10-03-25 Hour 1 of Broncos Country Tonight

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ferguson just totally ripped him a style to see how
it is.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, to turn the mic on, Yeah, turned.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
On, didn't mean him ripping your stops that a grant.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I need your I need your help on this. My
eyes could be confused.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Me. Is that a black deep v V neck T shirt?

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Yes, but it fits him a lot better than it fits.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
We don't need all that.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
All that, the fact that his fits more snug in
the upper hemisphere and mine's more snug in the lower hemisphere,
doesn't matter. That that that shirt looks suspiciously familiar.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes, it should see your Your Ben's shirt is uh black,
it's dark as though he always wears his his shirt.
And I made a joke Monday night there were Monday
night football because before then came on with Jojo and I,
the skies were clear, right, it was. It was not
a cloud in the sky. The moment Visit are Bright

(00:53):
came on a spot, it just became dark and gloomy.
It did.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
It started rating like crazy the claws or swore kind
of like every day goes from me. It's weird. Yes,
it goes out of dark energy. Yeah, it's super happy to.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Just I didn't know if you like this was a
new look you're sporting, If you were trying to.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Like someone that you were very very it.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Was very odd pressed by No. I just happened to
grab this particular T shirt on my way out this evening,
So it has nothing to do with you. It's just
by coincidence, coincidence only that we happen to have on
black T shirts.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I wish I would have got the memo I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I know that's what we got to on the email
to put it in the group chat. Now, yes, you know,
it was just one day. I need everybody to show
up in black Phoenix T shirts for like Halloween or something,
and like just the whole building and like it looks
like a gap ad and hear or something.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
And well, you know we're going to be at the
beer fest. Uh, that's right next week, so I think Thursday.
You know, we can run it back with the black
shirts again. What about it. We'll do it well, black
V neck T shirt, there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I will attempt to find my muscles to get them
out of the locker put them on, so you know
we're matching that day so it doesn't look like the
Scarecrow and missus King.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I'm not sure which one's which.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
In that case, is there anyone who runs up on
us and sees us, you know, they get a signed
Benjamin all Bright autographed because you call him. You came
over and you said, you know what you guys are
wearing shirt?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Must be wearing a black V neck T shirt.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, you must be away signing some black V neck with.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
A black sharpie. Well that's how I would it anyways. Right,
so you can't tell because I don't want to drag
the value of the shirt.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
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Speaker 2 (02:54):
I believe, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
We'll talk a little bit about those Philadelphia Eagles. Of
course we got to pick them, uh as always in
a full six pack. A little bit later this game,
I had Rick Lewis try to get me confident last
night He raised my spirits.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I went home with a glimmer of optimism, and then.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
The betting public had to come out and bet this
line back out till like four and a half and
just crushed my dreams.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
What's the number now, it's like four and a half?
Now four and a half. Yeah, Well, you know what,
here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I would like to think that this twenty twenty five
Broncos team is up for the challenge and what bigger
game than this to actually make some noise and pretty
much submit everything that we heard about this team and offseason, right.
This is an opportunity for the Broncos to go out
in a very tough environment in Philly is very It's

(03:47):
a tough city. The people are tough, even though they
call the city of Brotherly Love. It is an opportunity
for the Broncos to beat a team that the Kancity
Chiefs cannot beat to begin this season. I yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Just don't know what to do with this game as
I as I look at this thing, and I want
to get into this with you because I look at
this this Philly defense, and they're playing a lot better
than the stats would indicate that Philly defense is playing
really really well. We all know what vix KP belove.
We all know what the Defango defense is. They play
a lot of bend, don't break. They force you to
eat up a lot of the clock, come down the
field and settle for field goals, right and and and

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they're really really good upfront. They're strong upfront. Uh, it's
the offense. As I watch, this is a tailor of
two different teams. The special teams in defense are phenomenal.
Then you go watch the offense and I'm like, what
are these idiots doing. They've got they've got two premier
caliber receivers that they basically ignore in favor of trying
to incondunct the ball down the field to the tight
ends and the running backs that that is what the

