Swing It & Ding It: Episode 248

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Speaker 2 (00:24):
You just got to get out there and swing and
ding it. Yeah, you know, just guess it's going to
go out there and try to swing it and ding it.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
That's right. Welcome into Swing It and ding It and
iHeartMedia podcast. This is Moose along with May's and Matthews,
and we got to figure out what the heck went
on up in New York. So we had to bring
in our friend Jeff Eisenband PGA Tour Live, Serious, x
MPG eight Tour, I Zone Golf, great podcast. Make sure
you check that output that in the library along with

(00:53):
Swing It and ding It. Great content there, Jeff, Welcome
back to Swing It and ding It.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I I'm glad to be here. I still remember you
know I I was on your Guys show two years
ago and you said that I was I was more elusive.
It was harder to get me than Shane Bacon and
I took that to heart because that meant that I
was being way too much of a diva. So I've
tried my best to not be such a diva since then.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
We appreciate that. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
I'd like to have Shane on right now. He just
had that hot take.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I don't know if I started acting Shane's being a
diva turned.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, Well, lots of hot takes and lots of reason
for hot takes for what we just witnessed. And I'm
still processing, and I'm sure we all are, you know,
especially because of the way it ends. But in the end,
you have a fifteen to thirteen victory. But it's one
of those things where it sure did not feel that way. Jeff,
you were out there on Friday. Just give your overall

(01:47):
kind of recap. We'll get into everything, but I have
it all bullet there's no notes. There's bullet points this
week in prep, so we'll get into it all, but
just just give me your kind of overall thoughts.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's one of those things I was thinking during the
middle of singles. One day, my grandchild is gonna ask,
what was the twenty twenty five Ryder Cup? It was close, right,
It's like not for two days, but it was at
the end I think the biggest story because I know
the crowd became a part of the story and I
was and Harry knows this because we talked about it before.

(02:18):
I was among those out there saying this is going
to be electric. New York fans are the most knowledgeable
fans in sports. This is going to be such a
great atmosphere. There's so much hype. Everything's going to go great.
And what we did know was New York fans. And
I know we could talk I'm one on three, but
we could talk about Philly Ben pillans.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
We're so much more mild mannered in teams. This worked
out so well for us this weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Man, if you are if you are winning in New York,
the New York fans will get behind you like nothing
you've ever heard before. If you are losing, I speculated
they might turn on the team. What happened instead, I
think that these fans showed up. And I was there
on Thursday. On Friday morning, we were so hyped everyone

(03:05):
the place was just buzzing, and I know Bryson hit
the first shot and the place was just electric. What
a scene this is going to be this amazing atmosphere
for the Ryder Cup. And the first session you're up one. Okay,
second set, let's get him back in the afternoon. Second session,
you're up one. Third session, you're up. On fourth session,
you're up one. I'm sitting there on Saturday night thinking

(03:25):
I've been waiting, like Keegan Bradley over a decade for
the Ryder Cup to come to New York and this atmosphere,
and we might not win a session. You don't get
another Ryder Cup unless you're Hazel team. You don't get
another Ryder Cup for like thirty years, forty years, maybe
to your city. And then Sunday everything seemed to finally
come together to give us this incredible, incredible ending. But

(03:48):
for two days everything went wrong for the US.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
It really did.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
And one of the things we have to talk about,
you said in New York and how those fans are
and how knowledgeable, but let's all talk about how you know,
rowdy they are in the crowd behavior. Tom Watson called
US fans and mean spirited. He even apologized the team
Europe Rory's wife hit by a beer or a beer
thrown at her. You think, Bethpage, crowds across the line

(04:15):
or is that just like Ryder Cup energy.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, I think that Rory summed it up best
at the end of the week when he said it
was not everyone. He said, most people that came here
came to experience the highest level of golf, you know,
arguably the best event, the best fan event in golf.
And I think that, you know, I think fans in
New York, like Philadelphia are knowledgeable sports fans. They know

(04:39):
for the most part what's going on in golf. They're
showing up with a purpose, and I think that there
were certain people that took that feeling of this is
the Ryder Cup. I can insert myself into this match,
and the way that I'm going to do it is
by being as antagonistic as possible. Rory also said during

(05:01):
that singles match against Scotty on Sunday, he heard more
people trying to antagonize him then cheering on Scotty Chef.
And that's my biggest message to American fans going forward
at Ryder Cups, President's Cups, whatever it may be, support
your guys, like support the team that wants to hear
you speaking positively, because we saw it, especially on Saturday

(05:24):
Justin Thomas trying to, you know, quiet down Justin. I
believe it was Justin Thomas and Cameron Young trying to
quiet down the crowd. Just it became a side show.
The crowd wasn't helping. The crowd was just doing this
weird sort of thing that they were trying to draw
reaction out of Ray, who, by the way, absolutely balled
out on Friday and Saturday. And the biggest thing to

(05:47):
me was listening to what was said there. And I
could only speak for Friday. It sounds like Saturday was
a little more vicious. There are just some things. There
are things personal things that you just don't. You don't
to people. You don't talk about Rory's family, his marriage,
some of the other topics that have been reported to
have come up. And it made me think a lot

(06:08):
about Russell Westbrook. In the NBA, there was if you
you know, if you guys followed the NBA a couple
of years ago, there were some the NBA started cracking
down on fans in the front row who were basically
trying to get a rise out of players in a
way that was just going too far. Whether it was
you know, the language, but also trying to actually touch players,

(06:31):
whatever it may be. You know, there was the guy
in Philly that flipped us off. You might remember, oh yeah,
the double bird. The report there was and the message
at the NBA sent is just because you buy a
ticket doesn't give you a right to be a jerk.
And I think that's the message to golf fans after
this is just because you buy a ticket doesn't mean
doesn't make you doesn't doesn't allow you to be a jerk. Now,

(06:53):
I will say this, if the US was winning, and
I'm not putting the blame on them, but if this
was more even through the first two days, if it
wasn't like these fans just waiting to waiting for a
trademark moment to cheer about, I don't know if they
would have been as antagonistic as they were, but I
think they were just so riled up, ready to go,

(07:14):
and they got nothing.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's almost like people forget that they're not on social
media at times these days. I hate to sound like
an old old head, but it's like it just seems
like the way people act on social media is now
carrying over to real life, and they know that nothing's
going to happen. If something happens, they're gonna get on
camera and they're going to become famous. This is a
terrible right, It's just a terrible way to go about it.

(07:37):
And you know, you know I'm reacting first in the moment,
like I'll come on, he's soft. But then you start
to hear some things you're like if that were me,
like if ever anybody Like it's just yeah, it's just way,
way too much. You know.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
It's like old Miss Students section that's behind the right
field they're like rumored to be the worst in history.
They do research on all the right fielders all through
out the year and they bring out every possible thing
about their dad, their grandparents, their wife, you know whatever,
and it's it's brutal, all.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Right, Jeff, Where did it all go wrong for Keegan?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Was it the morical English double down? Was it the
course set up with the low rough inability to really
find a great partner for Scottie?

