What's Going On: APM Job Fair, Breaking the Bully Cycle, SpeakOUT with Angela Giampolo

💼 APM Job Fair
Looking to make an impact and grow your career? Join Asociación Puertorriqueños en Marcha (APM) for their Job Fair on October 22nd from 10 AM to 3 PM at 730 W. Berks Street, Philadelphia. APM is hiring across multiple fields—child welfare, foster care, early childhood education, community, and economic development—and offers top-tier benefits including medical, dental, vision, life insurance, retirement plans, and generous paid time off.
🎙️ Guest: Valerie Betancourt, Talent Acquisition Partner at APM
🌐 Website: www.apmphila.org
📸 Social Media: Instagram @apmforeveryone

🚫 Breaking the Bully Cycle
Bullying continues to affect millions of children and teens—both in person and online. As part of National Bullying Prevention Month, Child Guidance Resource Centers (CGRC) will host Breaking the Bully Cycle on Wednesday, October 29, from 6:00–8:00 PM at The Kelly Center – Havertown Music, Arts & Community, 4 E. Eagle Road, Havertown, PA.
The event features Dr. Claudio Cerullo, educator, author of Inside the Mind of a Bully: From Victim to Advocate, and member of the President’s Council, along with Lawana Scales, Director of Advocacy at CGRC. Attendees will gain practical tools for prevention, hear from a panel of experts, and the first 25 guests will receive a free copy of Dr. Cerullo’s book.
🌐 Register: bit.ly/BreakingtheBullyCycle
🌐 Websites: www.drclaudiocerullo.com | www.cgrc.org
📸 Social Media: @childguidanceresourcecenters | @drclaudiocerullo

🏳️‍🌈 SpeakOUT: Conversion Therapy and the Courts
On this edition of SpeakOUT—our monthly segment spotlighting voices shaping the LGBTQ+ experience locally and nationally—we’re joined by Angela Giampolo, founder of Giampolo Law Group and widely known as the Philly Gay Lawyer. A leading LGBTQ+ legal expert and advocate, Angela is also the creator of the Caravan of Hope, a national initiative providing free legal services to underserved LGBTQ+ communities.
Angela brings powerful insight into the intersection of law, policy, and lived experience as we discuss an upcoming Supreme Court decision that could significantly impact the future of conversion therapy.
📌 Connect with Angela Giampolo
🌐 Websites: giampololaw.com | caravanofhope.lgbt
📸 Instagram: @yourgaylawyer
🐦 Twitter/X: @phillygaylawyer

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Welcome to What's going on? A show about
making a difference in our lives and our communities. I'm
Lorraine ballad Morrow. Bullying affects millions of children and teens
every year, even adults. We'll talk about an upcoming event
breaking the bully cycle, taking place during National Bullying Prevention Month.

(00:20):
In our monthly Speak Out segment, we'll discuss an important
Supreme Court case that could impact the controversial practice of
conversion therapy. But first, want to make an impact and
grow your career, Join apm's job fare on October twenty second,
from ten am to three pm at seven point thirty
West Work Street in Philadelphia. The Associacion Puerto Ricinus and

(00:43):
Marca is hiring positions in a lot of different areas.
To tell us all about it is Daisy Fontanez who
is HR Talent Acquisition and Retention Director. So Daisy APM
has been a pillar in the community for decades. What
makes it such a rewarding place to work?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Loraene, thank you so much for having a moment to
talk to us. One of the biggest things that makes
associates in Puertoriguano's in Marcha a wonderful place to work
is the mission and our vision and to really impact
our community right making sure that we're giving them the
resources that they need to give back to their community

(01:22):
get themselves to where they want to be. That is
the primary reason I come to work every day.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, that's very motivating. What kinds of roles are available
at the upcoming job fair and who should consider applying?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
So thank you for that. So definitely have positions available
in our case management roles. Individuals who may be interested
are people who want to give back to the community.
They need to have a degree in a minimum a
bachelor's degree in psychology, social work, criminal justice. But if
your goal and your mission in life is to help
your community grow, we're the place to be.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Daisy fundain is Hi, our Talent Acquisition and Retention Director APM,
is hosting a job fare October twenty second, from ten
am to three pm at seven point thirty West Burke
Street in Philadelphia, offering jobs and positions in child welfare,
foster care, early childhood education, community and economic development, and

