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December 1, 2023 29 mins
The deadline is fast approaching to sign up for Medicare. Whether you qualify as a person 65 or older or you want to support a senior in signing up - I have an interview that will tell you what you need to know plus information about Medicare Advantage. I speak to Theresa Lauer, Vice President of Medicare Marketing & Sales for Independence Blue Cross.
https://www.ibx.com/medicare

Desperate for gift ideas during this holiday season? My go to is wine or spirits and we'll be getting tips from Liz Tarditi, Wine Specialist for Fine Wine & Good Spirits. https://www.finewineandgoodspirits.com/

I have nothing but love for journalists who are members of the Philadelphia Association of Black Journalists as well as the newly formed National Association of Black Journalists Philadephia. PABJ has split from the national organization. As a result, a group has formed the separate Philadelphia affiliate of the NABJ. A few weeks ago, I spoke with members of the NABJ Philly about why they decided to form the affiliate. Today I speak to Ernest Owens, President of PABJ about why they broke with NABJ.
https://www.thepabj.org/

First, Stress, depression and grief is on the increase during the holiday season, especially among people in African Diaspora communities. That’s why the 988 African Diaspora Campaign, in partnership with State Sen. Sharif Street, is sponsoring a “Conversation with the Black Community: Breaking the Stigma & Healing the Trauma,” Saturday, Dec. 9 from 10:00AM to 1:00PM at the Temple Liacouras Center, 1776 N. Broad Street, Philadelphia. I speak to Senator Street and Marily Kai Jewett speaking on behalf of the 988 African Diaspora Campaign.
988 Diaspora Campaign for Mental Health (funtimesmagazine.com)
www.senatorsharifstreet.com 215-227-6161
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Good morning. You're listening to Insight, a show about empowering our community.
I'm Lorraine Ballad Morrel. The deadlineis approaching to sign up for Medicare,
whether you're sixty five or older,or you want to support a senior in
signing up. I have an interviewthat will tell you what you need to
know, plus information about Medicare advantage. Desperate for gift ideas during this holiday

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season, my go to as wineor spirits. We'll be getting tips from
a wine in spirits specialist. Afew weeks ago, we aired an interview
with a newly formed affiliate of theNational Association of Black Journalists. This week
we bring you an interview with thePhiladelphia Association of Black Journalists. First an
important event designed to provide mental healthresources for the community. Mental wellness is

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absolutely critical and it's a challenge inBlack communities. There is the nine to
eight to eight Diaspora campaign that seeksto bring mental wellness resources to our community
and sponsoring a conversation with the Blackcommunity breaking the Stigma and Healing the trauma.
On Saturday, December ninth, wehave Senator Sharif Street who is the

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sponsor of it. We also haveMaryland Kai Jewett, who is with the
nine to eight to eight Diaspora Campaign. Senator Street tell us some details about
the event that's coming up. We'rehaving an event that seeks to sort of
help folks in the black community movepast the African diaspora, move past the
stigma of talking about mental health.There's going to be a panel discussion,

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it's going to address some of theissues around stigma, but also the need
for people to move past trauma.And then there's going to be a healing
circle and in the healing circle thatthere's a time for people to share.
The healing circles both have are bothinformational and therapeutic. We're trying to raise
awareness, trying to provide some levelservice, and really just trying to get

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people to move past the stigma andget the health they need. Fantastic Now,
Maryland, I know that you're verymuch involved with the nine to eight
eight d asper Campaign, which providesresources. Can you tell us more about
about where people can get resources aboutblack and brown therapists and other resources as
well. In the beginning, Iwas doing some research and found that all
of the mental healthcare agencies, thefederal the government agencies and the nonprofit agencies

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were saying that black people need blacktherapists because our trauma comes from a different
place than other people. So Isaid, okay, well, when people
call the nine eight eight number insteadof calling nine one one when you have
a mental health issue, you're goingto get therapists. But you don't know
who those therapists are. So Isaid, well, maybe we need to

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develop a list of an independent blacktherapist where people can access them. We
want you to call the nine eighteight number when there's an issue in an
emergency, but then we develop alisting of black therapists that you can access
for long term care. So thisevent is bringing some of those black therapists

