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Speaker 3 (00:11):
How good morning, you'll find out with Pete and the
poet Gold. I'm Peter and I'm the poet Goals, and
we're on the air with a group of people. So
we're going to be talking about the women's event from
March twelfth. But before we get to the event and
all the multi perspectives aren't, We're going to go right
to the poet Goal for her weekly poem prayer incantation. Gold,
please let it roll.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Okay, Peter, this is a new one that's going to
be in the book as well, be the poem living
Beyond Our Fears. It's untitled, but it goes like this.
I would have never chosen a different journey because it's
led me here a place of understanding to cherish all
I hold. So dear daughters I watched grow, cry, laugh,
and play, sisters I held close until their dying day
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dreams fulfilled in some lost in love and agony. Nevertheless,
no matter the cost, it all developed me. So I
love the footsteps and the climb through valleys, mountain peaks
and all along on many paths. I've had good company.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm crazy to be in on the company.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'll tell you that, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
But Gold, maybe you want to introduce what we're going
to be talking about today because you were the dominant
presence at Awa event called Poet Gold Knows Women Lead Duchess.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Absolutely well, you know, this is sort of I guess
our wrap, so to speak, with a great team of
individuals that all chipped in to help Nadia, Peterkin, Sandy
lm and of course engineering producer Uncle Mike and everyone
was present to help it happen. Poet Gold Knows Women
Lead Dutchess here at iHeart. And so we're just going
to be giving sort of like some feedback overview of
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what you thought about the event. What was some of
the highlights that you experienced and Peter, Yeah, let me.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Have you sort of the event really was. You know,
we brought together twenty five to third women leaders in
Dutchess County, and you know there were elected officials were
there that you know, so Sereno, Awa County Executive, the
mayor of Poughkeepsie, Vonne Flowers, the town of Poughkeepsie supervisor.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Edwards was there right.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
And then agency has like Leah Feldman from Family Services.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Of Karma Smallwood.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It was great, yes, But the highlight of it, with
the meat of it, was you running a discussion group
for the group on JEGE and I guess what I
would like you just thought out by saying, how did
that feel to you to be running a discussion with
all these women leaders in Dutchess County.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Well, I know, for myself and facilitating the workshop, it's
about building trust and and it was really nice to
see that everyone in the room was not pretentious, you know.
I mean they all of them have esteemed titles, but
it's something that Quincy Jones to say, keep your ego
at the door. And we were just all women in
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the space willing to be respectful and trust each other
and open up about our joys, open up about our fears,
and so I felt it was sort of transformative for
some of the people in the room as well.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, I agree with that. You know, Mike, you were
therefore dooing the engineering and the directing. Could you give
us a sense of what your impressions were.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Well, it always amazes me, first of all.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
What I say to Poet every time we do this
is you could never do this with a group of men.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Because it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, And I'm being honest, because men have big egos
and they wouldn't let their guard down like the women.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
The women in that room.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Two things that I noticed is that everyone was comfortable
with each other, very comfortable, and nobody left early.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
That's always a sign of a meeting like this.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
If you get in a meeting like this that you
don't want to be in, you find a reason to
get out of it.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
The women not only didn't leave early, they were lingering.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Around after the meeting was And these are all busy
women who have busy schedules, who had places to be.
But they enjoyed it so much, I think, and I
think it was to Gold's point, it was therapeutic for
a lot of them. I think I think they really
enjoyed it. And I think if you called them today
and said do you want to do it again, You're
going to get a resounding yes. So I think it's
going to be an even bigger group next year. But
I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the first one, and I
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enjoyed this one, and I thought it went, you know,
amazing to see that many powerful people in a room
that were able to just share their ideas, share their fears,
share their joys. I think there was a couple of
things that came up people were surprised at, even surprise themselves.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
There was a couple of people that I noticed.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And I know you you were wandering around too, that
they almost surprised themselves a couple of times. Some of
the things that you can see the look on their face,
like the almost like I can't believe I'm saying this
out loud, you know what I mean. So I thought
it was great. I mean, I thought it was It
was a great afternoon.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And to our listeners, if you, if you get the opportunity,
you know, go back and listen to some of the shows,
I think you will enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, it's on the podcast for the last two and
I thought the one we did last week was particularly
good about the fears. Joy is wonderful, but fear is fascinating,
right right.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I think Sandy you mentioned that that when I said
had you heard the show? You said, well, I listened
to the Fear one first.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
I did listen to the fear one first, and it
was more powerful almost than the joy one, because I
think fear moved so many people. And I also thought
that there was so much commonality between those fears that
that added to everybody sharing and being comfortable in the room.
So yeah, I thought that was a very interesting approach.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
And Nadia, you had mentioned something after the fact after
you once again you did a great job, by the
way in assisting us, and so that you, Sandy, you
pointed out that it was it felt sort of warming
or belonging to you to know that there were other
people who sort of have similar feelings.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Can you talk about that It.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Was a blessing to be able to participate in this
event for a second time and to hear everyone contributing
their joys and fears, and like, like you guys would
mention that these are busy women, they're doing amazing things
in the community, and they're human. They have fears and
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for them to share be for them to share it
was it just felt like very therapeutic to me to
hear these women be brave and share their fears and
their joys.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting that you said you listen
to the fear first. And that's the commonality I think
I can talk about with everybody, men and women. You know,
when people watch a NASCAR race, they don't watch to
see who wins, they watch for the wreck.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, and sports is like that.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
They're way I mean, if you think about sporting events,
you could just watch the last five minutes of every
sporting event and you know what happened. But they watch,
especially the races, because they want to see the res
So it's interesting that you said that you were more interested,
it was more powerful.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But that makes sense, right, right, absolutely, absolutely, And.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
You know I agree with Mike on the fear part. Right.
