April 3, 2026 • 33 mins
Leland Conway in for Lou on all the fraud going on in California.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
There's so much fraud in California.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
How much fraud he is there?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Apparently, top prosecutor Bill Saley in California says we don't
even have enough prosecutors to prosecute it.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, it's a lou Penrose show.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Leland Conway sitting in for the man who is on vacation.
He texted me earlier today and he's really really bummed.
So for those of you guys that listen to Lou,
I'm just gonna give you his vacation update. He texted
me this earlier today. He's super bummed. Apparently there's no
alcohol served legally in the Bahamas on Good Friday, So
(00:36):
now he's bummed finnerty so well, but I will say
this about Lou and this is why Lou and I
get along really, really well. He put in parentheses legally,
which means he's probably already found a speakeasy, just saying,
just saying.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's your update on the man, the myth, the legend,
Louke Penrose. You're stuck with me for a couple hours here.
I'll be back with you on Monday. Bro is out
of the country for a while. I'll be also also
with you next Thursday. Mark Larson's going to fill in
on Tuesday and Wednesday, so we'll get you covered.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
We got you covered. It's all good.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
There's so much fraud in California that apparently there aren't
enough prosecutors to actually to actually prosecute it. But yesterday
there was a series of arrests that started in a
in a case that is just this one couple or
this this these eight arrests. I'm sorry it was one couple.
This this is a wild story. Wait till I tell
you this. But this one arrest group with eight people
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in it. It wasn't one group. It was eight different operations,
but that had fifty million dollars in fraud in it.
Fifty million dollars in fraud. The acting Attorney General, since
you know Pam Bondi got fired, Todd Blanche said, it's
so much. We're focusing on it. We're focusing on California.
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We're focusing on Gavin Newsom right now in.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
This Department of Justice, pour all of our hard and
soul in the frog cases all over this country for
the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, the eye of Sauron is officially on California now.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Bill A.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Sale, who was California's top prosecutor, actually went on Fox
News earlier today and he described some of what was
happening with this coach.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
It was going on for years, and all of these
schemes kind of operate very similarly.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They get a.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Hospice license from the state of California. You cannot build
medicare for hospice without being licensed by the state of California.
Those licenses are issued with no checking, no vetting. In fact,
this couple has a criminal record, so they couldn't get
the license, so they just put it under their daughter's name.
But they continue to operate the hospice under their daughter's name,
and they build medicare for over four million dollars and
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no one did anything about it until we arrested them
yesterday morning. And we did that in coordination with the
Task Force and the Vice President and this was our
first opening, big mass arrest under that new task force.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, so this is let me just gribe what they
were doing. This is one couple.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Okay, So these people were paying people who were not
terminally ill to act terminally ill so they could scoop
up this fraudulent money. And they were they got four
million dollars before they got caught because so they had
a criminal record that's apparently the only thing that California checks.
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So they couldn't get the license themselves. They slid it
under their daughter's name. Nobody ever bothered to check that,
and away we go. But for his part, Governor Gavin Newsom,
who has the nation's highest hairjail bill, said, oh, I've
been watching fraud really really closely my entire administration.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
We did a moratorium on new hospice program two hundred
and eighty. We shuddered if we got after this for
years and years and years. We want an open hand,
on a close fist. We absolutely are here to be
a partner to go after waste, fraud and abuse. No
onans denying these, but let's also not deny this is
purely political.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
What a dufus? For real? Like, look at this.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I came across the story this morning in the California Post.
Gavin Newsom spends twenty million dollars on consultants in struggling
Joj's inspired plan to cut waste. I kid you not,
this is this is how it's almost comical.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Like I don't even know. I don't even know how.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
To like put this into words. I am a talk
show host. I don't know how to put this into words.
It's almost comical. Gavin Newsom spent twenty million dollars on
consultants to find waste and they didn't find themselves. Like
it's like going to a psychic and it's like this
you didn't see Like you didn't see this. I how
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this is real. Gavin Newsom has paid upwards of twenty
million to employ a consulting firm that employs his former
cabinet secretary to eliminate spending, but the effort has come
up well short of the goal, as state lawmakers blasted
the move. Newsom, who signed an executive order to cut
spinning in the state a lah Elon Musk's Department of
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Government Efficiency.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Gavin doesn't have a single original thought in his head.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He sees somebody do something that's popular, he criticizes them.
Then he does the same thing and claims it's his idea.
You know that kind of guy. You know that kind
of guy. You know the kind of guy Gavin Newsom is.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
He was. Everybody hated him in high school. You know
what I mean, you know what I'm talking about. That guy,
he was that guy.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
He'll criticize the other guy that has the good idea,
make him sound awful, steal the idea, and then pretend
it's his own. That is what Gavin Newsom does. He
signed an executive That's the other thing too, is he
thinks like I can sign an executive order, like I'm
gonna I'm an executive order that my poo don't stink,
and then my poo won't stink, like he thinks it
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actually works because he's I'm an executive order. Homelessness go away,
go go away, like rain, rain go away, and then
we won't have rain, or rain rain come back and
we'll have rain because he had an executive order that
it should rain. They say the fraud, and I'll get
to this in just a minute, but they say the
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fraud in California. It it will make what we found
in Minnesota pale in comparison, like seem like Junior League,
like somebody just stealing a few boxes of Girl Scout cookies.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's what they say.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's They say it is in the hundreds of billions
of dollars in California, which means our entire deficit that
we're trying to tax billionaires for could be eaten up
simply by fraud. Simply by fraud. California contracted with one
of the world's largest consulting firms for up to twenty
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million in an effort to cut two billion and spending
from the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, Social Services and
healthcare Services by twenty eight to twenty nine. Did they
notice that we spent nine billion in the last couple
of years on illegal immigrant healthcare for free?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Like did they notice that?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Like maybe that's possibly waste, fraud abuse, Like maybe that
they didn't notice they didn't notice that. But the group
which hired former Knewsome Cabinet Secretary and Department of Finance
director Anna Madasantos is now expected to only find less
than half of that in savings. According to legislative analysis.
That number may even go down later. And again, we
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think the fraud, I'll give you the receipts on this
in a minute, but we think the fraud in California
is like one hundred billion.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
It's north of one hundred billion.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And Gavin was just going to find two billion in waste,
and they can't even find one billion in waste and
we have like everyone's like, well, we must be running efficiently, right, right,
there's no waste, there's no fraud, there's no abuse.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Anyway, I've got some more audio from Bill A. Saley
and more from the governor as well. As we continue here.
I am Leland Conway and for Lou Penrose. Hit me
up on those talkbacks. Go to the live feed for
COG on the Irot radio app click that red microphone.
If you've been out of town or just tuning in.
