Swing It & Ding It: Episode 231

Joined by Trevor Bensel– PGA Pro from Lulu CC and recent winner of the Haverford Phil PGA Classic. Scotty wins again at Jack’s Place. The Tea with D, Preview of The RBC Canadian Open, Harry’s Florida Swing, See The Line with Bet Parx and the Course of Course with Harry Mayes.

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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Just got to get out there and swing and ding it.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, you know, just guess it's gonna go out there
and try to swing it and ding it.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
That's right, Welcome in to swing it and ding it.
And iHeartMedia podcast. This is Moose along with May's and
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of course that Parks. We'll talk about that Parks when

(00:54):
we see the line for the RBC Canadian Open. But
when we open this, the great Michael Collins talking about
it's a Philly show, right, and it is and we
love Philly goff. You could see by my subtle little
hat here Philly Golf and we keep it in Philly
tonight with with Trevor Benzel, PGA pro from the Great
Lulu Country Club are one of our favorite places in

(01:16):
the world, assistant and teaching pro there and most recently,
the winner of the twenty seventh annual Haverford Philadelphia PGA Classic. Trevor,
welcome to swing it and ding it.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Thank you guys, thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Absolutely absolutely so let's start there right. Incredible, incredible performance,
the largest first place prize of any of any of
the PGA's forty one sections. Talk about that event and
the you know you've played in a lot of big events,
but what was that one like for you? Did it
feel any different?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Man, this is I think this was my ninth or
tenth year playing in it. Obviously, always on my radar
every year as everyone else. I came closed a couple
of times, lost in a playoff a couple of years ago.
First place was one hundred grand. Then I think it
was five years ago. I think I made twelve hundred bucks,

(02:15):
so that kind of took me a while to get over.
But yeah, I just just went out and played, had
a good front nine. I think I was at four under.
I hit like a foot on nine to get the
five under and I birdied ten. I'm like, all right, like,
this is my tournament to win. You know, I'm in control.

(02:39):
I know what I have to beat. So just to
kind of hold on and close it off down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
It was. It was awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Now one hundred thousand dollars we rewinded a year ago.
We host Anita Invitational tournament that donates a lot of
money to children's hospital. And what people sometimes often don't
realize is that we promote, you know, the future of
golf and we also offer a pro person. You took
home fifty thousand there, so talk about the impact of
you just kind of standing here stack in cash, and

(03:08):
how to support to your career and you know what
you're doing with it and how it's changed your life.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, I mean, well, I'm a club pro. Like, we
don't make a lot of money. To be honest, if
I wasn't, you know, decent at golf, like making money
playing golf, I probably wouldn't be in the business. But no,
it's been it's been great. I've been fortunate to win
a couple events with big purses and I'm not gonna

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not gonna squander it. I'm not gonna take it for granted,
it's could be once in a lifetime opportunity. So I'm
gonna be spar with my money and not gonna blow it.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
That's not a normal comment from mostcovery.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Can you dispel the rumor that you had to buy
a pack of Salon Pause for John Rusk after that
win at the NEPA because of his back pain.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I can't confirm Nord.

Speaker 7 (04:05):
Salon Pause.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Come on, Danielle, it's great icy hot.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
I was like, I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
He's on the I R right now, so who knows.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Breaking news?

Speaker 6 (04:20):
Yeah, I heard it here first.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, now you're you're kind of a recent edition over
at Lulu, are you not?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, just within the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's funny. I was kind of between jobs.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
I worked out in Florida at Seminole, been caddying there
for like four years, and I had a good winner,
was happy making money. I was playing a lot and
I was like, whyt I just do this up north.
So I ran into the caddy Master of Pine Valley
down there. I'm like, hey, you gotta you get spot
up there for me, and he's like, yeah, absolutely. So

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my original plan was to just kind of caddy all
summer and teach a little bit in the side, and
then you know, an opportunity popped up at Lulu and
Rusk is like, yeah, happy to have you, so kind
of gave me a place to hang my hat, teach
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
So that just all happen in the last couple of.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Weeks, get win, not terrible, and then and then you
get the win. It's like Lulu Lulu just it is
a winning place, right, It's it's a place for winners.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
That's the other funny part too, is because you know,
I was between jobs, I was like, it's so much
indecision on kind of what to do. Technically, I've kind
of been homeless for the list like months, so just
kind of been bouncing around, stand at a friend's house.
And then you know, I go out and win one
hundred grand, so now I can find a place.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
To live in the studio apartment. Right.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I mean, you see I'm in a hotel right now. Right.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
I was gonna ask because we know that you were
just up in New Jersey at Canoe Brook final stage
trying to qualify for US Open. So talk about your
your current game right now, and obviously being in this
new position at Lulu, But talk about still pursuing, you know,
trying to play some golf.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, I felt like I've been playing pretty good so
far this spring summer.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Obviously he didn't have my best yesterday.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
It's sectionals, but just having like the opportunity to go
out and compete against those guys and see how my
game stacks up, it shows me like how much I
actually have to keep practicing and getting better. Like it's
you know, that level, it's not you're not playing against
club pros. You know, you're playing against some of the
best players in the world. So I got a lot
of work to do. But I'm definitely going to keep

(06:35):
pursuing it. And I think winning the Haverford kind of
extended a couple of years for me, having that dream
to maybe get to the next level.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
So and will you be defending your title at an invitation?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I did sign up, Yes, the team. I hope he
can join me.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
We need to get him that Ben Gay or Icy
Hot or whatever.

Speaker 7 (07:00):
Salon Pause, we need a sponsor.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I know Powers is listening. He'll be on the phone
with Salon Pause in five minutes.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Oh yeah, Yeah, there's no doubt about it. So so
you know with that, right, have you kind of plotted
out what that looks like for you? Right? Have you
circled the calendar? You know, we talked about the NEPA,
right you signed up already, But how does that? How
does that work in your mind?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Right?

Speaker 4 (07:19):
When that clicks in and you get that win, right,
you're you're you're right now right then you're in the
moment and then you're like, all right, I'm gonna I'm
gonna take a take a shot now here for a
little while, Like, how does that? How does that change
how you approach your day to day, your practice, how
you plot out the calendar year? Now?