Also underline his opening comment about the difference between men
in the room and women in the room. And now,
I really like men. I actually used to be one, no,
but I but women really do relate to each other differently.
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And I think two of the differences between men and
women are the women are more cooperative or collaborative, and
they were also more compassionate. And you know, and both
of those things are good. And I would say, and
this is a personal opinion, the compassion and collaboration or
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not only good personal virtues, but they're good public virtues.
So in my opinion that I mean, obviously they are
good men leaders too, but women leaders are in general
better because of the traits are being compassionate and cooperative.
I know it's.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Controversial, no, No, Well, I think for men, I would
love to do a workshop similar for men, but I
know that maybe we'd need an extra thirty minutes just
to have the peel back, you know, the peel back
of the sort of like social construct that they've that
men have been raised in. You know that we raise
our boys, and women are partially responsible for that because
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we perpetuate some of the stereotypes and some of the
language that you know that men don't feel when we
teach our boys not to feel, and we know that
they feel. And so so I welcome a workshop like
that for men. I don't know if men would take me.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Interesting to get to the point where a workshop could
be help with men and women and that there wouldn't
be a difference between that that would kind of like
be the ultimate of that type of thing. And I
think what you've done is to help bring that about.
You're starting to help bring that about. Where I mean,
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like just some of the things that you've said and Peter,
the things I know about you, I think that that's
going a long way to helping that be more of
a mutual conversation rather than a male female.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's interesting the piggyback on what Peter said. First of all,
he didn't mean he likes gies. He meant that he anyway,
that was kind of creepy. But piggyback on what he
said was I think the difference that I see gold
is that women are more supportive of each other. Men
don't support each other, you know what I mean. Men
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are competitive. Women are competitive too.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Don't get me wrong. There's very competitive women.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But in the end, they support each other and almost
like because of what women have gone through over the years,
they have to support each other because they're still fighting
that battle. I mean, anybody who thinks the equality is
out there is nuts.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
It's not out there.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Women are not getting paid what they should be getting paid.
That whole argument that would go on forever. It's gotten
a little better, maybe only because of women have fought
for it, and I think they're much more. They're interested
in seeing women as a whole progress and get better.
Men are interested in seeing themselves get better. Honestly, I've
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said all along, I can't wait till we have a
female president. I think it's long overdue in this country.
I'd love to see a powerful female get in that
office and see what they could do. I think you'd
see a huge difference because just that point they would
be supportive of the entire country, not just themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, Mike, who thought Mike was going to be the
radical today? But I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying
you're right.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But my least favorite word.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
If you're just tuning in, you're listening to Finding Out
with Pete and the Poet Gold, and I'm the Poet Gold,
and we're having a wrap up discussion about the event
that I led called Poet Gold Knows Women Lead Dutchess,
with Nadia Peterkin, who was there to assist us that day,
and Sandy lomb as well who joined us as well,
and Uncle Mike, and obviously Peter myself.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You know, I'm like to I help people go to
things they might remember from like your favorite moment of
the event, Sanza, do you have.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
A I there were a number of strong moments that
I walked away with, but one person, and I forget
her name. One of the things she said was that
I've thought about almost every day is I will learn
nothing from anything I say today.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That was Suprina. Yeah, that was a quote. Yes, that was.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Just it got me thinking a lot and probably talking
a little bit less and listening a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Gold. You want to say, who Soprina is?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, Suprina is a local artist also a gallery owner.
She owns a gallery called The Conveyor on Main Street.
She deals with found found object arts and social issues
through arts such as the environment as well, you know,
and raise people awareness through her art work.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah. And when you say it is found art, found
objects found she takes junk right and turn and transforms
it into art.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
One of the things she does is makes it takes
a saying like I will learn nothing from what I
say today, and puts that in the jazz your attractive way,
and so you read it and you appreciate it in
a different perspective.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
And she'll use you know, plastics pharticularly plastic a lot,
because you know, plastic is polluting the earth. And so
she raised your level of awareness through the arts that
she she creates. She made a gun out of yes, yes,
she made a gun out of Teddy Bears.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, yeah, Nadia, do you have a moment you remember?
Speaker 6 (12:54):
I could.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Honestly, it's an intimidating I was intimidated, really okay at
first and even the second time. It's intimidating because these
are amazing women, like I said, that are doing big
things in the Hudson Valley, but they're all so transparent
and kind, and that was just my fear, and they
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were able to listening to them. They were able to
help me conquer my fears, and like I said, it's
just such a powerful, amazing room to be in with
that was I'm so grateful.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
And some people shared such personal stories, so I thought
that we're very moving and meaningful, and I think everybody
that was in the room was able to relate to
everything that everybody said. But some of those powerful stories
that came out really were I think wouldn't wouldn't have
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come out in a different setting, in a different type
of meeting. So I thought that that was very moving, and.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Nadie, I think you actually, of course the spirit of
the event, as well as going to be quote of
you saying I was intimidated, you being open about that
and talking about the way you've benefited fi and worked
through it. Men, we start off by not being intimidated.
We eat, you know, we eat our fears, we don't
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express them. So I think you're bringing out the spirit
in a good way there.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
And I think also just just what you just said, Peter,
is really all fear based. And it's one of the
reasons why I wanted to my book is focusing on,
you know, our joy and so that living beyond our fears,
so that we can connect with our joys and understanding
that a lot of the things that we do are
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rooted in our fears. You know, even when you say, well,
men sort of want to walk in and own the room,
they want to own the room because they're afraid of
the room, you know, so to speak, in some aspects.