Brand new lineup on co Go. It's Lou Penrose from
three to five. Now, I am on from five to seven,
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except of course this week and then and then Mark
Larson takes over at seven o'clock. Mark, by the way,
has a great guest tonight. He has actually one of
the former members of the Apollo missions that is gonna
come on and have some really interesting things to say
about the Artemis two.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I hope he has an update on whether or not
they got the toilet.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Working on the mission, because that that's a stinky situation. Anyway,
we'll continue hit that talk back. Go to the live
feed for COG on the Iart radio app. Click it
and you can put in thirty seconds on this. Do
you think we will ever find all of the fraud
and abuse? And what do you think that difference will
be in your life if we could clean California government up.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I can tell you what it'll be. I'll get to
that next.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Leland Conway News Radio six hundred Coco Live on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Twenty twenty one. We did a moratorium on New Hospice
program two and eighty. We shuddered. We've been after this
for years and years and years. We want an open hand,
not a close fist. We absolutely are here to be
a partner to go after waste, fraud and abuse. No
one's denying these issues, but let's also not deny this
is purely political.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
No one's denying these issues, but let's also not deny
this is purely political. Is he saying that we have
fraud but it's political to go after it. Yes, that's
exactly what he's saying. That is the governor. Bill is Saley,
top prosecutor in California, responded.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
To the governments of the governor not good enough.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Not good enough.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
They've not taken fraud seriously for over a decade. Here
in California, They've let people out of prisons, they've decriminalized it.
I call him the fraud King for a reason. He
has reigned over billions and billions of dollars of fraud.
Whether we're investigating homeless fraud, add fraud, and now hospice fraud.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's going to be.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Into the hundreds of billions of dollars under.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
One hundred plural hundredrids his watch.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Remember, none of this fraud could happen unless California issued
these licenses. California is responsible for administering hospice programs, licensing
these doctors, and they're supposed to have passed regulations by
January first of this year that we're called by the
otter in California said Californya does not have sufficient regulations
to crack down on fraud. He's refusing to implement those
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regulations because he doesn't want to own the problem.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
We're going to do our job.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You're going to see a lot more fraud. We're going
to work hand in hand with this task force, and
I think it's going to be in the hundreds of
billions eventually.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You know what's interesting to me about this is that.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's weird to hear somebody say California doesn't have enough regulations.
Right by the way, I'd love to hear from you,
and there are no regulations on this. Just go to
the live feed for Cogo on the iHeartRadio app, click
the red microphone and jump into conversation. But I find
it ironic that there's a statement here, and this is
a truth statement, that we don't have enough regulation. We
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regulate everything else, but not this. Like somehow or another,
we let eighteen thousand illegal immigrants, many of whom can't
read English, road signs on the highway, giving them a
CDL license so that they could drive big, multi thousand
pound trucks on public highways. But you can't rebuild your
house in the Palisades if your house burned down in
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that fire. That was most likely caused by a lack
of paying attention to the things that they were supposed
to be doing, and also caused by over regulation of
the environment.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So all of that stuff comes together.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
We got all these regulations on people just doing things
that people are normally doing right, just living their lives right.
The kind of car you drive, the house you live in,
all that kind of stuff We've driven up the price
of housing by forty percent simply with regulations, but we
don't seem to check and see if somebody is stealing
the money. And I guess my question on all of
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that comes back to this. I I don't I kind
of don't want to go there. I feel kind of
weird going there, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Well,
I'm here. I'm going to pose it as a question
rather than an accusation. Is there a scenario or is there?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
This would be my question to you.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Hit that live feed, go to the live feed of
Coco on the iHeart radio app, click the red microphone.
Is there a scenario to you where where this is?
Where they don't where they truly weren't aware of what
they were doing when they did this. So, in other words,
my question is this incompetence or corruption? And I know
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it's somewhat of a rhetorical question because it's probably both.
But how do you have so many regulations that you
can't rebuild a house in the Palisades after a fire?
How do you have so many regulations that forty of
the cost of a home in California is tied to
regulations but you don't have any regulations that keep illegal
immigrants from driving commercial trucks on the road when they
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can't read the signs. And you don't have regulations that
stop people with a criminal record from putting a license
in the name of their daughter, paying people to act
as if they have terminal illnesses, and putting on hostpice
care that's fake to the tune of fifty million dollars,
Like how how can you argue that you're aware of
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one issue and not the other that you're you're so
hyper aware that if we rebuild that house in the
Palisades too quick, the the orange headed, black eyed toad
of the smelf minnow will somehow not have enough reading
grounds because of the foundation of your new house and
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the soil disrupted.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We're so hyper focused.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
On that, but we don't see that it's not a
good idea to do this other stuff, like we'll pay
nine billion dollars for illegal immigrant healthcare. We'll let illegal
immigrants drive semi trucks on the road. We will let
people come in and fake hospice and fake daycares and
fake healthcare. Will let that happen by the millions and
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billions of dollars. But we're worried about somebody rebuilding their
house in the palisades. How what's the chair? This is
my question, what's the charitable explanation for that? Because I
don't see it. I don't I'm not saying I'm not
alleging that Govin Newsom is involved in the fraud, like personally,
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like he's in his hands or personally in it. Although
I think he's involved in some fraud. I think he's
enriched himself. I think he and his wife have enriched
themselves utilizing levers they have the power to pull as governor.
I do believe that whether it rises to the level
of criminal activity, I don't know, but I do believe
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they've abused their power to enrich themselves. I'm not saying
he's actually but I just wonder if like you look
the other way because you're guilty of it too, Like,
what are the reasons why why he why he would
not know that this is like why he would not
see this as the problem that it is. And again
he claims that he sees it as the problem that
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he is. And then he goes and this is the
thing that blows my mind. He goes and hires a
guy for or a consultancy for twenty million dollars to
find waste? Like, does that is there any does that
feel tone deaf to you? Like, I'm gonna why don't
you if you're just a good leader, why can't you
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spot the fraud? You're you're the executive. You're the CEO
of the state of California. If you're the governor of California,
you're the CEO of this stay to California. You should
know how to run a freaking state. I we'll talk
about this later, but I think it's interesting. The city
of San Diego, for instance, let me give you an example.
City of San Diego is thinking about tapping into the
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money that's coming into the city owned golf courses. They
apparently have like a fifty five million dollars just sitting around,
which is interesting because there's a lot of different angles
to that story, but let's just let's just focus on
this one. Instead of raiding the money that the city
golf courses have raised because they've run efficiently and they're
providing the services we ask them to provide and they're
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making a profit, instead of raiding that money, why don't
they ask them, Hey, how are you running your program?
How is it you got to a surplus and we
can't seem to find any money to fill the potholes?
Like that would be that would be my question. If
I were the executive in charge, I'd be like, how
did you do that? Not let me have it? It
would be no, let me know, how did you do that?
