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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials, And you
have found us some Patty Jackson. I'm a radio veteran
here in Philadelphia who just loves great conversation. I'm so
glad you're here because today we're talking about social media bullies.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
They up in these streets.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I've got millennials, gen X, gen Z, Geny, all the gens.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm the baby boomer.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I've got re screen he just graduated from Saint Jose University.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
And social media.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Bullying, it seems to be getting worse, and it breaks
my heart want to hear about kids committing suicide because
they're being bullied online.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah, I've actually experienced that, cause, you know, gen Z,
we grew up when Instagram really became popular, Instagram, Snapchat
and TikTok, vine all these other social media apps. But
with that, cyber bullying ramped up. And I've literally experienced
in my own hometown a kid committed suicide due to
cyber bullying, you know. And one thing is that during
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this time, the schools did not know how to control it.
The schools would be like, oh, we cannot control cyber
bullying because that's outside of school, meaning that they could
not guilt on the kid. Now hopefully things have changed.
But again, like I said, cyber bullying is so rampant
because people realize that they can say anything behind the
Internet and nobody will know who they are. They'll be anonymous,
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and it's just really shameful and I just don't know
how to speak on it. But here's the thing. People
have always been mean. There's all always been bullies. The
social media and the internet aspect just allows these people
to hide behind it because they don't want to take
the hands thrown back at them. It's real shameful.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
We're talking about dealing with social media bullies. It is
so prevalent. People get behind you can't see them, or
some are bold enough to go and make videos where
they where they bully you about you, about your business,
and it really seems to be getting out of control.
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Doctor Heather Richards is a sexologist. Let's talk about social
media bullies and why it's so prevalent.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It's crazy, it.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Is, Paddie, It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
But you know what, We've had bullies forever.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Right.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Schools had to put roles in God's lives and laws
in place because kids were being bullied and committing suicide.
So it just concluded on the front of the internet. Right,
So people can even hide more when it comes to
being a social media bulley because nobody can see you, right,
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so you feel like you have all this power over
people and ruining their lives and saying things about them
that are that may not be true. Right, So of
course we're seeing more social media please because people hide
behind that you know, social media profile, and half the
times it's not even a real profile.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
You know.
Speaker 8 (03:36):
I just believe that we need more laws like they
put in place for the school system around social media
billion because it's causing people to go into depression. It's
causing people to be more suicidal, you know, and whenever
something causes somebody to.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Lose their life, Patty like, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
You know, there needs to be some stringent laws around
what social media bullying is. And then platforms like Instagram, Facebook,
all the platforms they need to adhere to this and
hire a team of people who are scouting this stuff
and stop it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Social media bullies? Why is this trend on the rise? Okay,
there's always been bullies, but the social media bullying is
it people just getting pumped up to say they can
do whatever they want. We've got author Kim Reid, We've
got Lexi here. Kim, We're going to start with you.
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Why do you think there's a rise in social media bullying?
Speaker 9 (04:42):
You know, social media bullies.
Speaker 10 (04:44):
I'm going to go back to being reflective and going
back to maybe being a little deep. I think that
social media bullies are really a reflection of gun resolved
pain hurting people people right, and just know that they
have this screen between this right, So I don't don't.
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I just don't give them power. When you know who
you are, no one can use your light against you.
And Patty and ladies always say, don't protect your pains,
Let it propel your purpose. And I will tell you,
the more confident that you become, the less validation you need,
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and the less impact negativity has on your spirit. So
I say, keep showing up with positivity and truth. Darkness
of these social media bullies only wins if that light
stop shining.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
LEXI dealing with social media bullying, it really seems to
be on the rise, and you've really got to be
strong to deal with it.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You do, you do.
Speaker 11 (06:11):
And one of the things that came up, and I
appreciate what you said, Kim, One of the things that
came up is oftentimes what we not often majority of
the time or not always, what we see happening in
society is a reflection also of the leaderships in society.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
And so I don't think there's any coincidence.
Speaker 11 (06:30):
That we have a bully and a very high office
in our country and now we're seeing that also show
up in a platform that has global visibility. And so
I coast on one hundred percent of what Kim said
in terms of how we address it and how we
not subscribe to it, and what we have to do
as a community of non bulliers and advocates and ambassadors
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for mental health is we have to turn the attention
away from it and not give it that attention, just
like him said, including all the bullies that hold very
powerful positions and they use it in order to subdue
and disenfranchise other people. And so I remember Pastor preached
a couple of weeks ago about being salty and talked
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about how we are supposed to be the salt of
the world, and that we are supposed to again let
our lights shine and not put it under or or
hide it. And so in order for us to get
that taste out of our mouths, to spit out that
disgusting lack of flavor, we gotta get salty. We have
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to be the ones that show up and persevere and
also reflect it so that our kids in these next
generation can also see how you should show up in community.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Dealing with social media bullies. Bullying has been around. Ain't
nothing new about a bully, but social media, to me,
has amplified it. I saw an instance of a woman
on social media, she on the toilet talking bad about
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somebody's business.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Now, people, I saw this.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Look god, people, some people are doing way too much
on social media. And then you got the silent keyboard
gangsters that want to say things you don't know what
they look like.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
And now I think there's a thing that you can
find out who's doing it. Have you heard of this?
