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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I suppose it's nice to know that.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
A man who is now charged with murdering three different people,
one of those being a pregnant woman, is off the streets.
He's been off the streets for his I guess his
what I hope is the final murder that he allegedly commits.
But deonze Lee Junior, as you heard there in the
the update from John Shannon, twenty two years old, has
now been charged with two previous murders while he is

(00:26):
currently in jail for murdering his stepfather. So prosecutors say
he shot and killed his stepfather in Saint Matthew's in
mid August after they got in a fight. And while
he's been in custody since I think that, yeah, since that,
since he was taken into custody four days after that
took place. He's been there on a one million dollar bond.

(00:47):
Since he's been there, he's now been charged with two others,
two other murders, and again times can appreciate the fact
that I don't think about this often because that'd be
no way to live.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
But just you know, knowing.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
That that that that there's people here in our community
that have that have clearly gotten away with murder. I mean,
there's a lot of unsolved murders all across the world,
but certainly we have our fair share of him here
in Louisville. And I don't spend every waking moment thinking
about that. But when you see that this guy was
responsible for three of them until he committed and you know,
he was out on the street until I guess he

(01:23):
committed his third.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Uh, it's just it's just wild.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
To think about for me, and it's not you know,
maybe it is that I'm just totally naive, But that's
just again good news from from the public safety side
to where this This guy is already in jail, already
on a one million dollar bond, but three different I mean,
what what a I mean again, if if, if what
he's charged with is true and he's he ends up

(01:46):
being guilty and it's convicted, I would assume that would
mean that that he would certainly spend the rest of
his life in prison. I would hope that's the case.
I guess the only time would tell if that's how
it ends up playing out. But just a wild thing
to process. Twenty two years old too, by the way,
and he's already taken three lives and one of those

(02:07):
was and this is the story I just saw on
the newscast this morning from our partners over there WKY,
the shooting death of Jeremia Offitt, who was twenty eight
years old and she was pregnant with her fourth child
when she was killed. So again, props to the folks
at LMPD and those involved in that investigation to determine
that he's responsible for these three murders, and hopefully they

(02:30):
can continue to track down these people who do these
awful things right easier said than done, and of course
needing to help them the community in order in solving
these cases is probably something we should acknowledge more because
they can only do so much. It's one thing when
you hear people act as if they're at fault for
crime going on.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Obviously there can be some preventitive things in place, and
we are seeing some progress there, but LMPD just became
such a punching bag over the years and it's tough
to see. But I think because of that, it's led
to some people just believing that like when you show
up to not you as an individual, but whenever you

(03:10):
hear about an awful, violent situation that took place. I
think some people's mind is probably it's now wired to
just assume that it's law enforcement's fault that had happened,
which is a crazy thing to think about if you really,
you know, think about it. But yeah, twenty two year
old taking three lives, one of them being a pregnant mother,

(03:30):
and of course now his life is ruined forever. All right,
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I want to try to keep this thing on track
here because I do, believe it or not, I do
have a plan for the show today.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Believe it or not.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
You may not ever realize it, but I do prepare,
at least I tried to. But Scott's going to come
back in here in just a moment. He's got sports
of course coming up at six twenty five. But I
wanted to have a thought of Scott because He's somebody
that I've heard mentioned from time to time since we've
been working together that he's he's not big on small talk,
and I think most people aren't. It's just it's how

(05:16):
we say. It's how we greet each other. But like
how often when you ask somebody, hey, what's up? Do
they tell you what's up? It's a way of saying hello.
But there is a breakdown of things we could do
in place of the how you doing, how's it going,
what's up? The small talk right that actually ask questions

(05:37):
to where you could actually have a legitimate exchange with somebody,
not just the you know, Because again, small talk it
is it is, and I sul we shouldn'tay it's a
waste of time. You're being nice to people, You're communicating,
it's a way of saying hello. But these are some
good tips that I want to talk about with you guys.
So stick around right here again in his Coffee and Company,
we're fuel about Thornton's on Who's Radio eight forty whas.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
It is sick sixteen here on a Tuesday morning.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Thank you for hanging out with us here News Radio
eight forty whas It's Coffee and Company with you fuel
about Thornton's Nick Cofee, that's me, he Scott Fitzgerald. And
when you consider small talk among somebody, you know, coworkers,
somebody you run into, is it I mean, is it?