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directly to the community so that theycan talk to them and see they're just
like us. Those are our brothersand sisters, our neighbors. There are
people that we see every day whohave dedicated their lives to helping the diaspora
to heal because we've got to movepast this trauma in order to be able
to take our rightful place in theworld. I know there's a website that
has a list of all of thoseresources. What is that website? They

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can go to the funtimes website.That's funtimesmagazine dot com. It's all one
word sometimes magazine dot com. Therewill be a link there where you can
get the list, and we willalso have the list available for people to
come when they come to the event. People want more information about this event
which is happening Saturday, December ninth, from ten am to one pm at

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the Leah Korus Center, seventeen seventysix North Broad Street. How do they
find out more? Look, youcan always call my office at two and
five two two seven sixty one sixtyone, and you can go to www
dot Senator Shari Street dot com andwe'll have information for you. We look
forward to seeing you. Thank youlearned for being the voice of the people
and helping to get this information outthere. We need to get well so

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we can do well for ourselves andwell for others. Well. Back at
you for all the positive things you'redoing for the community. State Senator Sharif
Street, in partnership with the nineeight eight Diaspora Campaign, presents a conversation
with the black community, breaking thestigma and healing the trauma. Also thanks
to Marilyn Kai Jewett, with thenine eight eight Diaspera campaign. Thank you

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both. We want to thank youfor supporting the campaign the entire time since
the summertime. Thank you so muchfor everything you're doing to help um.
We're in the final stretch of theMedicare annual enrollment period, which ends on
December seventh. At this time,Medicare beneficiaries can take a look at their

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coverage and decide whether they want tostay with the same plan for the coming
year or make a switch. Planchanges will go into effect on January first.
To give us an update on everythingwe need to know about Medicare and
Medicare advantage, we have Teresa,vice president of Medicare Marketing and Sales for
Independence Blue Cross. Well, thankyou so much for joining us here today.

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Thank you, Loraine, nice tomeet you. Well. This is
a good conversation to have not onlyfor our seniors, but those who support
our seniors, because sometimes we needsome of the younger folks to support the
older folks. So let's talk aboutthe basics. What age are folks eligible
to enroll in Medicare. Most folksbecome eligible for Medicare when they're turning sixty

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five, so you wouldn't start toenroll in Medicare three months before your sixty
fifth birthday, the month of yoursixty fifth birthday or three months after.
That's the initial election period. Butthere are other opportunities where somebody could become
eligible for Medicaid that it could beunder sixty five. For example, if
you are on disability and you becomeMedicare eligible. That is one way.

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All right, What are the differentparts of Medicare and what do they cover?
So Medicare I like to consider hasfour parts. You have your Part
A Benefits, which is all ofyour hospital benefits. You have your Part
B, which you consider to beall your doctor services and tests, and
so on and so forth. Insome drugs, Medicare Parts C is what
we call Medicare Advantage, and thoseare plans that are sold through private insurers

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like Independence, Blue Cross and Medicare. Part D is your pharmacy Part d
RX prescription drugs. All right,we're going to get to Medicare advantage in
just a minute. The annual enrollmentperiod, as we mentioned, ends on
the seventh of December, and soif you miss it, what happens if
you miss it? There are otheropportunities for you to make a change.

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That typically happens between January first andMarch thirty first of the following year.
So in our case, for rightnow, if you happen to miss signing
up or re electing another Medicare advantageplan, you can make one time election
between January first of twenty twenty fourand March thirty first of twenty twenty four,
and now it will become effective thefollowing month that you've made your coverage

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decision. All right now, originalMedicare Parts A and B may not cover
all of your healthcare needs, anda lot of folks choose to enroll an
additional coverage such as Medicare advantage plansor supplemental insurance to fill the gaps.
Now, I can tell you frompersonal experience how important having really good insurance,

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what difference it makes. I wentfrom an insurance policy that was kind
of minimal to actually independence boo cross. So I go to the doctor more
often because I see that I havea zero copay or very inexpensive go copay.
So for me, as I'm gettingmore senior, I am very interested

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in staying healthy. So that's whereI think Medicare advantage comes in because it
does offer additional advantages in terms ofwhat it's covering that might make again coverage
more incentivized for folks like me.So let's talk about Medicare advantage. You
do offer a program, tell uswhat it covers and what people need to

