April 11, 2025 • 29 mins
This week, we bring you two powerful conversations about justice, community, and hope. First, we speak with Reverend Gregory Holston, founder of Just Nation, an organization dedicated to fighting racism at every level of government. Reverend Holston shares details about the upcoming Coalition to Defend Democracy Mass Rally, happening Tuesday, April 22, from 6–8 PM at 10th Memorial Baptist Church (1328 N. 19th Street, Philadelphia).
📘 Follow Rev. Holston: facebook.com/reverendgregory.holston
🌐 Learn more: pennpolicy.org
Then, we shine a light on the life-saving work of the Gift of Life Donor Program, now celebrating its 50th anniversary. We’re joined by Richard Hasz, President & CEO of Gift of Life, and Justin Trotman, a Philly native, husband, father, and kidney transplant waitlist patient. As one of the nation’s oldest and largest organ procurement organizations, Gift of Life continues to lead in organ and tissue donation. Their 28th Annual Donor Dash unites thousands to honor donor heroes, support recipients, and raise awareness for those still waiting. More than 100,000 people are currently on the national transplant waitlist—including nearly 5,000 in our region. It takes just a minute to become a registered donor and potentially save a life.
🌐 Learn more and register: Donors1.org
📲 Socials: @donors1 on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook
📘 Follow Rev. Holston: facebook.com/reverendgregory.holston
🌐 Learn more: pennpolicy.org
Then, we shine a light on the life-saving work of the Gift of Life Donor Program, now celebrating its 50th anniversary. We’re joined by Richard Hasz, President & CEO of Gift of Life, and Justin Trotman, a Philly native, husband, father, and kidney transplant waitlist patient. As one of the nation’s oldest and largest organ procurement organizations, Gift of Life continues to lead in organ and tissue donation. Their 28th Annual Donor Dash unites thousands to honor donor heroes, support recipients, and raise awareness for those still waiting. More than 100,000 people are currently on the national transplant waitlist—including nearly 5,000 in our region. It takes just a minute to become a registered donor and potentially save a life.
🌐 Learn more and register: Donors1.org
📲 Socials: @donors1 on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Welcome to Winsight, a show about empowering our community.
I'm Lorraine Balladmorrow, We're going to shine a light on
the life saving work of the Gift of Life Program,
celebrating its fiftieth anniversary and the upcoming donor dash. With
more than half the people on the transplant wait list
from communities of color, this message is more important than
(00:21):
ever first in these very challenging times, a lot of
folks are kind of wondering, well, what do I do?
How is the Trump administration impacting on me? And is
there anything that I can say? Is my voice going
to be heard? Well, there are some folks who say
it's time to stand up. It's the Coalition to Defend
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Democracy having a mass rally to tell us more about it.
The Reverend Gregory Holston, founder of Just Nation, which is
an organization dedicated to fighting racism at every level of government.
There's a rally coming up on the twenty second of April.
Pastor Holston, thank you so much for joining us here today,
So tell us what this mass rally is all about.
(01:05):
What is the purpose of it?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Thank you for the opportunity to come and speak. I
would just say I know many times people say this,
This Trump administration and the policies that are being created
right now are the greatest threat to our democracy in
my lifetime. And if we're not organized across the board,
particularly with this Raley directly looking to the black community,
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I'm afraid that our way of life that has been
created over the last hundred, one hundred and fifty years,
of the various programs that are part of the fabric
of what makes our nation what it is, Social Security, Medicaid,
snap benefits, all of these organizations, all of these programs
may be undermined and may be destroyed if we're not
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organized right now to come together and fight for a
country that's not uniformed, a country that is diverse, a
country that doesn't believe in inequity but believes in equality,
a country doesn't believe in exclusion but believes in inclusion.
If that's what we believe, is time to stand up
and fight.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
There are so many people that are reacting to this
second Trump presidency very differently than the first time around.
There were some mass rallies, There was the Women's March,
There are all the marches to end racism, and the
activism around police brutality, But this time around, there seems
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to be almost a stunned silence. People are so overwhelmed
by the quantity of things that President Trump is proposing
that it almost seems as though they're paralyzed. And I
wonder if you can maybe speak to that, and what
are your thoughts around that.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
That's a difficult question. I think there's a wearing down
as is going on with the language and the type
of things they're doing on executive orders and the election.
It just happened as well, the disappointment of that election,
with all of what was said. It's not like he
didn't telegraph what he was going to do. Those of
us recall Project twenty twenty five, where he basically laid
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out that he would do all of these things and
take us back in this way. So if some of
us are weary from all of these fights, from the
accumulation of these fights, and probably needed almost a respite
for a moment. But I believe right now the country
is starting to galvanize, starting to organize. I see it
across the country and city after city after city, march
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is beginning to happen, rallys beginning to happen, Things being
getting to happen at going, whether it's Target for its
DEI policies or Tesla for what its owner and founder
continues to do. I think we're building and moving in
the right direction. And part of our fight if this rally,
is to organize more of the black community around all
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of this so that we can have this diverse coalition
to push back against Trump.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
What are you hoping to accomplish in this rally? We've
seen rallies that have pushed things forward, pushed the movement forward.
What is your hope for this rally?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Three specific things. First, to continue to educate because so
much is happening. People need to get the width in
the breath of what every institution, every program that's being affected.
It's not one issue, it's a philosophy that's affecting hundreds
of programs and hundreds of departments across our federal government.