(02:20):
much more so. If you're out there looking for a job,
and we know plenty of people are certainly looking to
either get a job or to elevate their positions. Check
out apm's job fare on October twenty second, Daisy, thank
you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Thank you, it was my pleasure.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
You have a wonderful day.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Bullyan remains a widespread issue, affecting millions of children and
teens every year, both in schools and online. The rise
of social media has intensified the problem, allowing bullying to
follow victims and beyond the classroom through cyber bullying. We're
going to be talking about breaking the Bully Cycle, an
UPco event hosted by the Child Guidance Resource Centers as

(03:03):
part of National Bullying Prevention Month. Joining us right now
is Lawana Scale's director of Advocacy for the Child Guidance
Resource Center, and doctor Claudia Cerulo, a nationally recognized expert
on bullying prevention, an educator and author Inside the Mind
of a Bully, From Victim to Advocate. So I want
to thank you both for joining us here today. We're

(03:25):
going to talk about this event, but first talk to you,
doctor Ciullo. You've spent years studying and addressing bullying. What
inspired you to dedicate your life to this work?

Speaker 4 (03:35):
You know sadly, I came to this country in nineteen
seventy six, and I was a victim to bullying simply
because I was an immigrant. And it's interesting that who
would have thought thirty six years later that we would
have this really progressive and pervasive public health issue affecting many, many,
many more immigrants from you know, all over the world

(03:57):
that are subjected simply because of their ethnic city, because
of their race, because of where they're from. And what
inspired me is that I was fine in elementary school.
The trauma really turned more detrimental when I got into
middle school, you know, really looking at sixth grade, and
my parents were really steadfast on me illustrating respect and

(04:21):
providing me enough in terms of clothing and what I
needed the necessities to go to school. The problem is
that I was a really impoverished, you know, young Italian
boy and essentially got to middle school and then all
of a sudden, I was really thrown multitude of ethnic slurs.
I was called the guinea, a dago, and a wop,

(04:42):
and I really didn't even understand what they were because
in the Italian community, in Italian culture, in Italy, they
don't exist. When I would walk down the hallway. It
was simply, hey, Cloud, how did your day go? And
I didn't. I said, oh fine, how were you and
how did day go?

Speaker 5 (04:56):
And mine was fine?

Speaker 4 (04:57):
And I didn't really put two and two together that
until you know some years later that a daego would
be paid during the era of Italian immigration, how you
would be paid if you had a good day. You
had a good day. If you did a bad day,
you would not be paid. So that kind of turned
into real more violence. As I was walking home from
a six block radius, kids decided to throw rocks at

(05:19):
my face and shattered my nose, shattered my front teeth.
I threw my bloody clothes away. Never told my parents
because I know my father it would be worse, and
I just kind of kept it internal, just like many
kids today do, and my nose grew like a big
ski slope. Didn't apply. Ice didn't know much about I
was afraid. I was afraid of retaliation from the home front, really,

(05:42):
and it kind of started the journey on really kind
of saying when I got older that I would you
come up with some plan to really tackle this issue.
Unbeknownst to me that the Internet would grow and here
we are on more of the cyber end of things
that are really taking in live so many in our
country on so many levels which we can get in.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Well, we'll get back to that in just a moment,
but I'd like to check in with Lawana to talk
about the event breaking the Bully Cycle that's happening on Tuesday,
October twenty ninth. Tell us what can people expect when
they attend this event.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
The event will be held at the Kelly Center which
is on for East Eagle Road in Haardtown, Pennsylvania, and
doctor Cirillo will be our keynote speaker, and in addition
to that, we will have a panel that will consist
of experts that include doctor Donna Laundry, who's education and

(06:40):
youth development specialist, Christina Carter, director of Learning Assessment for
Having for Township, Benjamin Hover, whose Legislative representative and director
of Community Engagement for Philadelphia Federation of Teachers, Autumn DeJong
who is a clinician at CDRs, and Maria Separati who

(07:01):
is the music director for Acting Without Boundaries. In addition
to that panel, we will have a performance by Acting
Without Boundaries of their members who are made up of
young adults and youth who have disability challenges of their own.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
This is a free event.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
It will be on Wednesday, the twenty ninth, from six
to eight.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Doctor Cirilo, you wrote a book called Inside the Mind
of a Bully, which explores both the victim and the
aggressor's perspective. What are some of the most common MISK
perceptions people have about bullying.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's really not a major issue, and that most good
old boys will say, let kids fight it out, take
self defense classes. They're not understanding that the roots of
bullying is not a mirror line CNN tag from two
thousand and six. It is deep rooted in the pervasive

