7.8: Average Joe - Hour 3

Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Good morning, Kentucky, Ina.

Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is seven oh four here at Kentucky and his
Morning News with myself Nick Coffee, John Alden alongside. You
just heard John Shannon with a news update there as
we are halfway through our four hour program. We've been
up for a while. But if you are just now
getting your day started, well, I'm sure you're If you
are just now getting your day started, maybe you're tired.
Maybe you're just thinking, oh man, another hot summer day.

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And you're right, because it's going to be brutal today
as far as just the heat, but luckily the sun
won't be I guess if you're looking for sunshine today,
it could be a problem for you. But maybe the
fact that we'll have cloudy skies, maybe that could lead
to you not just feeling as disgusting outside. But anyways,
summer's here right on schedule and the heat wave is

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in full effect, so just.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Be prepared, all right.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
So today starts a four day stretch of Prime Days.
I think it used to just be called Prime Day.
Now there's multiple days because it starts today and it's
gonna run up until the end of the week on
the eleven. So the Amazon Prime membership is I get
you fifteen bucks a month roughly or one hundred and

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thirty nine a year. And I've always I mean, I've
had Amazon Prime for a long long time. John, are
you an Amazon Prime subscriber?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
We are?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
My wife and I are great, And I mean I
oftentimes just use Prime for the convenience, but I rarely think, Okay, well,
if I need this, Prime will give me the cheapest option.
But again, that doesn't mean that's not the case. It's
just I don't typically pay a lot of pay a
lot of attention for that. But when it comes to
are you actually getting deals, right, they build it up

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like it's just a big marketing pr thing that you're
just are under the impression that now is the time
to buy everything because it's Prime Day or Prime Days now,
and you're just going to save money. But the amount
of people, i mean fifteen to thirty percent of people
who actively spend during this time, only fifteen to thirty

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percent even look to see if the deal they're getting
is a deal or if in fact they're just I
guess falling for what this is. And that's not to
say that you can't get good deals. I'm sure there
are things that you can save a lot of money on,
but you should pay attention to what it is you're buying,
because just purchasing something because it's promoted during prime days,
or purchasing something just because it is in fact falling

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in this four day window doesn't really mean. I mean,
you could end up paying more than what you could
pay elsewhere, depending upon what it is. Have you ever,
I mean, I can't think of any time where my
wife and I have thought, Okay, we better load up.
I mean, I'm sure she'll buy some things. In fact,
i'm sure she's already got. I mean not to say
that she's got some crazy spending habit or anything like that,
but she's more she uses our account more so than me.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Is that same with you and your Wife's fair to say? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
And I guess the Amazon items, like Amazon's technology. They're
smart alarm clock it's called Amazon Echo Spot, the Amazon firestick,
Amazon fire HD tap, those are believed to be the
items that are going to be hot items that people
are going to be paying you know you For example,
the Echo spot from Amazon, that's their alarm clock. You're

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looking at forty four percent off, So I mean that's
proof that you can get it for forty five dollars,
whereas any other time it's been eighty. That's a legitimate
sale that will probably it will probably result in a
lot of people purchasing something like that. But it blew
my mind to see the amount of people who just
all right, well it's prime days, let me just go
look and see what's there and not pay attention to

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the price because I'm just going to assume that it's
I'm saving money, and sometimes you're not.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
There's there's clearly a lot of strategy that goes into
promoting something as like a big deal, and it would
probably surprise me and make me just, I guess, think
less of how much we use our brains because just
a sign that says it's on sale, it could be
one cent off of what it previously was, and there's

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many people that wouldn't even wouldn't even notice. And you know,
I guess that's why these companies make a lot of money.
They know, they know how to target us, they know
how to take advantage of things that we will not
pay close attention to.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
So again, this is almost like the new Cyber Monday. Yeah,
Online Black Friday, Yeah, you will.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I mean that's yeah, this is this is a version
of that, and they'll they'll position it as if this
this is the time when when in reality, I'm sure
they're I mean, they probably do this a few times
a year. I mean, I don't about Amazon specifically, but
there's clearly know I'm saying that they manipulate us would
be a little bit of a stretch, but I feel
like they're aware that if they just scream it in

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every way they can from a marketing standpoint, that they've
got this big deal going on and it's the Summer
of savings, or it's the what they call it, a
target like something, or Kmart, the blue Light special or whatever.
I mean, there's there's all there's different. I mean, there's
different brandings, if you will, when it comes to how
they emphasize their sales, their deals, not only because it

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could be a certain time of year like Amazon does
with Prime Days, or it could just be this is
in the category of a this is a big this
is where you're gonna save money. I mean, the amount
of people who probably don't even pay attention to that,
and again I would be the idiot that would just
buy it because I need it, and I don't care enough.
It's not that I'm made a money trust me. But
there's others that I think just fall into buying a

