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October 8, 2025 • 24 mins
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Speaker 4 (00:00):
Stop in this morning. Why wouldn't you?

Speaker 1 (00:02):
They got great breakfast options, donuts, breakfast sandwiches. I love
the sausage, egg and cheese croissant. You simply can't beat it.
I mean, just my opinion, but I've yet to have
anybody tell me otherwise. I think it is the best
breakfast sandwich you'll find. But maybe you're looking for something
a little a little more. I don't know, Hardy. They've
got right now two for five dollars the breakfast Chariso tacos,

(00:26):
so we're talking ham Bell, Pepper's onions and cheese. So
stop in today again. You can get two of those
for just five bucks. A really really wet Tuesday led
to a road completely collapsing on plant Side Drive. Just
a wild visual that, of course, is going to cause
some delays for some folks, probably moving forward. I'm sure
right now, if you know that you're on that road

(00:47):
every single day, you now know you can't be on
that road today, at least not in that area. So
hopefully you can find an alternate route and it won't
cause too much disruption. But the rain that came down
in really a while, I mean, what.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Do I know?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
My eyeballs wouldn't be able to tell me anything as
far as just the where it ranks, where it compares.
But I feel like in my area, I'm in northern
Bullock County, and I did see that that was one
of the areas here in the Kentuckian area that that
I guess got it the worst as far as the
flash flooding. But just some visuals right outside my house
near my neighborhood, and then of course a lot of
folks in my community sharing put pictures and videos on Facebook.

(01:24):
I don't know if I've ever seen it looked quite
like that, and it was it was coming down quick,
and it was a wild, wild thing. So if you've
got your basement flooded, I'm sorry, I sympathize with you
because I've been there. It's the worst, but just you know,
fight through it and hopefully hopefully it's not too you know,
hopefully at the end of the day, it's not gonna

(01:45):
ruin things that like you cherish, right, I mean, if
something's valuable and it gets ruined, that's terrible. But you know,
just I know that when we had our we were lucky.
I've in the two times our basement's flooded I haven't
had anything ruined that was just a disaster for us,
but we nearly did because there was just boxes of

(02:05):
stuff that was from moving around and not having any
place to put certain things, just things that I would
never get rid of it. I didn't really have a
place to put. They just end up in the basement
in storage, that kind of stuff. And we were able
to avoid any of that getting ruined. But it did
make me realize, hey, I should be a little more
mindful of where I put things because these kind of
things can happen. And yeah, you don't prepare for it,

(02:26):
but yeah, it's the worst. I had my basement flooded twice.
And again, it's not the end of the world and
the grand scheme of things. We were all okay, but
it's just it's just a real pain in the rear
end and a real helpless feeling.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, especially if you're dealing with mold too. Nick.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh, yeah, we've heard people that get mold in their house.
That's a whole other issue in itself. I've heard so
many horror stories from folks that had it, in fact
in our home that we had just now. We initially
had a small leak in the foundation. And what happened.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Was was it known when you bought them?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
No, Unfortunately it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
And so we started noticing water creeping in on the
basement floor. And of course we haven't finished basement much
like you do, and you have the insulation that's back there,
and that gets covered with mold and you start peeling
that back. And you know, when I first arrived in
Louisville after I left the Navy, I worked for a
well known foundation repair company and I got the load
out on really all the different ways it can cause damage.
And I know there's some people waking up this morning

(03:21):
that are probably dealing with the same exact thing.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, I tell you what now that I'm just thinking
about the fear and anxiety that I have of another
basement flood. Part of it, and because we've had it
happened at two different houses, and the most recent one
a couple of years ago, was when we just moved in,
so that was just terrible timing. But we then learned
after that happened that there was a prior flood in

(03:43):
this house that we did not know about, and that
that that just put more fears. Okay, did they did
they leave that out because this is just a place where,
no matter what when the cause I my setup is
kind of weird at my I have I have by
the way, maybe maybe this, maybe this could be social content.
I believe I have the worst driveway you will ever find,
Like I would love to enter a competition World's worst driveway,

(04:04):
just because it's It's not a super long driveway by
any means, but it is a very, very very steep hill.
It stands out on our street. I mean, it's it's
a look it stands out. But you know, when you
drive it every day, I'm used to it by now,
But there are many people who come to my house
and when they're there for the first time, they don't
even attempt to come up the driveway because they just
assume their car is gonna drag. That's that's what we're

(04:25):
dealing with. So because we're elevated like that and water
comes down from behind us, that's where you know, it
just seems as if when I see water just flooding
down my driveway, and of course the drainage to the side,
I just I know where my basement sits. It's not
technically all the way underground. And I'm thinking Oh, it's
gonna be bad. So anyways, that's that's that's the fear
for me. So if it's happened to you, I'm sure

(04:46):
you you can relate. And if it hasn't happened to you,
then then you know, consider yourself fortunate.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
What do you do in the winter? Bro?