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Hey? How you doing, how's life? How's the family?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Like? Give me some others that are just in that,
because the way I set it up, Scott, is that
it's questions you ask that when you ask the question,
there's zero percent of you that actually is interested in
the question you're asked and the response from the other person.
They're not giving any thought about what you asked. It's
just a way of saying hello, like how often? In

(06:40):
fact you only you all get this because you worked
with him as well, Will Clark. It stood out to
me that if I saw Will Clark and I would
say what's up, it wasn't a oh, hey, what's up?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
He would actually stop and be like, nothing, what's up?
What was going on? Yeah? He didn't Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, Clark's social skills did not align with my maybe
not skills, but like he just if I asked him
what's up? He thought I wanted to know what was
actually going on? And it's not that I wasn't interested
in what he had going on. But that's just how
a lot of people say hello. But we do it
all day every day when we truly aren't asking the question.
It's just a way of exchanging pleasantries, right.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, the biggest one is how was your weekend? Now
you know darn well that most people don't want to
sit there for a twenty minute explanation as to how
your weekend was. And if somebody responds to here, yeah
it was good, you're like, all right, cool, you generally
want to see and then you move on.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
You won't even remember that you asked somebody about their weekend,
because you really didn't. Those words came out of your mouth,
but that was not the actual exchange.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
And I think the worst thing when it comes it's
just small talk, and I am not a small talk person.
Is like when I sit down to eat for whatever reason,
it's just a personal thing. I like to eat my
meal and read and I don't. Inevitably somebody will come
into my office.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
You're not looking for chat. I am not.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
And there's one thing I can't stand is chatting with
someone while I eat because one for whatever reason, chewing
bothers me, I.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Got to tell you something.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I think that's actually rude if people do that, I know, right,
I mean, seriously, it's not the worst thing, but like
I think it's especially if if it's clearly like it's
your lunchtime, you know what I mean, Like you're not
just walking around the house casually snacking like it's lunchtime.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yes, And I don't want to sit here a short
time talk. Well, I'm eating. I want to enjoy my lunch.
But I'm not a big small talk person, especially if
I'm in the kitchen over the holidays and I'm cooking
and I need.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
To you're trying to get stuff done. I had to
tell my wife. She started talking to me.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
She was, Oh, I got to show you this picture
I took after they got back from Wine on the River.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I said, yes, I want to see your picture.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
However, I'm putting this recipe together and I have to
concentrate because if I don't, I'm going to screw it up,
and then, inevidence, she get mad, not necessarily if I'm
honest with her, she doesn't.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
If she does, But what.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
If you made a joke about it, like would that
make it easy? Like if he's like, I just call
my assistant. We'll get together after half finish of this.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
But holidays are the worst time for that because I'm
trying to put together a holiday meal and people want
to come in and go.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
So, how's the job, how's this? How's that?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You know you don't care how much you're making me
realize there should be a little more awareness of the
host of an event. You know, they're operating a little
different that day because of everything that went into it,
and of course just the note knowing that there's so
many people in their house that they honestly probably would
never say it, but they probably don't want him there. I mean,
what we're doing this morning is just telling telling the
truth about things that maybe some wouldn't be as comfortable saying.

(09:21):
But I think most know what we're saying here now.
This Actually the reason I brought this up is because
there was somebody that that parlayed this into the adult
version of it. But when you ask your kids questions
after their day, you know, don't just say hey, how
is your day? Say hey, who just sitting next to
a lunch today? Did you did you play any sports today?

