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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
A good morning, you'll find out with Pete and Poet Cold.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm Peter Leonardon and I'm the poet Gold.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And we're on the air this morning with two candidates
for a candidy legislator, Trish Plenty and Lisa Call. And
before we get to Miss Call and Miss Plenty, we
are going to go to the poet Goal for her
weekly poem prayer incantation. Gol please lit it roll.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
You got it, Peter, I'm going to do the bridge.
The storm clouds move to make way for the shine,
rays of warmth, or for ease to the mind enveloping.
The spirit of presence is within it. Let love be
the breeze for your lift out of the loneliness. For
with breath life is never truly listless because we are
blessed with the power of resurrecting, restoring the good that
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lies within us. That's not the voice of doubt. Befriend
your hope to make you hopeless or copeless. There's an
inner bridge connecting your soul to your spirit, to your heart,
to your mind, leading to your strength. You may cross it,
for it is there the sun will rise.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Amen to that. The connections and an awful lot of
political life is about connecting the community, and for both
of you being candidates for local office, I think that
we might be able to say that bridges were a
connector absolutely. Okay, Alsia, give us a sense you're incumbent legislature,
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give us a sense of what a county legislator does.
Mostos don't even know that.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Good question. So hello, thank you so much for having
me here today. I'm Lisa call I represent a Districts
six town of Poughkeepsie in the Dutchess County Legislature. We
are so the legislature is sort of the county rather
is the middle level of government between the town and
the state, and the county government handles several issues that
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we have in the county, ranging from public health to
transportation to community and family services, and the legislature is
the body that appropriates funds that the county spends. So
that's really the role of the legislature. We have a
county executive who comes up with the plan and then
the legislature is a body that says yay or nay
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to the funds being appropriated to be spent on whether
it's transportation or mental health, the veteran services, or services
for youth or aging, and the list goes on.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So that's not the controls. What's the control we'll do?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
The comptroller's role is really that of more of a watchdog.
So the controller really is sort of like an audit officer.
So he, the controller, looks to see whether the funds
that we've been appropriated have been appropriately spent.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Control is the cop, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
The person who checks the work as it were, right,
the controller checks the world.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But I've learned more in the last ninety seconds about
county government how I have in a long time. And
I trus you what would make you want to be
a county legislature when you a legislator, when you understand
what the deal is about.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Well, I've been following, like I say, the appropriations of
the monies by our county, and there's been a lot
of waste over the years. I mean huge amounts of
money that could be benefiting the people here in our community,
you know, by improving roads and sidewalks, having more money
for housing, there's no housing. Not only is it a
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national crisis, it's a crisis here in our community. So
I want to be able to affect that, you know,
be able to affect change and stop this huge waste
of money.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So when you say that there's been a waste of money,
I mean where has it been going? Can give me
an example.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh, sure, the county received fifty million dollars of federal
ARBA money. We took twenty five million of it and
appropriated it to the minor league baseball stadium otherwise known
as the Renegades. Now it was supposed to be used
for upgrades and some luxury boxes. Twenty five million dollars.
Now the New York Yankees own the minor league team.
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Why didn't we ask the New York Yankees to appropriate
their money and fix the stadium? Now we took our money.
That's a stadium, by the way, that's never made any money.
The county owns it. It's a loser.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Look, I love baseball, but why are appropriating that amount
of money into a sinking hole?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So what I want to say is it's a useful
money you don't like it doesn't automatically make it a waste, right,
I mean, when you say it's a waste, it sort
of indicates to me it was somehow you know, thrown
in the river.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It was a vote, I believe at midnight. So that's
one thing. But the other thing is this, how many
people can go to the baseball stadium. If you don't
have a car and you live on the north side
of Poughkeepsie. How many people who live in the eastern
district of Dutchess County are going down to the baseball stadium.
That's a small sliver of people. So the reason I'm
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saying it's a waste is why aren't we using that
money to benefit the people in our community for things
that really would have benefited them.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know, Lisa, you have a tone as if I'm
arguing with you. I'm not arguing with you. I'm actually
agreeing with you. I'm just saying somebody might say it's
different from what you want. And so you have very
clear values that you're siculating. You want money for social
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services and roads and stuff, and the baseball things seems
superfluous to you.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I want money that will benefit our community, larger groups
in our community than a little slice of people who
go down to the Baseball state when there's other ways
they could have funded that.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Let me say just so, I'm not in trouble with anybody.
I agree with you. Okay, I wish I do.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I do like your idea about you know, I didn't,
I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I'm not real familiar with who owns the who owns
that stadium? So, and and to find out that the
New York Yankees, the New.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
York Yankees on the team, we own the stadium, which
has never made any money.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Okay, so we own the stadium, the New York Yankees
on the team.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
But but you're absolutly right, as the alternative is, did
anyone have a conversation with the New York Yankees to say, hey,
you know this, this is struggling. Can we get some
type of collaboration going on, some type of partnership? What
can you give? You know, we have a slither of
funding that's available. But that conversation definitely should have happened.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, they're a multinational company, right.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh yank you too rich? Yeah? I mean, and there
is a word called too rich, a phrase which I
understand this it's a controversial concept. Also, Lisa, Yeah, you
represent the town of Poughkeepsie, and there are there any
issues as specific to the town of Poughkeepsie that you
would want to mention or give a sense of your
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values in terms of county wide spending.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, I would love to do that.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I'd love to also address the very interesting question that
you just raised about waste, whether we view bayte something
as waste just because it doesn't align with our priorities,
And I think that's a really interesting question to ask.
