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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The views and opinions expressed in the following programmer those
of the speaker and don't necessarily represent those of the station.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's staff management or ownership. Good morning, you're finding out
Peter Poe gold on Peter.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Leon not the poet goals.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're on the air with Karamir Baciocho and we are
going to get right to her and her project with
a home, which is hope on a mission. But before
we did that, we're going to go right through the
pobelic goal for her weekly poem prayer Incannotation goal. Let
it roll all right?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I was waiting for that goal. Let it roll, okay.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
This piece is entitled Courage, a shift in mind, creating
peace amongst the broken pieces, Resolute, leaning into it, fearlessly,
becoming your own sun by day, the stars in the
moon by night, navigating the darkness, weightless in the galaxy,
freeing yourself from pain, the burden from carrying heavy locks

(00:59):
and chained courage.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
You need a lot of courage. Have courage, and Kara,
I think that I mispronounce your name. Did I say Bacchi?
What did I say? I said it wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
When you go in America, people say batioki in Italy,
they say book or there's no right way to say it.
There's no wrong way to say it.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
You just make your face WinCE and I did I
apologize for that. So maybe you've been on the show recently,
in the last couple of months, but maybe if you
give us a sense of what your organization is, which
is Hope on a Mission, which spelled home in the

(01:46):
various things.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
With H acronym is h O a M. And it's
a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
And it's very meaningful. It's it's a new way to
be home. If you could explain to the listeners what
the organist on.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
A Mission is a street ministry with the task with
the job of meeting people where they are and loving
them no matter what. Restoring dignity with love and grace
is our tagline, and we do that by meeting people
at our table. We set up tables three nights and
one morning per week. We serve a hot buffet meal

(02:25):
and then we also provide a bag to take away
for a second meal later on, and we make sure
that people have appropriate clothing for the season and that
they know that they're loved.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I love that you know. I love when you said,
meeting people where they are is so often when you
have organizations that want to provide services, they have a
tendency to meet people where they want to take them, right,
So it's not meeting them at.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
All, you know, it's like, hey, we're over here, come
on or not. This is where if you want what
we got, show up over here now, right.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
And so meeting people where they are is a completely
different approach, you know, to providing service for others.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yes, yeah, and we started ten years ago. Actually this
July twenty sixth we celebrated ten years. We're actually celebrating
our tenure anniversary at our annual fundraising event.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
And that's when when is that coming up?

Speaker 4 (03:28):
The Homecoming Galla? And that's h O a m. Homecoming
Gala is October second this year at Locust Grove from
five thirty to seven thirty pm. Tickets are available on
our website.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
And what's your website?

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Hope on a Mission dot rj all one word And I.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Noticed you said when you're referred to Hope on a Mission,
you we called.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
It a ministry, street ministry.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
The street ministry. Yeah, but the word ministry was surprising
to me because my senses it's a five oh one,
it's a non profit organization act. And is it explicitly
a religious organization or I know you have a certainly

(04:18):
religious vibe and a religious sensibility, but is the thing
basically a religious organization legally?

Speaker 4 (04:27):
So we are a five o' one C three nonprofit organization.
I stay away from the word religious because I am
not religious. I do not follow a set of rules.
I'm not a rule follower. Don't do that really well,
and it's worked out really well for me once I

(04:49):
got into lined up with God's will for my life.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I faithfully believe in God as my creator. I faith
believe in us christis my Lord and Savior. I believe
that the Holy Spirit isn't dwelling and guides my steps.
As a minister, what does minister mean? When you minister
to someone, you can administer medical help, you can administer

(05:15):
so as a ministry, I'm not shoving a thought process
or a faith or anything down anyone's throat. I'm ministering
to people who are hurting.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
I love that. Okay, Yes, indeed I like that too.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
So is.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Correct? Yes? Yes, yeah, there's no indoctrination, no dot I
don't whatever. Yeah, whoever you are and whatever you believe,
I love you, period. You don't have to believe like
I believe. Oh it works for me really really well.
I hope that you find something that works for you too.
I have a really great community of people who believe

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like I believe. They call themselves Christians or followers of Jesus,
but they also have never told me how I need
to have a relationship with God or Jesus or who
I what I'm supposed to look like in my behavior
day to day as a person who claims to believe
in Jesus.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Okay, so you can believe in Jesus, you're saying without
having a list of all Zolari items like expectations, the Trinity,
the virgin birth, the walking on water, it's status of
the Blessed Mother. So you're a Christian without additional dogma.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
I tried to say Christian either, Well, I mean, I guess.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
When you when you said you believe in Jesus.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Is I'm a christ follower, But I try to stay
away from the word Christians. A lot of especially in
the media these days, there's a lot of you know, megachurches,
and there's lots of you know, people team tend to
forget that human beings are leading human beings, and human