But it's coming out, you know, very very differently.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Nobody's gonna deny that.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So it's interesting not you said you were intimidated. And
what I've learned over the years is you have to
be able to that fine line between intimidation and respect.
A lot of times respect you're you're respecting the people,
and you did that, you were respecting everybody in that
room because you knew how powerful and busy they were,
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and you felt like you were intimidated, but it really
was showing respect.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
That's what I find.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I'm in rooms sometimes with some billionaires and people that
are very powerful, and I don't ever feel intimidated, but
I'm respectful. I'm respectful of who they are and why
we're there. So I think you got to there's a
fine line. You got to work there.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
There's a moment.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Gold and I had a moment during the during the
luncheon that didn't get on the air, when Peter's voice
came out of nowhere, and so we were all looking.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
At each other, where is Peter.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Now We're scrambling because we had a wire microphones, and
Peter thought he could take him in another room.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
I think you had the town supervisor.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
In there with you. Yeah, Rebecca Edwards.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
All of a sudden goals like tell him to stop
turn that off, and then I think you went gallous.
I did, but he didn't realize that, you know, he
could be heard. So all of a sudden, Peter's voice
started interrupting everything, and that was a Moment's looking at me.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Like, yeah, I mean that was an example of me
being confident and ignorant, you know, so I didn't know
the way the microphones worked and I was a bit
of a ruckus.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
It was it was it was funny. It's sort of
like that God voice moment that you're going, wait a minute,
you know, where's this sound coming from? I think for myself,
just the you know, there wasn't just one moment for me,
you know, it's in these events. It's always just I
am appreciative of one when people show up, you know,
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and and to the fact that people allow themselves to
be humble and the trust, the trust that that takes
place in the space, because it does take trust, you know,
and it takes trust instantly.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It's like we don't have all day.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
You know, you're either going to decide that you're going
to engage in the process or you're not. And growth happens,
as we all know, through engagement. So you're not doing
anything for me, you're doing your participating in the process
for yourself. And do you trust yourself in that moment?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
And I didn't use the word trust, but that might
be the way I was really looking for that. Women
trust each other more readily than men do. And you know,
and then there's also the way in which you know,
Gold has some abilities, and one of the abilities she
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has issues able to cast the spell on people, individuals
and groups. So your cares to trust spell on people
trust and so it uh promotes everybody's uh trusting talents.
But they got promoted on that thing.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I think Also, it's it's that saying of do no harm,
you know, do no harm. You've come into a space
with with the only agenda is I hope we grow,
you know, and and I hope that there can be
empathy in the room. And what's what's set in the
room stays in the room. Obviously, though we know we
aired stuff on the radio, but everyone knows about that,
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you know, everyone's told that in advance. But it's it's
really that do no harm. We're not here to uh
you know, up one another. We're not here to try
to gain anything for our individual uh tangible outcomes. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's it's not it's not that event.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And so that's that's why when I get calls about it,
sometimes I'll say, just show up.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I'll get a few calls where people will ask, well,
do I need to prepare anything? Should I say something?
And I'm like, just show up, Just show up and eat.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I show up.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
And once again, if you're just tuning in, you're listening
to finding out with Pete the Poet Gold, Peter Leon
and I'm the poet Gold, and we're here today talking
about poet Gold knows women lead duchess. This is our
wrap up conversation with and I'm going to say, with
a great team of individuals, it was so wonderful having
you both on board, Nadia and Sandy to help. It
just made the event go more smoothly. And it takes
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noise out of my head, you know, because I'm the
person in my head constantly going, Okay, where's the cake?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You know, there's the food.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Set up right, who's taking the pictures, who's greeting who?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You know, all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well I'm laughing because Gold says, you know, is set
up right. And what she means by that is it
set up exactly the way in accordance with my whim
the So it's Gold sees the big picture and wants
to make sure it's all swell. And you know, my
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favorite moment of the event, if I could answer the
question myself, is there was a moment where common small
Common small with Common, Uh, Miguel, I'm sorry, yeah, McCammon
macguill i, you know where the name as well as
like Colin mcguill It was her birthday, and Gold said
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after her comments, oh and happy birthday, just as in
a side it was our eighty fifth birthday. And the
Common has been a racial justice advocate in the community
for you know, forty or fifty years. And with that,
just the room genuinely and easily and effortlessly started seeing
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a happy birthday. And it was really happy birthday to Common,
whereas my own feeling as if men were doing that,
it would be a happy birth and it would be
sort of self reflecting in other words, aren't we swell?
That was saying a happy birthday to somebody, whereas with
this event completely took me off balance the way they
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were really doing it to make her feel better. And
it was done in Unison. It was done effortlessly, it
was done spontaneously. It was something.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It was a joyful moment. It was a joyful moment.
It was it was a giving, you know, moment, not easy.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
You have an impression of that moment.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
I've known Carbon for many years and I was delighted
to see her at this event's time and what she
had to say, what she shared was great. I'm sure
you could pull up. Yeah it was the clips, but yeah,
that was so it was so warm and happy.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yes, you had a unique perspective that you were one
of the guests last year and then this year you
were part of the management. Did you have an idea
or perspectives on those two different roles.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, and both roles were very valuable. The first year
being in participant was very powerful because I'd never been
in a room with that many powerful women before and
to participate and find the warmth that was in the
room then and the information that was shared was very
meaningful and left an impression, pardon me. And then this
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year observing was very interesting because it was easier to
see the dynamics of the room when you're not a
participant much and the way that people fed off of
one another and shared stories off of what something somebody
else would say and add on. So there was a
very strong dynamic in the room and it was enjoyable
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to sit back and watch that and watch that occur
because it just made the whole process a little bit
more meaningful, even for the first year when I was
an attendee, so I thought I thought having both of
those perspectives were great.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Yeah, this year, everyone participated, participated and shared like everyone
did and it was so nice to hear everyone they
were everyone is ready and they shared and it was
good vibes in the rooms.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It was so beautiful. I can't wait for next year.
