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Whether it's life, relationships, politics, or current events, nothing is off
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Welcome to the podcast conversation Patty andthe Millennials and Patty Jackson. I'm a
radio event in Philadelphia, a babyboomer. I love conversation, so I've
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gathered up some great voices millennials,gen X, men and women. And
I'll never forget my mom saying,girl, let't be talking about politics.
Don't dun't bring up politics because itcould be touchy and everybody you cannot have
that conversation with. But this sometimesyou gotta delve into it. You gotta
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put your foot in the water totalk about politics. Next year, we
have a very important presidential election anda recent survey came out that it didn't
matter if you're a Democrat, ifyou are a Republican, you are right
dismayed, dissatisfied, disgusted. It'sjust a lot of discs. Uncle veteran
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broadcaster is joining us. How doyou feel about next year's presidential election?
On one hand, you have acruk. On one hand. You have
an old man, and we're wonderingif he's there. Listen, I refuse
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to believe that you the narrative thatyou have to pick one of the poisons
is a thing like I know peoplesay it, but I'm not involved in
that process. I don't care whatpeople say. I don't care to pick
a poison. I'd rather not bepoisoned at all rather than picking the poison.
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So what's gonna happen. It's gonnahappen. So if Trump win or
Biden wins, we're gonna be inwhatever jam comes with that, or if
it's someone else. So we weknow these two fools. We don't know
what other two fools we may pick. Well, there's a fear of Kamala
Harris. The woman that's running well, she's she's no more dangerous than the
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men that's running. Well, youget to look at the men that are
running. I mean maybe for blackmen that she may be the problem.
Nikki Halley has stated, and therewas so much in this comment. If
you vote for Biden, that's avote for Kamala Harris, because there's a
real fear, uncle, oh,that a black woman could be leading this
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country. If something unfortunately, wereto happen to Biden. There is a
fear of this black woman. Ifyou're a racist, then if there's a
fear, or if you're a blackman, that's a fear, no matter
how much she says. You know, people love to ignore people's past,
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but you know, you if you'regonna marry someone, you want to know
what's in their past. Correct,Yeah, so before you marry them,
in that decision, before you marry, you want to make sure they're not
a rapist, correct, yes,So then I want to make sure I
don't vote in a person that threwaway black men and didn't care about it
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until after she was running for vicepresident with Biden, who also threw away
black men. What do you feelin my age? Limits you see him
mench McConnell. You see a DianeFeinstein. You see this dude in New
Jersey who got caught with his handin the cookie jar again and in sixty
nine he's like, I'm not resigning. Do you think the problem is us?
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Okay, the problem is us becausethey don't get to stay in office
unless we continue to vote for them. Correct, So we continue to vote
for the crook or vote for theold guys, or to vote for the
old ladies, then they're going tostay in office. So yeah, I
believe in term limits, but atthe end of the day, we gotta
make sure their limits their term islimited. It does if I see Mitch
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McConnell blank out one more time andthey're just refusing to retire. They are
literally if you look at it asa as a as a sports game,
they're in the fourth quarter of theirlives and they still want to be in
the game instead of having your lateryears as your best years. Would you
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retire if you had that much power? That's the problem. They won't retire
because they love power. And untilwe vote them out, we're the problem
just as well as they are fornot leaving. And we're talking politics.
This is the podcast conversation Patty inthe Nils, and sometimes it can be
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a very uncomfortable conversation, but itis needed. We've got author Kim Reid
here, optimists always. When we'vegot Arlene Felder, Missus Felder, She's
got Glassie Brown Cookies, two twentyfour High Street in Burlington, New Jersey.