(07:12):
beings fall right. We're all fallible, every single one of us.
And when we rise someone above ourselves and we look
up to them, then we put an undue burden on
their character, and sometimes that can be more pressure than
a human has the capacity to handle. And then they
make decisions to relieve themselves of that pressure that look

(07:34):
like bad decisions.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
That everything around them falls. Yeah, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Mean even those that supposedly stood with them in faith
and supposedly supported them, suddenly will betray that person in
that state.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
You know, Peter, who betrayed him.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
An example of that. The last one you're on the
show was a couple months ago. I asked you the
question you like people who are homeless? And I did
it very deliberately because I think so many people who are,
you know, middle class people, we have a hard time

(08:17):
seeing the humanity and people who are not middle class.
So I asked you that, and you threw your shoulders
back a little bit and you said, I love them, okay.
And I was surprised by your answer, and the reason
I was so surprised and the reason it was so
meaningful to me is I've been Catholical of my life

(08:40):
for seventy five years, trying to get to seventy six.
And I think one of the things about the Catholic
Church that misled me was this notion of a universal
church that you know that I'm supposed to love everybody,
including people in countries I never went to, like Bangladesh

(09:02):
or Afghanistan. And what you made clear to me is
you aren't supposed to love everybody, but you're supposed to
love everybody you meet, right, and so we have a
special relationship to people who actually across our path in
our life. Absolutely so that and I you know, I'm

(09:26):
not making a confession here, but I am saying, you know,
the whole part about it, you're supposed to love everybody,
always struck me as odd and I think it undermined
my ability to love the people that I come across.
And that's you know, Jesus uh he showed he loved

(09:48):
everybody he came across. He didn't show how much you
love people that he didn't come across. You know, lazarus
A residents for that, you know, because you're in it's
a Lazarus, you know. So it's it's very significant to me. Okay,
I didn't mean to be so long winded, but it
was so important that I wanted to report it on
the air.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
And if you're just tuning in, you're listening to FINDI
I would pete in the Poet Gold. I'm Peter Leonard
and I'm Poet Gold and we're here today with Kama Bacciochi,
who was also the founder of Hope on a Mission.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, and given some sense of what hope is about,
Hope on a Mission, Yes, I hope on the word
hope is obviously.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Do you want the word hope specifically or do you
want hope on a mission?

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I talk about hope.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Let's talk about hope first.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Hope.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
So when I was experiencing homelessness, I was also very hopeless.
I was hopeless as a child in my in my
childhood home. At times there were things that were happening
beyond my control that I didn't understand, and I felt
very hopeless that they that they weren't going to end.
It was very terrifying. But I had to learn to

(11:00):
sort of detach and move forward and keep going anyway,
because I didn't really know what else to do. I
didn't have any other skills except to pretend that everything
was okay, and that's what was being shown to me
and my household. So when I found myself no longer
housed and no longer employed, and completely addicted to drugs

(11:22):
and alcohol and anything that would take me outside of myself,
I had no hope. When I wanted to get clean
and sober and change my life, I had to find
a source of hope because that's really the only thing
that I understood was going to pull me out of
the darkness. So, right, when they say walk towards the light,

(11:44):
I mean, how do we use the word light for
one hundred thousand things? When you're in a dark hallway,
walk towards the light? When you're in the dark night
of the soul, you're hoping that the sun will rise
the next day. It might take months or years, but
hoping that it does. And that's where the hope comes from.
My hope was always somebody's going to rescue me. Right,

(12:05):
I had the lovely little Disney princess nightmare in my
head of you know, a night in shining armor was
going to come and scoop me up and make my
life better. Meanwhile, I didn't know how to participate if
someone had shown up anyway, I certainly didn't know how
to be. I didn't know how to be the princess
just wanted the night.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I won't come back to that. But yeah, it's a
very valid yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah. So so Hope on a Mission is exists because
I found hope. It was given to me with a
spark of dignity when I was in rehab and there
were some people who had absolutely no need or interest
in my life beyond giving me a gift that they
had received in their recovery. And so they said, we

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don't have to do this alone. And I believed them.
For the first time in my life, somebody told me
something and I actually believed them, and I was willing
to take the chance and trust that they meant that
and hope that they would come through for me, and
they did so. Once I got that little bit of
that little spark of dignity back then I had hope again.