Speaker 5 (08:23):
What was the Where did it go wrong for Keegan?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot to point to,
but let's go talk a little bit about those team sessions.
I think it's easy to just go right to Colin
and Harris running them back. Everyone will talk about Data
Golf listing them as the one hundred and thirty second
best pairing out of one thirty two fourteen USA, and
we saw it twice.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
I put out my mind.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
They wanted another chance. It's like, Keigan, you're a father,
you know it, Like you don't give me a second chance.
You know what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
When I put out my power rankings last week before
early in the week last week and I listed England
eleven and Marikawa at twelve, because those guys were trending
the wrong way headed into the Ryder Cup. So I
think some of that has to be identified. And I
know I'll speak out of two sides of my mouth
because I think what Europe does really well is they

(09:15):
create these pairings well in advance. These guys know who
they are playing with, who they should be practicing with,
who they should be focusing on months some of them
before they get to the Ryder Cup. So I think
it's easy to blame Kegan in that sort of way,
but I think finding the right partners and getting ahead
of the game would have been I think the biggest

(09:37):
thing that the US has to work on over the
next two years. We have this mentality. It seems like
with the US Ryder Cup team that don't get ahead
of yourself. You're not on the team until you're on
the team, and then we find out you're on the
team three weeks before the Ryder Cup and we start scrambling.
In Europe, I mean, Tommy and Rory have known, they've
been playing together probably.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
For two years, right, whole team.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
So I would love to see and I would say
there are six or seven guys who you can essentially
put on the next Ryder Cup team bearing unless something
crazy happens, they will be on the team. So start
getting those guys to start working together, playing together, start
start trying to figure out those pairings ahead of time
in the future. I think that's one thing that went wrong,

(10:18):
and just the overall we talk about it's so cliche
about Europe the camaraderie, but to me, Europe knows that
they're If you're the twenty fifth guy on the points
list at the beginning of the year, you're a long shot.
Europe still makes you feel like you're part of the team.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
You see Matt Wallace crying at the end when he
just knew that he just narrowly missed the team, and
he was probably sitting on his couch cheering for his
European mates. I feel like in the US, right you
don't make the team. I feel like our guys like, ah,
well you know what, like good luck to him?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, And I think they're doing butterfly kisses on the
green Tommy and Rosie. I'm like, what do we do?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's European.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Just love each other a little bit more than we do,
you know what I'm saying, Jeff, I don't know if
we can get there. I don't know if us, in
our in our US brains can get that close.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
My wife was just watching videos on social media before
I got on, and she's like, I don't see any
of our guys singing on a bus right like the Europeans.
But that's not what it's all about. You talk about
the pairings that could have been done better, done better.
It's easy to Monday Morning Quarterback because Scotty and Russell
Henley right going in, we all thought that was going
to be the reliable pairing and it wasn't. But I

(11:32):
look at for example.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Russell saw a ghost in that the first time out there.
You know, you never know how that's going to hit
you your first Ryder Cup, right, Jeff, Like it's you don't.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
If you don't, you don't And it was different, and
I still don't think you. I think you need to
come with a plan of Hey, there's these are some
potential pairings that could happen, right. You never want to
have the Tiger Phil situation where Phil's on the range
learning Tiger's golf ball, like right before they're going out together.
Or you know, Ricky Fowler was sick in the last

(12:02):
Ryder Cup, they had to change up some things. Scotty
and Brooks all of a sudden find themselves playing together. Yeah,
two of the great major champions of their era, but
they don't necessarily aren't feeding off each other the same
way that you would expect. So you need to come
with prep in terms of what could potentially You need
to be able to be a little light on your
feet of your keg In Bradley, but you have to

(12:23):
come with at least a plan. I thought, for example,
I thought Scotty and Bryson were going to play together
both four ball sessions, and they did in the second
on day two, and probably if Justin Rose didn't go
absolutely bonkers. There's a good chance they win that match.
I would have liked to see those two players play
together twice, and not because oh, let's just put the

(12:43):
two best players on the team potentially together. That's not
what this situation was. They played together four years ago
in Whistling Straits. They know that they've been in that
arena together before. And I think it was a late
reaction to put them together on Saturday. And maybe you
left a half a point or a point on the
table if you would have put them together on Friday.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Jeff, I want to get back to the course because
to me, you know, we probably were all dying to
see what Beth Page Black was going to be and
they made that thing into nothing. But you know it's
funny too when when the guy you have stuffed in
the envelope plays more matches than some of the other guys,
you gotta be able to question that too. But do
you think that this could have gone wrong way back

(13:24):
with the PGA of America making the choice over over
course correcting with Keegan as captain. And I think it
was a reactive move seeing seeing the groundswallowed people that
were like, what the hell are you guys doing that,
They almost just like went so far that it was
too broken to rebuild in two years and expect them
to build this back together and win.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Are you talking about the course in particular the leadership of.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Tea No, sorry tabling the course for a second. I'm
talking about the leadership. I'm talking about deciding to make
Kegan the captain, blowing the whole thing up essentially and
expecting it to be fixed in that short, short of
a time period because they were being reactionary to people saying,
what the hell are you guys doing? You're the old
boys cut.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I mean, there's a lot of talk, right we had
we the United States had not lost a home Ryder
Cup since twenty twelve, and that was the miracle at Medina. Right.
There are a lot of ways that that could have
gone better for Team USA, and we could have been
sitting coming into this Ryder Cup saying, hey, we haven't
lost at home since two thousand and four. So I
think if something's, you know, not broke, don't fix it.

(14:24):
I don't think that Keegan. I know Keegan's getting a
lot of flack. I think that he definitely rallied the
guys more than Zach Johnson did two years ago. It
definitely feels like Keegan bought into the job as a
two year job. He felt this sort of connection to
best Page Black. I do think he has a connection

(14:45):
to the PGA of America within his family. And even
though he did you know, he mentioned right after right
that he has a complicated relationship with the Ryder Cup,
but he cared and I think he handled all the
publicity in a much more savvy manner than Zach Johnson
did two years ago. And obviously it's different when you're
the home captain and you have to set things up.