And I'd like to give you an example of something
that I see as waste because I think and I
think of waste not just as a waste in terms
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of money, but I also think of waste in terms
of opportunities and waste in terms of the way it
applies to people. And one concrete example that we have
in front of us has to do with the twenty
six Oakley Street proposed transitional emergency shelter for those who
are unhoused. So the county bought this property in the
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face of opposition from residents of that place, for two
point one million. They spent another million ondoing a design study,
and then realized, after having spent three point one million,
that they did not have enough money to make the
necessary upgrades to the building in order for it to
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meet compliance for what it was going to do. Since then,
the county has gone out and applied to get a
grunt and got a grant for thirteen million, but because
of continued opposition from the City of Poughkeepsie and now
a lawsuit, we have not made any progress on that
project in the meanwhile, the reason why we had the
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project in the first place, namely to provide shelter for
those who are unhoused for a variety of reasons, that
problem hasn't gone away. In fact, that problem is in
a much worse place because those folks are housed in
the pods, which were supposed to be temporary accommodations. We
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have in writing from the County Executive's off office telling
us that that particular accommodation, the pods are neuring catastrophic
failure and we have no solution in sight. So to me,
that is a waste. That's a waste not just of
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the money the three point one million that's already been
sunk in and is sitting there, but a waste of
all the human potential that could have been unlocked by
now and so in terms of my priorities for my district,
and when I say my district, I say that, you know,
it's some caution because I recognize very clearly that we
are a county and we're interlinked. So what happens in
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the town of Pickkeepsy impacts the city of Pikeepsy impacts Beacon,
what happens in the city of Poughkeepsie impacts the town
of Poughkeepsy and elsewhere. We're a county at the end
of the day. My particular district, District six, is very diverse.
We have a college in the middle of it. We
have commercial we have renters, we have single family homes,
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we have those who have accessory dwelling units. Very very diverse.
But one big issue that's been coming up and something
that I've been working on, has to do with our
waste management. Yeah, don't laugh. That's not something that I
thought I was going to be working on when I
got into office. But we have an incinerator where we
dispose of all our waste in Dutchess County. The incinerator
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has certain environmental and health hazards attached to it. We
also have one of the highest rates of asthma in
the county and so I'm going to carry this along.
And so that's something I've been working on, thinking about
public safety, thinking about how we dispose of our waste
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as a matter of public safety.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
If you're just tuning in, you're listening to finding out
with Pete and the Poet Gold.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And I'm the Poet Gold. We're here.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
We county legislator for Dutchess County District six, Lisa Call
and trist Prunty, a fundraiser for nonprofit who was running
who is also a candidate and is running for county
legislative position in District seven, High Park and Pleasant Valley.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
And you know, we certainly mean to cut you off
about the waste management issue, you know, public health, but
it's clearly a big you know, these are big issues.
And trust you have any perspective on the Oakley Street controversy,
because I guess if there's one controversy in Dutchess County
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that is the most prominent would be that Oakley Street.
Thank you have an opinion on that or a perspective.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, I think the unhoused situation in Poughkeepsie, it's it's
out of control. You go to Main Street anywhere in Poughkeepsie.
I am a fundraiser for nonprofit that we're I work
in the city of Poughkeepsie. It's a dire situation. So
getting this, whether it's Oakley Street or some other shelter
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put together where people can go is super important. The
way the Oakley Street thing was handled, I think could
have been handled a lot better. Bringing people along in
the process is really important. So just plowing ahead and
maybe buying a building or thinking this is the solution
without including the people from that neighborhood really wasn't the
way to go. And now we see it's all stalled.
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So that's my take on it.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And it does seem as if it's closed an awful
lot of good people to be awfully made at each other.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I mean, you have, you know, on Main Street, you
have the business owner issue. You know, people the un
housed obviously who don't have a place to bathe or
you know, release themselves go to the bathroom. Do this
in the vestibue of business owners, and it has a
great impact. Some of it has been violent behavior on
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on Main Street and it's hard. I've always been of
the belief of whether it's Pekeepsie anyplace else. If you
don't invest in build your main street, you lose a city.
You can you can build the next block over, you know,
you can build the block north south, but if you
don't take care of your main street, you will ultimately
lose your city. And I've been up here for now
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for a while now, a couple of decades, and and
for a minute it looked like main Street Poughkeepsie was
coming about. Then COVID happened, you know, which hurt a
lot of cities across America, and then just you know,
we just started going on a on a decline. And
I just wish people could really come to the table
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and service people in a way in understanding that if
if I'm suffering for something, not necessarily putting me back
in the environment that I'm suffering is, in my humble opinion,
the right choice.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And I agree to hear in mind people's gold as
not running for an elected office, maybe she should. Yeah,
you know, I think one of the things about anybody
running for elected office, it's a hard thing to do,
and I think it's a noble thing to do. In
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other words, you're going to live in a democracy, you
need people to run for office, and I think that
that's something that is underrated. And I said, I wonder
what prompted both of you takes a step from going
to be concerned citizens to leadership positions. You want to
give us a sense of that, Trish, why are you
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running well?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Two things? Really, I felt that it was time to
step up and help my community because so many people
don't want to do it. Or there's also this thing
today where people are actually afraid, you know. I talked
to a couple of people. They didn't want to put
a sign in the yard because they thought someone could
come and vandalize their home, not just take the sign away.