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And so getting people to understand the scope of it
and not be afraid of that scope, but know that
we can attack it and be victorious over how great
that scope may be. So part of this is education.
Part of it is also some rapid response. In April
and May, the budgets are going to be dealt with
at the federal government level. The eight hundred and eighty
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billion dollar cut in Medicaid is going to be voted on.
There's a small margin in the House right now. Three
Republicans change and don't vote for these cuts. We can
defeat those cuts. And so part of the rally is
going to be doing the direct calling, the direct action
to make sure that our voices are heard in those
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channels in those halls of Congress, and then finally organized
in advance for the things that are to come to
really put an organization in pace. While my organization is
not as nonpartisan, there are other organizations that are going
to be doing the electoral work going forward and getting
a sense of what we need to do going forward.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I'd like to go back to what you said about
the cuts in Medicaid. Eight hundred billion dollars in medicaid cuts,
and I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding among many people
about what medicaid actually is and what it covers. And
I think they don't realize that it really helps children,
It helps our elders, tell us what we'll be losing.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yes, helps those who cannot afford health insurance themselves. Those
individuals who who do not have jobs that pay for
their health insurance. Medicaid is a place that they can go.
For children and for seniors. So any senior home you see,
any senior developed you may see, is either going to
be funded and built by Medicaid dollars or the people
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in there are giving Medicaid dollars to pay to be
able to live in those places. The church that will
be at Tempormorial Baptist Church built a senior home next
to it. And now all of those people are threatened
because if they don't have any other way of paying
for it, and when the Medicaid is taken away, they'll
be thrown out of those homes. And so it is
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one third of our state budget is medicaid. One third
of our state budget budget about forty six billion dollars,
about fifteen billion of that is medicaid. Out of our
six billion dollar city budget, at least one billion of
it is medicaid. So all of these programs that go
along with it, all of the resources of our city
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government and our state government will be severely affected if
these Medicaid dollars are taken away, right.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And also those dollars go towards helping individuals who are disabled. Yes,
and that's another aspect, and it's not just you know,
I think a lot of people think medicaid is is
like a welfare state type of institution, but it's not.
I know tons of people who benefit from it who
don't qualify into the stereotype that people might have. Yes
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of what medicaid does cover and who it covers.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So it's unfortunate that what these individuals continue to do
is use race as a tool to explain a particular
program or that's something that only helps black people and
therefore you shouldn't care. Well, you should care because it
helps all people, and you should care whether it helps
black people too, playing on it at racism to get
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people to feel that I don't need to I don't
need to worry about that program. I don't need to
worry about what that is. It is the kind of
thing that this country has done, year after year after
year to separate and divide us, to make us feel
less than and to defeat the forces of justice who
want fairness in quality for everybody by dividing us along race.
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And we have to stand strong and fight against every
attempt they try to do that because it costs all
of us. Racism does not just cost black people, it
cost everyone.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So give us some details on this rally that's happening
on April twenty second.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
It is at tenth Memorial Baptist Church six pm to eight,
maybe eight thirty. If you know how much where we
get done, but you're gonna come there, You're gonna be educated,
but there will be direct action you'll be able to
do that night to make a difference in our city
and to make a difference in our country. And then
we will keep building moving forward to push back against
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the white nationalists and white supremacy of this administration and
to build the kind of country that we want to
really have, a country where everyone has an opportunity to
grow and to prosper together.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
If people would like more information, how do they find
out more?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They can check me out on Facebook. That's Reverend Holston,
Reverend Gregory Holston on Facebook. You also can check with
our partners, Pen Policy Center, who has a whole page
upon this as well as when many of our other
partners s CiU Sciu Healthcare all listed on our page.
Were about twenty different organizations across the city of Philadelphia
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or banning together to make sure all of us are
engaged in this great fight.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Since you are a pastor, I always am always tempted
to ask you to provide a little bit of scripture
that connects with the message of what your hope will
happen at this rally.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
It's a call to real change, to have a real
vision that we can share together of all of us
can prosper together. And to recognize that we all give
to our government, and so we should direct dollars to
where we should help everybody. Where your treasure is also
is your heart is the scripture. And let our treasure
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show our heart, our heart to the people, our heart
to the people in need, our heart to invest in
all of us so we all grow and prosper together.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I love that. Reverend Gregory Holston, founder of Just Nation,
dedicated to fighting racism at every level of government. He
is one of the sponsors of the April twenty first
Coalition to Defend Democracy mass rally at tenth Memorial Baptist Church.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Thank you so much, Thank you again.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
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the life saving work of the Gift of Life donor Program,
which is proudly celebrating its fiftieth anniversary. Joining us our
Richard has who's president and CEO of Gift of Life,
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and Justin Trottman, a Filly native, husband, father, and kidney
transplant waitlist patient. As one of the oldest and largest
organ procurement organizations in the US, Gift of Life has
been a leader in supporting patients and families through the
power of organ and tissue donation. Their signature event, the
twentieth Annual Donor Dash, brings together thousands of people across
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our region to honor donor heroes, celebrate recipients, and support
those still waiting. So I'm so delighted to have you both.