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I you know, Gavin literally sued to stop Doge. He
literally went on social media, made fun of Doge, trolled
Elon Musk, ran Elon Musk out of the state of California,
by the way, then comes back and tries to pretend
like he cares about waste for ad abuse, and then
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goes and spends twenty million of tax dollars to hire
a consultant company to tell him what he should already
know if he's actually capable of being a CEO of
a state, So like the person who runs the state
of California should be so highly qualified because it is
the fifth largest economy in the world.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Anyway, I got a.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Little bit more audio will dig into this. I'd love
to hear from you. We got some top backs coming
in on the topic. Go to the live feed for
cog on the iHeartRadio App. If we found two hundred
billion dollars in fraud, how do you think that would
change your life? Seriously, how would that change your life?
You think it's all above you, beyond you? Or might
that trickle down to you? We'll get to that next.
Leland Conway. Hey, lupenros show, Leland Conway sitting in for you.
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Speaker 2 (18:45):
He comes up at seventh tonight.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
He's got a really cool guest, a former former astronaut
that walked on the Moon like. Actually he's one of
Charlie Duke is his name. He's one of only twelve
people in human history to have walked on the Moon.
He was Apollo six Lunar Module pilot and still the
youngest human to walk on the Moon. He's going to
be ninety one in October, which reminds us how long
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it been since we've been there, which is pretty cool.
But I'm messing with him a little bit because Mark
posted a picture that is purported to be from Artemis
two of the Earth from space on his Instagram at
Mark Larsa Radio. So I went on there and I
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posted probably a fake picture. He hasn't responded yet Finnerdy,
so I don't know if he's that's just messing with him.
So anyway, yeah, he'll respond at some point. But last
night he poo pooed. I played this audio from Tim Burchett,
the representative from Tennessee, and he was talking about space.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
On an issue or ecuse me two weeks ago, and
it would have said to hear thy this this country
would have come under plot.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I think if.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
That was Tim Burchett talking to News Nation, uh after
Matt gets said that we had an alien breeding program
where we were breeding space aliens with human beings so
we could communicate with space aliens. Now, Birchett didn't say
that was what was happening. He just simply said, well,
I'll just say that I've been briefed on things that
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would set your hair on fire if you knew what
it was. And now Finnerty the Hill dot Com has
reported on this. Repped Tim Burchett of Tennessee on Wednesday
discussed his knowledge surrounding aliens, telling a Newsmax post that
he would be up at night if the things that
he had seen were released. He said, quote, I've been
briefed by just about every alphabet agency out there, and
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I'll tell you this, if they would release the things
I've seen, you'd.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Stay up at night. My only question was is this okay?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
When he saw the things he's talking about would make
our hair stand on end.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yesess was any alcohol or in.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Well, let's ask Penrose, who's on vacation in the Bahamas,
and he just texted me he's keeping me abreast of
his alcohol shenanigans because he told me earlier today. There
apparently is no alcohol served legally in the Bahamas on
good Friday. And then I said, well, I told everybody
that you found to speakeasy and you were consuming illegally.
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He said, close to accurate. You can still buy wine
at the restaurant, cork it and go home. Most expensive
good Friday I've ever had in my life. Thank god
he has risen on Sunday, because I'll be broke by Monday.
Oh my god, that's hilarious. All right, let's get back
into the topic. We're discussing the fraud in California. The
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top top prosecutor in california's Bill As Salee, and he
told Fox News today that there's so much fraud in
California that the governor is really he's on the side
of covering this up.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Is kind of what he was insinuating response to the governor,
not good enough.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Not good enough. They've not taken fraud seriously for over
a decade here in California. They've let people out of prisons,
they've decriminalized it. I call him the fraud King for
a reason. He has reigned over billions and billions of
dollars of fraud, whether we're investigating homeless fraud, add fraud,
and now hospice fraud. It's going to be into the
hundreds of billions of dollars under his watch. Remember, none
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of this fraud could happen unless California issued these licenses.
California is responsible for administering hospice programs, licensing these doctors,
and they're supposed to have passed regulations by January first
of this year that were called by the otter in
California said Californya does not have sufficient regulations to crack
down on fraud. He's refusing to implement those regulations because
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he doesn't want to own the problem.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And again he's talking about these arrests yesterday, eight arrests
in the LA area, and they were basically fifty million
dollars in fraud. One particular couple got four million dollars.
They had a criminal record, they put the license for
hospice care to their daughter's name. California doesn't check that stuff,
and so they collected four million dollars, and they were
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paying kickbacks to people to fake and act like they
had terminal illnesses when they didn't, and so they got
away with this fraud. So I asked you if we
can find because what Bill A. Saley said is it's
in the hundreds of billions. That's what he said, is
how much fraud is in California. If we can find it,
would it would it change your life? And I think
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it would because a lot of So we're talking about
three categories here, waste and then fraud, and then abuse.
So obviously waste is just ridiculous overhead, like the forty
percent of cost of a California home is tied up
in regulations. That's that's waste. It's it's abuse. It's waste
that is putting government bureaucracies and people in bureaucracies that
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don't need those jobs, don't need to be done. We
don't need those regulations, we don't need that overhead. It's
all waste.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Okay. Then there's the fraud that is where.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We don't check things and we let people get away
with things.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And then there's the abuse.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
And that's what I believe Gavin is doing, where he
abuses the system, perhaps legally, perhaps illegally, I don't know,
but he abuses the system to enrich himself and his buddies.
His buddies, right, So they go and they hire this
consultant firm out of Boston that has hired his former
member of his cabinets to look for ways that they
can't find any ways, but we paid them twenty million dollars.
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Let's go to the talk packs. We've got a couple
here that I want to get into. We'll start affinity
with the one about driving a diesel truck.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
This work is if they make money. They don't work
if they don't make money. So it's all about money.
I have a truck, it's a diesel. I have California
restrictions to get it small.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
But you never had to do.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
It's mug.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Now they're charging me for that.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
You go out of state, say Idaho, it's twenty five
bucks versus one thousand bucks spirit California. It's all about money. Competents, yes, cookery, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
So he's answering the question I said, is it crookery?
Has it? Are they? Is it?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Is it corruption or is it incompetence? And he's basically
saying it's both.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
And I agree.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
You can do the same thing in Idaho for twenty
five bucks that you do here, which is the dumb
regulations that government government put in place. But you can
do it for twenty five bucks that you do here.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
For a thousand. All right.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Another one here about being civil servants.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
They're supposed to be civil servants. They get a paycheck
from whatever that seat polls, whether it's the mayor, the governor, senator.
So for them to enrich themselves, it's so.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Immoral, so unjust.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
So the reason they get in office is case sat
in their pockets, sat.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
In their stands.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Look all good and smart, but in reality they're supposed
to be serving us.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I totally agree with them.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I feel like we ought to put like NASCAR has
all those emblems on the cars and on the racing
suits for the drivers. I feel like that's how congress
people should have to dress, and governors too. Gavin Newsom
should have to walk in in a jacket that has
all of the benefactors of his corrupt dealings listed on
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it so we know who he's sponsored by. One more
here a question about accountability.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Hey, Naila had a question for you. Do you think
anybody here in California is going to be held accountable
for their fraud? The reason why I asked is because
nobody in Minnesota has been, you know, lockdown behind bars,
held accountable, pay the price. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, Okay, so some people have been been locked up, right,
Like there were eight people that were arrested in LA
today or yesterday morning. There there have been some in Minnesota.