That's good we doing. No I think, I think, what
what what I do? Have a moment.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I think when they when everyone came to the entrance
and not not the opening door, but when they got
back here to the room and everyone started coming in
and I want to stopped them for a moment so
that you could give out, you know, the hats or
whatever that needed to be given out. But the enthusiasm
that was present right at that, it was like, I'm like, okay,
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all right, folks are bringing the energy.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I love this. You know, they want to be here.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
And the hats you casually mentioned black hats to say
on it poet gold knows in gold and then the
white let us say women lead justice And there's a
logo of iHeart Radio, which we were very appreciative of
all the support and that they gave and then the
logo of poet Gold herself on the hat.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
So I think it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
As much as I was amazed, I'm sorry, Gold, but
as much as I was amazed at the openness and
what you've been talking about, how they share I had.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
I stepped forward.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
In the meeting and I felt bad doing it, but
a lot of women had fears about health, but nobody
wanted to talk about mental health. And I finally I
had to break the ice and say, look, that's on
the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room. I'm used
to that, but that's such a serious problem here, and
you have several agencies now, like Leah is addressing it
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with children in Dutchess County. They're going to have mental
health services for children.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Finally.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But once I did that, and I was really reluctant
to do it because I didn't mean to butt in,
but everybody opened up absolutely once that, you know, once
that wall was taken up for all Kays, and I
was surprised that they didn't do it on their own
because everything else was open, everything else was on the table.
They discussed it, but that wasn't going to happen, I
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don't think. But then as soon as somebody else suggested it.
We had a couple of really amazing stories about mental
health that came out and it started, and the conversation
that the tables were talking about it not just on
the microphones.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
No, that's real. It was a real countrybution. And you know,
I know Mayor Flowers was particularly articulate about mental health
issues on a private level as well as the public.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Line with a grandson, and and Madeline Hediquez brought a
perspective to the table also about cultural awareness and mental health.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
But that's issue. It is just how you can be
cultural cultural you can be prevented from seeking helpful mental health. Yeah,
there was a very important moment. And you know, one
of the things that struck me was when the thing
was over. When the event was over and Gold closed
the thing, there was people stood up and there was
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just all this energy in the room just it was
all buzz. It was all a feeling built in a
kind of friendliness and accomplishment and common accomplishment that I
really think is valuable and which you can pick up
from the tape that we ran last week.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
And that's and that's the other factor that you know,
no matter what type of work you do, no matter
what your hierarchy is. You know, we had a lot
of executives in the room. And also, no matter what
your view is politically, that there's a space, there's a
human space that brings us all together. And that's part
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of what these series are about. Women ly duchess is
understanding that there's a human space in which we can
all together come together and get work done. And that's
the space for my humble opinion that we should be
where we should start our conversation, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
And you know, we're just starting with the basic fact
that in Due County we are one of the most
women led counties in all of New York State, if
not the most women lad But that's a very important
public fact that we don't trumpet and it's the basis
of our events here. Women lead Duchess. That's an important
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thing to know, and that's one of the reasons we're
better than the other counties.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
We don't start any trouble, Peter.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You know, it's interesting, as I think about it now,
Gold that the point you were talking about there there
was no politics in that room, right, and you had
some people from very different political perspectives in that room.
The top leaders especially are on different sides of the aisle. Yes,
but that never came up right whatsoever. If you had
men in the room, that would have been the first
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five minutes that would have been up there, there would
have been a fight from somebody they didn't like, you know,
your liberal viewer, you know. So I found that fascinating
because to everyone's point, they are all powerful women in
the room, but nobody went.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
There right right, right right then.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And I look at that as sort of, you know,
as have friends that used to say might throw a party.
I had to be a party promoter. And they're like, well,
you you're inviting this group of people. In this group,
you don't get along with that group of people. And
I'm like, and you know, and it's it's it's what's
the centerpiece doing. If I go to the door with
a certain energy with the people who don't get along,
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then that manifests in the room. But it's how you
welcome people into a space. And I think as human beings,
for the most part, we know how to behave. You know,
we're going to behave.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We may not choose to behave all the time.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
She looked directly.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
We part. Do we mean women or we mean men?
Men that could behaving? Like I say, I'm not against men,
but you know, we meaning men, we like to strut,
strut around and show war for a little. No matter
how good we are, we always have like a ten percent.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I did it well, you know, if I ever do it,
if I ever do a workshop with with men, I
give you that space to be able to you know,
fifteen minutes strut all you want, Okay, fifteen minutes is over.
Now let's get let's do the get the and let's
get the work. You know, so I think I think
that's it right, Okay, So thank you once again for
listening to Finding Out with Pete and Poet Gold. We
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appreciate you always for listening to the show. Nadia, Sandy,
Uncle Mike, Peter, thank you for allowing and helping. Actually
Poet Gold knows women lead Dutchess come off so well.
