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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Talking Broncos with Nick Ferguson always a good time, and
last hour we had Patrick keyote on with us from
Believe in the Broncos. We were talking a little bit
about expectations Nick for this Broncos team. What's the mentality
of a team when they're heading into camp and they're
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about to get started and there's sort of a feeling
in town about you guys that, all right, this could
be a really good year. You could take it a
big step, you know, contend for the division here, what's
that mentality like right before camp he gets started.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, I'm going to take you back to one of
my favorite movies, Rocky three, when Claude the Lane was asked,
what is your.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Prediction for the fight?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Pain?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Right, that's exactly what you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Are thinking about when it comes to training camp, you cause,
think about it. I mean, even though it's not as
intense as it was in years past, it's still training camp.
You're doing a lot of active movement. Your body is
going to be sore. Like the first thing that gets
sore are your hip flexus because now you're doing all
this turning and running and you haven't really done it
in almost a month, So that pain is going to
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be there, and then it's can you mentally push through
that pain? Right, because there's gonna be days where in
this early in the morning, I mean, do I don't
really want to be out here, knowing as though there's
not gonna be as many fans on the Brown right,
it's limited, and players live for that outside audience and
having those fans that to just kind of break up.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
The monotony of training camp, So being.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Able to kind of push through that, but also pain
from a standpoint of mental pain because they're gonna go
through their same installments like they did during OTA's and
Mini camp, and because we're getting to the reg's the
regular season, this stuff is gonna come one hundred miles
an hour. We already went over this because so we're
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not gonna spend too much time on it.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
We're gonna reintroduce it, We're gonna show it to you.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Now we moving right along mentally, can you push through
that pain of those days?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Like, man, what did he feel? What did he say?
I missed that? Do you understand that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Mentally you're draining your you're tired. And that's the one
thing about training camp. I remember back when I was playing.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Uh, I know.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We used to say it's a game of attrition and
just body being sore, mentally being tired, being in the
facility a lot later than you would normally be during
ot a's in the off season, and then going home,
and I mean, say, you're married, you.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Have a kid, young kid. You got to deal with that.
You still got to be a father, right.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Hey, no, no, here was my rule, here's my rulee.
Like training camp, I would tell my wife it's all
about ball, right, you want me to stay in playing,
you gotta take the kids, right. And then then after
we get through training camp, then it was like, then
I'll help out, Like I said, this is what I said.
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I'm not saying that's the way it went because my
wife was My wife was like, wait a minute, I've
been with him all day.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Now is your turn? Got stunt it?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
You're like, hey, coach, can I stay at the hotel?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's kind of one of those things.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But being able to push through that pain is going
to be really key for a lot of these guys.
And if you could see the light at the end
of the tunnel right to understand why you're doing this,
why are you putting your body through it. And I
know most people will say, well, you're getting paid for it, right, Yeah,
I mean you former job, you should get paid for it.
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But the idea is why you're doing this. You're trying
to win win a championship. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And so when those ext when when you believe that,
hey we got a chance to be good, that can
help you mentally get through somebody.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Where's your level of commitment?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah, because you want guys who are willing to commit,
because this is gonna be really tough roster to make
because there is some depth here, there is some talent. Obviously,
there's some positions that are definitely opening. But when we
get down to, you know, the first game of the season,
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you're gonna look around and it's gonna gonna be shocked
that certain faces did not make the team.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Right, But this is the business of football. This this happened.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So you go into war with the guys that you have,
and the mentality is like, I'm going to play for
the guy next to me.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I don't necessarily have to like him. I don't have
to like him, we don't have to hang out teammate.
That's my teammate.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So if we were to not that I'm advocated for
fistic cups, but if something.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Ever went down in the game, hey man, we're in
the same color.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
We're were in the same color. I'll say this, man,
I never really got along with offensive linemen.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Why you say that.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I don't know a single person who ever played in
the secondary who likes offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Okay, so obviously no we don't because officsitive linemen they hold,
they say, they never hold. And the guys that I
played with, you know, like tom Naalan, they hold.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
If it's a screen and they're running downfield, yes, you
don't want any taste.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And they would try.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
To pull you from the back of your jersey where
you don't want to be pulled because those are hamstring injuries.
And they do it because they don't want to run
down the field, right, So they try to limit you.
But yeah, I didn't really like a lot of our
office of linemen. But I tell you this, on game day,
if there was something to break out, I'm right there
with them.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I'm right there.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, but you're not gonna be on the field at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, with something okay, so no I'm not.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But when something happens, usually you leave the sidelines even
though you know that you shouldn't leave.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, yes, yeah, or you pull a move right you get.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
In there, there's an altercation, you start pushing the shove
and you look around and see where they're rough, and
then you start pulling guys out.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Man, come on, but yeah, that's going to be the
second guy. Yes, that's who always gets Scott. So, I
know training camp is way different than OTAs. Is that
why rookies come in a week early just to kind
of get settled back in and be like, okay when
the vets come back, this is a different deal.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Than what you guys just went through an off season.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, because it gives those rookies an opportunity to kind
of restore what they went over in OTA's in mini caamp.
Hopefully the guys were studying when they were away, but
it gives them a little uh advance on what's going
to be installed.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Because they also know once the.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Veterans come in, whatever reps that you were receiving, they're
going to diminish.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, they're going down.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I always feel like the AFI's a program. Everybody's buddy, buddy,
you come in and get a workout in and then
you're gone after lunch, right, Like, it's just good, it's nice.
But then when training camp starts, the physicality all of
a sudden is real. Guys are fighting for their livelihood.
They're trying to make the team. You know, they're thinking.
Some of these guys, they got a wife and kid
back at home, and you're just fresh out of school
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and you're like, oh, I'm just happy to be here.
It's like night and date. Different from OS's program to
training camp.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, listen, you don't want to have one of those.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Man, I'm just happy to be here, right, because if
you're competing for a job, some veterans look at it
this way. They're happy that you're just happy to be
here because now you're no longer a threat.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, and my whole.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Idea, and I would tell any young player on this roster,
if you're buried on a depth chart, you have no friends. Yeah,
you have no friends. And I know that sounds bad
to say, but you are. You're in the home stretch, right.