(15:07):
It's hard because, like I'm dancing around this a little bit,
but what I am saying is that I don't think
we had the United States had had any problems in
home Ryder Cups coming into this. I mean, Whistling Straits
was an absolute beat down. But I do give europe
a lot of credit because this is not the European

(15:28):
team from the nineties the early two thousands. I mean,
these are twelve guys who played this year predominantly on
the PGA tour, and I do think that's important because
Bethpage Black, even if you set it up hard, even
if you figure it out, it's still an American style
golf course that is very similar to the profile of
golf courses that these guys play constantly.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
And they live. Jeff, it drives me crazy, like it's
always going to be a present. Yeah, they're leaving far
and soil. I like, you know what foreign soil is
to Rory Northern Ireland, right, you know what foreign soil
is John rom Spain. At this point, like they are like,
no excuse, it's it's it's how it is, It's where
you're from. But this is what they play week in
and week out, like this is their life.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
It is true. Shane Shane Lowry said something interesting that
going back and playing on the DP World Tour, in
his case, playing in Ireland, playing at Wentworth. I mean
some guys right, fits went back Rasmus Houigyard. They played
four weeks or so in Europe that you know, Shane said,
everywhere he'd go in the crowd, there was a lot
of go get him. At Beth the Page, right, there
was a lot of support and the guys felt like,

(16:30):
I mean, these are the little things that Luke Donald
does right, making all those guys go play Wentworth to know,
to remind them when they go back to their home
in the US that this is this is the kind
of where they grew up, this is what they're playing for.
But my point is that there's not that home course
advantage necessarily. I think Europe will have so much more

(16:50):
of a home course advantage at a dear manor in
two years in Ireland, which isn't necessarily a links course,
but just the entire European arena that you all are
talking about. That all twelve of these players from Europe,
including a player like Ludwig Olberger Victor Hofflin who came
to college here recently and went right into the PGA tour.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Or the guy with the southern accent from.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Vienna de Belldosca. Not a regular path, but you know
he's done it that I still think they're going to
feel so much more comfortable than certain guys the team
USA sends over that just have not been in that
sort of environment. And I'm not talking about necessarily the
fan environment. I'm just talking about the Irish air, the coolness,

(17:35):
the crispness that you're going to see in late September
and Ireland in two years. So I think it's Europe
has figured out how to basically have half a home
field advantage in the United States and then their own
home course advantage back home.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
In Europe in seventeen days.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
This is it. I'm hearing there having a record sales day.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Oh the shampoo.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
That's the shampoo seven dollars a bottle or something.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, if I had hair, I would buy it.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
But it sounds like some of my wife boys.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
It sounds like, you know, some hotel concierge in Long
Island was trying their best to try to sabotage things.
But Luve Donald snipped it out.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
He said, I don't think so well. We have to
talk about this.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
The envelope prole drama, Victor Hoblin withdrawal. The rule forced
us to sit a player which obviously was an automatic halfpoint.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
So is this the dumbest rule in sports? Should it
be changed? Does it have to be changed?

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Will we see it changed by twenty seven?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I guess I'll I'll take it. I'll take it two
different ways. One thing, the one thing I'm going to
say is if you follow the Ryder Cup, and you
have followed the Ryder Cup, and you read about the
Ryder Cup before the Ryder Cup and you opened up
your cell phone and opened up Instagram or TikTok or Twitter,
someone was doing something about the man in the envelope
for the Ryder Cup. It seems like this is lore

(18:53):
about the Ryder Cup. Oh my god, can you believe
this rule? What happens so rarely happened, but this is
something that's there, the man in the envelope, Like it's
like the man in the arena, the man in the envelope.
And so it happened. And at least my reaction from
someone that follows the game was, oh, we knew this
might happen. It's unfortunate. Victor Hoveln played great on Saturday morning,

(19:14):
So I don't think. I think if Victor Hovin could
have played, Victor Hoveln would have would have played. He's
dealt with tons of injuries over the last two years. Like,
I think, this was just an unfortunate reality. And then
to see people including Keegan react to it in real time,
to me, that's a conversation. Let's have that conversation over
the next two years. Let's talk about that for the
next Ryder Cup. But why are we talking about a

(19:35):
rule right now? And critiquing a rule that we all
knew about going in that represents sort of that that
spirit of the sportsman, sportsmanship of the Ryder Cup right
on one. On one hand, where we have that rule,
and then we're also awarding the Nicholas Jacqueline Award, which
celebrates right sportsmanship and the concession, and then we're talking
about how how could this rule exist if we want to.

(19:58):
So then the second part of the conversation, Okay, let's
have the conversation about should the rule exist. I think
I'm going to defend it. I'm going to say that
it should because if this was the other way around,
I think American fans would be like, hey, this is
you know, this is how it is. This is what's fair.
So I.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I mean, you have four vice captains, one of them
should be one of them should be available to play.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Well, right, you.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Should have one vice captain.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
She's an alternate.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
An alternate the alternates got to sit there for five days.
It might Gus wouldn't care, but wouldn't that be awesome
if it's like kids.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Because if it came down to the deciding, it.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Would have been Kegan saying, you know, Harris, I just
don't know. You might have a little right, like I think,
but it's a slippery slope, right, because then you end
up with a Kegan or someone or like all of
a sudden, by the way, the US and their doors
beat in the US is getting their doors beat in
by Europe. And I'm watching on TV and it's Saturday

(21:01):
afternoon and I see Alex norin behind one of the groups,
and I'm going they might not even have their best
twelve guys. Alex Norn just beat them all in Europe.
So I mean there's a kind of it's a slippery slope.
And I know that's not a fun sort of answer
to defend the men in the envelope right now, But
I think that if this was the other way around,

(21:22):
American fans would be right up there like, hey, this
is this is what's fair, you know, Steve.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Ninety one, Steve Pate. Yeah, it's like you apparently Duck
and Sevy, right, I.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Mean, you don't know what's gonna happen, so it's like event.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
It's what makes it fun, right.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you I don't like carrying
a thirteenth player to just kind of sit around. I know,
the Olympics, does it?

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Every other sport has a bench though, I mean in
every other sports you've got guys that you can sub in.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
So should we play ten singles matches? You know what
would that be?

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Like?

Speaker 6 (21:58):
I mean, yeah, just replace it with somebody on the
current roster, like you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Someone who hasn't got enough reps.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Rasmus Hoyguard would have played one match if if we
had a bench.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Well, they could have tug in a Hoyguard easily. He
was there the whole time.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
He was there.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, all right, Well, what was the one moment that
stands out to you, like a shot or you know,
a reversal you know on a on a nine or something.
I've got a couple of it, but I mean you're
the one that really jumps out to you, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
So I think the one that jumps out right, it's
is the shot that Rory hit after the crowd backed
him off the ball on sixteen wasn't stuffed it. Yeah,
I think that's that's a moment that a lot of
people will remember. I also what jumps out to me, ironically,
because he was hurt right after it, was Hofflin making
the putt on seventeen, because that felt like it just

(22:53):
demoralized teamyssay, you're trying to maybe even up the session,
maybe give yourself a chance. That was I believe to
keep euroup one up in that match Hovelin and McIntyre
on on Saturday morning and you're trying to flip that match,
and all of a sudden, I know, we don't say
dormy anymore, but all of a sudden he makes that