But there's a very important distinction, and I think this
caller brings up a really important point what he's referring to.
I believe I don't want to put words in your mouth, dude,
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but I think this is what you mean is that
the people who oversaw this and let the criminals get
away with it, will they be held accountable? Right, because
there are arrests happening of the people who perpetrated the fraud.
But the point that I'm making, the broader point I'm making,
is how can how can they have engaged in such
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egregious fraud without the quote unquote powers that be.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Deliberately looking away?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I mean, that was and I think that's what the
caller is talking about because like in Minnesota, Hey, you know,
Knucklehead is still the governor, right, Knucklehead point two point.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Zero is still the lieutenant governor. Right.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
These people, the knuckleheads in the squad are still in Congress. Right.
These people knew that this fraud was going on. There's
evidence now emerging in that they might have been participants
in allowing it to happen.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And here's here's my boy, how much time do I have?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You know what, I'm going to get into this next
because I was gonna do something else, but I'm gonna
get into this next. I'm gonna give you my theory
on what's being exposed and the long term effects by
what's happening. So to answer the listener's question, will anybody
be held accountable? I don't know. I hope so, but
I don't know. But I will tell you what I
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think has been exposed. I'll do that next. All right,
here's what happened. Leland Conway sitting in for Lou Penrose.
By the way, all new lineup. If you just joined us,
or maybe you were out of town, you're.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Like, hey, what works later?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Goo?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Slater's the man, and he decided, Hey, look, I've got
a lot of stuff going on. I got a lot
of things cooking, and I want to take some time
to spend with my family. So he he left his
hour behind. Well, that meant we had to shake up
the lineup a little bit and move things around a
little bit to cover all of that. So Lou Penrose
is now three to five, but he went scampering off
(29:04):
on vacation and he's in the Bahamas right now, apparently
illegally drinking alcohol. On Good Friday, then I moved to
five to seven, and we'll be with you through that
time period today. And then you've got my buddy Mark Larson,
who I am currently trolling on social media, and he
hasn't seemed to figure that out yet. I know he's
doing some fill in radio up in Sacramento, so that
(29:25):
might be why he hasn't seen it. Finnerty, but I'm
trolling him because he's big into the space stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
He's on the Air and Space Museum board and tonight
has a really great guest, Charlie Duke, who was one
of the twelve people to ever walk on the Moon.
And I like to mess with Mark by floating the
theory that we never actually landed on the Moon, just
for fun. And I just posted it on his Instagram
and his Facebook, and I haven't heard back.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I know he's gonna like me, will he's gonna like me.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Hear back from him about that. He's gonna light me
up at some points. So we're just messing with him
just having a little good time. So the topic this
hour was the fraud that Bill is Saley, the top
prosecutor in California, described earlier today to Fox News some
of what was going on when they arrested eight people.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yes, going on for years, and all of these schemes
kind of operate very similarly. They get a hospice license
from the state of California. You cannot build medicare for
hospice without being licensed by the state of California. Those
licenses are issued with no checking, no vetting. In fact,
this couple has a criminal record, so they couldn't get
the license, so they just put it under their daughter's name.
But they continued to operate the hospice under their daughter's name,
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and they build medicare for over four million dollars and
no one did anything about it until we arrested them
yesterday morning. And we did that in coordination with the
Task Force and the Vice President and this was our
first opening, big mass arrest under that new task Force.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And then Governor Gavin Newsom responded and said, hey, we've
been on this issue.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Twenty twenty one, we did a moratorium on new hospice
program two and eighty.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
He shuddered.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
We've been after this for years and years and years.
We want an open hand, not a closed fist. We
absolutely what is that for here to be a partner
to go after a waste fraud? And if you denying
these issues, it says words, this is purely political.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
We want to open hand, not a closed fist on
the fraud issue, like give me some of my fraud?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Like, what the hell does that even mean? I don't
understand it.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
But as Saley went on to say, the governor's wrong,
he hasn't been looking at this, he hasn't been taking
it serious enough. And it's hundreds of billions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
In response to the governor, not good enough, not good enough.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
They've not taken.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Fraud seriously for over a decade here in California. They've
left people out of prisons, they've decriminalized it. I call
him the fraud King for a reason. He has reigned
over billions and billions of dollars of fraud. Whether we're
investigating homeless fraud, add fraud, and now hospice fraud, it's
going to be into the hundreds of billions of dollars
under his watch. Remember, none of this fraud could happen
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unless California issued these licenses. California is responsible for administering
hospice programs, licensing these doctors.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And they weren't checking it. So here, let me see
if I could tile this together in two minutes. Kay,
So here's what I think was happening. Let's go back
to President Potato in the last term, and let's talk
about how we had wide open borders. So let's talk
about how California specifically facilitated that in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
By the way, these two things were tied together.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Let's talk about NGOs. NGOs were a big part of
this money was getting shuffled around. Money would go to
the NGOs and government grants, they would facilitate left wing
government ideology. Then money would come out of those caffers
back into in in the form of personal donations from
exorbitant salaries of those that run the NGOs, back to
the same politicians that gave the NGOs their money, and
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we had a big circle of fraud. It's awesome circle
of fraud. Meanwhile, we had people coming into the country illegally.
We were shipping them around the country and many of
those people, not all of them, not a bunch of them,
not most of them, but a large number of them
were engaged in some of this fraud that was taking place,
and it's probably happening here in California. Do but they
look the other way on the fraud. What are they doing?
(33:00):
This was all about cheating and elections. It was about
specific constituencies getting specific carve outs, getting specific cutouts, and
it was about fraud that was allowed to happen. And
we looked the other way because you're gonna get all
of the folks in your in your group there to
vote for us. That's what was happening in Minnesota that
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I believe is part of what's happening here.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I think this fraud and it's not going to go away.
I think powerful.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
People looked the other way because it facilitated their ability
to to stay at the top of the heap. They
they got money, they got power, and I think that's
what was behind it all. Right, coming up next hour,
check this out, Secretary of War Pete Hegsit says no
more personal weapon gun ban on.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Military basis. How will that affect us here?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Camp Pendleton, the naval base and other places around California.
That's next Leland Conway in for Lupenos.
There's so much fraud in California.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
How much fraud he is there?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Apparently, top prosecutor Bill Saley in California says we don't
even have enough prosecutors to prosecute it.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, it's a lou Penrose show.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Leland Conway sitting in for the man who is on vacation.
