Swing It & Ding It: Episode 246

Joined by 3 time PGA Tour winner Jim Herman! Great stories on his golf journey and help from a pretty famous friend. Scotty’s warm up includes getting his 19th PGA Tour Win. The Tea with D sponsored by Wear SPF, The Course of Course and See The Line with BetParx!

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Speaker 2 (00:24):
You just got to get out there and swing and
ding it. Yeah, you know, just guess it's going to
go out there and try to swing it and ding it.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's right. Welcome in to swing it and ding it
and iHeartMedia podcast. This is Moose along with Daniel Matthews
and Harry Mays. We are sponsored by Buy My Balls,
bet Parks, Wear, SPF and Rita's. Talk more about Rita's
When it comes to our outing, you might have something
special going on with those guys are trying to get
the deck, trying to get the truck there. Oh, no

(00:54):
idea for the event, so we'll see. But we are
joined by another great guests. I'll tell you what. Harry
Mays usually doesn't, you know, care too much about people.
But when Harry saw this guy at the at the
turn it's scraning, his eyes lit up.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
He was like, dude, it's Jim Herman. We got to
talk to Jim, and Harry doesn't usually get too excited
about anybody. Welcome in, Jim Herman, welcome to swing, and.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Thanks for having me. Yeah, that was nice Harry got me.
I was trying to get a hot dog and maybe
maybe an alcoholic drink, trying to conquer those greens at Scranton,
and here we are.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I think you were making the turn from four to
five to go across the road right and we were
coming back the other way.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
That's a move. That's where I.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Just made a nice berdie on four and then made
a nice bogey on five, which I'm sure many people
do to par three.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, well let's let's start there. Obviously we saw you there.
What would you What did you think about scrating? Had
you played the played the course before?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
First time.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, since I moved up here, you know, three four
years ago. A good friend of mine, Nick Sarelli, he's
always playing in Anipa, and uh, he's like, we got
to play. You gotta play, you know, Walter Travis, you know,
I love golf architecture, golf history. He's like, you got
to see it. So we finally got up there and

(02:19):
it did not disappoint so man it you know, there's
there's no way to you know, uh say that they're
gonna rival you know, Augusta National or things like that,
but goodness gracious, they were something else.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Those greens make you think, They make you want to,
uh be a little.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Cautious, know your golf balls going around the greens, and
uh they had him they had them up. I'm sure
a few days prior before the weather came in they
would have been a little unplayable.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
But we were totally Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
That was our fifth year and unfortunately we always you know,
I think it's probably because Harry's in the area.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
We always have terrible weather.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
But the.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
Club championship was a week before and uh thirteen won it.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
So thirteen over thirteen.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Over yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Which is wid yeah. And Brandon was so excited.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
The greens were running and Aaron had it in such
a great condition. He's like, this is amazing. And then
we just kept getting hit with rain. So that's typical
for the Northeast. You never know what's going to happen.
But your first time playing in Anita Invitational. Thank you
for coming out for supporting the mission and being part
of it.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
What did you think of the event?

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, great, great job, Brandon. Brandon's a great man and uh,
raise a lot of money and uh, you know, that's
that's what golf's all about. We we someone's helped us
along the way. Everyone's everyone's had help.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Along the way. It's always good to get back and
that's so that's what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
So Brandon is.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
A good man and was happy to play.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
I final was able to get up there.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Appreciate that. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, Well, tell us about you know, where you are
right now kind of you know.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
Maybe two years at two plus years out.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
From maybe a Champions Tour eligibility. What's your status, what
are you looking to do? What's your schedule look like
for the rest of the.

Speaker 7 (04:18):
Year and early next year?

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Jim sure, Yeah, be forty eight in November and you know,
a good no man's land for professional golf. I played
three tour events this year and you know it goes
about like you would think for a forty eight year
old playing against twenty year olds, twenty two year olds.

(04:41):
That was played my last event at Wyndham, and you know,
got paired with Cameron Young for the first two rounds
and got to get humiliated, you know, for a couple
of rounds. But humiliation is you know what we do.
We think we're you know, as professional golfer as you
think it's the end of the world when you shoot
even are and someone's shooting six or seven under pars.

(05:03):
So you know, once upon a time, a couple of
years ago, five years ago, I guess.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I was winning, winning that tournament at Windham, and you know, it's.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Just that's that's what golf does to you. It's you know,
it humbles you. You know you think you can still
you know, compete and you know at the highest level,
and it's you know, there's very few obviously some of
the all time greats, you know, Phil Nicholson obviously winning
over at fifty, winning a major at fifty, you know,

(05:35):
is mind blowing. But yeah, there's a reason why, you know,
the golfer's tail off in their forties. But I was
very proud of myself, you know, having a late start
to professional golf, not getting out there, but having a
great career, winning.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Three times, you know, over the age of thirty eight.
It's pretty pretty amazing stuff.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
More than I ever would imagined and looking for to
you know, the last couple of years have been a
little rough. Haven't played the best golf, but you know,
enjoying the time when I do get out there, get
out on tour, playing corn ferry when I can.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
But it's been good being at home.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
You know, you spend you know, thirty thirty five weeks
on the road for ten plus years straight. You like
to enjoy your time at home. So I got children,
and it's nice being home with them and give them
back a little bit of coach a little high school
golf now, my daughter's high school. My second year doing that,
and it's nice, nice giving back, nice seeing you know,

(06:39):
nine hole golf matches, seeing the excitement on kids' faces,
you know, breaking forty. You know, we had my number
one player, he shot thirty five one under parts first
time under par in a match, and it's just just
wonderful to see. I remember my years playing high school
golf and it's it's just nice to see.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Well, let's take it back a little bit to that
golf journe and we're hoping it's going to end with
you being a Philly golf convert right where you are now.
But it didn't start that way. It started back in Cincinnati.
Talk about how you went from you know, liking the
game of golf and turning it into a profession and
then obviously having success and where it took you through
your life.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, I just started nine, nine, ten years old. My
dad was not you know, he was We were not
country clubbers. We were playing public golf in Cincinnati, you know,
just get dropped off like everyone else and go play
and just found a love for it. I was playing
all the sports, playing baseball, basketball, soccer, and but by
high school, you know, went to a great high school,