(07:58):
issue of mental health thereof and that.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Goes to the surface of P.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Twelve and then the sixteen Council, which includes post secondary
that we're looking at suicide. You know, it used to
be the fourth leading cause. The CDC has now classified
the second leading cause among our teams. And now when
you add the multitude of cyber harassment, which includes deep
fakes and AI, it's affecting not only young people but

(08:28):
certainly adults. And it's adults that prey on anyone that
they feel or a celebrity or a politician if they
feel there's some type of retribution. And if you look
at the issue of bullying from a federal platform or
tax force, it goes into what we've seen in the
last several weeks of political violence, this separation whether you're

(08:51):
a Democrat or Republican or independent and really doesn't matter.
There's this retaliatory side of it that I'm going to
come after.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
You in some way, shape or form.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
So I want to note that when people think just bullying,
it goes into child molestation, elderly victimization, domestic violence. The
criteria I can box it into whatever I want, it's
going to be the same. But most adults say bullying,
they think children, it's not It really rises to a

(09:21):
higher level and it includes adults and obviously even includes
senior population because of victimization. And when I say that,
I'm looking at something as simply social security scams, solid
security disability scams. So when we look at this frequent
duration power base that they can prey on someone, you
really are looking at bullying.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
And it's not just physical.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
It takes on a multitude of a social and emotional
background as well.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Doctor Sivullo, I think that we talk about bullying and
a lot of folks feel really helpless to do anything
about it. And certainly the advent of the Internet and
social media, et cetera, all the things that you mentioned
and have increased the severity of this situation that theolice
have more tools to work with. So what are some

(10:08):
key takeaways that you would suggest for people who are
either experiencing bullying or maybe the parents or trying to
figure out, well, what do I do? Because we see
so many instances of bullying lead to people ending their lives.
What would you say?

Speaker 4 (10:25):
I think the first thing is when there is an
event that's hosted by child Guidance, take advantage of that.
That's first and foremost. They're offering a resource. And interestingly enough,
when I had met my wife years ago, she had
a child on the all pisiness spectrum and she had
come to a workshop I did with children with hidden
disabilities and that are victimized in their district because of bullying,

(10:49):
and she says, I had don't know where to turn,
I have no help, no support. Really, no one focuses
just simply on the issue. But really from an advocacy standpoint,
to address your question, is know that there is some
support number one.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Number two.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
When you have the support, I will take you through
all of the documented stages of that, which is really
the advocacy portion of it, documentation portion of it, understanding
the legislative portion, because in our tri state area here,
Pennsylvania is the only one that doesn't have real hard
legislation onlike New Jersey and unlike Delaware. Even Connecticut has legislation.

(11:27):
So knowing that you have to have some type of
advocacy support from a legislative and who to talk to
and how to file on harassment or an intimidation or
bullying complaint. Really knowing who to speak to from the
child's teacher to the child's administrator, to the school board,
and then looking and working with the law enforcement community

(11:47):
is really essential when understanding victimization and from there. But
what the parents need to know really is the language.
And really the language, and I say this candidly, whether
gang members, organized criminals, teens have their own language, how
they speak to each other on and off the Internet
and on and off cyber realms and platforms. They do

(12:08):
that intentionally so that educators and those in mental health
don't understand what they're really communicating about, and certainly the
parent at home that's got a little naivete that says,
I have no idea speak English because I don't know
what you're saying. Well, Mom, Dad, I'm doing that on
purpose because I don't really want you to know what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Right, Lawana. Just to remind us, if people would like
to know more about this event that's happening Breaking the
Bully Cycle sponsored by the Child Guidance Resource Centers, how
do they register and give us all those details.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
On our website at www dot CGRC dot org and
click on Compassion and Action that's the tab on our
website and will lead you right to the event.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
That event is happening Wednesday, October twenty ninth from sixty
eight pm at the Kelly Center Hardtown Music are and
Community Center on for East Eagle Road. Have yourtown is
that right? Okay? Good? Got that right? Lewana Scales, thank
you so much for joining us here. She is Director
of Advocacy for the Child Guidance Resource Center and the