So this recent or last year or two of violence
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I think has also kept people away. So I feel
like it's kind to step up. It's time to help people.
I think I have a lot of good things I
bring to the table my thirty years as a not
working in nonprofits. You know, you learn all about budgeting
and accounting and fundraising and leadership and being a good manager.
All those things I think will benefit me in the legislature.
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And I think one of the most important things I've
learned as a fundraiser is how much people care for
our community. And you know, that's a really strong message
when when we need something here in Dutchess County, I
think people rally around that, and I want to take
that sort of positive spirit into the legislature.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
That was really good. Yeah, what's driven you to this?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Not quite as good?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
But so this is this is a great question. So
you know, two years ago I was here and I
gave you an answer about sort of what kept me
away from running for so long, And at that point
I sort of mentioned the fact that I'm a new American.
I often felt alienated from the process. I didn't feel
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American enough to run. But as I was running, I
remembered something about myself, which is so My father was
in the Army. We moved in the Indian Army. We
moved every two years, and I realized that I was
always a new kid in school, and my way of
belonging to the place that I belonged that I was
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in was through contributing to it. And I think running
for office is an incredible, incredible honor to have, an
incredible privilege to have, and that's just another way in
which you contribute to the community that you live in.
And that for me is a way of belonging to
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a place. And I've done you know. I mean, I've
been in office for the last year and ten months
and I just love it. Uh, this is this is
work that I really love and I feel incredibly privileged
to have the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Now I know that this is your first time holding
this type of position.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Correct, well, I was on the Board of education earlier on.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Okay, So so what has been new for you?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You know what we've said, Wow, I just didn't know
that this is what it was going to be.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
What ha's been new is really opening my eyes to
the world around me. There's so much stuff that we
take for granted every single day. We take for granted
that we have a road to drive on. We take
for granted that we open our taps and we have
clean drinking water there right. We take for granted that
we have air to breathe we have. We take for
granted pretty often that we have electricity. Somebody something is
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making all that happen. Our lives, which we take for granted,
are actually orchestrated, finally by a group of people in
a very intricate machine around there. And so I almost
feel like I feel like a child who's sort of
suddenly seeing the world with new eyes. And it's a
pretty amazing feeling to have that and to learn how
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this world of ours works around us, and how we
can be a stretch set the change makers in this world,
how we can move in the direction that we want
to be and where we want to be and how
we want to live. And it's an amazing way of
like what we owe to each other, but really being
able to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Learning that the traffic lights did not grow it is
surprising and there's a lot of caring that goes into that.
Are there any issues, trishs that you find you be
particularly interested in. I know, with all your finance background,
you know, working for nonprofits and the finance was always
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such a central part of that, I suspect that would
be something you'd be interested in, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I'm actually really interested in being able to help with
the mental health crisis that we're having locally. Families are
waiting six months to a year to get their child
in with a therapist. I know, as a parent myself,
if my child needed to see a therapist, I'd be
there tomorrow with my child. But these people are telling
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us they're waiting, you know, six months or a year
to get in. So we need to have more mental
health resources pushed out into our community, to get more
providers into the area, and to to to focus on youth.
The pandemic for those two three years really hurt youth.
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You know, they weren't in school, they were isolated. Many
kids need help and that's something I want to focus on,
and so do the parents. Yes, no, you're You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
If you're just tuning in, you're listening to finding out
with Pete and Poe of gold and I'm the Power Golden.
We're here with Dutchess County Legislator Lisa Call from District
six and Trish Prunty, fundraiser for nonprofit who's a candidate
for County legislator seventh district.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know, uh, it's the notion of the mental health issue.
You know, I so often we think we know people.
I'm saying, you know, you know a lot about numbers,
what do you think? And then just to find out
how much broader your vision is is a big deal.
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It's just things in your background that would lead you
to where you want. In other words, what I guess
the better way to put it is, what were the
things has formed your values? Do you want to give
us a shot with that, Lisa, to form my values? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:52):
I think one really important thing that form my values,
I mean, was that I was raised in a military household,
So notions of service, notions of dedication were really important.
Right if you signed up for something, you did and
no questions asked. The second thing that I think informed
my values was that I was raised a Catholic, and
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again central to that was notions of service. And the
third thing I think that really informed me was that
I was raised in a developing country. I was raised
in India, where we didn't take things for granted. You
may do with a lot of scarcity, and you were
also very very entrepreneurial in many ways because you had
to live within your means. And I think that's what
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I bring to the legislature interestingly, is the sense of
being very fiscally conservative and really looking hard at what
at the money that we spent and where we spend it.
And so as Trish talked about, you know, in the
mental health resources which we desperately need, I'm also really
interested in addressing the causes of many of the problems
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that we have, and they're all interconnected. If you don't
have housing, I mean, it's not impossible to imagine the
leap from not having housing, not knowing where you're going
to sleep at night, to developing some kind of mental
health issue depression, anxiety. Right, if you don't have enough
to eat, if you don't have a job, or if
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you have a job and you don't have transportation to
get there on time. Right, these are all issues. Or
parents you know have kids in school but they don't
have a job, they kind of get to school and
time to pick their kids up. Or they're worried about
their kids walking to school, which fortunately now is not
the case. They're worried about speeding. There's so many issues
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that contribute to this, and I think being able to
address them holistically is important.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, I'm total agreement with you, you know, on that issue,
because oftentimes we look at things as singular when nothing
in life happens as singular.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
It's all interrelated. What have you approved right now?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I hate a better understanding of the legislator that you're
very proud of. You know what, if someone who's a
layman who knows nothing about politics and just says you
knock on their door and I go, what have you
done for me?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I think one of the biggest responds.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
There are several things actually, even though I'm in the minority,
but one of the big things was really approving of
money to look at our waste management, so looking to
see what goes into our incinerator.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And this was a fight eight years to the making.
