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October 23, 2025 • 19 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is six o five here at news Radio eight
forty whas, thank you so much for starting your Thursday
morning with us. Nick Coffee. That's me the company man.
That's what I call him because he's a company man.
He's John Alden. He's alongside the whole cruise. Here is
Scott Fitzgerald, John Shannon, and again we're taking you up
till nine o'clock. So oftentimes I find myself wanting to
throw my phone at the wall whenever I see countless

(00:24):
people sharing a link to a story, a graphic, a
video and it being so obvious that it's misleading or
it's just not real, and the amount of people who
don't realize that it's fake, it bothers me. Now Again,
sometimes especially right now, with content, image, video, it's tough

(00:45):
to know what's real and what's not. But sometimes it's
just a news story or a headline and it's just
taking out of context. And this is a story from
the Courier Journal yesterday that here's what I'm gonna do.
I'm I'm gonna read to you just what the story is,
and then I'm going to tell you what the headline is,
because I think the headline is insanely misleading, and also

(01:07):
it's behind a paywall. I know the amount of people
sharing it and sharing and expressing fake outrage didn't read
it because they don't have CJ subscriptions, I would imagine.
I'm sure some people do, but most don't. So there
is a lieutenant with LMPD who once was cited. I'm
sorry he became sort of a no name. I shouldn't

(01:30):
say no name, but he's been in the news for
some not so good things, and it was whenever he
cited a pregnant homeless woman who ended up being in labor,
So that of course went national as far as just
the coverage of it. A LMPD lieutenant cited a pregnant
homeless woman while she's in labor, as you could expect,
that's a headline that's going to get attention. But Caleb
Stewart is his name. He received an award. He received

(01:53):
Louisville Tourism's Partner of the Year award last fall after
being nominated by Deputy Mayor Nicole George, who praised his
efforts to reduce homeless encampments and make Louisville streets safer
for visitors, but homeless advocates are outraged because they say
this award it glorifies enforcement actions that punish vulnerable people

(02:14):
rather than help them. So there's more to it, which
we'll get to. But the headline says, let's see, I'm
going to make sure I get it right because I
could be maybe it's not as misleading as I thought,
but I feel like it's pretty misleading.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Let's see, let me where's it out here?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Says Well, now I can't seem to find the actual
headline itself.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
But.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's gonna drive me crazy because this is a key
point here as far as what actually here. It is Listen,
l and PD officer who cited homeless woman in labor
gets tourism award. People who read the headline and didn't
read the article. I think it's just common sense to
assume that this guy didn't get an award because he

(03:03):
cited a.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Homeless pregnant woman.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
But people are acting and sharing this is if because
he did that, that's why he got an award.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
John helped me out here.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
That's one hundred percent of the truth.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
And so the headline's misleading.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Well, absolutely, and it's it's the fault of the people
for falling forward, but it's also the fault of the
person creating the clickbait headline. That's that doesn't make any sense, Like, yeah,
there's elements to what there's two different truths in the headline,
but they're not necessarily related in the way that they're
supposed to be there.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, and I just think now it's it's not even
a thought to try to click on a story and
read it, because you just people don't spend their time
doing that as much. And I'm sure there's certain stories
that you would want to read, but everybody gets their
info from quick social experience social media, you know, experiences
when they open up the app, whatever it may be,
and they see a quick video reel, or they just

(03:54):
see a headline, a graphic, a meme whatever. It is
not to say people still don't read articles, but this
is wonder where you had to pay to read it.
I don't think that many people, as far as those
who saw the story being shared on Facebook, actually had
a subscription to where they could read it. So we
now have I mean, even if it's just a few people,
that's too many, but it's probably way more than a

(04:15):
few that genuinely think that the Louisville tourism folks gave
this guy an award because he cited a pregnant woman
who was homeless who actually ended up being in labor.
So again, he was nominated for this award by Deputy
Mayor Nicole George in September of last year for his
work clearing up encampments. So again, his role was to

(04:38):
help get the homeless camps all over Louisville cleaned up
as best you can, because obviously that's going to impact
this city in a not so good way. So just
two weeks later after he was nominated, that is, whenever
he issued an unlawful camping citation to a pregnant woman
who ended up being inactive labor under a downtown overpass.

(04:59):
Now wasn't a good look for this guy, no doubt
about that. I'm not defending that.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Body.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Camp video shows the officer Stewart saying, quote, I don't
believe for one second to this lady's going into labor.
She later gave birth at a hospital, So obviously he
was wrong. And again that's the kind of story that
will make national news and it's not a good look.
But he also been facing a twenty days suspension at
the time for failing to report a subordinate's use of

(05:25):
a choking technique considered a deadly force on a man
that was mentally ill. So he was suspended twenty days
for again failing to report a subordinate's way of doing
the job. But he wasn't suspended for at least I
don't think he was suspended for the citation issue. But overall,
this guy is believed to have been very good at