Training camp is very short, and if you don't make
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your presence known in the first couple of days, you're
gonna lost. Yes, you're gonna be buried on it on
the depth trot because the team, just like Patrick talked about,
you've already tasted the fact of what the playoffs taste like.
It was like a nine year drought. Now it's like
going from Rama Nudus to Filet Mignon.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Now, I don't know about you. I hate them damn
rama Us.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I put them off the shelf and I step on
the minute supermarket. But when once you taste Filet Mignon,
you want more of it. You don't want less of it.
So you guys have to go they have to go
out there and they have to compete and understand there's
a friendship, there's a bond that you're developing training camp,
but at the end of the day, you are trying
to make this team.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, and there's just a totally different mindset, you know,
from somebody who's been in the league eight nine years
and somebody who's just coming in. And you know, I,
like they say, NFL stands for not for long. It's
so tough to get that through to rookies. It feels
like because when you first get here, you feel like
you got this whole ten year career. Here you go
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and it's just like it just doesn't work out like that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You know, that part is a it's a lie.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, it's a facade and a haze that you have
to find a way to mentally get through. And in
my early days, there were veterans who would try to
tell me to slow down, and I would be like, no,
I'm not do you know how I got here. I'm undrafted.
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I'm not going to slow down. And that was my
mentality from year one to year ten. I am not
slowing down for you. Why should I slow down and
undermine my ability to help you out.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It's not gonna help me make the same and it's
not gonna make you better.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So these guys have to look at it because the
game of four, I mean, you work for the team
at one point, and you you watched and saw a
lot of things that happened.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
This game is cutthroat, right, Yeah, they are no friends.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Every year there's a crop of people trying to take
your job every year, every year, and they're younger, and
they're cheaper, cost effective, yes you know, and they're trying
to take your job. And every year it happens where
somebody you didn't expect to get cut gets cut. That
happens every single year. You're like, whoa, that was a surprise.
It's because one of these young guys comes in, makes
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an impression and boom, that's all it takes it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Here's the thing, like, like, as a veteran guy, you
want to make sure that no one gets injured. Yeah, right,
And you don't want a young guy just kind of
running off over the place, just reckless, because the whole
idea was you don't want guys on the ground. And
I remember, I mean Alex Gibbs. I can still hear
him screaming stay up, stay up. And sometimes it's hard,
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but you have to work to protect your teammates but
still show your physicality and still get your work in.
But my whole thing is from year one to year ten,
like I said, I was the same person.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You only become concerned.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
With that rookie who doesn't know how to practice, and
he's like a wild mustang. He's just out of freaking control. Right,
But you still got to get your work in. And
the idea was competitive, not combative.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
There's a difference between the two because how many times
you've been to training camp and there's been a fight.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yes, And sometimes I'll tell you this, I tell my
wife's story. I'll tell you really quickly. Being around Bill Parcells,
I mean he's different guy. Loved the guy to death.
One time there was a fight and yeah, I was
in the middle of it. Right, had something to do
with smallfuls of mine.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's so there's a fight and you're thinking that they're
gonna stop the fight. No, he let it go. And
I remember I telling my wife. She was like, wait
a minute, what do you mean he let it go.
I was like, yes, there's a bigger story to this, right,
And I said, well, he eventually let it die down.
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And he was like, wow, I didn't realize you guys
had that much energy.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
At this point in practice.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You have this much energy to fight perfect so perfect, yes, perfect.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Lit's started over. It was. It was that type of thing.
And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm a younger kid at the time in the League'm like,
I'm sorry, what he's gonna start to paying?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yes, he's gonna start a period over. I was like,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
All right, So I need to make sure I'm really
strategic when I fight, and.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Do I fight so that type of thing.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Oh gosh, yeah, that's a that's a good story.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I always like training camp because there's dad. There's like
a lot of pranks that go on. There's like a
rookie show. There's like a lot of cranks.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Are you talking about Phil, We don't prank anyone.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Well, well, there's like just some fun stuff too, Like
I know, Peyton played a lot of practical jokes.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I remember one time in practice somebody these cars getting
towed right in the middle of the parking lot. You know,
things like that where you know, I think those kind
of things are important because you're building that camaraderie that
later in the season it'll come out somehow.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Well it doesn't depending on who you talk to.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
They may see that you could go too far, which
is not good.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I remember when I was here.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
This was when Darren Williams, Domini Fox were than Carl
Paymer were all drafted, and uh we did. We had
some issues with Carl Paymer kind of complying to.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yes, you got to carry my pads in right, so
he kind.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Of button the system and Al Wilson's.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Like, okay, we don't do that. Then all of a
sudden called him I had this green range Rover, and
when he came out of the locker room he could
find it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Now we all knew where it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Was because we could see it because where the present
day facility is and where they're building the new facility,
it was like a dirt hill and that's where his
car was. So his car was moved and the doors
were opened. The radio was on, so by the time
he figured out where his vehicle was, he couldn't start it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, oh god, that's not that bad. Yeah, but I
think those kind of things that to a certain extent help,
And it's kind of like what makes training camp training camp.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It does man, and and for me, it's having fans
out there that that was the big part of it.
And coach Shanahan at first he was opposed to it,
but then he kind of started lean into it because
it made practice a lot easier. It was the first
time that Nick ferg Show was born.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Oh see, yes, I love that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Now our string. The conditioning coach Rich Dudent, he hated it. Stress, Nick,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I'm over there? The people? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
See, I remember like when Payton was hair, they would
rent out a bowling alley and the whole team would
just go do that, you know, just things like that,
I feel like is what training camp is about, and
building a team and you know, playing for teammates and
that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, and I'll say this really quickly with with coach Shanahan.