Last year I was able to approach this with a
sense of curiosity, work across the aisle, come to some
kind of agreement with my Republican colleagues who are opposed
to a study, and we're we're now looking at what
goes into our incinerators to hopefully address the solution that
we have and to divert the waste. Another important issue
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was that we appropriated funds for Oxford homes. So these
are smaller homes for those folks who are looking to
recover from some kind of addiction, so not taking it's
they're pure lad They're much smaller. It's a much more intimate,
supportive setting, and I think we need more of those
kinds of places for people to live in in community
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as they are trying to recover to get back on
their feet. Do we currently have that in Dutchess, Yes,
we do, and we appropriated money for two more last
year Oxford homes.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And I'm sure, what is it if you pulled back
and look at your own life, what were the things
that formed you of values and make you a candidate
worth looking at it?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, my mom and dad. Obviously, my dad worked at
the post office after he got out of World War Two.
He was a hard worker. When he retired he got
a pin for something like having twelve years of sickly
that he never used, so that sort of keep your
nose to the grind. He went to work every day,
whether he fel like going to work or not. My
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mom was a big volunteer, you know. She stayed home
with us, but she volunteered at the girls club. She
did a lot of work for women. She was always
about women's empowerment, so she was always encouraging us. We
always knew we'd go to college. We always knew we'd serve,
we'd serve people. And like Lisa, I was raised a
Catholic and service was always a main part of what
we did. I mean as kids. You know, she took
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us to volunteer at the food pantry, or she took
us to do. You know, clothing drives all those kinds
of things. So as an adult, it all just comes
flowing back into you because you know that's sort of
where you belong in those spaces.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So we have two Democrats, two Democrats who raised Catholic
with a lot of sense of duty and service, and
neither one of them as lazy as seems. You don't
even have lazy relatives.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I have a lazy dog.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't have that.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
No, you know, is there anything that's significant about your
opponents that should be mentioned? You don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I would love to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I don't have oneficant.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I am running unimposed.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
On you with your candidacy. I treat you everything you
want to say about your opponent.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, I don't honestly know that much about him, and
he's I suppose, out there just as much knocking doors
as I am. But I want to focus really on
what I want to achieve, and you know, housing, mental health,
and of course not leaving our youth and seniors behind.
Where I grew up, they had a very robust senior center.
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My mom went there three four times a week. They
even had a little gym and it costs ten cents
to go into the gym, so she would do that
every week. Then they'd collect all the dimes at the
end of the year and have a pizza party. But
it meant so much to her. Her friends were there,
they had card games, they you know, it was a
great thing for her. I just don't see that strength
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there in Dutchess County. You know, towns banding together that
have a really robust senior program. So I don't want
to leave seniors behind, and I don't want to leave
youth behind either.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You're running once again in high park, pleasant value area, right,
and you're the town of Poughkeepsie.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Does count of Ptipsie have a community center for youth?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
We have a senior center. We have a senior center
and now we have really great programming there because we
have an excellent supervisor, Rebecca Edwards, and we have a
great recreation director. But we don't have our own senior center.
But what I mean, sorry, a youth center. A youth center, right,
But we are trying to develop programs for youth. But
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this is a real problem in this county, right, And
I think The Youth Opportunity Union project, which is again
one of the projects that was sort of disbanded essentially
by the county, speaks to that problem because you know,
we started something that we thought was going to address
a need for young people and then we just abandoned
it because of the lack of money. We also don't
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have enough third spaces, just spaces where people can go
hang out, meet people for youth to just relax in
a way, maybe explore something that interests them.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
That are free, right, you can pay for it.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
What the Youth Opportunity Union was going to do was
to provide a swimming pool. We don't have many places
with those with special needs can go swim. We don't
really have access to therapeutic aqua aerobics for exercise for people.
Many of our kids have to go to another county
for that.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
So and when you're when you when you're speaking about
children going to another county, now you have transportation issues.
So now you're talking to a socioeconomic issue, you know,
because not every child can has transportation to go with
parents maybe both working and et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Right, you know, I can understand why you're running unopposed,
so I would not want to be up again against
you and Trish, you are not unopposed, But do you
have anything in the last thirty seconds that you'd like
to emphasize about your candidacy and Hyde Pap.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Well, for sure, i want to be in the legislature
because I'm going to be prepared. I'm going to work
hard for the people in my district but also county wide.
And like I said, I'm not going to leave seniors
and youth behind, going to work hard for them as well.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
So so do a lot of meet and greets, Go
knock on a lot of doors, and knock on doors,
say hello to the people.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I want to thank you so much for coming on
to finding out what Pete and the Poet gold, Lisa, Trish, Yes,
you want to say one with this?