(05:46):
what he was tasked of doing, which was helping reduce
the amount of homeless camps that are set up throughout
the city the word Deputy Mayor George has defended him
to the Police Merit Board, calling his work with homeless
difficult and disciplined. Again, and there's a lot of outrage
right now about this whole story, or maybe I need
to be careful. I don't know if there's a lot

(06:06):
of outrage, there's just some of it. Right Sometimes the
loud select few on social media you think they represent
a bigger amount of people than they actually do. But
just to be clear, if you saw that spreading like
wildfire last night, it wasn't as if they decided, well,
you know what, I think we should not this guy.
He he cited a pregnant woman and turns out she

(06:26):
was actually in labor.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's great work.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Let's go ahead and give him an award, like use
your brain sometimes people. But to be fair, the headline
I think was totally misleading. But misleading headlines are they
really going to get you what you want? As far
as the traffic on the internet, because most people don't
even click on links anymore. They just read the headline
and that's all they need. That's all the info they want.
All right, we got trafficking. Whether that's the NFO you

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want to do want to at some point talk about
comments yesterday from Tom Izzoh, Michigan State head coach on
Louisville signing a player from the G League and it

(07:56):
becoming such a national story when it comes to college hoops.
I think it's one of the many examples of the
hypocrisy that is that exists within the coaching world. But
also I mean just wanting to just be the old
angry grandpa, like that's the brand tom Izzo is going for,
and I'm just curious, like who, like who are you
catering to like, who are you hoping you? You know

(08:18):
you you're making a good impression on about being the
guy that's just always angry about things that really you
have no control over, nobody has any control over as
far as the ever changing landscape of college sports. So
again we'll get into that because again there are some
great examples of just the level of hypocrisy out there,
as far as coach is saying that, you know, it's

(08:39):
embarrassing that Louisville was able to sign a player who
played in the G League, which again, it's there's a loophole,
it's it's it's a unique situation certainly, but you got
countless players in college sports right now, college basketball specifically
that have been pros overseas, that are entering the college
game as freshmen that are twenty two years old, including

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(10:10):
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eight forty whas, Happy Thursday to you.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Welcome in.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
It is coffee and company, and we are fueled by
Thornton's here on News Radio eight forty whas. I say,
welcome in. If you're just now joining us, but if
you have been with us, thank you.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Buckle up. We're not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
We're with you till nine o'clock and certainly a lot
more to get into. And joining us now here in
studio is a voice you just heard, and that is
John Shannon. So I think if you listen to this
show regularly then you have a little bit of familiarity
with John. But he brought a treat in this morning.
It is a it is a Today croissant and this
is this is a German product, right, yes, so you

(10:57):
spent how many years in Germany?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Six and a half straight and straight, we took a break,
we got we came home for a couple of weeks
on the army's dying because if you stay over there
long enough they can they send you home for free,
to go back to your home where he live. So
we went back to Texas and visited, visited some friends
and family. But yeah, six straight years, so am straight.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
So you can you can find some some of the products,
some of the treats necks that you that you became
I guess accustomed to in your six years in Germany.
It probably not easy to find, but you can find
those things stateside, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
You can a lot of times the commissary on any
military installation, which is the military grocery stores will have
sections for that. But other times you get lucky like
and unfortunately they just closed. But until recently Etown had
a really really good German store.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
So the store was just set up for products that
are produced in Germany.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Germany, Europe. Yeah, things things are people that have been
stationed over there that might enjoy they could they could
still find.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
So I am somebody that has lived here my whole life.
Don't plan on going anywhere, and I'm content, I'm proud
of that, But I don't have the life experience as
far as living in other cities, other countries like you did.
You're from Texas, and again you've been all over with
your time in the service. Now you call Kentucky home.

(12:14):
But what was it like being in another country, not
just for a trip or a long getaway, but it
was your home, You lived there, you raised your kids there.
How old were your kids during that time?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
So my son and daughter, Biron and Jessica were seventh
grade and fourth grade respectively, fifth grade especially, yeah, when
we went over there in twenty ten, So they.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Young, but also clearly old enough to remember that experience
in their life.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Old old enough to be able to enjoy and appreciate
with what they were going through. They both graduated high
school over there from Kaiserslaughter in American High School in
Kaiserslaughter in Germany. It was an amazing experience. It was
something that I probably would not have done had it
not been for being in the military.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
So I'm grateful for this whole scenario is really there
because of that. But also, you know, you live it's
not like your every night and every day, every second
that you're there, it's just consumes your your service. It's
not you know, you're raising a family we.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
We lived like we do here. We we we actually
lived on the economy over there. We never lived on
any of the military installations. We always lived off post
in the house and lived in the in the communities
around there. And that was and that was nice. That
helped us kind of immerse more in the culture and
become more part of the the area, pick up the
language a little quicker, appreciate some of the foods. So
that that today croissant you talked about, Yeah, you're leaving out.