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lot of stuff and then they don't in the end,
like they don't really know that they didn't really save
much money. So there are ways in which that you
can you can check and see if you're actually getting
good deals. There's a lot of different different services that
will that will basically you throw in the Amazon Prime
link and it'll run it for you and tell you,
tell you if you're you know where where the what

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the price is elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
So don't fall for it.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Don't don't spend a ton of money today just because
in your mind you think you're saving. Do your homework
and you may be surprised about things that are being
built up. Is this you got to buy it, it's
a big sale, and then in fact, like you could
get it cheaper elsewhere potentially. All right, let's get an
update on traffic out there from Bobby Ellis. We'll also
get an update on Matt Melosovich's forecast the WKY. It's

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Kentucky and it's morning news right here our news radio
eight forty whas it is seven to seventeen here Kentucky
and is morning News on News Radio eight forty whas So,
we were told yesterday that Jeffrey Epstein kept no client list,
which of course contradicts claims made by the Attorney General,

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who just what recently, not that long ago, made claims
on Fox News that such document was sitting on her desk.
So this is certainly one of the big conspiracy theories
out there as far as what truly happened to Jeffrey Epstein.
And I typically don't I mean, I shouldn't say fall

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four because if you are somebody that I mean, look,
I'll put it this way.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I've learned over the.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Years as someone who oftentimes just assumes, well, come on,
people wouldn't really do that. I've I've learned that I'm
more naive than I than I probably should be.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
So with this one, I just it's it.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
There's clearly a lot that we don't know as far
as what truly happened, and I don't know if we're
ever gonna get answers, but I feel like this is
brewing to be one of the one of the old
timers when it comes to just people.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I mean, they already have for years.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Probably spent so much time trying to I mean, it's
I mean, this is this isn't this isn't a new thing.
It's just when you find out that there's there's no
client list, and and I mean, that just doesn't doesn't
make any sense. I mean, You've got people that were
found guilty in federal court for a sex trafficking ring,
a massive one at that that involved, according to the trial,
a thousands of victims. And to say that there are

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thousands of victims in a convicted sex trafficking ring and
then say there were no customers when the operation happened
right before our eyes, I mean it insults the intelligence
of human beings. I mean, trafficking women to no one.
That doesn't make sense, and many people don't buy it.
I'm I'm certainly I'm certainly one of those people that

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just doesn't what they've shared with us.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I won't I won't.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Claim to be somebody that's into it as others, Like
this isn't going to consume me like it like it
does other people. And I don't mean to say because
I've got, you know, better things to do.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's just.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's not something that's gonna stay on my mind a
whole lot. But clearly those that are all about conspiracy
theories in wanting to truly get the truth on things,
this is one that again it's an old timer and
as far as you know, I try to whenever I realize, Okay,
are you being a little too like, are you being

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too naive here, Nick, to think that they're that they're
just you know, that they're just telling us what they
can tell us. I mean, again, the scenarios as far
is what really went on, I mean, it's endless. That's
why this is become again one of the most talked
about things out there when it comes to conspiracy theories
and the truth being.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Withheld by powerful people.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
But if you really, I mean, if you really you
could have been somebody that flew on Epstein's plane, does
that make you somebody that was involved in a sex
traveicking ring. No, So there's going to be a certain
level of not wanting to open up a can of
worms because just because you had some level of involvement
with Epstein doesn't mean that you are guilty with what
he was guilty of. But again, to just let it be, okay, Yeah,

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nothing to see here moving on that. I mean that
had a lot of people seemingly in disbelief because they
don't believe that this is just something that should be
moved on from. All right, we've got another update of
Travick and Weather coming your way. Also, we'll get an
update on sports with Scott Fitzgerald right here at Kentucky
and his Morning News News ready to bet forty whas.
Thank you very much, John, and we do have a

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fresh pot of Kentucky and this morning news ready for you.
Here it is seven thirty five and New's radioaight forty whas.
Nick Coffee, that is me, seohn Alden is alongside and John,
you're a big music guy. I'm not think that's safe
to say, right, Yo, that's safe. So I gotta tell
you about this band that you may eventually like, but
they're not real.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Okay, let me hear it. So the Velvet.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Sundown, I mean, it already sounds like a made up name,
doesn't it. I kind of like the name though, yeah,
but it's too good to be originally.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I think I agree with you that.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
But what I have the benefit of is knowing ahead
of time before I read about this group and listen
to any of their music. I know that they're fake
because they have done something that is kind of scary
for those that are I guess in the creative space
that is making music and maybe that's part of how
you make a living, or maybe somebody that just would
be totally turned off by knowing that you were listening
to music that was not real. I mean, it is real,