Speaker 12 (08:44):
It's funny. Yeah, I saw what's the singer and her
husband the judge. They just put out this big expo
say of them finding the people who had been bullying
and harassing them.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Judge Faith and.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
These people were the most horrible looking people. It was like, dang, yep,
social media bullying your thoughts on it.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
I've had my share of it. I'm I'm the kind
of person though that like I like to troll, Like
I don't get on social media to share my highlights
and low lives of my life. I get on social
media to play around like it's a joke to me.
But I've realized that a lot of people don't take
it that way. And years ago, I commented on a
post of a famous rapper and I said something about
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him that wasn't like super kind, and his fans jumped
into my DMS and started to tell me that they
would kill me.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
I was, you know, you just gotten to a point
where it's like this was funny to me, Like I
just said he had a low turnout. I don't think
you need to kill me over there. And then I realized, like.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
These people are not well and you can't play with
people online who you don't know like that. So like
I trovel, I still have a good time with it,
but I know the limits because these people are nuts.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Toy, are your thoughts on social media bullying?
Speaker 12 (10:06):
It has it, It has been.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
A thing for years, and it's disgusting.
Speaker 12 (10:12):
And again, that's kind of to speak to what Dexter says.
It's like you might come in thinking like, oh, I'm
just doing the harmless joke, but to you, But the
key to life is you can't control anybody outside of yourself.
So even though it might have been a harmless joke,
you don't know how it's going to land with that person.
And people are very crazy out here, and you know,
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I've experienced probably a little bit myself with it, like
nothing too crazy. But honestly, if you just serve up
one little, nice little clap back sometimes sometimes it will
send a message to the other people, don't come over
here playing with me or then also to me. One
of the biggest ways to fight it.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
You don't get any response.
Speaker 12 (10:54):
I'm not going to give you what you want, so
but Tom and talk to yourself.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
But Toy time on YouTube, they were calling us black bitches.
Speaker 12 (11:03):
Uh huh, yep, and we.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And we had to gather them up. We had to
gather them up, like y'all got the wrong channel. Y'all
got the wrong channel.
Speaker 12 (11:12):
All you got to do is buy or a couple
of warnings. The other ones get it, and then before
you know it, those comments will.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Start to fade and cease to exist.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
Yes, but the boldness of telling someone they need to
get makeup or something like that, or talking about somebody's
parents on the internet is crazy to me. It is.
Speaker 12 (11:30):
It's wild me. And while you send behind your keys
stink and probably ain't showered in over a week, the
house looks like it.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Let me say, let me see what you can go
back for if I can do this too.
Speaker 12 (11:40):
Yup.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
H We've got Desi Neil joining us on our podcast
Patty and the Millennials, and we're talking about social media bullies. Desi,
I know that bullying has been around forever, but people
are getting an extra boldness on social media in their meanness.
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And we're talking all parts of life.
Speaker 13 (12:06):
M Honestly, let me say this when the I'm not
even gonna say leader, because leaders lead. When the head
of a country is one of the biggest bullies in town,
that does nothing but bully, right, and it's a social norm.
Now people feel so empowered behind a keyboard and you're
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absolutely right.
Speaker 12 (12:28):
I don't know you know what that is, but.
Speaker 14 (12:30):
I feel that people who have never felt like much.
Speaker 13 (12:34):
Just feel a little more empowered now. And this is
the way that they're taking out their hatred. They're hurt, right,
because it's all trauma, basically, really want to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
But the way that so I have a teenager.
Speaker 13 (12:45):
Right well she's in college, but she's still a teen
she'll be nineteen. And the way that I handle it
is I let her know you sometimes you just have
to chew up the meat, spit out the phones, and
you have to take the high road. But she says
to me, Mommy, sometimes the high road gets tiring, and
I just want our society to change.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
It is so hurtful, But you are absolutely right. These
keyboard bullies got to be stopped. Starting with the resident,
we've got Whitney Robert.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
He's joining us. This is the podcast conversation Patty and
the Millennials dealing with social media bullies.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Whitney, I'd be wanting to fight. I don't like when
people come to you because you're a very popular blogger.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But people seem to think because you have a very
strong voice, and I know that we're not always going
to agree on things, but there's no need for the meanness.
And some people are mean on social media for no reason.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Mm hm.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And you know, hurt people hurt people.
Speaker 15 (13:46):
People love to lash out when they don't themselves have
the tools they need to heal. And so I run
into those people, unfortunately a lot. And unfortunately you really
can't even take them seriously because they're acting out on
their hurts and their pains. You're not even talking to
the person at that point, you're talking to their pain.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So you can either do one or two things.
Speaker 15 (14:07):
You could block them, which is the grown up thing
to do, or you can address them at your point
of me.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
It's up to you.