Hear Rick, congratulations on fifty years of the Gift of
Life program. Can you take us back to the beginning,
When did it all start and what has helped the
organization grow into a national leader in organ procurement.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Thanks for having us today. Gift to Life was founded
by two transplant surgeons in nineteen seventy four who were
looking for better ways to coordinate donation.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Prior to that.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
There really wasn't any kind of system, and they would
have relationships at different hospitals to be able to talk
to families and procure organs. And they thought, you know what,
as transplant surgeon, our expertise really is in the surgery
and the immunosuppression and the medication. But we really need
to come together and do a collaborative effort to educate
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the public as well as coordinate the donation.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So they hired their very first.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Employee in nineteen seventy four, who happened to be a
social worker who was tasked with traveling out to the
various hospitals after somebody died to talk to families about
donation than if they were interested, you know, coordinated all
the different logistics that were involved. Early on, it was
mostly just kidney donation, and they came up with our
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Probably one of the best marketing things we've ever done
was our phone number, which is one eight hundred kidney one.
So it was very easy for hospital staff to remember that, Hey,
after our patient had died, all I have to do
is dial one hitter kidney one and someone will come
and help us with that. And that was really then
the origins of what we did. In those early days,
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we coordinated maybe twenty four donors a year. We're up
to well over seven hundred, and since the beginning of
the national system, our community has provided more donors and
more transplant than in any other community in the United States.
And that's something that we're very proud of because it
takes a lot of work, not just our staff, but
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the hospitals that we work with, and then the selfless
donors and their families who make that decision to say
yes at their worst possible time.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Justin first of all, thank you for joining us and
sharing your story. You've been on dialysis and you are
waiting for a kidney transplant since twenty twenty two. How
has this experience impacted you and your family.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
First of all, thank you for having me. It's an
honor to do this. It's impacted me and my family
by there are some things that you want to be
a part of, but unfortunately, due to doing the treatment
and having doctor's appointments, you're unfortunately aren't.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Able to be a part of.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Especially for my two boys, they have practices in the morning,
they have school trips, they have school activities, they have
different activities that would happen in the morning. My time
for a dialysis at six o'clock in the morning, and
that usually trickles and my duration is four hours. They're
starting school on Saturdays, they have like a practice, they're
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doing trips of course in the morning, they'll start from
eight o'clock like astudent. As school starts in they're on
their way to the trips and I'm still in the
chair doing treatment. So it takes away time from family activities,
doing things that you want to do with your.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Wife, getting things ready for a morning.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Sometimes you aren't able to do it because the first
thing you're thinking about and the first thing that you
have to do is get ready for treatment and go
to treatment. It really impacts time and impacts the time
and it impacts the activities and the life events that
you could be missing out.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
One yeah, for hours out of a day is a
substantial part of your day, and not being able to
do the things that you'd like to do with your
family and friends has got to have a big impact.
I wonder if you can talk about what it was
like to get this diagnosis that said you have to
get a new kidney.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
To be completely honest, when the nephrologists came in and
said that I have this condition, I was just like,
what do I have to do in order to get
myself better, keep myself healthy, stay around for my family.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Told me, you have to start diasis immediately.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
We have to try to get you on a list
for a kidney transplant. I was just like, Okay, I'm
a religious person, so I know that my faith would
keep me strong, would keep me positive. And it's been
three years and a few months since it's happened, and
I am still positive.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
I know miracle is going to come my.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Way, and not just me, not just me, all others
who are looking for a transplant in Oregon. A miracle
will come our way. And a positive attitude really helps
you get through a lot when I heard the news,
I could have really moped, and I know how I am.
Once I get down on something, it takes a while
to really recover from it. So something that extreme, who
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knows how long it would have taken me to recover
from it and get down on myself.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
But something inside of me was just like, be positive.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So you made a choice. You made a choice to
stay positive and to maintain hope and prayer and faith,
which is very, very wonderful to hear rick. Right now,
more than half the people on the wait list are
from communities of color. Why is it especially important for
black and brown communities to understand the need for organ
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donations and to register and what are some of the
obstacles for making that happen more effectively?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Really, since the beginning of our program, organ donation and
transplant really is a neighbor helping neighbor scenario. Unfortunately, diabetes
and hypertension are more prevalent in the black and brown communities,
which leads to more kidney disease and more need for dialysis,
and unfortunately for transplantation, it's in some of those same
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communities where a number of myths surrounding organ donation still
are there in terms of they won't do everything they
can to save my life if I put that donor
designation on my driver's license, And little do they know
that right next door, you know, a block away, is
a patient like Justin who's in need of a kidney transplant.
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And so really making that connection and providing the education
on how donation and transplant works that by you saying yes,
you're really most likely going to be helping a neighbor
of you or someone that looks like you. Unfortunately, sixty
percent of the patients who are waiting for a kidney
transplant in Philadelphia are people of color. We have to
do more, not only in donation and transplant, but trying
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to prevent kidney disease in the first place, so better health,
better control of diabetes and hypertension and things like.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
That, so that you never get to that waiting list
and that you you know, you keep your kidneys healthy.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
But until that, we try to do as much as
we can in the public to educate folks and really
having Justin here today and for him to tell his story,
no doubt we'll have an impact on a listener and say, oh,
I didn't know it was somebody like Justin, who could
benefit And I'm going to rethink my decision about donation
and transplant. And so we just have to do more
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to make that connection because we know end stage organ
failure doesn't know any different.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, Justin, clearly your faith has had a huge impact
on your ability to navigate this very challenging time in
your life. Now, I wonder if you can talk to
our listeners, those who are on the fence, who are saying,
you know, it may not be for me. Little aside,
I have a donor on my license, I have a
living will. I am one hundred percent behind the idea
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of being an organ donor if that time were to come,
and understand that the doctors will do everything possible to
keep me alive. If it's down to that, there's no
rush to take organs that don't belong. I mean, it's
just a myth that we have to overcome. So I
wonder if Justin you can send a message out to
our listeners, the ones who are thinking, yeah, it's not
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for me. I don't think I'm for that. What would
you say to them?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
First of all, thank you for being an organ donor.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
That means a lot to me, And all those who are.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Waiting for the right time and the right organ to
be transplanted into us really appreciate it and appreciating ahead
of time, those who are organ donors, those who have
decided to do that, and for those who are on
the fence. I'm a comic book fan. I'm all big
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with superheroes and all that you are. And for those
who are considering you will be a superhero, because what's
the first thing that people think about with superheroes. Superheroes
save lives. You are and you will be a superhero.