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meaning you could hear it, but it's it's created by
artificial intelligence. So a fake band has fooled a lot
of people with AI music. I mean a million Spotify
listeners for The Velvet Sundown and they're not real. So
no history, no live shows, nothing but just two albums
and a Spotify page. To me, that would be a

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red flag, but it says here in the last few
weeks they've got over a million monthly listeners, which is
pretty I mean, to me sounds I mean, I don't
care who you are. If you've got a million monthly
listeners and you're a musician, you're doing well. And I
don't mean because of like money you're getting from Spotify.
I mean you've got a big enough fan base to
where you can be hitting the road and making money
with shows. So their genre it's described as chill seventies.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Psych rock, whatever the hell that is.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I don't know who I would throw in that group,
but that's what they were described as, and it's not.
It's also described as not bad but not mind blowing either,
which I guess that is where they were able to
fool people is that it wasn't so good and so off.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
It was kind of in the middle of where you
felt like.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Okay, because there's clearly some songs that are really good
and some that aren't great, and they've got a consistent sound.
Maybe that was the factor that led to people not
realizing that it's that it's not real. But at first
they tried to play it off because there were many
that realized, wait a second, something's not adding up here.
No live shows ever, and all the many images that

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they have are I think if you look at it,
you can tell there's some level of AI involved, some
level of artificial intelligence editing going on. But they they've
got an x account that was out there denying all
the rumors and whatnot, and gave like a press release
of like they look look legit. They talked about how

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they're offended that people thought they were fake, and they're
you know, they really they really kind of came into
their own and put together there are two albums that
are successful, and they quote here in Sweaty Nights spent
in a California bungalow and that's where their real I
guess creativity took off and that's where they were able
to really, you know, put together two albums that have

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been so successful. But eventually they they ended up really
I mean, it's they ended up getting caught and now
they're calling it a total hoax, an art hoax.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
So anyhow, my question to you, John is.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
If you fell for a group just because they ended
up on the Spotify playlist that you listen to and
you're just you're shuffling music and they come on and
you realize, wow, I kind of like this, and then
you go check out their full album and you're like, wow,
this is great, and you became a fan, and then
you later learned they weren't real. I could be wrong,

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but wouldn't that change a lot of your opinion of.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I think First, I think I would be disappointed in
myself first and foremost for not seeing through their little
facade of being this real band that is really just
AI generated music. Now, I haven't listened to them, so
I don't know how real or fake it sounds.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
But you got to hear you.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, I have to listen to at least a song
or something like that just to get a feel for
But if if it sounded real enough and I enjoyed it,
maybe it's something I wouldn't you know, listen to in passing,
but I would I would definitely step further away from
it if I learned down the road that they were
a fake band.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, I just you know, I was gonna say if
you learn, they if you learn, I mean the music
is real, meaning like you can listen to it, but
it's not any there's I don't know. Maybe I'm just
maybe I'm someone that is fearful of artists not being
able to truly use their craft to entertain us anymore.
But if I knew something was AI generated, I would

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have no interest in wanting to continue consuming it when
it comes to that kind of content. Now, maybe I
could be proven wrong. I've never I've never fallen for
a band that wasn't real. But to me, that's like
that's you can like someone's music and really not like them,
But I just feel like the root of it is
that you do clearly admire their craft and what they
can do, and this is just technology doing it. So

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maybe maybe I'll be proven wrong and they'll be I'll
be fool and they'll be They'll be content that I consume,
be music or whatever, and I later find out, oh,
that wasn't real, that was not that was all AI generated,
And maybe it'll just be whatever. But I guess, I
guess if you like what you like, but I would
feel I would feel like I was.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I was, you know, scammed in some way.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
But speaking of scam, there's an AI tool that is
called it's called Suno. That's the tool that is used
to create this music. And I don't know how to
use it and never heard of it, but they invested
in that. That's not a free thing. And they also
invested in getting their music in certain playlists, which of
course helped them blow up. And with those Spotify streams,

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they're able to make a lot of money. They're monetizing
those monthly one million listeners they have, so well, when
people can use AI creatively, they're going to do it,
and especially if they can do it and make a
lot of money, so be prepared. You may end up
seeing more bands that you fall for and you find
out it's not real, and maybe that won't matter to
you at all, but to me, I feel like it would.

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But now I want to hear the Velvet Sundown because
you're right, John, that is a good name, but too
good to be true. All right, let's get an update
on traffic and weather right here, right now and news
radio eight forty whas. So this is the fake band,
right John?