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, I mean having this job at Lulu is actually
it's different than anything I've ever kind of done in
the last ten years. I've always been an assistant, worked
forty fifty sixty hours a week. Your practice is not
you know, you know, have much time to practice. If anything,
you'll go out and play nine holes, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
After your shift.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
But being able to teach kind of nick my own
schedule more free time. So I'll definitely be taking advantage
of that and just you know, hanging out at Lulu
if I'm not teaching I'll be playing or playing with members, practicing,
but definitely going to focus on my game a lot
more this summer and hopefully get in shape for the fall.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Will you come down here then in the winter when
when Lulu closes, come back to lup at Samo.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, I'll be back to Seminole in November.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, it's all about that, that loop and at Seminole
has you know, as caddying at a place like that,
has that taught you anything about you know that you
can sort of transfer to your game, like when you're playing.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
In terms of what what do you what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, I mean, I don't know, it's just sort of
you know, players play exactly. That's That's what I'm That's
where I'm getting at.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, for sure, you know, I meet a lot of
cool people at Seminole, people you otherwise probably never meet
in your life, right CEOs, the tour players and everything
in between. Seeing a lot of good golf firsthand, caddy
for a bunch of tour guys, and you know, it's
it's easy to say that their game is not that

(09:11):
much different, but you know the biggest difference is, you know,
kind of your perseverance and how much you're willing to
put into it and how much you're willing to deal
with until you succeed.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I caddied for like a couple of guys. I think
Keigan Bradley.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Said it was he went to Q school like ten
times or something ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
One of these.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Guys they said they went ten times and they finally
broke through and they've had like amazing career ever since.
So here's something like I don't I don't want to
go to Q school ten times and they're twice.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
So have you saying that that you don't want to
go to Q school ten times or you know, hearing
stories like that? Is there something that you've set in
your mind, like, hey, when I reach age whatever or
after I go to Q school X amount of times,
is there a time that you're going to fully make
the transition coaching or.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Have you not earl I'm like probably the most uh
spontaneous person like go out like how I feel is
just how I'm gonna go with it. So I think
I'll be able to tell, you know, if I if
I'm close this year, maybe I'll give another run. If
I'm you know, maybe I'm just burnt out. Who knows,

(10:22):
but it's hard to put a timeline on something.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
Like that for sure, for sure, and how you're feeling
and in the moment.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah, So now that you're you're teaching, what would you
say you're or you know, you probably have been for
for some time, But what's your style? Like if someone describes,
like what type of what type of golf teacher?

Speaker 7 (10:42):
Are you?

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Right? I know it's sometimes tough when you're competitive and
you're playing. It's like trying not to think about yourself
in the person you're teaching. What would you say your
style is?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'm very so I'm like a field player, not technical
at all. I take like a very simple approach to
teaching and try and make it as simple as possible
for the player to understand. I think unless I'm teaching
a complete beginner, everyone kind of has their own natural
swing and unless you're willing to rebuild your swing and

(11:14):
commit to it for a season or two, like I
don't like to start at step one, So I'll just
take someone's natural swing and we'll start from the fundamentals.
Basically a lot of pre shot stuff, grip, set up, alignment,
because a lot of times that's all someone could be
lined up differently from where they think they're lined up,
and that's throwing off the rest of their swing.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
So I just actually just gave a lesson today to
a guy.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
He's in his seventies, but he was he's won a
bunch of stuff in the gap region being a good
player's whole life. And he was like, so off, he's
like toe shanking his irons, Like, these are just shots
that you don't normally see this guy hit.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
So right, I'll take a look. And by the way,
with his fourth lesson of life that he's ever taken.
So I'm like, god, me, Like, so I did the
same thing, though, were the first three.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
With Mikenda's that as it.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Were the first three with Mike Dinda.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
Wow, that's sure, but that's a low blow.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, So I did the same thing.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
He just kind of got his swing on film and like,
where do you think you're aims? You know, I'm I'm
aimed here. I'm like, well, you're you're literally forty yards
right where you think you're aimed.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
So the reason you're booking is you're doing this then
and the other thing.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
And so anyway, by the end of the hour, he
was back to like striping it picked up twenty yards
with a seven iron, like it's dispersion tightened up. So
it's just like I like teaching better players because they
understand it more versus a beginner. I mean, there's so
many different things you can talk about. It's it's kind
of hard to hone in on one thing. But yeah,

(12:52):
that's that's my style. I'm very simple and I like
to try and have the student understand, you know, give
him one or two swing thoughts, and hopefully they're hitting
it better by the end of the lesson.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Well, I would say, if I call you, just don't answer.
That's probably your bestie my number NA. Sorry, dude, I
don't know.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
His first advice would say take the hot off because
it's probably the distribution.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, I think you've given some lessons to one of
my buddies, Matt Parker. Uh, who's who's over hour now too?
And while you were at Sandy Run. But I got
a question for you, because you're from my neck to
Woods and you're from up around Lancaster County and Berk's County.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
Come together at a place near Cacalico.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Which I think is where you grew up. And I'm
right across the mountain from there. So explain your golf journey.
When did you get involved in the game, how early?

Speaker 7 (13:47):
You know who was your influence?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Was it your dad and your uncle or you know,
how did you get involved in the game of golf,
you know, coming from suburban Lancaster County.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, so, uh, I always do.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Like I grew up a skateboarder, playing soccer and baseball.
My brother skateboarded. Always wanted to be with him, you know,
take after him, So skateboard it up until basically freshman
year of high school. Like for birthdays and stuff. We
used to go to the driving range play mini golf.
But I didn't get my first set of clubs till
freshman year of high school. And it was actually at

(14:22):
that time I was with my brother. We were skating
with his friends. They were filming like going pro. I'm
just hanging out. Long story short. We all get like
arrested for trespassing kind of wrong place, wrong time. So
I'm in huh a lot of skateboarding, yes, So anyway,
we instead of paint a fine, we did community service.

(14:45):
My first day community service was at the high school
and I had to wash the windows.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
To the front end.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
So as soon as the bell rings, I'm out there
watching the windows. You know, all his friends, all my
friends are leaving, like Trevor, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Windows?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
So anyway, that was like a week up moment for me, like, hey,
I'm not going pro skateboarding, Like, let me try this
golf thing. So went out for the golf team freshman
year of high school with my skater friends.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
We all shot in hundreds.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
But if you went off to the team, you got
a free membership at Fox Chase. So basically all summer,
you know, I was there after school, before school, playing
and practicing, you know, the whole deal, Like you're there
for thirty six holes, you hit balls, you have lunch,
you do the same thing over and over again. Started
working there, and that's just kind of how I fell

(15:36):
in love with the game. Just kept me out of trouble.
It gave me something to work towards, and I fell
in love with kind of seeing the improvements week after
week and seeing the scores get better and hit better shots.
So fast forward senior year. I got pretty good by
senior year, but it was too late to get kind

(15:58):
of college scholarship offers. I hated school and I didn't
want to go into debt, so I was all set
up to play D two golf at Millersville. I found
out about this golf management program, so I enrolled online.
I knew you could do all the schoolwork online as
long as you were working full time at a in