If he felt as though we gave him several days
of two a day practice where it was intense and
then you have that Saturday practice where it's live go line,
he was all for having those types of moments, Like
the end of the training camp he had this big
party at his house.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, those are like legendary parties. Here's some stories for
those parties. Yeah, we can't tell, No, we can't. Sorry,
that was a tease. All right, We're gonna take a
quick break here, but when we come back, we'll talk
about a few other things, including something that Nick liked
from the All Star Game in the MLB. That's next
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a Broncos Country tonight, hanging out here in studio with
Nick Ferguson. Nick, you know, we like all kinds of
sports here, Yeah, we do. And you know this week
obviously the MLB All Star Game.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yeah, you know, it got good ratings.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know, I think people are interested to see what
the All Star Game would look like this year. And
it was kind of a cool thing they did on
the broadcast with Clayton Kershaw. You know, he was there
sort of like in a celebratory fashion because you know
this is gonna be his last season and he had
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such a great career here, and.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
They had him miked up on the mound.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You know, he was only out there for a couple
of batters, but he was miked up on the man
and it sounded a little like this, what do you want?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
What do you want? Cut her in? Slider in?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I don't throw a cutter slider?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Canna make a mess o short?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
How do you splitty breakout this?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
This is so weird talking to you guys. It's come hey.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You have to just in like live there on the
mound pitching and talking with the guys in the booth,
talking to John Smoltz, Hey, what.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
What kind of pitch you want here?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's like, this is kind of a cool interactive I'm
not sure if I've seen something that interactive in the
middle of a game.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
No, not like.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That, and uh on a major League Baseball level, for sure,
But we've seen something similar like that in the XFL.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Where do you do the interviews on the on the sideline?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
But you got to think if you're trying to pitch
and someone's talking to your ear, even though you know
you have a pitch clock, you can wind up, you
can do all those things. It makes it a little difficult.
But at the same time, sitting at home watching it
and listening to it, it was great.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
And I would say this film, and I don't know
how you feel about this, that I would love to
see to a certain degree.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The NFL do that, to see it in basketball where
we can get into the heads of the players and
get a little bit that back and forth trash talk.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, it's just different than like an interview because you
rarely get anything out of the sideline interview, you know,
Like usually it's just like, yeah, we got a rebound
in the locker room here, and we'll regroup and see
what happens at a second half Boom it's done, and
it's like you're not really getting something from that.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
It's so generic.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, and it's just sort of like, oh well, it's
like I almost like am like already in the kitchen
getting a sandwich or something, you know, before it gets
to a locker room like that, right if I'm just
watching it at home.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Because you know, those guys are not going to give
you too much.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, but what And then in the NFL you get
the micd up but that's like edited and heavily produced,
and like there's a lot of good stuff that's taken out.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Of there, don't I don't want the edited part. I
want the raw, uncut, no chaser, right. And I know
the league is going to be like, well, you know,
especially if the game is on ESPN owned by Disney,
certain things that you can't say. And I'm like, well,
how can you say that? Because I've seen some of
these sp awards and they allowed some of the hosts
to say certain things. So don't tell me about, you know,
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protecting kids' ears or whatever. But I want to hear
what happens in the huddle. I want to see a
quarterback get in the huddle. You know, maybe we don't
we don't need.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
The call from the sideline, but what we.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Need is to hear if that quarterbacks got to repeat
the call.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, ye, someone someone didn't hear the calls?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Like are you paying attention? We're running out of time.
We're in a two minute drill. Pay attention, here's the
damn call again.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I want to see that.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, well, I would say, like, so you get a
little bit of that sometimes in the NBA, when like
in the game, they'll like edit a little montage of
a guy miked up together. But live baseball is so
controlled where Okay, he knows he's miked up. He's on
the mound, so he's away from everybody else a little bit,
and it's like such a controlled situation. The nervous thing
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I think that like executives and certainly people on the teams.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Would be dumb button.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
They just be a little bit nervous about one giving
away too much and then or two like.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Obviously a bat word going out over there.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Well, I've seen baseball do this. They did it last year.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I think when the Dodgers were playing in the playoffs,
they had one of their guys in the outfield kind
of miked up. Oh and yeah, he was miked up
and he was talking to the guys.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, and he had to tell them.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
To pause for a second second because it looked like
a ball was coming.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
His white Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It was entertaining because he's having a conversation with the
guys in the booth, and I think you can do
that with guys in outfield.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yeah, but not so much just hanging up.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, not so much. With the picture. I would love
to hear what a character has to.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Say, yeah, yeah, exactly, okay, yeah, if he's talking to
the batter, you know. Yeah, and those guys obviously have
the earpiece in to be able to have the conversation too,
So yeah, kind of an interesting insight, like into what
it's like really like you know, it's like it's real.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, I will I They would never do this, but
I would love to see coach Sean Payton micd up.
Yeah it never happened, even if it's for a quarter, right,
just just having Mack miked up when he's giving his
call from the play sheet, have a silent yeah right
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but after.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
That yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, it would be Yeah,
it would be amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
That would be great TV.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I believe that that's a role with NFL films, that
every team has to have a guy miked up at
least once in a year. So like last year, PS
two is miked up during that game when Medino went crazy.
Yeah you know, so you have to have a player
available to be miked up for NFL films at least
once in a year, and so, but.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Make sure that it's a player that has character, because
sometimes in the NBA and in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
It can be boring.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It's boring because you mike a guy up and he
doesn't give you anything.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah, I mean I say that be a right personality.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
It's not to say that he has to say something outlandish.
It's just a fact that saying, can you give me
some personality?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, I mean exactly, I just give me some something funny, Yes,
Michael engaging.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Mike up Quinn Minors, I would to see what's happening, yeah,
with with with those guys because Alva's alignement and deepens alignment.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
They are funny.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And even if Quinn Minors never says a thing, it's
the guys across from him on the opposite side of
the field.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You know, come you ready yet, these are the.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Type of things that I would love to hear.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
And then just like NFL films, when a guy gets tackled,
you hear the yeah, you hear the grunts, the breathing,
all of that stuff. These are the things that made
me fall in love with the game as a kid
watching NFL films.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh yeah, I mean the storytelling there is amazing, and
you know, they just it takes you into the game
and it sort of gives you a peek behind the
curtain for what's actually taking place. You know, during the games,
you know you always see you know, Bo comes over
and sits down next to Sean. What are you talking about?
You're talking about what's going on? You know, that gives
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you that insight into that, you know, and you gotta
have the right guy.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
You're totally right.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
But there's like memorable micd up moments I remember And
Peyton was miked up once when he was in Indie
talking with the gatorade guy, you know, and hey, what
flavor is this? What colors this? Give me the good gatorade?