(13:11):
And then that hope I've always been not sitting still person.
So on a Mission just sort of was natural. The
whole name of the organization, Hope on a Mission was
divinely inspired.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
So and then again we're going to repeat it spells
home in a very distinct way.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Home. So we have homies and homegirls and homers and
home guys and home cooked meals and we have our
homecoming coming up and nice. Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's a good it's a good play on words.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
It is I love a play on word.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, let me.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, but I want to go back to I'm sorry,
I want to go back to something that you had
mentioned about had someone come into your life. You know
that was sort of like the prince or the rescuer
that you had. I mean, I'm paraphrasing that you would
not have known what to do anyway, so you didn't
have the tools. And most people won't recognize that.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Oh sure, I didn't know it at the time. It's hindsight.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
But even even in hindsight, most folks, okay, won't they
It's difficult to.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Find people to own that in reflection.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Okay, you know, yeah, there's a lot of really you know,
AA has served me really well. The twelve steps are
pretty freaking amazing if you can just put them to you,
So if you can pull your if you can control
your ego, and you can get your ego right size.
And that's part of what the rooms of AA are
intended to do, is to keep us right size because

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we know we can we can inflate ourselves, and we
can surround ourselves with people who inflate us.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
But it's all false, it's.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
All false inflation. So the twelve steps helped me understand
that I don't know much of any thing on the
grand scale. I know a lot about a little bit,
and I know a little about some things, but I
don't really know anything on the scale of all there
is to know, And so that helps me stay humble.

(15:15):
And humility is the cornerstone of my ability to serve,
because there but for the grace of God go I.
I know that it's only I'm in arm's length away
from being homeless and addicted again. I know that I
know that if I pick up the first drink or
drug that it will take me right back to where
I've left safely twice. I don't need to go back.

(15:37):
I've learned my lesson.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Got you.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
I know, I know what happens.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know my I came across and let me know
if the Serenity prayer that's a main prayer, yeah, for
the AA system still today. Okay, so years ago I'm
going back, like I don't even know now years sure,
I'll go on the subway train. I'm in New York
City and and I often say the Serenity prayer daily.

(16:04):
So I'm in my on the train, in my serenity
prayer space, you know, And and someone tapped me and
and said, are you a sister of.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Bill w Are you a friend of Bill w Right?
And I had no clue, you know what they meant?

Speaker 3 (16:18):
What they meant?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
And I was like, no, I don't know that person,
you know. And that's the conversation, you know, it came
out and yep. So it was just interesting to learn
that that process and how that prayer is used, you
know through AA.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
It's it's just universe. It's a universal prayer. Grant me
the serenity to accept the things I can I cannot change? Well,
what can I change? Nothing? I can't change. I can
barely change my socks on a good day, or change
my mind about what I'm going to pour in this
class in front of me, right, So grant me the

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serenity to accept the things I cannot change. The I
don't even remember how it goes anymore, just.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Because I can't bring okay any other day, I would
know this.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
God brand me this ny to accept the things I
cannot change, the courage to change the things I can't.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Courage, right, the courage must be changed.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
And the wisdom to know the difference.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I've added a line, have you I go, the courage
to change the thing that must be changed, and the power,
the power to change the things because you can have courage.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yes you know, right, but if you don't move on
that right but doesn't is encourage an action word?

Speaker 3 (17:29):
It is an action word.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
So for me, courage if I have the courage to
change the things that I can, and the wisdom to
know the difference, So the courage to know to change
the things that I can, because it's scary to change. Absolutely,
you know, so many of us are stuck because we're
afraid to change. Because the comfortable, smelly, stinking pile of

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do is so much safer than what lies on the
other side of that little bitty valley that I have
to for us to get in to it. But what
I've learned in my walk at these past twelve and
a half years has been that whenever I'm in when
I am approaching a valley and it's dark and scary

(18:13):
and I don't want to go, it means that there's
something really beautiful on the other side, and I will
go kicking and screaming, but I'm going going. I will
resist until it's uncomfortable. It's so uncomfortable to be in
resistance that I allow. It's a lot of work. It
is being a people. It's a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
And you're going back to your statement that you didn't
even know how to respond to somebody if they if
the prince shows up, what do you do?