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and and then begging Jalen Hurts to make something happen
with his legs.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
That's the offense.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Occasionally they will throw a slant AJ Brown or or
advance to Smith's way, but that's really about it. They'll
take a deep shot with Smith every once in a while,
and that's really about it. This is the least I've
seen more complex high school offenses. Then, what's going on
with this thing? Are they baiting us all or am I.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Just am I out to lunch here?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well, no, you're not out there lunch. And once again,
it goes back to expectations and when you play well,
you set the bar really high. Just look at the
number of yards that Sakuon Barkley ran for last season,
almost breaking Eric Dickison, you know, single season rushing record,
but he didn't play against his former team, the Giants,
and look at his numbers. Now, the idea is that, well,

(05:28):
someone say, well, Saquon is falling off, And I don't
think it's a case of Saquon falling off. It's a
couple of things. One of those things been being you
have the new offensive coordinator, right, things are not operating
the way that they operated under Kellen Moore or Shane Steichen.
So that's the first part of it. The second thing

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is this team is coming off of Super Bowl, and
it's great that they want a Super Bowl, but what
happens is you end up playing more games, you end
up getting beat up over a long period of time,
and you have less time to recover. My Lotta, who
is the tackle for the ego, said earlier this week
that you know it took him some time like in

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OTAs for his body to somewhat get right from the
Super Bowl. So now when you're dealing with that and
you're having injuries, it makes it that much more difficult.
Think about the charges, the number of injuries that they've
had over offensive line, and how they look from when
they played the Broncos to play in the Giants.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, I just I don't know. This is a tale
of two. I went back and watched the tape a
end of today and I'm looking at this thing and
it's a tail of two different football teams. If you
look at the Philadelphia Eagles special teams and defense, you
I guess team's gonna blow us out.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
You look at their offense like, okay, we got a.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Chance, And the think about it is just like I
don't even think they've used Saquon in the ways that
they could so far.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
So I'm a little worried about this one.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
As I go back and forth, and I've tried to
inject hopeing to this thing, but as I keep going back,
I just I come away with we need the Broncos
to win this one because there's a there's a stretch
of games behind that that are pretty winnable that you
could probably take, you know, three out of four, four
out of five out of those that next stretch of games.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
You get this game on top of it.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
You three and two that stretch out there, you're seven,
eight and two, six and three, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
You're in the driver's seed at that point.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
And I get to this asn't a division game and
it's right before you going overseas and all that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
But I don't know, Man, I look at this thing
and I want it.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
That's probably why I'm sitting here struggling so bad because
I want this game. I want to beat the Eagles.
I want to beat the Super Bowl champs.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Well, I mean, do you want to beat them because
there's more of a economic value in it for you?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh, I'm not even getting into that. Like, I'm not
even getting to that.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
If I won't, I don't bet Broncos games just because
you know, I feel like that's an ethical But if
I were, I mean, I mean, just from a rooting standpoint,
from a turn the corner standpoint, from a let's get
to the playoffs and see what happens standpoint, you win
this game, and all of a sudden, the road is paved.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
You lose this game.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
And that that stretch all of a sudden, you need
two of those games. Just get back about five hundred
and then you need you know, and then you're so
I just.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
This is one of those games where I'm like, man,
this is an early season game that can get the
reputation that the Broncos have had under Sean Payton, which
is they can't beat good teams, that beat up on
bad teams, they beat up on middling teams. They can't
be good teams. Is a chance to get that out
of the way and put that behind us.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
This would be great, a great up between for the
Denver Broncos. And when I look at both teams as
it stands right now, the strength of both of those
teams are their defense. Yes, so is Vic fang Like.
When you look at this matchup, some would say, Okay,
it's bow Nicks versus Jalen Hurts. No it's not. Someone

(08:55):
would say that it's Vic Fangio versus Sean Payton. To
a certainly, yes it is. But overall I look at
this game as being a matchup between Vance Josup and
Vic Fangio because if your team, your defensive unit, can
get the necessary stops, get needed secks, get off the
field on third down. And oh, by the way, when

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you look at red zone defense, the Broncos are ranked
number one in the NFL. You know who's number.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Three, the Eagles. There you go, so you don't blitz.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
And they don't blitz, so you might be able to
matriculate the ball down the field. But does it seem
as though once you get inside the red zone, even
though that area gets tighter, so does the coverage and
the defensive.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Calls five six, six, nine zeros of text line. Yeah,
and that's what the premise of the Fancio defense. He
is almost send the least amount of people I need
to to get the quarterback. Everybody else is dropping back.
I'm trying to get you to make a mistake. Right,
We could keep the play in front of us and
we'll reset and we'll do it again. And whether they
do that out of a two shell, four shell, C six, whatever,

