Swing It & Ding It: Episode 242

Harry and Danielle are joined by John Baptiste to discuss his incredible and inspiring golf journey from Rwanda and his recent APGA Tour win at the Jefferson Classic at the1912 Club.

They break down Scottie Scheffler’s comeback at the BMW Championship to claim his 5th Tour win of the year and D spills the tea on Ben Griffin's creatine blowup to start his final round at Caves Valley, LIV Golf League’s ridiculous POY result, the Ryder Cup roster volatility and more…

They also give their thoughts on the action from the US Amateur at Olympic Club, detail the $40MM purse for the Tour Championship, see the Course of Course at East Lake, sponsored by Buy My Ballz and attempt to See the Line for the final Playoff event, courtesy of Bet Parx!

Thank you to our Sponsors: BetParx, Mall Chevrolet, Comcast Business, Rita’s Water Ice

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
I just got to get out there and swing and
ding it.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, you know, just guess it's going to go out
there and try to swing it and ding it. All right,
Welcome in to swing it and ding it. Episode number
two hundred and forty two, and we are sponsored by
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our friends over at All Access GTE and of course

(00:48):
we are in an iHeartMedia podcast. I'm Harry Mays along
with Danielle Matthews no moose this week. Now he is
on his annual trip to Lake George with Greene and
the family, so they're up there for a couple of
days of rest and relaxation. Hopefully he's getting in a
couple of rounds of golf too, But he'll be back
with us next week. But we got a really special

(01:08):
guest today. I've been so fired up since I met
this guy and watched him play golf just a few
weeks ago at my club, the nineteen twelve Club, they
held the APGA Jefferson Classic. Now I got the hat
on here APGA Tour. Uh, it's it's just an unbelievable Uh.

(01:28):
You know endeavor. That's been going on for a couple
of years now, and I just became familiar with it
because they came to my club and I met a
couple of guys, including our guests John Baptiste, hawk Is Zemana.
Did I pronounce that correctly, Jean Baptiste, I I just
missed the lost.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Man Lettier, say it proper for us?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Can you can you repeat that game? My last man?
All right? Hawk Is Zemana, Oh you did an amazing job.
Oh yes, you got.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
It all right? Beautiful. Now you're from Kigali, Rwanda, over
in the continent of Africa. We have so much to
ask ask you. But first of all, I got to
congratulate you on winning the Jefferson Classic, the two day
event at the nineteen twelve club. This guy played some golf. Man.
He shot seven under par the first day and then

(02:17):
another three under par in day two for a minus
ten score. He won by four shots that he won
this thing going away. So congratulations. Is that your first
ever win on the APGA Tour, Yes.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Buzzlevoy, I want to thank you as well for that
wishing for me.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yes, this is my foster win for the APGA and
you know he mean it's allowed to me absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Man. It was a great, great competition. I'll tell you,
I was impressed. I volunteered for two days for both
the days of the tour. They had a great member
like a pro am the day on Sunday with a
bunch of Philadelphia Eagles. A lot of Philadelphia celebrities and
athletes were involved than that, and then they had the
the event on Monday and Tuesday, and uh, I've never

(03:04):
seen the golf course look any better. So you guys
got you got great weather. I mean everything just turned out,
you know, perfectly for you. Now since then, you've been
up to New York too, and how di would you
come in fifth up there?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Or tenth, tenth, tenth?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, but your fifth overall in the standings.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yes, I'm on actually I'm on a fifth for the
Jeff Jeff points and then I'm a six Cisco Cup,
which is we finished last week in New York.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Okay. Yeah, you got Cisco Cup, which is sort of
like you their FedEx Cup, and then they've got the
regular standings and you still have like four or five
events coming up. I guess you have a couple of
weeks off until you're Las Vegas event at TPC Las Vegas.
So what are you gonna do with all your downtime?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Actually, I have a lot of tournaments in between.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Right now, I'm in Oklahoma, I'm gonna I'm gonna play
Acroma Open starting from tomorrow's this round and then the
tournament's three days so and then after that I'm heading
back home. I'm going to play some minor leagues in
between as well, and then I have a lot to
walk with my trainer and my coaches and also my

(04:15):
Psyche coaches.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
So it's pretty much it feels like it's blake, but
it's not blake.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I see have some walks absolutely well.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
If Moose were on here, he always likes to talk
about the golfer's journey and just kind of your introduction
to golf, how you got started everything else.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Harry mentioned that you're from Rwanda.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Incredibly inspiring journey through golf, but set it up for us,
talk us about your you know, your journey with golf,
where you started.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
How you got started, and what brought you to today.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
You know, when when I get that question, it's bring motion,
you know, it's pretty much the emotion he came out
as well. So I started playing golf when I was
five years old. But the leason why play golf was
you know, you guys, you know the history about Rwanda,

(05:07):
about the genocide nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
It was, you know, we had a bad time.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
So but we we have like a little house by
next to the golf course. So anyway, after that nineteen
ninety five, I was sitting on the fence looking people
playing golf and I started I start getting a branch
hitting the stone, and you know that's how I was

(05:33):
like trying to because all the time I go home,
I asked my mom, bhoys, my dad, it was my brothers,
you know, because I was too young, I couldn't figure
out what happened right, So and anyway, so she's like, yeah,
they want to come back about it. It's about the
more was just days past. It was like getting tough
and tougher. So that's when I was sneaking, like on

(05:54):
the fence, look the people playing golf. And after that,
I sneak inside the golf course, try to start the
golf ball, setting them, you know, still still using the brune.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
For the cuddies.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
So you used the stick from a tree and a
stone as a golf ball to start. Yes, that's unbelievable,
incredible at the age of five.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
So and then you know, after that, I sneaking a
golf in the golf course of course, you know, starts
distatching the golbos and the you know, it's like a
big pond in there, you know, and the bushes. You
know what if I find I will hit them and
others I'm going to sell them, you know, try to
try to make do you know.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Right, so you'd find golf balls and sell them.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yes, I think it was like age seven the time
as well. Yeah, and then I start cutting for the cuddies.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Started cutting.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, I was cutting for the.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Around like age eight.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
No, you know, it's no, there was no JJ there.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
I was like you get to figure out by your own,
you get a carry, you know, there's that time I
was no caddy.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I was like the ball from nowhere, right, but.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
I can sneak out on Mondays because the caddies who
are actually official cardies that pay.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
On Mondays m hm. So I was carrying for them.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
And then when I do like for caddy, I start
using their clubs because they have like any pubs, so
I was they're just you know, hitting bows. And but
before that, there's this guy who's my mentoror who's like
my dad, who's like my brother. His name is Robert Jarrohanga,
so he knows me when I was five years old

(07:41):
at that time, when I was sitting on the fence,
you see, I was have much more passionate about golf,
and he's like, yeah, I'm gonna start teaching goth So
became so close. He was so young to it was
like I think it was about maybe eighteen years old
that time, and you know he started taking me and
started even paying my school fees and stuff like that,

(08:02):
and you know, he teaches me how to play golf
and then after that I'd be ten number one durning
in the country and you know I found myself be
chemic professional golfment Wow.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's incredible.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
What a story from Like Harry said, you know, a
stick with rocks and just you know, working on that hand,
eye coordination, sneaking over the fence. What a journey and
then just coming off winning by four shots. Yeah, you
know at the nineteen twelve golf for the apg GA. Like,
that's what an incredible story. Thanks for sharing that with us.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Now, when did you come to America?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
I came to this, I would say, like the end
of two thousand and.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Twelve, twenty twelve. Okay, and are you.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
In to quest of Florida?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
No, no, no, no, Actually I went to uh so
the funny part the guy who teaches me how to
play golf for but he came here two or three
So he came for college. You was such a great golfer.
He was like amazing golfer. So he get a scholarship.
He came here for golf scholarship. Actually you know where
it was playing here in Oclahoma?