(16:19):
a golf shop. So, you know, I think it was
two days before freshman year orientation. I decided to bag
it and go this route with golf and kind of
never looked back. So started working right away, kept playing,
started playing section events, meeting other guys in the section,
other pros, and yeah, that's kind of been. I've been

(16:43):
doing that for the last ten years, just trying to
get better each year. I've met so many people, you know,
through golf that, like I said, I'd.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Otherwise never meet.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I traveled all over the country, out of the you know,
out of the country.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's been. It's been a crazy journey, but I probably
wouldn't change anything.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I could just see right now, you win the PGA Championship.
You have the mug shots of Tiger and Scottie and
John Daly and Trevor Benzel right there right escaping right there,
right in front of us. Yeah, beautiful thing.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
That's wowd but great that it happened because look at
the path that it took you on.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
What a cool story.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
Well, obviously we're always rooting for you, but really podcast,
as you know, let's take it back to the roots.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
We always ask this question.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Your number one golf course in the Philadelphia area.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
It's gotta be maryon East.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I played it, played probably five years ago, and then
I just played it. I actually played the day before
the Haverford and played with a good friend Brad McFadden.
He had me out there and yeah, Mary and East
is just awesome. There's such a good mix of short
par fours, long par four's. Part threes are awesome. But

(17:57):
you still gotta place your ball in the fairway. I mean,
the roff is nasty, the green complexes, it's it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I would play that every day.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Give us one that that you that people wouldn't say,
you know, first, second, third, fourth, give us give us
one down the line a little bit.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Gotta go to Lulu. I agree, Donald Ross, it's great.
It's diabolical on the greens like it's it's a good
test when the greens are running and and the rough
is up. It's it's fun.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Harry would agree with you.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
Yeah, good stuff, right, appreciate the time.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, congratulations man, thanks for coming on. Well, we'll be
checking it out. I need to get out to Lulu
again soon. It's been it's been a minute. Uh, definitely
got to get out there. Always enjoy myself when I'm
when I'm there. One of the greatest memberships in the area,
hands down, no doubt about it. The guys are great
over there, So uh, continued success to you, and uh
we'll be we'll be checking out and obviously we'll see

(19:01):
you in person up with in Scranton late summer, early fall.
So thanks for thanks for coming on.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, thank you guys.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
You got it all right, Let's take a quick break
and we will be right back and welcome back to
swing It and dan It. Thanks again to uh Trevor
Benzel for coming on Lulu Country Club. That's a great
move from him to write, like, you know, of all
the places to come back to, he had some options,
but yeah, I don't know that place, just that they

(19:30):
are a very competitive group of people and teachers and coach.
I think they push each other there, and uh, good
for him.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, he was over at Sandy Run for a while teaching,
and I think he was involved with Clubhouse fifty four
for a short bit. But now at at Lulu and
you know, you go to Lulu and he wins a
big tournament, it's crazy, unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
So speaking of winning a big tournament, just like anything,
you know, just like a normal week, speak almost kills
and Scotty wins, right, And I tweeted this, I said,
Scheffler just smothers you with consistency, right. He just there's
sometimes in these realms where you look at him, it's
like par par par and it's like everyone else is

(20:13):
going up down and this guy is just so level.
We're witnessing something pretty special here. And I think it's
evident when when you're listening to Jack Nicholas right talk
about it, and you're really starting to put it in perspective,
and you know you're seeing the age of which this
guy has is starting to get these wins. Because it's
so hard to compare anyone to Tiger, right. I didn't

(20:34):
I didn't get to see Jack, but it's it's so
hard because it's ridiculous. But when you when you see
some of these stats about you know, pretty close to
the number of wins at his age. It especially because
the guy has a wild movement in his swing too, right,
so you're always kind of captivated watching him. But once
the swing is is through, he don't give you much, right,

(20:57):
He's not flashy, He's not making these crazy shots to
get back. He just smothers you with consistency. So incredible performance,
Harry once again from Scotty Scheffler.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, I mean a sixteenth win on tour. It's back
to back Memorials. It's his third win of twenty twenty five.
And it wasn't too long ago when we were like, hey,
when's Scotty gonna win, you know, because he had come
back from that injury and he was close, but he
wasn't knocking it down. And now all of a sudden,
he's got three and you know, we're we're looking at
the US Open here in two weeks.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
But it's he.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Also has won back to back Players Championships and he
won back to back Phoenix Open, so you know, I mean,
he finds place. It's sort of like Tiger. Now, like
Tiger had places where he would win and he would
win a lot. Now we'll see if you know, his
years go by.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
You know, does Scotty, you know, pile.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Up five memorials, does he you know, does he win
a couple of players, more players championships, more Bayhill? He's
won twice at bay Hill, but it wasn't back to back,
but there were certain courses that Tiger just dominated at
and you know, we're starting to see the beginning stages.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
Of that with Scotty Scheffler. We'll see if it continues.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
But yeah, you talk about all the pars Colt ghost
on the broadcast got crucified by some people that I
know and just regular people that probably I don't know,
because he said he plays boring golf, and it is
boring golf because he's not Phil Nicholson. He's not Tiger
Woods in this fact that he would, you know, maybe

(22:25):
blow one twenty yards, you know, left of the fairway
and then come up with some miraculous iron shot and
put it to ten feet. That's not really what he does.
He's fairways and greens, and you know, he birdies the
par fives because you're supposed to birdie the par fives,
and that's how he wins. And he had four birdies
in the last five holes on Saturday after all pars,

(22:47):
and it was like everybody else Ben Griffin and a
couple of guys making bogies, making birdies, making bogies, and
everybody's sort of staying around, and Scotty was just right
there with all pars and then goes birdie, birdie, birdie,
par birdie to finish and birdieing eighteen is hard to do.

Speaker 7 (23:03):
That's a really hard hole.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
And that's really what put him in the in the
you know, you know, gave him the championship to lose
the closing stretch sixteen, seventeen and eighteen, he was three
under par all week with no bogies. He was eight
under par on the par fives. He had four bogies
in a double the entire week.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
And then after that double boge, which was on ten,
he went birdie birdie right after it. He always seems
to like answer a bogey with a birdie, Like that's
what this guy does. Like we're starting to see how
he plays golf, and it's amazing to really watch. It
might not be dazzling, it might not be you know,
highlight real stuff, but when you start to see just

(23:45):
the way he takes a part of golf course and
his philosophy, the way he he has a game plan
and he just executes it. He and his caddie are
terrific at it. It's really something to.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Watch and they get the job done.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Most You mentioned Jack Jack say, you know, commenting on him,
and he said, Ben Griffin's a nice player. Stepstraca is
a nice player. Nick Taylor is a nice player. But
Scotty knows those guys aren't in his league. And then
he started talking about a conversation he had with Scotty
where he said, you know, do you watch the later
board and Scott He's like, well, yeah, of course I do.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
And he went on to explain a little bit further.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
I see who is up there to see how I
have to tailor my game, how hard I have to go?