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You can and you can vote then, or you can
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
A good morning, you'll find out with Pete and Poet Cold.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm Peter Leonardon and I'm the poet Gold.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And we're on the air this morning with two candidates
for a candidy legislator, Trish Plenty and Lisa Call. And
before we get to Miss Call and Miss Plenty, we
are going to go to the poet Goal for her
weekly poem prayer incantation. Gol please lit it roll.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
You got it, Peter, I'm going to do the bridge.
The storm clouds move to make way for the shine,
rays of warmth, or for ease to the mind enveloping.
The spirit of presence is within it. Let love be
the breeze for your lift out of the loneliness. For
with breath life is never truly listless because we are
blessed with the power of resurrecting, restoring the good that
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lies within us. That's not the voice of doubt. Befriend
your hope to make you hopeless or copeless. There's an
inner bridge connecting your soul to your spirit, to your heart,
to your mind, leading to your strength. You may cross it,
for it is there the sun will rise.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Amen to that. The connections and an awful lot of
political life is about connecting the community, and for both
of you being candidates for local office, I think that
we might be able to say that bridges were a
connector absolutely. Okay, Alsia, give us a sense you're incumbent legislature,
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give us a sense of what a county legislator does.
Mostos don't even know that.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Good question. So hello, thank you so much for having
me here today. I'm Lisa call I represent a Districts
six town of Poughkeepsie in the Dutchess County Legislature. We
are so the legislature is sort of the county rather
is the middle level of government between the town and
the state, and the county government handles several issues that
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we have in the county, ranging from public health to
transportation to community and family services, and the legislature is
the body that appropriates funds that the county spends. So
that's really the role of the legislature. We have a
county executive who comes up with the plan and then
the legislature is a body that says yay or nay
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to the funds being appropriated to be spent on whether
it's transportation or mental health, the veteran services, or services
for youth or aging, and the list goes on.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So that's not the controls. What's the control we'll do?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
The comptroller's role is really that of more of a watchdog.
So the controller really is sort of like an audit officer.
So he, the controller, looks to see whether the funds
that we've been appropriated have been appropriately spent.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Control is the cop, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
The person who checks the work as it were, right,
the controller checks the world.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
But I've learned more in the last ninety seconds about
county government how I have in a long time. And
I trus you what would make you want to be
a county legislature when you a legislator, when you understand
what the deal is about.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Well, I've been following, like I say, the appropriations of
the monies by our county, and there's been a lot
of waste over the years. I mean huge amounts of
money that could be benefiting the people here in our community,
you know, by improving roads and sidewalks, having more money
for housing, there's no housing. Not only is it a
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national crisis, it's a crisis here in our community. So
I want to be able to affect that, you know,
be able to affect change and stop this huge waste
of money.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So when you say that there's been a waste of money,
I mean where has it been going? Can give me
an example.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh, sure, the county received fifty million dollars of federal
ARBA money. We took twenty five million of it and
appropriated it to the minor league baseball stadium otherwise known
as the Renegades. Now it was supposed to be used
for upgrades and some luxury boxes. Twenty five million dollars.
Now the New York Yankees own the minor league team.
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Why didn't we ask the New York Yankees to appropriate
their money and fix the stadium? Now we took our money.
That's a stadium, by the way, that's never made any money.
The county owns it. It's a loser.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Look, I love baseball, but why are appropriating that amount
of money into a sinking hole?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So what I want to say is it's a useful
money you don't like it doesn't automatically make it a waste, right,
I mean, when you say it's a waste, it sort
of indicates to me it was somehow you know, thrown
in the river.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
It was a vote, I believe at midnight. So that's
one thing. But the other thing is this, how many
people can go to the baseball stadium. If you don't
have a car and you live on the north side
of Poughkeepsie. How many people who live in the eastern
district of Dutchess County are going down to the baseball stadium.
That's a small sliver of people. So the reason I'm
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saying it's a waste is why aren't we using that
money to benefit the people in our community for things
that really would have benefited them.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know, Lisa, you have a tone as if I'm
arguing with you. I'm not arguing with you. I'm actually
agreeing with you. I'm just saying somebody might say it's
different from what you want. And so you have very
clear values that you're siculating. You want money for social
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services and roads and stuff, and the baseball things seems
superfluous to you.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I want money that will benefit our community, larger groups
in our community than a little slice of people who
go down to the Baseball state when there's other ways
they could have funded that.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Let me say just so, I'm not in trouble with anybody.
I agree with you. Okay, I wish I do.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I do like your idea about you know, I didn't,
I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I'm not real familiar with who owns the who owns
that stadium? So, and and to find out that the
New York Yankees, the New.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
York Yankees on the team, we own the stadium, which
has never made any money.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Okay, so we own the stadium, the New York Yankees
on the team.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
But but you're absolutly right, as the alternative is, did
anyone have a conversation with the New York Yankees to say, hey,
you know this, this is struggling. Can we get some
type of collaboration going on, some type of partnership? What
can you give? You know, we have a slither of
funding that's available. But that conversation definitely should have happened.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, they're a multinational company, right.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh yank you too rich? Yeah? I mean, and there
is a word called too rich, a phrase which I
understand this it's a controversial concept. Also, Lisa, Yeah, you
represent the town of Poughkeepsie, and there are there any
issues as specific to the town of Poughkeepsie that you
would want to mention or give a sense of your
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values in terms of county wide spending.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, I would love to do that.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I'd love to also address the very interesting question that
you just raised about waste, whether we view bayte something
as waste just because it doesn't align with our priorities,
And I think that's a really interesting question to ask.