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh really?

Speaker 4 (09:12):
So yeah, that's why he's Actually he's the one who
signed him up for this tournament.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I was not even ready for this tournament. He's like, yet,
I go, it's such a great city.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
You're gonna enjoy the golf courses way, and it's it's
a good place you can go just keep practicing. Anyway,
So I came, I came, and I went to visit.
It was only one guy, I know. So I went
to Atlanta. I live in Atlanta and stayed there with
him for.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
For a while.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay, but right now, you play at Turtle Creek, don't you?
Down in Florida, you were telling me. And that's that's
where Danielle plays golf.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yes, that's the place where the Daniel's place. So so
so far I'm on the waiting list, became a member,
so which is like, but they said allowed me to be,
you know, to go there and play hopefully going to
work out, and that's what moving forward to it.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
So you live down here in the Jupiter area.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yes, actually I live in you right, Yes.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
So I live like a Northage question. I mean, oh yeah,
I'm by, I'm by like the twin question on Hookside.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah exactly, I know exactly what. I used to live
on County Line Road right there, so I know, right
by right by Jupiter Hills. Yep.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
We got to hook Brandon up with Jean Baptiste for
play a couple of rounds of golf.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
When you get for sure, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, Brandon was Brandon was a winner on the corn
Ferry Tour. Okay, yeah, and then played on the PGA
Tour too, and it actually still does.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
So, oh that's great. I can ask him some questions.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Absolutely, it'll be a good round. You guys can get
out and have some fun.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
But yeah, well talk to us obviously that went on
the APG A talk about that impact for minority golfers,
the opportunity for advancement.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
What kind of set you up? What you got from
this when and you know what that opportunity is.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
You know, we have to go.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
I get to take that one that wanted the way back.
So I'm gonna answer in two ways. So the first
of all, how I had APG. That's the first time
I'm gonna start with it. So I had about a
PG through a friend of mine. And you know, that
time I was coming wrong and I was a caddy
med Stone and that time I was like, you know,

(11:30):
I was playing golf, but I don't want you know,
it was so hard for me to compete.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
It was so tough. And he told me about APG.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
That's He's like, you should go play this tournament is
such a great it's good opportunity for you. I told
I told him myself, Oh it's it's hard for me.
I don't know if I can do it. But anyway,
So in menu I when I had a dream about Tiger,
which is four years ago, that's uh before before COVID hit,
and my mind was like hitting again into the ap G.

(12:00):
I started doing like a lot of research about APG.
I was like, what is PG? So I was like,
I get into it. And so suddenly I was cutting
for the for the Cisco Chuck Robins mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I did you know he was?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
He was a man's sponsor for the I didn't know
Cisco that the most main sponsor for the PGA. Okay,
So I just shot like that time I showed like
sixty three. Medston was like course record and he's like,
what do you show here? Show sixty three? The members like, yeah,
here's a course record. He's like, what are you doing here?
I got to say, my dream is to plan APG.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
And you had no idea it was a sponsor.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Wait a second.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Shot a sixty shot.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
The sixty three course record at Maidstone. And he was
a caddy and he's caddying for the the CEO of Cisco,
which is a PGA Tour.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
This was all talk about things lining up right.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, wow, we'll get her back here. I guess we
lost his connection but out in Oklahoma. But I knew
this would be a terrific story.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
I mean, oh yeah, and just look at I mean,
from hitting you know, finding rocks and hitting it with
a stick to you know, you know, you bumping into
him locally, him winning the APG A and then just
talking about how he started playing with that you know,
had a dream about Tiger and then everything just started happening.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
That's that's absolutely crazy. Let's see if we can get
them back.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
But there he is.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Okay, Yeah, I think someone just called me into I
was like.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
So, last you met the CEO of Cisco through of
carrying at Maidstone and he realized you have the course
record sixty three.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
He asked, asked, He's uh, He's like, who's a good
player here? Is like the guy who's in your box.
He's like, oh okay, he asked me. It's like, what
do you shoot here? I said, just show sixty three.
At that time, I was carry tournament too. It was
not like it was not like so you caddy for him?

Speaker 3 (14:10):
At first?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:11):
I was yeah, That's how I was counting. So he's like,
what are you doing here? I goes, I say, my
man goes to go. I mean my dream is to
go to play a PG two on a PG.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I see his face.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
He was coming like so bright, and he was like
what He's like, let me do what I can't do
for you. Uh So, you know when we finished with
you know, we changed the contact stuff like that, and
then he ended up calling.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
He talked to Ken Bentley, who's the chairman of APG.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
So I remember my first event was in Saint Louis,
which is about.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Her there like in uh in a month.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
So I went there with the high confidence and I
thought I was like, I'm gonna win the tournament. I
was like, you know, and you know, I thought I
was wetter than everybody out there.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
And the thing I found out there was different.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
They're all good.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Oh, everybody was good.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
And the probably this guy Brad brad manas who was
yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
So I played with him.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
And humbled quirk yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, So I give him some little change in the
first nine holes and on the back and fair part.
I remember show too, on the first show, even the
first one, and he goes he's like, hey, we need
to talk. He's like, what do you have to talk?
He's like, you have some game. I look at him.
I said to you just should like five on that show.

(15:45):
Even why did I have a game? Just stay away
from me. So he's like, he goes like, do you
know who I am? I said, I don't know who
you are. He's like, you have to listen. So I
was like, okay. He's like, my name is Brad and
the manas I play PG twive and this and this,
this and this, I was like okay. And then I
found out his good friend of mine now mutual friend,

(16:07):
which is the guy who told me about the APG.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
So we get that connection.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
So he gave me some great powerful as well, like
you know, to push it the way they The next
tournament was in Philly.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I didn't do well. I think I show like seventy
five eighty I was like cap and down. And then
the third one was in Texas actually eighty seven eighty
seven sixty six.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
But when I was flying back home, I dreamed eighty
seven on the plane and I was sitting with the
next to the old man who's like about six maybe
like seven years old.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
And he goes like, what do you mean eighty seven?

Speaker 4 (16:52):
I goes, oh, I'm sorry, sorry. So it's just I
just finished playing off and that show eighty seven. It's
just I cannot get out of my head. You know,
I don't know if I'm good and I will start
questioning myself. And so I went back, and you know,
I went back.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I went back to Curry. I was carrying as well
at that time. I was going back and forth.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
And now the season is over, so they I have
to apply for the full membership for the EPGA, Right,
So I applied for the full membership for the e
PJA and great, which is I do think about the APGA.
They did amazing job. They They're like, they say, you
know you have a talent. You're going to try to
do the best as we can for you and see