Speaker 6 (24:23):
Do I need to like really step on the gas or.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Do I just have to kind of which is funny,
Like we've seen that, you know, a couple of tournaments ago.
He's like, I'm not gonna win this one, Like let's
just hit the center of the grave and get out
of here. Like knowing his the level of golf he
plays and just how he has to be strategic leads.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Spith had some great comments when he just left about
he is meticulous in his club face club face impact.
He said, he's he's never seen someone that is so
hyper focused on that, and I mean that's what you see, right.
He doesn't miss fair ways, he doesn't. He doesn't make
bracular shots because he's never out of place. He said,
he is just a machine with getting that club face

(25:01):
on the golf ball.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Imagine if that can be your only swing thought? Is
just being that meticulous with just have the ball hit
the center of the club face. If that's it, Like,
can you win three times in a month? Let's go.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
It starts with how meticulous he is with the grip.
You see, how like he is just he's mister grip Like.
He's constantly focused on him having the right grip, which
and then enables him to control the club face. Yeah,
there's a lot of amateurs can learn by what he does.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
There really is.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
There's not a lot of razzle dazzle, not a lot
of highlights kind of stuff, but what he does and
the way he approaches it. He's focused on the grip
and that enables him to control the face.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Do you try to replicate that grip.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
How do you watch It's amazing.

Speaker 7 (25:44):
No, I can't, I can't. I can't do that.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
I got nothing now. The other the other story is
a guy that's playing lights out and it's it's tough,
and you have someone like Scotti Shaffler that's just so dominant,
but Ben Griffin just playing incredible golf. He shoots up
the the US team rankings for the Ryder Cup, sitting
right in that, you know, right outside of the automatic bids,
but you know, just incredible performance. And they got into

(26:08):
it a little bit with the with the glasses, right,
the aviators that he wears, he talks about why right
he needs them. He has these floaters that like he
thought he was going to be having surgery and or
I think he did have surgery and then you know,
I thought he was gonna be affected by it permanently.
So a guy that's super easy to root for, you know,
really likable guy. When he's on he's he's playing really

(26:30):
good golf. So it's cool to see his story. It's
always hard when you have Scotty just dominating, but to
see a story like like Ben Griffin is cool. And
I know, Danielle, you know his game and and you
know know him pretty well.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah, I've seen his career developed from I guess it
was like Latin all the way.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
You know.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Then he won the neap Invitational, him and Brandon I
saw both, you know, in the same rookie class on tour.
So just watching him come up and you know, get
his furt well he had, you know as Zurich, and
then getting his official solo win on the PGA Tour
and then intending last week, it's been awesome, Like you said,
easy guy to root for. He shared a story of
how you know, his family was hit really hard by

(27:08):
the pandemic the recession, lost their house and everything else.
To have him humanize and share his story and how
we all know how he quit golf.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
For a little bit, was working in insurance and everything else.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
So I think, you know, trying to work that normal
nine to five grind and then say wait a second,
let's get this out of here. I think Lord Abbott said,
let's sponsor, you give you that money, got him back
out there, and it's just.

Speaker 6 (27:30):
Been cool to see him rise. The success he's having.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Very cool, very cool and you know something other, you know,
to finish it, to finish off the Memorial had Sepstraka again,
you know, in third place, right, he's playing incredible golf.
Nick Taylor who had some struggles coming down the stretch there,
and fourth Russell Henley who kind of like he pops
up with flashes, and then he's learning Maverick McNeely. He's
another guy who's playing really good golf. And then Ricky
Fowler gets in at T seven, gets himself into the

(27:56):
Open Championship and with Tom Hogy right there behind him,
these to the board. Well yeah, ye would you think about, uh,
the the the golf course and how it played this
this year here.

Speaker 7 (28:11):
Well, it's always really difficult.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I mean Jack Jack wants it that way that you know,
it's Kentucky bluegrass rough. You know, he likes you know,
he likes you know, tighter fairways, longer rough. He he
wants it to be a really good test and it
always is. It's it's a terrific uh place, you know.
And the players, you know, I think they love going there.
They know it's a real challenge and and that's the

(28:34):
way Jack wants it.

Speaker 7 (28:35):
And the weather really helped out too.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I mean the rain, they got so much rain and
it made that that wet. That that rough really lush
and wet, and that's really it's really hard to play
from if you if you missed the fairways, you got penalized.
It's amazing what what it does to these guys who
are the best in the world at it when you
give them some four inch rough and it's wet, and

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you know, you got really tough greens.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
And they're not huge greens.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
They're like, I think five thousand square feet, which is
kind of middle of the road for what they typically play,
but they're they're smallest for most of the PGA tour venues,
and they got a lot of undulation, and you know,
he sticks the pins in really difficult spots and uh,
you know, there's water hazards all over the place, and
it's a really hard track and uh, you know, I

(29:22):
think mother nature made it even harder. But he saw
some really high scores. I mean, you know, really good
players shooting really high scores.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, no doubt about it, all right.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Wellthy yeah, tough, tough.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
He loves that place too.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
It is hard, all right. Let's uh, let's spill some
tea sponsored by our friends that wear SPF Danielle.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Yeah, Well, We've been talking about Scotty for probably eighty
percent of the show, so let's just stay on that.
Cautting for number one in the world isn't bad, especially
after he gets his third winning one month, Scotty's caddy,
Ted got posted a video dancing in the room post win.
I don't know if you guys saw this, but it
was pretty great. We'll have to put it up on

(30:08):
our Instagram surfer and can take a look. But assuming
Scheffler pays Ted the industry standard ten percent of his
winnings without any tips, that means that he made himself
nine hundred and sixty three thousand dollars in the.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
Month of May.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Not yeah, so not bad life for Ted Scott right now,
you know. And then just take it some time to
do tiktoks and make some day sermons. Yeah yeah, the
Sunday sermons are mixed in now with some dancing in
the locker room.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
But it's pretty funny.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
The video starts off with like a locker room attendant
kind of like cleaning off Scotty's locker.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
And then he comes in dancing, so it's pretty cool.
He does. Yeah, not bad. He can move a little bit.
You guys know that I love me some justin rays stats.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
So again, on the topic of Scotty, Scotty's last nine
outright fifty four hole leads on tour all ended with
a win.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
So it's just crazy.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
I know it's not Tiger stats, but I feel like
we're getting closer. I know people don't like to hear
the comparison, but we can't not talk about Scotty's stats
when he's playing golf like this.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
Now we're seeing it in real time.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I mean, you know, we talked about it with Jason
Sobel a couple of weeks ago, like when is it
fair to really bring up Tiger Woods's name, because you know,
we understand how how that is. But you know, we're
seeing this happen in real time now. If it extends
from us, how long is it going to go? Is
it going to be a three four year run and
then it's over? Well okay, but if not, I mean

(31:42):
we're starting to see what we were seeing back in
the early two thousands. You know, maybe about seventy percent
of that with you know what happened with Tiger.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
So yeah, hair, I can't remember the stat but I
did say that with you and Jason. I said, look
like here's one that we can share. Scotty would have
to do X in his neck like three hundred or
four hundred starts to reach Tiger. So kind of put
it into perspective from you know, not discrediting Scotty in
any way, but yeah, just kind of crazy.