Thank you, Amen, thank you, thank you,
The views and opinions expressed in the following programmer, those
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's staff management or ownership.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
How good morning, you'll find out with Pete and the
poet Gold. I'm Peter and I'm the poet Goals, and
we're on the air with a group of people. So
we're going to be talking about the women's event from
March twelfth. But before we get to the event and
all the multi perspectives aren't, We're going to go right
to the poet Goal for her weekly poem prayer incantation. Gold,
please let it roll.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Okay, Peter, this is a new one that's going to
be in the book as well, be the poem living
Beyond Our Fears. It's untitled, but it goes like this.
I would have never chosen a different journey because it's
led me here a place of understanding to cherish all
I hold. So dear daughters I watched grow, cry, laugh,
and play, sisters I held close until their dying day
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dreams fulfilled in some lost in love and agony. Nevertheless,
no matter the cost, it all developed me. So I
love the footsteps and the climb through valleys, mountain peaks
and all along on many paths. I've had good company.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm crazy to be in on the company.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'll tell you that, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
But Gold, maybe you want to introduce what we're going
to be talking about today because you were the dominant
presence at Awa event called Poet Gold Knows Women Lead Duchess.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Absolutely well, you know, this is sort of I guess
our wrap, so to speak, with a great team of
individuals that all chipped in to help Nadia, Peterkin, Sandy
lm and of course engineering producer Uncle Mike and everyone
was present to help it happen. Poet Gold Knows Women
Lead Dutchess here at iHeart. And so we're just going
to be giving sort of like some feedback overview of
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what you thought about the event. What was some of
the highlights that you experienced and Peter, Yeah, let me.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Have you sort of the event really was. You know,
we brought together twenty five to third women leaders in
Dutchess County, and you know there were elected officials were
there that you know, so Sereno, Awa County Executive, the
mayor of Poughkeepsie, Vonne Flowers, the town of Poughkeepsie supervisor.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Edwards was there right.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
And then agency has like Leah Feldman from Family Services.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Of Karma Smallwood.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It was great, yes, But the highlight of it, with
the meat of it, was you running a discussion group
for the group on JEGE and I guess what I
would like you just thought out by saying, how did
that feel to you to be running a discussion with
all these women leaders in Dutchess County.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Well, I know, for myself and facilitating the workshop, it's
about building trust and and it was really nice to
see that everyone in the room was not pretentious, you know.
I mean they all of them have esteemed titles, but
it's something that Quincy Jones to say, keep your ego
at the door. And we were just all women in
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the space willing to be respectful and trust each other
and open up about our joys, open up about our fears,
and so I felt it was sort of transformative for
some of the people in the room as well.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, I agree with that. You know, Mike, you were
therefore dooing the engineering and the directing. Could you give
us a sense of what your impressions were.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Well, it always amazes me, first of all.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
What I say to Poet every time we do this
is you could never do this with a group of men.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Because it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, And I'm being honest, because men have big egos
and they wouldn't let their guard down like the women.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
The women in that room.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Two things that I noticed is that everyone was comfortable
with each other, very comfortable, and nobody left early.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
That's always a sign of a meeting like this.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
If you get in a meeting like this that you
don't want to be in, you find a reason to
get out of it.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
The women not only didn't leave early, they were lingering.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Around after the meeting was And these are all busy
women who have busy schedules, who had places to be.
But they enjoyed it so much, I think, and I
think it was to Gold's point, it was therapeutic for
a lot of them. I think I think they really
enjoyed it. And I think if you called them today
and said do you want to do it again, You're
going to get a resounding yes. So I think it's
going to be an even bigger group next year. But
I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the first one, and I
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enjoyed this one, and I thought it went, you know,
amazing to see that many powerful people in a room
that were able to just share their ideas, share their fears,
share their joys. I think there was a couple of
things that came up people were surprised at, even surprise themselves.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
There was a couple of people that I noticed.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And I know you you were wandering around too, that
they almost surprised themselves a couple of times. Some of
the things that you can see the look on their face,
like the almost like I can't believe I'm saying this
out loud, you know what I mean. So I thought
it was great. I mean, I thought it was It
was a great afternoon.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And to our listeners, if you, if you get the opportunity,
you know, go back and listen to some of the shows,
I think you will enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, it's on the podcast for the last two and
I thought the one we did last week was particularly
good about the fears. Joy is wonderful, but fear is fascinating,
right right.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I think Sandy you mentioned that that when I said
had you heard the show? You said, well, I listened
to the Fear one first.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
I did listen to the fear one first, and it
was more powerful almost than the joy one, because I
think fear moved so many people. And I also thought
that there was so much commonality between those fears that
that added to everybody sharing and being comfortable in the room.
So yeah, I thought that was a very interesting approach.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
And Nadia, you had mentioned something after the fact after
you once again you did a great job, by the
way in assisting us, and so that you, Sandy, you
pointed out that it was it felt sort of warming
or belonging to you to know that there were other
people who sort of have similar feelings.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Can you talk about that It.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Was a blessing to be able to participate in this
event for a second time and to hear everyone contributing
their joys and fears, and like, like you guys would
mention that these are busy women, they're doing amazing things
in the community, and they're human. They have fears and
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for them to share be for them to share it
was it just felt like very therapeutic to me to
hear these women be brave and share their fears and
their joys.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting that you said you listen
to the fear first. And that's the commonality I think
I can talk about with everybody, men and women. You know,
when people watch a NASCAR race, they don't watch to
see who wins, they watch for the wreck.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, and sports is like that.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
They're way I mean, if you think about sporting events,
you could just watch the last five minutes of every
sporting event and you know what happened. But they watch,
especially the races, because they want to see the res
So it's interesting that you said that you were more interested,
it was more powerful.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But that makes sense, right, right, absolutely, absolutely, And.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
You know I agree with Mike on the fear part. Right.