You are saving a life. You are extending a life
of someone who wants to see their children grow.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Up to do extraordinary things.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
You are an example of just being help to someone
who needs it. And it's is it a big decision? Absolutely? Absolutely,
It's not a decision like.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Do I wear blue shoes? Do I wear brown shoes?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Am I going to when the time comes have a
part of me taken out of me and put into somebody?
Is it a hard decision? Is it a tough decision?
Is it a decision that you really have to sit
down and think about. Absolutely, But the benefits at the
end of the day, you are saving someone's life. You
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are helping someone live out the rest of their life.
There can be so many things that people want to
do and they can't do it because they have this affliction,
they have this issue that that's going on with them,
and you, being a future donor, will really help them
to live out what.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
They wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yeah, and help families. It's not just the person that
needs the organ that you're helping out. It's the families too.
It's the families too. It's the wives, it's the husbands,
it's the children, grandchildren, cousins, uncles, aunts, it's everyone in
the village that you're helping out doing that.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
So it's not just one person you're helping. It's not
just one life that you're saving. It's hundreds. It's dozens
of lives that you're saving.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
So if you're considering, I hope that it's something that
you can take in. You're a true life superhero. Not
all superheroes wear capes.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Well, I just have to say that I have had
the privilege and pleasure of interviewing many people who've been
the recipients of not only one organ, but multiple organs,
and in each of those cases, I asked them. What
were you able to experience and perhaps you weren't wouldn't
have been able to experience, the marriage of children, the
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birth of grandchildren, being able to run in a race
where they never were able to run before. And speaking
of race and dashing and walking and all those good things,
the Donor Dash is a powerful and emotional event that
happens every year. Rick. What does the twentieth annual Donor
Dash represent and how does it support the mission of
increasing donor awareness and registration.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, it's really our signature event, Lorraine, to really bring
together the entire community of donation and transplant into one
spot at the showcase that transplantation works, that folks like
Justin who get an organ transplant can go back to
leading a normal life. It honors our donor heroes and
their families who made.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
That decision to say yes.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
It brings in all the transplant professionals really who without
their expertise, transplantation wouldn't happen. And it also recognizes the
caregivers in the ICUs, the physicians and nurses who work
diligently twenty four to seven to really care for donors
and their families so that they can say yes. And
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for us, it's an opportunity to really support and get
that message out. We hope to have fifteen thousand people
there on April twenty seventh.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
We'll have a lot of entertainment.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
We'll have some health fair benefit information in terms of
how to keep your organs healthy so you don't have
to get a transplant. There will be entertainment by Philadelphia Freeway,
a kidney recipient and a donor Dad. There's a lot
of fun and an activity that we're going to do
and we'll have a three k walk, five k run,
and at a ten k run, so something for all
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levels of athleticism. And really it's just a great event
and we really invite the entire community to come out
and celebrate. You know, as part of our fiftieth anniversary,
we're trying to sign up fifty thousand new organ donors
and we're at like forty seven and change, and we
need this extra push for everyone to go to donors
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one dot organ to register as a donor to be
able to really help patients like Justin who are in
such desperate need of an organ transplant.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I just want to give a shout out to Gift
of Life because I know that run is a very
very very big event, but they do a lot of
things around this area, including like I said, I'm a
member of Saint Thomas Church in the Overbrook section of
West Philly. Twice a year Gift of Life. We do
a Gift of Life concert, they do a series, and
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they do a service. There's actually like an organ doornation
service that we do one Sunday a year.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
So Gift of Life is they're always out.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
They're always putting the word out that donation is something
that is helpful for everyone.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
And they've been doing it for this long and.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
They're very very helpful with spreading that word.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
That's great, And you're talking about donor Sabbath, which happens
every year, and that's wonderful that your church is so engaged.
And I also want to just comment back to something
you said. It can be a difficult decision, but it
can also be a very easy decision because at the
end of the day, all you have to do is
go on to the website donorswand dot org and sign up,
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sign up, and forget it. It's like it's not going
to impact you unless God forbids something were to happen.
