal after a change and control
of the company. Mister Rodgergnell was asked about that possibility
during an appearance on CNBC and sayd quote, We've had
(27:15):
a long relationship with CBS for decades.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
We have a relationship outside of that with Skydance.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
So I don't anticipate that something that we'll see, but
we have a two year period to make that decision.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I don't see it happening, but we have that option
that something will take a look at.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
The CBS relationship was paused from nineteen ninety four through
nineteen ninety seven, when Fox took the NFC package per
CBS and CBS took the AFC.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Package from NBC.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
CBS held a Sunday Afternoon package, which predominantly features.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
AFC game since nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
The current broadcast deals run through twenty thirty three, although
the league has an option to pull the plug on
all contracts after the twenty twenty nine season, and we'll
do so.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I'll just tell you now, spoil this prize.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Given the right spees recently paid for the NBA, it's
widely expected that, of course, they will exit the existing deals.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Early on Monday, John A.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Round reported the league could extend all of the deals
before twenty twenty nine, using the weaver of its ability
to scrap deals to secure a sweetener three twenty thirty
four or twenty thirty five. But it's two separate issues.
One put the CBS contract out to bid. Two extend
all deals with current partners before putting contracts out to bid,
And that doesn't make sense. So in the end, the
(28:21):
NFL hasn't opt out as it were with CBS, because
it's changing ownership right their merging with guidance.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It's changing ownership, so.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
They have in their contract to close knowing how much
the NFL values money and how much more money they
could get. Do we think in the next two years
they'll pull out from CBS and shop shop the deal.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Yeah, this that would happen because it's all about leverage
and negotiation. But before that, just think about it. The
Josh Allen hasn't deal with guide ends, and so does
Jerry Jones as far as a docu series on I
Guess Him and the Cowboys. So keeping everything within perspective,
the league is only going to move when they know
(29:00):
is though that they've already run out the clock with
one organization moving to jump to another. But until then,
right now, if money proves to be lucrative for them,
they're going to stay in this new six This is the.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
One to be wanting to get to. This Lloyd Howell situation,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, as I see you hanging your head there, Nick,
storm clouds are gathering pretty quickly for NFLPA executive director
Lloyd Howell. People in and around the NFL or monitoring
the situation pretty close. The question is whether Howell will
be making a quick exit with the NFLPA Executive Committee
appointing an interim executive director pending a full blown selection process.
The nfl PA constitution contemplates the removal of an executive
(29:41):
at two thirds of player reps present at a meeting
featuring a corum vote for his ouster. It's possible that
he'll walk away from.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
It as it is. Howell was hired in June of
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
He's currently facing an outside investigation from the Wilmer Hale
law firm regarding his activities on the job, including multiple
questions and or scandals. More recently, ESPN reported he's working
part time consultant with a private equity firm that's been
approved to purchase minority interest in NFL teams, which is
a massive conflict of interest.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
You know, if we still cared about.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Those things, were also have the issue of him and
the confidentiality agreement, you know, siting off on that. And
then of course he owns, in conjunction with the director
of the Baseball Players Association, the branding rights for the
money that they put together for the co branding thing.
(30:33):
And to me on the outside looking at it, Nick,
you're much more involved in the players association obviously, but
for the outside look at it.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
This looks corrupt as hell.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
It does, and even if Lloyer is pushed out, the
damage is already done because now it leaves a bad
taste in the player's mouth whether they feel as though
they can trust leadership within the NFL PA, because you
had the collusion situation. He's like, well, then PA and Lord,
how had this information?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
They could have put out there.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You side a confidentiality agreement.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Right, but they didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
And it's like, okay, well, then you find out that
there's a conflict of interest because he is working with
another group that is working with the NFL. It's like,
whoa wah, wha, wha whah. How are we negotiating this
on two front? So this this is bad. Guys have
constantly called me asking me what the hell is going on,
and I'm like, man, I don't know, but once again,
(31:29):
this leaves a bad taste in the player's mouths.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, this is one that it's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I've got a bunch of text people asking me to explain,
like I don't understand how you can do this, and
I'm like, bro, you need to talk to your rep
first of all. But this is yeah, this definitely looks
like a case where Lloyd Howell is doing his best
to cover for the league instead of the players who
he's supposed to be beholden to.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Well, because he's trying to hold make sure.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
That this this this deal with this outside company goes through.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But you're telling you I got a conflict of interest.
One teams, one team, but yeah, the only team that
seems to matter is Jott Howell's team.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, so wouldn't be surprised if he gets bounced. We'll
steep Broncos country night. We gotta hit a break.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
We'll be back.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Kids.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
If you're listening right now, turn the Radio'll put your
uncle Ben and talk to you real quick.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
That's lame as hell.
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