Speaker 7 (32:10):
Got to start somewhere, right, Yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Then you have the debate of saying like Tiger played
against different people, and I think it was Jordan Speeth
actually who said, like, hey, like when I came out
of college and you know, all the guys in my class,
we kind of just did a little you know net
crack left to right, a little you know shoulder you know,
torso twist and maybe the driver up over our head
and we go.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
He goes, Now, these guys.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Started in middle school where they're having physio, they're weightlifting like.

Speaker 8 (32:37):
Coach, coaches, agents like deals, in high school, they have everything,
and they're coming out like, well passed the starting point
of you know, Jordan and those guys and even guys
older than that started out.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
So he's like this next class of people coming out,
they're just all into health and wellness and they've been
doing it since they were like twelve. So you're now
competing with straight up athletes who can vombit, hit it,
and are an incredible physical shape.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
So the game is different. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
I don't think anyone was doing that, you know, when
Tiger was playing, when the Tiger was peaking. The twenty
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Speaker 6 (33:23):
See if you the chance at winning. Harry, you going
to submit your name?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (33:27):
Yeah, absolutely, I do it every year.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
My wife sent me a text from Vegas yesterday saying
to remind.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
Me to do it.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
What a great wife.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
Huh she wants.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Yeah, most you do you put your name in.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
I haven't, but I should. I should.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I don't think you can wear that hat down at Augusta.
I think that's an immediate no.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
It's a no for them.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
You have to check that at the gate.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
That's for me. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
I've looked over at them a couple of times. Earlier.
We had Trevor on and I was just gabling.

Speaker 7 (33:57):
Gilly the Gilly, the kid, ain't he? We don't want it?

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Many?

Speaker 7 (34:03):
Oh goodness, that is terrific. I love it.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (34:10):
Harry, you can probably provide coverage. You're always my guy
when it comes to women's golf.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
But I thought, you know, we saw some stuff from
uh Nelly coming out. She shot her best career around there,
but the highlight was Maya Stark and they asked her
after she won, they said, my, are you just one
two point four million dollars? How are you going to
celebrate it? And how are you how are you going
to part of me spend it? And how are you

(34:35):
going to celebrate?

Speaker 6 (34:35):
And she goes, I didn't even know it was that much,
and she was, you know what, actually, maybe I'll just
move out of my studio apartment, which I thought was
just so great, and you know, probably helped her win
a little bit, just going in there and being like,
I want to win a major. I don't you know.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
She wasn't thinking about the money. She had no idea
how much the person was. She had no idea she's
walking away with two point four mil. She's just going
out trying to contend and trying to trying to win.
So definitely somebody who's now on my radar that I'll
easy to root for.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
You know, it's someone like yeah, oh, she really wasn't
confident at all in her game coming into that US Open.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
It was just sort of trying to piece.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Things together and then you know, the game comes together
next thing. You know, in the weekend, you're you're right there,
and you know, Nelly showed out enough for a Sunday
tease at least, you know, and finished second, which was
cool to see. But you know, they took on that
monster golf course, you know for the LPGA, that's a
you know, that's.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
A big, big golf course.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, Brooks Cup Keepka one back on in twenty seventeen
and it was pretty crazy. I actually watched more of
that on Sunday than I did to Memorial because I knew,
I knew Scotty was gonna win.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
Yeah, you're like, this is it. We already know the outcome,
but it is it.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Maria the sponsored by Adidas, who bombs it a mile.
She was getting a lot of media coverage or the.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
Young girl I think from Spain.

Speaker 6 (35:54):
Yeah, yeah, I think she was easy to root fort too.
She was just fun to watch. Her swing was and
she I mean, she hits it a mile. So that
was kind of cool too.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
It was I actually enjoyed watching a little bit of
women's golf this past weekend.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
So okay, I'm coming along.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
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Speaker 7 (36:12):
Look at her?

Speaker 6 (36:17):
All right. We've been talking about this forever.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
This movie has the most cameos almost out of any movie,
which I don't know if that's setting up to be
great or terrible. Harry probably could have broken the record
if he would have just stood in that casting line
and became one of the ultrahot you could we could
add a cameo by Harry Mays.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
But Happy Gilmore is out.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
We're seeing cameos from everyone, including Rory Brooks, Bad Bunny
and wear SBFS, Justin Thomas. So you guys got to
get out. You got to watch Happy Gilmore. Let us
know your thoughts on it, and who's your favorite cameo
and maybe if they.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Are so Eminem I think I saw Eminem's in it too, right.

Speaker 6 (36:59):
Yeah, this goes on and on. I pulled out a
few where I was like, okay, like, let's throw on
some of our.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
You know, the golf page shows up in there.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Age is there of course? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (37:10):
Yeah, but the list goes on and on and on,
and I think I saw somewhere on the internet that
it was like eighty three or something cameos and the
most in the movie is eighty five or something like that.

Speaker 6 (37:23):
So I was like, does that make it good or
it makes it terrible? I don't know. Plus, I never
really like a sequel. I always like, like the main one,
you know, with Jordan, and then you're going to try
with Lebron.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
It's like, because you know, the sequels rarely ever deliver.
So I'm hoping that this delivers because you know, it's
got a lot to live up to.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
There's no question about it, you know.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Then you have that the other show Apple Stick with
Owen Wilson's Anybody Actually it comes out tomorrow. I think, okay, yeah,
a golf movie, Yeah, it's off golf.

Speaker 7 (37:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
The show.

Speaker 7 (38:02):
Netflix that I have that we'll watch that I have.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
I have like everything.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
It's like you need, like every single thing you need
Peacock and Apple TV and Hulu and Netflix.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Next thing, you know, you're paying exactly what you were
paying before for.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
K It's all working out well.