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it's usually middlefield open one of those. Well they do
that out of those different looks, but it's trying to
bait you. It's trying to keep it in front of you,
you're gonna have to come down the field slow, and
it's trying to bait you into reaching on something to
make it a mistake. That's what they're trying to do,
and we've seen Bo be a little susceptible to that
through the first four games so far. Even in the

(10:20):
Bengals blowout, he made a mistake trying to force that
ball in over there on the corner of the ends
out instead of just running it in.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, you know what, man, that was one of the
bigger issues that I saw coming out of Monday Night Football,
and I hadn't really heard anyone really talk that much
about it because it was a part of the Broncos
game that we hadn't seen around here in Wow, and
we hadn't seen it really consistently. That was Bo in
the center with the team running the ball to set

(10:50):
up the boot keep game now, and three of those
plays that we saw, two of them, you had Evan
Ingram open on the edge and Bo took a two
loans trying to decide where he wanted to go in
the progression. Right had he given it to Ingram early?
Ingram possibly turns the show to get up field, bridget

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tackle get a couple of yards and then the play
that you described was a bootleg to the right side,
and Bo seemed to hesitate. They know exactly what he
was going to do. Do I throw it? Do I
run it? And then end up being an interception in
that particular case. For me, the quicker you can make
a decision, the better it is. But for Bo, I

(11:32):
would tell him, if you get on that edge.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
And you're unsure, run it, yeah, run it, yeah, don't
put the ball in the air, put in its Just take
what they give you with you.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
That's how we scored.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, and that should be there's gonna be some of
that available. You go back to Vick's defense and the
teams that beat us, how they beat us. Well, the
Raiders had Vic Fangil's number, and who was the quarterback
of the.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Raiders at the time, Derek Carr.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
He had Nicola and Diny to the flats, and then
they'd hit the h they'd hit the power run game,
hit the power run game going downhill on you. So
I'm looking at this, I'm like, all right, is Sean
Payton patient enough to Nicola Diamond the flats and keep
that power run game going and get it down there, see, Ben.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I wish I could tell you with certainty.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yes, I feel like it's just like the Morgan Freeman
narration from Shawshenk.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I wish I could tell you that Andy fought the
good fight and one every time. I wish I could
tell you that.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I can't tell you that with a level of certainty
because here's what we know. This game on Sunday's going
to be a bunch of airs and flows, and each
team is going to have to establish the run. They
both have struggled this season trying to establish the run.
I know we look at the game against the Bengos
and say, okay, well the Broncos run game is back.
But to me, I'll say, pump your brakes on that.

(12:44):
It was great that they were able to do that.
I'm all for it, but we're talking about a Bengos
team that statistically was I flew below the radar. If
the Broncos can do that against this front four, to me,
now you would have earned a lot of respect from
a lot of teams. But you have to stay committed
and your run will get shut down at times, right

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but you but you can't just abandon it. You have
to come back to it because if you don't, now
you play Ryana Hans, the big Fangio, and he's gonna
tell Jordan Davis and you know, jay Le Carter don't
even worry about the run, just get up field. And
that's the worst position you could.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Put bo in. Yeah, I just I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
My frustration on this is settling in because I want
this one. I won't going up three and two. You
can beat the Jets in London, s four and two.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
You come back.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
You look at some of the games that they've got
ahead of the Giants account.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Those are games that are winnable.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
You know, you can get out to six and two,
you know, six and three, seven and two, that kind of.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Stuff, and then then it's yours. Then the table's yours
to run, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
And these guys, I mean, at that point, that level
of confidence when you get up to you know, to that,
I don't know, I just feel like this team could
could get on there.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
You get down and you're.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Going in there two and three, Well, then you got
to beat the Jets just to get back to five
undred and now you're looking at you know, you know,
four and three.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
By the time, that's not the same thing.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's not that same level of look, we look what
we're out to here kind of thing, not to.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Be Debbie down or being panic mode with what you said,
would you say that this is a must win game
for the Broncos, and I know.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Every game is it must win game. I thought last
week was more important. You can't lose to the teams.
You can't lose to the bad teams. You want to
beat the good teams, but you can't lose to the
bad teams, right, So I thought last week was more important,
especially because last week puts you back at five hundred.
There's a big difference between being two and two and
one and three.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Game. Okay, let's be totally honest. I hear what you're saying,
but that game was never in jeopardy for the obvious reasons.
But we all pick going into that game the Broncos winning.
Even though the scores look a little different, we all knew, right.
So for me, the game with the idea was don't
lose to this team. That you should be right part