Ladies, are you ready yes?Okay? Now, because there's a
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lot of stuff that I'm back here. First off, I believe there should
be term limits because there's too manypeople at a certain age. It's like,
y'all need to go on and retireand enjoy the last years of your
life. No one is happy whetheryou're a Democrat or a Republican. People
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don't like Biden, they think he'stoo old. Then you got Trump here,
crook. What choices do you have? And it just seems like a
sense of entitlement, and it's like, when is a new wave a politician's
gonna come forward. I also thinkit's the Kamala factor, and that is
the fear factor of having this blackwoman in charge our lane. We're gonna
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start with you. I know Iunpacked a lot there. You did unpacked
a lot. And I do thinkthere should be term limits on everything,
not just politics. There should beterm limits with everything, driving, working
should be able, term limits oneverything. As far as Biden being too
old, I agree. As faras Trump being a crook, he's a
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lot of things, and the crookis one of them. Kamala, I'm
not too too thrilled with her either. As far as we need a whole
new generation, a whole new swipeof everybody, like everybody mind swipe,
and it has God put in newpeople, new minds and people so we
can get this thing right because it'sall over the place. Kim, Yeah,
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I mean I agree. I thinkthat people try to hold on to
hold onto role, hold on tothings in life, hold on to relationships,
hold on to everything longer than itsexploration day. And I think that
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it's because of the power and influence, especially in the office of the of
the President. I also think thatwith Biden. If this is hard for
me to say, because you know, I am a full fledged Democrat,
no question about it, but Ido think that it's time for new energy
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in our nation. I think it'sunfortunate because after Obama, who was the
master mentor of Biden, he setshim up for success, which catapulted him
into the office right now. UnfortunatelyVice President Harris Is it doesn't seem from
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the outside that she's getting that mentorship, that she's getting that those moments,
if you will, we didn't know. We knew who Biden was because of
his of his political life, right, we knew that, but Obama really
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put him in places where he couldflourish, where America would see him differently
than just the vice president, andbecause VP Harris unfortunately has not had those
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opportunities, it is going to beextremely challenging for the for America, for
the nation to think of her anythingother than who she is, which we
really don't We really didn't get toknow. So you know, in conclusion
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to all of that, I agreethat everything should have a limit, but
this is going to be an interestinglimit of passing of time to pass the
baton because there's no succession and that'sthe problem for our nation. So we've
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got to get real serious on thistopic. And I'm glad you brought this
up, Patty, because I don'tthink we talk about it enough in its
reality. Because don't get me wrong, you know, I love VP Harris.
She is a member of Alpha Kappa. Alpha's already incorporated, and from
what I knew of her and knowof her through what we see, she
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is a brilliant woman. The likabilityfactor isn't there because people don't know her,
And to be honest to you,it's hard for us to get to
know her because she's not making herselfknown of using the platforms properly, like
the social media platforms properly. Soone of the things I will tell you
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this being especially being a black womanin corporate America, you can only go
as high as your boss will allowyou. See, that's the beauty of
entrepreneurship to you and I, wecould do whatever we want. But when
you are in corporate, you're ina corporate structure and your boss has not
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prepared you to win. Those landmines are real and it is extremely difficult
to be you. Do you asyou, just as you mentioned social media,
make sure you're engaging reaching. Shedoes what she's allowed to do,
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and she has to operate in abox. She is also a black woman,
and we have to remember those elementsto her job into who she is
in that white house, and shestill is dwelling in a world of white
men and women who may not allowher to be because of who she is
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and how brilliant she really is.Politics is often a difficult conversation, but
this podcast it's funny and there's alot of truth bombs. We've got Missus
Roberts. We've got Whitney Roberts.I just want you to know, Whitney
I love saying that, and wealso have we also have Dexter, and
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I just absolutely love his opinion.We're talking about politics, looking ahead,
guys to next year, to twentytwenty four election. Democrats and Republicans are
just disgusted. They don't want tovote. They feel like there's no hope.
On one side, you got Trump, the criminal who only wants to
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be in a white house, youget off of his charges and not go
to jail. On the other hand, you got Joe Biden. People I
think don't like him because he's old, and there's the fear, the fear
of that black woman vice president thatshe would mind one day at the takeover.