Speaker 3 (16:13):
This is This is Velvet Sundown's drift beyond the Flame.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I would never know that this wasn't real and that
it was created specifically by AI and it sounds, I mean,
it sounds pretty good, like I can see this being
a trendy band that got a lot of love, which
they did for those just not joining us. There's a
there's a I guess I don't know who's responsible for
creating it, but a fake band that blew up and
had a million monthly listeners on Spotify, only for listeners

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to then find out that there's like the pictures that
they share showing the band is not real. But yeah,
John Shannon popped in here earlier and showed me during
the break that you can. I mean how easy it
is to to just have AI create a song for
you with everything needed. And I mean that that makes
me kind of sad. That's a sad part of AI,
because I mean, you could have somebody put hours of

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their time and their and their craft and just I mean,
songwriting is an art and now you can you can
use AI and even though one is real, one is
not as far as just the overall song itself, like
a I may create a better one, which if I knew. Again,
if you don't know, you don't know, and I don't
know if I would have known, And clearly a lot

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of people didn't know that Velvet Sundown was was not real.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
But there's just something.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
About it that I wouldn't want to know, right if
I if you know that I've fallen for a musical act,
a group band, whatever it may be, and they're not real,
just don't tell me because it'll change sort of the
level of I mean put it this way. I know
there are many of you listening, and John, as a
music guy, I know you know what I'm talking about.
Where when you are in on an artist or a

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band earlier than most, there's something special about it. It's
like you you don't really have a close connection to that,
but you kind of feel like you do because you knew, hey,
this person's great. I'm seeing them at a at a
small intimate venue, but they're soon going to be headlining
NFL stadiums. When you're in that, you know, when you're
in that, in that early stages, it's it's awesome. And

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I'm sure many people still love artists when they become bigger.
But there's just something about a group even if their
music stays exactly the same. A lot of times it doesn't,
but if it stays exactly the same and they're more mainstream,
there's a level of the intrigue that is lost. I mean,
I'm not crazy, right, John, Yeah, Because it.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Also feel like the people that jump on the bandwagon
are just doing it because it's the fun thing to
do now after they get.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yes, those people being and again, I guess it's gatekeeping
to an extent, but when you realize others who didn't
you know, who didn't see them early and really didn't
have the true appreciation for them early enough, it just,
I don't know, just there's something about it.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
So if if.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
There was a band that I was in early on
that I wouldn't saw play at you know, all shows.
You know, I'll admit it. I wish it wasn't the case.
But there's certain people, like, for example, Tyler Childer's Kentucky native.
I love Tyler Childers.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I won't say that.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I was first in line to become a big fan
of his, but I saw him make his debut at
the Grand Ole Opry, which was many years ago, and
at that point he was certainly blowing up. And now
he's he's a huge superstar when it comes to music,
and I still like him, but there's just something about
his music that's new that even even though a lot
of it is different but some of it's the same.
I just he doesn't hit with me like he used to.

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And I think part of it's because he's just so famous.
That's not a fault of his. That's just that's just
how I that's that's just you know, I could take
him or leaving now, which I hate saying. So if
there was somebody that I was in on and then
later found out wasn't real at all, like I would
never want to listen to the music ever again and
again I won't know, I guess until I'm in that position.
And maybe I have fallen for an artist or a

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band that i've that I've had come across my playlists
that I listened to that wasn't real and I just
didn't know it. But I mean, that's that's a part
of AI that really does make me sad to know
that something that is. I mean, look, music is such
a powerful thing, and again it's an art.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I'm not gonna say though, this is something I could
find myself listening to like on the Beach or something
portray this is that's that same song.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
And I wouldn't have the ear to know what's what's what?
What stands out is potentially fake here as far as
just not being legitimately recorded in a studio.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, I feel like the vocals would be what you
would be listening for sound the fakest of anything.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
But this is like an old like to me, it
what would what would what would have been? The real
kicker for me is just fooling me completely, and I
would say, oh, there's no way, well listen to how
like they've got like a vintage sound to them, So
there's no way a I can do that, but apparently
a I can do everything, which again there's benefits to it,
but there's also downsides, and I feel like when it
gets involved in the music creation process, that's I don't

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like that, And I'm sure I'm not alone. They sound hipster,
don't they.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
They just sound a little hipster good stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
And they probably won't make any music anymore, or I
don't know, Like what if they just shut it down
because they got caught and then they have like one
hundred thousands of fans saying, hey, look, we don't care,
just do whatever you were doing with that AI.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
We like it.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Find four people that can play this music.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah all right?

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
In fact, I just thought of something else that you
may see, Like maybe AI music becomes the new thing,
and then you have like you have people who are
singers that just like they cover that when they do
live shows because anybody can cover it because it's not real. Anyways,
we got another update of Traving a weather coming your way. Also,
we'll get an update on sports right here on Who's
Radio waight forty whas