(14:56):
of what you're saying, but also I say is a
must win game because when you look at the games
that you've played thus far, two games this season. You
lost right on last second field goals and the defense
did a great job of holding the opponents to less
than thirty points. You won those games, but it hasn't

(15:16):
really been that Marchie win of the season. This could
be your bitch smart win of the season to do
what you're talking about, propel them forward.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, I just want to stack those w's before you
get to the tough part of the schedule. You get
the Chiefs on November sixteenth, you get the Commanders on
Thursday Night Football November thirtieth, you got to travel to
the Raiders on the seventh.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
All that's not as bad.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Then you got the Packers coming here, a suddenly good
Jaguars team that we probably counted as a win in
the preseason. Now, of course, now you're kind of looking
at Yeah, followed by the Chiefs and Chargers to end
the season.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
But the back part of this schedule is tough, and
I just.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Think any wins that you can stack right now is
going to go a long way down the stretch.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Well, this win on Sunday would go a long way
because it would be a confidence booster. We know how
that Broncos locker room there was the early week with
two and Week three, after losing those close games, we
know how that locker room was. Guys are down. You
can see the body language, even though they continue to

(16:15):
talk about hey team and fight what you always do,
but we know that that was gut rinch. It was
a gut punch to lose those types of games. To
win a game like this, it would now boost their
love of confidence. Even though you went out and beat
i'll say a bad Cincinnati Bengals team, but to put
back to back wins together right and against this particular team,

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it would say so much to where this team has
the potential to get to. Now they're not there yet
because you know, I don't know if Malcolm Roach is
going to be back for this game.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Let's be back for the Giants game. That's what I
was told.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Okay, then you have green Law who was expected to
be back at some point, so it builds a lot
of confidence. We went in this being the Broncos into
a hospital environment, stole the win, ran back to Denver,
and we're gonna get healthier. So now that this kind
of revitalized the fan base, But just think the boost
of confidence it provides for all those guys in the

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locker room.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Well, that's what I'm getting at.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
And the other reason that I am is because something
that we haven't really talked about the back half of
the schedule, the last seven games on this schedule, the
most winnable game is probably the Raiders game, and that's
at Las Vegas. Right the last seven games out of
the schedule are the Chiefs come here, the Commanders come here,
We're at the Raiders, the Packers come here, the Jags
come here, and they're suddenly not a pushover.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Then we're at Kansas.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
City on Christmas four days later after that Jazz game,
and oh, by the way, we got the Chargers after
that to close the season. Out the last seven games
on this schedule, like the big there's on paper, You're like, okay,
there's one win here, and then we're hoping to get
a few.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Others, right and by that time, Rachid Rice would be back, SHEI.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Rice back, you know and all that.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, Kansas City's gonna be at full health by that
point in time. You know, the Raiders game, it's pretty
winnable right now, but that's at Las Vegas, so you
know that's gonna be tough. The Commanders coming here. Jack
Daniels will be back. He's coming back this week. He'll
be fine by by November thirtieth. You've got the Packers
coming here. They look really good. The Jags the three
and one, they just beat the Niners, who beat the Rams.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
And then you're at Kansas City and you got the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's a tough slate in the back end. Wins now, yes,
Dobbins Cook, Yeah, it doesn't get any easier. And you're
gonna need to build up your confidence in your run
game to know that you can do two things. Ben.
You can play the two minute offense, right and if
you need to get in a position to score. But

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more importantly, you can play a four minute offense. Now
you're playing keep away. Now you're playing stallball with the lead, right. Yep,
something we didn't really see too much last night with
a Thursday night football game. Yeah, that's really needed. But
being able to estabi, pablish JK. Dobbins and RJ. Harvey
and in the midst number of ways, man, that's going

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to be very value and important down a stretch.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Brocos Country and I get hit a break, we'll be back.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
In for this.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
A lot of texts come in here, but see you.
We'll get to that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
More.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
This game is feeling like when the Dolphins scored seventy two?