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Speaker 4 (38:57):
I love it. I did so in the Ink and
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Speaker 6 (39:01):
Stick on your face. I need a couple of those.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
Just sit down there too, Moose.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
I mean, it really is, you know, and some of
the guys you know, got some of the Italian gentlemen
with me, like I don't need some block. I'm like,
you don't need it in like you need it the
first day here. But uh yeah, we haven't really talked
since I've been back, and uh, you can't say enough
about that place. I mean, you know, Teeth of the
Dog was closed. We got a chance to see some

(39:26):
of the renovation going on, which is it's wild to
see just how much I mean, they are just stripping
the entire course and rebuilding it. Jerry Payton's sign. Yeah,
I mean every single hole. It's it's impressive to see
and I've been following on social media, but to see
it in person, it's just crazy. Like knowing the courses,
to see an entire fairway just ripped out is nuts.
But our friend Robert Purtel and his team, Todd Gilly

(39:49):
and the folks there just they always roll out the
red carpet and uh, it was tremendous. Two rounds that
die for, which is just an incredible golf course. It's
crazy that that's like considered this second of course at
this place is yeah, anywhere else it would be the first.

Speaker 7 (40:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
And we played La Ramana, which I talked to you
guys from there, which is cool to play. That's the
private course, so you're playing, you know, a country club,
and it was hard. I mean, it was some of
the toughest greens I've ever seen. You know, it doesn't
have any like dramatic views or anything with the other courses,
but from a pure golf course perspective, it was tremendous
and one of the coolest like clubhouse, open air patio,

(40:30):
you know, ending holes it was. It was so much
fun and yeah, the whole the whole crew had a blast.
We uh we really enjoyed ourselves. I've been thinking about
it every second since.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
I've been back and.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Wanting to get back there. So yeah, it was. It
was tremendous.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
How about you on his daughter's golf career anymore hole
in ones?

Speaker 4 (40:50):
No no eleanor no more hole and noum. But I
did you know, gave her cent her some merch. She's
got the swinging and dang and hat and and quartersip,
so she's ready to go. And uh, I love that.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Get some stuff outside.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Patrick Shean and his mom Brandon just played a practice
round with him a canoe brook.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
I have to say I thought I did, Yeah he was.

Speaker 6 (41:12):
I didn't ask, so they may have grabbed it. But yeah, yep,
let me double check.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
I may have based on that one up.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
On Saturday on Earth. Got to make sure.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, Jim Smith said it's his favorite place on Earth,
goes there every year, so that's a that's a huge
endorsement too.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
I got to get back there now post baby, so
I can actually play thirty six without a child of
my stonach.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
And now my buddies are saying that that's where they
want to go on the next trip because we just
got back from.

Speaker 7 (41:42):
Bayhill and stream Song. Oh yeah, a little over a week.
We've been home for more in a week.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
It doesn't even seem like that. But what a what
a couple of days, man, I mean, we flew into
Orlando and went over to bay Hill and stayed in
the house right off the right off the clubhouse, right
near the short one of the short game areas.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
There.

Speaker 7 (42:03):
They've got twenty seven holes. They've got the.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Eighteen that you see on the Arnold Palmer invitation, and
then they got another nine that is really good, but
it was closed. The other nine was closed the two
days we were there, so you know, we got stuck
on the regular championship course, you know, for both days.
So yeah, good luck by me, I guess for once.

Speaker 7 (42:26):
But what a what a couple of days there. I mean,
the golf course is terrific.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
And knowing the place like I know it from watching
the Arnold Palmer for all these years, and some of
our friends, my friends were amazed, like, how do.

Speaker 7 (42:39):
You know this hole? I'm like, because I've watched the tournament.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Like I know it's gonna do this and it's gonna
know this is what you got to do there.

Speaker 7 (42:47):
They were blown away by it too.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
I'm like, I just wish I could play it as
well as I know it, you know. But I but
I did make a couple of nice pars and I
birdied number eight, which is one of the the third
handicap hole.

Speaker 7 (42:58):
And I always remember when the pros.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Play it there because they always have a hard time,
you know. They some of them leave it up in
the trees on the right. They don't get it down
into the fairway, and then you got water to go over,
and it's.

Speaker 7 (43:09):
A tricky green.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I hit a five five hybrid to one foot the
second day I played it.

Speaker 7 (43:16):
The first day, Yeah, it's a foot. It was a
tap in burden.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
And then the first day I hit a driver and
it hung up in the rough on the right. I
just said, I'm just gonna pitch it, uh, you know,
a little gap wedge, leave myself one hundred yards, put
it to ten feet and I made par. So, you know, like,
I played the whole magnificently for two straight days. Yeah,
And and to stand on the tee on that big

(43:41):
par five number six that goes around the freaking lake
to see where Bryson was when he took that crime
and hit its is unbelievable. You know, he stands there
and he goes it's it's unbelievable. And then you see
on ten, like the ten starts the back, it's a
dog leg right there. It's a housing development right the

(44:04):
back tee, which isn't that much further back than the
tea's that we played on this hole. But to see
the line that Rory took over the houses, he took
the dog leg out of play and hit it over
the houses, over the trees and put it on the green. Now,
I made five there and it was very happy to
make five, yes, but he put.

Speaker 7 (44:24):
It on the green. I'm just like, oh my god.
So that kind of stuff. I parted eighteen, which is
a great hole.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
You know, you remember seeing Arnold Palmer hitting that shot
up that where it kind of took the curve.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
The left and right. You know, it's Tiger Woods.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Making all those great play pars or eight birdies on eighteen.
It's just a really cool place. But it looks so
different when we played it as opposed to when they
play it in March, because the rye overseed makes it
green like, and it's green like Augusta green. It wasn't
that way when we played it because the Bermudas is
taking over now and it's kind.

Speaker 7 (45:01):
Of that yellowish when I was there, No, No, it was.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
It was cool.

Speaker 7 (45:05):
It was cool. I love it. I'm not complaining. I'm
just saying that I'm dividing.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
Maybe a little bit more context is when I went there,
he was playing and I had on brand new, clean,
crispy white shoes. I remember either walking up to you know,
just see him or whatever it was, and coming back
and my.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
Shoes were green. They spreaded all the grass and.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
So I was like, oh no, my shoes and there's
no getting spray paint off of them. So yeah, it's
not always what you say. You know, we saw it
at the at the Truest. All of a sudden, they're
planning flowers and just you know, they need that backdrop.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
So they're going to spruce me up a little bit.
There's some dead grass pops.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Yeah, how about stream song hair?

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Stream Song was awesome. We drove an hour and a half.
It took actually two almost two and a half hours
to get The traffic was an incredible and I for but.

Speaker 7 (45:55):
We get there and this place is in the middle.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
It's like you're on the you're in the desert with
humidity that like that's the best way I can describe.