(07:38):
Saint Xavier High School in Cincinnati, and.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
It was not exactly the freshman year that I wanted.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I missed the golf team freshman year, did not make JV,
did not make JV, soccer, did not make basketball, did
not make baseball. So it was a rough, rough freshman
year for a kid that loves every sport. And I
still love every sport. I follow everything still to this day.
And uh, yeah, that was a rough freshman year. So, uh,
every other sport kind of fell off, and golf, you know,

(08:07):
was the main focus that summer. You know. Following my
freshman year, high school got you know, good motivation, was
able to make the jv my sophomore year, make varsity
junior year, and then senior year, you know, five we
had five seniors and we were able to win Division one,
the state championship in state of Ohio, and that was

(08:30):
pretty exciting. He thought maybe that could lead to some
scholar college scholarships.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Really did not have many offers.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
You know, Xavier University right there in town, preferred walk on,
but Cincinnati was gonna be the best avenue for me.
The University of Cincinnati's D one great. We were a
Conference USA. But you know, I was able to play
get you know, get in, played every event in my
four years at school, and just the journey was there

(08:59):
in college, you know, playing you know, just just the
love of the game, getting better, winning.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I think I won five individual tournaments in.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
College, and you know, by senior, my senior year, it's
you know it's two thousand year, two thousand, I've win
three or four of the best amateur events in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's like, I think I can probably make.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
A run of this.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
And you know, it's never easy.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Everyone, any professional golfer knows it's it's not not an
easy thing. You have the supportive family, friends, sponsors, so
you know, it was a it was a leap of faith.
Moved to Florida in two thousand and one and start

(09:51):
playing mini tours and that's just where the professional golf
journey began, you know, Golden Bear Tour four years near missus.
Can't get through Q school like most most people, you know,
thousands and thousands, five thousand and six thousand kids, boys, women,
you know, were going out for the UH for the tours,

(10:13):
and uh, you know whittles down.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
You know, you got to make your way and uh, you.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Know, twenty five at the end of the qualifying make
it and you're not it you restart.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
So long journey had assistant golf professional status.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
You know, I was an assistant pro for four years
after four years of UH being a mini tour player,
and you know, it's kept the dream alive. I was
still going to Q school and in the fall of
O seven, after I was an assistant pro in Florida
for two years, in New Jersey for two years, and
then fall of O seven, I finally got through second

(10:46):
stage of Q school and got my full status on
the corn Ferry, you know, as a nationwide tour at
the time. Now the corn Fery Tour and was able to,
you know, just start my professional golf journey then and
two thousand and eight and I've been playing professional golf
ever since.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
It was pretty wonderful. Sorry, sorry for We love it.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Yeah, we love it. We want to hear it.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
Our listeners want to hear it because it's not easy.
You know, it's not just a straight path. But after
you know, you kind of let us up to that
point where you know you were able to or your status,
what wins for you have been most significant or had
the most impact on your career.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well, at the moment, every win you have is the
most significant, right So, but in that journey, there's certain
times that there's certain puts, certain tournaments that you know
take your path one direction or the other.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
And that.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Second stage at at T School in two thousand and
seven obviously was the journey that set.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
My my my path to professional golf.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
I was at the Woodlands in Houston, Texas, and you know,
just like many many second stages before, I was right
on the bubble excuse me, and uh, you know just was.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Able to have enough cushion to you know, choke choke
my way in. You know, Unfortunately, I was.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I was able to you know, have enough cushion to
have make make the final.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Stage by a shot.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
So that that was huge, humongous for me, get you know,
status on the tour on the Nationwide Tour, and then
three years later I won on the on the Nationwide
Tour in Australia and uh, you know, setting my pathway
towards the PGA Tour the following year.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
So that was those two events were huge for me.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
All the people that don't know the story, uh, you
got to tell us how our current president uh figured
into getting you really sort of the the the boot
in the rear end that you needed get you onto
the you know, the PGA Tour and eventually winning on
the PGA Tour three times.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah. It's funny how you know, just how certain rounds
of golf and h people you meet, you know, inspire
you and help you out and motivate you. And yeah,
I was a you know, I thought my path was
over for the PGA Tour, you know, after four years
mini tours and uh, near misses and like most most golfers,

(13:31):
we have near misses, and you.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Know, I'd gotten the golf business.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
And then I took an opportunity which my wife and
I just got married in two thousand and five, got
a call from Mickey Gallagher and uh, trying to get
a job, asking me to be an assistant professional professional
at Trump National in Bedminster, New Jersey. Gets a lot
of fame.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Now it's obviously the summer White House, he's there quite
a bit.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
But yeah, so you know, the early into my time
at Bedminster, maybe April or so, he was coming out
and I played really well, first time I played with
with President Trump, and he's all into you know that
that first first moment you're with him. He never forgets,

(14:17):
doesn't forget anything. And I played really well, and it
was just set the tone for my time at at Bedminster.
And I was always playing golf with him, and you know,
through our second, third, fourth rounds together, you know, throughout
that spring and summer, just he had kept asking me
why why am I not playing? Why am I not
trying for the tour? And I'd go through this story

(14:37):
and I have and I missed, and he's like, well,
you're still You're still good enough. You gotta keep got
to keep at it. So you know, he was very
very supportive in that helping fundraise and helping pay the
bills for Q School and you know, near miss again
and my first year there and then that second year
at the club in O seven, I was able to

(14:59):
get through.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
And I you know, so much of that to President Trump.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
And so then I get on the tour on the
corn Ferry, He's you know, sponsoring me, and you know
that it was humongous, huge, terrible word to use. It
just so so so much of a shot in the arm.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
You know, you get, you know, have that financial backing.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
You know, it's very expensive playing you know, missing cuts,
missing cuts, missing cuts. It's nice to have a few
dollars in the bank to help pay for things and
take a little bit of the edge off. But yeah, finally,
you know, get to the tour and you know, I
remember twenty sixteen. I've been on the tour for four