Also underline his opening comment about the difference between men
in the room and women in the room. And now,
I really like men. I actually used to be one, no,
but I but women really do relate to each other differently.
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And I think two of the differences between men and
women are the women are more cooperative or collaborative, and
they were also more compassionate. And you know, and both
of those things are good. And I would say, and
this is a personal opinion, the compassion and collaboration or
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not only good personal virtues, but they're good public virtues.
So in my opinion that I mean, obviously they are
good men leaders too, but women leaders are in general
better because of the traits are being compassionate and cooperative.
I know it's.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Controversial, no, No, Well, I think for men, I would
love to do a workshop similar for men, but I
know that maybe we'd need an extra thirty minutes just
to have the peel back, you know, the peel back
of the sort of like social construct that they've that
men have been raised in. You know that we raise
our boys, and women are partially responsible for that because
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we perpetuate some of the stereotypes and some of the
language that you know that men don't feel when we
teach our boys not to feel, and we know that
they feel. And so so I welcome a workshop like
that for men. I don't know if men would take me.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Interesting to get to the point where a workshop could
be help with men and women and that there wouldn't
be a difference between that that would kind of like
be the ultimate of that type of thing. And I
think what you've done is to help bring that about.
You're starting to help bring that about. Where I mean,
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like just some of the things that you've said and Peter,
the things I know about you, I think that that's
going a long way to helping that be more of
a mutual conversation rather than a male female.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's interesting the piggyback on what Peter said. First of all,
he didn't mean he likes gies. He meant that he anyway,
that was kind of creepy. But piggyback on what he
said was I think the difference that I see gold
is that women are more supportive of each other. Men
don't support each other, you know what I mean. Men
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are competitive. Women are competitive too.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Don't get me wrong. There's very competitive women.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But in the end, they support each other and almost
like because of what women have gone through over the years,
they have to support each other because they're still fighting
that battle. I mean, anybody who thinks the equality is
out there is nuts.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
It's not out there.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Women are not getting paid what they should be getting paid.
That whole argument that would go on forever. It's gotten
a little better, maybe only because of women have fought
for it, and I think they're much more. They're interested
in seeing women as a whole progress and get better.
Men are interested in seeing themselves get better. Honestly, I've
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said all along, I can't wait till we have a
female president. I think it's long overdue in this country.
I'd love to see a powerful female get in that
office and see what they could do. I think you'd
see a huge difference because just that point they would
be supportive of the entire country, not just themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, Mike, who thought Mike was going to be the
radical today? But I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying
you're right.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But my least favorite word.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
If you're just tuning in, you're listening to Finding Out
with Pete and the Poet Gold, and I'm the Poet Gold,
and we're having a wrap up discussion about the event
that I led called Poet Gold Knows Women Lead Dutchess,
with Nadia Peterkin, who was there to assist us that day,
and Sandy lomb as well who joined us as well,
and Uncle Mike, and obviously Peter myself.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You know, I'm like to I help people go to
things they might remember from like your favorite moment of
the event, Sanza, do you have.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
A I there were a number of strong moments that
I walked away with, but one person, and I forget
her name. One of the things she said was that
I've thought about almost every day is I will learn
nothing from anything I say today.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That was Suprina. Yeah, that was a quote. Yes, that was.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Just it got me thinking a lot and probably talking
a little bit less and listening a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Gold. You want to say, who Soprina is?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, Suprina is a local artist also a gallery owner.
She owns a gallery called The Conveyor on Main Street.
She deals with found found object arts and social issues
through arts such as the environment as well, you know,
and raise people awareness through her art work.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah. And when you say it is found art, found
objects found she takes junk right and turn and transforms
it into art.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
One of the things she does is makes it takes
a saying like I will learn nothing from what I
say today, and puts that in the jazz your attractive way,
and so you read it and you appreciate it in
a different perspective.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
And she'll use you know, plastics pharticularly plastic a lot,
because you know, plastic is polluting the earth. And so
she raised your level of awareness through the arts that
she she creates. She made a gun out of yes, yes,
she made a gun out of Teddy Bears.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, yeah, Nadia, do you have a moment you remember?
Speaker 6 (12:54):
I could.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Honestly, it's an intimidating I was intimidated, really okay at
first and even the second time. It's intimidating because these
are amazing women, like I said, that are doing big
things in the Hudson Valley, but they're all so transparent
and kind, and that was just my fear, and they
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were able to listening to them. They were able to
help me conquer my fears, and like I said, it's
just such a powerful, amazing room to be in with
that was I'm so grateful.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
And some people shared such personal stories, so I thought
that we're very moving and meaningful, and I think everybody
that was in the room was able to relate to
everything that everybody said. But some of those powerful stories
that came out really were I think wouldn't wouldn't have
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come out in a different setting, in a different type
of meeting. So I thought that that was very moving, and.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Nadie, I think you actually, of course the spirit of
the event, as well as going to be quote of
you saying I was intimidated, you being open about that
and talking about the way you've benefited fi and worked
through it. Men, we start off by not being intimidated.
We eat, you know, we eat our fears, we don't
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express them. So I think you're bringing out the spirit
in a good way there.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
And I think also just just what you just said, Peter,
is really all fear based. And it's one of the
reasons why I wanted to my book is focusing on,
you know, our joy and so that living beyond our fears,
so that we can connect with our joys and understanding
that a lot of the things that we do are
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rooted in our fears. You know, even when you say, well,
men sort of want to walk in and own the room,
they want to own the room because they're afraid of
the room, you know, so to speak, in some aspects.