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah, I was going to take advantage of him, because
that's all I knew.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Okay, but the ultimate story of being saved is sleeping beauty,
And of course it's she's so passed if she's asleep, literally,
and so the whole notion you men have problems too. Yeah,
but women are so designed.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Pressure to be the prince is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, I've had a terrible time with it. Yeah, but
the women's role is entirely powerless. It's being asleep, almost dead,
And I think that compounds the likelihood of not being
saved because you don't have any sense of empowerment when

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you're asleep.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
There's a level of vulnerability that has to that we
have to allow as women. We have to be feminine,
we have to allow. But if you've never had a
safe male in your sphere who has shown you safety
and that he will have your back and he will
take care of you, then what do I have to
go on? I had to protect myself from all the

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men in my life all of my life. None of
them had my back, nobody took care of me. I
was the victim always, So to be able to trust
a man was to betray myself continually.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Expects to get that explicit, but here we are. But
my impression is that you hope on a mission has
a feminine slant to it. In other words, yeah, I
don't know where maybe I get from your personality, but

(20:32):
I have a sense of women empowerment being very much explicit.
Am I reading into that?

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Yeah? I think because being a female woman who was
previously homeless and addicted, my job, my purpose, my privilege,
is to minister to women like myself. So that's where
the feminine lean would be, which I would imagine. I mean,

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my ministry was set created in my heart for women. Now,
I'm not going to turn a man away to get
a meal or clothing, but it is absolutely a ministry
for women who are struggling with homeless and addiction. And
then we put on and ben because I'm not going
to turn anyone away. And you don't have to be
a woman or a man. I don't care who you
are or how you present in the world. If you

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show up at my table, I'm gonna hug you, I'm
going to love you. I'm a look in your eyes
and remind you that you're a human being worthy of
every single thing that I have in my life, which
is honor and dignity and love and compassion and feeling safe.
And if I can provide any of all of those things,
then I'm going to do that.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's the impression I had.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Okay, if you're just tuning in, you're listening to finding
Out with Pete and the poet Gold. I'm beauter Le
and I'm the poet Gold, and we're here today with
Karamia Bacciochi, a founder of Hope on a mission.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I almost forgot what it was.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Can you can before we go on?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I just I just want listeners who may have just
tuned in, Can you let them know about the fundraiser again,
where they can get tickets, what the date and the
time is.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
So Hope on a Mission and our acronym is HOAM,
which sounds like home is having a homecoming. And this
year is our ten year anniversary. We've been serving in
the streets for ten years. So on October two, twenty
twenty five, which is a Thursday, at Locust Grove Estate
from five thirty to seven thirty pm, we're going to
have our annual fundraising homecoming. We call it a homecoming,

(22:28):
we don't call it gala. There's going to be a
really great meal by Simply Gourmet, and there's going to
be amazing raffle baskets because we always got amazing raffle baskets.
And we're going to celebrate ten years of Hope. And
you can buy tickets online at www. Dot Hope on
a Mission dot org. There's a link right on the

(22:52):
front page.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
In my sense is I've gone to a lot of fundraisers,
and I have no reasons to think this other than
your personality. But you're fun, thanks, and I expect that's
a fundraiser is going to be fun.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
It's a fundraiser. Okay, you we're raising fun and fun Jesus.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
My point.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's a fun fundraiser.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. We have a great time.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
One of our favorite things to do when when someone
who comes to our table regularly has something to share
that's celebratory. Maybe they got through the day without using
the drug of their choice, or they didn't have to
I don't know. They got to talk to their kids
something something wonderful. We have a little dance and we

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call it go Jesus, and we just go Jesus, Jesus.
So we do that a lot at the fundraiser too,
because when people win things at the raphroprise, or if
somebody has something wonderful to share, we just let anybody
go to the mic and talk. And yeah, we get
to we get to say go Jesus and do our
little dance.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Okay, And you mentioned earlier about big mega churches that
you know claims to be Christian.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
I mentioned that mega churches get a bad rap sometimes,
is what I said.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Okay, yeah, well I'm one of the people who give
them a bad rep.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Okay, why do you feel that they get a bad
rap sometimes what do you mean by that?