(15:46):
or five years now, and we're playing golf together in
Palm Beach the week before the Houston Open in twenty sixteen,
and you know, just had a wonderful day with him
and and uh Dan, with Dana Quigley and you know,
a champion store and Dana was so supportive, he was

(16:08):
one hundred percent behind me, and it just takes. You know,
we're unfortunately professional golfers where we are mental midgets. We
are we are, we're so in the moment and uh,
you know, just getting a just getting.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
A that positive outlook.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
And I played so well with him that day, Dana
wished me on, I mean, and then just started making
putts and uh, you know that's that's how how wins
happened on the PGA Tour. You have to putt well
and confidence and I always drove the ball very well,
but uh, making putts that week in Houston twenty sixteen

(16:48):
was was the key. But uh, you know, just that
one one final drive on eighteen at Houston.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
You know, just have to believe in yourself.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
And able to you know, step up and do it.
And to this day, President Trump always remembers the Shelle
Houston Open. You know, he'll go through the whole back nine,
you know, the chip in on sixteen and you know,
having a two putt from about forty feet on the
eighteenth toll.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
And he's got quite the memory, especially for golf.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
What a story sounds like we might need to tee
it up with President Trump because we've seen that. When
I was doing some research that You've even said he's
been kind of a good luck charm with two of
your wins coming after rounds with President Trump. And I
heard he even gave you a little putting grip tweak,
like saying, hey, let's switch up your grip here for this.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Sure. Yeah, when I won in twenty nineteen, I was
injured for a little bit of twenty eighteen, kind of
lost my status. That was the summer of twenty nineteen.
My win exemption was over from Shell in twenty sixteen.
And we're playing at Bedminster, and you know, he tells

(17:58):
he's quite the storyteller. Everyone will know, and he tells
it better than I do. But we're playing and he's
currently the president of the United States in twenty nineteen, and.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
You know, I couldn't hit it.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
I couldn't hit the ball any better for a round
of golf, and I'm probably shooting one or two under par.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
I just won't make anything.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
He's just commenting, He's like, you're hitting it great, you're
hitting it great, but man, you're putting it's terrible, And
why don't you switch putters?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
You know you you know, I was like, I, sir.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
I've switched putters. Many times, like, well, just switch putters.
You know this one is clearly not working. You're hitting
the ball so well, you know, just you gotta switch
it up. Use mine here, and he gives me his
putter and I use his the rest of the round.
He's like, see it's it's working already, and he's like,
just take it with you. I's like, sir President, I will,

(18:58):
I will get one made. I was with betten Nardi Golf.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
And uh, we got a new putter made.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
You know. I pick one up the following week, and
so I go to uh it was a John Deere
and then I'm going to Barbezol the following week. So
I go to John Deere and I'm on the putting
green and I'm just standing there putting practicing on a Tuesday,
and see the betten Nardi bag right there, and there's
this putter. It looks exactly like President Trump's potter. I

(19:26):
mean it's identical, just made by betten Ardy. He was
using a Scottie Cameron. And you know, I just talked
to the rep. I was like, I need to I
need to grab this. I'm I'm not sure I'm going
to use it, but I mean there's a sign. It's
like identical, same back, same line. You know, everything looks
it looks identical. So it's like I grab it and

(19:46):
then of course, you know I don't use it. At
the John Deere, I missed the cut by a shot.
I think I missed a.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I don't know, six foot or whenever in the last hole.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
And you know, dejected, dejected a little bit, go to
drive from there to Lexington, Kentucky, and uh, tee it
up for the barbizol. But in the practice round, I
bring it out. You know, it's Tuesday, it's Tuesday afternoon,
playing a late practice round, and I was like, what

(20:19):
do I have to do? So bring it out?

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Start using it on the back nine, putting well, making putts.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
It's great. So I commit, you know, I make the turn,
I put my gamer that I had in the trunk,
you know, just one hundred percent committing to this putter,
and uh just a normal looking it's like a Newport,
Newport putter.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
That's gott he makes and betting Nardi calls a BB one,
so you know it's in the bag.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
You know, go to the back nine, keep practicing, making putts,
go to the practice screen.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Wednesday, morning.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
I'm not in the pro am. You just have a
good practice session, you know. Here we go, start up
Thursday morning or that was Thursday afternoon, and go out,
Bertie the first hole, make about a nice four or
five foot or it's always nice to make a make
a nice spot in the first hole, but make a nice,
nice Birdie shoots seven under. All right, here we go, leader,

(21:15):
was it eight under? Go back out Friday morning another
seven under. So fourteen under par through two rounds. Not
too bad. So President Trump is landing at Bedminster for
a weekend get away and the head professional, Mickey Gallagher,

(21:38):
who I'm still really good friends with, is there and
he tells the President that I'm leading and it's the
funniest line ever. And he's He's like, just so you know,
Jim's leading the PGA Tour event this week. And President
Trump's like, Jim, Jim, who is you know, are my

(22:00):
good friend Jim Herman, who you know I play a
lot of golf with. He cannot be leading a PJ
Tour event after what I saw last week?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
So do we have another gym that you're speaking of?
And so he's like, get him on the phone.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
So Mickey gets calls me right away and President Trump
is just a static and uh, you know, just wishing
me the best over the weekend, and it's.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Did he ask about the putter?

Speaker 4 (22:33):
So yeah, I got the putter.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
He's like, see, I told you just go just go
win it.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
You know, It's like it's that easy. But in order
we go to Saturday and uh, you know, I shoot
ten under, you know, just making everything So it's crazy
how how you know, just confidence and you know, believing
in yourself and having a wand that you believe in
uh s.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
On the bag sitting there.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah. So and then the final part of it, I
think on on Sunday, whether it's true or not.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
He tells me that it's true.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
He kept circling because we were delayed and he was
flying back to the White House, and he said, they
circled a little bit so I can keep watching the golf.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Until until till the final putt was hold.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
So I like that.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I like to believe it's true.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
But yeah, why not right? Yeah, So, Jim, that's a
great story. So as someone that was right in the
thick of it. When when a lot of the rumors
started about another league, another tour, what did you what
did you think when when the Live Tour actually launched,
and what do you think about where the game is now?