You know, those are like memorable moments.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It's funny, that's what you remember.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, I remember Peyton in Just Saturday. It once again
that was raw, that that that was real. That was
a quarterback who was frustrated. But then that was also
an office of lineman who was frustrated. But it just
shows how we there's a the competitive drive that we
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have as individuals. It comes in collectively, and sometimes there's
exchange of differences, and sometimes those conversations are nice and funny,
and sometimes they can be really spirited.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Would you have liked to?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's sort of like it's a little bit like you're
opening yourself up as a player. You know, they're listening
to everything you say. Would you have liked that?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You know?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I would have been okay with it.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
But I'm not one of those players that I did
a lot of talking, see I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Talk No, I did not. I mean you have to think,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Jeorgia Leary was my college coach and then I played
for Bill Parcels. So I grew up with this whole idea,
you don't need to do all that talk less, say
say less with your mouth and say more with the
helmet and shoulder pads.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Right, So that was the kind of guy that I was.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I wasn't going to get into a back and forth.
I mean, I might get into some entanglements, but I'm
I'm no, I'm not doing all that.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Jump intimidating you trying to do any of that.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
No for what, well, I feel like safety, like, hey,
maybe you make a big hit and you're you say
something like you think that was bad?
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Wait, that's the next side. Do that again? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So here, here's what I've said before, because I guess
my nemesis and the nemesis of so many differentive players,
was heinz War Oh?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Yes, would blindside hit you? Yes?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So I don't like the fact that how people would
call him tough and all of that, because I don't
perceive him as being tough then even now. So my
thing was when we played them on Monday Night football.
I remember because the year before in Pittsburgh, he got
me good.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I came back in the game and I shouldn't have,
but I serveled it on my calendar, and I'm like,
this may be a nice time for some little get back.
So that whole game, I mean I was. I saw
a red entire game, and anyone that was in a
different colored uniform, I'm giving.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Them the business.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And there were a couple of times where I couldn't
get him, right.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I would get close. I just I couldn't get him.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So what I would do I would hit his teammates
and I would tell them that's for him.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
The entire game. Come on.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Out here.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I was going to my whole idea was I was
going to make them get so upset with hinds and
by hitting them, and then and then you know, the
skies opened up. He caught a little dig route and
just so happens, he was a couple of yards from me.
So I said, thank you heavily father, and DJ Williams
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was going to tackle him, and I'm saying, DJ, no,
hold him off. I have a picture on my phone.
He's trying to sit his butt on the ground and
unfortunate for him, he never made it to the ground
before I got to him. And I even did and
even then, you could have been up for that, trust me.
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That wasn't the game film, No, no, they would have
been deeping everything.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That's like I think Steve was miked up for his
hit on Yes he was. Yeah, there's some cool moments
you can capture like that.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That's cool, cool moments.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
But you know, I think this takes fans inside the game.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And when you look at you know, the the NFO.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Is being streamed on more women's services now than they
were in years past. Even I think on Netflix they
have a series called Quarterback. Then there was another one
called so It's it's taking you inside the game itself,
and more fans are intrigued by you know, what happens
after turnover? What do they say coming out of halftime?
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And everyone is kind of hanging on every word. And
I'm not saying that you need to give out trade secrets,
protect those things, but give fans a little more insight
on what really goes on in the game and help
make up.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
The officials them up because.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
The coach yelling at him and they're trying to explain
to the coach, coach, here's the rule, and the coach
is yelling and screaming or whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I want to see that. But referees, I'll say this.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
They don't get as much respect as they deserve. Very
as a mom would say, the patience of job.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Yeah, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I did want to ask you one question, you know,
with the training camp coming up, I'm just always curious
about this take talking about taking fans inside the game
a little bit more. How much working out do players
do from when the off season program ends and training
camp begins, Because it feels like during the off season
program you've built yourself up into such great shape, then
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you get this month off here before camp starts, So
like was your approach always to like try and stay
at that top top.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Let's see field it is different.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
See these guys get a chance to get a month off.
When we played here for coach Shanahan, the way the
schedule work, the idea was try to keep us here
for as long as we could because once you go
back down to sea level or below sea level, everything
that you.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Have worked for is now gone.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, so we would go and we would have like
a week or two weeks before we had to report
for training camp now quicker. We hated it, but at
the same time, it helped for us to come back
because we didn't have to get in shape to get
in shape. So that's the thing that we're going to
have to pay attention to when the team comes back,
because we're not going to see the team in pads
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right away.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
It's going to be in in you know, T shirt
and short Olympics.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
To get guys acclimated back to the fact of being
in an altitude because if you don't do it that way,
that's how injuries take place. And you don't want guys
with soft tissue injuries because once you get a soft
tissue injury, you have that for the entire season.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, and they've done such a good job with bow
and everything, Bowl Lowry and just sort of preventing those things.
But you know, you see the players do all these
camps like tight end camp, pass rusher camp. You know,
I saw Courtland working out with all the wide receivers,
Shadow Josinko. You know, I just kind of curious, like
how hard do they work out during this time or
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are they just hanging by the beach.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Well, you can tell the pros who the pros are.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
They come back in shape.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, you come back in.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Shape, and this means something to you because this is
not an amateur sport.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
This is your job. This is what you do for
a living.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's just like if you're automocanic, you're not working on
the garden.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I mean, you're trying to kind of build an engine.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
So you are your engine that drives your career. And
we'll find out, you know, come next week, which guys
put in that work and which guys didn't.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeh, some guys come back and they're huffing and puffing
those Hey.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Hey, that body language is brutal.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
When you see someone looking to the sideline and know
what comes to stuff you out and they get hands
on the waist and hands on the knees.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Is like you're playing a game of hokey pokey. That
first weight back is tough, it's a.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Grind and once again you have to be able to
mentally push through the pain.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, it's excited to get the team back here. So
all right, that's going to do it for us. For
Nick Ferguson, I am film Wine. You've been listening to
Broncos country tonight,
Talking Broncos with Nick Ferguson always a good time, and
last hour we had Patrick keyote on with us from
Believe in the Broncos. We were talking a little bit
about expectations Nick for this Broncos team. What's the mentality
of a team when they're heading into camp and they're
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about to get started and there's sort of a feeling
in town about you guys that, all right, this could
be a really good year. You could take it a
big step, you know, contend for the division here, what's
that mentality like right before camp he gets started.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, I'm going to take you back to one of
my favorite movies, Rocky three, when Claude the Lane was asked,
what is your.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Prediction for the fight?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Pain?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Right, that's exactly what you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Are thinking about when it comes to training camp, you cause,
think about it. I mean, even though it's not as
intense as it was in years past, it's still training camp.