(13:31):
You're leaving that out. You're burying the lead on why
that is so good. It's got chocolate in it, Yes
it has chocolate, it's neutella, gotcha. So but it is.
They're delicious. It's a snack over there that you can
get it at any of the convenience stores. And it
was just something we'd pick up for road food when
we were going somewhere. But yeah, so it was it
was an It was a great experience, and you just
you learned a shop on the economy because you know,

(13:54):
it just it just becomes just good, like a like
a normal thing, no different than than how I live
in Etown.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
So your kids older, now, I'm sure they they look
back and maybe they missed home and maybe they prefer
it here.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
That would make total sense.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
But as they get older, young adults, I feel like
they probably are now finding a way to realize that
was a good experience for them as far as just
being in different cultures. And I mean it's just again,
I'm somebody that's that's you know, I'm not young, young,
but like I've not done anything like that, probably never
will and I'll be okay, But just imagine that was
probably a really cool experience for them, and now that

(14:27):
they're older, they probably realize it more than they did
at that time.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
They do. My son still has a thing for curry ketchup,
the hot ketchup, and some we all still enjoy, you know, Spatsol,
which is a German noodle, and schnitzel. My wife, our
first landlord, while I was deployed Afghanistan, took my wife
under her wing and taught her how to cook a
lot of German food, so we still do that. There's
a there's a drink over there that's a combination of

(14:52):
tea and lemonade called Meso Mix that the kids absolutely
still love. Then you can find it here in places
I am instead of being grandma and grandpa to the grandkids.
My daughter started this as kind of an ode to Germany.
We are the German words for that, which is oman opah.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
So that experience in your life is everlasting. Yeah, it's
that's that's really cool.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
They got to see things in real life that most
people only see in a book are on the Smithsonian channel,
and and that is an experience as a as a
dad that that I will always be grateful to have
able to give them.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah. So let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Whenever you were there, other than just you know, family,
which you've become accustomer, what did you miss most about
America while in Germany?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Gas prices okay, makes sense.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Sometimes the language, you know, picking up German was was easier,
but still it was you know, it's not just being
able to talk.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
It's work. Yeah, it's work.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, to think in another language like that.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
No, it's not good stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well, you are a well seasoned and experienced individual. And uh,
I'm glad you brought me in a treat from Germany.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Today. I'm gonna have to This'll be my breakfast once
the show ends. Enjoy, appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
All right, let's get to a quick time out. We've
got traffic, weather updates on the way, and also we've
got another sports update coming up in about fifteen minutes
or so. So stick around right here on news Radio
eight forty whis. We're rolling along here on a cool
and brisk Thursday morning. It is Kentucky this morning, News
news Radio eight forty whas Coffee and Company. That's us,
and we are fueled by Thornton's. So I want to

(16:22):
get to this a little bit later on when we
have a little more time. But we now have I
guess a better idea as far as just what JCPS
is doing to free up some money. Right they've got
a big deficit, one hundred and eighty million, is it,
but they're slashing one hundred million from from the budget,
and I guess we now have a better idea as
far as what the initial cuts are and how they're

(16:42):
how they're going to get there. Easier said than done,
of course, but it does sound like right now so
far it's it's really it's budget correction, superficial cuts essentially,
where they're not truly reducing spending, they're just you know,
there there there's certain things they can they can they
can go away with, but it's not going to be
probably probably noticeable every day to the teachers and students.

(17:06):
It also when you can do that much and end
up I guess making real progress as far as eliminating
that deficit, is that not a direct and clearly there's
every level of a one hundred and eighty million dollar deficit.
Tells me that you were spending money on things you
shouldn't and it just does. It's hard to comprehend how
you got there. But with that said, probably not so

(17:27):
surprising that they can, just like little things can go
a long way, because clearly there was some level of mismanagement, oversight,
and just poor spending on what you were spending money on.
There's really no excuse that I can think of. And
trust me, I'm aware there are things that I may
not come up within this brain of mind that somebody

(17:47):
could present and it would make it make sense. I
don't have all the answers, but I just don't know
how you can see the amount of money that the
school is, that the school system is given, and yet
they ended up in a situation like this.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
It's just it's unthinkable.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
I start spending my wheels anytime it comes up, because
I almost feel like I'm reading the news article or
I'm referencing reports.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
That have to be fake, because how could this be?
How could it?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
It's I don't want to give you any fake outrage
like I'm impacted by it because I'm not to be
honest with you, but it is just it's it's insane
to see the financial situation of of course, the biggest
school district in this state, and the school district that
most people listening right now probably send their kids to
send their kids to school in, or maybe they went
to school there, maybe they teach there, so they got

(18:33):
to they got to figure something out. And we'll get
into a little more as far as just some of
the one time fixes and the real threat of impact
in the classroom, as far as reduction and programs teachers.
They're not there yet, they don't want to do that,
but can we really say we know for certain they're
going to be able to avoid that when you look

(18:54):
at just the disastrous nature of this situation from a
financial standpoint. All right, quick update of Travick the weather
right here, right now. Also we'll get to another sports update,
and I promise you I want to talk about Tom Izzo,
Michigan state head coach at some point, because he just
provided another great example of the hypocrisy that exists really
at a level in coaching at the college level that

(19:16):
you don't see elsewhere. So a lot more to come
right here on news Radio eight forty whas
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