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yeah, I mean it was I mean obviously there was
so much you know, false information. We didn't know what
was going on on all the Uh the tourist stance
was so strong. You know, you had to kind of
just be on the inside with it, with through agents
and things like that. Uh, you know, to have the

(24:11):
inside knowledge if it if it was actually going or
if you were actually going to get in, you know,
some kind of invite to it, you know it in
the in the big picture, it was not great for
for professional golf. I mean great for the pocketbook for

(24:34):
a lot of players. But you know, it changed the
fabric of the tour. You know, everything's everything's money driven
now to to such a degree it's you know, we
don't even know what to do with the FedEx Cup.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know, it's it's just crazy, crazy situation.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
But I wish I wish it never could have gotten
to that.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I wish the you know, the the commissioner and.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
You know, the Saudis and uh Yasser could have come
to some kind of some kind of agreement.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Before the Live League would have started, and I think
it would have been better in the long run.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
But yeah, I don't know, you know, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
We'll see what happens. It's uh, it was good for
a lot of people. I just think the tour has
changed a lot in the in the last couple of
years and lost sight of, you know, the competition of golf,
and it's more about the exhibition and you know.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I don't know. Yeah, the golf is still needs to
be eighteen holes and you know, over four days, and
it's more about the competition.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah. Yeah, the cut the cut is huge. I mean
I've lived on that cut line forever and that's just
how you grow up.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
It's it's a it's a horrible spot to be but
it's part of golf.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, it's part of it.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
I couldn't agree more. Jim.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
I like to always close it out by asking guests,
what is your favorite Philadelphia area golf course that you've played?

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah, you know, Pine Valley is making a big run
for the top spot, but I've I've always loved Marion.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
I played the twenty thirteen US.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Open at Marion and have a really good friend who's
a member of Jayhaws and he has me out there,
uh whenever, whenever I would like to get out and uh,
it's my favorite I play now. I play most of
my golf at Indian Valley Country Club here in Telford, BA,
just north north of northwest of Philly, and I love

(26:41):
playing there. We got a great membership, great professional to
Thomas Link and uh, great spot. My son and I
we play so much golf. He loves golf and so
you know, outside of Marion, you know, Indian Valley's the
spot for.

Speaker 7 (26:55):
Me, a spot.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I got up there for the first time just a
few years ago my buddies at Old York Road and
they have a reciprocal evidently, and he said, let's go
up the Indian Valley and I'm like, we did and
we had the best time. That place is beautiful.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yep. Yeah, it's great spot.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, that's the last last question.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah. I think it's going to be hard to win
on uh you know, for the Europeans on the US oil.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
So I would say it'll it'll be very competitive. I think,
you know, the odds are.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Going to be pretty pretty even, I think, But I
still think boys, I think our boys are going to
do it.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Hoping and hoping to go on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
I think my son, uh and you know a couple others,
we're going to go over well.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
After you show Cam Young the way, you know.

Speaker 7 (27:47):
Right right right.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
I think whether I told it to him or I
was thinking, and I think I was playing with him,
and I probably told.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
My agent who was with me and Michael Wolf.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
I think I think I told him he's playing with me,
and he's like, this guy won this tournament five years ago.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I gotta I gotta get movements.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
And motivation comes in many forms.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
You know exactly exactly.

Speaker 7 (28:11):
Now, do you watch much golf when you're not playing?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I mean, yeah, yeah, it's it's hard to uh, you know,
I do. I'm a golf junkie. I love golf.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
I love sports.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's sporting exactly. You have to you have to love it.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
So you know, all my all these years that I
was out there, I mean or trying to get to
the tour, I loved watching golf. You know, all these
magazines I read, Freddie Couples, Ernie El's, you know, loving
Tiger Woods. So when I was in the mix, it's
it was awesome being in the locker rooms, being there
pinching myself.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know, I won that first event at Houston.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
And then having a players meeting a couple of weeks
later at you know, Quail Hollow and Ricky Fowler were
just sitting there.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Ricky Fowler throws me at beer. You know, well done, Champ.
You know, it's like that's pretty cool. You know, do
it three times, you know, play all the majors.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
But now to have my son. My daughter dabbles with
golf a little bit, but she's more into field hockey
in softball. But my son's he's a he loves it,
and he's been in the locker room. He's been on
the on the you know, just qualify for the US
Open last year at Pinehurst and you know he's out
there getting photographs with Bryson and Rory and I'm trying

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to do my best to not shoot eighty on the
on the hardest dollars I think, I.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Claim revendous stuff. Well, let's see if we can get
you in trouble real quick, though. Have you converted to
an Eagles fan?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Now that's gonna be a tough one.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
So obviously Bengals, you know, Bengals still number one, you know,
definitely one be definitely Eagles last. This last. So a
couple of years ago when the Eagles were in the
Super Bowl in Phoenix, you know, I'm playing here at

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Indian Valley. I'm getting all this, all these all the members.
You gotta put on an Eagles jersey on sixteen. You
gotta do it, you gotta do it. And the one
guy gives me a Kelsey jersey. So I went to
the University of Cincinnati, Jason. Jason worked to Cincinnati. I
was like, all right, well, my Cincinnati of fans and
family won't totally disown me if I put this jersey