(09:42):
Did you talk to anybody? In class today that you
don't usually talk to what did you learn? Those kind
of things because at that point, like my son is five,
when I asked him how his day was, he's already
programmed to be like good like, and he won't remember
that I asked him about his day, because that's just
how that's how we meet each other whenever we see
each other after we both had our day. But somebody

(10:04):
switched it to the adult side and said, you know,
instead of hey, you know, how's work, maybe go there
and then say, you know, what's you know, what's been
your biggest challenge at work? Or you know where's it located?
Where you guys were exactly Now again, you may learn
that that could be the that could be a really
good way of speeding up the process that you too
don't need to have any small talk, no exchange, But

(10:24):
it could also lead to you end up spending that
same amount of time and actually taking something from the conversation.
And more than anything, it removes the just I mean,
I get it's not like it gives me major anxiety,
but I avoid people that I somewhat know to avoid
that small talk because it just it's awkward for me
because I can't take that. I really care You're not alone.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I do the same thing. Brother.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
If I see somebody coming down the hallway and I
know they're going to make small talk with me, I
will purposely act like I forgot something. Turned around, go
the other way.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Scott does show up on the whole way. I'm so relieved.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm so relieved to know that I'm not the only
one that does that. Let I see somebody two hours
away in Walmart, I'm heading the other way.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh, I've do that with people I know in the store.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I feel awful for admitting this, but I feel free
letting it out because I do that. And it's again,
I just I know I'm not really gonna have it's
just avoiding that exact like, oh, okay, we just wasted
ninety seconds of Hey, how you doing, how's life, how's
the kids, how's your mom? I'm that kind of stuff.
And again, the intent is there. People are trying to
be nice.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's just it's it's a waste of time, That's what
it is.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Let's ask real questions and you know, who knows, maybe
we strike up a genuinely productive conversation and take.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Something from it. Right on just just throwing it out there.
All right, let's get to a quick update. We've got
traffick in weather on the way.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Also another sports update coming your way right here on
news Radio eight forty whas. Thank you very much, John Shannon,
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(11:53):
cents off per week, so make sure you take advantage
of that. And usually when I go to Thornton's, it's
hard for me to go in there without walking out
with some candy. I have a sweet tooth, but not
not like most. I don't know, maybe I'm maybe I'm
not as uh, maybe it's not rare, but I I
could probably never have a piece of chocolate again the rest.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Of my life and I and I would be okay,
are you a chocolate guy?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
John definitely loves me so yeah, I just I don't
dislike it.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I'll eat it.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Do you have this favorite? If you I mean you
say you don't really enjoy it too often? Is there
anything that really tickles the fancy.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Like if I, you know, if there's a selection of
let's just do Halloween candy, which that's where I'm actually
going here. But let's say, you know, in the Halloween
candy bags where you know, you just buy a big
old bag and it's got a mixed variety of stuff.
If we've got like the many Snickers, many three Musketeers,
the little Resi cups Hershey kisses, those kind of things,
I'll always go with receas cause so again I put
it in.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I like chocolate.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's fine. I just I don't seek it out. And
if I, you know, maybe I would, maybe i'd learn
that I'm wrong here, and after a year or two
without chocolate, I would miss it. But it just doesn't
do much for me if I'm thinking if I'm if
i'm thinking candy, I'm thinking sour stuff, which.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Okay, so here's sour guy.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, oh yeah, I mean I want to I want
to hug and just tell whoever it was that put
it in motion to get sour airheads made. I want
to thank them and and let them know how much
they've changed my life because it's the best candy ever.
So that kind of stuff, Skittles, sour Patch kids, like,
that's the candy that I that I seek out and

(13:23):
I usually go into when I go to Thorntons. It's
hard for me to pass up just grabbing some candy.
I don't get a whole lot because you know, it's
not good for me. But I haven't been getting as
much at Thornton's because what I've been doing is eating
all the candy that my wife bought to give away
the trigger treaters. I can't help myself and she she's
at fault here, not me. I mean she buys these
three huge bags and just leaves them sitting out, like