(23:15):
putt to just keep it at one up. You're up,
and it just felt like there's just no way to
stop these guys.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
I know it was over early when Rom hit that
shot out of the only fescue on the damn golf course,
Like he's lining up and you're thinking he's gonna smoke
a fan. This is this is like it's over, like
get it, just pick your ball up. You can't hit this.
And he chops this thing out of the only trouble
that they were in all week, sticks it onto the
green and makes the putt and you're like, Okay, something's

(23:43):
going on. And then Hatton hits the one off the tree,
off the off the limb that's on the ground. It's
like these guys were just they just it was everything
went their way the entire the entire two and a
half days. It was wild.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, now it really was. I mean you felt like
every put that eure Up had they were going to make.
Every put that the US had they were going to miss.
But then it felt the total opposite on Sunday, right,
it felt like like what had happened? And maybe it
was fatigue. I thought the TV, I thought they did
a good job. Bones did a good job on TV
actually speculating at hey, guys playing seventy two holes in

(24:21):
two days, not quite seventy two holes, but two matches,
two matches a day, and then getting to Sunday, Like
that's tough, and you think about it. Rory, Tommy and
Rom played it. Were the only guys that played every
session for team eure Up. All three of them lost.
The three guys that played every session for the US Scotty,

(24:43):
Scotty and Roy. I mean they mentioned it on the broadcast.
That was just a dog fight. Those guys were at
a gas Y Bryson who was clearly reeling at the
beginning and somehow just dialed it back up and then
can't lay who was the only guy that lost a
match for a Team USA. So I do think there's
somebody to be said for that fatigue that comes in
on Sunday, and then you have some guys for a

(25:05):
Team USA who were maybe a little fresher because they
didn't play as many holes or they didn't play as
many matches that showed up in singles on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
So the biggest shocking thing is getting back to Bethpage
Black right, Jeff, you're a New York guy. I played
the course late twenty twenty three, and I was so
excited to play it, knowing it was a Ryder Cup venue.
The signs on there. They moved the sign it's right
behind Harry right now, and it turned into the easiest
golf course they played like. I mean, I guess you know,

(25:33):
there was some sort of thought into that. I still
don't know what it was, but it just, I mean,
it took all the fun out of playing that golf
course to me.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, you know, I think the talk coming in was, hey,
you know, people want to see guys make birdies and
just that feeling of because remember there have been Europe
for example, in France, you go back to lay Golf Nationale,
they were sticking pins in the middle of greens. They
were basically saying, this is how we think we're going

(26:05):
to win is if we make these holes simple on
approach play. The pins were tucked at Bethpage. But because
there were just no penalties, that was why all these
you know, everyone had these. There was this issue of
just the course playing too easy. Everyone else could predict that.

(26:28):
But I mean, how many times do we talk about
this as golf fans. Golf fans want courses to play hard,
whether it's the US Open, whether it's the PGA Championship,
whether it's a PGA Tour event. There seems to be
this feeling of golf fans like Berdiees, Well, what I
don't think golf fans would have cared if you were
putting from ten feet for birdie or for par if

(26:50):
it was to win the hole in this situation, and
what happened was a lack of volatility. And in Team
USA's case, once they went behind, it almost felt like
Europe could establish the run with the lead right because
it became so hard to come back in some of
these matches when you had to you had to bertie,
You had to make a bertie to win a hole.

(27:11):
You rarely saw holes being won by part I mentioned
the pillow fight between Scotty and Rory Scotty one. I
think it was the tenth Hole or something on Sunday
on with a Bogie. But for the most part, you
just saw guys winning holes with Bertie's and that's what
I want to see future. I know Hazel Teen's next,
but we've got Olympic Club and Congressional coming up. Someone

(27:33):
asked me today where would I like to see a
Ryder cup? Oakmont was somewhere that I listed as let's
let's put a Ryder Cup in one of the hardest
venues on the planet and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
What do they love about Hazel Teen so much that
they're going back there so quickly?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Sometimes it's right a guy.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, but I think it's that they won, and they
won convincingly with a really great cut out at Hazelteine,
and Hazelteen did a great job with the setup from
an infrastructure standpoint, I'm not talking necessarily about the course,
but I know you've seen You've probably saw some of
the videos of hazel Teine. The first tea was more electric.
You think the first t should get better and better

(28:15):
every year. Right, Europe feels like Rome got better than Paris,
which got better that you had hands on the sides, right, yeah, yeah,
but but Hazel Hazel teen did it. It got it
really going in the right way. So you know, I
think it should move around. I think I'm a big
city type of guy. We'll see if for Roni McK
impresses the PGA of America enough for your folks down

(28:38):
down I ninety five, and maybe we'll get a Philly
Ryder Cup invention. I just want to tell you. I
want to tell you a good story, Harry. I might
have told you this the other day, but the I
was doing radio for the Truest Championship and I interviewed
Shane Lowry after the Saturday, the third round and he

(28:58):
was going to go out on the final pairing with Stepstraca,
and I asked him about the Philly crowd. Shane Lowry
was the fan favorite on the weekend in Philadelphia, and
I said, you know, what's it like with these Philly fans.
They seem to gravitated toward you. And the first thing
he said, is them playing with step tomorrow. You know,
my my Ryder Cup teammate who they had played together

(29:19):
in Rome, I believe two sessions. He said, it's been great,
but we are not going to get that reception when
we're down the road in New York at the Ryder
Cup this fall. And man, was he right, Like that's
all I can think about watching him play with Rory,
those couple, you know on Saturday when everything was going on,
Like he told me that despite all of the support

(29:41):
that he was getting in Philadelphia a few months earlier,
he was going to get razed the entire time at
that page. And he was exactly right.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
They gave Tommy good support too, have finished I think
T four that week. He had a good week there
and they loved him too.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
I mean, that's the look called this week though a
lot of people love Tommy. Like I saw all over
social people were like Tommy and then they were like,
go team USA.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I'm like, it's hard Tommy and Hoveln. I feel like
it's hard to go after them. I think Rory and Shane.
To fans who are more casual golf fans who maybe
watched the Major as the Ryder Cup, they remember, you know,
Rory and Shane and Joe Lakava on Saturday in Rome,
and I think that's that, you know, was partly what

(30:28):
kind of turned fans, certain fans maybe against Rory because
I was so earlier today, I believe it or not.
I was on New Zealand radio talking about the Rider
and so they said, they said, what's New Zealand to Philly.
They said, what's going to happen when Rory goes back

(30:48):
to PGA Tour events. Is he going to get you know,
hear this from the fans of PGA Tour events said
absolutely not. Rory's got among the most supportive anyone. You
can argue Rory's the most supported player are out there
on the PGA Tour. Now, I think that's affected by it,
but he's also I think it is worth noting that
the PGA Tour fan at a you know, the PGA

(31:11):
Tour will go to let's say, let's talk about Mierfield
Village next year, or you know, Rory loves to play
in Canada, or Rory plays he played at the Houston
Open last year. You're gonna have fans that love a
tournament that's been going to the same place for the
same time, you know, for year after year. They've been
going year after year. It's part of the community, the culture.