So this country is in a littlepickle. I guess you could say,
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Dexi, We're gonna start with you. How do you feel about the
election next year. I'm actually kindof excited for just because I want to
see like what comes out of it, because I feel like before the only
conversation will have this is like,oh, we gotta vote for the lesser
of the two evils. And Ithink that we've gotten to a point now
where it's like everybody's putting everything onthe table, the age, the racism,
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you know, like like you justsaid, Donald wants to be in
because he doesn't want to go tojail. Everything's on the table now,
so it's like up to us nowas voters to make an informed decision and
also say like, look, wedon't want this, we don't need this.
And I feel like at this pointnow somebody else will step in and
we could be like, look,Joe, look Donald nhil this time it's
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somebody else. Whitney, how doyou feel. Oh, I'm exhausted.
I know me too, and I'mso frustrated that it all comes down to
the battle of the old white men, which has been the battle since this
nation has started. I am reallyupset that, you know, there's this
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messaging behind Biden that says, oh, you know that if you're a vote
for Biden, Like what a nikki. That was Nicky Haley who said that.
She said a vote for Biden isa vote for Kamala And we all
know what she was trying to imply, like, don't let that Negress get
on this ballot. And I'm embarrassedat the fact that we have a maybe
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a felon who could be on thisticket. This is what American politics it
has evolved too. I would Iwould be in the boat with decks.
If someone else would come along,I would be in the boat. If
they would throw energy behind Kamala.I know they're not going to do that,
and I know exactly why, butI gotta be honest, I'm exhausted.
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What do you think about term limits? I look at a Diane Feinstein
in San Francisco, she's ninety womanfor tire. I look at Mitch McConnell,
I look at I look at thecrooks Menendez in Jersey. You're sixty
nine, you're stealing and carrying on. Go sit down. What do you
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think about term limits? Now,that's a hard one because, like I'm
one of those people that I donot believe in, like age Shaman at
all of them. Like people shouldbe able to do stuff until they can't
do it anymore. However, ifyou're forgetting things and you're freeze enough and
you're stealing gold bars, it maybecome for you to go not stealing gold
bars. I'm in the same exactboat, des I've never been an ablest,
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so I don't. I don't.I don't want to, like,
I don't want to be agents.I don't want to be ablest. I
want to empower those who are empoweredto do the job. But if you're
unable because of your health to dothe job, then it's okay. It's
okay to admit that, but stepaside and let someone who is capable of
handling the work do the work.Yes, we're talking politics and Brandon is
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joining us. And Brandon, mymom would say, don't talk about politics
because it's just fires people out.But I want to know next years to
presidential election? Right, are youexcited when you look at our choices?
You got ones a crook. One'sold and we're wondering his mental capacity.
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And I think that's why people don'tlike him, because he is old and
we do need at this thing someyoungerness like forties, fifties. How do
you feel about next year's presidential election? You know, just kind of going
back to kind of what you saidand kind of opening up. My father
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used to say the same thing aswell, like don't talk about politics because
it, you know, it juststirs up things and emotions and people and
conversation can go left. And Idid, I mean even a little bit
now like I used to, orI still do in some degree or capacity.
I try to stay probably even moreso now the older I get simply
because of some of the things thatyou mentioned that you stated, I mean,
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you got politics ones of crooks.You know, one's old. And
when you look at the overall landscapeof politics, when you look at DC
and the politicians in the area,it's all the same thing. You know,
you had seventy and eighty year oldsenators and congressmen and congresswomen who you
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know, no knock against the workthat they have done or have not done.
Just mentally, they are not inthe right mental capacity. And it
doesn't at a Democrat or Republican.They're just not in the right mental capacity
to serve or even health wise physicalcapacity to serve in those roles and positions.
But they keep doing it just outof spite, right, because they
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want to go against what you said, and they want to have a say
and not for things. So andI'm scared for politics. I have been.
I'm scared for the election twenty twentyfour, just simply because people are
no longer in politics for the rightreasons any longer. And it's just scary
because you just don't know what you'regoing to get at any given time.