(17:34):
what it can do. So they get they found a
coach for me, which is part of Theson in Sudglass.
So I used to go see Padaderson. But also before that,
also I was working with the guy Jason Jeffory Jeffery
who's teaching pro Medstone who helped me out as.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Well Maidstone on Long Long Island again, right, yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
So and then that that year I did great.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
I finished like in top I th in top twenty,
and they didn't give up.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
They keep supporting me.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
So the last year again they keep supporting me and
do the best as they can.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
They get me the matuana.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Somebody must be calling.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Calling him again. Yeah, I have a question for once
he comes back on.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
I want to know if that you know that man
that he carded for the you know what did you
say it was the president of Cisco or just an
import like CEO?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Who was the guy at Cisco that you played with?
Us said? Let me see what I can do.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
I need to know if you've talked to him since
your win at the nineteen twelve club.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, he he had been my biggest support. Even now
we have we have what.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Was that phone call like calling him telling him you won.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, so that's no part of that.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
I still have some stories that I think that when
I'm gonna come back down, I actually have some studies.
So but anyway, so the apg to where they found me,
the coaches and the trainer on the gym and the
psychology and everything started became pretty good. So I finished

(19:25):
up top fifteen last year, wow, so and then this
year they're like they told me, you know, you're so closed.
You know, I was playing well, doing the best as
I can, and they say, you know, this year you're
looking great.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
You're gonna make it. And you know, they gave me
like a full support I need right now. So I
became so close.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Million times I've been in a pressure group, like maybe
more more than seven times. This year, I put myself
in a good position to be winning tournaments, like more
than seven times.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
And with that great support team around you college, just
the you know, the sports aspect of the nutrition, the
swing coaches, everything it takes. That's what a lot of
our listeners we try to share that behind the scene
story of it's more. You know, obviously it's you, it's
your caddie, but there's an entire team.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
So that's awesome that you share.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
That, Yeah, it takes, it texts the team it is.
It is not me.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
I've tried to be honest with me, always do what
I can do myself, but without the people I have
behind me, behind my support. I have like people who
support me who told me, like you encourage me, you
know you can do it this and this you know
they call me, they make me feel like I can
do it, and those are people I.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Do want to even do thank them as mud. You know,
I want to say thank you so much for.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
All my support and for all my followers who just
like saying, no, keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
You got this, you know.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
So I want to say thank you so much for
those people coming back for you. Your question about the
phone call. So, the first phone call I get was
from the chairman.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Of the EPGA Okay Ken Belly Kim Belly. He called me.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
He's like, John, you make me proud. I remember I
was at nineteen twelve. The tear came out. I just
I just step out. I was crying. I was like,
I said, can thank you so much for your support
and blah blah blah, this and this. So it's like, yeah,
you know you got this. You're looking great. Just keep

(21:35):
doing what you're doing. And then a couple of minutes later,
I'll save a text from from Chuck.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
He's like them, you made it, and I was like, wow,
thank you.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
He's like, I'm busy, I'm gonna call it tomorrow. We're
gonna talk about it, this and this. So the next
day he text me is like, when are you available
to I want to hear about it.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I said, I'm available.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Not I want to talk about it all day.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
So he goes like, I'm so proud. And you know
what is He asked me, what is the next level?
What do we need to make for the next level?
I goes I said, everything we're doing, we're doing the
right way, and I'm going to try to keep doing
what I'm doing, and uh, you know, push more, how

(22:31):
to do more work and do like a lot of
research about my game, about the golf courses. How how
can I how can I be able to handle the
pleasure more so the thing I'm working on with my
psychologists or my teams. He goes like, I'm behind your
back every day and I'm here for you great support.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Now tell us the does the leader at the end
of the year get an automatic exemption into the PGA
Tour Americas or is there more than one guy?

Speaker 4 (23:05):
I think it's the winner, for the for the for
the for the for the for the season. I think
who gets the the the the Latin latinstatus for the America.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Right, which is that's branding played on that too, and
he won on that tour too, and then.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Now the pj A Tour Latino America is now pj
A Tour Americas. They combined with Canada, the Canada.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Yeah, and that's so Mackenzie Tour and the Latino America
combined and it's now PGA of Americas.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
So that's the goal, I imagine, And then even if
you're in the top five or ten, you probably still
get an exemption or a start here there on the
On a tour like that, I would think, right.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
You know, I hope, I don't know what will happening,
but you know, I'm just here hoping. If it happens,
I'm gonna be great, and you know, I'm gonna be
think the disponsors.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
But if it doesn't happen, I am going to keep
working hard, work.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Well, yeah, I can fill you in on a little
bit here.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
So the tour, the A p G A Tour winners
and top performers are off often awarded.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Exemptions into PGA Tour and corn Fury events. But the
winner will of the A p G A.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Tour Farmers Insurance Invitational receives an exemption to play in
the Honda Classic, which is in your backyard. So that's
at PGA National So that's something too to take a
look out. So they have the PGA Tour Pathway to
Progression program, So lots of opportunities are providing.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
You're setting yourself up to capitalize on a bunch of them.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
So you know, I'm not I'm gonna do the best
as I can.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
And as I said, it's uh the APG Tour that
are doing all support for us, that are doing the
best for the for.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
The players, like all the players, we you know they're
good that.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
You know, if it's there's no difference between the APG
and the PGA Tour, I get onto you that it's
the guys that are getting better that and even if
you see the winning scoreses, it's it's it's crazy, but
you know the way if things happens, happens, if it
doesn't happen, So we keep working hard and try to
make it in different ways you can do like Mondays.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Monday Monday qualifiers.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, I mean they I hope they're going to bring
that back. They try to cut it off, I know. Yeah,
so and then you know, I'm looking forward for the
Q School coming up in September.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
So it's it's a lot of things which is kind
of happen in between.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Now people can follow you on Instagram at John Baptiste Golf. Correct, yes, yeah,
John Baptiste Golf. And uh, do you have any like
charitable stuff that you do or is it all through
the tour because I know they do a lot of
charitable like, uh, you know, donations and stuff through the tour.
Do you have something on your own you want to promote?

Speaker 4 (25:54):
No, I don't have anything for me so far, because
you know, I just get back and on the and
stuff like that. So that thing I'm gonna look look
look after that, you know, see what happens.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
And but you know, I get I get support and
you know.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
So well, I know you know you've been in Philadelphia,
played the nineteen twelve club. What were what are some
of the other golf courses Have you had a chance
to play any other ones in the Philadelphia area over
your career?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Uh? The one who played the last time it was
the Bruce Stone.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Oh, Bluestone. Yeah, you guys had the tournament there a
year or two ago, right.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
So and then yeah, that's I think that's only two
golf courses have been playing Philly.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Okay, And but you.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Know, there's so many amazing golf course.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
I didn't know about it until when last a couple
of weeks when I was there.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, well, next time you come back, man, we'll have
to play. We can get you out there on some
of those other ones. I'm done, you know, all right, Well,
best of luck to you man. You're a terrific guy
and an inspirational story and I'm just glad I got
to know you. I want to stay in touch with you.
And you got to play golf with Danielle and Brandon

(27:14):
when you're back in Florida because they live like right
down the street from you.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I would love to so.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
And then anyway, that other people who I want to
think like a couple of clubs, Madstone and Love Blolly Pines.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
She knows where it is.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah, yeah, so Love Bloody is the members of Blah
Blah that big is my support and you know they
do everything for me as well, and same thing Madstone.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
But but I'm Blady they do they it's it's pretty
much they take me as a family.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
They would just do whatever they need to be done
for me to move for the next level. So it's
such amazing club and the members They're so great and
I want to thank them so much as well.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Awesome, I'm sure appreciate it. Man, thanks so much for
jumping on and we'll stay in touch.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
One more time. One more thing.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah, I want to think nineteen twelve. Okay for this sponsorship,
I'll show you think about it. I don't know if
you had about it.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
No, let's hear it.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
So i'veter w in a tournament nineteen twelve they offer me,
they offer me sponsorship.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
So the next time you're going to see me. That's
why I said I have a toe my heart. Ah.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
So the next time you're going to see me with
nineteen twelve, I'm gonna be wearing their shirt, the logos
on my chest.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Awesomefcial ambassador of nineteen twelve club. Always taking a piece
of Philly with you to every tournament you go to.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
We love that support from the Philly community, from us,
from everybody.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
That's incredible. Congrats on that.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Thank you so much. I do want to thank them
for their support.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Absolutely, Thank you very much, John Baptiste. Will stay in
touch man, great, great, uh talking with you and uh
best of luck the rest of the year.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Thank you so much. Hey, I will see it down.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
I'll see.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
All right, there is Jean Baptiste Haka Zemana from the
APGA Tour. You can check them out at APGA dot org,
their great website and of course him on his Instagram
at John Baptiste Golf. So we'll take a quick time
out and be back with a whole lot more. We
got to get into the BMW. We got Ryder Cup stuff,