And then you would know you would have the comfort
of knowing that your organs would go to save someone's
life like yours, Justin, or to provide a cornea for
someone to restore their site, or a burn victim to
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help them heal. There's so many different things that organ
donation can do, and while it can be challenging for
some people to think about it, it can also be
as easy as checking out that website and what is
that website?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Rick, It's donorswe dot orgon.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I always like to say it only takes about thirty
seconds to register that thirty seconds can mean the lifetime
for somebody else.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, and having lost someone to kidney disease, and knowing
individuals who have been living donors, also knowing people that
are on the transplant list, knowing people my brother in
law is a two time kidney transplant recipient. So clearly,
organ donation is something that deeply, deeply I care about
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and anyone out there listening. It is so simple and
you can be a superhero, just like Justin said, by
signing up with Gift of Life, go to donorswe dot
org and of course the donor dash and what is
the date on that again.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
April twenty seventh, first run and starting at nine am.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Fantastic and I will be there and I will be
there with my shoes, my sneakers on, ready to maybe walk,
but support and regardless. And I want to thank you
both for shining a light on the fiftieth anniversary of
Gift of Life doing so much life saving work for
so many people. And of course Richard has who is
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the president and CEO of Gift of Life, and Justin Troutman,
a Philly native, a husband, a father, someone who is
on the transplant list. Let's make sure that he is
able to get the kidney transplant that he needs to
save his life and to allow him to be the father,
the son, the husband that he wants to be to
his family going forward. And we thank you both for
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joining us here today. Thank you so much, and sign
up donorswe dot org. That is the website. Do it now,
It's so simple. Thirty seconds has Rick said, so thank
you both for joining us today.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Thanks Loreene, thanks you for having me.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
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Good morning, Welcome to Winsight, a show about empowering our community.
I'm Lorraine Balladmorrow, We're going to shine a light on
the life saving work of the Gift of Life Program,
celebrating its fiftieth anniversary and the upcoming donor dash. With
more than half the people on the transplant wait list
from communities of color, this message is more important than
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ever first in these very challenging times, a lot of
folks are kind of wondering, well, what do I do?
How is the Trump administration impacting on me? And is
there anything that I can say? Is my voice going
to be heard? Well, there are some folks who say
it's time to stand up. It's the Coalition to Defend
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Democracy having a mass rally to tell us more about it.
The Reverend Gregory Holston, founder of Just Nation, which is
an organization dedicated to fighting racism at every level of government.
There's a rally coming up on the twenty second of April.
Pastor Holston, thank you so much for joining us here today,
So tell us what this mass rally is all about.
(01:05):
What is the purpose of it?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Thank you for the opportunity to come and speak. I
would just say I know many times people say this,
This Trump administration and the policies that are being created
right now are the greatest threat to our democracy in
my lifetime. And if we're not organized across the board,
particularly with this Raley directly looking to the black community,
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I'm afraid that our way of life that has been
created over the last hundred, one hundred and fifty years,
of the various programs that are part of the fabric
of what makes our nation what it is, Social Security, Medicaid,
snap benefits, all of these organizations, all of these programs
may be undermined and may be destroyed if we're not
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organized right now to come together and fight for a
country that's not uniformed, a country that is diverse, a
country that doesn't believe in inequity but believes in equality,
a country doesn't believe in exclusion but believes in inclusion.
If that's what we believe, is time to stand up
and fight.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
There are so many people that are reacting to this
second Trump presidency very differently than the first time around.
There were some mass rallies, There was the Women's March,
There are all the marches to end racism, and the
activism around police brutality, But this time around, there seems
(02:31):
to be almost a stunned silence. People are so overwhelmed
by the quantity of things that President Trump is proposing
that it almost seems as though they're paralyzed. And I
wonder if you can maybe speak to that, and what
are your thoughts around that.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
That's a difficult question. I think there's a wearing down
as is going on with the language and the type
of things they're doing on executive orders and the election.
It just happened as well, the disappointment of that election,
with all of what was said. It's not like he
didn't telegraph what he was going to do. Those of
us recall Project twenty twenty five, where he basically laid
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out that he would do all of these things and
take us back in this way. So if some of
us are weary from all of these fights, from the
accumulation of these fights, and probably needed almost a respite
for a moment. But I believe right now the country
is starting to galvanize, starting to organize. I see it
across the country and city after city after city, march
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is beginning to happen, rallys beginning to happen, Things being
getting to happen at going, whether it's Target for its
DEI policies or Tesla for what its owner and founder
continues to do. I think we're building and moving in
the right direction. And part of our fight if this rally,
is to organize more of the black community around all
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of this so that we can have this diverse coalition
to push back against Trump.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
What are you hoping to accomplish in this rally? We've
seen rallies that have pushed things forward, pushed the movement forward.
What is your hope for this rally?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Three specific things. First, to continue to educate because so
much is happening. People need to get the width in
the breath of what every institution, every program that's being affected.
It's not one issue, it's a philosophy that's affecting hundreds
of programs and hundreds of departments across our federal government.
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And so getting people to understand the scope of it
and not be afraid of that scope, but know that
we can attack it and be victorious over how great
that scope may be. So part of this is education.
Part of it is also some rapid response. In April
and May, the budgets are going to be dealt with
at the federal government level. The eight hundred and eighty
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billion dollar cut in Medicaid is going to be voted on.
There's a small margin in the House right now. Three
Republicans change and don't vote for these cuts. We can
defeat those cuts. And so part of the rally is
going to be doing the direct calling, the direct action
to make sure that our voices are heard in those
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channels in those halls of Congress, and then finally organized
in advance for the things that are to come to
really put an organization in pace. While my organization is
not as nonpartisan, there are other organizations that are going
to be doing the electoral work going forward and getting
a sense of what we need to do going forward.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I'd like to go back to what you said about
the cuts in Medicaid. Eight hundred billion dollars in medicaid cuts,
and I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding among many people
about what medicaid actually is and what it covers. And
I think they don't realize that it really helps children,
It helps our elders, tell us what we'll be losing.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yes, helps those who cannot afford health insurance themselves. Those
individuals who who do not have jobs that pay for
their health insurance. Medicaid is a place that they can go.