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So politics it just it just freaksme out. And with having kids growing
up of course in this country,it just makes it worse. Brian,
what do you think about term limits? When I see a Mitch McConnell,
Manazia, Diane Fast, I'm like, if y'all don't go somewhere in sit
down, you know what, PattyAnd to me, and I've had this
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conversation as well before, to me, term limits will fix I would say
eighty percent of what we go through. Yeah, you're going to still have
the crooks, you know, you'regoing to still have, you know,
the delusional thought of the way theworld should be and the laws that should
or should not be passed. ButI think term limits helped that, right
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because you do bring in a newergeneration of politicians who may think differently right,
who may feel like they can worktogether, they can make decisions together,
They can actually sit across the tablefrom one another and discuss some of
the issues that are going on inthe world to move things along, and
it not so much be an egothing or a party line thing. So
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I think term limits will fix anextreme amount. But I don't even know
how we would get there, becausethere's just so many voices and so many
people who will vote against the termlimit piece. But I think it fix.
It fixes a lot we've got,Lexi. We're talking politics, we're
looking towards the twenty twenty four elections. Whether you're a Democrat or Republican,
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there's a lot of apathy and theredoesn't seem to be a lot of hope.
On one hand. The criminal onthe other hand, someone older and
I hate to use that term,but I think it's the Commala fear factor
in is he gonna make it thefour years? And Nicky Haley said it
best. A vote for Biden isa vote is a vote for Kamala.
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Now we all know was she talkingabout when she says that. Your thoughts,
Lexi, Well, it makes methink like this is kind of what
our country has come to as itrelates to our elected officials and who's present,
right, And so while you lookat Trump and there's clearly some concerns
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and that approach, then you lookat Biden and the concerns that they have
maybe a little different, but acommunity is concerned nonetheless. So for me,
I think what it boils down tois the capacity, regardless of age,
to be able to lead this countryinto the next stages of more or
better economic development as well as professionaland small business development, and so I
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think that's what we're looking at,and then health care and so for me,
that's what I'm looking at and I'mconsidering. And so with Biden,
he might be a little bit older, and I'm not fearful about Kamala.
What I'm concerned about is as asmall business, particularly running a nonprofit,
how am I going to be ableto continue to serve my community right?
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How am I going to be ableto get access to the resources that will
let me do that? And sothat's what I'm thinking about, like who
is going who has the potential toput me in those who I work with
in the best position to be ableto do that. And right now,
I'll be honest with you, andwhere we're sitting under the Biden Harris administration,
I've been giving a lot more opportunitiesto do that, and I don't
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know that that would be the sameif we voted in a different direction.
Okay, what do you think aboutterm limits? Because there are a lot
of people who are holding off asand holding on for dear life, refusing
to settle in retirement, they refuse. You know what, I'm I feel
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the same way about term limits nowthat I felt when I first started,
like even in the professional space corporateAmerica years ago. I think that there
needs to be a balance between termlimits and again capacity to lead, because
what I would hate to happen isyou have these term limits, but then
you actually end up pushing out someonethat is starting to make a difference.
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There's a there's this book that Iremember reading called the ninety the First ninety
Days, and so it talks abouthow whatever translate shouldn't you make, especially
if it's major, it takes aboutninety days to adjust. So imagine all
the major changes that we make.It takes time. So I think there
should be term limits, but Ithink there also needs to be an evaluation
or an exception rule, if youwill to say, okay, well,
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if we're going to go outside ofthese term limits, then this person needs
to have met all these different standardsand require if we're gonna let them continue
on in this space. I knowthat that may not be ideal, but
I just know that we don't wantthe side like you just said, where
we got people sitting here holding upspots forever, and then we have people
that don't get a chance to fullyprogress along the way, or if you
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are going to have them and youdo have to change, then maybe you
have a succession plan that's set upthat we make sure the next person coming
in is able to continue to moveit back and forth. Because all of
this is back and forth, especiallybetween Democrat and Republican agendas. We need
more bipartisan support on this stuff becauseit is overwhelming for me as a citizen
to try to find where we cancontinue to grow and from a political space
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in this country. And we're talkingpolitics. This is the podcast conversation Patty
and the Millennials. We've got DeckerHeather Richard, she's a sexologists and we're
gonna talk about politics. Next yearis a presidential election, right, yes,
how do you feel about it?Most Americans feel a form of apathy
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discussed no excitement, right because ofthe candidates that we're faced with. But
for a lot of people, they'llpick the lesser of two evils. How
do you feel about next year's election? You know, Patty, I just
love these topics you come up withbecause I you know, being a sex
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therapist working with a lot of couples, politics comes into play, believe it
or not, because some couples havediffering views, might I say, right,
which cause some challenge in relationships whenthey don't agree about politics. Right.