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Did the Dolphins score seventy to US seventy seventy? Okay?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Close?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
So Agles will not get seventy two, But I think
the game will not be close. Into admit it, but
their offense will get right. I hope I'm wrong. Yeah,
I mean, I don't know. I don't look at this
as a blowout. I'm still going to be a close,
close game. I just think this is going to be
a defensive slug fest. I think Nicholas right, we just

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talked about Fangio versus Vance Joseph. If I feel like
that this is going to be a fairly tight game,
a lot of field goals, with teams marching down the
field but not getting the end zone as much. It
might be the team that scores the touchdown wins the game,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Like it might be one of those kind of games.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Where you've got field goal kickers galore, and then the
team that scores the touchdown might win.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Philly's offense has been broke.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Their receivers. They can't seem to get it going.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I don't think this is the week you're getting going
either against their Tanner rileym all Side.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Something there is a possibility to get it going. And
that is if the current OC for the Eagles combine
what he saw from the game against the Chargers and
the Colts, because what we saw was quick passes, quarterback

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being able to deliver the ball on time and rhythm,
and in the case of the Chargers with Justin Herbert
being able to deliver precise passes. What defensive hands in
your face. If you tell me that Jalen Hurts can
do that, then once again, it's a strong possibility that
the Eagles can overcome the Broncos defense. But this is

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going to be a playoff type atmosphere type of game.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, And that's the things that Nate Jackson was here
with the Kelley Sports today.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
We're talking about that earlier.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
It's it's not as loud as it is in Seattle
or Kansas City, but it's a different type of intense
atmosphere there in Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, listen, they'll get it twisted. There's I can tell
you this personally from coaching with the forty nine ers.
There's nothing as loud as Kansas City and as Seattle,
but Philly they do get loud. So it's going to
be important for the Broncos who start off fast, pust

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them in the mouth, quiet the crowd because when we
look at the possibility of what could happen with the
Broncos offensive line versus the defensive line of the Eagles,
they already present matchup issues. You don't want to compound
that by having guys who I didn't hear the snap count.

(22:08):
We've seen it happen where teams practice and the guards
got to tap the center on the butt and then
that's when he knows when to snap the ball. Sometimes
as the defensive players, we can get a beat on that.
You got to coach in the box he's looking for
is he doing it on one thousand and two, one thousand,
When is he getting ready to do that? And then
now you pass that down to the defensive coach and

(22:29):
he gives that to the defensive line coach and now
they have a beat on what the snap count is
going to be and they're able to jump the snap count,
and that's the worst thing that you want. The Broncos
to deal with, because we've seen it with the Titans.
When you have penetration between the two tackles and over
the guards, it makes wife as a quarterback and getting
the run game started very difficult. Yeah, it does.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
So we worried it all about our offensive line. The
strengths of both these units are along the lines offense
and defense. Are we worried at all about the center,
typically the center on our offensive line?

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yes, I mean, I don't know how many way I
could say it. And once again, this is not taking
shots at any individual, but I'm just being real and
I'm not saying anything that you haven't seen for yourself
that you may think that it could be an issue.
Because once again, if you are having those issues at

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home Monday night football where the crowd is not making
any noise, now take that particular individual throwing him in
a ruckets crowd where it's going to be crowd noise,
not like Seattle, not like Kansas City, but crowd noise. Nonetheless,
can you keep your mental faculties about you snap the
ball and if you so happen to have a misqueue,

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can you.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Bounce back from it? I mean that is the question.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
And you know Honestly, the other part of this that
it can come down to, you know, I talked about
the team that score a touchdown might be the team
that gets to turnover. You know, you got two defenses
that feast on that kind of stuff. The Eagles have
made good work of their opportunities when they get turnovers,
and that's a part of the reason they're so good.
They're thirty second in the league in passing yardage. They're