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know about it. Yeah, Sotoday, right now we cover a little
over one hundred and eight thousand MedicareAdvantage lives in our south eastern Pennsylvania marketplace.
And so we've been deeply rooted insideof Philadelphia for over eighty five years
ensuring our communities and making sure thatwe have access to the largest networks available,
same for pharmacy, and being ableto work with community partners and helping

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to make our communities have a differenceand a meaningful difference. We do this
by trying to address whole person health. So, going back to what you
were saying about how Medicare advantaged cangive you more or how health coverage can
give you more than just what MedicarePart AM Part B can give. Our
Medicare Advantage plans can cover things suchas routine dental vision and hearing coverage.

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You can also get an over accountallowance that you can use out of pharmacy.
It's a separate debit card like style. You can go directly into that
pharmacy, pick your items off theshelf that are approved, swipe the car
and walk out with your over thecounter and being able to offset those costs
that you would traditionally have to takeout of your own piggy bank. We

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also offer additional things like gym membership, which includes all of the YMCAs in
the Southeastern area, so you canlive active and be independent and age gracefully
in place. Those are some ofthe reasons why Medicare Advantage plans go above
and beyond your traditional Medicare Part Ain Part D, as well as giving
you other opportunities to wrap everything togetherinto a one card solution that includes your

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medical all your additional ancillary benefits,and your Part D prescription drugs for one
low cost or no cost at all. Talk about the cost of Medicare advantage.
What are the things that people needto know about that? So we
have a range of premiums and avariety of different products. We have products
that go from zero premium up tomid tier and higher priced products that are

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available. We also carry HMOs andwe carry PPOs. So right now we
have a very luscious PPO product linethat offers you things such as all the
ancillary benefits mentioned before. We haveplans that can give back to your Social
Security chapter, your part by giveback. We also have HMO plans that

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are sturdy in our Keystone product line, that have been around for quite some
time and who have obviously a lotof advantages when it comes to network and
the breath of the network, andall of these have no deductibles and no
referrals. Well, let's talk aboutthat again. I can't even tell you,
I can't even begin to tell youwhat a difference it makes to not
have to worry about a massive billor a huge copay or a huge deductible.

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And that is for me such animportant factor as I age gracefully and
want to make sure that I haveall of my checkups done, that I
go to the dentist, that Igo to the eye doctor, because all
of those things contribute to healthy aging, isn't that right? They are,
And we also want to focus onaccess to because it's critically important. You
have to make sure that when you'remaking a decision, your doctors, your

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hospitals, your pharmacies and how fastyou can get into those services or those
providers is important. You can't bewaiting around months or weeks and so to
be able to get in. Sowe offer a variety of different network types,
right, so you can go tothe traditional brick and mortar doctor,
or we have online resources through telemedicinewhich allow you to get medical, behavioral

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health and dermatology visits through our vendorservice. So there's a variety of different
ways for you to be able toget care. Everything is cost monitored,
so it's predictable. If you remainin network, you're going to know exactly
what your costs are going to be. And if you decide on our PPO
product line to go out of network, well you can leverage our Blue Cross
and Blue Shield Association network across thecountry to be able to access care while

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you're away from home. It's reallyimportant to keep all these things in mind
and also ensure that you have atrusted partner when it matters most same thing
with our registered Health Coast. Youcan call any of these different variety of
resources to be able to get somebodyto speak to and help you navigate through
situations that you might not feel thatyou're able to do on your own.

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If people want to find out moreabout which plan works best for them,
how do they find out more?Yeah, it's simple. You can go
to ivxmedicare dot com to learn more. On that webpage, it'll be a
phone number. You can connect withus over the phone. You can have
somebody come out to your home ifyou would like to have a kitchen table
conversation, or you can viewer optionsall online at home on your own device.