You're doing a lot of active movement. Your body is
going to be sore. Like the first thing that gets
sore are your hip flexus because now you're doing all
this turning and running and you haven't really done it
in almost a month, So that pain is going to
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be there, and then it's can you mentally push through
that pain? Right, because there's gonna be days where in
this early in the morning, I mean, do I don't
really want to be out here, knowing as though there's
not gonna be as many fans on the Brown right,
it's limited, and players live for that outside audience and
having those fans that to just kind of break up.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
The monotony of training camp, So being.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Able to kind of push through that, but also pain
from a standpoint of mental pain because they're gonna go
through their same installments like they did during OTA's and
Mini camp, and because we're getting to the reg's the
regular season, this stuff is gonna come one hundred miles
an hour. We already went over this because so we're
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not gonna spend too much time on it.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
We're gonna reintroduce it, We're gonna show it to you.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Now we moving right along mentally, can you push through
that pain of those days?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Like, man, what did he feel? What did he say?
I missed that? Do you understand that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Mentally you're draining your you're tired. And that's the one
thing about training camp. I remember back when I was playing.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Uh, I know.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We used to say it's a game of attrition and
just body being sore, mentally being tired, being in the
facility a lot later than you would normally be during
ot a's in the off season, and then going home,
and I mean, say, you're married, you.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Have a kid, young kid. You got to deal with that.
You still got to be a father, right.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Hey, no, no, here was my rule, here's my rulee.
Like training camp, I would tell my wife it's all
about ball, right, you want me to stay in playing,
you gotta take the kids, right. And then then after
we get through training camp, then it was like, then
I'll help out, Like I said, this is what I said.
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I'm not saying that's the way it went because my
wife was My wife was like, wait a minute, I've
been with him all day.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Now is your turn? Got stunt it?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
You're like, hey, coach, can I stay at the hotel?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's kind of one of those things.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
But being able to push through that pain is going
to be really key for a lot of these guys.
And if you could see the light at the end
of the tunnel right to understand why you're doing this,
why are you putting your body through it. And I
know most people will say, well, you're getting paid for it, right, Yeah,
I mean you former job, you should get paid for it.
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But the idea is why you're doing this. You're trying
to win win a championship. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And so when those ext when when you believe that,
hey we got a chance to be good, that can
help you mentally get through somebody.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Where's your level of commitment?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, yeah, because you want guys who are willing to commit,
because this is gonna be really tough roster to make
because there is some depth here, there is some talent. Obviously,
there's some positions that are definitely opening. But when we
get down to, you know, the first game of the season,
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you're gonna look around and it's gonna gonna be shocked
that certain faces did not make the team.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Right, But this is the business of football. This this happened.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So you go into war with the guys that you have,
and the mentality is like, I'm going to play for
the guy next to me.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I don't necessarily have to like him. I don't have
to like him, we don't have to hang out teammate.
That's my teammate.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So if we were to not that I'm advocated for
fistic cups, but if something.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Ever went down in the game, hey man, we're in
the same color.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
We're were in the same color. I'll say this, man,
I never really got along with offensive linemen.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Why you say that.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I don't know a single person who ever played in
the secondary who likes offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Okay, so obviously no we don't because officsitive linemen they hold,
they say, they never hold. And the guys that I
played with, you know, like tom Naalan, they hold.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
If it's a screen and they're running downfield, yes, you
don't want any taste.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And they would try.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
To pull you from the back of your jersey where
you don't want to be pulled because those are hamstring injuries.
And they do it because they don't want to run
down the field, right, So they try to limit you.
But yeah, I didn't really like a lot of our
office of linemen. But I tell you this, on game day,
if there was something to break out, I'm right there
with them.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I'm right there.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, but you're not gonna be on the field at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, with something okay, so no I'm not.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But when something happens, usually you leave the sidelines even
though you know that you shouldn't leave.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, yes, yeah, or you pull a move right you get.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
In there, there's an altercation, you start pushing the shove
and you look around and see where they're rough, and
then you start pulling guys out.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Man, come on, but yeah, that's going to be the
second guy. Yes, that's who always gets Scott. So, I
know training camp is way different than OTAs. Is that
why rookies come in a week early just to kind
of get settled back in and be like, okay when
the vets come back, this is a different deal.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Than what you guys just went through an off season.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, because it gives those rookies an opportunity to kind
of restore what they went over in OTA's in mini caamp.
Hopefully the guys were studying when they were away, but
it gives them a little uh advance on what's going
to be installed.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Because they also know once the.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Veterans come in, whatever reps that you were receiving, they're
going to diminish.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, they're going down.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I always feel like the AFI's a program. Everybody's buddy, buddy,
you come in and get a workout in and then
you're gone after lunch, right, Like, it's just good, it's nice.
But then when training camp starts, the physicality all of
a sudden is real. Guys are fighting for their livelihood.
They're trying to make the team. You know, they're thinking.
Some of these guys, they got a wife and kid
back at home, and you're just fresh out of school
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and you're like, oh, I'm just happy to be here.
It's like night and date. Different from OS's program to
training camp.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, listen, you don't want to have one of those.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Man, I'm just happy to be here, right, because if
you're competing for a job, some veterans look at it
this way. They're happy that you're just happy to be
here because now you're no longer a threat.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, and my whole.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Idea, and I would tell any young player on this roster,
if you're buried on a depth chart, you have no friends. Yeah,
you have no friends. And I know that sounds bad
to say, but you are. You're in the home stretch, right.