Speaker 12 (14:14):
And I said that the nicest way I could possibly
say it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
What's up with these social media bullies? We've got comedian
magician Derek Lee. Do you think it's on the rise,
Because Derek, there's always been bullies always.
Speaker 16 (14:32):
When people bully people on social media, those are the
ones that's normally getting bullied. People are hiding behind social media.
Speaker 14 (14:40):
Those aren't the real.
Speaker 16 (14:41):
They're sitting there trying to be a tough guy, and
they're not. Everybody's got a podcast, everybody acts tough but
when I see them in the street, they don't act
like that. So no, no, no, don't let the social.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Media for you.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
But do you think that it's getting worse.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I mean some people their behavior on social media and
their meanness and I mean downright meanness towards other people
on social media.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's it's terrible.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
Yes, it's terrible.
Speaker 16 (15:12):
They're hiding behind all of these button phone than the iPad.
People have done that to me.
Speaker 14 (15:18):
I've had people.
Speaker 9 (15:19):
Say stuff, but when I walk up on.
Speaker 16 (15:21):
Them and they see me.
Speaker 14 (15:22):
In person, they don't act like that.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
A lot of that stuff.
Speaker 16 (15:25):
Is just for show to get likes, to get viewers,
to get friends, to just be bigger. But they're everybody's
not that tough. So yeah, this social media has the
game all messed up.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Moche and Wren is joining us the podcast Conversation Patty
and the Millennials. Moshe, we're talking about social media bullying.
Bullying has been around since the beginning of time, but
it's something about people's boldness, the audacity they get behind
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that damn keyboard and they just want to say whatever.
Speaker 14 (16:06):
Baby, let me say it's a different day in time,
because you know, we know about bullies from back in
the day, and it was like, you know what if
I had to confront my bully the next day, I
came to school with my hair tied and the ponytailed
bassoline on my face and cut my nails. I'm ready
to go. That is how we used to deal with
bullies on the playground, and we'd hash it out. It
wasn't now. It's like people, like you said, feel like
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they have the audacity to say what they want to
say behind that keyboard. They are allowed online and quiet
in person. They're like a different species, you know, these
new keyboard bullies and and and if you can liken
them too, like mosquitos at are damn barbecue. They're annoying
and they serve absolutely no purpose.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
I don't argue with them.
Speaker 14 (16:53):
I don't. I don't argue with people online.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
I hit mute and keep it cute.
Speaker 14 (16:57):
You know, I've hit mute and keep it I block them,
and I keep it pushing because you can't fight peace
with petty. And I'm not going to sit here and
go back and forth with a bully online. I'm too
grown to get out free energy. My energy cost and
I'm not going to get it to a bully online
because what I know about Karma is she's undefeated, you know,
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so you can bully people online, but trust me and
believe it's coming back to you tenfold, So I don't.
I'm not into the social media bully stuff. I'm gonna
you know, put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Not that I'm promoting violence.
Speaker 14 (17:32):
I'm just saying you said it then or here on
this space and this platform, say.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
It to my face.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Social media bullies. Bullies have been around forever, but what
is it? And we've got vetter and broadcaster Uncle I
can't wait to hear what he says. But what is
it about social media that people just think that they
can say anything they want and get a.
Speaker 17 (18:01):
I think the problem is maybe by popular or unpopular opinion,
but I think the problem is that aren't enough bullies
what I think, yes, because you know, the bully kept
the balance in life. You know everybody, you know the
things people are saying on social media they wouldn't say
if their bully would check them. You know how people
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say something and you'd be like, why are you saying that?
You wouldn't say that in real life?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You know why?
Speaker 17 (18:28):
Because they've gotten rid of the bully, and the bully
don't check them. You know, the bully would get on
it and be like, you know what, you was a
punkin school or you were a punk on your block.
You're not what you say you are. You wouldn't do
that if you were on the street. And because of that,
the bully not being around, people say what they wouldn't
say normally.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I saw a woman on social media. This damn girl
was sitting on the toilet tearing down someone's food business,
and I was like, is this dumb ass on the
toilet right doing this?
Speaker 17 (19:05):
But guess what, she wouldn't do that if her bully
would check her ass. She probably has Oh I'm sorry,
I don't know if I'm supposed to say that, but
she wouldn't do it if the bully would check her.
Because her bully hasn't. She hasn't been checked because the
bully's been kicked out.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Of school, the bully's.
Speaker 17 (19:23):
Been checked, we don't have any balance. The bully kept
the balance. That's why everyone on social media says everything
they think because the bullies aren't checking them.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So you think that if more people got checked.
Speaker 17 (19:42):
I think if more people had people that know them
in real life would check them. And a lot of
the stuff people think they want to say on social
media they wouldn't say to begin with. Now not everybody
gonna agree with and I don't care saying what people.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Are afraid to say.
Speaker 17 (20:02):
If the bully was around, the bully would check that person.
Because there's a lot of the people that are really
punks in life and wouldn't say anything, but now they
got a voice on social media because nobody's putting a
check to it.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I've really enjoyed this conversation social media bullies. This is
the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials. I'm Patty Jackson.
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