For children and for seniors. So any senior home you see,
any senior developed you may see, is either going to
be funded and built by Medicaid dollars or the people
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in there are giving Medicaid dollars to pay to be
able to live in those places. The church that will
be at Tempormorial Baptist Church built a senior home next
to it. And now all of those people are threatened
because if they don't have any other way of paying
for it, and when the Medicaid is taken away, they'll
be thrown out of those homes. And so it is
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one third of our state budget is medicaid. One third
of our state budget budget about forty six billion dollars,
about fifteen billion of that is medicaid. Out of our
six billion dollar city budget, at least one billion of
it is medicaid. So all of these programs that go
along with it, all of the resources of our city
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government and our state government will be severely affected if
these Medicaid dollars are taken away, right.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And also those dollars go towards helping individuals who are disabled. Yes,
and that's another aspect, and it's not just you know,
I think a lot of people think medicaid is is
like a welfare state type of institution, but it's not.
I know tons of people who benefit from it who
don't qualify into the stereotype that people might have. Yes
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of what medicaid does cover and who it covers.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So it's unfortunate that what these individuals continue to do
is use race as a tool to explain a particular
program or that's something that only helps black people and
therefore you shouldn't care. Well, you should care because it
helps all people, and you should care whether it helps
black people too, playing on it at racism to get
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people to feel that I don't need to I don't
need to worry about that program. I don't need to
worry about what that is. It is the kind of
thing that this country has done, year after year after
year to separate and divide us, to make us feel
less than and to defeat the forces of justice who
want fairness in quality for everybody by dividing us along race.
(08:23):
And we have to stand strong and fight against every
attempt they try to do that because it costs all
of us. Racism does not just cost black people, it
cost everyone.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So give us some details on this rally that's happening
on April twenty second.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
It is at tenth Memorial Baptist Church six pm to eight,
maybe eight thirty. If you know how much where we
get done, but you're gonna come there, You're gonna be educated,
but there will be direct action you'll be able to
do that night to make a difference in our city
and to make a difference in our country. And then
we will keep building moving forward to push back against
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the white nationalists and white supremacy of this administration and
to build the kind of country that we want to
really have, a country where everyone has an opportunity to
grow and to prosper together.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
If people would like more information, how do they find
out more?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They can check me out on Facebook. That's Reverend Holston,
Reverend Gregory Holston on Facebook. You also can check with
our partners, Pen Policy Center, who has a whole page
upon this as well as when many of our other
partners s CiU Sciu Healthcare all listed on our page.
Were about twenty different organizations across the city of Philadelphia
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or banning together to make sure all of us are
engaged in this great fight.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Since you are a pastor, I always am always tempted
to ask you to provide a little bit of scripture
that connects with the message of what your hope will
happen at this rally.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
It's a call to real change, to have a real
vision that we can share together of all of us
can prosper together. And to recognize that we all give
to our government, and so we should direct dollars to
where we should help everybody. Where your treasure is also
is your heart is the scripture. And let our treasure
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show our heart, our heart to the people, our heart
to the people in need, our heart to invest in
all of us so we all grow and prosper together.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I love that. Reverend Gregory Holston, founder of Just Nation,
dedicated to fighting racism at every level of government. He
is one of the sponsors of the April twenty first
Coalition to Defend Democracy mass rally at tenth Memorial Baptist Church.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Thank you so much, Thank you again.
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can SaveLives dot org. Today we're shining a light on
the life saving work of the Gift of Life donor Program,
which is proudly celebrating its fiftieth anniversary. Joining us our
Richard has who's president and CEO of Gift of Life,
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and Justin Trottman, a Filly native, husband, father, and kidney
transplant waitlist patient. As one of the oldest and largest
organ procurement organizations in the US, Gift of Life has
been a leader in supporting patients and families through the
power of organ and tissue donation. Their signature event, the
twentieth Annual Donor Dash, brings together thousands of people across
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our region to honor donor heroes, celebrate recipients, and support
those still waiting. So I'm so delighted to have you both.
Hear Rick, congratulations on fifty years of the Gift of
Life program. Can you take us back to the beginning,
When did it all start and what has helped the
organization grow into a national leader in organ procurement.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Thanks for having us today. Gift to Life was founded
by two transplant surgeons in nineteen seventy four who were
looking for better ways to coordinate donation.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Prior to that.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
There really wasn't any kind of system, and they would
have relationships at different hospitals to be able to talk
to families and procure organs. And they thought, you know what,
as transplant surgeon, our expertise really is in the surgery
and the immunosuppression and the medication. But we really need
to come together and do a collaborative effort to educate
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the public as well as coordinate the donation.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So they hired their very first.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Employee in nineteen seventy four, who happened to be a
social worker who was tasked with traveling out to the
various hospitals after somebody died to talk to families about
donation than if they were interested, you know, coordinated all
the different logistics that were involved. Early on, it was
mostly just kidney donation, and they came up with our
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Probably one of the best marketing things we've ever done
was our phone number, which is one eight hundred kidney one.
So it was very easy for hospital staff to remember that, Hey,
after our patient had died, all I have to do
is dial one hitter kidney one and someone will come
and help us with that. And that was really then
the origins of what we did. In those early days,
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we coordinated maybe twenty four donors a year. We're up
to well over seven hundred, and since the beginning of
the national system, our community has provided more donors and
more transplant than in any other community in the United States.