(30:26):
on because it's Kelsey jersey. But I was having a
bad day on Saturday and I was playing with Ricky
Ricky Fowler, and I just couldn't do it. I was like,
it was right there in the bag, and uh, I
just sometimes when you're having a struggle, you don't want
any more attention than then.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
And that's the biggest attention getter whole of all time.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I was there, I saw I saw you that day.
I was there, I was there in the area.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
It was right there in the bag. I should have
just put it on, but uh, yeah, the Eagles are
fantastic I mean, what an organization there.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
They're just doing so many great things.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
I mean, and jail and hurts and uh, you know,
it's great to watch, easy to watch, and you know
the Phillies obviously, we love watching the Phillies. Here. My
Reds are hanging in there. There are two games out
trying to catch the Mets. That would be really nice.
I know that all the people here in Philadelphy don't
want to play.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
The Mets again, No, we hate them, So it's great.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Great Jim, there's some other Cincinnati Bearcats in the past,
Brent sell it and was a great eel, so a
lot of bear Cat Eagles connections.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
A lot of bear Cat Eagles, So we'll take number one.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
B Yeah, there was a chance there.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Was a chance it was Bengals Eagles and the Bowl
for a couple of years straight.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
That would have been.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Fantastic.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
With all good doing this man.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, we appreciate appreciate that time. Thanks, yeah, thanks for
joining us. Good luck to your you know, your family,
your son. If he's going to continue doing what he's doing,
hopefully maybe we'll see you up in beth Page. If
if we get up there and hope to run a
new run into you again soon. Maybe maybe not at
a halfway house, but maybe.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Somewhere else the worst places.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
It's true, Yeah, hopefully it is there. Actually. Yeah, thanks
you about appreciate your time. All right, let's take a
quick break. We'll be right back. All right. Welcome back
to Swing It and Ding It. Great to chat with
with Jim Herman. Just by chance running to a guy
next thing, you know, he's on the podcast giving us
incredible stories. Yeah, you know, it's it's funny. It's like

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we see so much of and if we talk to
guys at the NEPA, right, or we talk to guys
on this podcast, like to win three times on the
PGA Tour, like I mean that is you're you're in
rarefied error at that point, right, Like that is just
incredible And and knowing how many what they say, five
thousand people are going for it every year, Like to
get to where these guys are is one thing. But

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the pick up a trophy in a PGA Tour event
with a cut, yeah, four days of golf, it's a
whole nother ballgame. And kudos to him for doing that, right. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
I loved a couple of different points that he pointed out, saying, like,
you know why he didn't love live because he respects
the cut.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
He's lived and died on that cut. And you know,
the going through going through Q school, grinding that out.
They say it's the hardest interview in the world.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Who else has to go through an interview like that
with several different stages, with several different cuts.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
It's it's a grind.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
And what these guys do mentally physically, day in and
day out, it's just crazy. So I love when you know,
we have guests that can talk about that and go
in depth with their experience.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I went back and looked through his entire career and
you know, three wins obviously on the PGA Tour we
talked about.

Speaker 7 (33:47):
He had one on corn Ferry.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
He had twenty three top tens and sixty eight top
twenty five between.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
The two tours.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Some great playing thus far, and.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
He's still playing, and I guarantee he's going to be
out there on PGA Tour champions I was just gonna say,
you'll have a couple of good years right out of
the gate.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Oh you asked him about it.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
He kind of sounded like, Hey, we're just gonna chill.
I'm gonna be a dad and you know, help my
son a little bit. But as soon as he crosses
that age threshold, I think we we got to keep
our eye out on him.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah. That calendar circles for sure, no doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Seririe, how many days on my birthday?

Speaker 7 (34:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Well, a lot of guys in that mix probably had,
you know, a nice fall event circled for a chance
to maybe get get their first PGA Tour win at
an event like the pro Cure, and then all of
a sudden comes decides he's going to warm up for
the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Yeah, what do you think when you see that he's
like in the field, and you know what I.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Mean, It's like, did he really need a warm up?
If I'm one of those guys, I'm like, this really
need to be here? The other guys are fine, Does
he need to be here?

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (34:47):
Seriously, it's like that I've heard before, like people used
to say, like, oh, Tiger's in the field. I guess
we'll try for a second place. I mean definitely. When
you see Scotty's name, now you're like.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
All right, yeah, gets win, gets win. Number nineteen goes
far under sixty seven. Only Tiger Jack and ar Arnie
are the other guy since nineteen sixty to win at
least six times in consecutive seasons. Yeah, so, I mean.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
You know.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
It has to be a little bit. Uh. I think
it was. It was Alanto Griffin by he said like
or one of the one of the guys said like, yeah,
it was great. I wish he wasn't here.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Yeah, exactly, especial Orlando, who's one out there before and
has had some success out there.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
He's probably just stay home now.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Good for him. He went from uh, he went from
one forty two to one hundred, right, so really put
himself in position Lanto to uh to keep things going.
So good for him. The other Ryder Cup guys, obviously,
Ben Griffin gets himself right there. I hate that he
missed that putt, man.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
People are like, yeah, this is really good. Is gonna
get him ready for the Ryder Cup. I'm like missing
a butt at the end. I wish he didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
He made a free putt bogie on fourteen as well,
and then missed the six foot or on eighteen, which
could have put a put him into a playoff.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Yeah yeah, JJ spawn was in six, Cam Young T nine,
Sam Barns T thirteen, Russell Henley nineteen. So some of
the guys all made the cut.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
JT and Moore Kawa did not play very well, but
they made They made the weekend.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, the guys that you would like to see get
more of the warm up. Yeah, and maybe they were
working on something there. Yeah, he knows.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
I saw this on Twitter, Kyle Porttery. You know that
Phil Mickelson tweet that didn't.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Age well at all. So here's a hot take.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Does Scotty win in twenty twenty five before the Ryder Cup?
I don't think so well. Since that tweet, Scotty has
won fifteen tournament. Part of me has been in fifteen tournaments,
fifteen top eight finishes, six wins, two major championships, one
hundred and ninety six underpar forty five rounds in the
sixties and a cool twenty five point two million prize money.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
So fifteen straight top eight finishes, how about that?