So for me, I have alwaysjust been I'm not really keen on
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politics, like it just is somethingthat has not been a drive for me
to want to know more about.However, because I'm in this world,
you don't you can't help but toknow. It's funny. I was just
talking to my mom about Biden andthe fact that I don't know about you,
Okay, but I like the factthat our president isn't tweeting every day.
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I like this non uh, justchallenging time that Biden has in the
social media world. Yes, he'solder, and I like them, so
I'm just gonna say it. Ilike Biden. I like the drama free
stuff that's going on with our presidentbecause I don't feel like our president should
be a bunch of drama. Yes, he's old. However, I am
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very keen on old folks. Ithink old people are wise, right because
they've been around and they know things. This is pharmacy has helped Kamala right,
She helped him. I like thefact that Biden can run again.
I want him to be the presidentagain. Okay, wait, how do
you feel about term limits. There'ssome people in office, dog they need
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to retire. I'm Mitch McConnell,a Diane Feinstein. I can't take watching
them and it's like you're in you'rein your fourth quarter. Go sit down.
Yes, yes, I agree.So I do agree there should be
time limits, and I do agreethere should be some kind of cognitive functioning
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tests that people have to take inorder to be at certain levels in the
government. Right is there? Idon't know, but there should be,
because when you watch some of thesepeople, they don't seem like they're cognitively
all there. Would you agree,No, they don't. Mitch McConnell,
it's embarrassed. It's embarrassing to seea Diane fine Stein. I think term
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limit should be you've got the dudein New Jersey min then does Then this
is the second time we've been goingaround with this foolishness with him and charges,
and they want to hold on theoffice. They won't resign. I
just think it's a bad, bad, bad situation. Some people are in
office for just too long. SoI do believe there should be term limits.
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Patty. I don't agree with agelimits though, because, like I
said earlier, I love wisdom fromthe older generation of people. I think
they just have a wisdom that isunlike any other. So I welcome that,
especially to run our country. Doeshe how do you feel a lot
of people are not excited about nextyear's presidential election? That's Democrats who are
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Republicans. Some people are in officetoo darn long, and we see it
play down and it's sad every timeNiche McConnell freezes. I'm like, if
you don't go in ra diire,you know what, Auntie. I feel
like people are numb. I feellike people are emotionally numb, they're mentally
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numb. Nobody has really truly recoveredfrom the post pandemic reality that we live
in, and to have gone througha government that allowed all types of foolishness
that celebrates horror, you know whatI mean, and feeds fear people.
We got exactly what we want itwell, they got exactly what they wanted,
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and so now we have a peoplewho are not excited to vote,
who are not excited to change,and those who are excited to change are
outnumbered, right, and so there'sthis, in my opinion, there's this
continual fear factor. Well, peopleare just numb. They don't know what
they want to do. They knowthey want something different, but it's just
like me. You know that.That means it's like n eh, it's
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like whatever, because whatever we say, it's not gonna work anyway. People
are getting tired, and I thinkpeople are getting tired. I was reading
a poll and they said that peopleare not excited about next year's election.
They're not Maybe it will change intwenty twenty eight, but there seems such
a sense of entitlement. Well it'smy turn. No, maybe it's not
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your turn, because we need tofresh energy here, that's right. And
you know another thing, We needsomebody to rise up and be celebrated and
not crucified for right and celebrate itfor wrong. Yeah, I agree with
that. I definitely agree with that. We also need people to fee change
too. I think that's a problem. Like there is change happening, but
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it's so slow because of the lawsthat prohibit an actual president from making a
visible a visible change that people arelike, what is Biden doing? The
topic it's politics. This is thepart cast conversation Patty and the millennials.