(29:29):
we got te to spill, we got a whole lot more,
and the Tour Championship is coming up back after this.
All right, welcome back to swing it and ding it.
It's so great to touch base, was Jean Baptiste Haka Zemana.
That's a guy I'm gonna stay in touch with. I
know you are as well. Dan, Yea, yeah, he's repping.

(29:51):
He's repping the shirt too, so I was totally unaware
of that. But man, what a story. I mean, you know,
during that Rwandan genocide in the nineties, which is just horrific,
he lost his father and five of his siblings, and
he was so young that he didn't even realize what went.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
On, and mom just said they'll be back tomorrow, back.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
And next thing you know, he gets involved in golf.
Using a stick from a tree and a stone. I mean,
it's just unbelievable. It's like there's something a movie should
be made of, you know, maybe.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
It will golf and just you know, a tree branch
and putting that together and then just you know, the
support he has here in the US and all the
connections and just the right things lining up for him
at the right time. It's what a great guy easy
to root for. That's cool.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Absolutely, And speaking of you know, things lining up at
the right time, Scotty Scheffler just keeps too many, my goodness.
I mean, this is unbelievable. Like I was, I played
a lot of golf over the weekend and was in
and out and it's you know, the weather's great here
and stuff been out, but I caught as much as
I could. And I'm thinking old Bobby mack Man, it

(30:57):
was gonna win this thing. He had a four shot
lead going into Sunday, played terrific golf throughout the you know,
the first three days, and he goes out and makes
three bogies in his first five holes, back to back
bogies to start, and his four shot lead was gone
by the time he left the fifth green. So you're

(31:20):
like Scotty's he's playing with Scott.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yes, Skuy was even on my radar Sunday morning, Harry, like,
I mean, like it's just and but you know what,
by the time he was, I wasn't surprised. He enters,
you know, the final round, four shots back. Yep, he
grinds to a sixty seven.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
But I mean, do we not have to talk about
that legendary chivin on seventeen that.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yes, they had, he had a one shot lead at
that point. And they get to seventeen. You know, McIntyre
is still trying to like, you know, find a way
to at least get it to a playoff. You know,
you're thinking, and here comes both of them are off
the green on seventeen, the long part three, and Scotty
makes what with eighty plus feet I don't know what
a eighty five feet. This thing seemed to roll for

(32:02):
a mile and it just kept rolling and rolling and rolling,
and it looked like the last rotation it went over
the front of the cop and in And the look
on McIntire's face was just like.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
The same as everybody else's, exactly like you because if
my nephew is here visiting and he watched it and
he goes, do you know how far that was?

Speaker 3 (32:23):
He's like from and I'm like, yeah, I'm flabbergasted too.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I was like, oh, unreal, Yeah, really unreal. And you know,
McIntyre hit a great ship too, it just didn't go in.
If it weren't for Scotty's chip, you would have been saying, Wow,
what a shot by McIntyre. But you know he had
to make it basically, and then or go to eighteen
and see Scotty maybe put it in the creek, which
he did not do. And you know he goes on

(32:48):
and wins.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
And Harry, that's five wins this year, headline and two majors.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, unbelieved.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
He's just on another another level. You have to share.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
It's a good segue. You know, I love a Justin Rayshott.
Scotty Scheffler is looking for back to back PGA Tour
seasons with over five wins. One player has done this
over the past forty years on tour.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
One guest, take a.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
While, guest, Tiger Woods, Wow, give Harry a prize?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
You the confetti?

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Yeah, Tiger Woods nineteen ninety nine to two thousand two,
thousand to one, one to two, two to three through
uh not three to four, but five to six and
six to seven.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Like that's what that's why?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah? I mean time he keeps knocking these things down,
you start comparing things, you have to Frida, and he
always comes up with tiger woods. So we're seeing, we're
seeing it play out. Now will it last as long?
I don't know. Probably not, I mean, you know.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
But maybe it Really it feels like it's been lasting
for six years. I mean it hasn't been. But if
you look at it and then, like I said, the
surprise you know starting But wait, I do have to
ask this? What was this just me? Or was there
no sound on the broadcast?

Speaker 1 (34:01):
On there?

Speaker 5 (34:02):
We had our commercials had sound, are you know, the
breakaways everything? But the broadcast had absolutely no audio. And
I went to ax to Twitter if you will, and
people were saying the same thing.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
But other people are like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I had no I had audio?

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Oh, Harry.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
I mean it's I know, we may have our opinions
on the broadcasters everything else, but listening to golf and silence.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Is sometimes I mute the broadcast and do it myself.
But no, I had audio.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
That's great practice. I sure not practicing myself, but.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
That's when CBS does the broadcast. I usually mute it
and do it.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
You never do that when my guy Brad's on the mind.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Oh I love NBC. In fact, I was going to
give them props for the way they there. I don't
know if you noticed this, but the scoreboard that they had.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I did know.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
And then they had the Battle for the Top thirty
little scoreboard like which I love, twenty six through thirty two,
and Harry.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Hall was like, you know he had that Bogey and
he's at twenty seven and you're watching and like, you know,
I I think I was saying it. I was ever
Admirals today talking to Mike Milizia, and I said, you know,
you know some of these guys and then you see
them and you know on the CUSP and that leaderboard,
like you're saying, Harry, Like I saw Harry Hall at
twenty seven. Then I see he Bogey's seventeen and then
Birdy's eighteen.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
And I'm like, like, be advancing to next week? What's happening?
But yeah, that leaderboard was cool. I think they did
a great job with that. I like to see visually.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
Who's advancing to next week, who's not making it? Like
and seeing that teeter totter, you know, names go up,
you're going twenty seven, year twenty eight, and you're it's like,
what's going on?

Speaker 1 (35:30):
And they flashed to those guys like saying, you know,
so and so made a bogie here whatever, and this
took or and then he makes a birdie and it
took points away from somebody else like they were explaining
it as it was going on. I thought they I
thought they did a great job with that. To be
honest with you.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
It pulled you in too, and like I said, like
seeing like wow, okay, he's just gonna miss by that
that shot or that put just cost him like advancing
the next week.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
You know, But did you see I don't know if
he saw Ben Griffin, who we love on this show.
Oh yeah, what's plus six of the first three holes?