But it's coming out, you know, very very differently.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Nobody's gonna deny that.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So it's interesting not you said you were intimidated. And
what I've learned over the years is you have to
be able to that fine line between intimidation and respect.
A lot of times respect you're you're respecting the people,
and you did that, you were respecting everybody in that
room because you knew how powerful and busy they were,
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and you felt like you were intimidated, but it really
was showing respect.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
That's what I find.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I'm in rooms sometimes with some billionaires and people that
are very powerful, and I don't ever feel intimidated, but
I'm respectful. I'm respectful of who they are and why
we're there. So I think you got to there's a
fine line. You got to work there.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
There's a moment.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Gold and I had a moment during the during the
luncheon that didn't get on the air, when Peter's voice
came out of nowhere, and so we were all looking.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
At each other, where is Peter.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Now We're scrambling because we had a wire microphones, and
Peter thought he could take him in another room.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
I think you had the town supervisor.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
In there with you. Yeah, Rebecca Edwards.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
All of a sudden goals like tell him to stop
turn that off, and then I think you went gallous.
I did, but he didn't realize that, you know, he
could be heard. So all of a sudden, Peter's voice
started interrupting everything, and that was a Moment's looking at me.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Like, yeah, I mean that was an example of me
being confident and ignorant, you know, so I didn't know
the way the microphones worked and I was a bit
of a ruckus.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
It was it was it was funny. It's sort of
like that God voice moment that you're going, wait a minute,
you know, where's this sound coming from? I think for myself,
just the you know, there wasn't just one moment for me,
you know, it's in these events. It's always just I
am appreciative of one when people show up, you know,
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and and to the fact that people allow themselves to
be humble and the trust, the trust that that takes
place in the space, because it does take trust, you know,
and it takes trust instantly.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It's like we don't have all day.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
You know, you're either going to decide that you're going
to engage in the process or you're not. And growth happens,
as we all know, through engagement. So you're not doing
anything for me, you're doing your participating in the process
for yourself. And do you trust yourself in that moment?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
And I didn't use the word trust, but that might
be the way I was really looking for that. Women
trust each other more readily than men do. And you know,
and then there's also the way in which you know,
Gold has some abilities, and one of the abilities she
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has issues able to cast the spell on people, individuals
and groups. So your cares to trust spell on people
trust and so it uh promotes everybody's uh trusting talents.
But they got promoted on that thing.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I think Also, it's it's that saying of do no harm,
you know, do no harm. You've come into a space
with with the only agenda is I hope we grow,
you know, and and I hope that there can be
empathy in the room. And what's what's set in the
room stays in the room. Obviously, though we know we
aired stuff on the radio, but everyone knows about that,
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you know, everyone's told that in advance. But it's it's
really that do no harm. We're not here to uh
you know, up one another. We're not here to try
to gain anything for our individual uh tangible outcomes. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's it's not it's not that event.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And so that's that's why when I get calls about it,
sometimes I'll say, just show up.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I'll get a few calls where people will ask, well,
do I need to prepare anything? Should I say something?
And I'm like, just show up, Just show up and eat.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I show up.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
And once again, if you're just tuning in, you're listening
to finding out with Pete the Poet Gold, Peter Leon
and I'm the poet Gold, and we're here today talking
about poet Gold knows women lead duchess. This is our
wrap up conversation with and I'm going to say, with
a great team of individuals, it was so wonderful having
you both on board, Nadia and Sandy to help. It
just made the event go more smoothly. And it takes
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noise out of my head, you know, because I'm the
person in my head constantly going, Okay, where's the cake?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You know, there's the food.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Set up right, who's taking the pictures, who's greeting who?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You know, all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well I'm laughing because Gold says, you know, is set
up right. And what she means by that is it
set up exactly the way in accordance with my whim
the So it's Gold sees the big picture and wants
to make sure it's all swell. And you know, my
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favorite moment of the event, if I could answer the
question myself, is there was a moment where common small
Common small with Common, Uh, Miguel, I'm sorry, yeah, McCammon
macguill i, you know where the name as well as
like Colin mcguill It was her birthday, and Gold said
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after her comments, oh and happy birthday, just as in
a side it was our eighty fifth birthday. And the
Common has been a racial justice advocate in the community
for you know, forty or fifty years. And with that,
just the room genuinely and easily and effortlessly started seeing
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a happy birthday. And it was really happy birthday to Common,
whereas my own feeling as if men were doing that,
it would be a happy birth and it would be
sort of self reflecting in other words, aren't we swell?
That was saying a happy birthday to somebody, whereas with
this event completely took me off balance the way they
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were really doing it to make her feel better. And
it was done in Unison. It was done effortlessly, it
was done spontaneously. It was something.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It was a joyful moment. It was a joyful moment.
It was it was a giving, you know, moment, not easy.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
You have an impression of that moment.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
I've known Carbon for many years and I was delighted
to see her at this event's time and what she
had to say, what she shared was great. I'm sure
you could pull up. Yeah it was the clips, but yeah,
that was so it was so warm and happy.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yes, you had a unique perspective that you were one
of the guests last year and then this year you
were part of the management. Did you have an idea
or perspectives on those two different roles.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, and both roles were very valuable. The first year
being in participant was very powerful because I'd never been
in a room with that many powerful women before and
to participate and find the warmth that was in the
room then and the information that was shared was very
meaningful and left an impression, pardon me. And then this
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year observing was very interesting because it was easier to
see the dynamics of the room when you're not a
participant much and the way that people fed off of
one another and shared stories off of what something somebody
else would say and add on. So there was a
very strong dynamic in the room and it was enjoyable
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to sit back and watch that and watch that occur
because it just made the whole process a little bit
more meaningful, even for the first year when I was
an attendee, so I thought I thought having both of
those perspectives were great.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Yeah, this year, everyone participated, participated and shared like everyone
did and it was so nice to hear everyone they
were everyone is ready and they shared and it was
good vibes in the rooms.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It was so beautiful. I can't wait for next year.