Speaker 3 (04:53):
If you I know, folks like you that have steep
driveways like that, I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
We we don't, I mean, if it so we We've
now been there for a few different winners. And I'll
tell you this, the uh, there are certain times where
we just don't. We don't go down unless we have to,
and if we do, we just have to be prepared
to leave the car on the street. And that's not
the end of the world. But then we also have
we also have the snowplows to come through for the neighborhood,

(05:19):
for the community, and you know, you can't have them
out there. So it's it's a pain in the rear end.
You know, I'm used to it by now, but yeah,
it uh, there's there's you can't actually shovel it when
it's ice because you can't you can't get any solid
footing because of the hill. So Yeah, it's it's a
it's a nightmare. It makes me feel it makes me
feel tougher whenever I just don't, you know, it's just

(05:40):
what we have now. It's not like I look at
it as a huge I mean, it's inconvenience, but you know,
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
It's nothing I can do about it.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
But whenever people are like, how do you live with this,
I'm like, I just I just power through them, just
that strong, because it is it is a pain in
the ass.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I can tell you that I can get it. I
get it.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Wow, dude, makes me feel better. I feel bad when
I have to go out and shovel my driveway.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Man makes on a positive note, if ever wanted to
really gets some good uphill wind sprints and I've got
the perfect driveway for it. And trust me, I'm not
trying to add the act like I've got. It's what
makes it worse is that because the driveway is not long,
it's just a big it's just a big old hill
and you don't you know, you know, until you get
to the very top, there's no you know, there's no relief.
So all right, let's get to a quick traffic weather update.

(06:18):
Also we'll talk about the UFL coming to Louisville. That
news broke yesterday as the show was coming to an end,
and a lot of excitement surrounding that. Don't go anywhere,
keep it locked right here. It's Coffee and Company. Feel
about Thornton's on News Radio eight forty whas. So, this
news broke yesterday right as we were ending the show,
and that is that we've got some pro football coming
to Louisville.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
The UFL has been back up.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
And running for the last few years and they're going
to be coming to Louisville. I knew that Louisville, Ericas
Kentucky was reported as one of the potential landing spots
for a franchise as a few of the markets has
decided to pull out. So nice to see that it
is going to be right here in Louisville, and it's
going to be the Louisville Kings. So they're gonna have

(06:58):
home games a Lynn family stated and Butcher Town, which
that to me is what I'm most excited to see,
is just how awesome it's going to look. That is
the perfect venue for something like this. And I went
to my first soccer game there a couple months back
and was blown away by just how awesome it was.
I mean, I could tell just from driving past it

(07:19):
on I seventy one how phenomenal it looked from there,
but from inside out, I mean, Louisville looks phenomenal from there,
and of course it's got and it's just a perfect
size for something like that. So we'll get into it
a little more later on as far as just how
the folks at Racing Louisvill Louisville City FC are are
not only comfortable with sharing, they seems like they're excited

(07:41):
for this to happen.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
There have been some that have expressed, Okay, what are
we going to do here if the field gets damaged?
And I know yesterday Jonathan Lintner, spokesman for the clubs,
said that if in fact there is any damage, that
it's something that the.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
UFL will will pay to repair.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
So having another pro sports option in town during the
spring is not only exciting for someone like myself who
will We'll probably get out to a lot of games
and and and and do my best to support it,
but it'll be a nice case study to see how
we support something like this because it's not the NFL,
and and I think the UFL is pretty clear they're
not going to try to compete with the NFL because

(08:17):
nobody can. But if in fact the product is good,
it's exciting football, and you've got some local connections, which
there's a lot of opportunities to do some creative stuff
there as far as the roster, even the coaching staff. Uh,
I'm I'm, I'm very excited and I think it'll be
a success, but I could be totally wrong. You know,
It's one of those things you really don't know until
you uh, until you until you give it some time.