(13:47):
I'm not just gonna walk by, and every time I
walk by, grab something.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
The sweet tart. Are they called ropes? Have you seen those? Yes?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Oh, they've got so the little I guess the Halloween
version of them, where you you know, you just give
out a smaller version in the basket for people who
are trick or treating. I mean they come in a
little pack of two. They're smaller than, of course, the
the regular ones that you get at the store, and
they're so delicious.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Uh. The sour punch straws. You know what those are?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, like that.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
So that's part of I mean, she bought candy to
give away to kids on Halloween. That is the candy
that I'm just gonna have a tough time, you know,
walking away from.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I'd tell you what's one of my new guilty pleasures
is the nerds gummy clusters.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh yeah, those are in that's in the bag.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Those are That's the new, the best new. I mean,
I know nerds have been around for a while, but
I think this new version of them is pretty new.
They're they're very addictive.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Ye, that gummy center makes nerds of it balances out
nerds because if you just you just throw a bunch
of nerds in your mouth, I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
It's it's like eating rocks on them.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, it's a little too much as far as just
the texture and the sweetness. I mean, it's it's it's good.
But you know, I need you know, if I if
I go through uh, you know, just eating nerds straight up,
like my mouth's gonna be all raw and you know,
feel the effects of it. But the gummy center in
the nerd, ropes in the nerd, the nerd clusters. They're
just they're delicious. But I bring this up because I'm

(15:11):
not alone. US adults have had a problem for years
when it comes to sneaking candy before Halloween actually arrives,
and new survey finds Americans can't resist digging into their
trick or treat stash early on. And if you're an adult,
I would assume your stash is what you're giving away,
right Like my kids, they have had a couple of
different trigger treating events, but their stuff is in a

(15:33):
bag where I can't see what it is, and it's
in their room. My wife's got the candy out out
in front, like we're already giving it away every night,
and that's where.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
It just it's hard for me to avoid.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
But the average person eats through their Halloween candy supply
twice before October thirty first. That to me, that seems
a little excessive, But one in four have had to
restock because of that, and we're going to be in
that group. A third of people are stocked up by
October first meeting, they're battling temptation for a full month.
More than half, which is fifty five percent, wait until
the last minute to buy candy, while forty three percent

(16:04):
are still grabbing costumes supplies in the days leading up
to Halloween. So procrastinators wait for everything, including Halloween candy
and Halloween costumes. But in my wife, that's one of
the one of the things where we balance out. I'm
a big procrastinator. She's the exact opposite. So her loading
up early has led to me just and look, I
don't seek out candy a whole lot because I know

(16:25):
if I eat some, I'm gonna eat a lot of it,
and it and good for me and sometimes gives me
a stomach ache, right, like you just put a bunch
of sugar inside of you, and it's hard not to
when I try to eat healthy for the most part,
and then I just binge out on candy, I feel
like crap. So it's not worth it, but it's hard
to resist it. So when I That's why for me,

(16:47):
it's like when I see it it's in front of me,
it's hard for me to pass it up. So I'm
gonna tell her to hide it, get it out of sight,
because if it's in front of me, I'm gonna I'm
gonna have a hard time not just going to town
on the gummy clusters, and of course those sweet tart
broke they're just delicious. So yeah, but I'm glad to
know I'm not alone. All right, let's get to a
quick time out. We've got tracking weather updates on the
way and need a lot more to get into here

(17:08):
this morning. So don't go anywhere where would you go?
I mean, I know you've got options, you got things
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You just do believe me, trust me right here our
News Radio eight forty whas. I can't remember the last
time we were midway through a college football season. In fact,
many haven't played six games yet because of the bye weeks,

(17:29):
so I don't know there's ever been a time we've
gotten to this point in the season, and there was
so many open jobs already in college football. And I
bring this up because Virginia Tech they've been open for
a few weeks now. And of course over the weekend,
big opening with Penn State deciding to move on from
James Franklin. But Mark Stoops his future in Lexington has
certainly been a big talking point and we'll continue to

(17:51):
be a big talking point this season just because of
where Kentucky football is They've got Texas coming to town
this weekend, and obviously you consider Texas looking the way
they looked against a good Oklahoma team, probably not the
probably not a favorable result is coming on Saturday in Lexington.
So I just what's the exit strategy, right? That's what

(18:14):
a lot of fans are asking. And the thought of
paying Mark Stoops all of his buyout in a sixty
day window, we're talking nearly forty million dollars, that just
seems very unlikely. Also timing, I don't think this is
a timely moment to make a move from Stoops because
Kentucky has sec money. It's certainly not a terrible job