And that's something that we're very proud of because it
takes a lot of work, not just our staff, but
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the hospitals that we work with, and then the selfless
donors and their families who make that decision to say
yes at their worst possible time.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Justin first of all, thank you for joining us and
sharing your story. You've been on dialysis and you are
waiting for a kidney transplant since twenty twenty two. How
has this experience impacted you and your family.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
First of all, thank you for having me. It's an
honor to do this. It's impacted me and my family
by there are some things that you want to be
a part of, but unfortunately, due to doing the treatment
and having doctor's appointments, you're unfortunately aren't.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Able to be a part of.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Especially for my two boys, they have practices in the morning,
they have school trips, they have school activities, they have
different activities that would happen in the morning. My time
for a dialysis at six o'clock in the morning, and
that usually trickles and my duration is four hours. They're
starting school on Saturdays, they have like a practice, they're
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doing trips of course in the morning, they'll start from
eight o'clock like astudent. As school starts in they're on
their way to the trips and I'm still in the
chair doing treatment. So it takes away time from family activities,
doing things that you want to do with your.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Wife, getting things ready for a morning.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Sometimes you aren't able to do it because the first
thing you're thinking about and the first thing that you
have to do is get ready for treatment and go
to treatment. It really impacts time and impacts the time
and it impacts the activities and the life events that
you could be missing out.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
One yeah, for hours out of a day is a
substantial part of your day, and not being able to
do the things that you'd like to do with your
family and friends has got to have a big impact.
I wonder if you can talk about what it was
like to get this diagnosis that said you have to
get a new kidney.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
To be completely honest, when the nephrologists came in and
said that I have this condition, I was just like,
what do I have to do in order to get
myself better, keep myself healthy, stay around for my family.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Told me, you have to start diasis immediately.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
We have to try to get you on a list
for a kidney transplant. I was just like, Okay, I'm
a religious person, so I know that my faith would
keep me strong, would keep me positive. And it's been
three years and a few months since it's happened, and
I am still positive.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
I know miracle is going to come my.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Way, and not just me, not just me, all others
who are looking for a transplant in Oregon. A miracle
will come our way. And a positive attitude really helps
you get through a lot when I heard the news,
I could have really moped, and I know how I am.
Once I get down on something, it takes a while
to really recover from it. So something that extreme, who
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knows how long it would have taken me to recover
from it and get down on myself.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
But something inside of me was just like, be positive.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So you made a choice. You made a choice to
stay positive and to maintain hope and prayer and faith,
which is very, very wonderful to hear rick. Right now,
more than half the people on the wait list are
from communities of color. Why is it especially important for
black and brown communities to understand the need for organ
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donations and to register and what are some of the
obstacles for making that happen more effectively?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Really, since the beginning of our program, organ donation and
transplant really is a neighbor helping neighbor scenario. Unfortunately, diabetes
and hypertension are more prevalent in the black and brown communities,
which leads to more kidney disease and more need for dialysis,
and unfortunately for transplantation, it's in some of those same
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communities where a number of myths surrounding organ donation still
are there in terms of they won't do everything they
can to save my life if I put that donor
designation on my driver's license, And little do they know
that right next door, you know, a block away, is
a patient like Justin who's in need of a kidney transplant.
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And so really making that connection and providing the education
on how donation and transplant works that by you saying yes,
you're really most likely going to be helping a neighbor
of you or someone that looks like you. Unfortunately, sixty
percent of the patients who are waiting for a kidney
transplant in Philadelphia are people of color. We have to
do more, not only in donation and transplant, but trying
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to prevent kidney disease in the first place, so better health,
better control of diabetes and hypertension and things like.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
That, so that you never get to that waiting list
and that you you know, you keep your kidneys healthy.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
But until that, we try to do as much as
we can in the public to educate folks and really
having Justin here today and for him to tell his story,
no doubt we'll have an impact on a listener and say, oh,
I didn't know it was somebody like Justin, who could
benefit And I'm going to rethink my decision about donation
and transplant. And so we just have to do more
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to make that connection because we know end stage organ
failure doesn't know any different.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, Justin, clearly your faith has had a huge impact
on your ability to navigate this very challenging time in
your life. Now, I wonder if you can talk to
our listeners, those who are on the fence, who are saying,
you know, it may not be for me. Little aside,
I have a donor on my license, I have a
living will. I am one hundred percent behind the idea
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of being an organ donor if that time were to come,
and understand that the doctors will do everything possible to
keep me alive. If it's down to that, there's no
rush to take organs that don't belong. I mean, it's
just a myth that we have to overcome. So I
wonder if Justin you can send a message out to
our listeners, the ones who are thinking, yeah, it's not
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for me. I don't think I'm for that. What would
you say to them?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
First of all, thank you for being an organ donor.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
That means a lot to me, And all those who are.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Waiting for the right time and the right organ to
be transplanted into us really appreciate it and appreciating ahead
of time, those who are organ donors, those who have
decided to do that, and for those who are on
the fence. I'm a comic book fan. I'm all big
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with superheroes and all that you are. And for those
who are considering you will be a superhero, because what's
the first thing that people think about with superheroes. Superheroes
save lives. You are and you will be a superhero.
You are saving a life. You are extending a life
of someone who wants to see their children grow.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Up to do extraordinary things.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
You are an example of just being help to someone
who needs it. And it's is it a big decision? Absolutely? Absolutely,
It's not a decision like.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Do I wear blue shoes? Do I wear brown shoes?