(08:38):
And we've not had something like this in a while.
I mean, I know that there have been some arena
football startups that were launched, but I mean those no offense.
I just think those kind of seem to be destined
to fail because of lack of resource and and and whatnot.
But this is this is different. This is a real
league that has you know, a TV deal and and
and and I know they did have what is believed

(09:00):
somewhat of a sophomore slump as far as just viewership
and attendance in certain markets, which is why they now
have new markets like Louisville involved. But this is this
is probably the most I guess, pre established thing we've
got going here, other than, of course, when Racing Louisville
and LU CITYFC of course launched. I mean that time,

(09:21):
those leagues were already in existence. And clearly we do
have a pro soccer team here with Racing they are
the highest level of pro women's soccer. But and this
is not that, of course, with the UFL. But I'm excited.
I'm anxious to see what the crowds look like, and
I think there's a lot of potential here in Louisville
for it.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh, you should be, Nick.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
In fact, I just kicked out a story I tagged
John X with it. You have the Detroit kicker Baits,
who went from the Michigan Panthers to the Detroit Lions
and right on exactly what you're talking about. ESPN did
an article on him back in March, and I've been
watching Jay Bates's progress through that and it's simply a
great story for those that are wondering about, you know,

(09:59):
as you mentioned, Nick, getting some of that homegrown talent
in here, and not just it doesn't have to always
be homegrown. It can be you know, just a feel
good story where folks get attached to players.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
We've seen that with Low City and Racing Louisville.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Look how players come in from outside and fans sort
of get attached to those players. And for a guy
like Jake Bates to move his way up onto the
Lions roster, you'll see him play on Sunday from the UFL.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
That's what can happen here.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
And I'm glad you mentioned about the pitch because Jonathan
Littner and I know those folks well over at lou City.
They're not going to open up a beautiful venue like
Lynn Family Stadium and let them grind down that pitch
and abuse that stadium.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
That is their crown jewels.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
They're known throughout the league for that stadium. In fact,
there's three other copycat stadiums because of that.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
And I know that that's been well vetted.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
As Mike Ropoli you mentioned yesterday, was going to be
part of the ownership group that's going to bring the
team here. Of course, connected to the horse racing gig,
they had that covered and like I always like to say,
there's people that get paid a lot more money than
you and I to make these decisions and think these
things out and don't think that they're not going to
front that cost.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
To repair that pitch.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
So for the footy fans who are a little up
ted about tearing up the pitch, relax, do some homework,
read up on it.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
They got you covered.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, And I tell you what I think. They also
realize just having more people get out to Lynn Family
Stadium because if they would, they they'd be more inclined
to check out a UFL game. And then they realize, hey,
I'm not a big soccer fan, but man, this place
is awesome. I'll come here on a Saturday night to
watch the club play a match that was me. Again,
I wasn't ever against it, but soccer is just not
really my jam. Yeah, but clearly I enjoyed myself and

(11:33):
I'm going to be back because it's just an awesome
experience for us here in Louisville.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'll be there Friday and Saturday night. Dude, it's just
a cool place to hang out.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Man.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
To your point, you don't have And what's cool about
Lynn Family Stadium is when you go to a basketball
game or a football game, excuse me.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You can stand in the end zone. I don't like
to set Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
I'm not a big setter myself.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I'm with you on that you can stand and watch
the game.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
So I'm with you, Nick, I'm entirely way too excited
about this. For the city of Louisville, for Lynn family, Stafe,
and for football fans and soccer fans.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
It'll be fine, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
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Speaker 4 (13:18):
It is five.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I'm sorry, six thirty five. Sorry to alarm you there
if you heard it was five am and not six
am at least in those hours, it is six. In fact,
it's now six thirty six here and there's Radio eight
forty whas coffee and company with you, and we are
fueled by Thornton's been a busy morning so far, the
government shutdown continues, and we are certainly starting to really

(13:39):
see the effects of that. As far as travel, You've
got air travelers across the country that are really filling
the lingering effects of what a government shutdown can do
because there's a nationwide shortage of air traffic controllers and
that has forced a wide spread of flight delays and cancelations.
On Monday alone, nearly six thousand flights were delayed at

(14:01):
Chicago O'Hare's Airport, about forty two percent of flights were
delayed Monday. That's just one of the many airports. Denver, Newark,
and Hollywood Burbank Airport, those are the air airports that
seem to be impacted the most thus far, and even
just south of US here in Nashville there they're having
some issues as well, as they had a five hour

(14:21):
I guess shut down essentially due to short staffing and
with their air traffic situation. So this is something that
of course will uh will make it more real for
those that don't have jobs that are that are impacted
by the government shut down and they don't rely on
services that are delayed or not not available because of

(14:41):
this shutdown. UH So, no no sign that this is
going to end anytime soon from what I can tell,
but here's to hoping that that that that behind the scenes,
there are some folks working to where this uh, this
won't be something that lasts much longer. But again, only
time will tell. When it comes to just some other
other impacts that maybe you wouldn't think about, this is