Speaker 7 (46:06):
Yes, yes, but.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
But like it's like an old it was old orange
groves and citrus groves and stuff, and like they're building core.
It's like you're on the moon and you're in the desert.
It's really crazy. And they've got a couple of different
clubhouses and you stay at the hotel is great.

Speaker 7 (46:24):
The food was pretty good. It wasn't as good as Bayhill.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Bayhill's food was notch, yes, but you have and Bayhill's stuff.
You walk into Bayhills clubhouse, it's like you're walking into
nineteen seventy.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
It was really cool.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
And it's like a monument Darnold Palmer as you would
expect pictures everywhere, and it really really yes, yes, yes, it.

Speaker 7 (46:48):
Just has that old sort of not a bad smell.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
But it's like you're walking into your uncle's place, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (46:54):
It was really cool.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Yeah, song totally modern, totally stripped down and cool.

Speaker 7 (47:01):
The golf courses were great.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
The Gilhan's was the black course that was incredible, and
Tiger Woods's son played and won the Junior event four
days later after we were there. They were there on
the practice round. They're setting up the golf course when
we were playing it, and they came in two days later,

(47:24):
played for three days and Charlie Woods.

Speaker 7 (47:25):
Won the damn thing.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
So you know, that's an incredible course, the Tom Doak Course,
the Blue is great. I didn't play the Red because
it was in the afternoon and it was like ninety.

Speaker 7 (47:35):
Six degrees and I didn't feel like going out for.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Another eighteen so I passed on that. But it is
an unbelievable place. A great guys trip or Gal's trip whatever.
I highly recommend both. Yeah, terrific.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Yeah, I'm here in Casada. Campo is selling out like
twenty six and twenty seven because of the reopening of
Teeth of the Dog. Wow, no way, yeah, wow, there
you go.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
When when's a slated opening that it's.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
They're saying a full year, so they they shut it
down basically January first, I guess. So the plan is
to open it right at the beginning of twenty six.
But we'll keep everybody posting on that. So yevery cool.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
Yeah, I'm heading up there for Gabby's getting married, so
we'll be going up there next week and we're starting
her entire week off on Thursday at Ramblewood Country Club.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
It's in.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we'll be playing a little bit
of a golf up there. So I heard it's been
running a lot up there. If you guys can harry,
if you can leave the state for.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Me, I heard, I heard a rumor that it's pretty Yeah,
there was a Ramblewood golf cart that was randomly found
in like a wah wah parking lot. And yeah, I
believe the guys the cart born guys couldn't find that
it was missing, They didn't nowhere it went, and it
turned up randomly a couple of hours in the middle
of the night in a wow wah parking lot.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
So yeah, wow, so much here, Danielle. You won't believe
like it's everything's green as you.

Speaker 7 (49:07):
I mean, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
Yeah, Wednesday, fly on Wednesday morning, if we need to
get the band together.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Yeah, sweet Wednesday morning. Well you know, I'm I'm available. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (49:20):
I landed like nine thirty something.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
So what next week?

Speaker 6 (49:23):
Yeah, this upcoming weeks? Well yeah, next week.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
So yeah cool. All right, Well let's let's close it
out with the RBC Canadian Open TPC Toronto. First time
I was hit up our friend Eric Robinson Instagram. Great
follow on Instagram, by the way, and he was giving
me some some insights Eric dot Robinson ninety three. He
give him a follow. He reviews a lot of the courses.

(49:46):
But he said he thinks it's it's gonna be very
scorable because they're gonna they're gonna cut some angles and
and do some some some crazy shots over the trees.
But he's he's interested to check it out. That it's
a great, great golf course. You have you have no Scotty,
So congratulations to the field.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Rory took a couple of weeks off, didn't talk to
the media, blew off Jack Nicholas, and now he's coming
to Canada because Scotty ain't there, and you can look like.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
I'm surprised, but I think paying him.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Well of course, But he can also look like a
hero to the PGA Tour because he's going to promote
it like this event.

Speaker 7 (50:23):
He's like a magnet for people to come.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
To this attraction.

Speaker 7 (50:27):
Oh, by the way, Scotty's not there, you know, so.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Yeah, well, let's talk about the Let's talk about the course,
of course, I hope you talk about the rink a
little bit, Harry, and oh yeah, I love that. I
love that feature here. But TPC Toronto.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, TPC Toronto at Osprey Valley North Course, they got
a bunch of courses here. It was actually a reclaimed
gravel pit back in the day and now it's a
par seventy seven and eighty nine yards. Doug Carrick design
back in two thousand and one, and a guy named
Ian Andrew came in two years ago and renovated the place.

(51:02):
But this carric designer is primarily a Canadian golf architect,
so he's designed a ton of really nice golf courses
throughout Canada. So I'm sure you know a bunch of
the Canadian players in the field have had a lot
of experience with his kind of designs. We'll see if
that gives them any kind of advantage. The greens are
sixty five hundred square feet. They're bent grass and poem mixed.

(51:25):
The fairways are bent grass and poem mix as well,
and the average thirty seven yards wide. That's kind of wide,
I mean typically twenty five yards twenty seven yards. These
are a little wider, so a little more forgiving off
the tee, but if you miss the fairway, the bluegrass
rough is three point seventy five inches and growing. So
that's by the end of the week or by the

(51:47):
weekend that's gonna definitely probably be four inches forty eight
sand bunkers, not a lot, only three water hazards, and
it's in play on three holes. I believe there's only
two par fives, so it's not as scorable as as
you know. Par fives would indicate number one and number eighteen,
and there's four par threes. They've ranged from one hundred

(52:07):
and forty four yards to two hundred and thirty seven
and the rink hole is the.

Speaker 7 (52:12):
Par three fourteenth hole.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Moose, and then they can take that down to as
low as I think one hundred and twenty five yards.
These guys will be hitting some you know, really lofted wedges,
or they take it up to maybe a pitching wedge,
but that's gonna be a fun hole.

Speaker 7 (52:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
They'll be you know, tapping the boards, banging the forwards.

Speaker 7 (52:30):
I think I think that is a great effect for
this open.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
It's really you know, of course, plays into the whole
hockey thing, which is great. The shortest par four is
the three hundred and fifty number six, and they can
move the t's up on a couple of other ones
to make them more playable, but there's gonna be a
lot of long par fours. The finish is sixteen is
a five hundred and thirteen yard par four. Then you

(52:54):
go to seventeen, which usually plays as number eight and usually.