Training camp is very short, and if you don't make
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your presence known in the first couple of days, you're
gonna lost. Yes, you're gonna be buried on it on
the depth trot because the team, just like Patrick talked about,
you've already tasted the fact of what the playoffs taste like.
It was like a nine year drought. Now it's like
going from Rama Nudus to Filet Mignon.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Now, I don't know about you. I hate them damn
rama Us.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I put them off the shelf and I step on
the minute supermarket. But when once you taste Filet Mignon,
you want more of it. You don't want less of it.
So you guys have to go they have to go
out there and they have to compete and understand there's
a friendship, there's a bond that you're developing training camp,
but at the end of the day, you are trying
to make this team.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, and there's just a totally different mindset, you know,
from somebody who's been in the league eight nine years
and somebody who's just coming in. And you know, I,
like they say, NFL stands for not for long. It's
so tough to get that through to rookies. It feels
like because when you first get here, you feel like
you got this whole ten year career. Here you go
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and it's just like it just doesn't work out like that.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
You know, that part is a it's a lie.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, it's a facade and a haze that you have
to find a way to mentally get through. And in
my early days, there were veterans who would try to
tell me to slow down, and I would be like, no,
I'm not do you know how I got here. I'm undrafted.
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I'm not going to slow down. And that was my
mentality from year one to year ten. I am not
slowing down for you. Why should I slow down and
undermine my ability to help you out.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It's not gonna help me make the same and it's
not gonna make you better.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So these guys have to look at it because the
game of four, I mean, you work for the team
at one point, and you you watched and saw a
lot of things that happened.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
This game is cutthroat, right, Yeah, they are no friends.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Every year there's a crop of people trying to take
your job every year, every year, and they're younger, and
they're cheaper, cost effective, yes you know, and they're trying
to take your job. And every year it happens where
somebody you didn't expect to get cut gets cut. That
happens every single year. You're like, whoa, that was a surprise.
It's because one of these young guys comes in, makes
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an impression and boom, that's all it takes it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Here's the thing, like, like, as a veteran guy, you
want to make sure that no one gets injured. Yeah, right,
And you don't want a young guy just kind of
running off over the place, just reckless, because the whole
idea was you don't want guys on the ground. And
I remember, I mean Alex Gibbs. I can still hear
him screaming stay up, stay up. And sometimes it's hard,
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but you have to work to protect your teammates but
still show your physicality and still get your work in.
But my whole thing is from year one to year ten,
like I said, I was the same person.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You only become concerned.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
With that rookie who doesn't know how to practice, and
he's like a wild mustang. He's just out of freaking control. Right,
But you still got to get your work in. And
the idea was competitive, not combative.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
There's a difference between the two because how many times
you've been to training camp and there's been a fight.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yes, And sometimes I'll tell you this, I tell my
wife's story. I'll tell you really quickly. Being around Bill Parcells,
I mean he's different guy. Loved the guy to death.
One time there was a fight and yeah, I was
in the middle of it. Right, had something to do
with smallfuls of mine.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's so there's a fight and you're thinking that they're
gonna stop the fight. No, he let it go. And
I remember I telling my wife. She was like, wait
a minute, what do you mean he let it go.
I was like, yes, there's a bigger story to this, right,
And I said, well, he eventually let it die down.
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And he was like, wow, I didn't realize you guys
had that much energy.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
At this point in practice.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You have this much energy to fight perfect so perfect, yes, perfect.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Lit's started over. It was. It was that type of thing.
And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I'm a younger kid at the time in the League'm like,
I'm sorry, what he's gonna start to paying?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yes, he's gonna start a period over. I was like,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
All right, So I need to make sure I'm really
strategic when I fight, and.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Do I fight so that type of thing.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Oh gosh, yeah, that's a that's a good story.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I always like training camp because there's dad. There's like
a lot of pranks that go on. There's like a
rookie show. There's like a lot of cranks.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Are you talking about Phil, We don't prank anyone.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Well, well, there's like just some fun stuff too, Like
I know, Peyton played a lot of practical jokes.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I remember one time in practice somebody these cars getting
towed right in the middle of the parking lot. You know,
things like that where you know, I think those kind
of things are important because you're building that camaraderie that
later in the season it'll come out somehow.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Well it doesn't depending on who you talk to.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
They may see that you could go too far, which
is not good.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I remember when I was here.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
This was when Darren Williams, Domini Fox were than Carl
Paymer were all drafted, and uh we did. We had
some issues with Carl Paymer kind of complying to.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yes, you got to carry my pads in right, so
he kind.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Of button the system and Al Wilson's.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Like, okay, we don't do that. Then all of a
sudden called him I had this green range Rover, and
when he came out of the locker room he could
find it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Now we all knew where it.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Was because we could see it because where the present
day facility is and where they're building the new facility,
it was like a dirt hill and that's where his
car was. So his car was moved and the doors
were opened. The radio was on, so by the time
he figured out where his vehicle was, he couldn't start it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, oh god, that's not that bad. Yeah, but I
think those kind of things that to a certain extent help,
And it's kind of like what makes training camp training camp.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It does man, and and for me, it's having fans
out there that that was the big part of it.
And coach Shanahan at first he was opposed to it,
but then he kind of started lean into it because
it made practice a lot easier. It was the first
time that Nick ferg Show was born.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Oh see, yes, I love that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Now our string. The conditioning coach Rich Dudent, he hated it. Stress, Nick,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I'm over there? The people? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
See, I remember like when Payton was hair, they would
rent out a bowling alley and the whole team would
just go do that, you know, just things like that,
I feel like is what training camp is about, and
building a team and you know, playing for teammates and
that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, and I'll say this really quickly with with coach Shanahan.