(15:03):
one that I saw over the weekend. Luckily they did
get it worked out. But there are two Kentucky high
schools that are on military basis, for Fort Knox and
Fort Campbell, so they were not able to play football
this past weekend on Friday. So Fort Campbell and Fort
Knox they've now been cleared for sports despite this shutdown.
The last friday, both canceled their football games after the

(15:25):
shutdown halted the extra extracurricular activities across Department of Defense
Education schools. Yeah, d O d e A is is
what it is, and they shut it down, which of
course you know that's uh, I mean that that that
is that's not the end of the world. But for
a high school kid to miss out on an experience

(15:48):
that you may not get back because of you know,
really grown ups fighting, I mean, that's that's kind of
what it means. I know it's deeper than that, trust me,
but at the same point in time, I mean that's
and again, to be fair, this is one of those
things that.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
They were able to make right after.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
To me, maybe this is a really good example of
just the lingering effects of this that you would never
think about until a situation like this happens. But Senator
Minority Leader Mitch McConnell did intervene and wrote a letter
to Defense Secretary Pete Hexith urging the Department of Defense
to reinstate these activities despite the lapse in funding, and
that request was granted.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
So well, that's what a lot of people don't get.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
When I was stationed over in Germany, I used to
cover the football teams over the high school football teams,
and these kids they come together sort of from different backgrounds,
but that means everything to them. There are one already, No,
not necessarily for the kids at Fort Knocks are for
Cambe because they're living here in the States, but they
for the kids that were living overseas, that was their

(16:45):
Friday night, and it felt like a Friday night when
you had the different schools get together and for these kids.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
That was a big deal.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
And when we were talking last week, when we mentioned
that Fort Knox was not able to play their game,
I was.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Like, are you kidding me? You can take this away
from these kids because you can't get along.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, it's unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
It reminds me of and this is really I mean,
this was just terrible, terrible timing, that's all you said.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
That's what you chalk it up to.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
But whenever high school sports were disrupted with COVID, I
mean that was because that's such an experience that can
help really shape you moving forward as you become an adult.
And I know that sounds dramatic and deep, but I
mean my experience in playing high school sports impacted me
as much as maybe anything in my life, especially at

(17:30):
that time. And it's not because of anything specifics as
far as like the game itself or any moment on
the court. It was just because it was, you know,
where I learned to be a part of something and
you know, developed a work ethic, and it's just it's
an experience that you cherish for a variety of reasons,
and it does way more for you than you'll ever
know in real time as far as just helping mold

(17:50):
you into being a better person.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Really.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I mean, again, it sounds dramatic and corny, I'm sure,
but there are high school kids that really didn't get
that because of the pandemic. Rather it be they had
no closure with no postseason or the following year, they didn't,
you know, they had thirty percent of a season because
of the weird, awful time of just not knowing. You know,
there weren't consistent restrictions. It's different school districts and whatnot.

(18:14):
It's just it was a mess. So I'm glad to
see that they did get it worked out to we're
moving forward. Both Port Knox and Fort Campbell are going
to be able to resume sports activities because again, that's
an experience that those kids should be able to take
part in.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Well, especially those kids who are on the move so much.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, that's like they're one grounding really, I mean, military
kids do well anyway. We jokingly and affectionately call the
military brats, but they they're used to moving around, they're
used to getting up and moving. But that does offer
them one anchor at least of normalcy and what can
sometimes and especially if their parents are deployed overseas to
places that, you know, where they put their lives at

(18:51):
risk and then they have that to worry about. So yeah,
I'm with you, Nick, I'm glad they put that back.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I mean, it's been twenty years since I was at
that age, and I still get mad that we missed
a couple of games because of snow. Right, Well, we
missed out on snow games, and I'm like, man, I
got robbed of the experience. I mean, it could have
been a lot worse for me, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Well, when you mentioned that, you know, because my son
was his sophomore year. It was his sophomore year in
high school, and that was the one time.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
What a weird time to go through high school.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Oh dude, that's the one time when you're a sophomore
where you are just now you're making that leap from
being the freshman into really kind of establishing yourself and
when you start to form those friendships, and they didn't
have that, and I never ever ever want to go
back to that again.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Ever, that was all gives me anxiety thinking about it.
To be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
It should all right, Let's get to a quick update
of traffic and weather. We'll see how the roadways are looking.
Bobby Ellis will get us caught up. Also, we'll take
a look at the forecast from Matt Melosa Vish of
WLKY It's Coffee and Company, and we are Field bouth
Thorton's right here on news Radio eight forty whas. So,
it looks like this dangerous TikTok challenge that Jennings County
law enforcement here in southern Indiana, just across the river