And I'd like to give you an example of something
that I see as waste because I think and I
think of waste not just as a waste in terms
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of money, but I also think of waste in terms
of opportunities and waste in terms of the way it
applies to people. And one concrete example that we have
in front of us has to do with the twenty
six Oakley Street proposed transitional emergency shelter for those who
are unhoused. So the county bought this property in the
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face of opposition from residents of that place, for two
point one million. They spent another million ondoing a design study,
and then realized, after having spent three point one million,
that they did not have enough money to make the
necessary upgrades to the building in order for it to
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meet compliance for what it was going to do. Since then,
the county has gone out and applied to get a
grunt and got a grant for thirteen million, but because
of continued opposition from the City of Poughkeepsie and now
a lawsuit, we have not made any progress on that
project in the meanwhile, the reason why we had the
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project in the first place, namely to provide shelter for
those who are unhoused for a variety of reasons, that
problem hasn't gone away. In fact, that problem is in
a much worse place because those folks are housed in
the pods, which were supposed to be temporary accommodations. We
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have in writing from the County Executive's off office telling
us that that particular accommodation, the pods are neuring catastrophic
failure and we have no solution in sight. So to me,
that is a waste. That's a waste not just of
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the money the three point one million that's already been
sunk in and is sitting there, but a waste of
all the human potential that could have been unlocked by
now and so in terms of my priorities for my district,
and when I say my district, I say that, you know,
it's some caution because I recognize very clearly that we
are a county and we're interlinked. So what happens in
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the town of Pickkeepsy impacts the city of Pikeepsy impacts Beacon,
what happens in the city of Poughkeepsie impacts the town
of Poughkeepsy and elsewhere. We're a county at the end
of the day. My particular district, District six, is very diverse.
We have a college in the middle of it. We
have commercial we have renters, we have single family homes,
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we have those who have accessory dwelling units. Very very diverse.
But one big issue that's been coming up and something
that I've been working on, has to do with our
waste management. Yeah, don't laugh. That's not something that I
thought I was going to be working on when I
got into office. But we have an incinerator where we
dispose of all our waste in Dutchess County. The incinerator
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has certain environmental and health hazards attached to it. We
also have one of the highest rates of asthma in
the county and so I'm going to carry this along.
And so that's something I've been working on, thinking about
public safety, thinking about how we dispose of our waste
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as a matter of public safety.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
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Speaker 3 (10:59):
And I'm the Poet Gold. We're here.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
We county legislator for Dutchess County District six, Lisa Call
and trist Prunty, a fundraiser for nonprofit who was running
who is also a candidate and is running for county
legislative position in District seven, High Park and Pleasant Valley.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
And you know, we certainly mean to cut you off
about the waste management issue, you know, public health, but
it's clearly a big you know, these are big issues.
And trust you have any perspective on the Oakley Street controversy,
because I guess if there's one controversy in Dutchess County
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that is the most prominent would be that Oakley Street.
Thank you have an opinion on that or a perspective.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, I think the unhoused situation in Poughkeepsie, it's it's
out of control. You go to Main Street anywhere in Poughkeepsie.
I am a fundraiser for nonprofit that we're I work
in the city of Poughkeepsie. It's a dire situation. So
getting this, whether it's Oakley Street or some other shelter
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put together where people can go is super important. The
way the Oakley Street thing was handled, I think could
have been handled a lot better. Bringing people along in
the process is really important. So just plowing ahead and
maybe buying a building or thinking this is the solution
without including the people from that neighborhood really wasn't the
way to go. And now we see it's all stalled.
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So that's my take on it.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And it does seem as if it's closed an awful
lot of good people to be awfully made at each other.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I mean, you have, you know, on Main Street, you
have the business owner issue. You know, people the un
housed obviously who don't have a place to bathe or
you know, release themselves go to the bathroom. Do this
in the vestibue of business owners, and it has a
great impact. Some of it has been violent behavior on
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on Main Street and it's hard. I've always been of
the belief of whether it's Pekeepsie anyplace else. If you
don't invest in build your main street, you lose a city.
You can you can build the next block over, you know,
you can build the block north south, but if you
don't take care of your main street, you will ultimately
lose your city. And I've been up here for now
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for a while now, a couple of decades, and and
for a minute it looked like main Street Poughkeepsie was
coming about. Then COVID happened, you know, which hurt a
lot of cities across America, and then just you know,
we just started going on a on a decline. And
I just wish people could really come to the table
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and service people in a way in understanding that if
if I'm suffering for something, not necessarily putting me back
in the environment that I'm suffering is, in my humble opinion,
the right choice.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And I agree to hear in mind people's gold as
not running for an elected office, maybe she should. Yeah,
you know, I think one of the things about anybody
running for elected office, it's a hard thing to do,
and I think it's a noble thing to do. In
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other words, you're going to live in a democracy, you
need people to run for office, and I think that
that's something that is underrated. And I said, I wonder
what prompted both of you takes a step from going
to be concerned citizens to leadership positions. You want to
give us a sense of that, Trish, why are you
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running well?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Two things? Really, I felt that it was time to
step up and help my community because so many people
don't want to do it. Or there's also this thing
today where people are actually afraid, you know. I talked
to a couple of people. They didn't want to put
a sign in the yard because they thought someone could
come and vandalize their home, not just take the sign away.