(13:14):
keynote speaker for this event. Doctor Claudio Cirrulo, who has
written a book called Inside the Mind of a Bully
from victim to advocate, a great book to check out
to get inside the issue of bullying and perhaps come
up with some solutions and strategies for overcoming it. Thank
you both for joining us today. So once a month,

(13:38):
every month we have the fabulous Angela Giampolo. She is
with Gimpolo Law. She comes in once a month to
for a feature we call speak Out where we talk
about issues related to the LGBTQI plus community, but also
how they these issues relate to all of us because
we are all in it together. Angela, It's always great

(13:59):
to see. So tell us what are some of the
top issues that you would like to talk about today.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
Yeah, So last week, the Supreme Court is back in
session after taking their summer break, and they hit the
ground running with LGBTQ issues right off the bat, and
one of their first oral arguments is in a case
called Child's v.

Speaker 7 (14:21):
Salazar, where they are.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
Looking at the constitutionality of the difference between protected speech
and protected professional conduct. Now that sounds vague, but the
ultimate impact of that decision will.

Speaker 7 (14:39):
Be whether or not bans on.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
Conversion therapy for LGBTQ minors will be repealed. Over twenty states,
including New Jersey right here. This case is out of Colorado,
but over twenty states have some sort of ban on
conversion therapy for miners. And so there's this therapist, Kaylie
Childs out in colorad Ato who has said that her

(15:03):
talk therapy her you know, in her speech and her
talk therapy with minors, that which is conversion therapy in
her opinion, but it's speech she's speaking to them, and
so that these bands on conversion therapy are ultimately restricting
her freedom of speech, regardless of whether or not they

(15:24):
like what she's speaking.

Speaker 7 (15:25):
About or the impact on the youth.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
That she has the the right to protected speech.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
So Colorado is.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Saying, I was just going to say, for those who
don't know what conversion therapy is, tell us what that is.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
Yeah, So it's a debunked means of you know, some
would say pray away the gay, but others would say,
as far as a therapeutic practice working with minors or
LGBTQ folks, even adults have gone through conversion therapy, but
to convert them, to use therapeutic practices to convert them

(16:01):
from their supposed homosexuality, backed to convert them back to
the way they should be which is heterosexual. And so
there are and there are many methods and a lot
of them entail camps of places where kids would be
sent away because this takes time and their opinion, and

(16:23):
so a lot of folks view this case as even
because kids ultimately don't have the ability to consent to
set therapy. If you are an adult and you go
into therapy and you presented yourself and are availing yourself
to the therapeutic modality of conversion therapy, then you did
that as an adult. But these kids are not consenting

(16:45):
to it. The parents are right, and so that is
ultimately the harm to the LGBTQ community, the minors, you know,
irregardless of whether or not Kiley Childs's speech is protected.
To me, where the rubber meets the is the child
did not consent to subject themselves to what Childs has

(17:05):
to say about.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
Them, right, right, so, but so the oral arguments took
place on October seventh.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
The Alliance Defending Freedom is the entity that's representing her,
and they are responsible for the wedding cake case, the
case that said the web designer didn't have to make
a website for an LGBTQ wedding ultimately the beginning of
folks being able to say, I don't want to work

(17:33):
in commerce with LGBTQ folks, and the wedding cake case
was I don't want to have to sell my goods
to LGBTQ folks, and so they and they are also
responsible for the Dobbs decision which took down RuView Wade right,
And so that's who's defending Childs. And then throughout the
oral arguments. All we can really assess at this point
is questions that were asked and how they were asked,

(17:55):
and so all the Conservative justices asked questions that really
show that the Supreme Court is poised to view this
as protected speech and that ultimately, you know, the statute
on its face is restricting Child's's speech and it is right.

(18:16):
And so one of I mean it truly is it's
saying that she can't speak to miners about conversion therapy
and the words that are coming out of her mouth
if she views it to be conversion therapy, that she
should not be able to subject miners to that. So
what I see happening is that the court Supreme Court
will find the statute unconstitutional in its face, that it

(18:39):
is in fact banning Childs's ability to speak, and will
send it back to the state of Colorado and say,
if you want to protect LGBTQ minors, you have to
go about it enact other laws in order.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
To do so.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
But you can't say that she can't speak these words.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
So I wonder just to clarify for me, just as
a non legal expert here, when we're talking about speech
and therapy, it strikes me that there has to be
some distinction. Because a therapist uses techniques, it's not really
speech per se, it's counseling, it's therapy. How do you