Speaker 3 (36:03):
That was my main tea right there? Yeah, oh it isn't.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I don't want to step on your te Go ahead,
let's start the tea right now.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
We want to start right now.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Do it.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Let's just do it Sunday at the BMW. These are
you know, the tea is all trending topics in golf, Harry.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
We like to go through and talk about this, but
you know, sometimes they just come out naturally because it's
what we're all seeing. Sunday at the BMW, Ben Griffin
had like I guess you were saying, a nightmare start
six over after three holes. Turns out he accidentally overdosed
on creatine right before the round. The comment just made
me love the Internet even more than I already do,

(36:41):
saying all types of silly things.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
But he said he was shaking.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
He four budded the first. He had a fight to
calm down and refocus. You could tell he's worked a
lot on this mental strength because he you know, talking
through and he knew it was going to come up,
like you know, this happened whatever, you know, maybe something
relatable thinking you grab dcalf and then you're realizing it's
a triple express, so your body's wired. You're just like
trying to survive what's going on. And then all of

(37:03):
a sudden he talks himself down. After that rocky start,
birdied seven of his final twelve, rallied to finish T twelve,
So just you know, maybe a little reminder that even
the pros need a reset. So, you know, starting out
like that, telling himself calm down, being able to rally

(37:25):
also kind of brings up Ben's career as we know
it and where it's kind of gone to. If we
look back four years ago, Ben Griffin quick golf, he
got a mortgage job, and now look at him. He
came back stronger, He won the Zurich, he went a
two time PGA Tour winner. This year he's not just winning,
he's in Ryder Cup contention.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
You know, discussions.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
It's just true comeback vibes and even overdosing on creatine,
he still comes back rallies like that, finishes T twelve.
His name is, you know, becoming more and more of
a household name. I think it's pretty cool that it's
part of the discussion and seeing that, you know, he
did quick off and try to sell some mortgages and
now look what happens.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Well, I've had plenty of seven six four starts at
my golf course, so I could commiserate with Ben Griffin
on those first three holes and credit to him, you
know for finishing three under for the tournament, finished one
under for that day. Bert making all, you know, minus
seven after that. So it's terrific. And I've had the
shakes at the start of a golf tournament or around

(38:27):
a golf it's not because of creatine. It's usually because
of you know, dehydration or maybe too much of this
or not enough of that. But it's never been because
of creatine. But I can identify with the shakes.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
And he was funny just explaining it, like how it was.
He's like, you know, I got like a rock at
the bottom, just put it in like it was drinking
it and whatever. So it was funny.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
But I've had a rock of things at the bottom too,
and it was something else. It wasn't creatine. But good
for you.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
Now now you're down like the rest of the internet exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I am the Internet.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, Harry's the one commenting on my post from like
you know, h one two four nine seven at whatever,
just a fake burner account. Yeah, right, that keyboard gangster
at home.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
I thought this was kind of funny, so JT they
were acting or part of me. They were asking him
like some of the funniest things that like ever happened
to him or whatever, And he said that he was
talking to Tiger, and Tiger acted like his phone cut out,
and then he called him back two minutes later, wearing
the green jacket.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
So he played that joke on him.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
At east Lake, and JT kind of quotes it as
one of his best memories of you know, of Tiger
doing that, and he said he couldn't exactly remember what
year it was.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
He said, maybe like twenty twenty, but he said him
and Tiger are talking and you know, when they were
at east Lake. He hung up, called back, and it
was just.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
What I got on.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
Yes, So I thought that was pretty funny. Yeah, and
then we already kind of talked about the.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
What else do we talk about here? Hold on me notes? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
Oh, PGA Tour released their twenty twenty six schedule, which
includes nine signature events, so that always brings up and
I always like talking about the discussion of the signature events.
Has your thought process on that changed at all? Do
you still like that?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
You? You know, what do you feel? Let's talk about
that a little bit.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I mean, I think those include don't those include the
four majors? Those nine tournaments?

Speaker 3 (40:29):
I think that is cract It's like five.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Plus the four majors. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
don't like what all the money has done. It kind
of kind of screws up the one and done pools,
to be honest with you, because certain tournaments had way
too much value. You know, as far as the money
is considered, they're they're worth more or as much as
major championships. To me, that's screwed up. But whatever, But.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
In real life.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
They're worth a ton, you know for these guys, Oh
not more than the championships. But so I could, I
could see that, But I just think from a talent
perspective and seeing what we're seeing, if these type of
signature events were in play Ben Griffin, we wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Be seeing him right now. He wouldn't be in this
situation if this is how it was his rookie.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Year, right. But I don't like the no cut events,
to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
No, Yeah, it's you know, you're just safe going into that.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Like, you know, I like that no cut event if
I'm one of the players playing that is in that
top fifty him playing in those, but I think Lucas
Glover and I'm not going to have the exact quote,
but he said it best, like, no, you don't you
don't have like let.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
The best player that week like find their opportunity. And
you know, the fields should be based on performance, not
just you know, overall performance of the entire week, if
you will. So right, yes, and then yeah, do you
want to talk a little bit about Ryder Cup. There's
some more discussion.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
I got a lot of Ryder Cup stuff here.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Actually, yeah, let's talk about it because there's some really
great stats with the you know, obviously the six are
locked in and then the rest of Team USA is
up to kegs.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
They're still talk about him.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Everyone was saying like if he would have won this
past week, then he would auto like have to be.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
You know, a playing captain, if you will. And I know,
I really liked our.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Discussion last week because even Moose and you brought up
some really great points, and you know, I highlighted some
things with the extra media, Rory's take everything else on
whether we think.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
He should play or not.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Well, he's number eleven now in the standings, Okay, so
he's kind of dropping down there. I thought that Maverick
McNeely locked up a position. He's not a captain's pick,
but I think he's going to be picked. And I
think he should be pick based on how well he
did this week.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Was it you were or Moose last week that said
no MAV, I.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Was no mav until what he did at the BMW.
You know, I mean you got Scheffler, Spawn, Schawflet, Henley,
Bryson and English harrisingles are the locks. Okay, they're they're
They're They're in and Spawn's been playing great. Shawtly stinks
right now. He can't putt He's an absolute disaster on
the Greens. He's got to be able to figure that
out in the next month. And I guess he's gonna

(43:08):
play out in the Napa Valley event. I think. I
think a lot of these guys are going to try
to play to stay somewhat fresh so they don't have
basically a month off. But he needs a lot of work.
Henley's really good. Bryson, we know Bryson and Harris English too, Uh,
you know, should be fine. Then it's J T. Colin
wore Ben Griffin, who I think is a lock. McNeely

(43:32):
I think now is a lock. I don't think Keegan plays.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
I'm with the just right now.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
It'd be really hard for if I'm putting myself in
his position, and I'm Keegan and you're Ben. How am
I gonna say that I'm more deserving of this spot
than you, You know, when I'm when I'm not as
hot as you right now.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
I mean, unless he finishes in the top five at
the Tour Championship, I don't think he can. I don't
think he can put himself in the team because there's
I mean, Cam Young has a win recently, Okay, can
play that golf course really well. Burns has played well recently,
and you know, Scotty Scheffler wants Burns to be on
the team because it's not about an all star team.

(44:15):
It's not about the top twelve best players. It's about
a team and how they can play together.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
So Sam Burns rallying here in these last couple of weeks,
I think is gonna make him a pick for Scotty Scheffler.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
He has eleven top twenty fives, five top tens, zero wins,
but twenty two in world rank.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
And he bombs it and he's a great putter, and
he has.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
One two and zero Ryder Cup record.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, I think he's in. I really do.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
I love to see, you know, Ben Griffin.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
I think you know, strokes game total one point one
two three two wins, nine top tens, fourteen top twenty fives.
I mean, and just seeing like that little clip I
talked about it last week on social when he was
like walking into you know, like.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
The recovery trailer if you will, or warm up trailer,
and he's seen Keigan walking down. He's like, what's up? Captain?
He kind of like looked at like the camera like
who that is?