So this recent or last year or two of violence
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I think has also kept people away. So I feel
like it's kind to step up. It's time to help people.
I think I have a lot of good things I
bring to the table my thirty years as a not
working in nonprofits. You know, you learn all about budgeting
and accounting and fundraising and leadership and being a good manager.
All those things I think will benefit me in the legislature.
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And I think one of the most important things I've
learned as a fundraiser is how much people care for
our community. And you know, that's a really strong message
when when we need something here in Dutchess County, I
think people rally around that, and I want to take
that sort of positive spirit into the legislature.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
That was really good. Yeah, what's driven you to this?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Not quite as good?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
But so this is this is a great question. So
you know, two years ago I was here and I
gave you an answer about sort of what kept me
away from running for so long, And at that point
I sort of mentioned the fact that I'm a new American.
I often felt alienated from the process. I didn't feel
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American enough to run. But as I was running, I
remembered something about myself, which is so My father was
in the Army. We moved in the Indian Army. We
moved every two years, and I realized that I was
always a new kid in school, and my way of
belonging to the place that I belonged that I was
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in was through contributing to it. And I think running
for office is an incredible, incredible honor to have, an
incredible privilege to have, and that's just another way in
which you contribute to the community that you live in.
And that for me is a way of belonging to
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a place. And I've done you know. I mean, I've
been in office for the last year and ten months
and I just love it. Uh, this is this is
work that I really love and I feel incredibly privileged
to have the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Now I know that this is your first time holding
this type of position.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Correct, well, I was on the Board of education earlier on.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Okay, So so what has been new for you?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You know what we've said, Wow, I just didn't know
that this is what it was going to be.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
What ha's been new is really opening my eyes to
the world around me. There's so much stuff that we
take for granted every single day. We take for granted
that we have a road to drive on. We take
for granted that we open our taps and we have
clean drinking water there right. We take for granted that
we have air to breathe we have. We take for
granted pretty often that we have electricity. Somebody something is
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making all that happen. Our lives, which we take for granted,
are actually orchestrated, finally by a group of people in
a very intricate machine around there. And so I almost
feel like I feel like a child who's sort of
suddenly seeing the world with new eyes. And it's a
pretty amazing feeling to have that and to learn how
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this world of ours works around us, and how we
can be a stretch set the change makers in this world,
how we can move in the direction that we want
to be and where we want to be and how
we want to live. And it's an amazing way of
like what we owe to each other, but really being
able to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Learning that the traffic lights did not grow it is
surprising and there's a lot of caring that goes into that.
Are there any issues, trishs that you find you be
particularly interested in. I know, with all your finance background,
you know, working for nonprofits and the finance was always
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such a central part of that, I suspect that would
be something you'd be interested in, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I'm actually really interested in being able to help with
the mental health crisis that we're having locally. Families are
waiting six months to a year to get their child
in with a therapist. I know, as a parent myself,
if my child needed to see a therapist, I'd be
there tomorrow with my child. But these people are telling
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us they're waiting, you know, six months or a year
to get in. So we need to have more mental
health resources pushed out into our community, to get more
providers into the area, and to to to focus on youth.
The pandemic for those two three years really hurt youth.
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You know, they weren't in school, they were isolated. Many
kids need help and that's something I want to focus on,
and so do the parents. Yes, no, you're You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
If you're just tuning in, you're listening to finding out
with Pete and Poe of gold and I'm the Power Golden.
We're here with Dutchess County Legislator Lisa Call from District
six and Trish Prunty, fundraiser for nonprofit who's a candidate
for County legislator seventh district.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You know, uh, it's the notion of the mental health issue.
You know, I so often we think we know people.
I'm saying, you know, you know a lot about numbers,
what do you think? And then just to find out
how much broader your vision is is a big deal.
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It's just things in your background that would lead you
to where you want. In other words, what I guess
the better way to put it is, what were the
things has formed your values? Do you want to give
us a shot with that, Lisa, to form my values? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:52):
I think one really important thing that form my values,
I mean, was that I was raised in a military household,
So notions of service, notions of dedication were really important.
Right if you signed up for something, you did and
no questions asked. The second thing that I think informed
my values was that I was raised a Catholic, and
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again central to that was notions of service. And the
third thing I think that really informed me was that
I was raised in a developing country. I was raised
in India, where we didn't take things for granted. You
may do with a lot of scarcity, and you were
also very very entrepreneurial in many ways because you had
to live within your means. And I think that's what
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I bring to the legislature interestingly, is the sense of
being very fiscally conservative and really looking hard at what
at the money that we spent and where we spend it.
And so as Trish talked about, you know, in the
mental health resources which we desperately need, I'm also really
interested in addressing the causes of many of the problems
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that we have, and they're all interconnected. If you don't
have housing, I mean, it's not impossible to imagine the
leap from not having housing, not knowing where you're going
to sleep at night, to developing some kind of mental
health issue depression, anxiety. Right, if you don't have enough
to eat, if you don't have a job, or if
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you have a job and you don't have transportation to
get there on time. Right, these are all issues. Or
parents you know have kids in school but they don't
have a job, they kind of get to school and
time to pick their kids up. Or they're worried about
their kids walking to school, which fortunately now is not
the case. They're worried about speeding. There's so many issues
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that contribute to this, and I think being able to
address them holistically is important.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, I'm total agreement with you, you know, on that issue,
because oftentimes we look at things as singular when nothing
in life happens as singular.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
It's all interrelated. What have you approved right now?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I hate a better understanding of the legislator that you're
very proud of. You know what, if someone who's a
layman who knows nothing about politics and just says you
knock on their door and I go, what have you
done for me?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I think one of the biggest responds.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
There are several things actually, even though I'm in the minority,
but one of the big things was really approving of
money to look at our waste management, so looking to
see what goes into our incinerator.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And this was a fight eight years to the making.