(19:19):
define that as connected with First Amendment rights? I'm just
because you know, you could have a therapist who says, well,
I believe that you are a dog hater, So let
me accounsel you a Chihuahua dogte an old Chihaha dog hater,
and let me just do something to show you that

(19:41):
that's not, you know, let's cure you of that.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
What you're alluding to is the professional conduct underlying and
embedded in the speech right. So a counselor could they
carry malpractice liability because the things that come out of
their mouth could in fact injure or wound someone, right,
And so that is Colorado's The crux of their argument

(20:08):
is that conversion therapy injures and wounds LGBTQ youth, and
that it's more protecting the professional conduct, that that conduct
of performing that type of therapy is harmful and we
don't allow that conduct. And she's going further down and saying,

(20:28):
but in doing that conduct, you're restricting and preventing me
from conducting conversion therapy. You are inhibiting and restricting my speech.
And so then we have to look at exactly how
the statute is written. So we have Justice Alito, I
don't understand how you can square talking to Colorado, how

(20:49):
you square your interpretation with the playing meaning of the statute.
So Colorado kept saying, this law only regulates treatment conduct,
not speech. And Alito read this statute to say that
it bans practice or treatment that seeks to change sexual orientation.
He kept saying, that's talk, right, And so how this
hurts Colorado. The plain words of the statue cover her speech,

(21:12):
and he just said, and he kept saying, how can
you pretend it does not cover her speech? Justice Thomas Colorado,
what exactly transforms speech protected or otherwise to speech that
is not in the therapist's context. Where does that convert Colorado? Right?
And so Thomas is skeptical that speech magically loses his

(21:32):
First Amendment protection just because it happens within the four
walls of therapy.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
What's the oman argument then, for some of the other
justices who may not agree with that the harm.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
To children that a government has, that it's there to
protect its people and especially minors, the most vulnerable, and
that that is what the law is attempting.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
To again protect that.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
You know, over three one hundred psychiatric and psychological professional
associations have all declared that conversion therapy is a harmful
practice and that it's banning that practice. And as a result,
that means you can't say certain things, but that the
overarching intent which the government has to show its intent,

(22:20):
that the overarching intent is to protect LGBTQ minors from
this harmful therapeutic practice.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Right. And just to dig down into what we know
about conversion therapy, what does a science say about conversions therapy?

Speaker 6 (22:36):
It has shown for over fifty years. I mean there
are even when I was doing research, there are over
one thousand Republican led and conservative institutions that also agree
that conversion therapy is harmful and a defunct, that it's
not in fact a scientific practice whatsoever, and that it
has zero benefits to it, only harmful results. Increased suicide rates,

(23:01):
increased anxiety depression. We're talking on the suicide components because
LGBTQ youth already have experienced three times the amount of
suicidal attempts. Then there are straight counterparts, but if a
child has gone through conversion therapy, then that increases over
four times. I mean, just the impact and the long

(23:24):
lasting impacts to youth who have gone through conversion therapy
long into their adulthood, and how they're still dealing with
the self loathing and just the impact of having gone
through the experience of conversion therapy and everything that means
just at its very core, it is telling this child

(23:45):
that something happened to you that changed you into something
you shouldn't.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
Be, and we're here to convert you back.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
On a very very macro level, that's basically what a
child is getting in their most vulnerable, malleable stages. So again,
you know, to your point about how this show, you know,
really impacts the topics that we speak about in some way,
shape or form, touches everyone because everyone that has a
child or interacts with a child knows how vulnerable they

(24:13):
are and that you always want to, you know, do
what you can to support and encourage and set them
up for success. And this is one way in which
the LGBTQ community, in the youth of the LGBTQ community,
are extremely harmed.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah. So in terms of the status of this particular situation,
where are we at timeline wise? Yep?

Speaker 6 (24:38):
The Supreme Court will issue an opinion in June twenty
twenty six of Pride Month.

Speaker 7 (24:43):
Because they love doing that.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Wow. Oh that's deep.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
They've already they've already announced its good Laura La in
October seventh that the opinion will be issued June of
twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Six, Pride Month. Wow, that is ironic. Tell us about
Caravan of Hope? Is that moving a forward?

Speaker 7 (25:03):
Yeah? So Caravan of Vote. Not sure what month we're
going to do it at this point.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
I got massive donation from actually a client locally here
in New Jersey. She has this amazing thirty two foot
souped up RV that she's donating to the Caravan of Vote.
And so she's going to let us know exactly what
month that she has it available for us. But so
I'll announced the exact month as soon as I am able.