(31:32):
And here's Rory McIlroy. You know, there's no he doesn't
wear a flag out there on the course and everyone
just you know, the support that he has shown for
the PGA tour. I mean, fans just love him for that.
But all of a sudden you end up with the
situation at Majors, not just Ryder Cups, because I think
about Pinehurst where Rory was definitely not the fan favorite

(31:53):
over the weekend, where you have fans that maybe just
it's kind of like what you guys were talking about.
People have their their online personality is now in person, right,
they see memes or they see what they're supposed to
believe they feel like, and then they go out to
the course and they handle themselves a certain way.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, no doubt. So make sure you're following at Jeff
Eisenban you may you know your career progressing. You got
to do some en course this year. Talk about that experience.
What was that like for you?

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Oh my god, it's it's it's electric. I'm in a
really like the it's amazing. And I started the year
I did Tory Pond's Farmers, I did Mexico the Mexico
Open Evidanta World, which, by the way, you're in the
moment Brian Campbell, Aldrich Potketer. I know that's not necessarily
what folks expected for a PGA Tour win, but you're

(32:45):
watching the playoff and all of a sudden, you know
you're right in the thick of things. When I did
Valspar was when I've really had a sort of pinch me, like,
I can't believe I'm here covering Victor Hovlin and Justin
Thomas playing down the stretch, you know, inside the ropes.
Anyone's listening on the radio, it's on me right now, Vicked.

(33:06):
And it was electric on Sunday, And that's where I
think fans need to realize it doesn't matter if it's
a signature of ana major, whatever it may be. Like
if you were in Palm Harbor, Florida on that Sunday,
it was I mean, to everyone that was there, it
was the biggest thing in the world watching two heavyweights
go back and forth. So just being able. I had

(33:26):
some other truest championship, Rocket Classic and the BMW Championship,
which I followed Robert McIntyre, my colleague Kevin Kevin Sylvester
followed Scotti Scheffler. We were with the final group Saturday
and Sunday. I was the first one that asked Robert
McIntyre about the fans, and he said sort of the
thing like you give me junk or trash, I'm gonna
give it right back to you. Like I mean, it's

(33:48):
just it's electric to be out there. And I think
that golf especially as a sport where fans sometimes it's
hard to get you know, it's my friends that play
golf casually, it's hard to get them to watch on
TV sometime times, but when they are at an event,
when you're at an event, you feel that energy and
it's it's it's an amazing experience. I'm still doing PGH.
We're live as well about equal amount of time, which

(34:12):
has been awesome, you know, still awesome to call things
on streaming not actual television. But the new PGA Tour
Studios was beautiful, you know, beautiful this year for us
to open it. And I did one ESPN bet stream
for the Travelers Championship, So potentially doing more as we
you know, sort of evolve. How Betting has talked about

(34:32):
on our streaming airwaves.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
You're doing Sanderson this week.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I am not doing Sanderson so I've done in the past,
first event I ever did so Jackson. Jackson Country Club
has a special place.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
In your heart.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Well both, that's that's the side of my honeymoon.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
But you.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
You brought up the BMW Championship. Caves Valley could be
a good Rider Cup spot. Yeah, that you know.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I think that's interesting because I was thinking about markets
and Baltimore d C Congressional is going to host a
post a Ryder Cup, which I think will be a
really good Ryder Cup. I think TC out Yeah, I know,
and they've changed that part three. They've made some adjustments there,
but I do think that they'll be There's something about

(35:18):
Washington d C. I think for these big type of
sporting events. I think we're going to see how the
World Cup shapes out and a lot of these markets.
But I think that Baltimore DC is great and I'm
glad that Caves Valley really put on at a great
show this year because even though we all remember that
Bryceon Can't Lay playoff from twenty twenty one, the knock

(35:39):
on that course for seventy two holes until the playoff
was it played too soft, played too easy, and they
worked for four years. They worked so hard on firming
that course up, making sure they put in a whole
aeration system, a whole irrigation system. They were going to
get that course to play how it was intended to play.

(36:00):
And it really I mean, those fans were great too.
I was lucky enough this year to go to Baltimore
and Philly, two markets that don't have a regular annual
PGA Tour event, And that was what made those crowds
to me so special, to have fans that were soaking
in that opportunity to have these events. They still think, like, look,

(36:22):
the Truest Championship will probably end up being a little
more accessible than that aronomic ticket will be for the
PGA Championship next year. So I just thought it was
Philly did a great job, not just putting that tournament on,
but showing up for it.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, no doubt. Did you experience any Philly golf for
yourself when you were here.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I didn't. I need to get down. I need to
get down, you know, I don't. You let us ask
people ask me all the time, they oh, you must
play such great courses. I'm like, well, most of the time,
when I'm there, I can't play our games. So the
fall the fall. Like I'm telling my friends, I'm like
the falls when I'm playing my October and November are
going to be hot golf months for me when I
can actually get out there.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Our big outouting is on October twentieth at the Legacy
Club in herry Hill. You're welcome be our guests here.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I'm in Hoboken. I don't even have to leave the
state of New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
He make a look at the calendar, you let us know.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
I gotta get down there. But I do want to say,
I mean, Philly, Philly Cricket was awesome, awesome to be
out there. It really was, and I was glad from
it as someone who grew up on tilling house courses
that it was able to hold its own after the
first day where things got a little bit dicey, and
I think it spoke for a lot of hey, like, look,
we can you can set up courses that are shorter,

(37:34):
you can mix them around and make them a challenge
and make them PGA to our venues. Because we've got
a new CEO at the PGA Tour, Brian Rollapp that's
going to look at a lot of different potential markets
and potential places to bring golf events. And I do
think that when we look at the calendar in five years,
the stops may be a little bit different than we

(37:54):
saw five years ago. Nice.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, and we just did a we just did a
walk through its Creek and we know that. I think
they already have a wink and a handshake for a
regular PGA tour stop at that venue, So that'll that'll
be awesome. But yeah, it's great seeing you out there.
Love what you're doing. Continued success. Thanks for hopping on
trying to make sense of what was a wild couple
days in beth Page, because it was I had plans.