He texted me earlier today and he's really really bummed.
So for those of you guys that listen to Lou,
I'm just gonna give you his vacation update. He texted
me this earlier today. He's super bummed. Apparently there's no
alcohol served legally in the Bahamas on Good Friday, So
(00:36):
now he's bummed finnerty so well, but I will say
this about Lou and this is why Lou and I
get along really, really well. He put in parentheses legally,
which means he's probably already found a speakeasy, just saying,
just saying.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That's your update on the man, the myth, the legend,
Louke Penrose. You're stuck with me for a couple hours here.
I'll be back with you on Monday. Bro is out
of the country for a while. I'll be also also
with you next Thursday. Mark Larson's going to fill in
on Tuesday and Wednesday, so we'll get you covered.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
We got you covered. It's all good.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
There's so much fraud in California that apparently there aren't
enough prosecutors to actually to actually prosecute it. But yesterday
there was a series of arrests that started in a
in a case that is just this one couple or
this this these eight arrests. I'm sorry it was one couple.
This this is a wild story. Wait till I tell
you this. But this one arrest group with eight people
(01:35):
in it. It wasn't one group. It was eight different operations,
but that had fifty million dollars in fraud in it.
Fifty million dollars in fraud. The acting Attorney General, since
you know Pam Bondi got fired, Todd Blanche said, it's
so much. We're focusing on it. We're focusing on California.
(01:56):
We're focusing on Gavin Newsom right now in.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
This Department of Justice, pour all of our hard and
soul in the frog cases all over this country for
the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, the eye of Sauron is officially on California now.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Bill A.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Sale, who was California's top prosecutor, actually went on Fox
News earlier today and he described some of what was
happening with this coach.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
It was going on for years, and all of these
schemes kind of operate very similarly.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They get a.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Hospice license from the state of California. You cannot build
medicare for hospice without being licensed by the state of California.
Those licenses are issued with no checking, no vetting. In fact,
this couple has a criminal record, so they couldn't get
the license, so they just put it under their daughter's name.
But they continue to operate the hospice under their daughter's name,
and they build medicare for over four million dollars and
(02:46):
no one did anything about it until we arrested them
yesterday morning. And we did that in coordination with the
Task Force and the Vice President and this was our
first opening, big mass arrest under that new task force.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, so this is let me just gribe what they
were doing. This is one couple.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Okay, So these people were paying people who were not
terminally ill to act terminally ill so they could scoop
up this fraudulent money. And they were they got four
million dollars before they got caught because so they had
a criminal record that's apparently the only thing that California checks.
(03:22):
So they couldn't get the license themselves. They slid it
under their daughter's name. Nobody ever bothered to check that,
and away we go. But for his part, Governor Gavin Newsom,
who has the nation's highest hairjail bill, said, oh, I've
been watching fraud really really closely my entire administration.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
We did a moratorium on new hospice program two hundred
and eighty. We shuddered if we got after this for
years and years and years. We want an open hand,
on a close fist. We absolutely are here to be
a partner to go after waste, fraud and abuse. No
onans denying these, but let's also not deny this is
purely political.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
What a dufus? For real? Like, look at this.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I came across the story this morning in the California Post.
Gavin Newsom spends twenty million dollars on consultants in struggling
Joj's inspired plan to cut waste. I kid you not,
this is this is how it's almost comical.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Like I don't even know. I don't even know how.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
To like put this into words. I am a talk
show host. I don't know how to put this into words.
It's almost comical. Gavin Newsom spent twenty million dollars on
consultants to find waste and they didn't find themselves. Like
it's like going to a psychic and it's like this
you didn't see Like you didn't see this. I how
(04:49):
this is real. Gavin Newsom has paid upwards of twenty
million to employ a consulting firm that employs his former
cabinet secretary to eliminate spending, but the effort has come
up well short of the goal, as state lawmakers blasted
the move. Newsom, who signed an executive order to cut
spinning in the state a lah Elon Musk's Department of
(05:10):
Government Efficiency.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Gavin doesn't have a single original thought in his head.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He sees somebody do something that's popular, he criticizes them.
Then he does the same thing and claims it's his idea.
You know that kind of guy. You know that kind
of guy. You know the kind of guy Gavin Newsom is.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
He was. Everybody hated him in high school. You know
what I mean, you know what I'm talking about. That guy,
he was that guy.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
He'll criticize the other guy that has the good idea,
make him sound awful, steal the idea, and then pretend
it's his own. That is what Gavin Newsom does. He
signed an executive That's the other thing too, is he
thinks like I can sign an executive order, like I'm
gonna I'm an executive order that my poo don't stink,
and then my poo won't stink, like he thinks it
(05:55):
actually works because he's I'm an executive order. Homelessness go away,
go go away, like rain, rain go away, and then
we won't have rain, or rain rain come back and
we'll have rain because he had an executive order that
it should rain. They say the fraud, and I'll get
to this in just a minute, but they say the
(06:16):
fraud in California. It it will make what we found
in Minnesota pale in comparison, like seem like Junior League,
like somebody just stealing a few boxes of Girl Scout cookies.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's what they say.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It's They say it is in the hundreds of billions
of dollars in California, which means our entire deficit that
we're trying to tax billionaires for could be eaten up
simply by fraud. Simply by fraud. California contracted with one
of the world's largest consulting firms for up to twenty
(06:54):
million in an effort to cut two billion and spending
from the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, Social Services and
healthcare Services by twenty eight to twenty nine. Did they
notice that we spent nine billion in the last couple
of years on illegal immigrant healthcare for free?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Like did they notice that?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Like maybe that's possibly waste, fraud abuse, Like maybe that
they didn't notice they didn't notice that. But the group
which hired former Knewsome Cabinet Secretary and Department of Finance
director Anna Madasantos is now expected to only find less
than half of that in savings. According to legislative analysis.
That number may even go down later. And again, we
(07:33):
think the fraud, I'll give you the receipts on this
in a minute, but we think the fraud in California
is like one hundred billion.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
It's north of one hundred billion.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And Gavin was just going to find two billion in waste,
and they can't even find one billion in waste and
we have like everyone's like, well, we must be running efficiently, right, right,
there's no waste, there's no fraud, there's no abuse.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Anyway, I've got some more audio from Bill A. Saley
and more from the governor as well. As we continue here.
I am Leland Conway and for Lou Penrose. Hit me
up on those talkbacks. Go to the live feed for
COG on the Irot radio app click that red microphone.
If you've been out of town or just tuning in.