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Am I going to when the time comes have a
part of me taken out of me and put into somebody?
Is it a hard decision? Is it a tough decision?
Is it a decision that you really have to sit
down and think about. Absolutely, But the benefits at the
end of the day, you are saving someone's life. You
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are helping someone live out the rest of their life.
There can be so many things that people want to
do and they can't do it because they have this affliction,
they have this issue that that's going on with them,
and you, being a future donor, will really help them
to live out what.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
They wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yeah, and help families. It's not just the person that
needs the organ that you're helping out. It's the families too.
It's the families too. It's the wives, it's the husbands,
it's the children, grandchildren, cousins, uncles, aunts, it's everyone in
the village that you're helping out doing that.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
So it's not just one person you're helping. It's not
just one life that you're saving. It's hundreds. It's dozens
of lives that you're saving.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
So if you're considering, I hope that it's something that
you can take in. You're a true life superhero. Not
all superheroes wear capes.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Well, I just have to say that I have had
the privilege and pleasure of interviewing many people who've been
the recipients of not only one organ, but multiple organs,
and in each of those cases, I asked them. What
were you able to experience and perhaps you weren't wouldn't
have been able to experience, the marriage of children, the
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birth of grandchildren, being able to run in a race
where they never were able to run before. And speaking
of race and dashing and walking and all those good things,
the Donor Dash is a powerful and emotional event that
happens every year. Rick. What does the twentieth annual Donor
Dash represent and how does it support the mission of
increasing donor awareness and registration.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, it's really our signature event, Lorraine, to really bring
together the entire community of donation and transplant into one
spot at the showcase that transplantation works, that folks like
Justin who get an organ transplant can go back to
leading a normal life. It honors our donor heroes and
their families who made.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
That decision to say yes.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
It brings in all the transplant professionals really who without
their expertise, transplantation wouldn't happen. And it also recognizes the
caregivers in the ICUs, the physicians and nurses who work
diligently twenty four to seven to really care for donors
and their families so that they can say yes. And
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for us, it's an opportunity to really support and get
that message out. We hope to have fifteen thousand people
there on April twenty seventh.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
We'll have a lot of entertainment.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
We'll have some health fair benefit information in terms of
how to keep your organs healthy so you don't have
to get a transplant. There will be entertainment by Philadelphia Freeway,
a kidney recipient and a donor Dad. There's a lot
of fun and an activity that we're going to do
and we'll have a three k walk, five k run,
and at a ten k run, so something for all
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levels of athleticism. And really it's just a great event
and we really invite the entire community to come out
and celebrate. You know, as part of our fiftieth anniversary,
we're trying to sign up fifty thousand new organ donors
and we're at like forty seven and change, and we
need this extra push for everyone to go to donors
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one dot organ to register as a donor to be
able to really help patients like Justin who are in
such desperate need of an organ transplant.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I just want to give a shout out to Gift
of Life because I know that run is a very
very very big event, but they do a lot of
things around this area, including like I said, I'm a
member of Saint Thomas Church in the Overbrook section of
West Philly. Twice a year Gift of Life. We do
a Gift of Life concert, they do a series, and
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they do a service. There's actually like an organ doornation
service that we do one Sunday a year.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
So Gift of Life is they're always out.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
They're always putting the word out that donation is something
that is helpful for everyone.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
And they've been doing it for this long and.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
They're very very helpful with spreading that word.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
That's great, And you're talking about donor Sabbath, which happens
every year, and that's wonderful that your church is so engaged.
And I also want to just comment back to something
you said. It can be a difficult decision, but it
can also be a very easy decision because at the
end of the day, all you have to do is
go on to the website donorswand dot org and sign up,
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sign up, and forget it. It's like it's not going
to impact you unless God forbids something were to happen.
And then you would know you would have the comfort
of knowing that your organs would go to save someone's
life like yours, Justin, or to provide a cornea for
someone to restore their site, or a burn victim to
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help them heal. There's so many different things that organ
donation can do, and while it can be challenging for
some people to think about it, it can also be
as easy as checking out that website and what is
that website?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Rick, It's donorswe dot orgon.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I always like to say it only takes about thirty
seconds to register that thirty seconds can mean the lifetime
for somebody else.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, and having lost someone to kidney disease, and knowing
individuals who have been living donors, also knowing people that
are on the transplant list, knowing people my brother in
law is a two time kidney transplant recipient. So clearly,
organ donation is something that deeply, deeply I care about
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and anyone out there listening. It is so simple and
you can be a superhero, just like Justin said, by
signing up with Gift of Life, go to donorswe dot
org and of course the donor dash and what is
the date on that again.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
April twenty seventh, first run and starting at nine am.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Fantastic and I will be there and I will be
there with my shoes, my sneakers on, ready to maybe walk,
but support and regardless. And I want to thank you
both for shining a light on the fiftieth anniversary of
Gift of Life doing so much life saving work for
so many people. And of course Richard has who is
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the president and CEO of Gift of Life, and Justin Troutman,
a Philly native, a husband, a father, someone who is
on the transplant list. Let's make sure that he is
able to get the kidney transplant that he needs to
save his life and to allow him to be the father,
the son, the husband that he wants to be to
his family going forward. And we thank you both for
(28:33):
joining us here today. Thank you so much, and sign
up donorswe dot org. That is the website. Do it now,
It's so simple. Thirty seconds has Rick said, so thank
you both for joining us today.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Thanks Loreene, thanks you for having me.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
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