(38:21):
I'm like, all right, after the Eagles game, i mean
this is over, I'll barbecue, have people coming over. Then
I'm like, wait a minute, this they might have a
chance here.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Literally cy same thing. I watched the Birds. I flipped
over and I'm like, wait, what I know?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
People say the NFL is scripted when they got to
that Rolex hour commercial free at the end, I'm like, man,
it didn't look like we were going to get here
at the beginning, but somehow the script brought us down
to the wire.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
So unbelievable, unbelievable. Thanks again for joining us, and we'll
connect again soon. Let's take a quick break and we
will be right back. All right, Welcome back to Swing
It and Sing It. Great to talk to Jeff EISENBN.
He's doing some cool stuff. Man. It was funny I
think when we when we had him on, he had
just just started PGA Tour live. And that's gotta be

(39:07):
fun for those guys to do the en course though.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Right, that has really got to be that that to
me is like the dream job.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Now and now it's becoming Now they're having a guy
with each player like the final. It used to be
like one guy would walk the course and get some stories.
Now there's you know that that job has opened up
some opportunities, which was really cool.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
But I thought NBC missed Woody this weekend on the call.
They threw note in.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
We didn't talk about the coverage, no, but a lot.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Of note of bagay on on the weekend, and I'm
thinking that he wasn't out on the golf course. But
had they had Woody with.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Bones, I thought that would have made it, you know,
as good as they do a major, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
And I love Faldo, but that was that was unbearable.
I like, gay, I love them, I love them, but
like it's almost like he forgot it. Like he was
breathing into the microphone. He just like completely forgot how
to broad it.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
He sounded like Baldy. But I worked with Baldy.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
You guys, I told you guys that before.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Like Dorry, like Brad asked me on time, He's like,
do I breathe too much? It's like Dorry said when
he's like for stepping up as TV, She's like, you.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Gotta fix your breathing. You're just in the mic breathing,
and I'm like, oh goodness.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
And then when I listened back to our pot, I'm
always like, okay, I like too much.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
I do this, I do that.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
It's a lot of this.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
And then you slip his sip his coffee on the microphone.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
I swear to God, oh.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Like, what do you do?

Speaker 3 (40:32):
I love Baldy the greatest.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
The sipping of the coffee, that's wild.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Somebody said, I usually don't. I don't. Somebody said somebody
was clicking, but I don't think. I don't think it
was one of us. Someone said, like it was a
whole episode. I think it might have just been like
an audio thing said to hear that, you said, drive
me crazy. Not to hear that.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I have an.

Speaker 6 (40:54):
Employee who tapped her nails, and I'd be like, if
you do it, I'm I'm firing you. You cannot stop
with like, tell her then you're out.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
It's the worst.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
Oh man.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
So any other big takeaways from you as we kind
of put a bow on this ryder cup.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, like the two moments that really jumped out at
me that sort of, you know, captivated the whole or
you know, conceptualized the whole thing about Europe and the
way they won.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
The seventh hole.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
On the Friday four ball session, Griffin and Deshambeau were
one up on Fleetwood and Rose and Griffin drains this
fifty to sixty foot putt okay and goes bonkers like
you like you like he does. I mean, he's a
very emotional player, and that's why, you know, when he
was in this, I was really looking forward to watching him.

(41:43):
He drains this putt, the crowd's going nuts.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
They're one up.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Now Rose has to bird he now he's closer. He
was probably thirty feet or whatever it was.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I think it was forty and he drains.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
It and does the chests.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Was so awesome because you know, I was pulling for
Europe Bobby, so I'm and I love rosies, like practically
my favorite player on the PGA Tour, and I was
just like, wow, that is unbelievable. And then Saturday the
foursome round our format on Saturday, Rom chips in from

(42:16):
standing in the bunker. The ball is like this, Yeah,
You're like basically, yeah, you're two up or whatever, like
he makes it.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
I mean, it was just unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
You're like, these guys are just so good everything. They're
always looking to make it, like like you and I
are trying to just get it on the green and
give ourselves a button.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
These guys are.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Actually trying to make every one of those things.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
And he did.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
It was unbelievable, and you know they took they were
even and that gave them a one up lead and
they ended up going on to win three up.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
So yeah, I mean every single time they had an answer, yeah,
and it just was like deflating for the team. Yeah,
I'll tell you what, I'll give you an answer. And
that's the fall Concrete at Act they're the fan favorite
pumpkin pie returns alongside the new apple butter flavor. Try
them today, Danielle, we go from water ice, to tea.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
To tea or to drinks.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
You guys were talking about en course reporters. Let's leave
it to Smiley Kaufman to contact Numeric to find out
the hard hitting field report on like you said, the
rubber duck drink ornaments. So people are like they were
sneaking them in, and they snuck them in to mess
with the Europeans and everything else. But they literally, like

(43:36):
you said, they were the drink ornaments that were put
on top of there, and you figure that out after all.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
I just picture some meeting today of the food and
beverage team and the guy, so, who who ordered the
couple hundred thousand squeaky ducks.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, when you're paying nineteen dollars for a drink, you
should get an ordan some.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Thing, right, Yeah, like come on, give me something here.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Oh my god, that was a wild story because you're like, really,
they're bringing ducks in and I kept saying they kept
saying duckies, which I thought was funnier when you're saying
Rubbert Ducky's like a little kid. But yeah, wild story, yeah, crazy.

Speaker 6 (44:16):
Well we heard we talked a little bit about Jeff
said his favorite shop was Rory. You know, after the
crowd was saying some choice words to him and he
said a choice word back and then stuck it to
like what.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Was it five exactly?

Speaker 4 (44:30):
But I saw it.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
I was like, oh my god, that's so you can't
see anything. There's cameras people recording everywhere. But when they
asked him like how he felt about it and how
it felt in the press or, he said it felt awesome.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Did you guys hear that?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Yeah, yeah, I thought.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
That's one thing that I that I noticed. I was subtle.
But JT's is going above and beyond right trying to
quiet the fans down, and he's like really like even
Cam Young he just looking at him like like and
then you know, Rory makes a shot and he's just
going right back at the fans and you almost see
JT look like, dude, I'm not going to keep quieting

(45:06):
these guys down if you're going to just keep riding. Yeah,
I saw I saw him. Look, I saw him look
over like really, I just spent like instead of me
worrying about my game. I don't know, maybe I'm maybe
I'm miss Dame.

Speaker 6 (45:18):
No I got that same raid too. I mean there
was a full line of state troopers to.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Deploy to the ropeline on Saturday.