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So there's a variety different ways foryou to get in contact with us
and for us to be able tokeep the conversation going with you. Fantastic.
Any final words before we're clothes,just it's really important right now to
make the right decision based off ofhow your health and financial needs have changed.
You're not in this alone. Ifa member or a Medicare beneficiary has
any questions, we are here tohelp you because we are that community resource

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and that neighborhood sponsor that wants tobe that person that's able to support you
through these times. So at anypoint in time, if you have any
questions at all, anybody can reachout. We're here to help. Don
We's allow our vice president of MedicareMarketing and Sales for Independence Blue Cross.
Thank you so much. Thank you, Loraine. It's the holiday season,

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the giving season, and a triedand true present for friends, family,
and colleagues. Wine and spirits.They're timeless and sophisticated, making them versatile
gifts for even the hard to please. Ultimately, the act of giving wine
and spirit reflect a gesture of appreciation, adding an extra layer of warmth and
connection to the gift giving experience.To give us some advice on gifting ideas,

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we are joined by Fine Wine andGood Spirits wine specialists Liz Tarditi.
Liz, thank you so much forjoining us here today. This is always
one of my favorite things to doevery year, is to talk to you
all. Thank you so much,Lorraine. It's great to be here.
So we are speaking to you fromone of the locations. Where are we
speaking to you from? I amin the Phoenix Film Store. I'm right

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here on the floor of the store. Yeah. So if you hear any
tingling in the background, that isthe reason why. Well, Liz,
let's talk about some of the ideasfor gift giving. There is traditional you
can always give a bottle of wine, or a bottle of spirits. But
you have some special packages that peoplecan take advantage of. Tell us more.
We do this time of year.We have some great holiday gifts that

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everyone should know about and love.We have box sets of different spirits that
have mugs in them, or glassesor special shakers. We have candy canes
filled with fireball and cocktail kits.Our holiday products this time of year just
offer a great array of different things, even things for eagles lovers. Oh

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really, tell us more. BothAbsolute and Jamison have go birds and they
have an eagles glass and with theirproduct, and it comes free. It's
the same price as the bottle forany fan. This is something not to
miss. Oh wow, that soundspretty great. You know. Another cool

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thing, and I've done this inthe past, is there's so many celebrity
endorsed wines and spirits, so youcould actually give a Francis Ford Coppola wine
or someone from the Grateful Dead.I think they have a wine or spirit
they do. Yeah, tell ustell us about Jan bon Jovi has Hampton
Water, which is a wonderful rosefrom the south of France, from the

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Pravad's area. It's crisp and delightfuland citrusy delicious. This is where someone
like you comes in because I personallydo not know very much about wine and
spirits, so I really do relyon an expert to tell me what direction
to go in. So tell us. So someone walks into one of your
fine Wine in Good Spirit stores,what should they look at for when they

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speak to someone like you? Firstof all, people like me. The
wine specialists are in all of yourpremium stores and we love helping you,
so we can help you make thatspecial selection. But if we are not
there, go to the Chairman's Selectionbecause that is a curted collection by our
wine experts. It is one ofthe best programs, the Chairman's Selection.

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It's unique to Pennsylvania. What itis is we buy were phenomenal wines at
great prices and so you automatically geta savings. But they're also very highly
rated and you can see the ratingsright there. Every single Chairman's Selection in
the collection has a great sign infront of it. It will tell you

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whether it's dry or sweet. Itwill tell you if it's oky or unoaked.
It will give you a great feelfor the flavor profile. When you're
gifting to friends or when you're pairingyour holiday meals, the chairman's selection,
all the work is done for you. It's a sure thing, right,
And plus you have a lot ofitems that would make great stocking stuffers.

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We do. So we have alot of small things like minis and we
have a fireball candy cane that hasa bunch of minis in it. We
have small packs and cocktail sets,cocktail making sets, anything you can imagine
that you could give as gifts perfectfor here and for those who are a

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little crafty and I'm one of thosepeople, you'd actually have an aspect on
your website that can help people withideas and how to create crafts utilizing your
products. We do. We haveFineline Good Spirits that's fwgs dot com and
you can go there for craft cocktailrecipes. We also this year have a

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minis wreath. There's a YouTube tutorial. We're on YouTube. We're on all
of your social media and you canfind different craft cocktail recipes, different crafts
to do for the holidays to justmake it more happier. Right. And
if you're like me, I dotraditional koquito every year and I'm always making

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my trip to Fine one and goodSpirits and filling up my shopping cart with
some excellent rum to include in therecipes. So there's a lot of gifts
like that that you can prepare onyour own, being a little bit creative
that give it a personal touch.Absolutely, and this is the time of
year where you might want to splurgea little bit on what you buy,