That's good we doing. No I think, I think, what
what what I do? Have a moment.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I think when they when everyone came to the entrance
and not not the opening door, but when they got
back here to the room and everyone started coming in
and I want to stopped them for a moment so
that you could give out, you know, the hats or
whatever that needed to be given out. But the enthusiasm
that was present right at that, it was like, I'm like, okay,
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all right, folks are bringing the energy.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I love this. You know, they want to be here.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
And the hats you casually mentioned black hats to say
on it poet gold knows in gold and then the
white let us say women lead justice And there's a
logo of iHeart Radio, which we were very appreciative of
all the support and that they gave and then the
logo of poet Gold herself on the hat.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
So I think it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
As much as I was amazed, I'm sorry, Gold, but
as much as I was amazed at the openness and
what you've been talking about, how they share I had.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
I stepped forward.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
In the meeting and I felt bad doing it, but
a lot of women had fears about health, but nobody
wanted to talk about mental health. And I finally I
had to break the ice and say, look, that's on
the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room. I'm used
to that, but that's such a serious problem here, and
you have several agencies now, like Leah is addressing it
(25:19):
with children in Dutchess County. They're going to have mental
health services for children.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Finally.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
But once I did that, and I was really reluctant
to do it because I didn't mean to butt in,
but everybody opened up absolutely once that, you know, once
that wall was taken up for all Kays, and I
was surprised that they didn't do it on their own
because everything else was open, everything else was on the table.
They discussed it, but that wasn't going to happen, I
(25:45):
don't think. But then as soon as somebody else suggested it.
We had a couple of really amazing stories about mental
health that came out and it started, and the conversation
that the tables were talking about it not just on
the microphones.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
No, that's real. It was a real countrybution. And you know,
I know Mayor Flowers was particularly articulate about mental health
issues on a private level as well as the public.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Line with a grandson, and and Madeline Hediquez brought a
perspective to the table also about cultural awareness and mental health.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
But that's issue. It is just how you can be
cultural cultural you can be prevented from seeking helpful mental health. Yeah,
there was a very important moment. And you know, one
of the things that struck me was when the thing
was over. When the event was over and Gold closed
the thing, there was people stood up and there was
(26:40):
just all this energy in the room just it was
all buzz. It was all a feeling built in a
kind of friendliness and accomplishment and common accomplishment that I
really think is valuable and which you can pick up
from the tape that we ran last week.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
And that's and that's the other factor that you know,
no matter what type of work you do, no matter
what your hierarchy is. You know, we had a lot
of executives in the room. And also, no matter what
your view is politically, that there's a space, there's a
human space that brings us all together. And that's part
(27:20):
of what these series are about. Women ly duchess is
understanding that there's a human space in which we can
all together come together and get work done. And that's
the space for my humble opinion that we should be
where we should start our conversation, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
And you know, we're just starting with the basic fact
that in Due County we are one of the most
women led counties in all of New York State, if
not the most women lad But that's a very important
public fact that we don't trumpet and it's the basis
of our events here. Women lead Duchess. That's an important
(27:59):
thing to know, and that's one of the reasons we're
better than the other counties.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
We don't start any trouble, Peter.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You know, it's interesting, as I think about it now,
Gold that the point you were talking about there there
was no politics in that room, right, and you had
some people from very different political perspectives in that room.
The top leaders especially are on different sides of the aisle. Yes,
but that never came up right whatsoever. If you had
men in the room, that would have been the first
(28:30):
five minutes that would have been up there, there would
have been a fight from somebody they didn't like, you know,
your liberal viewer, you know. So I found that fascinating
because to everyone's point, they are all powerful women in
the room, but nobody went.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
There right right, right right then.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And I look at that as sort of, you know,
as have friends that used to say might throw a party.
I had to be a party promoter. And they're like, well,
you you're inviting this group of people. In this group,
you don't get along with that group of people. And
I'm like, and you know, and it's it's it's what's
the centerpiece doing. If I go to the door with
a certain energy with the people who don't get along,
(29:07):
then that manifests in the room. But it's how you
welcome people into a space. And I think as human beings,
for the most part, we know how to behave. You know,
we're going to behave.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
We may not choose to behave all the time.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
She looked directly.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
We part. Do we mean women or we mean men?
Men that could behaving? Like I say, I'm not against men,
but you know, we meaning men, we like to strut,
strut around and show war for a little. No matter
how good we are, we always have like a ten percent.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I did it well, you know, if I ever do it,
if I ever do a workshop with with men, I
give you that space to be able to you know,
fifteen minutes strut all you want, Okay, fifteen minutes is over.
Now let's get let's do the get the and let's
get the work. You know, so I think I think
that's it right, Okay, So thank you once again for
listening to Finding Out with Pete and Poet Gold. We
(30:07):
appreciate you always for listening to the show. Nadia, Sandy,
Uncle Mike, Peter, thank you for allowing and helping. Actually
Poet Gold knows women lead Dutchess come off so well.
Thank you, Amen, thank you, thank you,
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