Speaker 6 (45:25):
Shane and Rory as you know that, they said the
fan behavior is becoming unruly and hitting it.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
He was just picking guys and plucking them out.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
It was a Saturday afternoon in the four ball match.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Yes, they're coming out now, and they're going to be
coming out for days. Finally, when people get the releases,
take and I use your social media video and now
they're starting to come out. You're seeing him this week,
so you're gonna see some wild stuff. Because it was.
It was outrageous and just way over the top.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
We knew it would be.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
I love how everybody acts like they're surprised, not you guys,
but like people in the media are like to show out,
like on golf show.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
I believe this, what did you expect?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Also, like, you know how hard it is to get
fifty thousand people to be completely silent. It's the only
sport where like, I don't know, I think it's so.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Hard to imagine the World Series where we're like.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, it's the bottom of the ninth It's like, shut up, shutout,
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
It's crazy.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
The fans are going to be fans, especially in the Northeast.
We got to take a quick second to shout out
Patrick Nucombe. I kind of was keeping you guys a
little bit updated. But he was a guest of ours
on at the neep Invitational, so he had to win
to obtain corn Fairy status.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
So the top.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
Twenty five goes to second stage and he would have
gotten corn Fairy status.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
I just love sharing these stories because it shows you.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
Just how wild and how hard it is to obtain status,
to play to move to the next level. He was
part of me heading into the fourth round leading a
couple guys got on fire ahead of them.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
But he played really well.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
I think he had like five birdies, two bogies and
unfortunately finished solo second. But that gave him nothing, no
conditional status, nothing at all.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
So he still has to go to the next stage
of Q School.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
So right now he's you know, I was texting with
him yesterday just saying like great playing, like we were
pulling for you, etcetera, etcetera, and he said headed to
Paris in a few days for your old q uh
European Q School. So it's just seeing the grind from
these guys and I just said, you know, hey, we're
all pulling for you. He said, thanks everybody for pulling
for them, and it was good seeing us.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
A few weeks ago.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
Gave him some juice to keep going for these next
few weeks. So we'll keep an eye on him at
European Q School. We obviously have the other q Q schools.
I can't say Q school today.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Somebody's going to have to help me out.

Speaker 6 (47:43):
Here trending to so we'll have to follow that and see, uh,
you know who's on the bubble, who's getting their card,
who's getting status and who's not.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Now is that for the DP World Tour or for
the Challenge Tour the sort of their corn Faery tour
over there.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Oh well both so depending on where you finish.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
So very much like Q school, hears when you start
out and how you advance and where you go with
what you get. So with just what just happened this
past week on PGA of America's which is formerly Mackenzie
and PJ Tour Latino America, the status used to be
different with you how you got, you know, kind of
graduated to the corn Fairy Tour. But now if the

(48:24):
top twenty five goes to second stage and then you
the winner of the points list gets corn Fairy status.
That's what Brandon got a couple of years ago, and
then so on and so forth, so depending how it is,
and then it's staggered. So if you're like one through six,
you get an x amount of events seven through ten,
like on and on. So it's very meticulous. It's not

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something I've memorized, but it's just a grind for these
guys to see how and what they have to do
to get through it.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
So good luck go over in Paris. Patrick will be
a rooting for you.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
Let's take it back to Philly Guy's Crump Cup at
Pine Valley. Semis are set, Andrew Price, Bobby Wyatt, Bobby Massa,
and Chad Slatsky are in the Championship flight. So legends
like Mike McCoy and Bob Royick and the senior bracket.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Pine Valley obviously never disappoints.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
But unfortunately, Harry, you can't go watch it is still
close to the public. It's crazy you think they'd want to.
I mean I guess they don't want people there just
holds the value and mystique. But it's like, what are
the players allowed to bring like four four guests to
come watch it?

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Play up? You get to your dad. That's it. Yeah,
so that's that's going on this week.

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Speaker 3 (50:13):
All right, so Danielle had her lesson. I actually got
out for a solo nine. When's the last time you
guys have played a solo round? Just ever?

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Last Wednesday? I walked nine?

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Isn't isn't it amazing?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Yeah? Great? It quite often at like once a week typically.
Really yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
No, I d I kind of stuck in my place.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah, I snuck in in between a couple of groups,
and I don't know, you just play so much more relaxed.
The swing is so easy. It just kind of clears
your head and you just, you know, play your game.
So I suggest to anyone, if you get a chance,
get out there for nine. If you if you can
only get nine, get out there solo. Just be alone
with your thoughts. Because that was great, and the greens
were were just pun stile. On Tuesday, I think, but

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I had the new Potter Man, and I'll tell you
what it felt.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Oh yeah, the spider right as.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Good the center post. But it felt as good as
I have ever felt with the Potter in my hands.

Speaker 6 (51:13):
Wowed to find out if it was actual salesman or
just a figment of your imagination.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Like I still still don't know. I don't want to know.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
I don't know either.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Yeah, I don't want to know, but like it just
where I wanted that ball to go. It was going,
so yeah, can we.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Said that center shafted right?

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Yeah, yeah, okay, interesting felt great.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
I know everyone said I should switch to a mallet,
but I just can't like I love my Potter, like
visually looking down. I actually wrote it decent, like last
week on Wednesday. So, like I said, we played nine
and the Brandon thought that's all.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
My attention span would have. And he looked at me.
He's like, actually, you're all right? Do you want to
play some more? So we made the turn.

Speaker 6 (51:48):
We played ten to eleven, then seventeen eighteen, and even
after that I kind of was like, I want to
play some more.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
I said, twelve holes was sort of the cutoff for you.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Yeah, why I became monitors after nine and the zne.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
I think six is perfect, but I don't know. I
think kidding.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
Like having that early like eight o'clock tea time was
nice because we moved along like you know, like I said,
other than him messing with my clubs and going to
grab a club and it just being all his clubs
in there. I was like, what is going on? But
we fixed that. He put my bag back to normal
and moves like you said. I went to Admiral's cove
Mike Milisia. We've had him on the show. I had
my first lesson.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
I told him. I was like, he's like, all right,
so why are you taking lessons now all of.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
A sudden, and I was like, well, you know, we
have a swing and ding it outing and whatever, and
he goes, well, yeah, awesome, let's get you ready.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
When is it.

Speaker 6 (52:40):
I'm like October twenty. He's like, literally, they're giving me
like three and a half week.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Thanks for the notice.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Yeah, no, but it's great. We worked on a lot
of things.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
You guys already asked me offline, but he's like, let's
build a foundation first. So pretty cool, just understanding, taking
it step by step, but really excited to get it
all figured out, dialed in and you know, you guys
love it.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
You'll have to tell me you my new swing.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
We're going to need you. How about your hair? Have
you been out there?

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
It was out both days, Saturday, Sunday over the weekend.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
It hot, Yeah, it was hot. It was kind of
hot both days. Really. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
One money on Saturday that I did not deserve except
well for the match because I didn't really contribute much.
But I did make one birdy. I got a skin
for that too. But Sunday was just a horror show.
But I got to get it together tomorrow and Wednesday's.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Going on with it because.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Friday Friday, I'm at a cricket club and then Saturday
we got the nineteen twelve Fall Classic, which is a
team event you and your partner with nines of alternate shot.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
You and I played in that once.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Is that the one we played in?

Speaker 5 (53:48):
Yeah? It was the Fall, the one in the Fall?

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Yeah, so yeah, I got that coming up this weekend too,
after cricket club on Friday.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
So what was a horror show? Was your putting off?
Your short game?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Everything was kind of off. Yeah, I'll tell you why.
The driving was off. They closed the range so you
can't hit the verse before you go out until further notice.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
They had a tournament there and they beat the crap
out of it, so now it's closed for a while.