Speaker 6 (36:48):
Yeah, So yeah, that's that's not a Phil tweet, but
that's the Scotty tweeting.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
And then you had Jackson Coyvin, the amateur, the number
one amateur in the world, the kid from Auburn was
just coming off that Walker Cup and he rolls up
to NAPA and finishes T four.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
How about that was cool? Unbelievable. Yeah, it really was
a lot of talent. Man.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, an Ben Griffin, I know he didn't win, but
what a year he has had, man, unreal, right, I
mean yeah, you know I saw he did that that
thing for the NEPA. You know, I saw the video.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
That was so cool. You know, it was a year
he's had.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Yeah, and that's what he said.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
You know, he he's like, hey, like you guys watch
the video, but he's like, you know, appreciate that everything
you've done and the opportunity to win.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
A person like that, it kept my career going.

Speaker 6 (37:38):
I won the first NAP Invitational and he donated tickets too.
I believe it was Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Sunday, which
for the Ryder Cup. Yeah, he's like, I'm gonna give
you some of my tickets, which you know helped raise
some great money for the charity. So yeah, shout out
to Ben Griffin just just shows you what.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
You know, a class guy.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
He is absolutely.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Very easy to reply.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I think he's going to be a crowd favorite too.
At beth Page with the classes, there's gonna be a
lot of people with the aviators in the crowd. I
might have to bust out a pair if I get
up there.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
YEPF and the aviator.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
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Speaker 6 (38:23):
All right, let's spill some tea. John Daly did some
John Daily things this week. He put up a nineteen
yes one nine on the par five twelve at the
Sanford International, so seven balls into penalty areas before finally
finding the green.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
You would think someone was following my round of.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
Golf, but somehow he ended up still breaking ninety So
new PGA Tour champions record for the highest score ever
on a whole.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
And that's something that I.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
Feel like only JD could do and make kind of
entertaining for us to talk.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
About it on the pod and chairs.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
And ta we can relate considering I put up a
ten on a whole over the weekend.

Speaker 7 (39:01):
We'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Oh okay, ten on a ten?

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Well, guys. A big Master's update.

Speaker 6 (39:09):
Augusta National just struck a deal with Amazon Prime Video,
so starting next year this upcoming of the next year's Masters,
US coverage on the Masters gets four extra hours, so
more Azalea's, more AM and Corner, more drama, and yeah,
I think it's it.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Is pretty awesome.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
But the only thing that I want to point out
is Golf TV setup and does it really make sense?
Because I saw that Kyle Porter had pretty perfect take
on this. Imagine like a Dolphins Bills game on Thursday
night where the first quarters on Prime, the seconds on Peacock,
the thirds on that Flix, and the fourth is on NBC, like,
because it's kind of what golf.

Speaker 7 (39:46):
Is it already?

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (39:47):
I mean, just watching the Master's episode good seems.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
Is so good?

Speaker 7 (39:52):
Yeah, yeah, but I.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Mean there's there's tournaments on ESPN, Peacock, and NBC all.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
On Surturday night football and yeah, but different like hours
where you have to switch through. I mean, I guess
if we're streaming coverage all day, but you know, great,
we get more Masters, But if we could just get
it all in one place, which like Moss said, the
Master's at.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Right, two hundred and four days, ten hours and sixteen
minutes until they tee it.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Up, who's counted me? I just saw what was I
don't know.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
It was yesterday today, like one hundred days till Christmas,
and I was like, oh my god, that is why.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, it was one hundred days to Tiger Woods's birthday.

Speaker 7 (40:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
Crazy.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
Well here's a wild one from the US mid Am
Paul Mitzel lost a playoff because his caddy took a
cart ride. By rule, that's an automatic loss, so the
match was over. Now that makes sense on PGA tour,
where your caddies should know this rule book inside and
out and you know, know what they can and cannot do.
But I want to ask you, guys an amateur event
or some lower level tours where you're basically asking a

(40:53):
buddy to loop for you or hiring somebody week to week,
should the rules really.

Speaker 5 (40:58):
Be the same or do you think there should be
some type of fly ability with us?

Speaker 7 (41:01):
I think that rule stupid.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I mean, how about a warning?

Speaker 5 (41:05):
Right?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
How about hey, just so you know that's if you
do that. I mean, come on, it didn't affect the
game of God, Like, come.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
On, there's so many stupid rules.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
There is a lot of stupid rules. I remember being
on the bag for Brandon one time. I was so
nervous and I remember.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I would be patrified.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
He's like, don't put the bag down to that hazard area.
You can't do this, you can't do that. And I'm like,
oh my god, I don't want to.

Speaker 7 (41:23):
Do anything, like you're paralyzed.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
You're going to do fear, yes, And I was just
so nervous.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
And I think I've told this story so many times,
but I was in Savannah one time and it was raining,
and I'm like, this is not an easy job, Like
there is so much that you have to do, think
of and make sure you're not doing, and that just
it just sucks for for Paul Mitzel losing uh, you know,
a playoff because of his gaddie taking that just.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Yes, really brittle.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
Justin Rose says that Team USA is trying too hard
to be best buddies, while Europe's bond runs deep. They're
built on history and identity.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
So do you guys think that you know he's onto
something there or is he just trying to stir the
pot or is it kind of just I'll.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Tell you that Terrell Hatton t shot today one of
the guys farted. It made me think that maybe they
are tighter than anybody.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
I couldn't bring that up. I had to leave that for.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
You, guys. I mean the way he stopped his shot
and just lost it. And it's such a short video,
like you want more, like you want to know who
did it, but it's so great. Oh my god, when
is never gonna stop? It's never gonna say it's.

Speaker 7 (42:34):
Never not funny. Yeah, wouldn't you love to play.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
Golf with him, like around golf with your especially after
that story that we talked about last week with like
after he found out he was on the Ryder Cup
and kind of they're they're.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
Partying and was it like a strawberry marguerite.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Six classes of wine to start the start the evening.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 7 (42:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Yeah, Well we can.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
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they'll trend into the rest of our pod here.

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Speaker 3 (43:31):
So if I just ready to headline it said Charlie
Hullbirdi's two out of three to win the Queen City Championship, Right.
Should we just leave it there or about should we
talk about the rest here?