If he felt as though we gave him several days
of two a day practice where it was intense and
then you have that Saturday practice where it's live go line,
he was all for having those types of moments, Like
the end of the training camp he had this big
party at his house.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, those are like legendary parties. Here's some stories for
those parties. Yeah, we can't tell, No, we can't. Sorry,
that was a tease. All right, We're gonna take a
quick break here, but when we come back, we'll talk
about a few other things, including something that Nick liked
from the All Star Game in the MLB. That's next
(16:09):
a Broncos Country tonight, hanging out here in studio with
Nick Ferguson. Nick, you know, we like all kinds of
sports here, Yeah, we do. And you know this week
obviously the MLB All Star Game.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yeah, you know, it got good ratings.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know, I think people are interested to see what
the All Star Game would look like this year. And
it was kind of a cool thing they did on
the broadcast with Clayton Kershaw. You know, he was there
sort of like in a celebratory fashion because you know
this is gonna be his last season and he had
(16:50):
such a great career here, and.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
They had him miked up on the mound.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You know, he was only out there for a couple
of batters, but he was miked up on the man
and it sounded a little like this, what do you want?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
What do you want? Cut her in? Slider in?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I don't throw a cutter slider?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Canna make a mess o short?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
How do you splitty breakout this?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
This is so weird talking to you guys. It's come hey.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You have to just in like live there on the
mound pitching and talking with the guys in the booth,
talking to John Smoltz, Hey, what.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
What kind of pitch you want here?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's like, this is kind of a cool interactive I'm
not sure if I've seen something that interactive in the
middle of a game.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
No, not like.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That, and uh on a major League Baseball level, for sure,
But we've seen something similar like that in the XFL.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Where do you do the interviews on the on the sideline?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
But you got to think if you're trying to pitch
and someone's talking to your ear, even though you know
you have a pitch clock, you can wind up, you
can do all those things. It makes it a little difficult.
But at the same time, sitting at home watching it
and listening to it, it was great.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
And I would say this film, and I don't know
how you feel about this, that I would love to
see to a certain degree.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The NFL do that, to see it in basketball where
we can get into the heads of the players and
get a little bit that back and forth trash talk.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, it's just different than like an interview because you
rarely get anything out of the sideline interview, you know,
Like usually it's just like, yeah, we got a rebound
in the locker room here, and we'll regroup and see
what happens at a second half Boom it's done, and
it's like you're not really getting something from that.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
It's so generic.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, and it's just sort of like, oh well, it's
like I almost like am like already in the kitchen
getting a sandwich or something, you know, before it gets
to a locker room like that, right if I'm just
watching it at home.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Because you know, those guys are not going to give
you too much.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, but what And then in the NFL you get
the micd up but that's like edited and heavily produced,
and like there's a lot of good stuff that's taken out.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Of there, don't I don't want the edited part. I
want the raw, uncut, no chaser, right. And I know
the league is going to be like, well, you know,
especially if the game is on ESPN owned by Disney,
certain things that you can't say. And I'm like, well,
how can you say that? Because I've seen some of
these sp awards and they allowed some of the hosts
to say certain things. So don't tell me about, you know,
(19:32):
protecting kids' ears or whatever. But I want to hear
what happens in the huddle. I want to see a
quarterback get in the huddle. You know, maybe we don't
we don't need.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
The call from the sideline, but what we.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Need is to hear if that quarterbacks got to repeat
the call.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, ye, someone someone didn't hear the calls?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Like are you paying attention? We're running out of time.
We're in a two minute drill. Pay attention, here's the
damn call again.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I want to see that.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, well, I would say, like, so you get a
little bit of that sometimes in the NBA, when like
in the game, they'll like edit a little montage of
a guy miked up together. But live baseball is so
controlled where Okay, he knows he's miked up. He's on
the mound, so he's away from everybody else a little bit,
and it's like such a controlled situation. The nervous thing
(20:22):
I think that like executives and certainly people on the teams.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Would be dumb button.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
They just be a little bit nervous about one giving
away too much and then or two like.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Obviously a bat word going out over there.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Well, I've seen baseball do this. They did it last year.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I think when the Dodgers were playing in the playoffs,
they had one of their guys in the outfield kind
of miked up. Oh and yeah, he was miked up
and he was talking to the guys.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, and he had to tell them.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
To pause for a second second because it looked like
a ball was coming.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
His white Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It was entertaining because he's having a conversation with the
guys in the booth, and I think you can do
that with guys in outfield.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yeah, but not so much just hanging up.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, not so much. With the picture. I would love
to hear what a character has to.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Say, yeah, yeah, exactly, okay, yeah, if he's talking to
the batter, you know. Yeah, and those guys obviously have
the earpiece in to be able to have the conversation too,
So yeah, kind of an interesting insight, like into what
it's like really like you know, it's like it's real.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, I will I They would never do this, but
I would love to see coach Sean Payton micd up.
Yeah it never happened, even if it's for a quarter, right,
just just having Mack miked up when he's giving his
call from the play sheet, have a silent yeah right
(21:51):
but after.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
That yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, it would be Yeah,
it would be amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
That would be great TV.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I believe that that's a role with NFL films, that
every team has to have a guy miked up at
least once in a year. So like last year, PS
two is miked up during that game when Medino went crazy.
Yeah you know, so you have to have a player
available to be miked up for NFL films at least
once in a year, and so, but.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Make sure that it's a player that has character, because
sometimes in the NBA and in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
It can be boring.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It's boring because you mike a guy up and he
doesn't give you anything.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah, I mean I say that be a right personality.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
It's not to say that he has to say something outlandish.
It's just a fact that saying, can you give me
some personality?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, I mean exactly, I just give me some something funny, Yes,
Michael engaging.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Mike up Quinn Minors, I would to see what's happening, yeah,
with with with those guys because Alva's alignement and deepens alignment.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
They are funny.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And even if Quinn Minors never says a thing, it's
the guys across from him on the opposite side of
the field.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You know, come you ready yet, these are the.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Type of things that I would love to hear.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
And then just like NFL films, when a guy gets tackled,
you hear the yeah, you hear the grunts, the breathing,
all of that stuff. These are the things that made
me fall in love with the game as a kid
watching NFL films.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh yeah, I mean the storytelling there is amazing, and
you know, they just it takes you into the game
and it sort of gives you a peek behind the
curtain for what's actually taking place. You know, during the games,
you know you always see you know, Bo comes over
and sits down next to Sean. What are you talking about?
You're talking about what's going on? You know, that gives
(23:40):
you that insight into that, you know, and you gotta
have the right guy.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
You're totally right.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
But there's like memorable micd up moments I remember And
Peyton was miked up once when he was in Indie
talking with the gatorade guy, you know, and hey, what
flavor is this? What colors this? Give me the good gatorade?