Speaker 6 (54:15):
Well that's something I'll ask both of you annect me
when you go out, all right, Like, if you're you
have a tea time, how much time do you get
there ahead of time?

Speaker 4 (54:23):
How much rain range work do you do? How much
prep work, like.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
For forty minutes, thirty minutes?

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Yeah, that's ideal for you. What about you moos?

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Typically I'm getting five swings and head into the first
if that's but if I actually can plan ahead then like,
I like thirty minutes, he's coming in.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
Hot, man, I need to like dial it. I'm like, moods,
I'm coming in hot when we.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
My first that really my first wing was on.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
The T, you know.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
And it was funny because Brennan had a breakfast ball
he hit too, and I actually strike the first one
and I looked at him, I.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Go, well that went just for fun, like h you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I'm picturing the club, the assistant club for a running
Danielle on her bag out to us on the third T.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
You know, we've already started.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Yeah, I would love to get out there earlier and
hit more balls, but it just never seems to work out.
But like on Sunday on Sunday, it's it's walk. It's
walk up only no guests on Saturday and Sunday at
my club. So you go up, you put you sign
your name in, and you get out. And I got
there and there wasn't a hole for like forty five minutes.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
I'm like, beautiful.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
So I had time to kind of roll the new
putter a little bit on the putting green and hit
some balls. But you know, it doesn't it doesn't matter.
I'll go on the range and hit perfect shots. It
just doesn't it's not doesn't translate to the course sometimes,
like I know what I need to do, I'm not
all doing it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:45):
Well, actually Mike says that he didn't say it to
me while he was coaching, but while I was getting
content with him. He's like a lot of people will
go and you know, play and practice on the round range.
Part of me, he's like, we're the best practice is
on the course, Like you're not on the range hitting
like a shot where you have like a married lie
and it's.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
You know, half in the tree, you know, half of whatever.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
He's like an even stance.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
Yeah, he's like the best type of practice just getting
out and playing. So of course, like you know, for me,
it's just like getting the nineteen cracks out of my
back is you know my warmone.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
I mean, whether my t time's at eight o'clock or
nine o'clock, I'm up at five am for that tea
time reparation. Yeah, I like stretching a lot of stretching
to get the system working, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, I hear you. Big part of it, yeah,
big part of it. Well, we we keep the fall
series going here with the Sanderson Farms. Who's going to
take home the big rooster? That's the that's the question, Jackson, Mississippi.
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Speaker 1 (56:59):
Yeah, not a lot for this one country Club at Jackson.
John Fout and Mike Gogel designed this back in eight
parse seventy two four and sixty one yards average green,
sixty two hundred square feet Bermuda grass. Everywhere except the
rough is bermuda and Zoyja grass, and they'll keep that
around two and a half inches.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
So it's sort of similar.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
To the height that they had up at Bethpage. But
fifty six sand bunkers, seven water hazards that's in play
on six, I believe six.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
Of the holes.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
I think this is a pretty boring parkland layout. It's
really flat and totally unremarkable. Like I think if I'd
play this place, i'd walk away not remembering one of
the holes. But it's you know, it's got a pretty
decent field during football season. Yeah, the card for the
NFL on Sunday, including the Eagle game. But I have

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to watch the Eagle game because I gotta do. The
post game is garbage, So I will be watching the
final two hours of this off tournament on.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
I's gonna say, Harry, I could I could call you
out on not remembering a hole because I can tell
you which hole? Did Brandon hit a ball up into
the top of a beverage stand?

Speaker 5 (58:09):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (58:09):
That was this tournament? That's right?

Speaker 5 (58:11):
Oh this one?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Oh wow, the Nicolo Vultra Uh yeah, roof Tea exactly.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
I was gonna say, you remember a few of.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Them, know, the one, the one that you will remember
about this place is the big water tower. They've got
a big water tower that you can see from everywhere
on the course.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah. Yeah, So we have out of the top fifty
you got ah, you got min Wu, j T Posts
and Sam Stevens and the only Ryder Copper still confirmed
at this point is Rasmus that's supposed to go over
and play and.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
His brother's there too.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Yeah. Yeah, you're right, both. Yeah, so last year he
had Kevin you you had Luke Liszt won it before that,
Mackenzie used Sam Burns. Remember we had Sebastian Munos on
the show who won this before Sergio? But uh yeah
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Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
So yeah, he's at eighteen hundred along the law with Minwu.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
I'm seeing a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Yeah, people are all over. I'm seeing a lot of
people on on thorpe Bjornsen. That seems to be the
popular Michael Thorp Jornsen, that's twenty five hundred, talking about
him as a future Ryder Copper. A lot of love
for him. I'm seeing out there, and I'm curious to
see Max Homa, yeah at four thousand, to see what
he does this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Yeah, I mean, you got guys, a lot of guys
who are really trying to get their mojo back, like
Max Homer, Tom Kim has lost his mojo.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
He's in the field. Do you remember Aaron Wise who
won a tournament a few years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
I believe he won the Byron Nelson and then has
disappeared and he's trying to get it back.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
He's in the field. Some young player like Luke Clanton's
in the field. You mentioned min Wu.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Minwu played pretty well over in Europe during that stretch
in August in early September, so he's got to be
up there as one of the favorites. But Jacob Bridgeman
looks pretty good to me. At plus thirty five hundred,
I like that number for a guy who was who
was in the playoffs all the way to the end.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
Is a really good player that hasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yet won, and this is one of these places where
guys get their first win.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
On the PGA Tour.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
JT posting for a top ten I like. He seems
to play well and the South gets that putter going
and Emiliano Grillo to at thirty five hundred to win
is a nice number I'll take a little bite of.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
But I made mention before the show.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I've already taken Cam Young in the PGA Championship next
year at Ironomy off of his Ryder Cup and the
fact that he's got his win already plus seven thousand.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
That's a juicy number.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Daniel must be tired because he said playoffs and seawou.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
And I didn't know in my head though I was
like shaking that. I just didn't want to.

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
I'm trying not to interrupt. It's my brother so much
in my brain. I'm like, just hold your tongue.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
So I didn't set it in my head, Okay, I
definitely I said I didn't say. I didn't say playoffs,
but I did say shaking that.

Speaker 6 (01:02:02):
And I was also taking a look at the field
because I wanted to see who was in here.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
I saw the Yeah, yeah, actually I was looking to
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Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Yeah, Eric Cole, we haven't seen much of Eric in
a while.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Yeah, cool, Joel Damon. A lot of a lot of
those like mid tier guys that wet Buckley.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
Yeah, interesting, like Hire said, a lot of people get
the first time.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
You know, PJ Tour win here, so interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Yeah, there's no Scottie Wilts that I don't have to worry.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
There's no Palm Tree, so I don't know if I'm
in on ox Shay, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Been on.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
Yeah. I put thirty bucks on Cam Young.

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