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especially when you're gifting. And wedefinitely have those premium products that everyone's looking
for, tequilas, bourbons, rum, definitely. And for those out there
who would actually rather shop from home, there is that option as well.
There is it's a wonderful program whereif you buy more than ninety nine dollars

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on our website, it will shipfor free right to your home. Otherwise
you can ship it to the storeand just come in with your ID and
pick it up. It's that simple. And there's much more on our Fine
Wine and Goodspirits dot com than couldever be in a single brick and mortar
store. So if you really wantto see the full array of products for

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Fine Wine and Good Spirits, definitelyvisit our website. Any final words before
we close, I would just sayeveryone please drink responsibly. We want to
see you in the new year.Stay happy and safe and thank you and
cheers. Great way to end ourinterview. And again, what better way
to gift for those very hard togift people than fine Wine and good Spirits

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And this is the place to go. What's that website? One more time
fwgs dot com. Thank you somuch for joining us here today, Fine
Wine and Good Spirits Wine Specialists,Liz Tarditi, thanks for joining us today.
Thank you for having me. Ihave a great love for the journalists
who are members of both the PhiladelphiaAssociation of Black Chairsjournalists as well as the

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newly formed National Association of Black JournalistsPhiladelphia PABJ recently split from the national organization,
and a group of journalists have formeda Philly branch of the NABJ in
response. A few weeks ago,I spoke with members of the NABJ Philly
affiliate. Today we speak with PABJ. Joining me right now is Ernest Owens,

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who's president of the Philadelphia Association ofBlack Journalists. Thank you so much
for joining us today, Ernest,thank you so much for having me on.
This is exciting. I feel asthough I'm a little bit of Switzerland
here because I did do a recentinterview with the newly acquired NABJ Philly affiliate,
and that's different from PABJ, Sotell us what it distinguishes the two.

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The difference is that the Philadelphia Associationof Black Journalists was found in nineteen
seventy four, returning fifty years old. We are our own nonprofit, we're
independent, we have our own fiveoh one C three, and we are
servicing black journalists in the greater Philadelphiaregion without any influence or regulations by any
other national organizations. NABJ Philly they'remore of a group. I wouldn't necessarily

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call them an organization. They don'thave a five to one C three,
they don't have a headquarters like wedo, and they are pretty much beholden
to the National Association Black Journalists,hence the NABJ portion to the Philly So
the national organization will be regulating andoperating a lot of their work. They're
getting a support of some local blackjournalists, but everything will be coming up

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top from the national when it comesto how they move in this city,
in this region. You know,we are a grassroots organization. We're home
grown, We're Philly grown. Ourvoices Our perspectives are more local. We're
in the community, we're already inthe community, and we're building partnerships that
does not have to be dictated bya national organization with its own five ZHO

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one C three that is determining whatwe do in the Commonwealth. And what's
the problem with having NABJ having aninfluence on policy, Well, it's not
so much that they're having an influence. It's a dictatorship. You know.
One of the biggest reasons why PABJNABJ had a split is because PABJ was
coerced out of NABJ. There wasa demand of information from our organization that

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I believe would have played a rolein keeping us in a financial situation that
was not beneficial. When I becamethe president, when I got on the
board as the vice president and myselfand Manny was the president at that time
in twenty eighteen, our organization wasbroke, like we had really no money.
We did not have a headquarters,We didn't even have a po box

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anymore. Our website domain was onthe brinks of being basically done. We
had nothing going and we had toring this organization up. We had the
fundraise we had to apply for grants, and we're in a very good financial,
healthy state. Our membership is back. We were getting ourselves out of

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a bad place that really could haveended us if we came into that in
the pandemic during that time, whatwe found out was that all of this
money that we were raising, orwe thought we were getting a lot of
local funders, supporters, people acrossPhiladelphia that was giving money big funders that
used to give money to PAVJ,they were telling us that they were giving
the money to NDJ, and theythought that giving them money to NABJ meant

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that the money was going to trickledown to PABJ. It never did,
because NABJ has its own five Oone C three and we had our own
five O one C three. Andso the moment that our PABJ leadership started
to independently fundraise for money and beganto inform those in the city that was
giving me to NDJ that that moneywas not hitting PABJ, that's when we