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Bump. I'd bumped more Kawa before I bumped Ben Griffin.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Right now, I'm in that same boat with you.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Okay. I don't know what happened, what has happened to him.
Maybe he'll change caddies for a sixth time before the
Ryder Cup. I don't know, but it's not.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
That too. Like I said, Scotty different caddy too, right.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Well, yeah, but now Ted's going to be back for
the Tour Championship. I understand.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
You know, he's come back and check a paid collect
another paycheck real quick.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
He was.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
That's what I said he could.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Scotty should have pulled the ultimate flex and just pulled somebody,
you know, a local caddy at the course or somebody
and just been like I can win with Bennett on
the bank.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah right, Bennett. He likes that guy. That guy's caddied
for him before. When uh when Ted Scott had to
leave for the graduation a couple of at the PGA.
Yeah exactly, So that'll be back to normal this week.
But yeah, you look at this Ryder Cup team, like,

(46:06):
I don't know Novak, no way he makes it. He's
playing he's playing poorly again. He played great in the
beginning of the year. Can't lay is a question mark
to me. Maybe I don't know, but I just don't
think Kegan plays Brian Harmon.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
It's crazy that Can't Lea is ranked number twenty three
right now because I feel like he's been just so quiet.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Really be done doing nothing, nothing at all.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Yeah, what about got her up?

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Uh No, I don't think so. I know he made
it in the top thirty and that's terrific unless he
pulls out, you know, like a top five this week.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah, these are just names and discussion.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
Ricky followers also mentioned Jordan Speed obviously, but if it's
like if you're trying to put Jordan or Ricky in there,
and I know Ricky was you know, he's.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Been playing a little bit better. But when you have
players like MAV, like Ben Griffin, you know, what do
you think about JG.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Well, he's going to be on the team.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
He's not laying great seven four and two Ryder Cup record.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, he does have a great record.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
It's one of the world, ranking number five Ryder Cups,
less number seven. He has a win this year, seven
top tens, eight top twenty fives. It's hard to argue
with somebody who has he's on, putting him on.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, yeah, he's on, he's on. But you know, mag
Ma McNeely, I think locked it up. I don't think
Heaven plays. I think he puts Cam Young in there
or and burns for himself, and he probably bumps out Harmon. Yeah,
probably Harmon, probably yeah, probably Harmon.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Yeah, that's probably wild.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
It shakes out now. The European team is much more complete, Rory.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
They always seem like a little mac intire.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Yeah, Fleetwood, Rose, Hatton and Lowry are are the locks.
And then you get Straka, who is kind of he
got hurt. I think he just missed the BMW, took
the week off. Something might be wrong with him, but
has played terrific golf this year. Rasmus Hoyguard his stock
is down right now, but he's on the team. Oberg

(48:06):
is coming on at the end of the year. He's
kind of been, you know, in neutral, but he's starting
to play better. Hoveland his stock is rising. And I
think Wallace gets bumped for John Rahm and then Fitzpatrick
is the twelfth guy. That's the way I think it
shakes out. I don't think Harry Hall makes it ye

(48:27):
unless he you know, wins this week. And yeah, if
he wins this week and wins the FedEx Cup, he's
on the team.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
Yeah, I'm being number one in stroke, skin putting right now. Actually,
just if you guys didn't see ahead of Brad's Instagram,
I told him.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
I was like, Harry's just you know, he's we talked
about it last week. You know that's probably yeah, and
shot shot the most.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Rounds in the sixties this past season so far to date,
and I'm just like, you know, another guy that's just
been trending and kind of quietly. So I posted this
video of brag got him number five at Eastlake, simple short,
little putt, but looking at his putting stroke and everything else,
and we said, what do you notice about this setup?

Speaker 3 (49:06):
What did you notice about it?

Speaker 5 (49:07):
Because I asked, what do you notice about? Well, I'm
asking you first and then I'll tell you the answer. Well,
because I had to identify it myself and ask him. Well,
Brandon like said it too, but I.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Have a longtro short through the ball? What was what
was it?

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Well?

Speaker 5 (49:22):
For me, I just you know, I've known Braden, worked
with him so long, so I know what he says,
and I know what he's preaches, and I know what
he says to his players. This continuous motion, right, so
he's being athletic. Continuous motion. You walk up to the ball,
you're kind of moving. You can see Harry kind of
has his hand on his thigh, he moves his feet,
kind of settle again, he looks once, kind of re grips,
looks the second time, and then goes So we can't

(49:43):
break it down more into the stroke and everything else,
but continuous motion is something that Brad always talks about
and just being athletic and feeling good and then kind
of goes there talking about not continuous motion, but just
coaches approaches and everything else. I was over at Admiral's Cove
today and I got on the force plade and Mike goes,
all right, set up to.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
The ball, and I go to set up, but he
had the ball, like I thought.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
He kind of just threw the ball in front of
me and it felt too far away, so I pulled
the ball back and I'm sitting there on the you know,
standing there on a swing cat and he goes, oh, no, second,
he goes moving this.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
He's like, let me move this ball or whatever. He goes,
the ball's out of the picture.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
He goes, close your eyes and just set up, pretending
the balls like right there. And I said, okay, I
close my eyes and I set up, and he goes
open them and he goes, you're you're sitting up with
the ball way too close.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
And it was wild. Just sometimes he's small.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Little tinkering, you know, little things where it's like set
up how it feels natural. And I did, and when
I opened my eyes, you know where I previously was standing,
I was standing way too close to the ball, and
where I naturally set up was like perfect where he
initially had had the ball. And I was like, wow,
I know it's such a simple tip still, like those
little things like that little putting drill I said last week,

(50:54):
and it's like, okay, I remember Dinda the one time
said to me, he took a broomstick and he goes,
put your hands down to your side and he like,
put the roomstick to me.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
You get just cat grab it with two hands how
you naturally would. And I went like that. He's like,
that's your grip, that's your natural grip. Like work with that.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Base it off of that, I was like, it's this
little small little tips to kind of stick with me.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Most of the things these pros work on involve stuff
before they take the club back. It's about set up
and grip and alignment.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
And Jason Vale says, it's about doing the things, doing the.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Normal things extraordinary. Well, you know, like you're going back
to fundamentals and set up and everything else. Yeah, did
you look.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
At Live golf at all? Did you did you see
what they now?

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Do you have some stuff to tell me?

Speaker 5 (51:41):
I know, well, Bryson was commenting kind of on like
Ryder cop is that the other thing? But and I
did see that, you know, they had a tournament, but
I didn't see any drama.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yees Sebastian Munos, who's been on this podcast, I was
a guest a long, long time ago, just before you
went to Live shot fifty nine on Friday. He birdied
twelve of the final thirteen holes.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
And he actually he's a twelve of the final thirteen.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yes, yeah, he shot fifty nine, and he beat John
Rahm on Sunday in the first playoff hole to win
the tournament. Okay, but ram ends up. This is the
end of the individual season. This was the last tournament
in Indianapolis. Ram ends up winning the individual honors on LIV.

(52:27):
Now get this. With no wins, he has five second
place finishes and a bunch of top tens. I mean
top tens in a field of fifty is playing three
rounds is no big deal to me? Yea, But he
ne didn't win once. He had actually four runner ups.
Wack O'neman won five times this year out of the

(52:50):
fourteen tournaments or whatever they play, and didn't win Player
of the Year. Now, how fed up is that? That's
more screwed up than the tour itself?