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dead last in the league in passing yardage. They are
middle of the league, sixteenth in rushing yardage. They're getting
short fields. Whether it's special teams, whether it's turnovers, whatever
the case is, they're getting short fields and.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
They're taking advantage of it.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
And once again, this makes the situation with the Philadelphia
Eagles so bizarre. You're thinking, okay, well, they're not doing
great offensively far as pushing the ball down the field, right,
they're not doing great as far as creating turnovers. Defensively, now,
they only have five sacks. The Broncos have fifteen, So

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you're thinking, okay, well, looking at that odds on favor
that the Broncos would be able to create more positive
yards defensively for themselves. And turn the ball over in
advantageous positions for their offense. But means that'd be true
because when you look at how the Eagles are winning games,
I think the games against I want to say, the

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last three games they have been outgained by their opponents
passing yards and rushing yards in the fourth quarter. But
there's the games h ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
It is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
But that's I mean, that's taking advantage of your opportunities, right, So,
I mean that's that's one of those things that is
as we look at it, you get more and more.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I get more and.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
More looking at this thing frustrated because I'm like, how
do you stop that?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Which is not.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Something that I mean, it's not sticky, something that's not
game to get because you know, there's those turnovers are random.
Those things are random. But for the Eagles, it's not random.
They've just managed, you know, they've they've managed to find
a way to be scrappy with those kinds of things.
It's like last year when you watch Kansas City and
every week you're like, oh, this is the week they're
gonna get knocked off.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
These guys are you know, they but they found ways
to win football game.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
So Kansas City went fifteen to two, les you should
have been probably sixteen and one, except they put their
backups in in the final week against US.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
They got all the way to the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
This Eagles team sort of reminds me of that they're
not nearly as good on offense as they were previously,
and yet they're digging deep and find a ways to win.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
And that's the scary part about this. When I was
driving in I was talking to someone I know who
is a former GM in the league, and we were
talking about this particular game, and we both agree that
the scary part about Philadelphia. Say what you want to
say about him, and there's been a lot of negative

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things said. They're finding ways to win ball games, and
that's about Sakuon Barkley hitting his drive, No, Devonte Smith,
Dallas Goddard, right, AJ Brown. So imagine what happens once
their offense start to come together. It makes the team
a very scary team.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
And that's I mean, that's where I'm at right now.
I'm looking at this thing and I'm like, I want
to win so bad i can taste it. And then
I look at this team, I'm like, Okay, how are
we going to do this. I don't have confidence in
the areas that I need to have confidence. Okay, So
what areas that we can shut down their run that
want two punch of Barkley and Hurts and then on
the other side of the ball that our coach will
stick with the ways to beat that, which is, you know,

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hitting the swing pass in the flats to the backs
and letting the power run game wear them down.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Well, coach Patan is going to have to not call
not just call run plays, but he's going to have
to call plays to really get the running backs involve.
And what I would like to see Ben not not
just kind of trying to run through the teeth and
the strength of that Eagles defense. Put those guys on

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the perimeter run some of those off tackle plays. Because
when I think about guy like Derrick Henry and he's
been struggling load to especially with ball security, but whether
it was with the Titans or the Baltimore Ravens, they
will always run off time. Who plays to give him
somewhat of a benefit as a runner, saying I know

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my player is better than your defensive player. Create those
one on one matchups to put Harvey and Dobbins in
a situation where it's one cut and just once you
run through or run by this one particular defender. Now
that's a large game, and I'm not talking about being
the plays doesn't have to be sixteen yards six yards. Yeah,