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started to see some problems with thenational organization and how they wanted to dictate
how far we flew and how farwe were striving. And it came down
to a situation where they wanted tohave the entire email list of our members
and that included our donors, ourbenefactors, all these different groups that supported

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us, and we felt like doingso would compromise our finances, Like you
never asked for the donor list orthe membership roster of a group of people,
that of an entire organization. Evenif some people may be members of
NABJ, some people may not.And so because we had that dispute,
they basically threatened that we would notbe affiliated with them, and as a

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result of us refusing to give thatinformation, they basically let us know that
our status with them was not incompliance, and that put us in a
position where we realized we were thatimpasse and we became independent at that point.
Rather than getting into the weeds ofall the ins and outs of the
political part, I would like tofocus on what your mission is now and

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what your events are, and whatyou hope to do in the future going
forward. Well, the work thatwe continue to do. You know,
our organization is about advocacy and accessat the end of the day, advocating
for black journalists and regardless of whatevernewsroom they work in or if they don't
work in a newsroom. Our organizationis real with the Times. The majority
of our members are journalists, tobe clear, but they're not necessarily journalists

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that work in a traditional newsroom.I, for one, am a journalism
I'm a media entrepreneur. I havemy own company. I work with media
companies, but I don't work forthem. I do contractual work, I
do freelance work. I do variousways to make a living and have a
very profitable light. There are someof our journalists out here, especially for
black journalists, that have a revolvingdoor. We see them start in a

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newsroom, but then sometimes they haveto for financial reasons, go into pr
and communications, and then some ofthem eventually get back to journalism. Our
organization is really focused on black journals, lists and black media professionals and advocating
for them, making sure that theyare getting proper compensation for their work and
making sure that they're in a healthyenvironment, but also access, giving them

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career development trainings, giving them greatwork. You know, one of the
things that we love that we doevery year is our Media Access event that's
coming up in December, and we'reso excited that you're going to be a
part of that. One of thepanels that we're doing at Philadelphia Comming Access
Media. That event is free.One of the things we're also doing is
increasing access that in our fiftieth anniversaryyear, our memberships are free to all

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eligible media professionals and journalists in theregion. We're not charging dues for our
members. We're increasing our funding forprofessional career development events like Media Access other
events we have throughout the year.But we also understand the importance of joy.
So even though it's you know,we are a professional organization that does
take pride in having career development eventsand sending people to conventions and conferences,

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we also are big on llow shipand joy. So we do have an
annual pool party, a holiday eventbecause a lot of black journalists out here
it's getting tough, you know,the issues that we have to cover,
we have to have a space toalso celebrate our victories as well. So
we're really invested in a healthy balance. So if people would like more information

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about PABJ and about your upcoming events, how do they find out more?
Absolutely, we're at THEPABJ dot organd we're at Philly ABJ on Instagram and
PABJ on Twitter. We're all oversocial media platforms. We have a robust
board and committee that would love forpeople to join our committees and stay involved.
We make a lot of our eventsfree and accessible to our members,

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and there's a lot of community eventslike our Menia Access event that's coming up
in December that is accessible to thecommunity as well. And any final words
before we close, I want tomake it known to people that what I
see right now happening in our mediaspace and what's happening in this situation,
is that I see it as agenerational difference, you know. I don't
consider it beef, you know.So these are people that are folks that

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I've looked up to over the years, and while we may have a difference
of opinion on this issue, onething that I want people to know is
that we're seeing a generational shift inour industry, and I want more people
to think about what side of historythey want to be on. I think
it's important for us to recognize thateverything must evolve and it doesn't have to

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be contentious. What I want peopleto know is that while there are two
different organizations, we serve two differentpurposes because of our fixation on how we
plan to liberate and how we planto represent Philly in the greater region,
and people are encouraged to make informeddecisions about how they feel about it.
But one thing we should never forgetis that as black journalists, we have

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a bigger mission, and that isto advocate and provide access to all.
Ernest Owen's president of the Philadelphia Associationof Black Journalists, Thank you so much.
Thank you. You can listen toall of today's interviews by going to
our station website and typing in keywordCommunity. You can also listen on the
iHeartRadio app Keyword Lorraine with one R. Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at

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