Brand new lineup on co Go. It's Lou Penrose from
three to five. Now, I am on from five to seven,
(08:24):
except of course this week and then and then Mark
Larson takes over at seven o'clock. Mark, by the way,
has a great guest tonight. He has actually one of
the former members of the Apollo missions that is gonna
come on and have some really interesting things to say
about the Artemis two.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I hope he has an update on whether or not
they got the toilet.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Working on the mission, because that that's a stinky situation. Anyway,
we'll continue hit that talk back. Go to the live
feed for COG on the Iart radio app. Click it
and you can put in thirty seconds on this. Do
you think we will ever find all of the fraud
and abuse? And what do you think that difference will
be in your life if we could clean California government up.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I can tell you what it'll be. I'll get to
that next.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Leland Conway News Radio six hundred Coco Live on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Twenty twenty one. We did a moratorium on New Hospice
program two and eighty. We shuddered. We've been after this
for years and years and years. We want an open hand,
not a close fist. We absolutely are here to be
a partner to go after waste, fraud and abuse. No
one's denying these issues, but let's also not deny this
is purely political.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
No one's denying these issues, but let's also not deny
this is purely political. Is he saying that we have
fraud but it's political to go after it. Yes, that's
exactly what he's saying. That is the governor. Bill is Saley,
top prosecutor in California, responded.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
To the governments of the governor not good enough.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Not good enough.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
They've not taken fraud seriously for over a decade. Here
in California, They've let people out of prisons, they've decriminalized it.
I call him the fraud King for a reason. He
has reigned over billions and billions of dollars of fraud.
Whether we're investigating homeless fraud, add fraud, and now hospice fraud.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's going to be.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Into the hundreds of billions of dollars under.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
One hundred plural hundredrids his watch.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Remember, none of this fraud could happen unless California issued
these licenses. California is responsible for administering hospice programs, licensing
these doctors, and they're supposed to have passed regulations by
January first of this year that we're called by the
otter in California said Californya does not have sufficient regulations
to crack down on fraud. He's refusing to implement those
(10:45):
regulations because he doesn't want to own the problem.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
We're going to do our job.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You're going to see a lot more fraud. We're going
to work hand in hand with this task force, and
I think it's going to be in the hundreds of
billions eventually.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You know what's interesting to me about this is that.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's weird to hear somebody say California doesn't have enough regulations.
Right by the way, I'd love to hear from you,
and there are no regulations on this. Just go to
the live feed for Cogo on the iHeartRadio app, click
the red microphone and jump into conversation. But I find
it ironic that there's a statement here, and this is
a truth statement, that we don't have enough regulation. We
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regulate everything else, but not this. Like somehow or another,
we let eighteen thousand illegal immigrants, many of whom can't
read English, road signs on the highway, giving them a
CDL license so that they could drive big, multi thousand
pound trucks on public highways. But you can't rebuild your
house in the Palisades if your house burned down in
(11:41):
that fire. That was most likely caused by a lack
of paying attention to the things that they were supposed
to be doing, and also caused by over regulation of
the environment.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So all of that stuff comes together.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
We got all these regulations on people just doing things
that people are normally doing right, just living their lives right.
The kind of car you drive, the house you live in,
all that kind of stuff We've driven up the price
of housing by forty percent simply with regulations, but we
don't seem to check and see if somebody is stealing
the money. And I guess my question on all of
(12:14):
that comes back to this. I I don't I kind
of don't want to go there. I feel kind of
weird going there, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Well,
I'm here. I'm going to pose it as a question
rather than an accusation. Is there a scenario or is there?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
This would be my question to you.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Hit that live feed, go to the live feed of
Coco on the iHeart radio app, click the red microphone.
Is there a scenario to you where where this is?
Where they don't where they truly weren't aware of what
they were doing when they did this. So, in other words,
my question is this incompetence or corruption? And I know
(12:58):
it's somewhat of a rhetorical question because it's probably both.
But how do you have so many regulations that you
can't rebuild a house in the Palisades after a fire?
How do you have so many regulations that forty of
the cost of a home in California is tied to
regulations but you don't have any regulations that keep illegal
immigrants from driving commercial trucks on the road when they
(13:19):
can't read the signs. And you don't have regulations that
stop people with a criminal record from putting a license
in the name of their daughter, paying people to act
as if they have terminal illnesses, and putting on hostpice
care that's fake to the tune of fifty million dollars,
Like how how can you argue that you're aware of
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one issue and not the other that you're you're so
hyper aware that if we rebuild that house in the
Palisades too quick, the the orange headed, black eyed toad
of the smelf minnow will somehow not have enough reading
grounds because of the foundation of your new house and
(14:04):
the soil disrupted.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We're so hyper focused.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
On that, but we don't see that it's not a
good idea to do this other stuff, like we'll pay
nine billion dollars for illegal immigrant healthcare. We'll let illegal
immigrants drive semi trucks on the road. We will let
people come in and fake hospice and fake daycares and
fake healthcare. Will let that happen by the millions and
(14:30):
billions of dollars. But we're worried about somebody rebuilding their
house in the palisades. How what's the chair? This is
my question, what's the charitable explanation for that? Because I
don't see it. I don't I'm not saying I'm not
alleging that Govin Newsom is involved in the fraud, like personally,
(14:51):
like he's in his hands or personally in it. Although
I think he's involved in some fraud. I think he's
enriched himself. I think he and his wife have enriched
themselves utilizing levers they have the power to pull as governor.
I do believe that whether it rises to the level
of criminal activity, I don't know, but I do believe
(15:12):
they've abused their power to enrich themselves. I'm not saying
he's actually but I just wonder if like you look
the other way because you're guilty of it too, Like,
what are the reasons why why he why he would
not know that this is like why he would not
see this as the problem that it is. And again
he claims that he sees it as the problem that
(15:32):
he is. And then he goes and this is the
thing that blows my mind. He goes and hires a
guy for or a consultancy for twenty million dollars to
find waste? Like, does that is there any does that
feel tone deaf to you? Like, I'm gonna why don't
you if you're just a good leader, why can't you
(15:52):
spot the fraud? You're you're the executive. You're the CEO
of the state of California. If you're the governor of California,
you're the CEO of this stay to California. You should
know how to run a freaking state. I we'll talk
about this later, but I think it's interesting. The city
of San Diego, for instance, let me give you an example.
City of San Diego is thinking about tapping into the
(16:13):
money that's coming into the city owned golf courses. They
apparently have like a fifty five million dollars just sitting around,
which is interesting because there's a lot of different angles
to that story, but let's just let's just focus on
this one. Instead of raiding the money that the city
golf courses have raised because they've run efficiently and they're
providing the services we ask them to provide and they're
(16:34):
making a profit, instead of raiding that money, why don't
they ask them, Hey, how are you running your program?
How is it you got to a surplus and we
can't seem to find any money to fill the potholes?
Like that would be that would be my question. If
I were the executive in charge, I'd be like, how
did you do that? Not let me have it? It
would be no, let me know, how did you do that?