We've got Chocolate Divinity, Littori Charleston, We've got Dasia and she's the youngest
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of our millennials. So I reallywant to hear your thoughts on this.
There is a lot of empathy aboutnext year's presidential election. People are not
excited. People are disgusted. They'relike, what kind of bind ore?
In between politicians who are too oldwon't leave office, Between politicians that are
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crooks and want to get back inthe office so they continue crooking. I
know that's not a word, butthere's no there's no excitement. And then
there's the commala factor because there isa fear. There's a fear of a
black woman being president. Hey,ladies, how are you? I threw
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a lot out there, toy.Are you excited about next year's residential election?
No, ma'am, I am notlike it. I mean, there's
just nothing to be excited for rightnow, considering the state of the nation
network and we can't even get certainlaws passed. The government is threatening to
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shut down right now. Poor Joe. I mean, the thing issue I
had with him coming in is Joejust not knowing the things they can do
and can't do. Allah, Gasgate, Allah, the student loan thing going
on, and he really did trywith that, but there maybe this is
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not a monarchy, and I thinkin politics we need which which is why
Donald Trump was so successful because unfortunatelyhe was speaking the language of the people,
but to the dumb people, andthey came out and spoke and you
know, showed up in forces whatpoliticians need to do today, like stop
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doing the status quote the status quopolitics. We are in the information age.
You cannot come to the people talkingthe same jargon and using you know,
language and words that they don't understandbecause today and today's age is going
to basically enrage them or either they'rejust exhausted and they think politics does not
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work for them. So the lefthas to do something as well to where
you know, really speak to thepeople, because from what we can tell,
it's just same old politics, sameold politics. We'll see what Gavin
knew them if they throw him inthere, they're going to have to do
something. Kamala it's not for methat she's a black woman. I just
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don't think she's a good fit tobe the president and I never did.
I never thought her nor Joe werea good fit. But at the time
that's all we had. It wasthem or civil war. I don't want
to live through one of those,especially after Rownams. Okay, how do
you feel? No, I agree, it was one hundred percent. Now,
honestly, politics aren't my things.I'm gonna keep this short. I
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am not looking forward to the electionbecause it's always a disappointment, A big
thing for me, of course,and everybody else is a student loane thing
and it's like, okay, wellwe're looking forward to that for being promised
everything, like all these things,and it never never ever comes to pass.
And that happens all the time witheverybody, everyone who chist in there
and talks a big games, andthen when again the office, it's like,
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what happened, that's not that's nothappening. What about what about term
limits? When you see someone likea Menendez in Jersey just steal, won't
retire, won't step down. MitchMcConnell if he freezes one more damn time,
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girl, do you think this shouldbe termin I think they should be
term limits. Yeah, there absolutelyshould be. I mean again, and
unfortunately they're the reason why I bepeople keep getting in is because there are
not a lot of people to comestepping up during the local elections or the
mid elections. If people really would, we would have less of a turnout
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when it would be less of thesame people over and over again. But
part of it, you've got torealize the system is kind of designed that
way. The people who really runthings when it comes to the industry,
they have their key players positioned inpower and those are the ones who's really
unfortunately running this country. If caseand point, everybody running back into the
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office, no, no, no, it's not everybody, you know,
if we can all work from homeat this point, but the leaders of
industry said, we ain't make anenough y'all ain't going to the corner bakery
like I used to get it backto the office day. Do you feel
about term limits? I feel likeif there needs to be a limit,
And I also feel like after awhile with these people, it becomes that
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power trip becomes a personality becomes aboutego, and people just love the power
to fit they're on. So it'slike that's just who they are, is
that are going to be, andthey need that to fuel their lives.
I definitely feel like for they takeus someone's instal health and not like they
have to be in a power tripat a time. There need to be
a term limit. I definitely believein term limits. I am, like
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most Americans, not excited about nextyear's election. My mom used to say,
don't talk about politics, but politics. It's an uncomfortable conversation that we
must have and to hear it fromall sides. Toya Desia, thank you
so much. This is the podcastconversation Patty and the Millennials, and we
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