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now that puts you in second and short.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Right, put yourself in advantageous positions.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
And you know, I just I guess I don't have
the faith in us and our coaching staff necessarily.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
To continue to They just got through a game where
they were doing that. I don't have the faith that
they're going to come back.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
And other than just kind of being down with Grant,
I mean with Ben and watching the game. The food
is fantastic. I'm not the state that's That's one of
the things that I love to get. But they have
a ray a variety of different things, man, and it
gets hard to kind of choose, especially off that brush menu.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
I've been there for a bunch a couple of times,
so you that place is good, man, love the whole
vibe of it.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yes, yeah, it is. Uh, it is quite delicious.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
The weather's nice, that patio with a view of downtown.
Dinner in the mountains.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
They got a little bit of something for everybody.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
You get this kind of the saloon vibe on the
opening floor, little restaurant saloon vibe. On the second floor,
you got the pool tables. You got us up there
watching the watching the game. On the third floor they
got kind of more of a you know, a downtown
bar field. Then you got like the upper upper decks there. Well, yeah,
you can get out there on the deck and uh
and and sit there look at the view.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
So also, I think who had it last time we
were there, this drink It looked I think Brad had it.
It was like it was called something sunrise right right,
So so I had the sunrise without the tequila.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
So hey, sometimes those mocktails days better than the real thing.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yes, yes, it was quite the least show.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah there's some They got plenty of good stuff. But
then they got deals too.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
They get the art of deals. It was a halt
rice or six six not whatever, anyway, they got they
got the art of deals and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
There.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
You just go drink card of tequila while you're there
at the burn down, and it is uh uh, it
is any fantastic time. I recommend you guys come on
out and obviously we'll be down there about eleven, so
it'll be more of a brunch and they do a
great brunch menu.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
By the way, the French toast. Let's see, he's saying,
I don't eat bread.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Like that anymore.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
I know I don't either pick up that I do.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
I'm there be good, you know, I might do it
this Sunday star myself so I can have that that bread.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I'm just saying, hey, you know, anyway, come on down,
meet us down at the burn down. Hopefully you guys
got a chance to uh to win that.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
We got plenty of stuff I want to get to here,
uh in just a few We've got our NFL pick
them coming up next, and then we've got the cracks
from Sports Illustrated at the bottom of the hour. We
don't have the hund get at the w NBA drama
real quickly, Well yeah, okay, so really quick and for me,
I don't know about you, but we've seen this kind

(31:14):
of labor dispute happened in multiple sports, and this so happens.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
It's w n B A and the FECI A Collier
who plays for the Minnesota Link Man hell of a
player and one of the w NBA's better players. But
she came out and did something that you typically don't
see athletes, two more or less athletes and a w
n b A. She came and put them out on blasts.
And when you think about I think your name is Ingelberg,

(31:42):
Kathy Ingelbert, Kathy Ingelbert. She disclosed the conversation that she
had with Kathy the commissioner of the w n b A,
and what she said about Kaitlyn Clark, right, like Kaitlan
Clark should be grateful phrasing for giving her the platform,

(32:03):
but Caitlin Clark had an opportunity to go join the
big three, right. I think ice Cube offered a five
million dollars.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Which is way more than she makes the WNBA.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yes, so I don't understand this why you know individuals
well you know, well, let me take that back. I
do understand why they do this because they're being cheapest
hell right, pay the talent, right and not obviously you're
not gonna pay them like you play. You pay the
guys from the NBA. But these women are playing, they're balling.

(32:34):
They've escalated the game to you know, big numbers. Maybe
not a male professional sport but still, look, I don't
know about you. You probably don't watch that much, but
I know I watched and one of the teams I
love to watch it's it's a Thefesia Collier and in
the Minnesota Lynx, but also the Las Vegas Aces. I
love to watch them Super team play.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, and I think so, I just think that the
WNBS do did a bad job of a mark the
personalities be explaining why that the money is what it
is right now. They're on the losing side of that,
and it should be very simple. We just don't make
money like this is the first time we're making money.
So I for making money. Let's find ways to market
the personalities that are making this money and continue to
work on it that way and will continue to bring

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more money in which means we can pay everybody else.
And so it just it feels like there's a gigantic
disparity between what the players want in terms of how
to expand this league and what they want in terms
of money. Any WNBA people running the WNBA in terms
of how we get there.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Well, once again, you know, being a player that played
a professional sport for over a decade, I know what
you have to deal with as far as injuries and
insurance and all those things. So just because they plan
in WNBA, that doesn't necessarily mean that they don't get injuries.
The injuries that they have to deal with that are
long term injuries, they should have proper health care to

(33:52):
help them with those injuries. Because I don't care who
you are driving around here in the metro Denver area,
the most expensive thing for any of us is healthcare.
If someone's able to reduce that, cause it makes life
so much easy. Yeah easier?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well, yeah then it does. We come back, we're gonna
get into our NFL pickup segment. You guys, listen to
Broncos Country Night. I don't get wait