(25:28):
But the Caravan of Hope is a nonprofit that I
started where I take exactly what it sounds like, a
caravan cross country five thousand miles fourteen cities, providing pro
bono legal services to the LGBTQ community, but specifically in
rural and underserved areas where LGBTQ folks may not have
access to competent LGBTQ legal council.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, and I just wanted to give a quick shout
out to the AIDE Walk because on the day that
this is airing, actually it's the be the nineteenth would
have been the date in which the AIDS Walk would
have occurred. Well that's no longer, and it's going to
be a celebration of the many decades of the AIDS

(26:11):
Walk and the AIDS Fund. It's a bittersweet because we
have made such tremendous progress when it comes to HIV
and AIDS, but there certainly is a lot more to
move forward. There's a lot of reasons why they're ending it,
including the cost of it and the dwindling interest in
coming out for this particular event. I don't think I

(26:32):
missed one. I think I've been to every single one
that there has been, So I'm looking forward to participating.
Although HIV and AIDS it's not an LGBTQ plus issue specifically,
it is something that impacts everybody. Certainly, the community was
at the forefront of raising awareness and pushing for better treatments,

(26:55):
an end to the stigma, and the activism has been
responsible for so much of the progress that has been
made towards ending this epidemic. And I just wanted to
shout out Rob Reichert, who was the executive director of
the AIDS Fund, and all the incredible volunteers and all
the people out there who made that happen and did

(27:17):
so much to help those living with HIV and AIDS.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
Absolutely, I mean we're seeing that happen in many segments
across the LGBTQ community. Pampa's pride for twenty twenty six,
they've already canceled it. They're not going to have a
pride at Tampa, I mean, large city, but and they
pointed directly to lack of funding, corporate sponsors pulling out,
who have been sponsoring for years. Same thing with AIDS

(27:43):
fund and government grants that they've been getting for years
that they just literally can't function without DEI I do.

Speaker 7 (27:52):
For years.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
I've spoken to companies for their urge their employee resource
group on LGBTQ issues, and they always had a speaker
fee and now they have zero budget, and they would think,
and I'm just doing it for free. I'll do a
complimentary If you're a company out there and you want
me to speak to your group, I will absolutely do it,
because they are literally banking on the fact that the

(28:14):
speakers will then no longer speak and so then the
programming will die, right, So I'm absolutely now speaking even
more than I did before, purposefully of course.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
But yeah, it's really it's sad.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
I'm glad they're still doing something today, and that's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, at the William Way Center. So I'm looking forward
to that. And if people want to get in touch
with you, because you've got so much great information and
resources for people who are looking to make sure their
wills and all of the things legal are in place,
tell us how to get in touch with you.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
Absolutely, you can find me on Instagram.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
A lot of my content I post there as your
gay Lawyer, and my website is Jampullo dot com and
you can directly Paul the Office two one five six
four five twenty four fifteen.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yes, and we're also looking forward to your podcast, which
is coming soon to a podcast platform near you. You'll
be co hosting with former Mayor Jim Kenny, and it's
called Table in the Back. Table in the Back, Yes, where.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
We interview well known Philadelphians like yourself at restaurants. Table
in the Back. It's super fun, we joke. It's where
Philly's stories are served. Will so real conversation, real talk,
no filter. Former Mayor Jim Kenny just being extremely open
and hopeful about all the things, as well as our guests.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah. I was very delighted to be a guest on
that segment and really quite touched by the mayor and
just how open and vulnerable he is and was, and
and you know, I think when we look at look
back and history, I think we'll look upon his two
terms and there are you know, certainly some folks who

(30:06):
had some criticisms, but there's a lot of things that
he did that were truly extraordinary and very progressive. And
shout out to Mary Jim Kenny and looking forward to
seeing that podcast up and running. So thank you so much,
Angelo Giapolo.

Speaker 7 (30:20):
Thank you Irena.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
As always, you can listen to all of today's interviews
by going to our station website and typing in Keyword Community.
You can also listen on the iHeartRadio app Keywords Philadelphia
Community Podcast. Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Lorraine Ballard.
I'm Lorraine Ballard MOREL and I stand for service to
our community and media that empowers. What will you stand for?

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You've been listening to what's going on?

Speaker 4 (30:44):
ED.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Thank you