You know, those are like memorable moments.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It's funny, that's what you remember.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, I remember Peyton in Just Saturday. It once again
that was raw, that that that was real. That was
a quarterback who was frustrated. But then that was also
an office of lineman who was frustrated. But it just
shows how we there's a the competitive drive that we
(24:24):
have as individuals. It comes in collectively, and sometimes there's
exchange of differences, and sometimes those conversations are nice and funny,
and sometimes they can be really spirited.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Would you have liked to?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's sort of like it's a little bit like you're
opening yourself up as a player. You know, they're listening
to everything you say. Would you have liked that?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You know?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I would have been okay with it.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
But I'm not one of those players that I did
a lot of talking, see I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Talk No, I did not. I mean you have to think,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Jeorgia Leary was my college coach and then I played
for Bill Parcels. So I grew up with this whole idea,
you don't need to do all that talk less, say
say less with your mouth and say more with the
helmet and shoulder pads.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Right, So that was the kind of guy that I was.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I wasn't going to get into a back and forth.
I mean, I might get into some entanglements, but I'm
I'm no, I'm not doing all that.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Jump intimidating you trying to do any of that.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
No for what, well, I feel like safety, like, hey,
maybe you make a big hit and you're you say
something like you think that was bad?
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Wait, that's the next side. Do that again? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
So here, here's what I've said before, because I guess
my nemesis and the nemesis of so many differentive players,
was heinz War Oh?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Yes, would blindside hit you? Yes?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So I don't like the fact that how people would
call him tough and all of that, because I don't
perceive him as being tough then even now. So my
thing was when we played them on Monday Night football.
I remember because the year before in Pittsburgh, he got
me good.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I came back in the game and I shouldn't have,
but I serveled it on my calendar, and I'm like,
this may be a nice time for some little get back.
So that whole game, I mean I was. I saw
a red entire game, and anyone that was in a
different colored uniform, I'm giving.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Them the business.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
And there were a couple of times where I couldn't
get him, right.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I would get close. I just I couldn't get him.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So what I would do I would hit his teammates
and I would tell them that's for him.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
The entire game. Come on.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Out here.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I was going to my whole idea was I was
going to make them get so upset with hinds and
by hitting them, and then and then you know, the
skies opened up. He caught a little dig route and
just so happens, he was a couple of yards from me.
So I said, thank you heavily father, and DJ Williams
(27:08):
was going to tackle him, and I'm saying, DJ, no,
hold him off. I have a picture on my phone.
He's trying to sit his butt on the ground and
unfortunate for him, he never made it to the ground
before I got to him. And I even did and
even then, you could have been up for that, trust me.
(27:33):
That wasn't the game film, No, no, they would have
been deeping everything.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That's like I think Steve was miked up for his
hit on Yes he was. Yeah, there's some cool moments
you can capture like that.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That's cool, cool moments.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
But you know, I think this takes fans inside the game.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And when you look at you know, the the NFO.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Is being streamed on more women's services now than they
were in years past. Even I think on Netflix they
have a series called Quarterback. Then there was another one
called so It's it's taking you inside the game itself,
and more fans are intrigued by you know, what happens
after turnover? What do they say coming out of halftime?
(28:20):
And everyone is kind of hanging on every word. And
I'm not saying that you need to give out trade secrets,
protect those things, but give fans a little more insight
on what really goes on in the game and help
make up.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
The officials them up because.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
The coach yelling at him and they're trying to explain
to the coach, coach, here's the rule, and the coach
is yelling and screaming or whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I want to see that. But referees, I'll say this.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
They don't get as much respect as they deserve. Very
as a mom would say, the patience of job.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Yeah, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I did want to ask you one question, you know,
with the training camp coming up, I'm just always curious
about this take talking about taking fans inside the game
a little bit more. How much working out do players
do from when the off season program ends and training
camp begins, Because it feels like during the off season
program you've built yourself up into such great shape, then
(29:25):
you get this month off here before camp starts, So
like was your approach always to like try and stay
at that top top.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Let's see field it is different.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
See these guys get a chance to get a month off.
When we played here for coach Shanahan, the way the
schedule work, the idea was try to keep us here
for as long as we could because once you go
back down to sea level or below sea level, everything
that you.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Have worked for is now gone.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, so we would go and we would have like
a week or two weeks before we had to report
for training camp now quicker. We hated it, but at
the same time, it helped for us to come back
because we didn't have to get in shape to get
in shape. So that's the thing that we're going to
have to pay attention to when the team comes back,
because we're not going to see the team in pads
(30:14):
right away.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
It's going to be in in you know, T shirt
and short Olympics.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
To get guys acclimated back to the fact of being
in an altitude because if you don't do it that way,
that's how injuries take place. And you don't want guys
with soft tissue injuries because once you get a soft
tissue injury, you have that for the entire season.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, and they've done such a good job with bow
and everything, Bowl Lowry and just sort of preventing those things.
But you know, you see the players do all these
camps like tight end camp, pass rusher camp. You know,
I saw Courtland working out with all the wide receivers,
Shadow Josinko. You know, I just kind of curious, like
how hard do they work out during this time or
(30:53):
are they just hanging by the beach.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Well, you can tell the pros who the pros are.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
They come back in shape.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, you come back in.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Shape, and this means something to you because this is
not an amateur sport.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
This is your job. This is what you do for
a living.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's just like if you're automocanic, you're not working on
the garden.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I mean, you're trying to kind of build an engine.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
So you are your engine that drives your career. And
we'll find out, you know, come next week, which guys
put in that work and which guys didn't.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeh, some guys come back and they're huffing and puffing
those Hey.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Hey, that body language is brutal.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
When you see someone looking to the sideline and know
what comes to stuff you out and they get hands
on the waist and hands on the knees.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Is like you're playing a game of hokey pokey. That
first weight back is tough, it's a.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Grind and once again you have to be able to
mentally push through the pain.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, it's excited to get the team back here. So
all right, that's going to do it for us. For
Nick Ferguson, I am film Wine. You've been listening to
Broncos country tonight,
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