Speaker 5 (53:00):
No, Harry, and forgive me if I didn't follow fully.
So Joaquin won five times but doesn't win?

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Now? Is this this a flawed, broken system with.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Left I don't know.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Is voted on.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
No, no, it's not voted, it's points way they do
their points. It's whatever. Yes, it's ridiculous. Ram apparently feels
like he was asked about it and in the post
game or whatever, and you could tell by the way
he was talking about it he felt weird accepting it,
Like there's no nobody on that tour if they were
to vote, they would have all voted wack o'nem and

(53:34):
would be the player of the year, and including John Rahm.
I guarantee, Yeah, it's so stupid. Yeah, but anyway that
that happened, they have their team championship now in Michigan
this week and then the live tour for this year
is done. But I just had to get that in there.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
That was just so No, Yeah, that's important, and that's
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Speaker 1 (54:22):
Terrific. Now we got to talk about this US Amateur
because I watched actually more of that than I did
the regular course walk to the Olympic Club, I cadded
on that, did you really?

Speaker 5 (54:36):
Oh yeah, So USGA four ball it was their their
first year. Brandon and pat Ross had meddled and at.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Where was it?

Speaker 5 (54:46):
I don't even know where the qualifying was, Like I'm
losing it right now. But anyway, we went out there
and I was I looped for one of the rounds.
But you know, that's San Francisco, whether bipolar, it's you know,
certain parts of the course or eighty degrees some of
them are for it's.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Guys are wearing fleeces in August and oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
And then you take it off like you know what,
when you're by the or it's all full, you know,
Parker by the water, and then you get up close
to the clubhouse You're like, maybe I can take this off.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
What fog rolls in and oh it's majestic.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
It's cool. It's awesome looking golf.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
But Mason Howe, he went full tire, dominating the final
seven and six to become the.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Third youngest champ ever. He locked in.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
He's locked into the twenty twenty six Masters, the US
Open and the Open too.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
You heard Harrington and down again in the mix. John
Daily two was cool.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
I mean, it's it's funny you're watching him. He's like
a spitting image of his father. Just kind of seeing
the demeanor, even the golf swing a little bit. He
John Daily two made a little bit noise, and you know,
like I said that that course, the Olympic Club course,
is reminding us, like why this event matters, and just
kind of I mean, let's get into it.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Let's break a couple of things down.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yeah, I mean, you know, Mason Howe, you said he's
an eight teen year old committed to the University of
Georgia going up against Harrington who plays for Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
So nineteen year old standards a final. How about that?

Speaker 1 (56:09):
And uh you mentioned the third youngest. But Miles Russell
too was a guy that I watched in the first
couple of rounds. I think he made it through the
into the round of sixteen. He's sixteen years old. He
just committed to Florida State. He's just a joy to watch.
He's going to be a phenom. Oh, you know, bar none.
But you mentioned John Dale the second this Nile Shields

(56:31):
Donegan Cat, the Scottish dude from Mill Valley, California, which
is just across the Golden Gate Bridge.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Okay, that local crowds.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Crowds support was ridiculous. It had practically the entire golf
club that he plays out of was on the golf
course drinking and yelling. It was it was.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Insane, Like it kept me hooked and interested and everything else.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
Because at first I'm like, wait, what's with this guy
and why him? And then I was like, oh, okay,
he's like from Mill Valley.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Like balls blas started figuring out. But it was like,
you know, they even cut to the side and then
he was like thriving off. He's like this is just awesome.
Like it was cool. It literally felt like you know,
like some type of football or basketball like Final Four
like it was. It was like inject out in my
veins every week. That was cool.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
That it was really cool. But you mentioned the US
Open Open and the Masters for the winner. Jackson Harrington
finishing second gets into the US Open and also the
Masters as well if.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
He stayed nineteen years old. Yeah, so really good stuff.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Did you have a burger dog when you were out there?

Speaker 5 (57:36):
That's the signature it is, I know, and a lot
of people were grabbing them, and we've talked about that
a few times.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
They look to that signature stuff.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
But I don't eat bee for pork, So I didn't
have the burger dog.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I know, I know.

Speaker 5 (57:51):
But even talking to you, well, you know what, I
do have to be fully transparent because I know I
said I don't eat bee for pork, but I did
just have a couple of bites of steak for dinner.
I think, like, since my daughter's been born, my mom's like,
you're feeding her steak and you don't eat it whatever.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Like, I don't think I'll ever eat like pork again.
I just think yuck.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
But it comes from I had really bad food poisoning
from a burger with bacon on it. So that's why
I put all of those out, and then I went
full on vegan.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
All that dumb stuff. Well, I'm not going to offend
anybody that.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Full on vegan and he hasn't won since.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
Well, you know, after I went vegan, I was like, okay,
now I can't live on carbs, and I started introducing stuff.
Back then I was pescytarian, then I was chicken, and
now I've introduced steak backs.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
What is pescatarian officially?

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Oh okay, I like, yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
But then, but then you could, you know, high risk
of mercury. But you know, you can't do anything right, Harry.
You know, it's like everything in laderation. And hopefully you'll
live till you're ninety five. I don't know, or maybe
you want to live to your eighty. It depends eighty,
depends how these next couple of years go out, you know.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
But yeah, all right, So we got the Tour Championship
coming up. We got to get to that, and we
did forty million dollars in the perse. This isn't the
that doesn't include the bonuses. There's all kinds of bonuses
for the regular season one hundred million dollar bonus distribution
for the regular season, and the playoff bonuses. And then

(59:15):
you get the forty million dollars total purse for the
thirty players at the Tour Championship. The money is absolutely insane.
It really is. The winner gets ten million as just
for the tournament, second place gets five million, third place
three point seven three point two two point seventy five

(59:35):
three five the final player DFL number thirty and three
hundred and fifty five thousand dollars to finish last. How
incredible is that?

Speaker 3 (59:46):
How many of those ugly watches that Rory bought with
his first paycheck? Could you buell?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
I saw him today, DFL.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I saw him in an a press conference. He didn't
have the big omego or rolex on. He had a whoop.
He was wearing the Whoop band.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
That's part of his partnership. I think he's actually partial owner.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Don't quote me on the oh yes, major investor.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Yeah, but you know what, I love the whoop.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
I actually when I was in my most fit. I
know the or ring's kind of a thing. Now I
could possibly entertain that, but the whoop is just so great.
Shows you how terrible drinking is for you and your body,
your sleep, your recovery.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
But I don't Also, I don't want the whoop.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
It also though, like it was so good for me
because I'd get a workout in and you know, I
think I like worked hard and it's like, yeah, your
strain's only at like an eight, and I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Like, wait, what you know?

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
And then it's like all right, well then maybe I
have enough energy to quick go do another walk or
a mini workout or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
I mean, that's just more my personality. But I think
the whoop's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Well, I just got all those numbers from our buddy
Ryan Balangie at golf News Net. He had a big
article on it. It's the largest payout ever on tour
for this year's Tour Championship.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
So yeah, play.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
We'll have to post those numbers on social because if
you run those numbers back, would you say, a thirty
million dollars person.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Forty million dollars just for the tournament just for winner.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Gets ten mil?