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Wow?

Speaker 7 (43:43):
I mean she finally got a win.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I mean she's been trying to knock one down for
so long on the LPGA Tour. She's doing great, she
you know, if she wins, more like hopefully this opens
the floodgates, as they always say when some guy gets
a win, because the LPGA Tour needs Charlie Hall at
the top and winning events every now and then. She
would really do a lot, you know, to promote that

(44:05):
tour and you know, ratings and everything.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
She's but someone else has to say how she actually won.
I can't say the words. I think it's gonna jinx
me even more.

Speaker 7 (44:12):
What titikon?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, she four putted on the eighteenth poll. She's the
number one player in the world, a tie a titakin
And it was unbelievable. I mean, from like a foot
and a half goes right by the hole. I couldn't
believe it, and you know, Charlie stepped up to her
credit and knocked her putt into win. Because after you
see a great player like that miss a couple of
shorter putts, you're like, oh my, that's the last thing.

Speaker 7 (44:35):
You want to see.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (44:36):
You have to go up? Yeah, what's up with that hole?

Speaker 4 (44:38):
You know?

Speaker 7 (44:39):
But yeah, titikon, that's how you.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Pronounce it, like me and Greeney and the member guests.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
Yeah, the LPGA Tour made some big, much NATed changes
to their Q school. So Stage one used to be
on one site with three courses and about three hundred players,
expensive travel, really tough prep, like, especially for East Coast players.
So now it's three regional sites in Cali, Texas, and
Florida on a single course, so less travel, lower.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Cost, and kind of way more fair in my opinion.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
So I think it was overdue and it's kind of
good to see some some smart changes like this happening
on all tours.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
And apparently Charlie quit the SIGs and of vape everything.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
She's back off the darts again and she went and
she got the win, So maybe it comes.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
After quitting and drinking, smoking, the everything.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Because she had quit and then went back. I had heard,
and so she's back off of it again and now
she's won.

Speaker 7 (45:31):
So yeah, you're right, she probably stick with it.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
Yeah, Wow, offers her head cases, so you know she'll
stay off of it.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Until it was great to hear him say that, because
that's so true.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
But yeah, since you're talking about other tours, Alex Norn
won that BMW p g A over that in Europe
and England and in a playoff, and you know Fitzpatrick,
Hatton and Hoveland all finished T five, So you have,
you know, some of the other guys for the European
Ryder Cup, you know, playing some good golf.

Speaker 7 (46:03):
I know Rory won you know in.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
The previous week and the Irish Open, he he made
the cut. He didn't play particularly great, but I know
you saw Patrick Reid's name up there too, pretty high
up on that leader board. And Harry Hall finished T thirteen.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Yeah, and Norton's vice captain too. He brings the trophy
right into the Ryder Cup. You know, party room with
those guys too, so they're just like feeling winner.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I heard Charlie Sheen's interview today, just keep thinking winning. Yeah,
you know, then how about the vibes at the Legacy
Club in nineteen twelve over the weekend. I mean the
vibes were high. The vibes were high, god the member guests.
How about how about you?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Well, the vibes were high on Saturday for the first round,
and you know, I went out and I actually had
the lead through the first six holes. I was, I
didn't know it yet, but then I went and put
it in the left bunker on the par three seventh
and it took me two to get out, and I
made five and that would drop me, and my playing partner,

(47:02):
Brian Spiegelmer says, you know you were in the lead
until that last hole.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
I'm like, ex yes, yeah, some information we don't need.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
But I made six pars and a birdie and made
a ten on the eleventh hole. I put it in
the hazard and then I put it in a green
side bunker and it took me three to get out.
They dumped a ton of sand in all the bunkers,
and they're just I can't play them.

Speaker 7 (47:27):
So I put up a ten and speaks.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
We get to the next hole, he goes, was it
really a ten, I go it was a ten, like
he almost like wanted to give me an eight or
a nine, you know, and it's.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
Like, no, it was a ten.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
But I still shot eighty nine with a ten on
that hole. So I played some really really good. God
I came back and made par on the next hole
and then made two, made a par on fifteen and
a par on seventeen, which is the second hardest handicap
hole on the golf course. So I thought I played
really well even after that disaster. Then Sunday came and

(47:59):
in the first hole I had to take an unplayable.

Speaker 7 (48:01):
I was stimmied behind a tree.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Off the tee left right left up near the up
near the fence, into the border of the property. I
think it bounced off of that and it stuck right
behind a tree.

Speaker 7 (48:12):
To take an unplayable, and.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Then I had to take one because I put it
and it bounced off the card path and went in
the hazard on five, So there's two unplayables in the
first five holes.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
I was done.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
I was out of it, and I just knew I
had no chance to win it. So tougher day on Sunday,
But all in all, I thought, you.

Speaker 7 (48:28):
Know, some good things.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, yeah, Brian Lyden won it.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
He might be listening to them. Okay, he played great golf.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Good on you. Yeah, but uh, the the big old
member guest at Legacy Club, I mean it was a
tremendous event. Me and Greeny go out day one on
Friday and go three and oh and honestly, we didn't
play particularly well. It's what we kept saying to each other, like,
we didn't play pretty well. We just scored when we
had to. We you know, the old ham and eggs,

(48:58):
that's important that eight hundred times in a memoric as
it all just becomes comical, but it's truly what happened.
And we were sinking some putts and it changes everything.
For Friday night is typically when playing these things, we're
out of it. So we just get hammered on Friday night.
So we were like responsible. We were home by like
nine thirty, you know, sat by the fireplace, had a
cigar in an old fashioned and just watched the guys

(49:20):
that were out of it just get toasted and came
out Saturday. We were at nineteen and a half. The
team we played first round Saturday was at eighteen and
a half, one behind us. We knew that that was
the match, right, Whoever wins that match is going to
move on. And Greeney and I just couldn't putt. Like
we were close, it was, it was really close. And
then in the last couple holes, I think we we
were down two with two to play and we're on

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thirteen the uphill hard par three hire going back into
the clubhouse. If you remember, I forget if we went
first or they went first, whatever it was. I hit
it to like twelve feet Greenee hits it to like
fifteen feet back of the green. They go long and
left m hm, and uh, we missed our putts wet

(50:06):
both of our lag puts left some meat on that
bone and we missed. We missed the comeback and push
and pushed the hole and you know, and that was it.
But we had to have missed in that match, like
nine to ten putts within six feet between the two
of us.