(16:56):
I you know, Gavin literally sued to stop Doge. He
literally went on social media, made fun of Doge, trolled
Elon Musk, ran Elon Musk out of the state of California,
by the way, then comes back and tries to pretend
like he cares about waste for ad abuse, and then
(17:18):
goes and spends twenty million of tax dollars to hire
a consultant company to tell him what he should already
know if he's actually capable of being a CEO of
a state, So like the person who runs the state
of California should be so highly qualified because it is
the fifth largest economy in the world.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Anyway, I got a.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Little bit more audio will dig into this. I'd love
to hear from you. We got some top backs coming
in on the topic. Go to the live feed for
cog on the iHeartRadio App. If we found two hundred
billion dollars in fraud, how do you think that would
change your life? Seriously, how would that change your life?
You think it's all above you, beyond you? Or might
that trickle down to you? We'll get to that next.
Leland Conway. Hey, lupenros show, Leland Conway sitting in for you.
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(18:43):
with my buddy with Mark Larson.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
He comes up at seventh tonight.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
He's got a really cool guest, a former former astronaut
that walked on the Moon like. Actually he's one of
Charlie Duke is his name. He's one of only twelve
people in human history to have walked on the Moon.
He was Apollo six Lunar Module pilot and still the
youngest human to walk on the Moon. He's going to
be ninety one in October, which reminds us how long
(19:06):
it been since we've been there, which is pretty cool.
But I'm messing with him a little bit because Mark
posted a picture that is purported to be from Artemis
two of the Earth from space on his Instagram at
Mark Larsa Radio. So I went on there and I
(19:26):
posted probably a fake picture. He hasn't responded yet Finnerdy,
so I don't know if he's that's just messing with him.
So anyway, yeah, he'll respond at some point. But last
night he poo pooed. I played this audio from Tim Burchett,
the representative from Tennessee, and he was talking about space.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
On an issue or ecuse me two weeks ago, and
it would have said to hear thy this this country
would have come under plot.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I think if.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
That was Tim Burchett talking to News Nation, uh after
Matt gets said that we had an alien breeding program
where we were breeding space aliens with human beings so
we could communicate with space aliens. Now, Birchett didn't say
that was what was happening. He just simply said, well,
I'll just say that I've been briefed on things that
(20:22):
would set your hair on fire if you knew what
it was. And now Finnerty the Hill dot Com has
reported on this. Repped Tim Burchett of Tennessee on Wednesday
discussed his knowledge surrounding aliens, telling a Newsmax post that
he would be up at night if the things that
he had seen were released. He said, quote, I've been
briefed by just about every alphabet agency out there, and
(20:43):
I'll tell you this, if they would release the things
I've seen, you'd.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Stay up at night. My only question was is this okay?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
When he saw the things he's talking about would make
our hair stand on end.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yesess was any alcohol or in.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Well, let's ask Penrose, who's on vacation in the Bahamas,
and he just texted me he's keeping me abreast of
his alcohol shenanigans because he told me earlier today. There
apparently is no alcohol served legally in the Bahamas on
good Friday. And then I said, well, I told everybody
that you found to speakeasy and you were consuming illegally.
(21:20):
He said, close to accurate. You can still buy wine
at the restaurant, cork it and go home. Most expensive
good Friday I've ever had in my life. Thank god
he has risen on Sunday, because I'll be broke by Monday.
Oh my god, that's hilarious. All right, let's get back
into the topic. We're discussing the fraud in California. The
(21:41):
top top prosecutor in california's Bill As Salee, and he
told Fox News today that there's so much fraud in
California that the governor is really he's on the side
of covering this up.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Is kind of what he was insinuating response to the governor,
not good enough.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Not good enough. They've not taken fraud seriously for over
a decade here in California. They've let people out of prisons,
they've decriminalized it. I call him the fraud King for
a reason. He has reigned over billions and billions of
dollars of fraud, whether we're investigating homeless fraud, add fraud,
and now hospice fraud. It's going to be into the
hundreds of billions of dollars under his watch. Remember, none
(22:21):
of this fraud could happen unless California issued these licenses.
California is responsible for administering hospice programs, licensing these doctors,
and they're supposed to have passed regulations by January first
of this year that were called by the otter in
California said Californya does not have sufficient regulations to crack
down on fraud. He's refusing to implement those regulations because
(22:42):
he doesn't want to own the problem.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And again he's talking about these arrests yesterday, eight arrests
in the LA area, and they were basically fifty million
dollars in fraud. One particular couple got four million dollars.
They had a criminal record, they put the license for
hospice care to their daughter's name. California doesn't check that stuff,
and so they collected four million dollars, and they were
(23:06):
paying kickbacks to people to fake and act like they
had terminal illnesses when they didn't, and so they got
away with this fraud. So I asked you if we
can find because what Bill A. Saley said is it's
in the hundreds of billions. That's what he said, is
how much fraud is in California. If we can find it,
would it would it change your life? And I think
(23:28):
it would because a lot of So we're talking about
three categories here, waste and then fraud, and then abuse.
So obviously waste is just ridiculous overhead, like the forty
percent of cost of a California home is tied up
in regulations. That's that's waste. It's it's abuse. It's waste
that is putting government bureaucracies and people in bureaucracies that
(23:51):
don't need those jobs, don't need to be done. We
don't need those regulations, we don't need that overhead. It's
all waste.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Okay. Then there's the fraud that is where.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We don't check things and we let people get away
with things.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And then there's the abuse.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
And that's what I believe Gavin is doing, where he
abuses the system, perhaps legally, perhaps illegally, I don't know,
but he abuses the system to enrich himself and his buddies.
His buddies, right, So they go and they hire this
consultant firm out of Boston that has hired his former
member of his cabinets to look for ways that they
can't find any ways, but we paid them twenty million dollars.
(24:24):
Let's go to the talk packs. We've got a couple
here that I want to get into. We'll start affinity
with the one about driving a diesel truck.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
This work is if they make money. They don't work
if they don't make money. So it's all about money.
I have a truck, it's a diesel. I have California
restrictions to get it small.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
But you never had to do.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
It's mug.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Now they're charging me for that.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
You go out of state, say Idaho, it's twenty five
bucks versus one thousand bucks spirit California. It's all about money. Competents, yes, cookery, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
So he's answering the question I said, is it crookery?
Has it? Are they? Is it?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Is it corruption or is it incompetence? And he's basically
saying it's both.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
And I agree.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
You can do the same thing in Idaho for twenty
five bucks that you do here, which is the dumb
regulations that government government put in place. But you can
do it for twenty five bucks that you do here.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
For a thousand. All right.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Another one here about being civil servants.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
They're supposed to be civil servants. They get a paycheck
from whatever that seat polls, whether it's the mayor, the governor, senator.