(18:37):
in the grand scheme of things, But you've got other
gigs that are open that I mean, if Florida ends
up opening up, which it likely will, we already know
that Arkansas is open. I mean Penn State, that's a
huge job. So the up and coming coach that you
could maybe get, like a John Sumrall, I mean, that's

(18:57):
a guy who you would hope Kentucky would be able
to get because of the Kentucky connections if in fact
it opens up. But John Sumral could be one of
the top names for Arkansas, and Arkansas is a better
job to Kentucky. And with that said, it would come
down to this guy with Kentucky roots, Kentucky connections, John Sumrrall,
who's at Tulane. Is he going to go to the
job that he's maybe more close to, or he's going

(19:18):
to go to a job that gives him a better
chance to win and may have better resources for him.
So or maybe Lane Kiffin goes to Florida, ole Miss
opens up. John Sumrall is already at Tulane. I think
Ole Miss would come after John Sumrall. So not to
say you couldn't get like that shouldn't be why you
don't make a move. But when it comes to you know,

(19:39):
the pool of good coaches out there that are that
are primed to move on from wherever they are, You're
not going to be first, second, or third in line
to get those coat to.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Get those coaches.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
But again, they still have resources to where they could
make it a really attractive offer for a lot of
coaches to come to Kentucky. But one of those jobs
that is open as Virginia Tech and John Shannon had
mentioned this to me a little bit earlier, and I
stand by what I told him. I don't think there's
a scenario that Mark Stoops would get hired by Virginia Tech.
But he is mentioned as one of eight names, and

(20:09):
I think this is agent's really working hard because you
know you've got in the last couple of weeks. Last
week it was it was a talking point that hey,
despite that being a lot of money and there being
a timely sixty day window to get him paid fully,
if you if you buy him out and fire him,
Kentucky can can round up that money, which I believe
they can. I do I don't. It's probably not something

(20:30):
they would ever want to have to do. But I
think if it gets so bad and let's just say
they don't win a game in the SEC this year
and they go two and ten, I guess it would
be three and nine. I mean, I don't know how
it would become. It wouldn't matter what the candidates look like,
it wouldn't matter buy out. It was going to be
basically too expensive not to not to not to fire him,

(20:53):
and that may be where they're headed. But the scenario
where Mark is so last week again the conversation was.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Well, hey, they got to do it. They got to
do it.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
They'll they'll, they'll find the money. And now it is
that he may have interest from Virginia Tech, which that's
got to be agent driven stuff, right, that's just this.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
This is I think.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Part of this is the early stages in the exit strategy.
But look, Kentucky fans know this isn't me being the
Louisville fan just trying to give you guys a hard time.
All the reasons that you are desperate for a change
and want somebody else to take over your program, those
are all the exact reasons why Virginia Tech would never
consider hiring him. The only thing you could point to

(21:29):
about Stoops that would make him not even attractive for
a job but just somebody that you would praise, is
that he had some longevity at Kentucky where there was
sustained success in a way they'd never have before. But
at the end of the day, the overall level of success,
it's really not what I think some Kentucky fans at
one point thought, I have no issue with you celebrating

(21:51):
the success that Stoops gave you, because again, you'd never
had it before as far as just the longevity there,
but I mean, he's won forty seven percent of his games,
and the two ten win seasons are something that we
may never see again, and he deserves a lot of
credit from that, but he's far from that. And those
two ten win seasons that both both took place in
the previous world, right before nil on the Portal was

(22:13):
a thing, those aren't gonna be real big selling points
to a good job that's looking for a coach. The
recency of just how much things have fallen apart, I
think makes it to where he could find another gig,
but not one of these head coaching jobs that's open
right now.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Anyways, if they continue to struggle, that'll continue to be
a talking point. Hey, what are we going to do
with their football program? Because it ain't working right now
and it seems as if there's only this fan base
seems as dejected as ever when it comes to football.
All Right, we've got an other sports update coming away
with Scott on the other side, but first let's get
to an update on traffic and weather. Right here on
there's Radio eight forty whas
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