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Yeah, three fifty five or something. Yeah, it's insane.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Wow, that's a lot of a lot of cashish.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
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nineteen oh four, Donald Ross came in and really put
it together in nineteen thirteen. They've had some renovations with

(01:01:49):
Rhys Jones and Andrew Green recently, but it's a par seventy.
They've been fluctuating the par too over the years. In
this tournament they're back to a par seventy seven thousand,
four hundred and ninety yards. The average greens are sixty
two hundred and forty square feet bermuda grass. The collars,
approaches and fairways though are Zoyja grass. I would love

(01:02:10):
to I want to play on Zoyja one day so bad.
I keep telling Moose it's like putting your ball on
a mat. The rough is bermuda though, and it's like
three and a half inch deep, So that's you don't
want to be in the rough seventy eight sand bunkers,
five water hazards that are in play on eight of
the holes. Only two par fives number six and eighteen.
Four par threes two, nine, eleven and fifteen, And there's

(01:02:34):
two par fours on the course that are over five
hundred yards Number one and number fourteen measures five hundred
and thirty yards for a part four and that first hole.
Rory has a devil of a time on the first
hole because it's ob left. There's like a road and
a fence that goes all the way down the left.
I've seen him put it into the neighborhood twice, I believe,

(01:02:56):
off that first hole. So that first hole does not
set up up well for some of these guys. It's
I think it's obviously a par five to start for
the members, but they make it a long par four
for these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Yeah, but yeah, I remember talking about that last year.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
I think, yeah, I should ask Brown to get a
video of that and just see visually how that sets up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Yeah, I'd love to see that. But you can see
the Tutor clubhouse behind me. I think that's eighteen, you know,
par five, which these guys will easily reach it in two,
so it's just a really cool spot. They don't have
the stroke advantage like Scotty doesn't enter, you know minus
ten and Rory minus eight. They got rid of all that,

(01:03:37):
so it's not you know, they borrowed that from the
NASCAR Series for their playoffs two years ago. I never
really liked it. I don't know that there's any real
fair or equitable way to do it that incorporates the
regular season and how well you did to give you
an advantage. I don't know how to do it, but
at least they got rid of that because I didn't

(01:03:58):
like that. So anyone can win, like number thirty got
her up. Who I think is number thirty, Harry Hall
is what twenty seven to twenty eight he could if
they win the tournament this week they win the FedEx Cup.
Think about that wild one good week. That's what you
always say, right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
That's always one good week. And you know when you're hot,
you're hot when you're playing well, and you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
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And I'm looking at JJ Spawn in my one and
done because basically he's one of the He and McIntyre
the two best players that I've got left. And I
just think that McIntyre, he doesn't have a great history
really on Bermuda, and I just think he might be
gassed from last week. He gave it his all and
got beat and died. He wanted to break his clubs.

(01:06:14):
I heard him after the tournament saying I'd like to
smash my clubs, like he's really upset. So I'm taking
Spawn and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
He's been I mean what He's just in a playoff
two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Oh yeah, lost to Justin Rose in Memphis. Yeah, And
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Yeah, sets up for him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Plus one fifty in the top ten. The numbers are
way down because there's only thirty players in the field.
He's plus thirty three one hundred to win at Bett Parks,
and then I'm going to take Victor Hovelin in a
top ten. I just think, you know, he's played well,
really well here. His iron game is starting to improve.
He's looking to get in a groove for the for
the Ryder Cup plus one twenty five in a top ten.

(01:06:52):
I hope Scotty wins it because if somebody else does
win it, it's really kind of a travesty because he's
the best player to be the Player of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
In my view, we have some live situation, right yeah, right, right.
But when you said that and you're like, imagine if
you know number thirty wins, like yeah, I'm just like, wait, huh, yeah,
I mean, Scotty's not Player of the Year. I don't
even know if if I was alive these past ten months,
like what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Rory's a close second because he got the Grand Slam,
he won at Pebble Beach, which it was an elevated event,
he won the Players, and he won the Masters, but
since then he's been kind of Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
But it is the entire player of the year, so
we do have to look at the whole duration of
the year. And then I guess if you put up
Scotty's five wins versus Rory's and we're looking at it
on paper, I think my vote would probably have to
go to Rory. But when you're this fresh off of
Scotty just winning what two days ago, and you know

(01:07:50):
it's just Scotty being Scotty. The way he's played, it's like,
I mean, ultimately he's the player of.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
The heere that's tough. I don't know where my vote
would be. Who would you call Scotty? Yeah, yeah, it's
hard not to. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
All right, Well that's going to wrap up this episode.
Moose will be back with us next week with a whole.

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
Way Next week we might be in person, so Harry you,
Moose and I were heading the Cobbs Creek with the
TDR Foundation, so we'll be spending time with the kids,
talking about podcasting, showing how golf connects with media opportunities,
everything that ties into Tiger's mission of using golf and
education to create like real strong pathways industry connections. You know,
we were talking about Moose and what he gets to

(01:08:34):
do in this world and the game of golf and
everything else. So getting to connect with the kids and
talking about that great reminder of how this game just
builds community beyond the course and everything else. So excited
to be with you guys in person.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
Check out Cobbs Creek feet on ground and I'm sure
we can get some content show our viewers gonna what
it looks like with some Instagram stories.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
What day is that?

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
It's on Tuesday, this upcoming Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
All right, we look forward to that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
You have a full day because I know you're there
and then I think you have your show that you
record after and everything else. So we're going to be
heading up to Pennsylvania this upcoming weekend because we're in
year five of then Invitational, which is I don't know
how I blinked, and it's like year five. So obviously,
as you know, our listeners know, it's a pro format

(01:09:17):
benefits a Jenet Wize Children's Hospital and other local foundations
in the area that Brandon grew up. Supports the Play
Yellow initiative. You know, each year we try to double
and raise our donations.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
It's just been an incredible success so far.

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
Last year we introduced the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
The Gala, which was involving the community in ways that
they could still support if they weren't playing golf. So
weekend schedule looks like the Harmony for Hope, which is
a dueling pianos event. It's Friday night. Tickets still available
for that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
That's September Friday Night.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
I believe right that is.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Correct, yes, and that's Friday night, can't miss event. If
you guys are in the area or want to take
a drive up there, get some tickets are still few remaining.
We have a record setting as fast as it's ever been.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Registered.

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
Full field be on a full field wait list everything
for our Saturday Sunday pro am at the Country Club
of Scranton, which is something that we love. We've seen
Kata and Roy play and this Ben Griffin one our
first every year, so we've had.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Some really cool names come through there. Brandon loves that aspect.

Speaker 5 (01:10:25):
I love that aspect that the pro purse supports these
guys to continue chasing their dream. Pat Patrick Shean has
committed this year, so excited to see you know, those
local connections coming through and you know, providing an opportunity
for him and other players as well.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
So anybody listening can head to Nepevitational dot com for tickets,
to donate, help support our calls, or any extra info
and you know, if anybody has any specific questions, they
can DM me. They just might not get a reply
toll after a little bit, just a little.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Bit, all right, Well, outside of that We got the
Sadie Hawkins Tournament this Saturday at the nineteen twelve Club.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
And stayed busy over there. Huh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
So hopefully, hopefully the putter can come around. It's been
really bad for the last couple of weeks. Got a
little bit better at Stonewall North over the Did you get.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Any any swag there? I love that cow logo.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
No, I've I already had swag. I've been there a
few times.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
So did you E didn't take my putting tip?

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
I told you to warm up with the little tea
behind and trying now, No, I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
I didn't get to the putting green prior I came
in hot.

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
Yes, he's like, I'm putting terribly, but he doesn't even
figure out the speed of the greens or he had
a warm up put ahead of going out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
That's the way it is.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
To be.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
We'll see you next week from Cobbs Creep and in
the Cobs Creek and in the meantime, just get out
there and swing it and ding it. But listen, swing
it and ding it.