So for them to enrich themselves, it's so.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
Immoral, so unjust.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
So the reason they get in office is case sat
in their pockets, sat.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
In their stands.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Look all good and smart, but in reality they're supposed
to be serving us.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I totally agree with them.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I feel like we ought to put like NASCAR has
all those emblems on the cars and on the racing
suits for the drivers. I feel like that's how congress
people should have to dress, and governors too. Gavin Newsom
should have to walk in in a jacket that has
all of the benefactors of his corrupt dealings listed on
(26:19):
it so we know who he's sponsored by. One more
here a question about accountability.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Hey, Naila had a question for you. Do you think
anybody here in California is going to be held accountable
for their fraud? The reason why I asked is because
nobody in Minnesota has been, you know, lockdown behind bars,
held accountable, pay the price. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, Okay, so some people have been been locked up, right,
Like there were eight people that were arrested in LA
today or yesterday morning. There there have been some in Minnesota.
But there's a very important distinction, and I think this
caller brings up a really important point what he's referring to.
I believe I don't want to put words in your mouth, dude,
(27:10):
but I think this is what you mean is that
the people who oversaw this and let the criminals get
away with it, will they be held accountable? Right, because
there are arrests happening of the people who perpetrated the fraud.
But the point that I'm making, the broader point I'm making,
is how can how can they have engaged in such
(27:31):
egregious fraud without the quote unquote powers that be.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Deliberately looking away?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I mean, that was and I think that's what the
caller is talking about because like in Minnesota, Hey, you know,
Knucklehead is still the governor, right, Knucklehead point two point.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Zero is still the lieutenant governor. Right.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
These people, the knuckleheads in the squad are still in Congress. Right.
These people knew that this fraud was going on. There's
evidence now emerging in that they might have been participants
in allowing it to happen.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And here's here's my boy, how much time do I have?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You know what, I'm going to get into this next
because I was gonna do something else, but I'm gonna
get into this next. I'm gonna give you my theory
on what's being exposed and the long term effects by
what's happening. So to answer the listener's question, will anybody
be held accountable? I don't know. I hope so, but
I don't know. But I will tell you what I
(28:31):
think has been exposed. I'll do that next. All right,
here's what happened. Leland Conway sitting in for Lou Penrose.
By the way, all new lineup. If you just joined us,
or maybe you were out of town, you're.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Like, hey, what works later?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Goo?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Slater's the man, and he decided, Hey, look, I've got
a lot of stuff going on. I got a lot
of things cooking, and I want to take some time
to spend with my family. So he he left his
hour behind. Well, that meant we had to shake up
the lineup a little bit and move things around a
little bit to cover all of that. So Lou Penrose
is now three to five, but he went scampering off
(29:04):
on vacation and he's in the Bahamas right now, apparently
illegally drinking alcohol. On Good Friday, then I moved to
five to seven, and we'll be with you through that
time period today. And then you've got my buddy Mark Larson,
who I am currently trolling on social media, and he
hasn't seemed to figure that out yet. I know he's
doing some fill in radio up in Sacramento, so that
(29:25):
might be why he hasn't seen it. Finnerty, but I'm
trolling him because he's big into the space stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
He's on the Air and Space Museum board and tonight
has a really great guest, Charlie Duke, who was one
of the twelve people to ever walk on the Moon.
And I like to mess with Mark by floating the
theory that we never actually landed on the Moon, just
for fun. And I just posted it on his Instagram
and his Facebook, and I haven't heard back.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I know he's gonna like me, will he's gonna like me.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Hear back from him about that. He's gonna light me
up at some points. So we're just messing with him
just having a little good time. So the topic this
hour was the fraud that Bill is Saley, the top
prosecutor in California, described earlier today to Fox News some
of what was going on when they arrested eight people.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yes, going on for years, and all of these schemes
kind of operate very similarly. They get a hospice license
from the state of California. You cannot build medicare for
hospice without being licensed by the state of California. Those
licenses are issued with no checking, no vetting. In fact,
this couple has a criminal record, so they couldn't get
the license, so they just put it under their daughter's name.
But they continued to operate the hospice under their daughter's name,
(30:36):
and they build medicare for over four million dollars and
no one did anything about it until we arrested them
yesterday morning. And we did that in coordination with the
Task Force and the Vice President and this was our
first opening, big mass arrest under that new task Force.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And then Governor Gavin Newsom responded and said, hey, we've
been on this issue.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Twenty twenty one, we did a moratorium on new hospice
program two and eighty.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
He shuddered.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
We've been after this for years and years and years.
We want an open hand, not a closed fist. We
absolutely what is that for here to be a partner
to go after a waste fraud? And if you denying
these issues, it says words, this is purely political.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
We want to open hand, not a closed fist on
the fraud issue, like give me some of my fraud?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Like, what the hell does that even mean? I don't
understand it.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
But as Saley went on to say, the governor's wrong,
he hasn't been looking at this, he hasn't been taking
it serious enough. And it's hundreds of billions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
In response to the governor, not good enough, not good enough.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
They've not taken.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Fraud seriously for over a decade here in California. They've
left people out of prisons, they've decriminalized it. I call
him the fraud King for a reason. He has reigned
over billions and billions of dollars of fraud. Whether we're
investigating homeless fraud, add fraud, and now hospice fraud, it's
going to be into the hundreds of billions of dollars
under his watch. Remember, none of this fraud could happen
(31:55):
unless California issued these licenses. California is responsible for administering
hospice programs, licensing these doctors.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And they weren't checking it. So here, let me see
if I could tile this together in two minutes. Kay,
So here's what I think was happening. Let's go back
to President Potato in the last term, and let's talk
about how we had wide open borders. So let's talk
about how California specifically facilitated that in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
By the way, these two things were tied together.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Let's talk about NGOs. NGOs were a big part of
this money was getting shuffled around. Money would go to
the NGOs and government grants, they would facilitate left wing
government ideology. Then money would come out of those caffers
back into in in the form of personal donations from
exorbitant salaries of those that run the NGOs, back to
the same politicians that gave the NGOs their money, and
(32:39):
we had a big circle of fraud. It's awesome circle
of fraud. Meanwhile, we had people coming into the country illegally.
We were shipping them around the country and many of
those people, not all of them, not a bunch of them,
not most of them, but a large number of them
were engaged in some of this fraud that was taking place,
and it's probably happening here in California. Do but they
look the other way on the fraud. What are they doing?
(33:00):
This was all about cheating and elections. It was about
specific constituencies getting specific carve outs, getting specific cutouts, and
it was about fraud that was allowed to happen. And
we looked the other way because you're gonna get all
of the folks in your in your group there to
vote for us. That's what was happening in Minnesota that
(33:21):
I believe is part of what's happening here.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I think this fraud and it's not going to go away.
I think powerful.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
People looked the other way because it facilitated their ability
to to stay at the top of the heap. They
they got money, they got power, and I think that's
what was behind it all. Right, coming up next hour,
check this out, Secretary of War Pete Hegsit says no
more personal weapon gun ban on.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Military basis. How will that affect us here?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Camp Pendleton, the naval base and other places around California.
That's next Leland Conway in for Lupenos.
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