Last year I was able to approach this with a
sense of curiosity, work across the aisle, come to some
kind of agreement with my Republican colleagues who are opposed
to a study, and we're we're now looking at what
goes into our incinerators to hopefully address the solution that
we have and to divert the waste. Another important issue
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was that we appropriated funds for Oxford homes. So these
are smaller homes for those folks who are looking to
recover from some kind of addiction, so not taking it's
they're pure lad They're much smaller. It's a much more intimate,
supportive setting, and I think we need more of those
kinds of places for people to live in in community
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as they are trying to recover to get back on
their feet. Do we currently have that in Dutchess, Yes,
we do, and we appropriated money for two more last
year Oxford homes.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And I'm sure, what is it if you pulled back
and look at your own life, what were the things
that formed you of values and make you a candidate
worth looking at it?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, my mom and dad. Obviously, my dad worked at
the post office after he got out of World War Two.
He was a hard worker. When he retired he got
a pin for something like having twelve years of sickly
that he never used, so that sort of keep your
nose to the grind. He went to work every day,
whether he fel like going to work or not. My
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mom was a big volunteer, you know. She stayed home
with us, but she volunteered at the girls club. She
did a lot of work for women. She was always
about women's empowerment, so she was always encouraging us. We
always knew we'd go to college. We always knew we'd serve,
we'd serve people. And like Lisa, I was raised a
Catholic and service was always a main part of what
we did. I mean as kids. You know, she took
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us to volunteer at the food pantry, or she took
us to do. You know, clothing drives all those kinds
of things. So as an adult, it all just comes
flowing back into you because you know that's sort of
where you belong in those spaces.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So we have two Democrats, two Democrats who raised Catholic
with a lot of sense of duty and service, and
neither one of them as lazy as seems. You don't
even have lazy relatives.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I have a lazy dog.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't have that.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
No, you know, is there anything that's significant about your
opponents that should be mentioned? You don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I would love to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I don't have oneficant.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I am running unimposed.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
On you with your candidacy. I treat you everything you
want to say about your opponent.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, I don't honestly know that much about him, and
he's I suppose, out there just as much knocking doors
as I am. But I want to focus really on
what I want to achieve, and you know, housing, mental health,
and of course not leaving our youth and seniors behind.
Where I grew up, they had a very robust senior center.
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My mom went there three four times a week. They
even had a little gym and it costs ten cents
to go into the gym, so she would do that
every week. Then they'd collect all the dimes at the
end of the year and have a pizza party. But
it meant so much to her. Her friends were there,
they had card games, they you know, it was a
great thing for her. I just don't see that strength
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there in Dutchess County. You know, towns banding together that
have a really robust senior program. So I don't want
to leave seniors behind, and I don't want to leave
youth behind either.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You're running once again in high park, pleasant value area, right,
and you're the town of Poughkeepsie.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Does count of Ptipsie have a community center for youth?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
We have a senior center. We have a senior center
and now we have really great programming there because we
have an excellent supervisor, Rebecca Edwards, and we have a
great recreation director. But we don't have our own senior center.
But what I mean, sorry, a youth center. A youth center, right,
But we are trying to develop programs for youth. But
(27:47):
this is a real problem in this county, right, And
I think The Youth Opportunity Union project, which is again
one of the projects that was sort of disbanded essentially
by the county, speaks to that problem because you know,
we started something that we thought was going to address
a need for young people and then we just abandoned
it because of the lack of money. We also don't
(28:08):
have enough third spaces, just spaces where people can go
hang out, meet people for youth to just relax in
a way, maybe explore something that interests them.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
That are free, right, you can pay for it.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
What the Youth Opportunity Union was going to do was
to provide a swimming pool. We don't have many places
with those with special needs can go swim. We don't
really have access to therapeutic aqua aerobics for exercise for people.
Many of our kids have to go to another county
for that.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
So and when you're when you when you're speaking about
children going to another county, now you have transportation issues.
So now you're talking to a socioeconomic issue, you know,
because not every child can has transportation to go with
parents maybe both working and et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Right, you know, I can understand why you're running unopposed,
so I would not want to be up again against
you and Trish, you are not unopposed, But do you
have anything in the last thirty seconds that you'd like
to emphasize about your candidacy and Hyde Pap.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Well, for sure, i want to be in the legislature
because I'm going to be prepared. I'm going to work
hard for the people in my district but also county wide.
And like I said, I'm not going to leave seniors
and youth behind, going to work hard for them as well.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
So so do a lot of meet and greets, Go
knock on a lot of doors, and knock on doors,
say hello to the people.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I want to thank you so much for coming on
to finding out what Pete and the Poet gold, Lisa, Trish, Yes,
you want to say one with this?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Please come out and vote. Early voting starts October twenty fifth.
You can and you can vote then, or you can
vote on election day in November fourth.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Great, fantastic October twenty fifth, guys, all right, early voting.
Our listeners, thank you once again for tuning into finding
out with Pete the Poet Goal.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
We appreciate you
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