(19:56):
from US is warning parents about, is not a new one,
but maybe one that's just I guess still out there.
Kids haven't realized how stupid it is and how dangerous
it is to where it's still occurring, and that's a
dangerous thing. So maybe, maybe maybe this specific incident is
an added layer to the And I'm not even sure

(20:17):
what the kids call this challenge, but it's a trend
that involves juveniles approaching random houses and attempting to kick
indoors while sometimes armed with airsoft guns that look realistic.
I mean, as those words exit my mouth, the thought
of anybody doing this without any realization that it's extremely

(20:40):
stupid and extremely dangerous is just unimaginable. Like I don't
know how any I mean, I feel like my five
year old son would would know that this could this
could be one of the stupidest things you could do.
So Jennings County they had a situation on Saturday where

(21:00):
officers responded to a home. They did identify everybody that
was involved in it, and they feared the trend could
grow and do more people doing it because fall break's
going on. But in a Facebook post, the Sheriff's office said, quote,
this activity is extremely dangerous. Parents should talk to their
children about the risks, and everyone should enjoy fall breaks safely.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
So I mean.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
The national story I believe out of Texas where a
kid was shot for ding dong ditch, and again, that's
one of those things where the specifics of what actually
happened are really really important, not to the point of
should a kid was justified for the kid to lose
his life. I mean, that's not what I mean. I
think it was pretty clear right away that the actions

(21:43):
that this man took were not at all reasonable, and
he was charged with murder.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
But I'm just saying, even though you.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Shouldn't do it, it's still silly and certainly still dangerous.
There's a big difference in walking up to someone's door
knocking and running away. That's different than going up to
someone's store attempting to kick it in or just kick
it as hard as you can and maybe show a
fake firearm. Like.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
That's a different world of stupidity. And I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Just cannot imagine how anybody would do this and think
that it's cool.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I did notice that one local TV station here is
now bringing back an old ad campaign, which I think
is great, and they come on right before their news
and it says it's ten o'clock. It's a simple point,
do you know where your children are? I think it's
great that they're bringing that back. That's kind of a throwback.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Great, but terribly sad, right, terribly sad.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Now, maybe, like maybe, and I'm thinking about it as
a as a parent that has a nine year old
special needs daughter and a five year old kindergartener, So
there's never a time where I don't know where my
kids are. But maybe it's more so for like the
teenage kids that you know, you know they're out with
their friends, but do you know what they're doing?

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Right?

Speaker 4 (22:56):
And that's where it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
But I'm just like, I cannot really anybody at any
point in time not knowing whether their kids are But again,
I can't relate because my kids are young.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
I'm sure eventually it'll be different for me.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah, And I know sometimes it's a challenge for single
parents that like say, for example, you have a single
loan that's working at night, and maybe she's working a
retail job late at night. But I do like the
fact though, that we are now addressing this, if that's
what it takes to get parents to think for a
split second. As I applauded my wife, she always got
to know the other parents that my son knew. Not

(23:27):
so much my daughter because she wasn't so much of
a social life, but she was always and I'm more
of a quiet guy. I don't like small talk, so
I wouldn't get involved in but she would reach out
to everybody get to know. She'd form her own network,
and she always knew the kids my son was hanging
out with, and that bodes him well. And I just
told him that this past weekend that bodes him well
moving on into life.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, I can't tell you this, I who your kids
hang out with. I mean, it's not the end all
be all. They could be around bad kids end up good.
They could be around good kids end up bad. But man,
it it is an important thing as far as who
they're around, what their environment is. And I know when
my kids get older, it's gonna be something I'm very
mindful of. I mean, this also just has me thinking

(24:09):
about how Louisville got some national attention for our police
chief having to go on the record publicly and let
parents know that when you have children, you are in
fact responsible for those children. It's a wild concept and
it's a sad reality that some people around here had
to be reminded of that.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Oh yeah, I guess. I guess I am responsible for
these human beings that I brought.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Into the earth, Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Anyways, let's get to a quick traffick and weather update,
sports updates on the way.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
We'll get to this at some point.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
But Bill Belichick, I mean, if Carolina pulled the plug
right now this morning, I don't think aybody would blame him.
That's been a disaster, and I mean it was doomed
to fail, and it's doing exactly that. We'll talk about
that later right here on news Radio eight forty whas
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