Speaker 7 (50:21):
That's very frustrated.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
That's where you had the hole in one with to
win the car when the truck or whatever it.

Speaker 7 (50:27):
Was right on that hole. Right.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Yeah, it's a tough ho It is such a hard hole.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
It is like you can't miss right there either. With
those bunkers in that hill. I mean that's a really tough.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
And like I've never been long on that hole. Like
it feels like you could never have enough club right here.
What you hit, you always feel it because you always
the way you're looking at it, you feel like you
have to help it with your mind. And uh, the
pin was like kind of it was kind of like
in the middle, a little bit left. But that green
is very difficult.

Speaker 7 (50:57):
The green.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
The greens were a lot of slope on that thing.
Yeah they were. They were great. But the course was
an incredible condition. The staff there did an unbelievable job
the whole tournament. The food, I mean just first class.
The gifts they had those for the guests. You know
those ridge wallets, they're really nice, wild with an engraver
out there and he engraved the guest name right on

(51:17):
the with the Legacy logo on the ridge. So cool.
A lot of good stuff. So yeah, thanks to the
Legacy Club staff, Greeney and I are getting him. My
goal is to just make a shootout. Now, having said that,
I go I stick around to watch the shoot out.
You go right back to that whole thirty there's one
hundred and fifty guys and he's got like you know,
Greeney said it too, like legacy club membership is it's

(51:40):
a fun group that these guys are. These guys are animals.
And I can't imagine taking that shot.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
I would have had to take a lot of shots
at tequila before that shot.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
But war I got to give a shout out to
my wife who finished second in the women's division the
nineteen twelve Cup.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
So all I know, congrats. All I know is the
eventual winners of the Member guests. The guest had the
Pine Valley logo. Oh, they did the member logo, the.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Member logo where it doesn't send Pine Valley Crest.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
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All right? So what do you think? In any more
thoughts on Ryder Cup? I know we talked about a
little bit. The vibes are. Where are you guys at Danielle?
Are you right now? Give me winner loss? What are
you thinking us? Team?

Speaker 5 (53:50):
I mean, I'm just American.

Speaker 6 (53:51):
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Speaker 1 (54:06):
It's gonna be interesting to see who they pair with
Bryson on day one. I've heard some saying you got
to put Scotty with him and send them out first.

Speaker 7 (54:16):
Moose.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
You talked about, you know, Bryson hitting that first t
shot on I don't.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
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Speaker 7 (54:22):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Like Russell Henley with me, you know, like who cares?

Speaker 4 (54:26):
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Speaker 5 (54:27):
When do we find that out?

Speaker 1 (54:29):
You'll for that day, probably close day before I think
the day before maybe, which would be Thursday. But that's
gonna be interesting because you remember last Ryder Cup in Italy,
Scotty was brought to tears when he and Brooks kept
got housed by Victor Hoveland and lud lud nine and seven.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
By the way, those you know, those outfits they were
the other day were horrible. They're third, but Ludwig lack
great in it, by the way, I do. Somehow that
guy still looks great.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
I didn't see it.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
What, like it was so bad. You take a look
on social media, like they took their team picture and
it's like their practice. But the European stuff is always
so bad. It's always so tight. Oh it's so Yeah,
but Ludwig looked like the man.

Speaker 7 (55:13):
Yeah, yeah, he's twenty four. He ought to be here
whatever he is.

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Speaker 7 (56:06):
Was, like what DO i do with?

Speaker 3 (56:07):
HIM i don't Want he said he could put me
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Speaker 7 (56:09):
HOLE i don't want to do.

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bit of a clinic, beforehand which will be a lot of.
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(56:30):
course maybe like you hit him with a paintball.

Speaker 7 (56:37):
Tag.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
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know the creative juices are.

Speaker 7 (56:41):
FLOWING i.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
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the back with a.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
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Sorry i'm an idea. Guy i'm Just i'm just white
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(57:10):
yeah maybe there's a code word you have to you
have to say to get him, right to unlock. Him
he's like a video game. Character he just he stands
there like that and then you unlock him.

Speaker 7 (57:18):
And he comes.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
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Speaker 5 (58:00):
Friends patterson coming, back be actually talking to him.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
TODAY i know why Because west wants to get on
a good golf course when he's, here so he's he's
trying to call in all. Favors he wants to try
to Play Pine valley when he's, here And i'm, LIKE
i can't help. YOU i get you on a couple of,
courses BUT.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
I got to share.

Speaker 6 (58:14):
THIS i Hear brandon pick up the phone and he,
goes but if you're going to talk About marion and
text me about, it you stop saying.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Married you got at least spell it.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Right he called text or. Something, Oh brandon's, like It's.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
MARY i didn't HAVE i didn't have the heart.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
To correct the movies two nights and didn't say first. Thing,
Well he's, like you got to learn how to spell it.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Right keep keep an eye On west of social. Media
he's he's gearing up for an event right. NOW i
just saw him On. INSTAGRAM i mean he is annihilating
the golf ball. Again, YEAH i mean he you, know
he's working With Mike, navy AND i believe still and
you see that little bit of a stack and. SILT i, mean,
dude he looks. GOOD i, mean you watched his video.
Today i'm, LIKE i can't wait for him to get back.

(59:00):
Competition he's firing right, now so he's excited. Too but,
YEAH i can't. Wait but thanks again To Jim, herman
and next week we'll be we'll be doing A Ryder cup.
Preview at that, point, absolutely that's, exciting very. Exciting It's
Ryder cup. Season thanks for, listening thanks for. Watching see
you next. Week, listen swing it and ding.

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