Speaker 7 (52:58):
Plays as a par five. I've a five.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Hundred and thirty yard par four, So the two monster
par fours back to back. And then the finish is
the eighteenth toll five hundred and eighty one yard par
five that has a shaved bank leading down into a
pond that sits just you know, front left of the green,
so a big risk reward. You know, they can you
can go forward to two, but if you hit that
shave there, it's gonna probably roll back into the water.

Speaker 7 (53:24):
So very interesting golf course. I'm curious to see it.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Never seen it before, and you know, I'm curious to
see I doubt a lot of the players I've ever
seen this before, maybe even some of the Canadian guys.
So looking back, you know, into the past history of
RBC Canadian opens will really not help you this week
when it comes to picking guys in fantasy gambling or
one and done.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Yeah, I actually went with Robert McIntyre just because like
a repeat, wow, repeat to repeat.

Speaker 7 (53:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
You have Luke Clanton making his pro debut.

Speaker 7 (53:56):
I love that guy.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
How about his line is short too?

Speaker 7 (54:00):
I love it?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
I mean yeah, I mean yeah.

Speaker 7 (54:02):
I love him in a top twenty. I took him
in a top twenty.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
It is a stud.

Speaker 7 (54:09):
Sergeant.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Your and guy Harry Hall came out as ranked eight
in the PGA Tour.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
He's way up the board too.

Speaker 7 (54:17):
He can putt, he can put.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
Appreciate your Canadians and Mackenzie Hughes and Nick Taylor and
Corey Connors, Taylor Pendris.

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Speaker 4 (55:50):
All right, so this is you know. It was Scottie
versus the Field for a while, but now you kind
of have Rory versus the Field at plus four fifty two.
Time winner of this event, Corey Connors. He knew who's
gonna be up that board at plus twelve hundred and
then Ludvic Oberg right is he gonna? Is he gonna
pop back up?

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Right?

Speaker 7 (56:07):
He's been a little drug, right, he's been in the
last couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
Ye have Lowry who's always in the mix, Sam Burns, Pendrith,
Danielle who you mentioned, Harry Hall getting down the board
a little bit. But yeah, this, this is this is
an interesting one and Sam Burns keeps popping out at me.
For some reason, the Canadians do seem to, you know,
care more right when it when it is this, when

(56:32):
it is this event. But the one guy I would
love to see and I love his number is Gary Woodland.
Like even if you look at him in a top
five of plus eleven hundred, and then what do you
what do you what are your thoughts on winning Clark?
Do you think you think he's he's a you think
he's gonna be top of the board at all anymore?

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Do you think he's he could be the board or
he could miss the cut, Like it's it's just it's
that's the that's the way it is with it.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
Yeah, but he seemed like he was going to be,
you know, a top five consistent player, right, and he seemed.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Like to be one of those guys soul with him.

Speaker 7 (57:09):
Yeah, he's kind of like Max Homer.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
To me, they're very similar players in that they they
really need to have a lot of like they lose
confidence in their own ability as the game is happening.

Speaker 7 (57:23):
It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Another was hot.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
For a little bit, and I think it's just he's struggling,
so he's maybe searching right now. I mean he was
just carrying the bag for himself.

Speaker 7 (57:34):
Caddy.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Yeah, he's got a new caddy who actually caddied for
Tiger Woods recently. Uh, the guy named Lance Bennett is
the caddy now for Max Holme. He carried his own
bag at the US Open qualifying the other day.

Speaker 7 (57:48):
And by the way, that's that's another thirty six hold.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
You know, trucking your own bag after you played last
week and now you're gonna play this week.

Speaker 7 (57:55):
I think he's gonna be gassed.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Yeah, personally, could be in the plays you're saying here,
I'm taking Lowry in a top ten, and I might
take him in one and done.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
It's between him and Sung Jay for me as far
as one and done. Nick Taylor in a top ten
at plus three sixty. He to me, I know Connors
is ranked the better Canadian player, but I would take
Nick Taylor over Corey Connors any day in a match,
because Nick Taylor, to me, has balls.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
About that? How about how about that justin Rose, first
round leader plus sixty six hundred.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Yeah, he's another guy who when he makes the cut
and he can finish fifth or he can finish sixty fifth.
It's unbelieved. There's no real middle ground with him either
right now. But Luke Clanton in a top twenty at
plus one fifty. I love this kid, can't wait to
root for him now that he's making his pro debut.

(58:52):
And lud Vig Odberg is another guy that just where
I'm just like he could find it at any moment
and go win the day golf tournament. He's that good. Yeah,
but he's been he's sort of been had these windhom
Clark finishes T fifty six, you know, T forty eight,
this kind of stuff where you're like, he's way.

Speaker 7 (59:11):
Better than that.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Yeah, yeah, all right. Well, next week we will be
previewing the US Open at Oakmont, and we will be
joined by none other than Jeff Kitty from Aronomik talking
about PGA Championship. He was out officiating, I believe, the
last BJA Championship, getting ready for them hosting. So it'd
be cool to talk to him going into a major

(59:34):
to talk about what that preparation is like. But I mean,
everything we're seeing out of Oakmont looks unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Eight inches by the time they off.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
Somebody wrote like, if they're cutting it with by hand
now since the machines can't get through it, and everyone's
like they have scissors, she didn't mean hands. They actually
they have law more, but they have push mowers out.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
Three yard par threes, Like, yeah, this is going to
be insane. It's going to be so I can't wait
to watch it. Getting the chance to play that course
last year in audal conditions obviously, but how about that.
I think I shot in eighty three on that I
haven't broken like ninety at the Legacy Club, and I
don't know if I ever have. I can't say I
can't eat that course, but then I shoot an eighty
three at Oakmont, that makes total sense.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
Right, Yeah, that's hard.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
I could go find my ball and hit it back.
I could always get it back and play. That's that's
the thing, right, I just have to be able to
find it.

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
The wind at the nineteen twelve club has made me
feel like I'm in Oklahoma.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
What's going on out there? Harry?

Speaker 7 (01:00:34):
I don't know today the wind in this area.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Yeah, has not believed this the past couple of years.

Speaker 7 (01:00:39):
No, there's it's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Yeah. Yeah, all right, well we're looking forward to that.
Thanks again to Trevor Benseil and Danielle Save travels up
here next week. Maybe we can try to try to
get together be fun.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
Thanks guys.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Oh, Caddy for you at Rambo ball. Yes, there you
go with the hat, with the hat, Yeah, with the hat,
you got it?

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
Anything you make your first appearance catting for Brandon.

Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
I would love that. Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
Funny two people in the bag, Gaddy, Gabby's.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
I said to Gabby, She's like, are you and Brandon
going to come play? I was like, does he get
an appearance?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Big?

Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
There you go? Good question.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
I love it. All right, we'll see you next week.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Thanks for listening to listen, swing it and dang it