Speaker 4 (24:23):
You know, you can get too big for your breches.
But again, I've been to a couple of really gigantic
services and I've felt the Holy Spirit in those places.
I just being a human and having an ego can
be a really dangerous place. And I think that in

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a really safe environment, where people are keeping checks and
balances on themselves in one another in a loving way,
then that's a wonderful thing. I also know that things
get out of hand in any great, big place, or
even in a small business. I mean, how many small
businesses do we know where the guy or girl, the
human that's running the show, their ego is bigger than

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the lot full of cars or whatever it is that
they're working on. Humans have a hard time being human. Yes, yeah,
it's hard to be a people. I think I said
that a minute ago. It is hard to be a people,
it is, But we be people in Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
So the people who show up O sob a second
and Locust Grove and then he get tickets on your website,
which is Hope on a Mission dot Org. Yep, they're
gonna have fun.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yes, have fun raising some money.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, we're having fun raising money gonna play with raffle
baskets from all kinds. There's dining throughout Duchess, so there'll
be baskets with different gift cards to different restaurants. We
usually end up with two or three of those baskets.
There's baskets from AutoZone and Advanced Stroto for people who
want to keep their car all buffed out. And I

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don't really know what else shows up. I can think
of things that Atoms usually does. A basket orange theory,
a couple of handed stone probably, So you know, there's
there's something for everyone. I know that we have usually
like forty baskets. Wow wow, Yeah, yeah, we've had like
I think we've twenty five, between twenty five and forty
every year. It's nuts, but it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
One of the traditional baskets collections of booze. You have
that for people who.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Sow some cool Yeah. So you know, again, we're sort
of like anti addiction, right, but I'm not going to
I'm not going to not accept a wine basket from
Viscount or from Arlington Wine and Liquors because just because
I don't drink responsibly doesn't meet somebody else doesn't. So yeah,
that's if they want to, if they want to donate it,

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and we're going to raffle it off because we're going
to raise money. And the people who support us are
functioning human beings, and you know, how they handle their
booze has got nothing to do with me.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
That's a very good answer. I was expecting a more
pureitanical answer.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
No alcohol.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
There's no alcohol served at our events.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
We love it.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
But that doesn't mean I'm not going to raffle off
a basket that somebody donated. Yeah, again, just because I
don't handle my liquor.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Well, the that's a hopefully way to put it. The
when you started the show of talking about hope and dignity, respect,
if you go back to that, like the notion that
what you serve, you serve hot food to people and
give them clothing and whatnot, but you also to shout respect.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yes, okay, that's that's yes. When a person approaches our table,
they're grated as a human first and foremost, look you
in the eyes. Thanks for joining us tonight. How many
trays would you like? And I hand them as many
clamshell containers as they request. I'll have a minimum or

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a maximum. But I'm creating a relationship with someone who's
coming to get a meal. I want them to know
my name. I want them to be able to have
a hug. I want to know their name. I want
to give them a hug. Not everybody wants to be hugged.
I love to hug people. We want to make sure

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that your needs are met, your very basic human needs.
I can't meet your shelter needs. There are organizations in
Dutchess County and Poughkeepsie that handle that. But I can
meet your clothing needs in the wintertime. We have winter clothes,
we have sleeping bags, we have blankets, thinking depending on
the season, we have what you need.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
And that you also have a place people can participate
in your organization at forty four Raymond Avenue, your thrifts
the home.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Okay, so I'm confused about what you mean by participating
my organization.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
There is somebody wants to drop.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Okay, I understand what you're saying. So if a person
wanted to participate in Hope on a mission in some way,
shape or form, if they have clothing they want to donate,
they would contact our well. On our website, there's our
donations coordinators information is listed there. We do have a
partnership with another ministry called a Giving Heart, and the

(29:27):
two ministries together are Heart and Home Hoam, So we
have a thrift shop together, but we do not take
donations at the thrift shop. There's no room for it there,
and our volunteers are not trained to go through clothing
items or receive them. So those are two separate things.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Okay, thank you for clarifying it. But if people go
to forty four Raymond Avenue, they can.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Shop shop and they can purchase things, and we will
feed more people and love more people with your purchase.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
That must have been what I meant by participating.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Okay, take books?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
We don't, but dreaming Godess next door does. Okay, she
has a bookshelf and everything she sells. All the books
that are donated to her she sells and gives them
money to local nonprofits.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Oh okay, wonderful, I have tons of books.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
She'll take them.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Thank you for listening to finding out with Pete and
the poet gold and we're at the end already. Huh
say cameer, thank you for coming on again.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Thanks for having me and to our listeners, Thank you
once again for tuning in.
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